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632: The Nightly Wobble

Sep 15, 20251 hr 13 minEp. 632
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Our first look at KDE Linux, then Chris shares the latest on Hyprvibe, while Wes braves his first install.

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Intro

Chris

Hello, friends, and welcome back to your weekly Linux talk show. My name is Chris.

Wes

My name is Wes.

Brent

And my name is Brent.

Chris

Hey, gentlemen, coming up on the show today, we've been giving KDE Linux a spin, and we'll give you our first impressions in just a little bit. Plus, I just made a bunch of big updates to my Hypervibe distro. Yeah, it's still a thing. And I'm going to see if we can get Wes to get it installed and up and running live during the show. In fact, during the second half of the show, he doesn't even have the whole show. Then we'll round it out with some great shout-outs, some picks, and a lot more.

So before we go any further, let's say time-appropriate greetings to that virtual lug. Hello, Mumble Room. Welcome in.

Mumble

Hello, Brent.

Chris

We got a real small on-air. And then look at that big old quiet listening up there. It's glistening with the quiet listening. That's nice. Thank you, everybody, for joining us there and in the Matrix chat and making it a live vibe. And a big shout-out to our friends at Defined Networking. Head over to defined.net slash unplugged. Go check out Managed Nebula, a decentralized VPN built on the amazing open source Nebula platform.

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Wes

Is that right? Good job.

Chris

Thank you. Yeah, that's where I'm starting. I'm going to do a lighthouse and a mobile device. I did kind of cheat and I used Nebula Manager, but it was really nice. Nebula, I was, it's great actually. Nebula Manager is great because one of the things it did for me is it created a template config file that's just about ready to go. And so then I just went in there, bop, bop, bop through it in like two minutes max. And I had a lighthouse. I was like, oh, that was nothing.

Housekeeping

So I feel like the process is beginning. And then I think the next thing I'm going to set up just because this is how I roll is I think maybe there's better ways to do it. I'm open to input, but I think I'm going to set up a DNS server on the same box. That's my lighthouse. I have it do a name resolution for both Nebula and external stuff. What appeals to me is like I can build at it like this for my home lab and understand it and understand how it works. And I get access to everything.

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Well, Texas Linux Fest, October 3rd through the 4th at the Commons Conference Center in Austin, Texas, is just 18 days away, probably about 10 or so days until Brent needs to hit the road from right now.

Wes

Maybe eight or five.

Brent

I'm feeling more like seven, so I've got to pack.

Chris

Well, you've got to think about it this way. If you've got seven or eight days to leave, then you've got four or five days to fix whatever you need to fix before you can hit the road.

Brent

I still have a leaking roof, so I've got to get it going on that.

Chris

We have a big update on how we're doing coming up in the show later on. We've been stacking support with the audience's help for Texas Linux Fest. It's been really awesome. And I think with the incredible support we've seen from the audience and the fact that we just ticked over our 12th anniversary, I think we should officially hold the unplugged birthday party at Texas Linux Fest.

So we have a meetup on the books. If you go to meetup.com slash Jupyter Broadcasting, we have an Austin unplugged birthday party on October 4th during the 12 p.m. lunch hour. Remember that that meetup page is in Pacific time. So I put it in for 2 p.m. Pacific time. Is that right? I can't remember, but I put it in. So it equates to either way. It's at lunch during Texas Linux Fest. And there's a real nice place. It offers burgers, coffee, beer,

cocktails right nearby with indoor and outdoor seating. So I think we'll just walk there. And we'll hold the 12th anniversary birthday party for Linux Unplugged on Saturday at Texas Linux Fest. It should be really fun, I think.

and I think also I'm going to say grab the BitChat app while we're there on the ground why don't we all organize with BitChat, I think there's no servers required no accounts required it's just location and Bluetooth and IP based so get BitChat we'll have it linked in the show notes open source we've talked about it before could be a great way for us to just communicate that's.

Wes

A good idea.

Chris

As you get in the area and we do have our link we're trying to raise support to get to Texas Linux Fest we were going to do the commercial sponsoring route but nothing's really worked out and so the audience is stepping up in a big way to make sure that we can get down there and do what we do best, cover these special community events like nobody else does or can. And so we'll have a link in the show notes. You can use PayPal, Venmo, or OnChain, or Lightning to support us.

And you can put a little message in there. I'm kind of playfully calling it a fake boost. You can also, of course, boost us and put a message in there for going right into our fund to get us down to Texas. And I also think you could consider picking up a VLOG identification item like a hat or a t-shirt at the Jupyter Garage. We have a couple of new ones up there that you could put on and get identified by the team right away. You can find that at JupyterGarage.com.

I wonder, did we get the new hat colors on there?

Wes

Ooh, good question.

Chris

Yeah, I don't know.

Wes

I'm getting excited already. I mean, the schedule for Texas Linux Fest is up now.

Chris

It's looking good. It's looking real good. And you're on Saturday.

Wes

That's right, yeah.

Chris

Everybody should come see Wes's talk on Saturday.

Wes

After our meetup.

Chris

And then right before the after parties, which there'll probably be several of. So you could grab yourself a VLOG identification item. So that way you stand up from the crowd at jupytergarage.com. Of course, we have the booths and we have the playfully titled fake booths. If you would like to support us that way, we'll have a link for that in the show notes. And we'll have an update on how we're doing in just a little bit.

Plasma Infusion

But KDE hit a new release stage in this last week. And we wanted to take a look at it. We've been talking about it on and off to our bootleg members and just wanted to get everyone caught up really quickly. The KDE community that makes the Plasma desktop has also now started creating their own distribution. And it's built by the KDE project to sort of feature the Plasma desktop and Plasma technologies. And we've entered into, it's still, I guess it's not, it's alpha,

but it's not alpha, alpha. I mean, how are they calling?

Wes

I mean, they do call it the alpha release of KDE Linux, at least Nate did over in his blog post.

Chris

It's like the next alpha, I suppose. I mean, the reason why I'm trying to make this clear is it's still early days, everybody. But it is a new operating system intended eventually to be at a spot where you could daily drive this thing. It would showcase Plasma and KDE software in the best light they feel that the developers feel. And they would try to highlight modern technologies in their Wayland and Butterfess. So I think what's notable is they're calling this a testing edition now.

So it's still considered alpha, but it's at the stage where they want to get public testing. So in there right now is an unreleased version of Plasma. Plasma 6.5 is in there right now. And so you can get to play with the latest and greatest stuff that way. And I know immediately you're probably thinking as you listen to this, boys, Why do we need another Linux distro? Why? Well, this is what the KDE project says. They say, quote, KDE is a huge producer of software.

It's awkward for us not to have our own method of distributing it. Yes, KDE produces open source that others distribute, but we self-distribute our apps on app stores like FlatHub and the Snap Store and Microsoft stores. So I think it's natural for us to have our own platform for doing that distribution too. And that is an operating system. and so that's kind of what they say now brent there's neon though.

Brent

Yeah nate has some words here about neon because well if you remember that was the old version or oof am i supposed to call it that but that was the version of linux that they were putting out for developers and those of us who are i don't know interested in finding bugs to give it a shot chris you were running that for a long time in studio too yeah indeed at least nate says kd is not cancelled however it has shed most of its developers over the years, which is problematic,

and it's currently being held together by a heroic volunteer. While Neon continues to exist, KDE Linux therefore does represent duplication. As for unnecessary, I'm not sure about that. Harold, myself, and others feel that KDE Neon has somewhat reached its limit in terms of what we can do with it. It was a great First product that KDE distributed some software and prepared the world for the idea of KDE in that role. And it served admirably for about a decade.

But technological and conceptual issues limit how far we can continue to develop it.

Wes

I mean, I can definitely understand preferring, even in an alpha, what they've got going now to develop. to putting things together the way Katie Neon did. That said, I mean, I ran it for years. We ran it at the studio for years. It really did work well.

Chris

Yeah. Yeah, I think during his heyday, it was actually a really great showcase. I guess I do empathize with the idea of that was our V1 and this is our V2. I can kind of connect with that.

Brent

And it feels like, you know, designing something like this 10 years ago versus designing it in, you know, with modern applications and construction in mind. Of course, they're going to come up with a very different product.

Chris

All right, BigPain. So they keep saying it's a modern, it's a modern design. What do they mean when they're saying it's modern? What does that mean in today's Linux distro parlance?

Wes

Yeah, we do live in an interesting time where people are building all kinds of new wacky different versions of Linux. This is not using OS Tree or Bootsy like we've seen over, like when we talk about our uBlue friends. I guess they're using Arch as a base, but then they're using a tool called Make OSI that produces like a operating system image file. And then under the hood, you get a ButterFS main partition with a system sub-volume that is your sort of like writable world.

And then they're using EROFS, which is like a read-only file system that the kernel has a modern take on that. And so they ship these images that they build as these EROFS read-only file systems that get put on your file system and managed by systemd with updatectl and there's a whole suite of systemd tools for this.

Chris

Right, so you update with systemd. That's crazy. It's fun. It's not the best UI, but it's fun.

Wes

And then, of course, that can hook into the systemd boot stuff. Right now, this does only work on UEFI systems and so you can have the A, B, different versions that you can roll back to.

And there's a lot to like in terms of you really just download a new file system image onto your hard drive, gets kind of rigged up a little, just a little bit, connect a few dots, and then it seemed I did I was doing some poking mostly because it foils a lot of like the sort of kegs xf I like to do they do actually load the pmem module that I needed in the init ram fs already which I had to extract out of the unified kernel that they uh boot but they're using something where basically

systemd systemd boot passes an efi variable that tells it which drive it booted from and then it can just use the gpt partitioning to figure out what your root is automatically and it sort of like auto generates these mount units for you. And then on top of that, KDE Linux is making sure that this EROFS, so it's like it mounts the ButterFS system as your actual root, but then immediately before you ever get anywhere, it mounts this read-only to just the slash user part.

And so all of that comes from their pre-built images.

Chris

Ah, and where you're living is in the sub-volume.

Wes

That's where stuff like Etsy and other places that you can write to.

Chris

Is home in there too in the sub-volume?

Wes

Yeah.

Chris

Yeah, okay. That's actually a pretty clever way to lay it out. I like that when I looked at it first, I thought, oh, okay, they didn't do home as its own partition. No, no, because it's in that sub-volume group.

Wes

And, you know, they actually listed explicitly things like Nix or other tools like, you know, if we don't do, they were originally at some point in their design doing a fully, like, immutable, just like at root. But they felt this gave them a lot of the same guarantees, but with a little more compatibility. Although I did very quickly try to install Nix and it was kind of failing because it was trying to write under user local, I think, which was still read-only

and so still was breaking some things. But I didn't try that hard.

Chris

So this has been one of my questions is, and you just touched on it, who is this ultimately for? And I guess what you just alluded to is there is some flexibility in the underlying system because one of the groups they're clearly targeting is developers. They say, quote, you want to participate in KDE's QA process and find issues or early bugs, or, quote, you are a KDE Plasma developer, are some of the groups they implicitly state on their website they're targeting as developers.

And so my concern is a lot of times an immutable system is a little too rigid and you end up doing everything in distro box or everything in containers because developers need tools. They need libraries. They need all the crap that they use to build their particular applications with their particular workflow, with their particular preferences. That's where an immutable distro can be a little bit of friction.

And if you're trying to make something where people can come and build applications for the Plasma desktop, they're going to need to be able to, I don't know, what would be a basic closure setup for you, and could you get that working on something like this?

Wes

Yeah, I mean, I do think you are probably going to run into some limits. It does support homebrew, so you can get homebrew going. It's kind of like a lot of these modern systems. If it sufficiently sideloads cleanly, then you can kind of make it work maybe with some modifications or some jerry-rig support that you might need. And, of course, for a lot of stuff, especially with KDE, there's flat packs are very first class.

so even if you want to develop some on kde software because they do have a section in their wiki that kind of addresses like well here's how you might go about developing non-kde software and how do you what if you want to work on the distro itself and so there's various setups i do think right containerization or things will probably come into play they do mention um distro box as well and and docker yep um and system

d system extensions is another tool that they seem to be adopting in a pretty first class way that.

Chris

Felt like when i come next time i come back around to kdelinux that i think i want to play with.

Wes

And that lets you kind of do another take at this like overlaying right you can be like oh hey i want you to overlay these files on top of my what i've already got going on slash user to then add this extra especially with systemd where like you can override and hook in new units and lots of things.

Chris

They do say in the documentation though install at your own risk this could break things and i think that's the takeaway for this entire distribution is install at your own risk it's it's still early and that said brent i know you've had a little bit of time with it we've all just spent kind of the weekend with it i'm curious what your first impressions were.

Brent

As soon as i hit download it was the excitement i think anything coming out of the kd project i've been a fan of for a long time and we've been hearing.

Wes

About your bias here now there.

Chris

Is a bias for sure i think that's worth mentioning is i think all three of us we've become over the years pretty impressed with what the plasma desktop has achieved and the kde apps and ecosystem and the consistency that they've achieved so you're right brent but I think they've earned it. They've earned it by producing and being there year after year.

Brent

And if you look at the transition from the five series to six series and how smooth that went, it's really impressive from that team. And so I think I've been excited about this coming since we heard little murmurs about it. What was that? Six months ago, something like that. So it's nice to see it finally come out. And yeah, sure. I'm biased and excited.

So that was the first going into it emotion that i felt now i did of course see some differences like the download is a dot raw that was a little new for me i don't believe i've installed anything from a dot raw, uh typically you know you get an iso or something like that and i wondered if that would give me any issues but you know this being an alpha i thought i'm just gonna give it a quick test in a vm and that's, plenty fine maybe for a first go around

and that booted up just fine if you you know give it enough space and all of that stuff what i ran into quickly though was i had issues partitioning and i know wes you were like i didn't have any issues at all but something about my setup gave me issues in the installer yeah.

Wes

I installed it probably like 10 times overall just.

Brent

Because i I kept tweaking and trying stuff.

Wes

And all of them worked.

Brent

And I don't know what I did. I obviously tried to troubleshoot it quite a bit and I did make some progress and I ended up the auto partitioning wasn't really working for me for whatever reason. So I ended up doing, you know, doing it manually. And even then I would get to the install process and it would chug for a little bit and then eventually get some IO errors and things like that. So it could very, very, very well be. It's my particular setup.

Wes

How did you break your virtual hardware?

Brent

Why is everything always breaking around me? So I did the smart thing and wrote that raw image to a USB drive and figured, go bare metal, baby. And so I gave that a shot today. And strangely, that excitement was still there.

And I still didn't have anywhere to install it because I didn't want to wipe the entire you know framework maybe an hour or two before the show but I get a sense you guys might convince me to do that after the show but I did get it running and ran into a couple little bugs like plasma crashed one time and I did have some errors doing updates but eventually an image came in and I realized these are huge I know the installer told me hey you're gonna need at least 40

gigs to install this as opposed to what typically we see like 8 16 gigs something like that so i know there's stuff that's a little different under the if.

Chris

The images are big and if you've got a big faster net connection it's no big deal and if you're on a slower connection you really feel it.

Wes

They weren't even that fast i have a pretty decent.

Chris

Connection and it.

Wes

Was still you know a few minutes.

Chris

Yeah when i did the update ctl update or upgrade whatever it was at first i thought nothing was happening and then i realized that that progress bar was just taking a real long time it was just at like one or zero percent it does have.

Wes

A fancy little colored progress bar though.

Brent

That's true and.

Chris

Once that image is downloaded it switched so fast i thought it failed, so there's that for it it's got that going forward um i'm curious what your impressions were just kicking the tires wes.

Wes

Yeah i like it i mean it's a it's a very lean system pretty much everything's just in flatbacks a little bit in the base system as little as they can i think yeah so it's pretty snappy uh which is nice you know comes from a pretty nice little arch base for what you do get in the base system i was trying it out in a vm i did try it on hardware at the end too but in my first install i noticed that my mouse was totally upside down but in a way where

i clearly like where you clicked was down no longer where anywhere that was drawing the mouse so you kind of had to guess it was just like a little you know a few millimeters above that it's.

Chris

We run into that every now and then.

Wes

Yeah but not.

Chris

Unusual but i saw other folks reporting that issue as well.

Wes

And so i just thought like is this some weird issue you know what there's a lot of ways that could happen but it was just a plasma issue because like or something some way that they were plugging it all together because not only did it not do that at the login screen uh but then after i did an update it totally went away so um and i see i could see because i was running over a couple days that yeah they've clearly got their ci all hooked up and it's pumping out like daily or nightly

images that you get updates for i don't know that they have like the binary diff stuff that they eventually want to be able to do happening right now so you know do be aware of that if you're on a connection yeah.

Chris

Yeah if you're metered you might you might maybe wait because i'm sure it's under very rapid development at the moment.

Wes

I do think like if you're someone who really likes fresh Plasma and wants to live dangerously, if you can already make a system like this work where you are doing stuff in containers, you're happy to run stuff in Flatpak or as browser tabs, then for that kind of workstation, it'd be totally fine.

Chris

I asked you guys earlier, who's this for? And I'll tell you what my use case is. I want to check out Plasma from time to time. And why not spend the weekend in the latest Plasma?

Wes

And now that you've got the functionally atomic setup, while it is like this brand new setup and maybe you're on these unreleased versions and all that like that sharp edge is at least somewhat blunted by the fact that you can roll back if you do have a known good state that's fair.

Chris

That's fair you have that sort of safety net.

Wes

I'm not saying go switch all your business employees to this but you know.

Chris

I mean it right now is very much, it's an MVP it ships with Dolphin Console, Arc Spectacle, Discover Infocenter, System Settings and a couple other system level apps in the base image and then Kate and Firefox are installed via Flatpak. That's pretty much it, boys.

Brent

Lean.

Chris

It is. Which I don't mind. Discover is installed, already pre-configured to look at FlatHub. The one thing that really stands out, though, when you're on a really lean system and you open up Discover, I don't know what they're using to pick what shows. But, like, so if you wanted somebody to be able to sit down and install this and be able to maybe just add some of the most common applications, that's not what's on the front page of Discover. It's like a random selection of apps.

So you really have to know what you're looking for, which is fine, but it'd be kind of cool just to have, you know, maybe like a curated selection of like the most go-to apps that people need to get their system working and functional just right there. I was really happy to see ButterFS on route. Nice to see that. And they also have a Z standard compression, as our friends would say, enabled by default. They also have the SSD flag turned on.

but ultimately my impression was is plasma 6.5 i get to play with plasma 6.5.

Wes

What this.

Chris

Is great i don't have to mess up my my whole system just to go play with plasma.

Wes

This is another case right where like since they do have all the automation set up you just get these stamped output regular snapshots of what um what the trees look like i don't know the exact details but.

Chris

Some of the stuff that i that actually really tickled me in 6.5 has been in plasma at least for a couple of releases but just for an example the remote desktop stuff is so nice now, you go into system settings remote desktops in that there's a section for it you enable a user so i turned on i added my user and then you check a box and then it gives you your ip and so i went over to another computer i installed krdp or whatever it is put in the ip address set no

other settings hit enter and entered my username and password and i was remote controlling the plasma that plasma machine a katie linux machine over whalen over whalen on both systems on both ends no problem really good performance like i could move the windows around with the wobble and everything now obviously wait.

Brent

With the what what.

Chris

Did you say with the wobbles you gotta have the Wobble, right? I want the absolute latest version of the Wobble. I want nightly Wobble, okay? And I have it now. And the remote desktop, all that stuff, like the things they've been adding to Plasma, It's so well refined and comes together in 6.5. So who's it for? I think it's for people that want to just experience Plasma. Maybe you're creating an application and you want to see how it works on kind of like the reference Plasma desktop.

Because I think that's what this is striving for is the reference Plasma desktop. And for some users, that's going to be very appealing to them. For other folks, it might be something we check in from time to time. But, I mean, does it feel like an alpha? a little but like you're saying you can always revert like nate he's been running it for months on on the daily so it's getting to a point already.

Wes

I do think right like we are the ecosystem is adapting now to work better in this environment where like what you depend on from that core operating system is is less and less and that means there's less that you have to get to to get to sort of minimum viable distro in that sense.

Chris

I also get a vibe that maybe there's a long-term goal to create a reference platform for OEMs. Hardware manufacturers that want to ship laptops or tablets or whatever using Plasma. And we also seem to have a bit of a roadmap. Three additions are planned. Testing, which will be like daily Git builds. Enthusiast, which will be the beta versions of released KDE software. And then Stable, which will be only released quality checked software.

So you'll have three additions of KDE Linux eventually. There's only one right now.

Wes

Right because.

Chris

It's probably it's all just testing right now but uh that kind of also sort of slices it up right enthusiasts you could go check out the the enthusiast track of it or whatever you want to call it or the enthusiast edition i think it's good.

Wes

One thing i wonder you know in the ublue world there's it is very much on like the container side of this tech i wonder you know what you see there where it's also encouraged like you can just import that and add your own layers on top and make your own thing i wonder will people fork this will there be like you know system extensions or things that become like here's like an add-on for kd linux obviously not right now but maybe these.

Brent

Additions also get me thinking about who is the audience right like uh daily get builds i totally get that through testing even maybe enthusiasts you get bug checkers and things like that but i guess it's natural to put out a stable but is that really their goal makes me is that maybe for.

Chris

The neon folks that have been you know because neon.

Brent

Has been based on a boat to lts great so.

Chris

Maybe this is yeah for them, And if you were going to run it on the daily yourself, that might be the one you want to target. Because even with the stable version, I'm sure once the next version of Plasma is considered stable, you get it probably that day.

Wes

Although I wonder, because there's the Plasma component, but then there's, like, if they're using Arch as the upstream, there's the...

Chris

That's true.

Wes

I don't know how many net packages it is that we could take a look at. Maybe that's not a crazy burden, but in theory, that is rolling underneath still that you get snapshots? Unless they're backporting, you know, there's...

Brent

And Chris, maybe it's perfect for you. you run stable most of the time and then when you want to get that weekend where you get a little preview you just switch images to testing and give it.

Chris

A couple right you could rebase that is one of the that is one of this distro hopping is going to be something that we tell future generations that we used to do oh yeah we used to reload the entire system and we'd we'd we'd format it or some some of us would have separate partitions or drives for our home folder and we'd move we'd keep that between the reinstalls and it'd be a couple hours.

Wes

Or people had slick setups right on their case so they could switch, which was like the primary hard drive.

Chris

All the switches.

Brent

We used to like K-Exec, you know? That used to be a thing.

Chris

But now we just rebase and in five minutes you're on the new thing.

Brent

Lame.

Chris

It is nice though to be able to check things out. You could rebase to testing for the weekend and then go back to stable. So interesting. I think it's going to be a distribution to watch, obviously just because of who's making it. The security updates will lag a bit behind Arch. They say by a day or so. Maybe that gives a little insight to the process there. The governance seems to be run by, quote, a council of elders, according to LWN, with a final arbiter involved.

And if there's ever an end of life to KDE Linux, like they, and I like that they're talking about this. If the project fails, they say a last update will convert the system into another supported distro.

Wes

Thinking about the whole lifecycle up front is smart. That's, I don't know what that, what exactly that means, but okay, they're promising.

Chris

It goes back to neon.

Wes

Nix, NixOS.

Chris

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Brent

Chris, I got an itch this week, and it's to learn more about how Hypervibe is doing. You haven't talked about it for, I think, like two weeks now. Is this a bad sign?

Wes

We're worried something's wrong.

Chris

I'm doing okay. I've been biting my tongue, but some big things happened this week, so we're going to talk about it a little bit. While Wes, while we do this segment, attempts to get it running on a laptop live during the show. So, Wes Payne, are you ready to install Hypervibe on that laptop?

Wes

Well, we'll see. As Jeff knows well, you have a notoriously large config.

Chris

Yes.

Wes

So I think we're going to see what things need to get trimmed down to make this work.

Chris

My config highlights the best that free software has to offer. So there's a lot in there. So it's been a bit. Hyperland 0.51 dropped this week, and they added a new gesture. It actually completely reworked the gesture system. With true one-to-one trackpad gestures, you can map to fingers and modifiers and all kinds of cool directions, and you can now set scroll factors per device, which is really fun.

Wes

That's nice.

Chris

So you can dial in the mouse and you can dial in the touchpad and they don't have to have the same exact scroll settings. There was a rework on animations. I got a nice polish with smoother transitions for pop-ups. And screen sharing for Chrome and Firefox is fixed up a little bit with 8-bit color, so it's a little bit faster. So I had to incorporate all of this into Hypervibe. And I had to fix up some deprecated configs. I had to go in and change a few things around the new gesture system.

I got all that refactored. But the thing that was big is I also have a new shared module stack. So all my hosts now have a consistent base. And then I have independent configs for each host. And then I've cleaned things up to make builds go faster. Like I removed WebGTK.

Wes

Yeah, I wonder if you didn't push that yet.

Chris

Because oh maybe not i'm.

Wes

Having to do that right.

Chris

Now you're going to be building webg yeah i'm removing.

Wes

A bunch i think i i think i got it gone.

Chris

Yeah you're not going to want that it takes forever to build and it's telegram and folate they pull it in and telegram you can just install as a flat pack so i i guess in the config i haven't committed yet i pulled out telegram as a package and now it's making.

Wes

It harder for me.

Chris

I know i'm sorry i also now have fixed auto updates i had this ridiculous bug where auto updates were building the wrong version so now they're locked to my repos flake so the system only builds against known good configs i overhauled i overhauled the way bar the clock is cleaner supports multiple time zones in the drop down now now and some systems people are having problems with the emojis so i simplified that i also have set up better device rules so android phones

and a lot of usb gear just works without warnings you just plug it in and you should be able to access your usb device or like your android, I've moved to Kitty, and I've moved to NerdFonts, and that all looks really nice now. And I've installed Cursor. I'm playing around with the Cursor editor, and it should be able to edit the files it needs to edit and things like that. But all in all, new features, lots of tuning. It is all there.

The new version of Hyperland has launched, and Hypervibe, my distro on Nix, has taken full advantage of all of them. It's looking real beautiful. In fact, I was telling Brent before the show that I like the setup so much that I'm working from home more just because with an ultra-wide screen and the tiling window manager, I can achieve a lot of the productivity I feel like I get with multiple monitors. I don't think it's a one-to-one, but it's pretty close.

And it's great for work and it's great for gaming because I have GameScope and GameMode and all that stuff. So when you launch games, it's a full, ready-to-go gaming system. And when you want to work, it's really nice. and I've got key combinations that launch groups of applications and position them where I need them and all of it. It's just, I've been very happy. And I think it's going to be hard to go back to a non-tiling workflow.

Wes

Well, why do you need to?

Chris

I don't know. I don't know why you ever would. I don't know why you ever would. Okay, Wes Payne.

Wes

I might be ready to try.

Chris

No way, really? You got around WebGTK that quick? You stripped her down, didn't you?

Wes

I did. I did notice you have a few a bit of duplication in here that.

Chris

Is the old config.

Wes

Yes because.

Chris

I did actually go through and remove some of the dupes.

Wes

Because I was like why do I have to remove element a couple of different times yeah that's me you had some old plasma 5 packages that had to get removed yeah.

Chris

That is the old I'm sorry, No, I need what I know. No, this is whole. I wanted him to review what I got wrong. And problem is, is that I do kind of like batch commits. So I've changed a lot of things. And then I do one commit. And I just try to put all my changes in that commit. Because otherwise, I'd be committing stuff all the time.

Brent

Well, Chris, there's a good way to use Git and a less good way to use Git. Just saying.

Chris

Tell me more.

Brent

Or Wes will tell you after the show.

Chris

Am I using it wrong? Am I getting wrong, boys? I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

Brent

That you're getting at all is a huge success. So please don't stop.

Chris

Speaking of Git, we thought it'd be fun to kind of what Wes is doing with my Hypervibe config right now. Let's do for anybody. I wonder if we couldn't even make an episode out of it. So we want, once again, we're putting the call out for you to send us your configs. But we want to do it a little differently this time. We'll take a look at them. We'll call out what you got good. I love that part. We'll even call out if we're copying anything you've got.

And we'll call out the bad. So it's like, you know, it's all out there. And we may suggest a few improvements. And we want to be able to actually commit those improvements back. So we're going to put a link in the show notes for people to submit. Have we decided the best way for them to send it to us?

Wes

I think however they, you know, send a boost email.

Chris

No, no. I mean, like, we need it somewhere where we can get it.

Wes

I think we'll just have to fork as we go.

Chris

Okay. So just put it somewhere where you can link it to us. So send it in as a boost or send an email and link it to us, and then we'll grab it. That'll work. That'll work. And we want your Nix configs.

Wes

And then maybe we'll put together like a list of the ones that we receive or something and then link out to them.

Chris

Is there any other configs we want people to send in besides Nix configs that we want to look at? I mean, I just love config setups.

Wes

Sweet Ansible setups. That's fine, too.

Chris

I'd be down for that. Yeah. So boost them in with a link or email them in so we can take a look. and tell you what we think of them.

Wes

You know, if you got like a real dope Docker composed yam, we'll send that in.

Brent

Apparently we got a Hyperland guy here.

Chris

Hey-o. Okay, West Payne. So we're going to let you keep going. We'll give you through the next segment. We're going into the last half of the show. So you've got a little bit over there. We'll see how it goes. So ladies and gentlemen, stand by why West Payne tries to build Hypervibe on a laptop that's old and slow. yeah.

Wes

We do have we are doing a little bit of finishing building hyperland so there's that going on.

Chris

Uh-huh yeah so that's always it's always pulling in the absolute latest i it's one of the funny things actually was i knew about the new gesture stuff before uh the hyperland announcement of the new release because they broke in my config because i'm running i'm running raw man and so i i was fixing stuff in line as as uh they were getting published to the hyperland repo okay, Keep going, Wes Payne. Unraid.net slash unplugged. Go unleash your hardware.

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Brent

Well, this week we want to do a big shout out to core contributor Pierre G. Thank you very much for joining the core contributor team and the party.

Chris

Yay! I hope you get the bootleg this week. Check it out. Let us know what you think. At Brantley, we had a bunch of people take advantage of the fake boost link to support the Linux Fest trip to Texas.

Brent

Can you remind, what the heck is a fake boost?

Chris

Yeah, so I created a page that lets you use PayPal, Venmo, on-chain, or Lightning. And the reason why I'm calling it, and I'm calling it teasingly a fake boost, because you can put your name or a username, a handle, and a message in there, like a boost. It doesn't actually use the boost payments system, but it kind of replicates the experience of who you are, amount, and message. So it can give you. Um, and so Jordan Bravo took advantage of it with 10,000 sats.

He says, have some sats for the Texas Linux fest. I also hope you consider attending self next year. Since I live in Georgia, self is the only Linux conference I can reasonably travel. Oh yeah.

Wes

Yeah. It makes sense.

Chris

We get that one. Do you want to take the next one, Mr. Payne? I know you're in the middle over there.

Wes

Let me, I got to scroll up.

Chris

Oh yeah. I know. Brad and I could do it too. If you got a build to take it. I know you're in the middle of that.

Wes

Matt M. Fake Bootson with 250 USD.

Chris

Yes. thank you sir i think that deserves a baller.

Wes

Yeah it's not a fake boost at all that's some value thank you man i've been listening and watching since the linux action show all right and i'm hopeful for at least another 12 years of linux.

Brent

Unplugged yeah i love it yeah hopefully.

Wes

This will help with part of the hotel cost thanks to the whole team for all your dedication and hard work oh well thank you thank.

Brent

You by hotel i think he means you know the bus we're all gonna just pile in right oh yeah isn't that the plan that's the whole that was the long-term plan wasn't it uh-huh we got us a blender cat sending in a little message with a fake boost of 105 usds.

Chris

Not bad at all thank you sir.

Brent

Blender cat says i hope to see you all at texas linux fest okay.

Chris

Blender cat you got to come up and you got to identify yourself you got to introduce yourself Splendor cat.

Brent

Now. Yeah, please. Or wear a shirt or something.

Wes

I will accept a pantomime as well.

Chris

Okay. Matt F. came in with $50 and said, get some great barbecue. Thank you, Matt F. Appreciate that.

Brent

Can I just say, do not blend cats. Thank you.

Chris

Yeah, okay.

Wes

Crash Master comes in with $50.

Chris

Hey, Crash Master.

Wes

For Texas Linux Fest, get some good recipes from members in Austin for the lunch.

Chris

Good call. Good call.

Brent

Hey, wait, you can't call it that. Well, Vince P boosted in. Oh, no, that's not a boost. It's a fake boost. 200 USDs.

Chris

Hey, 200. Wow, thank you, Vince.

Brent

Vince says, cheers, boys, and enjoy the fest.

Chris

Thank you. D came in with $150. D says, here's some Fiat fun for the meat coma.

Brent

Much required. Thank you.

Wes

Phil J comes in with a fiver. Enjoy the trip, guys. Listener since 2020.

Chris

All right.

Wes

Started with self-hosted.

Chris

Yeah.

Wes

All the best to the JB team. Looking forward to hearing your coverage. Cheers from Switzerland.

Chris

Thank you, Phil.

Wes

Wonderful.

Chris

We will do you proud.

Brent

I've never heard of this guy. Carl George, a.k.a. Mr. Pocket Meat, fake boosted in a little 50.

Chris

Nice.

Wes

50 for the group. This isn't looking great.

Chris

It says nothing but barbecue. That's how you know it's Carl.

Brent

Three letters. BBQ.

Chris

Barbecue, yeah.

Wes

I think this counts as pocket meat.

Chris

Uh-oh, Wes Payne. What is it?

Wes

Failed to start display manager.

Brent

You don't need that.

Chris

What? Why? It is, it may be geared up for- We started our.

Wes

Power top tuning, so that's good.

Chris

I guess all my systems are AMD. Maybe that's, hmm. Oh, that's a bummer. That's a bummer. The Hypervibe fail. Well, you could keep poking at it, I suppose. I'll take Noah here. Noah came in with $5. Thanks for all the great content over the years. Safe travels. Thank you, Noah. Appreciate it.

Wes

Oh, good. Postgres is running, so that worked. oh good yeah it's ready to run as a server not so much as a desktop.

Brent

Isn't that the intention.

Chris

Oh man Donnie came in with $200, Keep up the great work and event coverage. Thanks for setting up this payment method for the lazy folks like me.

Brent

Thanks, Donnie. We still love you.

Chris

Yeah, I appreciate it.

Brent

Well, Brandon R. sent us one of those fake bees of 20 US dollars.

Chris

Nice.

Brent

Have fun in Texas and enjoy the barbecue.

Chris

We will. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. Joseph B. came in with 20 bucks. Finally, I can send some money without having to buy Bitcoin. I bet. Yeah. I thought that might be appealing to some of you out there.

Brent

We still love you.

Chris

Thank you, Joseph.

Brent

Well, Sunbake sent us 40 US dollars.

Chris

Nice.

Brent

Some for the trip. Here's some help from the other WA, Western Australia. We're three times bigger than Texas, but have many times less Linux vests. Looking forward to hearing all about it.

Chris

Can I just say how awesome the international support is to get us to go cover a Texas Linux event?

Wes

No kidding.

Chris

I really, really, really appreciate that. Thank you, Sunbaked.

Wes

David H. comes in with $100.

Chris

All right.

Wes

I've gotten much more than this amount in value from you folks and look forward to the continued great work. I was also lucky to attend the 600 meetup sometime ago. Have a great trip, David, in Burlington.

Chris

Well, thank you, David.

Wes

From around the world to right around the corner.

Chris

Yeah, really. No kidding. All right. So our total of fake booths so far, this is the grand total for the last two weeks, is $1,245.

Brent

Hmm. That's like the combination I have on my luggage.

Chris

You're right. I didn't even notice that. That's pretty interesting. Pretty close. That is darn near almost exactly in the range of what the VRBO is probably going to cost us. We found some that are probably about in the 10 to 15 minute range drive. I will warn you boys. It is nothing fancy. so i'm staying.

Brent

In the van is that what you're saying.

Chris

Maybe i mean it's it's serviceable it's got bedrooms um but it's not but we're all we need we're going for budget and with this we're going to be able to secure the vrbo weeks before we head down so thank you everyone that is a major cost that has been solved uh we still have gas we have hotel on the way down and probably on the way back and any meetup related costs that we are still fundraising for but this is a huge milestone and for the trip support,

we at least know we can secure a place to land. If we can knock out a few more of those expenses with the boost, that would be fantastic, but we really appreciate everybody that sent in the fake boost. If you want to do that, we still have the links in the show notes. It will still be available. It automatically gets tagged for Texas Linux Fest, and you get to put your name and a message on it. Thank you, everybody, who sent in a fake boost, and now let's get to the boost.

And how about this? Adversary 17 is our baller booster this week with 256,000 sets.

Brent

Wow.

Chris

Adversaries write sats for the Texas trip. Well, thank you, adversaries. We really appreciate that. That is a fantastic boost, and that is going right to the trip budget. To Texas we go, boys.

Wes

I like that you have stuff in here that, I don't know if you were yelling at the machine or what, but it has stuff, and it just says, preserving your existing config in all caps.

Chris

I had to make it clear. I had to make it really clear.

Wes

Well KRHill94 boosted in real clear With a hundred thousand cents Short and sweet For Texas Linux Fest Heck yeah We appreciate it Thank.

Chris

You 94 Really appreciate that That's great Right to the fund it goes.

Brent

Well we got a Padre here Sending in 71,282 Satoshis Okie dokie, here is a linux fast boost from a first-time booster hey.

Chris

Oh thank you for getting it all set up appreciate that effort too.

Brent

I started my dev journey on the lamp stack but life took a different direction i became a catholic priest about 20 years ago i came across jb by way of self-hosted which gave me an outlet to reignite my love of devops so naturally now i run a ramshackle home lab on half a dozen old PCs and Macs. Half of my church's IT needs are on top of NixOS, thanks to Chris and the Badger. I don't spend a lot of time on Linux, but I do love the show and the network.

Prayers for a safe journey to Texas Linux Fest and thanks for the hard work on that old JB. P.S. The total of these boots should be a zip code, but only time will tell.

Chris

Thank you, Padre. That is a great boost. I love to hear that NixOS has creeped in and brace yourself Wes because actually, All right, so this is the total of this boost should be a zip code, but only time will tell. What does that mean?

Brent

I feel like it's a riddle.

Wes

All right, and then you just spin the map around, you put your lucky finger down, and you land on Tallulah, Louisiana.

Chris

Louisiana? Tallulah?

Wes

I don't know if that's if I'm saying it right, but T-A-L-L-U-L-A-H.

Chris

That's fantastic.

Wes

In Madison Parish.

Brent

Will I be driving through there to get to Texas?

Chris

I don't know. Take a look at the map, Brent. We just had it out.

Brent

Can you unfold it a bit more? You're kind of hiding the section I need.

Wes

We were going to ask you what your route was, but you're asking us.

Chris

I know. This is not how this works.

Brent

Boosting what you think my route should be. Thank you.

Chris

He doesn't know. Biggles knows. He came in with 50,000 sats. Thank you, sir. Looking forward to the Texas Linux Fest coverage. Here is my small contribution. Not small at all. We really appreciate any value people can contribute.

it is extremely humbling and, comforting isn't the right word but to know that the Linux audience that chooses to listen to our podcast at least has our back you know like there's a community behind us we're going to go down there and we've been doing this for a long time so you know we're going to deliver right you know we're going to do it you know we're going to try to have a good time too and we're going to try to get you great coverage and come back with a solid episode

so any amount people can contribute is really appreciated thank you Thank you for the boost pickles. Chlorophore comes in with 47,180 sats. This is a live zip code boost Westpain. So you're doing double duty right now. He said, I agree. I hadn't heard one for a while. So here is a zip code boost. It's 47180. Oh, here comes the map again. Going from hyperbuild to map Like a machine Is.

Brent

That a hypermap?

Wes

Okay, what do we got here? We got 50,000?

Chris

4-7-1-8-0 4-7-1-8-0 Oh, I see.

Wes

I was one back Yeah, there we go, That explains why I was in the water.

Chris

Yeah, you're way off on the map. That's right. I think you got to go over there. There you go.

Wes

Not next to the oil rig.

Chris

Ah, careful.

Brent

It might be metric too, Wes, just in case.

Chris

Ooh, I hope not. Metric zip codes are hard. You got to do the conversion.

Brent

Is it in progress?

Chris

I think there's a hint here. It is, yeah. The pause. What is this last bit here, Brent? You need to read that. The pause.

Brent

I would prefer if you read it, but you know, if you really need me to. You sure?

Chris

Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

Brent

Pozdrowinia poloski this is i think polish i have a teeny tiny bit in my old roots but i i don't got the language i apologize for everything i just did.

Chris

How's the zip code uh search going over there west not so good yeah.

Brent

There is a 47-180.

Chris

In poland oh okay i think.

Brent

I think you're i.

Wes

Don't know if this is right though I.

Chris

Think you're over the target, at least. Thank you. Appreciate it, Chlorophore. You've kind of stumped us, but I think we're close.

Wes

Yeah, I'm going to have to do some more research and maybe get a bigger map.

Chris

Damn, comes in with 43,100 sats. Thank you. First time booster. Yes. Thank you. Long time party member. Oh, my goodness. Thank you. I use Linux every day as a visual effects artist working mostly on TV commercials. What?

Brent

Neat.

Chris

We need to know more about this. I got my start by accidentally wiping the family PC with RHEL 2.1 in high school been.

Wes

There doesn't that happen to everyone.

Chris

Man when I screwed up the family PC dad was so mad he says thanks to JBI almost all my installs are now Nix OS I hope this gets a tank of gas for the Texas Linux Fest thank you sir, I'd love to know more about using Linux for the visual effects stuff even just software distros what works what doesn't work that's fascinating really appreciate the boost thank you for taking the time to get that all plumbed up.

Brent

Well tomato or maybe it's tomato sends in 28 000 sets.

Chris

There you go uh.

Brent

This might be a haiku but i don't know my poems so here we go i nodes at night are big and bright deep in the heart of linux the h top sky is wide and high deep in the heart of linux fedora's whale along the trail deep in that heart of linux the nixies rush around the brush deep in the heart of linux these are some sats to help you with your trip to that old 28th state yeehaw.

Chris

I like that thank you very much tomato nice to hear from you exocena comes in with 25 000 sats, Almost 10 months since my last booth. Sorry about that. But I have perfected my NextCloud. He calls it my NextCloud. With one command in the terminal, you can create a ready-to-boot SD card image for a Raspberry Pi 4 or 5 with NixOS and NextCloud ready to go. Automatic mounting of USB devices and NextCloud external storage and peer-to-peer remote connectivity enabled.

You can check it out on my GitHub. up we'll put a link it is a jjack 13 or jj 13 slash nix club we'll put a link in the show notes the direct p2p connection with no firewall or no ports exposed it'll work behind your net all you have to do is just scan a qr code you can also install it on your existing nix system he has a link for that too he says i also have a pr pending for emerging nix packages when i first tried it blew

my mind you gotta give it a try thanks for the show keep it up that is an awesome project It.

Brent

Looks like these peer-to-peer tunnels are from a project called Wholesale. Wholesale.io looks completely open source, free for some P2P good action. I should give this a look.

Chris

Thanks for letting us know, and thank you for the boost. We'll put those links in the show notes if people want to check them out.

Wes

Augustine boosts in with 20,000 sets.

Chris

Hey-o!

Wes

My summer vacay started with the mother-in-law's dog sitting on the Ethernet cable that's plugged into the ISP's little fiber box.

Chris

No.

Wes

Completely wrecking it.

Chris

Oh. That was bad placement, I just gotta say.

Wes

So we were cut off from the outside world for two weeks. The ISP was not quick in fixing it.

Chris

Oh, that's so frustrating.

Wes

That's ouch, yeah.

Chris

Oh, man.

Wes

This, however, showed self-hosting's true colors. We could still watch shows, movies, and listen to music from Jellyfin. And I could listen to audiobooks as well as catching up on Linux Unplugged episodes that I downloaded with Audio Bookshelf.

Chris

That's so great.

Wes

It feels as one is cheating the system.

Chris

I totally agree with that.

Wes

Even though I do think this is how the system and tech and services should work.

Chris

Yes.

Wes

Here's some sets for the road.

Chris

Thank you, Augustin. That's really great. Boy, you and I are locked in on that vibe. Let me tell you, it's so great, especially when you're offline and it's still working. It's just, whoo. It's how technology should be, but it ain't always that way. Appreciate the boost.

Brent

I just want to take a moment here to pause and say that was all of our baller boosts. We haven't even gotten to the slightly less baller boosters, so thank you, everyone. Now, SatStacker7 did send in two boosts for a total of 7,000 sats. Hey, it's me, the user who pinged Wes about using Mesh Sidecar with Paperless Module and apparently triggered last week's Paperless Deep Dive.

Chris

Yep, it's your fault.

Brent

I am glad to hear you tried it and liked it as much as I do. I paired it with the old ScanSnap iX1500 duplex scanner and connected it over USB to the machine where Paperless is running. I can recommend the Sane project for scanning on Linux combined with the command line tool Sane Scan PDF that acts as a wrapper and lets you configure scan jobs.

Chris

I've heard it works really well. I mean, ultimately, you just need to get that PDF into the consume folder. And so you can do that with any old scanner that can out. It doesn't have to be a PDF, but I think that's probably the preferred format. But what I love about this setup is with Sane PDF, All your scans go to PDF. It just produces that PDF. You could have it go scan directly to the consume folder, which is probably what SatStacker is doing, and then it just gets imported.

That's pretty nice. All right, so again, that was the SnapScan IX1500 duplex scanner.

Wes

Getting tips from the pro. I like it. Thank you.

Chris

Yeah, I appreciate that. Okay, Groovy came in with 2,000 sats. No mess is just value, which we always appreciate. Thank you very much.

Wes

Poppy Boosin with 7,832 sats.

Chris

Uh-oh Wes guess what zip code is a better deal I love it it's.

Wes

Just such a good deal.

Chris

It is such a great deal, this is we appreciate the zip code boost we're making Wes work today he is earning his split that is for sure okay so we got 7.

Wes

8, 3, 2 but first multiply by 11 so naturally Chris as you know that's 86,152.

Chris

But then you need to add 1 for the zip code okay Sure we do I love it, Let's use parenthesis I don't mind holding the corner if you want me to hold on to that I know it's big Just hold it still Wes I don't know why I have to move it around so much.

Wes

Alright do I got this right 7, 8, 3, 2 multiplied by 11 Plus 1 So is that 86.

Brent

153 That's my math.

Chris

There you go.

Wes

Okay, well, let me double check here. We got a couple of leads.

Chris

Oh, my God. With the math and all. Okay, what you got for me, Wes?

Wes

What you got for me? Maybe this is a postal code in Germany? Augsburg? A city in the state of Bavaria.

Chris

Oh, nice.

Wes

That's going to be my official map guess this time around for 86153.

Chris

Thanks, Pappy. Let us know if we got it right. That's great. Doornail7887 is here with 4,444 stats. That's a big duck. Texas Linux Fest, baby. Also, would you mind doing a quick tutorial on setting up a small matrix server again? I want to join my matrix, but of course, I want to do it the hard way and use my own instead of someone else's. What is the best way to do this if we don't want to make it publicly routable?

Is this possible, or does it need to be online for many use cases, for his use cases? Well, you probably do need to be online in order to, what do they call it, Wes, when you bridge?

Wes

Talk to other people.

Chris

There's like a terminology, though.

Wes

Federation.

Chris

Yeah, when you federate, thank you, when you federate. So you will want it online, but there's a lot of ways you can do that. Honestly, I think home matrix servers are a really good idea if you're up for the config, which is a bit of an uphill climb, but there's a couple of options out there, the Ansible route being probably the most popular. You can throw it on a VPS, a pretty cheap one for just a handful of users, and that might be the way to do it.

And I think that's one of the brilliant things about Matrix. We shouldn't all be reliant on matrix.org. We are looking into Matrix-in-a-box type solutions to recommend to people, So if anybody out there has some suggestions, obviously we are aware of the Ansible solution, but that might be a bit of a lift for some folks. So boost in if you, uh, if you have any suggestions for that.

Brent

Well, Jordan Bravo sends in a good old row of ducks.

Chris

Yay.

Brent

Uh, I thought this was an automated message, but it's not. It says no message, just value.

Chris

Always appreciate that. Hey, guess who's back? Aaron's here with 3,333 sats. I just spent six hours troubleshooting why my games were running at two frames per second after updating to the NVIDIA driver 580 on Kubuntu. Turns out, you also need to update the Flatpak NVIDIA components to match the driver version. Insert facepalm here. So, if any other noobs like me are running into the same problem and have Steam installed through Flatpak, make sure you're running Flatpak

update. You can do that on the command line, just Flatpak update, if you've installed the new NVIDIA driver recently. I'm kind of feeling like Chuck E. Cheese out here, boys. Hey, Aaron, you got it working, though. That is, there are multiple layers there. It's a good tip.

Brent

That's also, yeah, great PSA. Thank you.

Wes

Hey, and even in the thanks today, we got a Texas boost from MJVC with a little tiny binary boost, 1-0-1-0.

Chris

Awesome.

Wes

Sats for the trip.

Chris

Thank you, everybody. Thank you, everybody. Also, stream sats as you listen. 25 of you did that, and collectively, You stacked 31,884 sats. When you combine that with our boosters, we stacked a really incredible 700,287 sats. We're getting really close. I'm feeling really good about it. I think we're getting, I mean, it's happening. That's what I feel like. I mean, we were committed, but we can really start actually doing this now. We can book places.

I don't know if we're fully there yet, but I just really want to say a huge thank you for everybody for reaching out and doing this. Think about what we're achieving here. We're doing something that traditionally has been funded by commercial entities that want an exchange. They want us to do something for them or cover their product while we're there, whatever it might be, which sometimes is a good fit, but not always. and this time it wasn't.

And we're doing this now with our community and our audience. And it's open source content creation at this point. It really is. And we're going 12 years strong. We're going to get down there. We're going to have a great time, thanks to our audience, for the 12th anniversary and get us set up for another great 12 years. Thank you, everybody, who supported it, either with a fake boost or a boosty boost. And if you'd like to do that, you can get in on the action with Fountain FM.

It's probably the easiest way. Or AlbiHub. And then you can just use any of the apps that support that. It's also a great way to get started. And of course, a big shout out to our members who are supporting us every single week. You're our foundation out there. We really, really do appreciate you too.

Picks

Okay, how about a couple of picks before we get out of here? And then we'll check in on how the old hyper build is going one last time. So the first pick this week is, it's a genre now. I think it's officially safe to say the lazy genre is a thing. And we have a new entrance. It's Lazy SSH. A terminal-based SSH manager inspired by Lazy Docker.

Lazy SSH is a two-week and an interactive SSH manager that sits on top of just different directories for managing quite literally a fleet of SSH servers if you want. I mean, I have like a handful, right? A dozen maybe that I want SSH into, which is nice for. So you can navigate and connect and manage and transfer files between your local machine and any server that's defined in your SSH config. You don't have to remember the IP addresses. You don't really have to worry

about SCP commands anymore. it all takes care of it with a clean, keyboard-driven TUI. It's really sweet. It looks really good. And it's got fuzzy search, so if you kind of remember the machine's name or IP, if it's been a while. One key press SSH into selected servers. You can tag servers like prod, dev. You can sort by alias or last time you logged in.

Wes

Okay, I'll have to give this a try. It does look like quite a nice little two-way.

Chris

It is.

Brent

I like all the color highlighting and stuff too. It seems like I should have needed this years ago.

Chris

I'm loving the lazy. You know, we have lazy Vim. We have lazy Git. we have lazy docker and now we have lazy ssh it's pretty new it's 93 percent written in go and it's apache licensed so uh you can go have fun with it and we'll put a link to that in the show notes for y'all you can check that out.

Wes

Now do you have um lazy hyper vibe because.

Chris

I think we might need that uh-oh okay.

Wes

Well i was able to figure out that well you had auto login going on.

Chris

Oh, really?

Wes

Yeah, you have GDM running, and then it does auto-logging.

Chris

So that must be doing, okay, yeah.

Wes

So I turn that off, and then, so GDM's working again. It was just core dumping before. But now, when I try to log in, Hyperland core dumps.

Chris

Oh, man. Do you have any suspicions as to why?

Wes

I'm looking at the logs. failed to create DRI2 screen LibGL warning Hyperland has crashed oh there's a crash report yeah.

Chris

I wonder if you're it's interesting I wonder which base config it uses when I have two different systems well we're going to play around with that I.

Wes

Based it on Nixstation.

Chris

That makes sense Nixstation has multi screens, RVB is a more simpler system with only one screen, picked wrong you might have you might have been there if you picked the rvb route i don't know but clearly i still have more work to do and i have one more pick wes actually found this one is called term dot everything term dot everything is a linux command line program to run gui windows inside your terminal quality of the window is limited to the number of rows and columns in your terminal,

But I mean it. If you've got a newer terminal like Kitty or iTerm2 or something that supports some video rendering, you could take your desktop applications and you can put them in the terminal. Wes, I don't know how the hell you found this thing.

Brent

That is bonkers.

Wes

And how I didn't find it during our freaking terminal challenge.

Chris

Well, yeah, no kidding. It works on both X11 and Wayland. and in the video demonstration, they show somebody taking their Firefox web browser that's watching a YouTube video and pulling it into the terminal and then it's being rendered by terminal characters and they're watching a video. What is going on? This just completely short circuits my brain.

Brent

There's another screenshot here and the description is Behold as I play a video game in a font, in a web browser, in a terminal transmitted over SSH with one hand tied behind my back.

Chris

This is our kind of guy.

Wes

Yeah, I think it hooks in as like a Wayland renderer. Like it talks the Wayland protocol, but then it uses the terminal to...

Chris

Right. So only certain terminals are going to support this. Kitty, which comes pre-installed on Hypervibe, does support this though. So, I mean, this is next level stuff. This is next level stuff. Go check out the link in the show notes just so you can see what the heck we're going on about right now.

You're not going to believe what they've been able to do with this app and it's gpl3 so absolutely crazy and bonkers, and worth just going and looking at the videos that they have embedded on the github page even if you don't install it just go marvel friends at what is possible and uh, Try it out, maybe. That's all I got. I could use a few good picks if people want to send those in.

Outro

If you're looking for an excuse to support our trip to Texas Linux Fest and you want to include a pick in your message, I'd love to have that. Of course, we're going to be wrapping up this whole getting to Texas Linux Fest, essentially next Sunday. It's kind of the last one before we're hitting the road. And it's getting really close, you guys. It's getting really close. Also, I'll put a link to Hypervibe. It's on my GitHub. I'd love you to go check it out.

We'll maybe fix up some of this stuff and we'll do a new commit. should probably have done a commit before we got down this route but I'd love you to check it out and give me your feedback we'll have that linked in the show notes and if you give KDE Linux a go we'd love to also capture that experience too we will be live next week. That's right make it a Tuesday on a Sunday join us 10 a.m. Pacific 1 p.m.

Eastern you can get more show that way we always have the mumble room going and our live chat but we have a pro tip for folks Wes before we get out of here we have a couple extra benefits.

Wes

That's right if you want to skip right to your favorite content.

Chris

Check out our cloud chapters yeah they're.

Wes

Right there in your podcast.

Chris

Client and.

Wes

If you need to get even more fine grain we have transcripts.

Chris

So you can follow along links to what we talked about linuxunplugged.com slash 632 thank you so much for joining us on this week's episode of your unplugged program see you right back here next Sunday.

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