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of gassed himself up. And maybe wish for thinking that he played tweets forty five, But I think he resurrected the way he's playing the game. Um, not just by him taking hit, but he actually looks more mobile now and doing more think more accurately in the pocket than

he did five years ago. So I don't know exactly which part of this game he got better at, but it's it seems to me that as long as he stayed off the ground and he stayed away from big contact, uh, and they keep building on what they have right now, he he probably will played two. He's forty five years old. I talked about yesterday on the show, and we've obviously been unpassed sacking in a lot during the course of

the week. Um, is ten super Bowls even if he doesn't get to another Super Bowl, which I think based on the way he's playing right now, it wouldn't be stunning if he did. But is ten Super Bowls even something that anybody else can aspire to get to? Or is it one of those crazy almost unreachable records that's out there right? I compared it like to Joe Joe DiMaggio hitting in fifty six straight games. Uh, maybe the long time record of how many games in a row.

Cal Ripkin played in in Major League Baseball when he broke Lou Garrig's record. Is it a number that like you look at and think, oh, I think another quarterback will ever get to ten? Or do you just look at it and say, man, that's crazy. I don't think anybody in our life will ever be able to achieve that. Well, you know what the thing is, I hate caning the word never, right because we all know that records are

meant to be broken. Um, And then not to mention the game changes every ten years or so, right, So I mean, you know, ten years ago, we didn't see anybody like Patrick the Homes. You know, when he's throwing motion, he's capable of doing it. And ten years it's gonna be a match Patrick Mahomes times too write it's gonna be some guys. There's some kid that come in there. They're throwing off his back leg and eight yards on the diet. I mean, it's just just the way the

game is. Um. But with that all being said, you find it nearly impossible for somebody to play that long, Uh go to the super Bowl that many times, not just go, but also when because you need so things to happen right. You need to have the same organization, same coach, same system, not get injured. You know, I think the only year that Tom Brady miss was that eight year or somewhere around there when towards a c L. But outside of that, I mean, you need all the

other things to go right. So it's almost when you when you put it that way, it's almost impossible for it to happen with another team or another player. Did it surprise you, uh, the degree to which the of

a defensive line whipped the Kansas City Chief offensive line. No, No, and I and I said that going into this game, I actually had the game being around thirty thirty one, you know, even though they you know, had some drop balls and and and incomplete passes, even with the line being banged up as they was, because I figured that Andy Reid will come in that game and have enough game plan knowing and look, I'm a former defender player, and I'm and I'm telling you exactly everything that the

tempt they bucketeers gig going into this game is what I would have wanted to do as they as they if I played against them, you know, and I said that they had to stop Sue and JPP and those guys are front Shaq Barrett, it was gonna be a long night, and it was. They had no answer. And knowing that, you know, going into this game, it was complete, but it was It was a nasty game. We haven't seen Kansas City played like that ever, you know, since Pat Mahomes and that that core has been there. We've

never seen them play like that. So I don't think anybody anybody is saying they expected the game to go that way. Their line. It's no way that you expect at them to score that many points when you look ahead. I started off my show talking about the rise of the quarterback position, and it's almost like there's two different cast systems almost in the NFL right now, there's the rules for quarterbacks and there's the rules for everybody else.

It seems like that chasm, that difference between the quarterback position and the other players is only growing, both in terms of compensation and also just overall in terms of attention. Did you feel it like that when you were playing, and do you feel like even since you've left, it's become more of a quarterback versus everybody else league? It is, But you know, let's let's look at it this way. I mean, you're you're CEO of the company, is gonna

get paid more than everyone else? Yeah, it's just you know, they're running the ship. They determine whether that team makes a hundred million or three hundred million in profit by the end of the year. I mean that's how that's how big of a difference in that quarterback position. So you know, people can complain and say, oh, it's a quarterback league, and trust me, I hate it. I hate to see a guy on accidentally going across the side of a guy's helmet, her neck or something like that,

um and they get flagged or in find. I mean, those are things I hated a formal defensive player. But speaking of business terms, that one player is single handedly responsible for your organization being the most profitable depending on them winning the winning the football game. You know, when I played at me, obviously, I was kind of courting up between where the quarterback started to get that type of love. I mean, you had your Tom Brady's and your Drew Brees and paid Manny, you had your stars.

But if you started look now halfway across the league the quarterback position and kind of the separation of in a different down than it was in the last two years, it's astronomical. You know, look in passing holes. A half a billion dollar contract before he's all said and done, that ten fifteen years ago is unheard of. And that's what in the next three or four years, it's gonna be way bigger than that. People are gonna be scratching my head at somebody getting paid seven hundred million dollars

over ten years in football at that quarterback position. But it has to be another Pastor Mahomes. Hype of guy is gonna come into the league which won't happen for the next five or teen years. What do you think is gonna happen with all this quarterback drama? You got Dak Prescott the Cowboys start here. The Cowboys left him

out of the hype video. Now that you may say that's ridiculous and you know, like it's petty, but there's no way the guy who made the hype video did that intentionally, right, And if he did, if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm like, we gotta fire this dude, right, Like, who does he think he is leaving Dak Prescott out and creating all this drama That seems like it would be intentional to me? What do you think about stories like these? And then Dak Prescott supposedly goes out and follows the

Washington football team on Twitter. How do you think all of that kind of adds up? This is a game of chess at this point, right, um, And I think that we've seen for the first time ever someone stopped going up by them not playing. I mean, you know what, we've seen what that team was with Doc, and we've seen what it wasn't with that saying you know, for the most part, same core players and I know they had a few offic fli'ming to go down and and

auple a couple of guys get thanked up. But you know, I always and I always said this, and and I probably take some of it back by saying it, but I always thought that Dak Prescott was above average quarterback. I don't think he was great. I didn't think he was gonna go out there and while anybody. But you know, you gotta give somebody credit when credit is due. He did a lot for that football team. And I'm not

just talking about stats. He gave them motivation and uh, you know, just the energy to go out there and feel like they can win football games. And when he left it, there was a drop off. Now I think that Andy Dalton came in there and and and then he served a purpose. And their whole point of bringing Andy Dalton in it in the first place was to let Doc know you, Okay, if you want to after

this year, go on. We we got somebody here that we're stable enough to win with right um, that we can win some football games that he didn't have to be back Prescott. But you know, when you have that coming in, it's gonna probably be asking for forty million dollars plus a year or close to it. Uh, you gotta start looking at the difference between Andy Dalton and Dark Prescott. Are you willing to move on from Dark Prescott? But we're seeing nothing now but a chess match. That's

all we're in talking to Sean Merriman. Encourage you to listen to the Lights Out podcast with him. Uh. In awful news, Uh, Marty Schottenheimer died at the age of seventy seven. I saw your tweet about him. What was he like as a coach? What was he like as a person? You know, Marty? Uh coach Marty schottenheimert for me. I go back and I look, and I got drafted in two thousand five, and you know, obviously they had that great year in two thousand four and that's when

they went Trove four before I came in. But I really say this, I was fortunate to walk in the locker room to not only the players and the teammates that I had, but fortunate to be coached by Marty Schottenheimer coming in because you're talking about some one who was a just a leader amongst men, like he can get you going at any given time. He was just a natural born leader and he can inspire you and

motivate you in different ways. Um you know, and and I'll I'll give you an example and just the type of person he was. In two thousand five, you know, we're playing to cancer to the Chiefs at home and you know, they're running the ball and they had priest homes in the backfield. I went and ran across field and I knocked out priests homes. And when I tell you, and knocked Marty was sleep for two commercial breaks, right,

and I came over there and I was celebrating. I was screaming on the top of my lungs and you know, I went on the sidelines celebrating, and Marty Schottenheim grabbed my face mask and he said, lights, great hit, but don't forget that his family and friends are watching. And at that moment, at that time, it hit me all at wanted saying that, you know it was it was a sign of humility, umility, humility and a sign of

you know, humbleness. And in that moment of me just kind of going crazy in the field because of his big hit. He was worried about priest homes, his family and his friends and who was watching Knocked Out. And I learned a lot from Marty. I learned a lot from him because you know, he was hard on you when he needed to be. But then he'll walk up to you, uh in training campus he's been busting your ass and working hard and playing a game like you

should be. He'll come up and walk and cap you on the back and say, you know what, take the day off. Because he loved to take care of his players. So, um, you know, I was fortunate enough to uh, you know, be close enough with his family while I was checking on checking on him here and there when he was spending a majority of his time at his home in North Carolina and just checking on him periodically, and you know, and went from him being okay, okay, then it was

a real bad drop off with his health. And uh, you know, towards the end of it, he would remember some things and he will you know, kind of forget who you are, but also remember something from ten years ago. He would ask about me and my mom's relationship, and me and my family's relationship, and certain things he will remember. So all those things, man, you know, I'm gonna miss him, and and uh, you know, the unfortunate things happened, but we lost just a great one, not just a great

coach man, but just a great man in general. Uh. That is a great testament to Marty Schottenheimer. I heard a lot of great things from people who knew him well. Um and Uh, a lot of outstanding stories. There much less serious news still in the NFL. Carson Wentz, Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, all of the drama surrounding these quarterbacks. We just talked about DAC. What do you think is going

to happen with these guys? Russell Wilson Uh went on Dan Patrick yesterday and said, basically, he doesn't feel like he's being consulted enough. You talked about the CEO and and and maybe these guys should be more involved in decision making. Deshaun Watson, that seems to be similar kind of criticism that he has. And then Carson Wentz. Everything's just kind of falling apart in Philadelphia. Do you think of those three, it looks like Carson Wentz is the

most likely to move. Do you think that anything happens with Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson? So absolutely, But Carson Wentz is moving on because he has great little choice, right, I mean, they drafted somebody they had to play that he can play well enough and play better than Carson Winsdey last year. UM. So that's one thing. But as far as Deshaun Watson, UM, I just don't see him lining up for and taking another snap for the Houston

Texas at all as he should He shouldn't. Um. And like I said before, I do believe when God get pays to go out and do your job and you're getting paid a lot of money, but also on the on the flip side of that, you're playing guys a lot of money to not put them in a certain situation,

and sometimes you can. You can't give gods enough money to lose or to walk in the locker room every day and you get me your ass kicked in and it's it's just look at the locker room as a funeral because it's it's it's so bad and they're not giving you the tools to go out and be successful.

And I and I always try to, you know, bridge the gap between business and being the CEO out hearing me, look at the CEO is going and you get your employees are not up to par and they can't walk to do a job, but you're you're telling them that they still have to work with them no matter what. Why why do you have the CEO there? Why do you have him running the company when he don't when he can't make his own decisions on who who should and who should come in. Now, all I'm saying is

things should happen. And this goes from Russell Wilson too. James have to change their ways in the way they're dealing with guys because the money is so bad because of your asking these guys to do more than they did fifteen twenty plus years ago. It's not about playing football anymore. These guys, you're asking them to lead a multi billion, multi billion out of organization. So the least you can do is have these guys in the room and just get their opinion. Hey, what do you think

about this guy we're bringing up? Now? You can still do what you want at the end of the day, but let's have let's get a few opinions. Hey, what do you think about this guy? We're looking at this coach? What do you think about him? If you're going out and doing things your own without consulting your CEO, your biggest player and the most important player in your franchise. That's the problem. Should the owner or the coach be

more involved in consultation? And do you think it's a coach is not wanting to give up power situation or an owner not wanting to give up power situation that is implicating some of these disagreements. Where do you see the lines of communication getting broken up? I think it's both. You know, for one, everything starts at the top. Nothing happens when with the organization unless the owners approves or

disapproves of it. And that goes for letting the coaching make a decision where you can bring in your own guys. So I just feel that you know at least what the the owners that are hands on with the team organization. But it doesn't take much. You know, you've got some owners that are very hands on and you've got some owners that you know, this is a side think for them and not gonna the biggest business that they have, right, I mean, so you go and look at it and

how things are structured. Just sit down with the guy. I mean, look, Russell Wilson has been getting this head ripped off for years. So the big hits, and he has to pull out so many magical plays and uh so, you know, just just things that we're not accustomers in. He had to go off there and work his magic, and you're not gonna give him the resources a better offensive line, a better running game, and they got DK Metcalf. But you know, for four or five years straight, Russell

Wilson has been taking the beating up there. So if you're not gonna give him the tools, you're not gonna give him the tools. At least let him have some input. Why is he there? It's it's a good question, and this may be a crazy question for you, but I have no idea what the answer is. How often do NFL players, especially a guy like Russell Wilson have the telephone number to be able to text or call with

the owner of a team. I know, the coaches and the players would be texting back and forth, you know, a decent amount. Do you think very many players in the NFL have the relationship where they could be texting with an owner of a team? Is that common, uncommon, abnormal? Normal? How would you assess it? Obviously, uh phones, phones, the relationship with a phone is different now than it would have been in the nineteen eighties or the nineteen nineties.

But do you think that the average like Russell Wilson, could he interact with the owner of the Seahawks. Is that a common thing with Deshaun Watson have cal mcnaire's phone number and be able to text him? What do you think about that? Absolutely? They should, Yeah, I agree they should. I'm just wondering how common it is. It's

very common. And I'm not trying the best friends o basis, but there has to be some kind of a mutual respect level where you know, you can get a text once, you can call him and say, hey, uh, you know you got time on Friday or some day's week, right and come up to the office and just talk to you, right, because the door has to as as a good owner, the door has to be open, right, especially and I'm not saying you got the third string cornerback coming up

there and bitching and complain about not getting playing time. I'm talking about you know, your quarterback. Uh, that's that you ask that You're asking, Hey, we need another ring and we need you to lead us. Hey, well you know you can lead yourself to this office too and give me some in and some input, and that should always happen when you're asking that much of a quarterback, with that much of a player, now your top guys always And I knew that the LT talked to Dean Spanals,

and I talked to Dean Spanals here and there. But you know, I would expect Philip Rivers to talk to that. You know him more than I would. I mean, you're you're asking the leader team to make those conversations and make those things happen. But in my opinion, every quarterback in the National every start quarterback in the National Football League, should have an open door to the team owner. It's

a good point and it's an interesting perspective. Uh and uh, and I wonder how many of them have great relationships or not always good stuff. Sean Marriman, go listen to the Lights Out podcast. I Heeart Podcast Network. We'll talk to you again soon. You gotta thank