The Art of Livin’ with Matthew McConaughey

podcasting exactly. Yes, this is our last episode of this season and then we will be back shortly for season four. Or yeah, okay, wow, what if success? You guys, it's a success. Yes, four seasons, that's yes, Chelsea. What do you love about this show? Love? But oh okay, well,

why don't you start? I'll start. You know, it's really become this cool show where like people's lives are being changed, like people are making better choices, we're breaking people up, Like it's so wonderful to see people bond with like you helped me to move my life into a better direction, or you know, get that job, or you know, say no to that mother in law or whatever it is. People are really being filled with joy and also connecting because of the show it's so exciting. Yes, and it's

very nice. What Catherine does goes the extra mile above and beyond for a lot of our callers, you know, they when somebody reaches out and is interested in hearing more about a certain issue or recommendation, it's like, you really do go the extra mile to make sure people feel like, Okay, we're all in this together and we're helping people, which is so nice. Yeah, I feel the same way. I'm just so happy that people are so impact.

I can't tell you how many people come up to me talking about my podcast and saying or our podcast, i should say, saying just how their lives have changed, and that they listen every week. And it's also a really great reminder about humanity and that everybody just really needs a little push at some point in their lives. Everybody does, and that's essentially what this is is a

shove in the right. It's like a pep talk. You're getting a pep talk when you're on the fence about something or getting advice about how to handle, you know, a difficult situation in your life. And I think the more adept we become at handling difficulty, the better we

are at helping others handle difficulty. Yeah, and so many of these are universal truths, Like you know, you can hear something that might not be exactly your situation, but you're able to take a life lesson from that and bring it into your relationship or bring it into your life in a way that's really beneficial. I just think that's really wonderful. Yeah, And I like helping people. It makes me feel like I have a purpose. Even though I feel like I do have a purpose, it's nice

that this is part of my purpose. Yes. My dad always says that we're blessed to be a blessing, and when you have this sort of like overflowing wealth of knowledge or wisdom or whatever, it's really nice that you can share it. Yeah, I read. Oh. I remember we were talking about a quote a couple weeks ago on the podcast, something about being a teacher, like when you need the lesson, the teacher will show. When the student needs the lesson, the teacher will appear. When the student

has learned the lesson, the teacher will disappear. It was something along the line that line. I don't know if it was Roomy or if it was someone else, but anyway, that's a very good way to look at people coming in and out of your life. You know, sometimes it takes you a couple times to learn a lesson, and sometimes you can learn it the first time. And so my goal moving on in life is to learn things the first time, the new lessons, not to have to

do things on repeat. Yeah, because then you offer yourself up to a new experience the next time and you

don't have to repeat that. Absolutely. I used to go to this raiky lady in oswee Go, Illinois, and she had said, you know, when you get those taps on the shoulder of a lesson that you're supposed to be learning, that is you know, your guardian angels trying to help you learn the lesson, and if you don't get it, they're going to tap you a little harder, and they're gonna tap you a little harder, and then eventually it's going to be the two wife or that you know,

sort of hits the upside the hat exactly, and it's just it's sort of how life works. So I love that learning the lesson the first time, right, Well, when we're young and stupid, it's it's hard to know that you're even learning a lesson. You just feel the two by four. You're just like, why does this keep happening to me? Why does this keep happening to me? And it's like, no, it's not happening to you. You're happening to it, you know, like you're not changing the way

you're thinking about something. So yes, these are all good things to keep in mind. And I want to thank everybody for being such loyal listeners and for your calls and all of it. We just love it, and I'm down. This audience is particularly awesome. Yeah they are, they are, but that's you know what. I have to credit myself with that, because my audience has been fucking awesome my

whole career. Just badass, fucking women. Gay men, and the straight men that are on board are really on board, and they're the cool kind of straight men, so I'm down with them too. And of course, black men, I'm always done with black man. I don't know how many black straight guys are listening, but if you are, hit me up. So what's going on, Catherine? I actually just spent yesterday at Disneyland, so I am, Oh, Kurtfrede, you know what, go fuck off? I am, honestly, I am

so sick of your shit. First the Eggs and now Disneyland. I know, And I even wore my new little Mickey shirt that's acute. Were at home instead? I'm wearing it. Brad? Did you go with her? Are you an accomplice? I did? I am. Yeah, we took our nieces. That's not an excuse you guys. You can try, you can use them escapegoats, but obviously you both wanted to be there. Oh how is your niece? How's it going so good? Are you having nice conversations with her? Yeah, we're having a really

nice time. Their two nieces here, One is fourteen and one is sixteen, And all you have to do is be like, so, what's going on with your friends? And then they go off for an hour on their friend drama and yeah, great, right right? I kind of like hearing about that drama. Yes, and one of my nieces, she's a new little girl friend and she's talking all about her relationship and she's so happy and in love

and it's just it's really sweet. It's wonderful. I mean, honestly, I'm just glad they're past the phase where they only eat macaroni and cheese, because on some delicious street tacos. Yeah, they're loving street tacos here in La. What's not to love about tacos? Oh my god, it's the best. I'm so excited. So No, we're having a wonderful time with well, my lesbian sister and I she's gonna be a lesbian. When I got done with her just planned our honeymoon

portion of our vacation. I was like, we're all on this email with our Safari guide planning like our African trip because we're taking all our nieces and my ski buddy, Kelly, a different ski buddy than Lindsay. We're taking my ski buddy Kelly and her two twins. I forget their names right now, even though they're my daughters. No one is

called Jesse and the other one is called Katie. Anyway, we're all going Charlie, Seneca and Jordan, my three nieces, and my sister, Simone and Kelly and her two girls. And so we're going for two weeks. We're going to Kenya and Tanzania, and then we're Simone and I are going on a lover's week. It's just the two. She goes, I have a week off after that. Do you want to do something, and I was like, you bet, I do. So we're gonna go to Cape Town and we're gonna

go to Zanzibar a couple of nights. It's very fun and exotic, I know. And she keeps like, He's like, okay, here's a villa. I'm like, we don't need a villa for the two of us. She's like, yes, we do. Stay away from me being my wing incredible. So I'm excited. I'm gonna have a big summer of travel. So we're gonna have to We're gonna have to bank a lot

of episodes. Yes, we will do that. Okay. So our next guest is an Academy Award winning actor and a number one New York Times bestselling author of Green Lights. Matthew McConaughey, are we in lining on time? Yeah? We are. Hi, Matthew. Hello, how are you? Chelsea? I'm great? How are you doing? This is my co host, Catherine. Hi, how are you? I'm pretty good? Good? Great, great, Matthew. I am in a state of being blown away because I read your book in the last twenty four hours. I'll be honest.

I got it months ago and everybody was talking about it, and just like you describe in the book when you were accusing somebody of not being interested in something, because it was a success, it was popular, everyone was talking about it, and I was like, oh, fuck it, I'll read this later. And I read this yesterday in a day. It is so fucking impressive. I am so blown away by the depth of your humanity, about the depth of

your soul searching. It's so a nice for a woman to be able to read a man who speaks and thinks the way that you do. We need more of that, absolutely, and the fact that you are just so in touch with yourself is really remarkable. Wow. Cool, Thank you. That feels good to hear that. Thank you. I bet yeah. The success of your book must have been a huge boon to you to get all of this out on paper. I mean, how did it feel to get that kind

of feedback and that kind of reaction from everybody. Well, you know, you put something and you don't know if it's going to stick or not. And I remember when I started writing it, I was actually found myself writing to try and impress you are an audience, right, And then all of a sudden, after a couple weeks, I was like, that's not the way I gotta do it. Make it this personal for me is possible, and hopefully make it as entertaining as well, and then if it sticks,

it sticks, And I got lucky. It hit a nerve with some people. So the reactions that I've found in travels and emails I've gotten from around the world to say, hey, I saw myself in your stories. Hey, I'm taking more risk to do things in my life that I was afraid to take before. Hey, I'm gonna laugh this time when I step and ship instead of thinking, oh my god,

it's a crisis. I want to come across some cautions in life and I'm gonna blow through them when I should not give a CHRISTI so much credit, or I'm going to slow down and take a little inventory just to hear the feedback. It was. You know, when you when you put something out, you have in your mind what you hope a reaction will be, and if someone says that, you don't say it out loud, but if someone says that back to you, you're like, yes, that's

what I was hoping. And I got a lot of that from the book, and that that felt really cool. I mean, the writing of it for me was I'm not a guy who looks in the past. I like to go forward and hey, what's in the background, what's behind in the review mirrors, in the review mirror, So to go back and look at who I was and now I got here. It was fucking embarrassing. I was. I had a lot of shame. I was like, oh my god, I can't believe you did that, this, that

and the other. But after a few weeks writing, I started to laugh at that ship and started to gigging on. Was like going, well, no, shit, man, you know he's perfect. Yeah, you're screwed up. Put that one in there too, put that story in there. And that turned out to be some of people's favorite stuff is when I'm writing about

me stepping and ship, me and Crow. You know, yeah, because I think it's very, very attractive when people are able to not take themselves so seriously, especially in our industry, because it's it's a byproduct, right, you have to take yourself seriously at times if you want to get serious about working, or you want to get serious about accomplishing whatever your goals may be, So to take yourself seriously and also at the same time not take yourself seriously

enough that you can't expose the shortcomings or the embarrassments or the self recrimination. Yeah yeah, I like to call that. Hey, I think we should take it all seriously, especially the comedy, especially the screw ups. Take them seriously, do and just own them and go, yeah, I take that, you know, the comedy of my own life seriously. Do. So let's put that up. I take the times when I eat crow or follow my ass pretty seriously do, and let's

just put that out there as well. It was it. Look, it was you've written, you put something down on a page, and you're directing, you're writing, you're the main character. It's cleansing, I mean, you kind of. It clears up a lot of things. I found out that I remembered a lot more than I gave myself credit for. Meaning. I saw things that I wrote down when I was fifteen, twenty twenty five and was going like, oh, you're essentially the same guy, the same person. You've evolved, I believe, I

hope so McConaughey, but you're essentially the same person. Oh you do remember that. Even though I always like to see this, I write things down so I can forget them so they'll be there. You never do that at the dinner table, and I know when I'll pull out my phone and I always have to go, hey, I'm not writing somebody else that's not here. I'm actually writing a note of something you just said. And then I'll show it to you and to go, Chelsea, did you

say that? And you're like, yeah, I did. I'm writing that down so I can forget it and be present in the situation again, because if I don't write it down, I'm gonna be thinking the whole dinner. Don't forget that thing, she said. Don't forget that thing, she shaid. And so there was a lot of freedom for me in writing the damn thing and putting it out there. Matthew, are you sitting in front of two flags right now? Yes, we have an American flag and a Texas flag. I

love it country, I love it well. You were supposed to become the governor of Texas at some point, right all this is supposed to become. I considered considered getting in that run and then decided no, not for you, No, no, no, I don't think that's where I can be most useful. Right now, I'm having too good. At a time, I got three kids fourteen, thirteen, ten and the adventures were going on. I'm not going to get them again. And right now I'm enjoying being a dad, family man. Everyone

says it, but it's true. I got seven more years and then they're out on their own, hopefully. And then everyone says, get what you can while that weather in the house, because it doesn't come back. You don't get the time again. Yeah. Well, one of the things that you talk about very emphatically in your book is becoming a father. That was one of the one thing you knew about yourself, you say, is that you knew you

wanted to be a father. And that's also a very nice thing to hear a man say, to be that passionate about it. And when you talk about your family, it feels like, you know, we have our first nature, our personality that we're born with, and then we have our second nature, our experiences and the people who raise us and your family sounds a fucking fun and be like you'll never get away from them for your life. You are part of that ecosystem. Yeah, and that had

had such such a huge influence on you. Your father, your values, your morals, your mother, everything that you've been through, and now as a parent, to try and redistribute that right, that wealth of knowledge, but in a better way. I'm assuming, right, you think you can do almost a better job trying. How is that going for you? I'm happy that I think it's going pretty well. Not making straight a's, but I think it's going pretty well. I've got some considerate children.

Hopefully they can get out of the house confident, having an idea of who the hell they are and who they're not. Hopefully they can be conscientious. We'd i'd like to talk about being a renaissance man or renaissance woman to my daughter, but hey, you know, surfing them morning, conduct the the orchestra at night, be able to go from shirtless and no shoes in the mud to a to a tuxedo on the same day and feel at

home in both those places. We're filling their passports, which, as you know, I think is one of one of the best resumes someone can have. You see a full passport, you've got a pretty good idea that that person has some wisdom of how the world works and how humanity rolls. You know, we got, like I said, fourteen thirteen, ten, we're just getting into those teen years. That's a whole new roller coaster. You know, more rhyme, no less reason.

And then when you have kids, I noticed or early on, that it's more DNA than I thought, meaning I thought it was before I had kids. I thought it was more the second thing environment, culture, what you're raised around. And I noticed early on that, oh, these these these young people are who they are. I can shepherd them, I can nudge them, I can put in front of them what lights their fire and try to keep them from hurting themselves too bad. But other than that, they

are who they are. And so I've had to you know, I use this line when it comes to discipline in the family. I'm gonna treat you all fairly, but I'm not gonna treat you all the same. And it's a pretty fun one. We have a good time with the

fourteen and thirteen. I'm getting to that age where I'm starting to become their buddy a little bit, which is cool, meaning like my daughter a callmeo're and go, hey, why I want to talk to you about this thing, and we can just talk where I'm not teaching, I'm not talking as the parent, we're just jiving where my son can go flipped on like an NPR the other day and didn't want to listen to music, want to listen to I'm at fourteen. I'm like, God, and what do

you get out of this? This this talk? He's listening to podcast and stuff. I'm going, okay, okay. So I'm becoming buddies with the older two right now, which is nice. Yeah. I think that's the thing that's always has scared me about parenting is having to be a teacher for so long. That always has been like, oh God, so many questions that I probably don't have the accurate answers too well. And the other thing is you get that thing that

happens as parents is they'll ask you that question. Like, for instance, I got one of the book where my eldest son comes to me and goes, why is before Camilla and I were married? He comes to being goes, why is it? Mama? On McConaughey, Well, those are those questions where as a parent, you go, I better have a fucking good answer for this because what I say right now is going to be branded in their mind.

Or they ask you a big world question and you go as a parent, and you may be tired, you may have had a couple of drinks, it's late at night, and you go like, whoops, I better have a good answer for this one, because what I say right now they're going to remember forever. Oh and a good answer. Well, the good parenting is actually going and finding that answer, which resulted in you marrying your wife, right, because how'd

he not posited that question to you? Who knows when you guys would have gotten married if maybe ever or not ever might have sat there and day and neutral and not set a date. But that did give me a kick in the backside to go, you know what, everything's going great right now, but let's couldn't take this to another level and started start a new commitment and adventure together. Yeah, okay, Well, with this book has led to a very unexpected event, probably unexpected for you two

to a certain degree. You're doing a live event with Tony Robbins and some other people, Tony Robbins being probably the most notable one. And it's called the Art of Living. So let's talk about it. What are you gonna be on the end? Because life's a verb, that's right, Yeah, that's how we say it now not living. Yeah, So that Tony and Dean read the book like the approach and came to me and said, look, it's a great

approach book. Do you want to dig deeper and maybe make it more show the process so people can more personally may have some transformation. And I was like, I'd love to And they're great at that. So that's what

we're gonna do. On April twenty fourth. We're gonna go live the two of them, myself, Trent Shelton, Mary for Lele, and we're gonna get under the hood of green lights to how share how you can if anyone out there can make it personal to their lives, how they can we can understand if we're at a green light, our highway of life, you know, when things are rolling and we can't do no wrong, how do we trust that green light that it's one that's gonna that that's one

that's gonna last longer and feed us for longer. What do we do it a yellow light? Those pauses in life where we're like, I gotta I gotta hit him, my giddy up a little bit, I gotta reconsider. What do we do? We do we pause and have a look over our shoulder and go, I'm gonna have a look for the first time. Why I keep stepping in that same pile of shit? Or do we say no,

I'm gonna blow this. I'm gonna put the pedal to the metal and blow this yellow light life because I'm not gonna give the crisis credit because what comes after the yell ight the red light, and that's the big crisis is like pain, loss, Things suck, They feel like that ends. I have learned, and I think it's true for everybody that there is a gift in those red lights. I'm sure y'all getting in times your life for like there is nothing I can get this is this just sucks.

There's no lesson in this when you're in it, and then later on go, oh I did get something from that red light. Oh there was a gift in that. So we're gonna get under the hood of all that to make that practical for people to go, how do I assess my green, yellow, and reds in life? We're going to talk about defining more. You know, you hear it all the time people, I want more, I want more, but we kind of we we forget to say more. What you know, it's like we want to be relevant,

relevant for what define our more. First admits some truths, admit some lives that we that we tell, and we believe in our lives, so we can kind of be more ourselves. Which you've done a really great job of that, Chelsea. I mean you've gone and said it seems from the outside that you've done a really good job of being yourself.

So by hook or by crook, whether what you put out considered works or doesn't is seen or sales or doesn't, it doesn't seem like you've been someone who's like, well, I sold out and I took a chance and I was somebody I wasn't And that always feels better, I know for me, and I think it does for everybody. If you can do something authentically as you're self, if it works out, hell yeah great. But if it doesn't, you don't feel like like you settled out to try

and sell something on ourselves. So we're going to talk about all those kind of things and try to make them practical transformation for people. Yeah, I related to so much of everything that you wrote in the book because you have honored yourself in so many different ways in

your career. And your personal life with your relationship with your family, and that honor or, that kind of self value, self honor, self respect and respect for others, because I don't really think you can respect other people until you truly respect yourself, right, And I think that the way that you've demonstrate in the book, like the times were like, as one example, just walking away from romantic comedies, which was a fruitful and money and everything that you could

ask for that would make a regular person, would make them think that they could be happy and exist on that for the rest of their life, eating popcorn and not desiring anything beyond that popcorn. And you said no, and you were offered lots of money, and you still said no, I'm not doing that anymore. I'm not doing that.

And you waited and you waited. And I think the key ingredient for so many people who want to take risks, who don't think they have the courage or the balls or whatever you want to call it, is because it's just patience, you know, it's really it takes balls, but it takes patience and knowing that you have to trust yourself, knowing that you are the person that you can trust. Yeah, can you believe in those times that time is actually

on your side. WHOA, it's tough, yes, man. And then we make these plans and then you have babies that you have to support and they're going Or I have a friend who's like to get it planned out. At thirty I'm going to meet the woman for me. At thirty five, I'll be married and have kids. At forty, they'll be here thirty. He didn't meet the girl thirty five, he didn't have the family. He's started getting anxious, you know. I write about it in the book. Before I met Camilla,

I was on the hunt. I was looking for the possibility of my mate at every red light, in every produce section, there's an angle maybe. And I was trying. I was not being myself. I was not content with myself to be patient. And then once I became that man and sat back and trusted and was patient that, hey, I don't have to keep looking I find it. If I quit looking so hard, well, that's when she showed up. I mean, with the career that two years that I took off, I got wobbley. I like to say it.

That old bottle of my favorite spirit over there on the counter. I started looking a little bit better. Earlier in the day, I was like, I would like a purpose. I didn't have significance. I was like, what am I doing. I considered other vocations, like maybe maybe I wrote a one way ticket out of Hollywood. I gotta find another job, another career, and I hung in there. Luckily I had Camilla by my side, sitting are going like, this is non negotiable. We made this choice, and we know it's

true to your soul, so we're not going back. And there was never a choice of going back, but it was. It was spooky. And then all of a sudden that patience paid off. All of a sudden, I was gone from Hollywood enough to become a new good idea for the JOm as I wanted to do, and the phone rang for that, and all of a sudden went and did all the things that I'd been wanting to do that that the Hollywood was not offering me years before. Yeah,

we got the reconnaissance. Yeah, the reconnaissance. That's great. Is that a term? Oh? No, I wish I had People magazine or something. I would tell you the story about that. No, tell us, get this out. He jeez. It was some self marketing. So I'm gonna tell you ride. And I think I was there with a movie. I had done Mud and something else, and uh, the guy in this interview was going, I mean you're you're like, oh, really,

you're on a roll right now. Man, you did this and this this, it's like it needs a name or something. I went, yeah, you know, I was talking to this guy a minute ago and he actually called it the macconnaiss. I threw it out there right and he goes, Manassan, I love that. You like that. I go, yeah, it sounds good, man. So I snuck it. Then some abish it didn't stick. I made that up in one interview, and it stuck. It gave it a little a little song title, a little album. I like the idea of

coining a phrase about yourself. I like that a lot. I'm also like, most people can't give themselves a nickname, but now you deserve beyond stuck. Get I got the I got the wink. Yeah, I love it. Okay, Well, Matthew, first let me ask you something before we start with our callers. Have you been to therapy? No? Wow, I have not been to therapy. I got nothing against therapy, you know, I was writing about this yesterday. So we go to therapy, and again I got nothing against it.

I've seen it really work for people, and I might want to go and need to go later in my life. But we go to therapy, and we learned to get objective about ourselves, right. We go to therapy and we learned to see, like, hey, or who we think we are, what we're actually putting out is what we're putting out there? Is that what the world's receiving or is there a big gap between those? You know what I mean? Are we living a life where the rubber meets the road.

And it's great because you get an objective sort of third eye, a Google eye to the world of what we're doing. But I do think we have to watch with too much objectivity of awareness of like, well, how is what we're doing landing? Well, how is it being is it being received? We have to watch because it's good if it leads us back to being more subjective.

Meaning what's great is when you just you're you're not even being objective of all, You're just being the subject in your life and you're just doing it and it happens to be reciprocating that's green lights in life. You know, that's great when it rolls that way and we all need to hop back and go, hey, let's be considerate and have a little check out context to the situation.

That's that awareness of objectivity. But I do think we have to watch the rabbit hole of going and trying to be too objective for too long that we forget to be the subjects in our life. So if therapy leads us back to being a better subject, a better a better individual without being sort of eating conscious of what we're doing or what we're what we're doing, how

it's landing, I think it's I think it's very helpful. Yeah, I hear what you're saying, because when you have too much self awareness, it's almost like you're not even in the moment because you're analyzing everything you're doing and how it's being perceived by others. That's definitely a struggle I had coming out of therapy. I'm like, fuck, I mean, when am I going to be able to go back to me instead of making sure I'm making sure everyone's okay around my behavior? It can just be paralysis of

analysis almost. It can immobilize us, you know, I mean look, I got a mother who ninety one, and she's a great example of the value of denial if you actually commit to it, okay, if you really commit to it. And look, she's not shallow. She's not a yellow person. But I asked her about four years ago because she's wild ass, rebel, outlaw, and she was doing all these things that were the opposite of what she had raised

me and my two brothers to do. We're like, I was like, mom, come on, no one forgives you themselves quicker than you. I was like, don't you have anything at the end of the night, we like you go, oh, I need to do that better. I need to work on that. And she was like, oh, honey. Every night I go through a mental list twenty five things, the things that I could do better, things that I want to improve on. I go, ah, okay, good, she goes,

you know, Matthew. But the thing is, when I wake up in the morning, I forgot him all And she just rolls like that. And like I said, she's not shallow, but she's there's a beauty in her inconsideration. What bruises others tickles her, and she is proof that there's a loophole in the Golden rule doing others you'd haven'm doing to you. Well, not everyone wants to do what you want to do, but she just ninety one. She just rolls, and she's been doing that kind of all her life.

And it's pretty awesome to see that simplicity because she's not objective at all. She takes no context. She has a lack of consideration, and it could be a real pain in the ass sometimes, but ninety percent of the time, it's like, go girl, no, get it, keep doing what you're doing. Yeah, she's a real renegade, as your father was as well. Yeah. Yeah, Okay, So on not note. We are going to Catherine. You're going to teach up what we have in store for Matthew today. Absolutely, we've

got some crises of conscience in here. We've got some confidence issues, some what am I doing next in my life? Okay, So we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back, and we're back. We're bad. Well. Our first question comes from Sage. Sage says, Dear Chelsea, I am desperate for your help. I feel like I've been stuck in this identity crisis for years. I've lost sight of not only who I am, but what's important to me. I feel like I spend every day going through the motions, then

all of a sudden years have passed. I came to the realization the other day that I don't actually enjoy my life. I just get through the days. I feel like I'm waiting for that light bulb moment or some type of epiphany to wake me up. But I also understand that's not realistic. How do I start enjoying life again, liking who I am, not caring what others think, taking chances, and living a life of happiness and purpose. I suppose

I don't even know where to start. I'm twenty seven now, and I know that I'm wasting my youth being lost, and I don't want any more excuses. I'm ready to live a life I'm proud of and that's true to me. But how do I figure out what that is? Thanks an advanced stage. I'm gonna let Matthew take this from the top because he seems to be on a real role,

and then I'll follow up after. I just want to say everyone feels like this at some point in their life, if not multiple times in their life, so just know, ay that this is not uncommon and you are not alone. Matthew, why don't you go first? Well, thanks for saying that first, Chelsea, because that is such we bypass that as far as helping somebody out by going hey, just to know it's not a singular experience. Just to know that, oh, hey, me too, helps so much sort of just flattens the

everything and takes the air out of the pressure. So way to start that office saying hey, you're not alone. Look, I'd say this a lot of this. We all want to talk about who am I, what's my purpose? What am I going to do? And we're trying to look for that first. Don't look for that first, start with something much easier. Because knowing who you are is fucking hard. Knowing who you're not is easier. So start off with

the process of elimination. Start eliminating the things in your life, stags that don't pay you back, the people, the places, the things that you're doing. What did you eat, drink, whatever your habits that you know what. They may feel good at the moment, but the next day they kind of give you a hangover, or they didn't pay you back.

You were in the debit section the next day, or you felt like less after you left that group of friends that maybe talked about certain things that well, maybe we're funny at the time, it made you feel like a heel when you left. Start eliminating those things. So by process of elimination, when we get rid of the things in our life that don't pay us back, that don't feed more of who we are by sheer mathematics, you end up with more room for the things that

will feed you and we'll pay you back. Line up in front of you. So start with eliminating who you're not to get to who you are. Yeah, I like

that a lot. I also would like to say, you know, when you're having all these kinds of feelings that aren't giving you positive vibes, right, the important thing, I think the first thing that you need to do is learn how to get really still and get really quiet so that you can understand exactly what your desires are and what and how you want to You know what makes you excited, what gets your heart rate up, what gives you excitement When you think about fashion, or do you

think about television, or you think about like what is your retail whatever it is, there's no judgment on it. It's whatever your desire is, what draws your attention, what keeps you interested, what helps you stay focused when you're on that subject matter, Like, those are the things that you need to find out about yourself, and the way to do that is to really kind of go within.

You have to be still with yourself. You have to give yourself like space and time to be quiet, to not have noise around you, to not have influence around you, to really sit down with a book, sit down by yourself, sit down to reflect, to meditate, however you want to frame that. But it's about the inner desires because your

body will speak to you. You will speak to yourself when you've given the time to do that, Like it's a matter of self respect in a way, you're allowing your body and your mind to tell you what they want.

And this is all going to sound very spiritual and big worldy to you if you haven't done this yet, But I promise you, if you make this a practice of just trying to get in touch with yourself, there will be a voice inside your head that is on your team, that is going to direct you and tell you, just like there's always a voice telling you that you're not good enough, that you're not smart enough, that you're

not brave enough. There's a voice, your real voice, that is centered, that will guide you, and you have to trust that that intuition, that self, knowing it's there for each one of us. And the only times we get separated from that voice is when we're not focused and we're not centered. And it's easy to disengage, but it's it's easy also to get back on the track. You know, it's not It doesn't take that as much as you think it's going to take. And obviously I can't tell

you what your purpose is. You're going to have to find out what your purpose is for yourself. But the more time you spend with yourself with less noise around you, the more in tune you're going to get with yourself and you're going to understand what you need to do to move the ball forward in a direction that's going

to make you excited about your life. And also understand that you're not always going to be excited about your life, but you want to be optimistic about your life, and you want to be you know, challenging yourself and going to new areas and doing things that scare you or that you can't and taking risks. You know, all of these things are part of the equation. So I would start by doing that. You know, if it's a meditation,

then make it a meditation. But give yourself some time each morning or each day whenever you can, twenty minutes and just be still and sit in a garden or buy trees in nature and just sit with yourself, and you're gonna come up with more answers than you would ever even believe that twenty minutes if you hadn't done it. It feels like hours when you first start. But don't pull a parachute. Don't back out. What Chelsea's saying is right.

Stick with it. It gets easier and easier. But when you first do it, you will not like the company. Every time I go off on one, I do not like the company. I cannot stand the dialogue that's going on mad, But be stick with it through that time. What do you end up realize? You realize that you're the best company and you're the only company that can't get rid of them. So we've been trying to freaking it alone. Yeah, yeah, totally so fun. It's so true,

it's so fucking true. I mean, I can't tell you how noisy my life was for so long until I did this and I hated the company. I was like, you're so annoying this this, and then I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. I only want to hang out with you, like you're the best company. You know, even when I go skiing. Now, I'm like, I try not to let my friends know. Like when I'm in my skis, I try not to let my friends know because I want at least a few runs by myself. And they can never understand why

I want to ski alone. I'm like, because it's fucking more fun to be by myself sometimes than to be around other people. So anyway, start doing that stage stage right. Yes, yes, keep in touch with us and connect with us. And when you've had a little bit of an awakening, I guarantee you it's coming. Just have faith in the knowledge of yourself and just start practicing some alone time and real thoughtfulness, and I promise you you're gonna get where

you want to go. Yeah. Absolutely, Like this is what happens at times in your life, but especially when you're twenty seven. Like twenty seven, everybody feels this way, because you're in this like crucks between the young adulthood that you've just been in and like adult adulthood, and it's just a weird flection point where you feel so much change.

And I think all the sevens are like that. Twenty seven, thirty seven, forty seven, there's something about and I think in Judaism, yeah, seven is a number where pivotal things happen. So it's all good run towards it. It's all good exciting because new things are going to happen. Yep. Well, our next question comes from Sean. Sean says, dear Chelsea. I'm a thirty seven year old flight attendant from Kansas City, Missouri. It goes without saying that I am, of course gay.

I've been a flight attendant for five years and people always say, oh, what a dream job, or that's what you were meant to do. I enjoy the perks of my job, but have you met people? I have to deal with almost three hundred of them for eight hours inside in a loop. Can no one dreams about that? Sure, being in Paris or Amsterdam weekly is great, but I know this is not viable for the long term. I've thought about taking flight lessons to become a pilot, but

that still feels like settling. Several years ago, some friends who did stand up informed me that I was funny. I legitimately had no idea due to my penchant for thinking I have no valuable skills. They asked me to do a little set at their show and I agreed. Well, I killed it. I felt like I was in the right place for the first time, they laughed when they were supposed to. They clapped. It was amazing. I did it again, and I didn't do as well, but still

pretty good. Now It's been years since I've done it. Because I'm so scared of being disliked, I would be stuck doing open mic nights in Kansas City. I'm scared of not only doing poorly, but I'm also nervous about the rednecks hating me just because I'm gay. Plus I'm burnt out, so I just don't feel funny or creative. How do I move through the stress and bullshit to get back to a place where I can be funny

and confident. I know I'm still young, but I would hate to look back on my life and regret never doing anything that was actually difficult I just finished your special Revolution, available now on Netflix, and it just solidified that I want to do what you do, Chelsea. I want to make people laugh and find a way to find humor in this craziness. Thank you for being you, and I promise you really are changing the world. Sean Hi, Sean hi Hi. Our special guest today is Matthew mccataughey.

What a tree. Oh my gosh, Hi, Bucky am I I know, I know. Look how cute you look too? How are you? My god? Thank you so much? Get this gorgeous hair. I'm great. How are you guys? Yeah, I'm great. You've met Catherine obviously, this is I'm my co host. Well, it's nice to meet you. You too,

Thank you. I'm gonna go first, Matthew. Okay, I'm gonna just since this is a stand up comedy question and you just watched my special, and I've felt like you before at different times in my life where I'd had no creativity, I didn't know if I was funny, I didn't care, I didn't want to work, blah blah blah. I understand where you're feeling. You have to understand a how lucky and fortunate you are to know what lights you up. That's what every person is looking for. Our

last caller was trying to find that light. You know what lights you up, you know what makes you feel something that you really want to feel in this life. And that's the biggest thing, you know what I mean? You know that now you just have to walk that avenue to get where you're going. And that's easier than you ever thought it was. Yes, you're gonna bomb, You're gonna do badly. People aren't going to always like you.

That's not the point. The point isn't to get everybody to like you or to succeed all the time, because there's no growth or learning in either of those things. That's just a cherry, you know, like that's oh great, I have that moment. It also doesn't last forever. The idea is to get really just better incrementally at something, And in order to get better at something and to make a career out of it, you need to fucking

start doing it. So you have to start performing. It doesn't matter if there are rednecks, it doesn't matter if there are people that don't like gay people. It doesn't matter. You know, that's even a better challenge to get the people that won't necessarily be it's predisposed to liking you to like you, you know what I mean, You're going to be surprised. A lot of those people are going to like you, and you're not going to believe it. But in order to do that, you just have to

start the action. And you're a flight attendant. It's a great way to practice material on people. You have new people revolving through your door or your aluminum can, as you say, which is a very apt description. I don't know how the fuck you guys do that. But you have an audience to play with at all times, so you can be practicing your material at all times. Like you have all these advantages. I think that you're looking at as disadvantages and they're not right. That makes sense, Sean.

Where Chelsea's saying you've got an audience on that aluminum can, sounds like you also have a huge source of your particular comedy. I mean you're opening question. You know, I'm attendant, I'm on alumini canists or three hundred people instead of steel can and without saying it, yes, I'm gay. That's already so I was already laughing at that, just your delivery of how you wrote the question, those three hundred people, the different idiosyncrasies or the ship they do. But she's like,

are you kidding me? That sounds like great material where you're getting new material with every flight, right, So it sounds like maybe just keep an ear open for every one of those things. When you get annoyed at somebody in seventeen a clockett, Oh that's gonna be a good joke. Oh that's gonna be a good turn of phrase. Oh that's I'm gonna use that every time you get annoyed at somebody, look at him. Go how could that be funny?

Or how could that that actually could be funny if I'm telling someone else because someone's gonna go, no shit, I know people do that. They're gonna go. I didn't know people do that really? Oh shit. I'm like, you've got great source material in all thirty having many rows of people, those three hundred people are sitting in. That makes sense, Matthew. Do you also have some advice on like how Sean can reclaim that confidence that he felt the first time he performed? How do you reclaim a

look some of it. I'm gonna go back to what I was talking about my mom with being a queen of denial. A lot of it is. Look, I've I've had thousands of days at work where I'm not confident and I'm like, I'm just gonna blow through it. I'm gonna make sure one and I have to convince myself that eighty percent of me doing the job can showing up and is getting there. And I've had some of my better performances when I was not confident walking the Rangers. That's going, man, I am and then found it in

the performance. But showing up and going and doing record and what Chelsea was saying, you're gonna bomb huh huh, no shit, you know you're gonna have lines of man. When I rehearsed that, it was I was right on the money. Everybody and I and I and I and I waited too long or or I got I got excited and I blew through the pause that set up the punchline. So what do it the next time? But it's just I think getting back out there and doing

it and doing it the next time. I'm doing it the next time and by practice, when I find you build confidence when you start to get a little better at something you know, or when you start to feel a lot of people say I don't like what I'm doing, you can start to dig it by just purely getting better at something. It's fun to get better at something, to improve and become more competent at something you know.

It's also fun to flip the script of your attitude towards it, Like your nervousness can be excitement, you know what I mean. You can be like, oh, this is great. My very first jokes were about waiting tables. When I started doing stand up because I was I got a d Y. I had to go to d Y class where they made everybody get up and give a speech about their dui. And I was so scared shitless of public speaking that I would hide in the back of

the class, hoping this guy wouldn't call on me. And when he did, I got up and told my dy story. I was twenty one years old and the whole place was dying laughing, and I didn't get off stage. I was like, oh, this is fun. And then the dui guy came up. He's like, hey, listen, this isn't stand up, Like this isn't as a comedy club. Get off the stage. And everyone was like, you got to be a stand up comedian. And I was like, oh, that sounds scary, and I was like, but I guess I have to.

I had what are my other options? I mean, what was I going to do? I didn't know. I just thought I had to be a public person. So I my whole material was like people asking me what the specials were and me actually saying what I wanted to say to people, you know, like, as if you're going to even remember this fucking meal in seven days, who gives a shit what the specials are? Figure something out?

You know, my ass in your face is the special. Like, I just had a whole slew of material about waiting tables. You can do exactly the same thing that Matthew said to start and launch your creativity, and you're going to naturally move and flow and ebb and flow and all the things and bomb and succeed. You're going to have it all, but go into it knowing that it's a full breadth experience and don't expect everything to just go well. That's not the way we grow, right. I think that's

what's scary is than not doing well. It's I think because the first time I did stand up, they introduced me and the crowd was applauding, and I got up on stage and the very first thing I said was I kind of expected that to last a little bit longer, and they like started applauding again, and I was just like, oh shit, they like they're doing what they tell them to do, and so it's like this high and I'm like, I don't want to like, what if I would have

said that? And then they were just like, yeah, well it's not gonna last long, right, Yeah, But what if? Because there's there's so many millions of other people that have your desire and are doing it, do you know what I mean? Maybe not millions, but thousands definitely that are doing you. Yes. How much? How much of stand

up is entertaining yourself? A lot? A lot? I mean, when you think that joke's funny by hook or by crook, f then the crowd, if they laugh or not a lot of times it becomes funnier to them because you enjoyed that joke. You think it's funny, right, Yeah, for sure, it's hard to if you don't get the reaction, it's hard to relax and go yes nobody, Yeah, clap from a center. Whatever that is. You know, I mean, how

much is a lot of it is entertaining yourself. Well, a lot of it's entertaining yourself, but it's also a practice of like I tell stories all the time in my personal life, and when I see that they get a big reaction, I'm like, oh, that's a story for the stage. If you know, my stand up is very personal. Your stand up may be very joke oriented, but I think anything that comes from your personal truth is valuable to creativity. You don't want to pretend you're someone you're

not you. Obviously, being a stand up relies on the audience laughing at some point. You know that is part of it. So yes, you want to get there. But you know, Matthew and I discuss this a little bit earlier. We touched on not taking yourself too seriously. You want to take everything seriously. But any moment like that is not a life altering changing moment in a negative way. It can always be a life altering changing moment in

a positive way. But a moment on stage is just never going to crush you the way that you are fearing like your you're letting you yourself be led by fear. Instead, you got to be like bring it on, Like, let's bring it on. Let's get the scary parts over with. Like the sooner you get on stage, and the more you get on stage, the quicker all of that stuff is going to be out the back door. So like

get moving. Yeah that makes sense, you know what I mean? Like, is there somewhere you can go do a set, like a stand up comedy club where you live? Yeah, there's a ton of places here in Kansas City that have like there's like open nights and stuff. Yeah, yeah, do it. Just start doing it. Makes you make us a commitment that you're going to do it. What this week? Next week? When can you get on stage? Yeah? I can, I can do next week? All right, make that commitment to

us and yourself and go do it. Okay. I may tell you one thing that my mentor Pinealem, my greatest mentor this this woman of nineteen years told me, and it was so liberating. Where I go every day every job and then every every morning work. But I tell myself, I tell myself, can I I dare you to screw up golf? I dare you to screw up? Dare yourself

to screw up. Watch how I found that I screwed up less when I dared myself to screw up, I dare you to eat shit here, it just kind of like popped the bubble and all so much pressure is off. I'll give myself right there, So try and screw up there you Okay? I like that. Yeah, even if it goes badly, it's five minutes in the beginning, so it doesn't matter. Then. It's just the only thing that matters is you making the step in the right direction of what's going to really fill your soul up. And it

sounds like you know what that is. Look at that as a gift instead of a negative, and just run towards it, you know. And anytime you have a bad set, that's like great, because if when you have a bad set, the next one's always the best one. I speak from experience. Yeah, okay, thanks for calling shot break a leg I mean sorry, Yeah, thank you so much. We have one other caller. Her name is Carrie, a friend of about sixteen years has recently professed his love for me. I've known he's had

a crush on me for a long time. He always tells me I'm his type with his recent admission of being in love with me, I thought, sure, why not, let's try it. I warned him that he's setting himself up to get hurt and that I may never get the feelings for him he has for me, but he wants to try anyway. I told him I can't just flip a switch from friendship to relationship, so I asked him to court me, and he's been trying really hard.

The trouble is he's not my type. I don't really have a strong physical attraction toward him, but the person he is and the time we spend together I love. I'm a bit of a disaster with dating and have been single most of my life. I'm forty eight. My longest relationship of three and a half years, was with a woman. Though I don't identify as a lesbian, it just felt right at the time. I don't know what it is with men. I just seem to find fault in all of them and end up breaking up with them.

So Carrie told me that they dated for about a month and she finally kissed him or they and she got the ick and didn't want to continue. But I think the bigger issue that came out of the conversation is that Carrie's having trouble finding chemistry in general with other people that she's dating. So I thought we could explore that, explore what's wrong with the vibes and what's going on there. Okay, yeah, Hi Carrie. Hi, Hi there, This is Matthew McCarney. He's our special guest today. Hi. Hi,

nice to meet you. Hire. You know Catherine. Obviously you guys have spoken. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So yeah, so she told you that it went sideways. Well you had a kiss, right, that was it? Yeah? So we dated for almost six weeks. We tried the dating thing, and he was doing because I asked him. I told him he has to court me because you know, I'm not just going to date him for no reason. And yeah,

he finally asked me on Valentine's can we kiss? And I said sure, and honestly, it was like kissing a family member. Okay, Well, let's go back. You said that you have problems with intimacy with men, right, is that what you said? Is it men or you don't have problems like that with women? Well, it's not so much with all men. I'm kind of more of the I like the wine, not the label kind of thing that said.

I've dated more, way more men than women, So I think with men it's just I do have some trust issues with men, so it is harder for me to get closer to them. I also find men over forty extremely needy, and that is like one of my least like I just it's so unattractive to me, so that part is hard as well. Well. I think if you have self admittingly that you have a lot of guardrails up,

it's very hard to break those down. And I think that should be your number one objective right now, because I don't think you can probably clearly even kiss this guy while you're looking for excuses to not like him, you know what I mean. And I had the last guy I dated, I was friends with for fifteen years and was never attracted to him, And it took a long time and I did. I fell in love with him,

I became attracted to him. I was couldn't even believe it, you know, I said, there's no way, there's no way, and then it happened. So I don't think it kisses definitively the end or the beginning of anything. I think that you have some work to do about being open and not every guy is that needy, Not every guy is anything. Look at Matthew McConaughey. He's sitting here. He just wrote this book. Well he didn't just write this book, but he wrote a book that you should read called

green Lights. I read it. Oh oh great, all right, so then you know about green lights? Yellow lights exactly, exactly, yeah, yellow light right now, yeah, exactly. It's nice to hear that, you know, because I know with you and Joe you were friends for a long time and then so how long did it take for you be able to be able to look at him that way? Well, it's funny you say that because in therapy, when I was wrapping up therapy because I needed a break, I said, am

I supposed to be in a relationship? I just don't feel like the relationship type like that. It's not I've never been boy crazy, you know. I don't go god, you know, like when I'm single, I like it. I'm not trying always to find a guy. And I just thought, maybe something's off with me. And he said, you have

too many barriers up. You just have roadblocks all around you, he said, and you have to strip those away until you're going to see somebody for who they are, not what they represent, you know, not the fact that he's wearing Prada jumpsuits that make me sick, or if we're driving around in Ferraris that makes me cringe. Just I had to get past all of my bullshit and finally just see him for who he was, which is a real person, you know, and those things don't define a person.

And I understand if you don't feel like you have chemistry when you kiss somebody, it's hard to even think about kissing them again or anything like that. But this feels like it's a good opportunity for growth for you in terms of really kind of trying to strip away your layers and go into things that make you uncomfortable.

Not to a degree where you have to go of sex with somebody that you're not interested in, but to a degree where you're pushing yourself to perhaps go out with him again and try it again, you know, and if it's not him, another guy or another woman like whomever.

But as a practice for yourself, not necessarily to be in a relationship, but in a practice of like tearing down the things that go look to you when something says, look to you or you have that feeling, you've got to make a note of it and go, oh, that's a yellow light. Is that about me? Or is that about him or her? Right? Right? And I'm pretty sure it is about me, because you know, we have all the things in common. I'm like, if this doesn't work, how the hell am I going to date anybody else

that doesn't have all these boxes ticked right? And it was just kind of that all it's lacking is that spark, you know, when you kiss somebody and then you want to sleep with them. And that was kind of like, I don't really want to sleep with you. That said, I have slept with him in the past, so my bad. I've maybe sent off the wrong signals exactly. So you sleep with him past, you know, or not your beat? One thing? I hear you, I hear you. Kind of

keep doing this. It's what Chelsea was saying. You said a minute ago, I like the wine, not the label. Yes, you're but you are labeling exactly what you want and you have your own labels, which happens all this with maturity. As we mature, we get kind of set in our ways, and no, it needs to fit this and this is how I this is how my life goes, this is

what I expect, and we're less malluable. And what I hear Chelsea's saying, which I second, is relax your own labels on yourself and the boxes that he or any other man needs to absolutely fit for you. So maybe just enjoy that one without looking at the label a little bit. And I think that's what Chelsea's saying is if if it's not just perfect, to cut yourself or you go, wait, that that didn't fit, that didn't fit, that didn't go exactly how I wanted it to be.

That kiss didn't make me want to go further. Well maybe that was all it was needed. Right then maybe start Sometimes you get to know that you already got your asset with this guy, is that you already got a friendship? Well not anymore there, Yeah, it was there. The last eighteen years are not gone. Whatever y'all formed over eighteen years, it's not like white outs over it. It's still there. You want to rekindle that and go. You want to pick back up and just go have

a freaking cup of coffee and not kiss. You want to get back at doing some things that we like we used to like to do just together and just maybe that's maybe restarting there. And if you know that if the kiss works, it'll probably be the time where he doesn't ask you or you don't ask him, and it just happens exactly and when, and go back when you were asking me about when it happened for Joe and me, we had hung out for over a year before anything happened. And when it happened, I made it

happen because it had to come from me. And I would suggest hanging out with them with you first of all, repair whatever damage has been done, which you can easily do over an eighteen year relationship, and say, let's just try this again as friends. Let's see if it goes anywhere in a more natural progression, because I think if he ticks all these boxes a it's worth another go. You do you know what I mean? You're saying, all he has got all these things except for your feelings

towards him, and that can happen. That comes up for people all the time. They fall in love with their friends all the time. You can't force it to happen. It has to naturally organically happen, and you can continue to spend more time together. You don't have to kiss each other or fuck each other or whatever, but spend

more time and see if it happens naturally. And also as a test for yourself, also explore that with other people too, you know, because I'm glad Matthew said that about the wine and the label, because as soon as you made that declaration, it was clear that you're doing the opposite of what you think you're doing. You don't have to make declarations about who you are, you know what I mean. So I think that you might think you're looking at the wine and not the label, but

it's quite the opposite, right, fair enough. I think right now is good that this call worked out when it did, because I was actually thinking of writing him or letter because right now he's just cut me out of his life completely, unfollowed me on duo, lingo and good Reads and Facebook and all the things that we shared common interest in. And I text him and I was like, so my biggest fear was losing in the friendship. And he just said, I can't be friends with you because

I'll always want more. And I thought, okay, so you're just willing to throw away eighteen years of friendship because your feelings are hurt. So it's like, at this point, is it crossing a line to write him a letter and just be like, hey, maybe we didn't try long enough or I don't know. At this point sounds like

you're very similar. Maybe just simplify a little bit. And then if you do write him a letter, which sounds like you should, because about eighteen years, you don't want to throw that out like that was a nothing part of your life. That was real. Whether it works out for you all or not, that was real. You built that. You don't want to throw that out completely. I mean,

if you do write him a letter, be considerate. I'm sure he feels like he got bruised or lost or made an advance and you had it and then you were like, Nope, that's it. He probably feels a little embarrassed, a little shame, a little loss, a little less just maybe as a friend. Go man, if this has out and made you feel I didn't mean to hurt you,

but that's how I felt. This is all so damn complicated, and you want to go back back back a few months before we before that kiss, and just start with when we were high fiving and go have a couple of coffee or a walk and start right there some simple shit and maybe maybe cuss each other out and go, this fucking made me pissed off and this hurt me. That could be it could be fun. You know. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that, and I think you should definitely

write him a letter, but also acknowledge his feelings. Definitely acknowledge the fact that he was the way he may be feeling right now. But you know, as an effort to retain this friendship, you can say, in the hopes I want to have these feelings for you, I'm willing to try this again, but we also have to be adults, and if it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out. People have been turned down before and been able to maintain friendships. You know. Obviously he needs a little bit

of time to get over what he's dealing with. But I think that you should really definitely focus on some of the things that we said to you about looking within yourself and figuring out, you know, what your stipulations and kind of roadblocks have been and kind of just try to open them up and just kind of be open to whatever. Don't have it in your head the way that it needs to look perfectly right. Absolutely, well, Carrie, let us know how it goes. Okay, for sure, Thanks, Okay,

good luck. Forty eight's great. I just turned forty eight, and I'm yeah, I'm kind of at that age where it's like, you know, I'm not one of those people that is desperate to be in a relationship. I actually quite like being single. And that's probably part of the problem with dating, is like I'll start dating and then I'm like, we're actually single. It's not so bad. So yeah, I'm definitely at forty eight. I'm not even at forty eight. I'm not in a rush to get into any sort

of relationship, but it would be nice. Okay, take care, nice to speak with you. Thanks. Okay, we're running out of time, so we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back. We're back. That was awesome, Matthew McConaughey, you were great, has predicted. Yes, thank you so to this event. To Matthew's event that he's hosting with Tony Robbins. It is a virtual event. It's called Art of Living Live on April twenty four, Right, so you can go online and register at art of

livin event dot com and sign up. It's actually free to attend, so go check it out. Oh yeah, that's awesome. A matter. So it's all free. Yeah, it's all free. Oh great and online? Okay, awesome. Thanks for sharing today, Thanks for being here, Thanks for giving advice to our callers. Appreciate it. I enjoyed that. Okay, enjoy that by Matthew. Bye. Oh well, great episode, Mabulas and don't forget everybody. My new special Revolution is now streaming on Netflix and it's badass.

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