SpaceX's 11th Starship Launch and Elon's Vision for Space

Josh: So just yesterday spacex launched their fully stacked Josh: starship which measures almost 500 feet Josh: tall it's the largest object that's ever gone to space and two parts went up Josh: both parts came down and they both exploded catastrophic explosion and the explosion Josh: was gigantic everything that went up came down everything blew up but the point Josh: of this mission is that that's actually exactly how it was supposed to go. It was a wild success.

Josh: These test flights, when SpaceX sends these up, they're not expected to land. Josh: In fact, most times they don't. And this is the first time where it actually Josh: landed in the right place. Josh: So Ijaz, what you're seeing in this video here is the booster that is kind of Josh: hovering above ground before falling into the ocean and exploding. So this was amazing. Josh: Ijaz, I know you were also watching the launch last night. What were your first

Josh: impressions? What did you think watching this?

Ejaaz: My first impressions was, why is this thing Ejaaz: exploding josh and i have to be honest for Ejaaz: our listeners here um josh i see you're rocking the Ejaaz: spacex hoodie let's go you can Ejaaz: see that i'm rocking a horse which is pretty much the opposite of a rocket i'm Ejaaz: old school i'm old-fashioned and i'm like okay this rocket is cool alon's launched Ejaaz: a bunch of spaceships already what's so special about this and after digging

Ejaaz: under the hood josh this is actually super impressive. Ejaaz: I think the one line which kind of like bamboozles me about SpaceX's vision Ejaaz: is they're building the infrastructure for space. Ejaaz: I think up until, you know, very recently, many people thought of space as like Ejaaz: this kind of like cool thing. It's like, yeah, it's a once in a lifetime mission.

Ejaaz: It's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. But what SpaceX is trying Ejaaz: to do is reduce the cost of that to the equivalent of like a bus ride, Ejaaz: So that becomes pretty normal to colonize humans outside of Earth.

Ejaaz: But can you explain why this launch is so important, Josh? Josh: Yeah. So Starship Mission, I mean, like you were saying, to back it up, Josh: is the intention is to get to Mars. Josh: And they're very dead set on getting to Mars. And the problem with getting to Josh: Mars is that you need to have a low cost per kilogram to orbit. Josh: That's kind of how this thing works is if you can't get mass to orbit, Josh: then you can't create a copy of Earth to live on Mars.

Josh: And the thing with colonizing Mars is that you actually need every single thing Josh: that Earth needs in order to be self-sustainable in the case that the planes Josh: or the rockets stop coming. Josh: So, Ejaz, if you send, let's say, 100 million tons to Mars, but you forget vitamin Josh: C, everything dies over a certain period of time. Josh: So you really need to be able to deliver every single critical element for life.

Josh: And that requires a ton, literally metric tons of mass to orbit. Josh: And the problem is getting that Josh: cost down to as low as humanly possible. So back in the day in this with the Josh: space shuttle program, it cost $60,000 per kilogram to orbit. Josh: With the new starship, the projection is hopefully going to be as low as $50 per kilogram to orbit. Josh: So this is like a huge decrease in how they're able to do this.

Josh: And the reason they're able to do this is because of rapid reusability.

Josh: And that's what we saw yesterday. That was the idea of the test yesterday is Josh: to test how reusable these rockets are. Josh: So we probably should talk about the reason why this test in particular was Josh: different than all the others. And it's because of the heat shield. Josh: Now, the heat shield is a very critical part of this rocket because the heat Josh: shield is the single most challenging part to get right in order for the rocket to relaunch itself.

Josh: So what we're seeing here is the crux of the heat shield, the way that they've Josh: been able to make it work.

Josh: Because a lot of times, the reason why a rocket can't survive is when it comes Josh: back to orbit at 25 000 kilometers per hour uh Josh: it's really freaking hot and that's a lot of plasma it's a lot of heat Josh: and it just melts everything but what we're seeing here on screen is this Josh: thing called the bakery where starship literally bakes Josh: 18 000 of these tiles the same way your grandma Josh: would they take some ceramic they throw it in an oven they cook

Josh: it and on the way out comes out these little hexagons they stack Josh: 18 000 of them together and it blocks Josh: the shields from overheating the problem is again Josh: you just the reusability where you need to be able to get this Josh: rocket back to earth and then take off rapidly right afterwards and Josh: the problem is that they've been falling apart like they've kind of fallen Josh: off some of them don't hold some of them

Josh: can't resist the heat properly so what they did is they invented this thing Josh: called the crunch wrap which is such an outrageous name shout out from taco Josh: bell yeah we're seeing the crunch wrap supreme literally like the crunch wrap Josh: supreme that's where they get the inspiration from and i love this and what Josh: we're seeing on screen is oh they were actually able to take these tiles, Josh: these little ceramic plates, and they wrap them in this felt material.

Josh: And the problem when you're going through space really hot is the metal expands Josh: and contracts quite a bit. Josh: So you need to have space in between the tiles, but that space let a lot of heat in. Josh: So what they did is they created this kind of malleable material, Josh: which is the felt, and it allows the metal to heat up and expand and condense Josh: and shrink while keeping these heat shields all intact. And it was amazing.

Josh: And what happened on this launch was they lost less than 1% of the heat shield Josh: tiles, where in the past, they lost 5% to 10%. Josh: So the fact that they got this number down so low is the single probably biggest Josh: win of this entire test flight yesterday that we saw was the fact that they Josh: have a reusable heat shield. It's never been done before at this scale.

Ejaaz: Okay, so if I were to summarize what you just said, Josh, Ejaaz: you're saying that the reason why Elon is testing out so many of these rockets Ejaaz: and blowing all of these up is to come to the ideal rocket architecture that Ejaaz: can colonize humanity outside of Earth. Have I got that first part right? Josh: Absolutely. Yeah. You got to build something that scales and that can be mass manufactured.

Ejaaz: Okay, cool. And so to get there, he needs to reduce the cost of taking heavy stuff up, right? Ejaaz: Like right now, when it started off with the first rocket from NASA, Ejaaz: it was super expensive, hundreds of millions of dollars. Ejaaz: Reducing that cost to something much, much cheaper than that is important, Ejaaz: but also reusability is important, right? Josh, that's one way to kind of like drive it down.

Ejaaz: It's like, if I can use the same rocket ship over and over again and not have Ejaaz: to reconstruct a new rocket ship every time one comes down and crashes, Ejaaz: we should be fine, right? So both of those things kind of are running in parallel. Ejaaz: And you're saying one major factor to help us get there are these heat-proof Ejaaz: shields or these heat-proof tiles, which are getting built in this SpaceX bakery. Ejaaz: That's what we're calling it, right? These countries.

Ejaaz: Are these things literally made of ceramic, by the way?

Josh: They're literally made of ceramic. It's so funny. it's just like what you did Josh: in like elementary school middle school art class um it's no different than Josh: that they put a little coat on the top it's like a little more sophisticated Josh: than that but basically they're just baking ceramic taco Ejaaz: Okay so where my mind goes to immediately next josh is um with the things that Ejaaz: they're taking to space what what kinds of things are they going to be taking

Ejaaz: to space like i get the the mars thing right and that i still can't quite wrap Ejaaz: my head around because i'm like okay you like what materials are you taking that are you Ejaaz: bricks to build a house like how do we know if we can even live there but um Ejaaz: the most immediate thing that i remember us speaking about a few Ejaaz: episodes ago was satellites right and Ejaaz: these satellites are part of starlink v3 which is getting

Ejaaz: um you know their new satellite um structure which is Ejaaz: basically going to beam down i think it was like 60 terabits worth of data to Ejaaz: earth which is the equivalent of me having like super fast internet cabled internet Ejaaz: at home but anywhere i am like wherever i am if i'm on a quaint little mountainside Ejaaz: um where i usually won't have reception,

Ejaaz: Am I getting that right? Is there any other thing that I'm missing in between Ejaaz: satellites and building homes on Mars?

Josh: Well, that's pretty much it. Josh: It's satellites, and then the satellites fund the mission to get to Mars. Josh: So Starlink is one of the largest cash cows of SpaceX, along with the private Josh: missions that they send up on behalf of governments or private industry, Josh: where they will take large satellites and they will send them into space.

Josh: What Starship enables, like you said, it's just much Josh: bigger objects into orbit so like you Josh: mentioned the starlink v3 has 60 terabits of downlink Josh: speed per launch whereas the falcon Josh: 9 launches with the starlink v2 or 2.5 that Josh: they're at now they only had three terabits per second Josh: of downlink so every single one of these starship launches is equivalent Josh: to 20 old launches which is

Josh: just an outrageously large scale at how quickly they're going to improve this Josh: network and not only that but the latency comes down the total bandwidth goes Josh: way up it has a much further range and yeah we're seeing on screen kind of the Josh: difference between them so the version 1.5 fairly small version 2 pretty big Josh: version 3 is like gigantic it is dude Ejaaz: This is like much bigger 10 times larger than v 1.5.

Josh: So much larger and it's it's really exciting because version 3 satellites will Josh: enable people like me and you to actually be inclined to use the network a lot Josh: of people now for starlink the users they're in the middle of nowhere. Josh: They're not in very highly populated areas because that's where it kind of works Josh: the best. There's not a ton of bandwidth on the network. Josh: If you live in the middle of the woods somewhere remote, or if you live in like

Josh: some super foreign place in a jungle, you use Starlink. It works amazing. Josh: But when you apply these high bandwidth satellites, not only can you use them Josh: in more densely populated areas, but like we had in our episode a few weeks Josh: ago, you could actually go direct to cell. Josh: So EJs, if we're going on a hike somewhere in the middle of nowhere, Josh: well, now your cell phone could actually get service too, thanks to these new satellites.

Josh: So it enables this huge unlock in terms of satellites but then also in terms Josh: of SpaceX Starlink satellites but then also in terms of private industry there's Josh: a lot of telescopes there's a lot of rovers like a lot of these larger objects Josh: that want to go to space but have no vehicle to take them there Josh: Starship enables that and all of these tests like you were mentioning Starship Josh: the test flight 11 last night it's all in an effort to find a flight proven

Josh: architecture basically create the blueprint that you could then copy and paste Josh: and start doing this at scale like we saw with the last Rocket the Falcon 9.

Ejaaz: Okay, Josh, I want to talk about the spacecraft itself. Ejaaz: This thing is huge. What we're seeing is an image of this spacecraft next to some old models. Ejaaz: You know, we've got the old school NASA models. Ejaaz: And just height-wise, this thing is crazy. And it's super thin. Ejaaz: Like if i remember correctly the outer shell of this spacecraft is the thickness Ejaaz: of two credit cards put together sorry how is that possible.

Josh: It's outrageous they use hfs which stands for hard f and steel and he does if Josh: you if you that is the scientific name it's hfs i swear to you there's no way Ejaaz: That's right i'm gonna look that up.

Josh: Well it's real and actually you can go outside and see this right now you just Josh: because if you go and check out the cyber trucks that are rolling down the road Josh: which there are plenty of in the city um they are wrapped with the same exact Josh: hfs that is on starship it is just a cold rolled stainless steel that Ejaaz: Is super strong you're not lying.

Josh: It's called hfs um and it's it's Josh: remarkably strong strong that's why uh your cyber truck is bulletproof Josh: it's because it's made of the same stuff that starships are made of um and Josh: a lot of the the complexity comes from actually pressurizing the cabin Josh: so that they don't um either collapse under pressure or Josh: over expand under pressure but the scale is gigantic it is what we're seeing

Josh: here is um the starship basically consists of two parts there's the first stage Josh: which is at the bottom that's the booster they call that super heavy and then Josh: there's the second stage which is the actual ship on top and both of those ones stacked together Josh: 394 feet tall so that is equivalent to about 40 Josh: stories tall so you just if you ever stood on top of a 40-story building you've Josh: looked out that is the the view from the top of starship it is unbelievably

Josh: tall it's 30 taller than the statue of liberty i think it's 60 feet shorter Josh: than the great pyramid of giza this thing is like gigantic and yeah you can Josh: see here for scale on the video humans Ejaaz: People just look tiny yes so so so josh the the super heavy part part one the Ejaaz: booster is that primarily to get the ship you know up into the air is that primarily Ejaaz: just like fuel and rocket boosters.

Josh: That's exactly right so the the booster exists literally Josh: for its name to boost the ship into earth Josh: orbit or low earth orbit at least because earth's atmosphere is Josh: super dense it takes a lot of energy to break through it but once Josh: you've broken through it and you're in the low earth orbit and going into outer Josh: space there's a lot less atmosphere there's a lot less friction against your Josh: ship you just need that smaller top part to actually go

Josh: out into deep space um and this is where Josh: the payload is right exactly so the entire Josh: booster that whole bottom part that you're seeing it's all fuel Josh: 100 of that bottom part is fuel and then Josh: most of the top part is actually fuel too like a large percentage of Josh: the stack is just fuel and then towards the Josh: very top of the bay is about room for 150 Josh: tons of reusable payload um so it's

Josh: a lot of fuel and actually one of the interesting things that they're going to Josh: start doing with the next version version three of the Josh: rocket is they're going to refuel that top part in space Josh: so what they'll do is they'll send up two versions of the ship one Josh: is a tanker and then one is the actual ship they meet in Josh: orbit and they kind of like kiss each other and then one refuels the other and

Josh: that's how it's able to get out to mars um so it's this really remarkable thing Josh: what we're seeing here is the the rendering of the version three and that's Josh: that's exactly the kissing that i'm talking about they they have a tanker and Josh: then they have the ship and they connect and that's how you refuel it Ejaaz: So um this launch that we just watched um that was intentionally exploded is Ejaaz: the sign before we move on to this next version that we're seeing on our screens

Ejaaz: right josh can you tell us like what the major differences are and what we can expect.

Josh: Yeah so one of the biggest differences this is Josh: the thing that i am absolutely obsessed with is the raptor 3 engine so they Josh: have a whole new engine architecture that you're using and as a result a lot Josh: of things need to change so what you just saw in the past one it was a new fuel Josh: tank everything about the outside mostly looks the same everything about the Josh: inside is changing so the fuel distribution is changing a lot of the um

Josh: the telemetry things the grid fins that control the ship are changing but the Josh: most notable part is these raptor 3 engines and it is if you go back actually Josh: to that image i love this image so much because it shows the three iterations Josh: of raptor and it just shows like what what a great company is possible is is Josh: capable of doing seems much less Ejaaz: Complex than yes.

Josh: But it's much more powerful too so that raptor 1 Josh: engine had was so complicated it looks Josh: like a bird's nest there's so much stuff going on it's really difficult to understand Josh: it has to have its own heat shield built in and it weighed Josh: 2 000 kilograms so it's not Josh: very reusable it weighs a ton and it Josh: is only able to i mean only able to the thrust that you can Josh: get out of it is 185 tons raptor 2 looks a lot more elegant and raptor 2 that

Josh: decreased the weight by 400 kilograms it has some more heat shield built in Josh: so there's a little less maintenance before and after each flight to reuse it Josh: but still pretty complicated and lifts the thrust up to 230 tons. Josh: Now, Raptor 3 looks like you could put that in a museum. It's gorgeous. Josh: All of the complexities are embedded inside of the engine. It is much more complex.

Josh: And yet, it has a record-setting 269 tons of thrust. It weighs 100 kilograms, even less than Raptor 2. Josh: And there are no major limitations, meaning it can just go up into orbit, Josh: come back down, relight, and go right back again. Josh: So it is this unbelievably complex engineering challenge that they took on and Josh: that they were able to do. Josh: And I think it's a testament to how SpaceX operates. It's just really considering Josh: these things from first principles.

Josh: Like, how can we make an engine the best possible thing using no off-the-shelf Josh: parts? All this is custom tooling.

Josh: And as a result, they got an engine that is way faster. And like, Josh: look at this video that's it is so much force that's that's 269 tons of thrust Josh: from one single engine um it's it's a marvel Ejaaz: This seems like something straight out of a movie josh um like i i feel like Ejaaz: if you tell anyone that um how many of these did you say are going to be in Ejaaz: the new new ship oh i want to.

Josh: Say there's 31 to 33 something like that there's a good bit of right Ejaaz: Right so if you told me that hey, 33 of these two credit cards worth thick Raptor Ejaaz: rockets are going to blast 150 tons and much, much more probably in V3.

Ejaaz: Up into space, into orbit, I would probably laugh at you. I would be like, Ejaaz: this thing is flimsy. I don't know if I could trust this. Why is it wiggling around? Ejaaz: There is no other company that is building like this, Josh. And I was trying Ejaaz: to think about, you know, other kind of competitors that come even near SpaceX.

Ejaaz: And I just fall flat every single time. I think Elon and SpaceX and the engineers Ejaaz: and what they've built and what they've achieved to date is in a league of their own. Josh: Truly. There's nobody who's close. There's a lot of companies who are trying Josh: to build interesting things, but there is genuinely no one on Earth who's close Josh: in the sense that if SpaceX shuts down tomorrow, we have no space program.

Josh: We have no easy and affordable way of getting satellites into low Earth orbit. Josh: We have no aspirations for becoming multi-planetary species. Josh: We have no redundant internet. Josh: If we lose connection down on Earth, we have no secondary network to exist in Josh: space. So it is very much a monopoly. Josh: And you could start to understand why when you see how complex these things Josh: are, how big they are at scale.

Josh: And yeah, I love the image you're showing here because there's also really great culture there too.

Josh: This is an image from their, I guess, from Starbase, right? Where they take these things off from. Ejaaz: It's to get into Starship. Actually, it's the top level. Ejaaz: And before you walk in, you see this painting, which is just probably the most Ejaaz: inspiring thing ever if you're an astronaut going up in one of these things. Josh: And it's this beautifully like hand-painted astronaut holding his hand out, Josh: starship in the reflection, standing on Mars.

Josh: It's really amazing. And one of the funny things is a lot of people just, Josh: There's this disconnect between saying we're going to Mars and then actually Josh: understanding the downstream effects of getting to Mars. Josh: And I think a funny thing that I learned from following SpaceX over the years Josh: is that they actually have entire teams dedicated to coming up with life on Josh: Mars, meaning like here is everything we need to ship.

Josh: Here is how the government structure is going to look. Here is how we're going Josh: to like distribute supplies. Here is how we're going to build the first base, Josh: the second base, the third base. Josh: And there are teams that have been doing this for years because they are so Josh: certain that their mission will succeed, that they will be able to get life Josh: on Mars. And they do have a rough timeline trajectory.

Josh: I think first moon missions are going for 2028 and then the Mars mission around 2030, I believe.

Josh: So within the next five years, people will actually, or at least rockets will be on their way to Mars, Josh: which is, it's just cool it's a really exciting thing yesterday's launch Josh: was amazing progress everything that could have gone right Josh: went right um and it was really a step in the right direction because Josh: the last couple of launches this is this was launched number Josh: 11 they had some serious problems like there Josh: was one of the rockets it fully exploded prior

Josh: to even getting off the launch pad a total detonation destroyed Josh: the launch pad they had to rebuild it there was another rocket that um Josh: when it tried to get pressurized it totally exploded so there's been a lot of Josh: problems along the way last night's flight was amazing everything went about Josh: as good as it could have and what we're going to see soon is they're going to Josh: try to actually catch the starship rocket which is going to be a really exciting

Josh: development because once they get that thing caught Josh: We're on our way.

Ejaaz: I really hope this happens in my lifetime. I hope that the cost of travel to Ejaaz: get to space is affordable enough that I can go with me, my kids, Ejaaz: maybe even my mom and kind of like see what's up and out there, Ejaaz: maybe even a colony on a different planet. Ejaaz: It's interesting, as we have gone through this conversation, Ejaaz: I kind of think as Mars is like the first step to all of this.

Ejaaz: I remember when I was a kid growing up thinking like Mars was this like really, Ejaaz: really far off thing to happen. Definitely not in my lifetime. Ejaaz: And now it just seems like, you know, it'll happen and then we're on to the Ejaaz: next big kind of planetary jump. Ejaaz: Satellites getting out there, moving different types of payloads, Ejaaz: whether it's like telescopes that you mentioned earlier. I feel like it's all just phase one.

Ejaaz: I can't even imagine what comes next. But I know that there's only one company Ejaaz: that is doing this. It is SpaceX. Ejaaz: They cut the cost of space flight initially down to, what was the falcon 9 um Ejaaz: cost cutting josh do you do you remember this they cut it down to like a 12th Ejaaz: or like 126 it's it's one of those numbers.

Josh: It was some outrageously low number yeah of Josh: how how low it went relative to others there's also Josh: a video you just i'm going to send you that i would love to show Josh: because it's just um it's it's awesome to Josh: see the effect it has on other people Josh: like it's more than just a mission so one of the cool things is Josh: is the downstream effects of getting to mars means that we have Josh: unlocked a ton of new technology it means that we have um

Josh: we're able to create food and life on Josh: another planet which means we need to have a lot of forms of portable energy a Josh: lot better battery technology a lot better agricultural technology Josh: but also this video that we're showing on screen it's like what's inspiring Josh: the next generation to want to do cool badass stuff like it's Josh: it's so fun being able to sit down and watch these launches and Josh: and see like these kids just sitting down and like getting super expired

Josh: because for a long time when children when Josh: we're growing up like the thing they wanted to be was an astronaut that Josh: was the coolest thing and now the most popular answer is like oh i want to be Josh: a tiktoker i want to be an influencer and i really i mean personally i love Josh: the idea of people starting to get inspired by seeing things like this to want Josh: to do these ambitious things to build rockets to go to outer space to build

Josh: satellites to give us internet from the stars like it's just Josh: More than anything, it's an inspiring mission. And thankfully, Josh: they've managed to put an economic engine on it to continue to fund the progress Josh: that happens and to continue to work on this mission of getting payload to orbit. Ejaaz: Where do I buy this stock? Honestly, I know it's still a private company, Ejaaz: but I need to get my hands on this.

Ejaaz: Makes me very bullish, Elon, if I wasn't already bullish enough on all his other Ejaaz: companies, if I wasn't already clear about that on this show.

Ejaaz: Josh, is there anything else that you need to share with us about this? Josh: Well, there's one more forward-looking thing that you actually mentioned this Josh: to me a little while ago, is that you're like, well, why can I not get to London in like 20 minutes? Josh: And this is very much that answer. It's like, if you are able to really just Josh: perfect the reusable rocket ship where you create this, an airplane, Josh: but for vertical takeoff and landing.

Josh: I mean, when we were watching the launch last night, that starship went across the world in an hour. Josh: Like it was on the complete other side of the planet in an hour.

Josh: So if you can create this technology and you can actually really refine it, Josh: produce it at scale, and you lower the cost to orbit down to $50 per kilogram, Josh: well, I would imagine the cost to low Earth orbit or sub orbit, Josh: which takes you up and then over and then into Europe, would probably be not that expensive. Josh: And you could basically get anywhere in the world in like 45 minutes or less. Ejaaz: So the funny part is, I think you could sell a lot of people on that.

Ejaaz: I think a lot of people will start talking about sex would be super. Ejaaz: But if I told my mom that, like, hey, you could go to Japan. Ejaaz: It's been a dream of hers to go to Japan in 20 minutes. She would be down. Josh: Yeah. So I think that's an important thing they want to leave people with is Josh: it's not only about getting to Mars. Josh: It's the second order effects that come from understanding the technology to Josh: get to Mars, where we can mass produce these rocket ships.

Josh: If we have all this new technology, it gets applied to a lot of really interesting Josh: industries, like the vertical takeoff landing rockets, where you and your mom Josh: can go to Japan for lunch and then come home before dinnertime. Josh: And like that's just an easy and normal thing so it leaves a Josh: a lot of, I think, optimism and excitement around for, for me.

Josh: And I think for a lot of people who watch all of these launches, Josh: it's just, it's awesome to see there's more coming each as we were talking yesterday. Josh: We got to go to Texas, go see one. Ejaaz: We're going to go. We are going to go. Josh: Let's do it. Cause that'd be a dream. These things are early next year. Ejaaz: We're going to have it in the background as Josh and I live stream our updates Ejaaz: about it. I cannot wait. I need to get myself a SpaceX hoodie as well.

Josh: Hell yeah. Yeah. We'll get matching hoodies and also Easter egg for anyone who's Josh: near texas um all there's a law in texas where all the beaches are public Josh: and starbase where they launch these starships the beach Josh: sits right next to the launch pad so you can Josh: actually go to the beach and be like less than a mile away from this gigantic Josh: rocket ship and really get a great view of it um and just see what it's like

Josh: up close so when we go that's exactly where we're going and i am i'm really Josh: looking forward to seeing one of these in person because my god what what an Josh: exciting thing that would be i can't wait well tom cruise of top Ejaaz: Gun step aside there is a new cowboy he's a Ejaaz: space cowboy in town elon is leading the way on Ejaaz: spacex um i cannot wait for the next couple Ejaaz: of launches it seems to me that like every new launch gets that much less complex

Ejaaz: but somehow way more powerful and somehow way more cheaper and i still i know Ejaaz: i keep talking about it somehow way more thinner um josh unless there's anything Ejaaz: else to say let's um let's round this up.

Josh: Let's wrap it up that's it so the next launch is going to be version three this Josh: was the last launch of version two architecture the whole new the new launch Josh: is brand new everything about the internals are going to be new all this new Josh: stuff is rolling out we will be here covering it all the way um but until then Josh: that's been an episode on spacex starship Josh: launch 9 launch 11 launch 11 i'm losing track yeah it's 11 thank you guys for

Josh: watching as always very much appreciated any final prompts before we go um Ejaaz: No but tell us if you enjoyed this space episode um josh and i i i consider Ejaaz: myself an amateur when it comes to these things josh is is super enthusiastic Ejaaz: and plugged in and i love learning from him but do you guys enjoy learning about Ejaaz: this stuff if not is there a different angle that we can cover are there other Ejaaz: space companies out there i already know the answer there is not.

Josh: Let us know let us know well thank you for watching we'll see you guys in the next one