Jake Paul's Trainer And Professional Boxer BJ Flores Talks About Jake Paul Is Something Special, And Paul Will Continue To Prove Critics Wrong - podcast episode cover

Jake Paul's Trainer And Professional Boxer BJ Flores Talks About Jake Paul Is Something Special, And Paul Will Continue To Prove Critics Wrong

May 13, 202121 min
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How did a professional boxer come to train a Disney/YouTube sensation? BJ Flores steps into the Lights Out ring and talks about his first encounter with Jake Paul and what led to him wanting to train him. Flores wants critics to understand that Jake Paul is the real deal and has something special. So, which opponent is next for Jake Paul, and who does BJ think would be a great matchup? Flores is real candid in this interview with Shawne, and after listening, you too will change your perception of Jake Paul.

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Are you ready for this? Sean Merriman a one hand ef back Boom boom, boom out, go to light. This is Lights Out with Sean Merriman. What's up, guys. We're back with another Lights out podcast with me Sean Merriman. UM,

and we're going boxing to day man and it's strictly entertainment. Um. I know, I talked about it a few weeks ago with Jake Paul's fight and been asking we got his his trainers right hand man j Flores, a former high school football player himself but also a hell of a box who had a hell of a career, And uh, you're not gonna speak you know, in the first turn basis I was there. I've seen the work that they put in UM and just this wold wild road that they've been on as far as with Jake Paul and

him growing the sporting you know, look, it's entertainment. Uh. He has a great following the pay per view shows that they're entertained and they want to see more fights like this. And we're gonna find out next what's for Jake Paul and his trainer b J Floors. Yeah, what's going on there? So, so what's next. Maybe you guys have been kind of flying out and doing you know, I'm sure it's been a whirlwind. And I talked to the trailer guys down then Ryan and everybody, and I

know they're planning something here. What in September or October? That sounds about right. Jake's Jake's agent has been working on that kind of low key, so I don't have all the details exactly, but yeah, I mean they definitely want to have him back. I think late August early September is probably the timeline they're looking at. And uh, we got a couple names floating around right now. I can't really say because I don't want to get any any situation where you know, they don't want to do

the deal after I say it. So so so so let me. I'm I'm a back up man because I used to play used to play football too, right, so never never at a level L no, no, no no, what yeah? You all you all stay? Yeah? I was a stay and then I was. Before my sophomore season at Snow, I was a preseason All American wide receiver. Um, you know, I injured my hand. I'm straying about honestly. Before our first game I had three touchdowns on our in our

our final scramments before the games. The season started and I did something to my handstring that stame like the next week and I could just never recover. And I was injured my entire sophomore season. So I didn't really have a breakout year. I didn't do that good. I had like forty catches, like seven touchdowns, like it was all right with nothing crazy and and just kind of you know, pushed me over the boxing because I played by I do boxing half the year and I played

football the other half the year. But after and after your DUCO you go to Division one school, I mean it's it's it's seven on football. You can't mess around. So I chose boxing. So I always say this too, And I think a lot of especially former athletes to get injured or come across something. Maybe he had a bad coach, you know, putting guy put in the bass situation, maybe got in trouble whatever that is, to end up transitioning over in the combat sports. What what do you?

What is you? Because I'm I'm pitting. I'm pushing guys now. Said, look, if you get injured early or you know, you're done with the game early pick up some form, pick up some form of combat a school. I don't know if his boxing and it may do something. What what was the deciding factor? Man? It kind of push you over to to getting getting in a boxing Well. I won my first national title when I was ten years old. So I won my second national title when I was eleven.

I won my third on fifteen, I won the national Bolden gloves O were all fifty states when I was eighteen years old at a hundred sevent eight pounds. I mean, I was always one of the top boxes in the country. And then I won the US Championships, which is the biggest, the tournament that they used to decide the Olympics, the Olympic team. Um I won that in two thousand one, two thousand two. I won every every tournament in America. I won the Four Nations tournament against France and Germany

and Australia. I won the Korea China duels, and I started getting a lot offers the term pro and boxing, and you know good offers, you know the kind of money, the kind of contracts that you don't really get offered unless you know you're an Olympian. So That's why I went ahead and I turned pro the year before the Olympics. But the kid I beat, Devin Bargas, Uh, he was the Olympian for you know for two thousand four as

a headyweight. I beat him all three times I fought him, so you know, he thanked me whenever I turned pro a year early. But you know that was kind of a deciding fact. But what I would tell people is this man like look like just just competing every day. It's very important. I think it's just important to compete in anything you're doing, you know, in your job and you're anything you want to just compete and it brings

out the best of you. So any guys who get injured, you know, like like hand to hand combat combat like this, it gives these athletes and their careers are maybe terminated a little early from an injury or whatever, it gives them opportunities to compete, which is very valuable for from my mental well being. No how to question and I and I tell people now even why I trained the way I do is it's number one mentally, you know, emotionally, you get up, you got something, you gotta reason to

get up. But that's what you need. First of all, you gotta a reason to compete. You gotta reason get up so great great boxing career. And then you fast forward now onto how did you come up? Well? The first times you meet Jake Paul? How did that happen? I made him. I came out. I came out to Big Bear before his fight, uh would give January two thousand twenties. So I was out there December in Big Bear and I started. I came out as a sparring partner. I spared him twice and then ah, I just saw

a lot of potential in him. And he's really tough kid. I liked him. He's nothing like what people think he is like online. He's nothing even like that. So I had a real good experience with him. He was such a hard worker, and I noticed how hard he worked in the very beginning, and I really like that about him. He's dedicated. He did everything we asked him to do. Man, he was just he works his ass off. So that that's when I first met him December of two thousand nineteen.

So so I even tap onto that because a lot of people do ask me about I said, look, man, this this dude works. He does so when I came up, When I came up to the Big Bear with you guys, and I stayed for those couple of days. I'm not gonna lie. I had the same outlook on on Jake, just as everybody else did YouTuber, social media, looking forward, tanch and this and this, and I and I saw something completely different. And we've both been around professional athletes lives,

so we know how guys work. So the first thing that I noticed is that he was a total opposite of what I thought I was gonna see when I came there. He worked hard, pushed through, didn't beat your complaint. And I said, Okay, when I saw that, I said this, this kid got a he got a real, a real chance. And so I want to I'm I'm vouching on that because I know a lot of people want to say, oh, he's not doing this, if he's doing that, or he's

doing whatever. Um So him being a raw athlete. Even the day we we out, we ran on the field on the football field that day, I said, Man, this dude, he pushes like hell. He actually just wants to win. He's a winner at heart. Man, You're you're right about that, and you just and it's good that you saw firsthand because you can. I mean, you've been around pro athletes here. I mean, he don't won't get his credibility until he beats more people. And I understand that it's part of

the game. But um, the kid is working man, trust me. And and that's not even that's not even when he started getting good. He's really started getting good when we went to Vegas for those four or five months, he was sparting with everybody all over the I mean good pros and he has no business being in there with But because it's fundamentals and his basic technique so good. He can do two or three things that will give anybody a problem. You know what, it doesn't matter who

it is, we'll give. He'll give somebody a problem with. You know, even good guys. He'll give. He'll give problems at least two or three things that he does really well, which I'm not going to disclose. But he, uh, his fundamentals are very good, his techniques very good. His spacing is good. He's got a great left hand, which you know, Sean, the left hand will take you around the world. Your

right hand will take you around the block. So he's got that left hand and Muhammad Ali I'm not comparing with Muhammad alive, but I'm saying the importance of the left hand is so important and we've really worked and developed that. So he's uh, he's he's coming along really nicely,

and I know he's spared the other pro boxes. So so when I see people, what do you say when people say, oh, yeah, he's fighting on YouTube or he's been been asking what do you what are you saying to that because I know and you know that he's sparred other pro boxes, other quality, real quality guys. Are you just sitting back saying, okay, you just wait or are you guys? Is it kind of getting out of

your skin because you know what he's already done. If I disclosed some of the videos and I gotta Jake beating up with some good pros like trust me, it would be uh, it would be eye opening. But you know, in the in the in the business of boxing, we don't do that. We don't. We don't. We don't postparing videos of guys that were you know what I mean, we don't do that. So a couple of distraggler guys who came in the gym we post that, but nobody that I respect do we post just had a respect

and just kind of an unspoken rule in boxing. But if people saw what I saw him the gym every day, man, there would be no questions about it. And you've you've seen a little glimpse of it, Sean. But even in the last six eight months, man, he's really he's really turned on to another level. He's really something. And uh, he's just working so hard. He's got such a good team around him. He so focused. Um, there's no distractions, and he just listens. Man, he's like a sponge. He

really does. We watch film, We spar we watch film. I believe film study is very important. I feel like there's a lot of advantages that you can gain by watching your opponent and in not having the old fashioned mentality like oh I'm gonna whoop his ass, it doesn't matter. I pick up little things. I watched people what they do. My dad was very big on film. When I was a kid. I would always watch, uh, the guy who

watch fighting. The next night in the tournament, my brothers would be over filming him in the ring and I would be fighting on one ring and the next guy who I'd fight the winner. My brothers would be filming him and watching them. So we go home at night and we watched the film, we break it down, and I'd have a full game plan coming in on day two of the tournament, dame day three of the tournament. And I feel like that's something that I brought to

Jake's camp, that it's very effective. He's he's very smart, he's he's studious. He pays attention, and we look for little things, a little little opportunities that we can take advantage of. We we don't try to do a lot of things, but what we do do we do really well, no no doubt. And so he's going to continue to get better and and what no matter if and people forget that he's only been boxing for a couple of years. Yeah,

I know. Do you do you think when I watched Jake and knowing him as as a person, right, I don't care about this, you know, everything else, but just knowing him as a person. So but when I see him doing some of the other stuff, do you ever think just a little bit like Jake, that's that ship is a little bit it's a little bit out there, you know, it's a little bit too much or do you say, you know what, it's part, It's part of

the sport. It is what it is. I kind of do the ladder, you know what, kind of like Jake, Jake it is the social media you know, expert. He knows how to get people, get under people's skin. He knows how to you know, create a buzz. And my I'm moral fashioned. I'm you know, I'm just like, I'm gonna stay in my lane. I'm gonna do what I gotta do. I'm gonna clock in every day and be ready. But I don't really understand all the other stuff sometimes. But I mean, whatever works for him. But uh, I

know exactly what you mean. I'm just moral fashioned. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f

s R to listen live. Yeah. No, I'm because I'm in the middle, Like I'm I got that school like me too, you know, I'm not I'm not doing on this you know bullshit out here while I'm chasing guy on doing certain But then also too, it's like, okay, the reason why Jake is in that position is because he does some of this ship and as long as I think we understand, we understand that he's backing it up. That that's most important for me watching him, is that

he's backing it up. Now people can say he didn't fight a real fighter and all other stuff been asking it was a real fighter, I mean, not a boxer, but he was a real fighter. And then it almost reminds me of you know, I got into some fights back in the day where you go up and and somebody like, oh, yeah, he can't do that to me, and then you go and you punish him and you do something to him, and then the next guy said, oh yeah, I bet he can't do that to me.

Then you go you punish him, and so it's always another guy saying he won't do that to me. Is that what you guys seeing, because I've just seen Tyrone Tyron Woodley you know, calling him out, some other guys calling he can he can get it, next to he can get it if he wants to say he can get it, no problem. So so you're you guys open Flori fight with Tyrone will Tyron Woodley has no I trust me, I respect him. He's a very very good, very good. M M. A fighter, he's excellent, he's I

was a fan of him. But he doesn't he doesn't want to. He doesn't know nothing about that ring like that. He'll go out the exact same way. I'm telling you can get it to no problem. We gotta look, we gotta list the guys that can get it. Tyron's on the very top. He wants to step up ship, he can get it too. You know, what's all due respecting I'm I'm not I'm not trash talking him at all. I'm just saying, if he wants to, it's no problem

with We're not going nowhere. So what's look? And I agree, and that's I think that's one of the ones that um that people would have actually to enjoy seeing. And then too, Tyron is is respected and what he does, and so by Jake going out and having a good performance, now you started to silence a lot of these critics. What when do you think it? What do you think of the style? Because what I what I see right now is coming from Jake's way, and I know he'd do all the other ship and it's part of what

he do. But when do you think of the style was somebody. People want to sit back and say, you know what, Okay, this dude can go. I mean if he would have, if Ben would have made it to the second or third round, then people would have seen a lot of Jake's skill set. I'm telling you these couple of little things that we do good, it's gonna knock a lot of people out. I telling you it's gonna knock a lot of people out. So once we get into a round two and three, then people will

see more of the skill set. It's gonna take him probably going two or three rounds and one of these fikes with somebody who's well respected for people actually start giving him the respect. But uh, I see it in the gym every day. I mean he does it for

six rounds. He doesn't great rounds. I'm rotating speign partners in the whole time, bringing in fresh guys, always putting him in a disadvantage to where any moment of the fight, like he he's so prepared coming into these fights, showing you have he is so overly prepared for these fights, Like Ben I told, I said it at the press comments like two weeks for the fight. I said, Ben

has no idea what he's getting in into. He has no clue and uh and by the time you know the bell rings staff person, it's gonna be too late. But I just worked so hard. I'm making sure Jake is prepared for any situation. It doesn't matter what it is. A boxer, a banger. Guy's got good condition, guys a good inside fighter, guys are good on the outside. We work everything, Bro, he's so over prepared for these fights. I put him in with a million different styles as sparing.

I don't. I didn't only try to go find guys like Ben Asking. I found everybody we had can't. We had calls out to everybody. Bro, he's sparring, bare knuckle champions, Andrew Tabatie, Jean Pascal, UFC guys, m m A, guys, people from all over the play wrestlers. I put him in with everything because that's what Raiss is boxing, I Q. That's what teach him how to deal with certain situations when he gets in the ring. Unless you've done it in sparring and you've trained for it, it's tough when

you get under those lights. So you gotta put I gotta put all these different situations in front of Jake, so he knows how to handle when he sees that style. So bro, he's just doing so good right now. Everything we ask me, it's just like there's so many names out there, like who do you think? Who do you

want to see him fight? You know? I think to me personally, Tarron Widley would be what in my in my opinion, because you got Taryn Woodley, who's a champion in in m m A. He's been, he's been around and yeah, I remember watching him in the mid two thousand when you're first coming on and just him, you know,

kind of progressing and being and whatever. Now and I think by Jay Jake having a strong outing against Woodley, um, I think it's gonna turn a lot of heads because of how respected Wholly is now been asked when people can say whatever, you know, no, I'll tell you this.

I like one thing to piss me off. I've been asking thing And I had a I had a solo podcast like a week or two ago or a few weeks ago at right after the fight is when people say the fight's rigged right, that's to me me personally that that was the the ultimate sign of like not even hate. It's like a disrespect level, Like you got a guy like been asking that is decorated what he did, right, So nobody's taking a dive. He's not trying to get

his ass whopped in front of millions of people. And then you got Jake who was put in the work to actually go and knock him out. And I don't know what m M A fighting You guys are sparring and training with before, but he called it. He's he said that Ben was going to get knocked out. I mean so when I seen that, I said, man, this this sucks. You know, you hate you hate on this kid so much that you're not willing to acknowledge that

this was a clean and brutal knockout. Everybody who Jake sparred this entire camp came out of the ring saying Jake's knocking Been out, no question about it. So it's one of those things where just like you said, man like, sometimes you gotta get in there with somebody to see it and believe it for yourself. And every single spar impartant we had coming up the fight. After the fight, they came in looking at Jake one way, they came

out with a completely different look for him. So that he gets people's respect because he does some a couple of things, you know, a couple of things very very good and uh he's he doesn't at a very high level with this distance and his spacing and his taunt and his jabs and changing levels, and it gives people a lot of problems. Man. So people come out of the ring if they spar and they're like this, this motherfucker really fight. He really can. So it is what

it is. He's still kind of new. People are like, you know, still trying to get wrapped their head around the fact that a YouTuber, you know, a Disney character third place in the Challenger Games. He setting all this funny stuff to like try to you know, bring like show like where he was before now. But it's like people a people are starting to catch on everybody that spars and comes out of the ring saying, man, this kid, this kid really fight. So you know we're hit in

the right direction. What what's the what's the altimate goal? Because I see he's um he partnered with a hit. You know, he got a hands funt thing going on. Um he got a few. I mean he's got a ton of stuff going What's what's the ultsman goal. I know, you guys mean is it for him to you know, get to econom McGregor, or is it to get to a big name boxer or whoever that may be. What's what's the ultsman goal with you guys? I think the goal?

I mean, that's that's probably a question. Really Ja could answer better than me, But um, just just making big, entertaining fights with people that you know, fight, fighters that you know, people that want to actually see him fight, whether that's Connor, whether that's Nick Diaz, whether it's Nick Diaz, whether it's guys like that. I mean, those are those are tough, tough guys. Those are credible, credible guys. I don't care you're talking about and the and the octagon,

if you're talking about the boxing wing. Those are well respected, tough guys, and those are the kind of fights I think that Jake wants eventually. Um, people talking about Tommy Fury, the nephew of Tyson Fury, who's you know four Oh. Also, I mean he's like there's a there's a lot of things. How did how did he jump in? Because he he

was talking on the behalf of of Tyson. Yeah, and so you know, I saw that Jake was, you know, making fun of as he as he do whatever, you know what, everybody, but how did how did that happen? Did he just jump in a conversation what? No, I'm not sure exactly how it happened, but it just, uh, all of a sudden, you know, he starts talking. He's got a good social media following. I guess he was on some reality show in the UK and he's well known, so you know, on paper, it kind of made sense.

You know, he's, you know, Tommy Fury's tyson Fury, the heavyweight champions little brother. I mean, come on, like these gypsies grow up a different way, man. These are some tough, tough, tough guys, very tough guys, rugged guys. The father and the uncle Peter. I mean, these guys are no bullshit guys. I mean, these guys really can teach you how to fight. So um, that's another big name too. But uh but but as far as the m M A guys like I like Nate Diaz, I like Nick Das. I like

those guys. They're tough, tough, tough kids from from California. Give him a payday and they put on a great event. A big fight, and uh, everybody wins, you know what I'm saying. So, and and Jake's ready for those guys, and and nobody in the in the in the m m A world thinks Jake is. So that's what makes it more intriguing. You know, people say, oh, no, there's

no way Jake's gonna bet Nadias or Nidias. So and but those kind of guy, that's a tough, credible guys, and those are kind of fights that you know, I like for Jake go, man, I can't wait to see it. I'm just I'm happy for Jake, man. I hope he's stayed on his path. And I'm happy for you, man, because I really did this come to me personally being

around you guys. He he needed you around him, not you know, your discipline, uh that you bring and your experience and then with his mindset and the building build because people understand when you're that big, it's hard to get through two people, man, you know, it's hard to get through. And for somebody to be as successful as he as as young and still be able to open his ears and listen, he's gonna go places, man, So big credit to you. And what y'all building over there. Um,

you know I'll be down there soon. I gotta come and see the Miami crib and check you out a lot down there anytime. Man. Well, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. And uh, like I said, just any any shedding any positive light on Jake about what he's trying to do, what he's you know, the obstacles he's got to deal with all the time, like all the ship that comes out of the media and with his training and everything. It's just like the kid's gotta full play.

He's got a lot to deal with it. He just he handles it so professionally every day and my job is just to make sure anything he needs I got back on whatever it is and more teams. So that's it. Now you're a blessing to him. Dog. Hey but cool man, I'll come down that see you soon. Bro. Appreciate you coming on. Thanks guys for listening to another lights Out podcast with me, Seawan Merriman. Uh, that's a lot of insight. Man.

It was cool for me to be there. And look, I'm I called myself between the right because you know, I have old screw mentality. You played football, you know, back in early men two men, two thousands, and football was different then. And you know, I always say it to myself. I don't want to be the old guy

and come back say oh yeah, it's soft now. So I understand the social media side, to understand the UM, the discipline of the squarter boxing and UM with great conversation with b J Force, who's Jake Paul's trainer, UM, and thank him for coming on. Thank you guys for listening in to another lighttop podcast me Sean MArmand keep subscribing, keep believing those great reviews. I try to read all of them, UM, but it's up to you. It's it's all you, guys. It's just really supporting the podcast. I

guess you. I guess you like what you're hearing. So we'll be back next week with another one, and uh, stay tuned

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