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Not Wearing Pants with Michael Rapaport

Nov 10, 20221 hr 3 minSeason 3Ep. 27
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Michael Rapaport joins Chelsea this week to discuss Kanye West, getting better at relationships with age, and marrying the one that got away.  Then: A liberal mom wonders if she needs to ditch her problematic f-buddy.  A comedian lacking confidence struggles to prepare for their next big show.  And a 30-something is caught between two men - who both happen to be in love with her.

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Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea, how are you? And well, how's your new abode? Catherine and Brad moved into a new house, you guys, we did. We bought a house. You guys heard about it here when we had put in an offer on the house. But it's going great. There's so many projects, but we're really enjoying doing the projects so well. Isn't that just a happy homemaking story. What a success story. And you sent me a beautiful picture of the sunset from your house the other night that I was blown

away by. Yes, it it's gorgeous out there because we're right at the base of the mountains and so every night the sunset lights them up, all orange and salmon, and then we just had this incredible from pinks to oranges to purple's. It was just it was just gorgeous. Well, that's great, and I mean there's also a red blood

moon coming tonight. We are recording this on Tuesday, November eight, which is election day, to air on Thursday, November ten, where we will know the results unless there are fifty thousand lawsuits still happening at that time, which is a possibility. Yes, but there's a blood red moon Hopefully it's not like a port end of doom. It is. I after I spoke to that astrologist, Jade Luna. He's on Instagram as Jade Saluna. I did my annual forecast with him actually

last night, well go back, I did. I had some shows this weekend, and uh, I did another reading with him, and he was explaining to me how all the planets, whether they're in your sign or not, can dictate what's happening now. And I'm and I believe that. And he said, if Donald Trump is able to run in, Jupiter is through his sign, is moving through his sign that year, which is almost unstoppable, which means he will have so much good career fortune that he will be unbeatable if

he runs in. So hopefully he'll be arrested or put down before then. I mean, I UM have some shows coming up this weekend Rockford, Illinois. My sister in law is going to a friend, Julie, who loves this podcast. Friday, November eleven, I'm in Rockford, Illinois. Saturday night I'm in in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and then Sunday night i am in Rosemont, Illinois. And then Thursday the following Thursday, I have two shows in Tampa, Florida at the Hard Rock Casino, So what

else was I going to say? Oh? Yes, I got very intoxicated this weekend and it was really hard to shake it. Where were you partying, Tucson? Surprisingly, yes, we unexpectedly went out after the Tucson show. We all got very Actually, no, I think I was the one who got the most intoxicated, and then we got up. I went to the gym in the morning because I like

to do the gym no matter what happens. But I quickly turned around and realized that I had no business being inside the gym because I just did not feel right. Some people can, like they swear, by sweating out your hangover. That was my intention, and I can't do it. No. I did about fifteen minutes of an ABS class and then I gave up my exercise. With a hangover is like going to the bathroom and throwing up and then going back to bed. That's all I can do. So

so anyway, I finally recovered, but it took a minute. Yeah. We went to a lot of Republican areas this weekend, Colorado Springs and Tucson, and they were both awesome. Shows. So it's just nice to have my people everywhere I go. Yeah, I mean Phoenix and Tucson, like those areas. They're such like fun foodie towns actually, and they've got cute places to go out. It's kind of lovely. Well, the airport in Tucson is a little bit like a correctional facility.

There's no one there, and the people who are working there look like armed guards and are like and there's there, and there may as well be cageous in the airport because that's how it feels. My security guy was like, you stay in the car, will be check you into the flight. And I was like, okay, And usually that's like five or ten minutes, and then it was thirty minutes. I texted my sister and I was like, Hey, what's up. And she's like, you don't want to see what's going

on in here. And she's like, there's a woman. There's one woman working ticket counter for the entire airline and she's never never done this before. Clearly than well, yes, of course, of course, what else could I possibly do? I just read a good book. If anyone's looking for a good book. Signifiers, Okay, I just finished that over the weekend and then I gave it right away to a friend whose birthday it was. Yeah, that was a

really good book. So that's it's about life. It's about all these different characters living on the street and like different times in their lives, and it just kind of connects everybody. And it's a lot about the stars and the galaxy and how everybody's connected and how you know, life is like how time is a continuum, and it's cool. It was like I was open to that. You know, I'm much more open to all of that stuff now, so when I read it, I like it. I feel

like they're speaking to me. Yeah, it's it's fun. And we've got actually some very fun sort of woo woo guests coming coming up. Oh yeah, we do. We've booked a lot of fun guests like that. I think recently sort of found out that a lot of listeners to show are into that stuff, which we are too, so it works out. Yeah, we have Laura Lynn Jackson coming on the show was one of my favorites, and then

the media, Yeah, we're going to book him. I do have to say I'm a little bit of a skeptic of his stuff in particular because I'm like, can't you google that? But I don't know. Everybody gets really blown away. Well maybe we can just have callers call in and then he has no prior knowledge of them. I love that because he can't do me or you because that's easily researchable. Right, Okay, I like this. I kind of want him to prove himself to me. I want to believe.

I want to believe. Yeah, I want to believe to Yeah. I like to believe in that stuff because it just makes everything more tolerable and it's more fun, especially when people die. It's like there's nothing comforting you could say to anybody wants somebody's dead, except for the fact that they're not really gone and that they're always around you and nobody's energy will ever really die. I fully believe that, but it's also like proven by quantum physics. I'm pretty

sure yes it is. Whatever that is. Where where did your other thermisco? You're one that you've haven't been able to let go since ma Orca. I have to tell you, I lost it. I went to Disneyland. Oh god, well that was the first mistake. Catherine with your hard boiled eggs. Did you take your hard boiled eggs to Disneyland. I didn't, but I didn't have a smoothie in the car. But listen, I was like, they're gonna have Christmas stuff up. I'm not into it yet. Halloween just happened. I went ham

on all of the Christmas merch. I currently have a Mickey tumbler for my coffee. He is dressed in a Santa hat. Oh, I just I bought it all. Catherine and I couldn't be more different. Would Brad take you to Disneyland? No, I go with one of my girlfriends. We do a podcast called Driving to Disneyland. Brad are you there? Are you on board with this or what? Brad? Men aren't allowed to talk on this podcast, muted him. Yeah, never gone. Well we do, man. We have a straight man,

you guys as our guest today on the podcast. Is that the first time, no, Mike Berbiglia, we've had some straight yeah. Justin Long Oh yeah, Justin. I love him. I ran into him and his girlfriend keep on with at the airport. They're so cute. I love watching people and young love. Yeah. They seem so happy. I know, yeah, everyone's happy in the beginning. Okay, Oh yeah, our guest today. You're gonna love him well, you know him because he's He's one hot mess and I respect it. Our next

guest has the I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast. He's on tour doing live shows. All tickets and dates are at Michael Rappaport Comedy dot com. That's r A P A p O r T. Please welcome the very disruptive Michael Rappaport. Hi, Michael, you hello, what's up? Hoem? Skillet are better now that Adidas dropped Kanye You look dashing as always, Michael. Ha ha. This is my co host, Catherine. I'm good, I'm good, Michael.

Tell me the morning that we're recording is is the morning I woke up and saw that Adidas finally dropped Kanye West. What do you think took Adidas two and a half weeks to drop Kanye West? I mean, as far as Adidas dropping Kanye West, I'm sure his business, you know, I'm sure it's business. I'm sure he's deep

in that company. Yeah, because him calling them out and saying there there's no way that they can fire me, There's no way they can fire me almost led me to believe that he had some stipulation in his contract that like allowed for either freedom of speech or something about, you know, being able to voice his opinions or something. Because he was so confident. I mean, not that anything he says is that reliable, since he's clearly off of

his meds. But I was like, does he have something going with Adidas where they're not allowed to fire him for being racist and anti Semitic. It seemed like that. That's that seems like why it took so long to me. But you know, as far as Adidas in all these places severing ties with him, and because I've been thinking a lot about it and talking a lot about it.

The whole thing is he didn't invent anti Semitism. But but what he did do in the last two weeks with talking on these platforms and these platforms continuing to let him speak, even down to this Lex Friedman, fucking guy who put him on a two and a half

hour podcast just last night which I listened to. And he's Jewish and he allegedly has family members that were killed in the Holocaust And to sit there and you know, be belittled and try to sort of massage this guy office points and you know, and then those people at the four or five freeway. That's the ramifications of him talking that way. It's the same thing with Trump when you sort of embolden these people. And you the thing about Trump that's smarter than Kanye s that Trump is

the the king. He has the art of implication, implicative speaking down to a t. He he does it better than anyone I've ever heard. He'll say everything without saying it. That's why he's never in trouble because he'll skirt around it. Kanye's just sucking saying all the ship. And it's just like to the point where Trump even said, this guy's fucking nuts and he needs help. And you know, if Trump is saying this guy's nuts and you need to help,

you're you're in bad shape. But may mean just the whole thing is it's not good, you know, and you have to do soul searching because if you won't accept the anti Jewish talk, then you have to really be down not to accept it across the board. It can't be you pick and choose the people that you're gonna stand by and defend or stand up for. I don't know, it's been an interesting time because you never would have thought Kanye West would have been sort of the spokesperson

for anti Semitism. Two. It's just a sort of a far like a far out thing. It's gonna be one of those things when you look back at the year two. This will be like a highlighted part twenty years sort of like, oh ship. Remember when Kanye West was saying the wildest ship that I've ever heard about Jewish people publicly from a successful person, Like he's saying everything. But you know, then you think, like will he be back? Will he is? They're coming back from him? Because mel

Gibson is is. I don't think mel Gibson ever publicly apologized. I don't know if he did. I think he wrote wrote a statement, but I don't know for sure if you ever publicly apologized for his stuff. And you know, I'm sure it's excuse to me he was on drugs where he was drinking and and and you know, Kanye probably said this, he was in a mental breakdown and blah blah blah blah blah, and and whether you accept

those apologies is up teaching individual. I guess. So what it was the podcast of the Freedman podcast, what what kind of conversation. I mean, how did that go well? The Freeman podcast. He's an engineer, he's one of these smart guys, got a popular podcast. You know, he's one of these sort of Joe Rogan has had him on. He's one of these guys and their friends, and he's Jewish, and he was trying to sort of explain to him

why he was doing a fair job. And he was attempting to articulate why saying the Jewish media and why saying these broad stroke statements are are not right, They're not good, they're not acceptable. Why don't you just name names? You get more done if you just say Jim, Alex, Frank and Tommy. Are these people from these companies have sucked me over? And this manager has fucked me over, like instead of making these broad sweeping shows, and he

was trying to do that. The thing that frustrated me is that it was going nowhere to the point where he convinced him you shouldn't say Jewish media. And then Kanye West was like, Okay, I'll just say jam and that's where you go. Suck my dick the interviews over,

Get the funk off my show. As far as I'm concerned as far as I'm because they're because you're we're handling this guy with kick clubs, because he makes good songs and he makes good sneakers, and inevitably you should just be told, just like everybody else, to suck my dick. Interviews over. That's it, that's how he needs to be treated. But because he's famous, I think people are like tiptoe

around it. This guy seemed like he was tiptoe around it. Yeah, I mean, even to give him a platform at this point just seems stupid, Like it's not like he's going to be convinced. You're not dealing with a rational person. You're dealing with like a terrorist, you know what I mean. And if say, if that's your friend, take him to dinner.

If you if you care about him, take him to dinner and don't fill me like you know, like if you want to explain to him your point of view and that really is your friend, go I have a private dinner somewhere. Take him to get a lobotomy, do something you just can't rationalize with someone who's in their mental illness choosing to not get treatment totally not rational and having a manic episode. But we don't know, you know, this idea of in their mental illness having a manic episode.

I haven't seen his paperwork, have you. I haven't seen his diagnosis. Of course he's said he has bipolar disorder, but we don't really know. It's not an excuse, it's it's when I'm not on my lexa pro when not when when I'm not hopped up on my twenty MILEXI pro. I was just about to ask what kind of medication you're on. I'm just on twenty mgs of a little lexepro. That's all a little more stabilizing, just keeps me, you know,

keep in the pocket. I had to learn what that me and that phrase Matt and keep you in the pocket. Somebody said that. They were like, oh, you were so in the pocket? I go, what does that mean? I didn't even know what that phrase was. You didn't know. I don't know how I missed that one. It's a pretty big one. Is a music it's a music well I think it's from a music thing. But you you say, probably as a would somebody say to you in regard

to a performance. Yeah, yeah, it means like, yeah, you're in the podcast, you're in this week Okay, copy that you're in the flow. Michael, tell me about what you think your best qualities are. What I think my best qualities are. I think that probably one of my best qualities is I have a dog like instinct to sniff out bullshit. I think I'm generous. I think that I am what babe, my wife is over here telling me. Yeah, for better for words, I think I'm authentic. I think,

generally speaking, I think I'm I'm authentic. Wait, can you bring your wife over? I want to say hi, Bige. They want to say hi. Do you in the podcast? Hi? Hey? How are you hi? Chelsea? I was sitting row when you did busiest podcasts and I just wanted to be like, I fucking love you. I mean her show that busy tonight. Yeah. Yeah. When I say when I said he's authentic, I didn't mean in that new fangled hippie dippy like I'm authentic.

I mean truly, he is one of the most what you see is really what you get, and and truly for better for worse, for better for worse. She can tell you that he is not. We I've known him for thirty years. He is not. There's no phony Bologney bullshit. He does not. He gives zero fox. He is who he is, he doesn't change he's he is totally generous, he is authentic. And you know what, Alexa pro is not a mood stabilizer the press. Bye. That's how she deals with you every day. She's like, listen, this is

what actually happened. She has to deal with every day. I know, I can't even imagine. She must be cool as fuck. Yeah, she's She's cool, impatient, and you know, we we have known each other for such a long time, so there is a good understanding of each other, and we've grown, We've grown with each other. Yeah, yeah, well you've been Have you been dating for thirty years or you've just known each other for the No? No, no, well we dated ship. Hell no, we dated when we

were young. We met when we were young, twenty one years old, and we dated for about four or five years, and then we went our separate ways and then I wind up getting married, I had two kids, got divorced, and then twelve years ago we got back together again and we got married. Five years ago. I think, oh wow, that's a love story. It's it's a good love story. It's a good love story. I mean, you know, we know each other very well. Yeah, yeah, she must bring

out the best in you. Do you think that's true. She definitely brings out the best of me. She pushes me to be the best I could be. I hope, hopefully I pushed her to be the best I could be. You know, she's a good you know, I I need boundaries, So she's good at keeping boundaries but also letting me be myself. And I think I do the same thing for her. And I think we support each other and and our patient with each other and continue to get to know each other. You know, sometimes I say that

to her and she's like, what do you mean? I say, like, our relationship is continue to evolve. I think once if you stop evolving in a relationship, whether it's a boy girl romantic relationship or boy boy or girl girl romantically, I don't want to get canceled here, any sort of romantic relationship or even just a relationship with you know, with your parents, or relationship with friends. Relationships need to evolve. They need to evolve, and when when they don't, I

think you could get into a slippery slope. Yeah, well, that's a very important thing for men to understand. Actually, you know, there is an evolution. And also it's important to grow as a person, to not remain fixed in your line of thinking or your opinions or your viewpoints. Because every phase of our lives or personality traits, it's not a state of being. It's a state of mind. And your states of mind can change over time and

when you learn new things. Yeah, and I find that to be a very recurring theme with a lot of guys. I guess guys are different now, you know, there's and definitely younger guys are more open to understanding that things are not fixed, Like you don't have just a personality trait and like that's just the way I am. Where there should be a desire to grow and move and improve. You know, if you're a jealous person, you should know that that's not you don't have to be that way.

You don't have to live your life like that way. If you're if you have no self esteem, or if you're insecure, that's also a state of mind, not a state of being. I agree, And for me age, you know, I'm fifty two now. Relationships not just romantic, whether it be business, whether it be on set relationships or personal relationships or even relationships with my family. Athletes talk about the games slowing down, and that's when they get to get into the pocket easier where the game slows down.

For me, relationships in life have slowed down a little bit so I could see things better and not just react. Because I'm a very reactive person, as you could imagine. Yeah, I used to be really reactive as well, and then I went to therapy and realized I don't have to live like that. And it's a it's a load off my shoulders because it's like, oh, I don't need to react to everything. I agree. I agree, And there's a

real power and feeling when you don't react. You know, there's a real power to it, to going okay, I didn't react to that, or not inserting yourself where it's unnecessary. It's a great hub to have gotten past. And anytime I am reactive, I catch myself I'm like, wait a second, you're not even thinking about what you're saying right now? Do you want to say it? I'm like, oh no, no, no, So just the awareness of it is even, you know, like it's a whole thing of like a new way

of thinking, So I appreciate that a lot. All right, So retake callers people calling for advice, so then you you have to tell them what yeah, and you're going to give them. Some of them are summer letters and Summer Live on Zoom. So get ready, all right, I'm ready. Okay, We're gonna take a quick break and then Michael, I need you to put your pants back on and we're back. Great. Oh, because I actually don't have on pain I know, I didn't expect for you too, and actually did you request

that he didn't wear? Okay, we want to bring this look back for men. Okay, it's such a flattering look, a sweater with no pants on. I was like, how the fund did she know I don't have pants on?

You started sitting, you kept sitting. I do have to say I was excited for you to come on the show, Michael, because when I was talking to Chelsea about like various people that we might have upcoming, and your folks had reached out to us and said, you know how about Michael rap report and Chelsea just started laughing and then continued laughing for like forty five seconds. I was like, I think that's a yes. I love you funny because

I never met you, Chelsea, I've never met you in person. No, that's so funny because I was going to say the same thing. But any time I say that, everyone's like we met three times. So I don't say that anymore or they'll be like I was on your show. Uh No, I didn't realize that we hadn't mad. It feels like we have never like I've never I've never seen you in real life, like I've never seen you before. Oh that's weird, gust fix it. Yeah, Well, we'll run into

each other at some point, I'm sure for sure. Well, our first question is an email, and this comes from l Hi Chelsea. I'm a woman in my early forties, and unfortunately I'm sleeping with a Republican. We've been seeing one another for about four plus years. I know we don't usually do a lot of political questions, but I felt like, you know, this is a kind of a good one. We've been seeing each other for four plus years and love one another. The sex is ridiculously amazing.

He's my favorite person, and we get along great as long as we don't discuss any sort of social or political issues. We're both divorced, and have children, so we have zero rush to live together or the serious future right now, since our priorities are our children. I love him, but lately our differences are becoming increasingly apparent, and I'm

irritated and angry. He's a cop and former marine. I'm a doctor who works primarily with kids and teens, many of them being transgender or lgbt Q. I've seen firsthand the effects discrimination and marginalization can have on people and how traumatizing it can be, and I care deeply about how others are treated and their emotional well being. My partner mocks pronoun usage and frankly seems transphobic and homophobic.

I'm pretty passionate about equality and give as much as I can to support causes I believe in that make a difference, whether through volunteer work or donations. I'm from an affluent family. I'm educated and relatively well off, yet I don't mind having to pay my share in taxes if it means bettering the lives of others who have less. He had a very different upbringing than I did, and has had to work hard to be in the financial position he's in now. He makes two K year or

so so he's not exactly underpaid. He gets up set every time a law is passed that provides more social or financial support to others. I won't get into our differences with vaccines and mask use, but I'm pretty sure you can guess where each of us stands on those issues. I was previously able to ignore our differences and just not discuss them, but as someone who has only become increasingly passionate about social justice issues and politics, it's now

impossible to bite my tongue. What's more, his social media is a ton of let's go Brandon, anti vax or yea guns stuff that I find disgusting and immature. He's made all of his accounts private because I got upset over his content and reposting of some very discriminatory posts and tweets. I've overheard him use terms like stupid vaxers and lib tards to describe people who are well, just like me. It feels like he has zero respect for the work I do with LGBTQ youth, anyone who isn't

a white male, and sadly me, I'm angry. I'm hurt, but worse, I'm conflicted about staying in this relationship. I know I can't change his views, but I think we may be too different and have too many conflicting values for this to work. Our chemistry and sex life are out of this world hot, but I'm wondering if maybe that's all there is, and we're just too different to stay together much longer. I should add he isn't bothered

by any of this. Any advice on how to handle having someone in my life whose world views are so contrary to my own, or is this a lost cause? L I mean it sounds like it's a lost cause quite frankly, because he's so aggressive. I mean, it's one thing to be a Republican, but it's another thing to actively be against trans children, or be homophobic or throwing around phrases like let's go Brandon and libtard doesn't invoke any sort of healthy state of mind in my opinion.

And yes, sex is great, but guess what, you can suck a bunch of other people and have great sex also, like who gives a ship? If the sex is great, that is not enough of a reason to stay in a relationship. If it was just like a fly by night, I would say, sure, Yeah, I keep having sex with him, But clearly you're getting aggravated and the value system is on opposing ends of the spectrum. So there's no point in continuing that because you're just going to enervate yourself

by even being in the same relationship with him. And and yeah, blocking I mean not being able to follo him on social media because his supposts are so upsetting, Like that's kind of a deal breaker. I mean, it is a value it's a value issue. Your values are different than his. Michael, what do you think I agree? I mean at first, I was, you know, at the beginning of the letter, I was going to be like, you know, just seemed to just so, I I agree

with what everything you're saying. When you're funny, you funk the sex whatever, what do you I mean, what do you like? There's plenty of people you could have good sex with, So you gotta shut down. What's this lady's name? L got to shut it down? Okay, shut it down

now and listen. It was just like a light thing, But it sounds like it's not a light thing because that would be kind of kinky, like, oh, you know, while you're having sex with him, he's like, you dumb, fucking lived toward let's go Brandon, and that could be like a kinky kind of sex old thing, but it's this seems like a more interpersonal relationship. So I feel like the relationship, you need to shut it down. You

guys are adults, so you need to shut it down. Also, you know, I would love to say, sure, you could date somebody who's a Republican. I would like that to be true. But in this stage that we're in, it's pretty being a Republican represents restricting women's rights, it represents restricting gay rights, trans rights, any marginalized group, like, it stands for a lot more than it used to in

terms of oppression and and contraction of human rights. So it's not really feasible that, I mean, everything is so divisive. I wish it weren't this way, but it is. And like, unfortunately, you're living in a time where Republicans do represent all of those things. If you're voting for a Republican candidate, especially because of your like what's coming out of your pocketbook, I mean, that's just the lamest excuse ever for voting for anybody at the cost of everyone else's rights. The

world is never gonna be white again. Okay, so just fucking shut up about it already. It's never gonna be like that. There's two much of a population of people who are brown and black, and that is going to be the majority, which is what scares the funk out of Republicans. But it's like, just be loving. Don't you want to live in a loving, nice place where people are friendly and not screaming at each other and yelling about guns. Fuck off? So yeah, leave him? Okay. I agree.

It's one thing to have different political beliefs than someone. It's a different thing to have a varying degree of value on human life. And this seems to extreme. This is not even political, This is like values and and he's blocking you on social media because he's posting wild ship. That's crazy. These are how old is? How old is? Mid forties? Come? Yeah? And especially there are kids involved.

If you do want a long term relationship with this guy, you are eventually going to have him around your kids. So like, is that someone you want instilling their values and your kids? Probably not? No, definitely not. And you know what, having sex with somebody who values women's rights is going to be a lot hotter than having sex with this guy up all right, now solved. They'll be able to tell by the way he touches your hair. Well. Our next question is a coller. This is Jackie. Dear Chelsea.

I'm in love with two different men, and what's worse sins they're both in love with me like this story. Yeah, eventually I have to break someone's heart, and I can't imagine doing that to anyone. These men are both polar opposites of each other. I relate to them in different areas of life. The chemical connection is insane with each guy. Both of them tell me they're so in love with me and that I'm the love of their lives, and I truly believe both of them. It's incredible and yet

incredibly painful at the same time. I just want you to know while we're reading this, Michael is licking his lips. Well, that's because they're dry. Somebody just popped. Yeah, that's the call. She's gonna be two and two together, Michael, I got it, I got I don't know what the is going on here, obviously, she says, I don't know how to choose. One guy is my boyfriend of two years and the other is my ex boyfriend that has come back into my life.

My current boyfriend has been very difficult lately, and my ex boyfriend has really done the work to figure himself out. The sex is also amazing with both, but a little better with my current boyfriend, and that area of the relationship is very important to me. I need someone who's not afraid to tell me like it is. Help Jackie, and I should clarify she's not sleeping with both of them currently. She just remembers the ex from before, right, Jackie. Yes, okay,

Hi Jackie, Right Jackie. You sure you're not sleeping with them both? Not currently? Okay? So you're still in love with your ex boyfriend and you're in love with your new boyfriend and you're only sleeping with your new boyfriend. Yes, okay. I was hoping that you were sleeping with both of them at the same time, just because I love drama, you know what I mean. I mean, yeah, that would be nice, but now that's not my Okay. Well, that's nice of you not to do that, because that's, yeah,

cheating isn't nice. So how long were you with your ex boyfriend? Not that long, like six months and then you guys broke up because why, Well, I was divorced for about a year when I met him, and he was my first boyfriend's sense of divorce and so I was kind of crazy and so he ended it. Uh huh. And so when you say he came back now that he's done the work, what does that mean. Oh, he went to therapy, he did a lot of work on himself.

He's very like emotionally available and everything like that. So yeah, the ex boyfriends, Yes, how do you know that now? Because you were in a relationship with the new boyfriend, Like he might be presenting himself that way, but you

can only really tell from being in the trenches with somebody. Yeah, I understand that, but I've known him for a long time and I know his family, like they all surround me in this neighborhood that I live in, so I'm surrounded by his entire family, so they are like well known to me. So how long have you guys been broken up? Three years? And how long have you been with the new guy two and a half? Okay, and

so your ex boyfriend is actively trying to get you back? Yes? Interesting, Yeah, that is they both tell me the same thing like all the time. And does your current boyfriend know that your ex boyfriend is trying to get you back. Oh no, okay, okay, this is juicy. It is crazy. I feel like it's a very embarrassing problem. Why because it sounds like a soap opera and that is not my life. Yeah, but some people, some people have this stuff going on. That's

nothing to be embarrassed about. It's cute. You have two guys that love you and you have to choose. That's a horrible it's horrible. It's agony. Do you feel like you're in love with both of them? Yes? Absolutely, And you're having an emotional affair with your ex boyfriend while you're with your boyfriend sort of yes, So are you going out and like seeing the ax? Have you guys been in contact in person and letters? Like what's the

vibe there? Well, it's crazy because he has a ton of siblings and they all have children, and so we see each other like sports games and stuff like that, and like we you know, we do we see each other. So it's kind of is there lingering hugs and ship like that? No, nothing like that. But he's just more emotionally available than like my current boyfriend. So like the

lacking and my current boyfriend is not helping anything. The grass is always greener on the other side, absolutely, and that's I'm very self aware, Like I'm not going to go move to an ex boyfriend just because of the lacking and my current boyfriend. That's not going to happen. So what do you like about your current boyfriend? Tell us all the good things about him. I mean, he's pretty amazing. A lot there are polar opposites. My current boyfriend is like type A. He played rugby in college.

He's a business guy. He's very like active, he did half iron Man's like all that type of stuff, and he's very very fun. We have the best time together doing absolutely nothing, which is the best. But my ex boyfriend was We had fun doing nothing as well. He's just more relaxed, easy going things like that. So I don't know, I'm kind of leaning towards your ex boyfriend.

I like, like, I like a like a story like that, like where you break up and then the person goes and takes care of their ship and then they come back. Like I find that to be very romantic. But I can't really decide for you who you like more. I mean, that is a tough situation to be in. You have to sit and like literally meditate on it and close your eyes and figure out what the feeling that comes

to you is. Well right, And not only that, but I'm very aware that it could be no one I could end up with neither of them, Like, none of them could work out. So I don't know, it's very hard to tell, like what outweighs what? You know? What I mean? Yeah, So what are the conversations around him pursuing you while you're in a relationship. Are you allowing that to keep going? Or did you say, hey, like this is disrespectful to a degree, because if your current

boyfriend found that out, he'd be fucking pissed. Oh yeah, he's doing that to me, I'd be fucking pissed. So yeah, I completely understand when I put that in perspective, But um, I hate to hurt anyone's feelings. And that's the biggest problem I have. Whatever I choose, someone is going to be heartbroken, and I don't want to do that to

either of them. Yeah, but if your ex boyfriend is heartbroken, like, that's not your responsibility his heartbreak, right, You're not with him, So and you guys have been broken up for a period of time and you're in another relationship. Yeah, and he broke up with me first, so that's right. Yeah, what are some of the you said there's some complications with your current boyfriend? What what's going on there? The time limit that we have together is not enough for me.

We've been together for two a half years, so I mean, I would like to move in together soon. He says that we will. I know he wants to get married, but it's just not moving quick enough for me. And we live a half hour apart, and he doesn't really come here that often. I usually go there a lot, So that's a problem, just the availability. Okay, well wait, you just said something that leads me to believe that.

You say you want to move in with him, and the only reason you're hesitant about that is or he seems to be putting it off for whatever reason or not doing it in your timeline, But that is that implies that you want to be with him, that you want to spend the rest of your life with him, if you want to move in with him. So I feel like the other guys irrelevant in that situation. If

those circumstances changed right. Well, it just feel like, you know, if my current boyfriend wanted to be with me really bad, he would show me the effort and like moving forward, and that's not happening. So it's like, if you wanted to be with me, I would know, you know what I mean? Do you ask him for like a more concrete timeline I have. We've had like a zillion conversations about it until I'm blue in the face and I'm kind of like over it by now. What is his response?

What does he say? Oh? He just says like, yeah, I do want to live with you, I do want to get married, and I believe him he does. It's just to get him to move like in any sort of way, any sort of action. He is not a planner by any means, so for him to do anything is like pulling teeth. Well, you could kill two birds with one stone. You can just break up with your current boyfriend and get back together with your AX, and I bet you the current boyfriend will be ready to

move in as that would be the case. I probed my boyfriend today, he would text me in or call me in like a month or two in crying or something like. That's the way it works. Yeah, always, always, Michael, what are your thoughts on having to pending relationships one

relationship and one x lever. It's just seems confusing, And I think that essentially, Jackie, I think having an emotional affair with your ex boyfriend and you know that your current boyfriend wouldn't like that, you might have to kick both these dudes to the curb. You might have to start from scratch because neither one of them might not be the guy for you for a long term thing. Well, that's what I'm thinking. I feel like they're lacking. They pick up what each other lacks. They both Yeah, may

not work out, that's a real reality. Or you could just be honest with your real current boyfriend and tell him that you're having an emotional affair with your ex boyfriend because of what's lacking in your relationship today. Yeah, you got options because if he breaks up with you, you could just go back with that other gie. Just make him make the decision for me. Well, yeah, I mean,

why not just be honest about it. I mean that is the best form of communication, is like laying it out there, and that way you don't have anything to feel guilty about. Be like listen, this is lacking. I'm a little bit bummed about how slowly this is moving and I want to be living together. You don't want this. So I've started talking to my ex boyfriend, and guess what, he's really in love with me, and I feel like I get something from him that I'm not get from

this relationship. This is worth discussing if we're going to move forward or not. You know. Yeah, and I haven't told him about my ex boyfriend, but I have kind of like shut things down with him a little bit. Like we're not completely broken up or anything, but I'm saying I can't wait one more day for him to make a move on anything. So we're kind of we're not not together, but we're not together either. I know that's messy, but like that's kind of the city we're

in right now. Yeah, it sounds like, yeah, you're in a messy part of your life a little bit, which is fine because then you know around the corner is like normal adulthood or healthy, healthier circumstances. Well, then great, you have the opportunity. You guys are separated sort of like go and just tell him this now, Like, Okay, if you want to do something. This is the time frame I needed to happen, otherwise I may start dating

my ex boyfriend. I think if you do, like actually break up with the current boyfriend ish situation, you have to bang the X like you have to even if you don't date them, just like at least once. Oh yeah, for sure. I've wanted to be like a ho ho girl summer forever and I've never got because I'm always in a relationship. So maybe I'll just done both of them and by summer I can go out with anyone I want. Yeah, So that's a long lead until summer. Yeah. Yeah,

but I have to get in shape too. So that's because just take some those epic you'll be fine. You don't have to get in shape. Everyone's on ozempic now. So, Michael, do you have any thoughts about like getting back with an X because Michael was telling us his wife they had data when they were in the early twenties and then they you know, went their separate ways and came

back together and are married. Or did you always love your current wife now even when you were with your other wife, not in any sort of I mean in a broad picture, we were like we didn't my wife, Kibi. Now you know, I'm a I'm a burn the building and the street and the city down type of person.

A lot of times when I end relationships. This is the only relationship where it kind of ended in a even though didn't relationships ends always sad, but it was always like we always stayed in in good graces and we were always like loving to each other. But that being said, I mean it was just timing, you know, it's you know this, it was years. It was years and years and years that we that we weren't together. So, I mean, each situation is different. I mean I have

no problem, you know with getting back with people. Each situation so specific and different. So when you were with your one wife and if you saw your other wife, did you feel any certain way loving, very loving, but not not anything to be ashamed of or like I'm talking like chemistry wise, like you don't feel that like buzz. Honestly, it's hard to answer that because it's such a long time ago. But it doesn't. It wasn't. It wasn't as complicated.

You're in conundrum. Yeah, no, ship, you're in You're in conundrum, Jackie, Jackie, tell me this, if you never saw either one of them. Again, is there one that you would feel like he's the one that got away? Yes, my current boyfriend for sure. Well I think that's your answer that I think you owe it to him to just be really honest and put it all out there, like you have nothing to lose. Well, yeah, absolutely, but I feel like I deserve more than what he's

giving me. If you going to give me anymore, then that's that anyways. Yes, even if even if my ex boyfriend didn't show up, like this still isn't enough for me anyway, So it would probably you know what I mean, And that's what needs Yeah, you've got to communicate that to him, like if you want to keep me, this moves to the next level and if not, cool like I gotta. It's so weird that women always have to give men ultimatums like I just it's so annoying to

have to even do that. Like I understand your frustration because you wanted to be a mutual affection, Like you shouldn't have to worry about whether somebody's gonna want you to move in. It should be like you both are like yeah, we're doing that, we're moving in together. We're in love, So I can understand why you're not feeling that, you know, respect or the other person should want it just as much as me. And if he doesn't, then I feel like that's a sign. How old are you? Okay,

So you're yeah, you're a grown up. Yeah, I mean I've been married, divorced, gone through relationships, therapy, the whole thing. So I'm very like, I'm very self aware of what's going on. That's why this messy situation is not like suiting me. Yeah, Like I think the advice would be different if you were you know. And also I'm not telling like anyone about this. You're the first people I've ever talk The whole world's gonna know now. Oh, I'm

not telling anyone. We're keeping her video private private share A video won't go up. They'll just hear her voice. So what are we leaving with? What am I telling your what to do? I don't fucking know. Tell me answers? I know, I know, I mean, I I just well, I think first things first, you have to have the conversation with your ex, I mean with your current boyfriend. You have to have a conversation and go listen, forget

about this little area you're in this gray area. You're you want black and white, like are you guys going to move in together or not? And if you're not, that's fine, You're going to move on and just let him know that. You don't have to men and the ex boyfriend, you don't have to threaten him with whom. Just say I'm good, I'm ready to move on. If you're not going to do this and get that out of the way, then see what he says. If the answer is no, I'm not ready, then go great, and

then you can go. You have every right to go date your ex boyfriend and see if that is something that you want. And then I guarantee you this guy is going to come around. And once he loses you, that's what happens in every single relationship. One person leaves and then the other person is like, what can I do? I know my ex husband's the same way, Like he still wants to get back together. Everybody wants to get back together with you. Yeah, after they're done, sure, but yeah,

I don't know. It's a really hard thing and I don't want to hurt anybody that's don't worry about that. You can't control that. Do what you want to do what's best for you, don't worry about hurting anybody. Have that conversation. Are you gonna do this? You're gonna have the conversation with your current guy and an honest already have like we're on like a not talking basis for a couple of days now, okay, so when you can

talk again, have this conversation. Yeah, okay, And like if you need to go be a hobiah and tell us about it, Yeah, totally don't feel bad about being a hoe either for me. Who knows. Yeah, Michael still licking his lips. Yeah, well, it's also it's also I didn't sleep when you guys said go be a hobo. You know. I think that's I think that's you know, I think women these days this is kind of like talked about. But I think it's a lot harder to do. It's a lot easier to say than actually do for women

to actually go be go be hoes. I don't care to do it. It might be the easiest thing rather than Yeah, it's definitely fun to like have a bunch of guys that you're juggling. That's fun. I've done that in my life before, and I like that feeling because there's no ties to anyone and you're just like you can let people know you're not available for anything more serious and most guys are totally downe with that anyway. So oh yeah, yeah, for sure. Well Jackie, let us

know what you posted. When you make your fucking decision and make some and take some action and let us know what happens. I will thank you so much, all right, Jackie. Sorry Jackie By, that's a stumper that was all over the shop. I was like, wait, what and then they're not together. It's like, wait, I don't understand. I was excited when I thought she was having an affair. I love to listen. This is I love listening to people talk about affairs like I love on shows when there's affairs,

I love it. I don't know why I wanted that too, I rued it. Sorry, guys, I wanted I wanted it. I wanted it more messy. I want some Jerry Spring your ship coming at us with your messy staff. Guys, Well, our next color is lucky. Lucky says. I'm not sure if you'll ever read this, but what the hell? Three months ago I started doing stand up after I graduated from college and film. A lot of my professor has told me to go into grad school or some sort of writing program for comedy, so I went with the

free option of stand up. Apparently I'm very good, which is still surprising to me since a lot of my material is me being a lesbian and non binary and I live in the close thing to a city in Montana. A lot of comics in my area I've looked up to have praised and supported me these past three months, and I'm forever grateful. Recently want to even help me get my first paid guest spot for an upcoming show. The one thing that all the comedians have told me

that I should work on is my confidence. Like a lot of comedians, I'm a byproduct of trauma, autism, and Catholic shame, so I can sometimes crumble with my confidence waivers and always have the cadence of someone who's unsure what they're saying. Even though I'm only going to be on the stage for five minutes, i still want to do really well since there's a guy there who books you more gigs if he likes your stuff. Plus, I want to be good for all the comedians that have

supported me and believed in me? How do I gain more confidence in the next two weeks, or at least learn how to fake it? Lucky and Lucky's twenty three and Lucky here with us as well. Hi Lucky, Hello, Hi, this is Michael, our special guest today. Are you doing, Lucky? I'm I'm the special guest. Actually head into my contract Chelsea to refer to me as a very special guest. I ripped up you. I ripped up your contract before the podcast. All right, anyway, Lucky, I'm supposed to be

referred to as the very special guest. But that's all right, sounds good. I'm just ship right now, Lucky. So you want to build your confidence in two weeks? Yeah, what's the two weeks? Is that a showcase or something? Yeah, it's I'm opening for another comedian who is coming into

the only really comedy place we have in Montana. So well, I think there's a lot of exercises you can do, Like if you just do ship that scares you for the next two weeks, or you go and just start doing stand up in front of stores or where people aren't gathered to do stand up that was That's gonna be a way to build your offidence, extreme situations that you're not comfortable in and putting yourself out there, like standing outside of a grocery store asking people if they

want to hear your material. That would probably build a lot of confidence because there's gonna be a lot of rejection, and that's also confidence building. It doesn't seem like it works that way, but over time and over like hits and misses, you do that is how you build confidence. The only way you're gonna build confidence is with more

stage time. So I would create that stage time in places where no one's expecting to see comedy, so you can have the worst possible scenarios and that way, when you're in a comedy club it won't even compare to that. That definitely makes a lot of sense. I agree. I think that's a really good advice. I always think it's good advice to to take a deep breath, but I think based on where you are and the limited amount of stage time you're gonna be able to get, I

think that's really good advice that Chelsea game. Even though I'm the very special guests and I thought I was gonna be the person given great advice, I don't think I could top that, but just relax. I think the most important thing is just relax and to trust yourself

and to trust your instincts. And I know that sounds generic, but that I mean, at the end of the day, that's all you could do and know your material and and and you know hopefully you'll love Just take a big deep breath before you get up there and have fun. It's comedy. You if you're not having fun, the crowd can have fun. Yeah, those things are generic, but they're true. The reason why that people say them so frequently is

because all of those things are true. You want to be able to be present on stage and be like in the moment and actually enjoying yourself, right. You want to remember each moment and be like secure in that. And the more you remind yourself, I always feel like when you're present and not distracted, like nothing can go wrong because you're really in the moment and you're reacting in real time. And yeah, you have your jokes and your material set up, but you've got that. That's what

you've got. The other things that you can't control are the things that you can just be present for and be aware of. And I feel like nothing can go wrong when you're really focused and honed in on something you know. And I would definitely do even go over to your friend's houses, go to your family's houses and fucking make them listen to you, do stand up. Just keep putting yourself in really awkward situations and I think it'll lend itself to giving you more confidence. Yeah, no, definitely.

I will probably refrained from my parents because they might not like the jokes I have most of the things about them, But who cares. That's even more, that's even better. Let them be squirm and that way. You know, that's going to be awkward. Getting through awkward moments with confidence, you know that's what you want to do, and so that's okay. Yeah, I will say this is a very awkward moment for me, so I'm it's good exercise. Yeah. And by the way, not every comedian has to be

the most confident. There's a lot of weird comics out there that have like a weird energy about them where they don't exude confidence. Michael, you would agree with me, wouldn't you. You don't have to exude confidence. But do you think, Chelsea that some comedians it's almost like a character that they're doing that because I always think like those kinds of comedians, whether it's the one that pops into my head I was thinking about recently and I

used to see him all the time, Emo Phillips. You're like, this fucking guy seems like he's in pain walking down the street, but yet to have the balls to go on stage, there has to be a certain amount of confidence. I don't know that's the person that came in my head, but there's a lot of people that play that sort of role. But to me, it's sort of like it's a character. Do you think so, Chelsea, you're knowl Yeah,

I agree. I think that a lot of people are playing up this kind of persona or character, if you will. But I do think there's a lot of people like

there's a difference between stage presence and confidence. Also, I think what you really want is stage presence, right, because it might be part of your comedy that you're not that confident, you know, So I think that's more important to think about about, like commanding a stage and being out there and making sure that nobody's going to trample on you or nobody's gonna try and heckle you, like that's more of a stage presence where you're commanding the

audience's attention, and I think that would probably be a better focus than trying to instill the confidence because that just comes with time and with time spent on stage age. I mean, I stand by doing those exercises still, but you know, just kind of a delineation of the two words. Luck. You're getting world class advice from Chelsea here. That's a

good ship you're getting here. Yeah. No, this is a very surreal moment for me, considering I used to watch Chelsea Um as a kid and why I'm doing this now. So this is a good good Make sure you have fun, Lucky. Don't put too much pressure on yourself. You're not jumping off a cliff. You ain't taking the s a t. You know, there's far more things that the ramifications are going to be worse. You've made people laugh before they're gonna laugh again. Just have a good time. Thank you.

I appreciate it so much, and you guys taking the time to tell me all this. Absolutely, honey, we're on your team. We're on team Lucky. Yes, and what a fantastic name. Also, thank you, I Joseph myself, I love that good for you, Good for you. All right, Lucky, Well, let us know how it goes, and you're gonna do great. Thank you so much. Okay, take care and try and get out of Wyoming as soon as you can. Okay,

it is the same thing actually, By lucky God. I can't believe people even have stand up comedy clubs there. I don't think I've ever performed in Montana. I mean it's just open spaces. Really. I think you just got into a field and started telling jokes to the wheat or what's in Montana? Yeah, there's a ski resort in Montana. That's all I know about Montana. We drove across Montana

actually last year and it was the weirdest thing. It was super flat and they were just these like you could see storms in the distance, but you just see a column of rain coming from a cloud. It wasn't like the whole you know, distance was filled with rain. And we wound up driving through one It was just a downpour and we out the other side and like five minutes it was the most bonkers weather I've ever seen.

It sounds like one of those rain do you know how you see those on social media now, those like twisters, but they have them over water where they pull up the water. I'm like, what the fund is that. I don't want to be have a fucking boat and run into one of those though. No, thank you. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to finish up with Michael and Chelsea. And we're back. Well, this is the part of the show, Michael where we would like to know if you would like any advice

from Chelsea. What advice could I ask from Chelsea handler parenting advice? Well, my kids are twenty and twenty two, so they're boys. The fuck you got kids, Chelsea? No, you're gonna have kids. I'm seven. I can't have kids anymore. I hope you might. You never know. I'm not sucking pulling any ship like that. I don't like that. I don't like having babies at fifty. I'm not down for that. Do you want any kids? No? I did if I had. If I wanted kids, I would have had them. I

don't have time for that. I'm too selfish. I like my life. I'm not interested in raising anybody or being responsible, you know, having to provide them with all the information that comes along with having to parent. First of all, they ask too many questions. That's annoying, you know, I mean, I can't even handle all the questions. And then I don't think insessantness is a word, but maybe it is. I'll look it up. I'm sure it'll be a word by the end of the week. Here's a question I

have for you, Chelsea. You're a ship talker. I I consider myself a ship talker. I say that with all due respect. How do you maintain your ship talking superpowers in this delicate cancel culture, day and age without compromising your ship talking superpowers and your gut instinct to talk ship? Do you know what I'm saying? Well, I think the rules are very simple. We're we're not supposed to be racist and we're not supposed to be sexist. That's it.

As long as you're not discriminating against a certain group of people within your ship talking as you say, then there is no problem. I don't feel like that's such a tall order. I feel like if I don't have to be racist or sexist, that okay. Great. I like parameters.

It makes you more clever, and you know, when you're picking fights with people, make sure you're picking them with the people that you disagree with on a value level, you know, if you're talking of I mean we're talking about like Republicans and Trump and and Kanye, like those are pretty big targets and and and rightfully so, you know, and deserving of it. So I just think about it

in terms like that. It doesn't limit my personality or make me you know, I mean, we can all be kinder and gentler, but it's not going to take away my pizzaz or whatever the funk it is, you know, my ability to call somebody out when they're acting like an idiot, a or an asshole. And there are also a varying degrees of ways to say those things, you know, right right there, there definitely are varying ways to say things. You know, I choose my persona. It doesn't allow me.

I'm not gonna play Kate and be delicate with these with these people, you know, especially when it's coming at the Jews. Because also I have such a um. I don't like the stereotypes, particularly in show business of Jewish men. You know, I do not like them. They're they're perpetuated. That's part of who I am, It's part of who my family is. But I feel like that's all we get to see for the most part with Jewish men,

and I don't like that. I don't like that. Well, I mean, I think those are two separate issues, you know. I mean, I think does yeah. I just think listen, nobody wants to be discriminated against, and nobody wants to be, you know, be told. That's just like human decency, like we should evolve, right, we should understand that that's not

a pleasant feeling. And I think that, you know, real comedy comes from self deprecation, like when you're starting out with yourself, then you can have more leeway to go after other people, because you have to be an egalitarian about it, right, and we just can't just hand pick certain groups, or I mean the Jewish thing, the conversation, I mean, we're talking about a couple of different things here,

but people not standing up for Jewish people. I think you kind of touched upon which I think a lot of people assume that Jewish people can take care of themselves, which is not helpful and it's a falsehood. It's like, if you're gonna stand up for BLM. I also read this woman's post yesterday who was saying she was so pissed that all these white people were going up talking about standing up for Jews, yet where were they for BLM? And I'm like, well, wait a second, I was. We

were all right there. What are you talking about? I mean, not all of us, but I know I was. I know you were. I know you were. So it's an unfortunate conversation to constantly have. But I don't think we're going to move past it until we just get it right. We keep rehashing it and rehashing it, and then then there's all this resistance to it, and it's like, cool, well this is limiting my behavior, like your personality or your persona, which I would argue is your personality. It's

not a persona, that's who you are. You're not a discriminatory guy. So I don't think that you have that much to worry about, you know what I mean, You're not coming from some nasty place. You're not on bright Bard if that's still up and running hopefully not. You know, I don't I don't look at you like, oh, you're gonna have to watch what you say. And I don't think I have to watch what I say because I'm

not a fucking idiot. You know, I know better, Like when you know better, you do better, as Oprah says. But it's true. It's like, oh, we're all educated on it now, you know, Like let's just behave in a little bit more mindful way, especially with the ship that's going on. I like to put out good vibes, but I'm not going to be soft ever. I'm always going to be a cunt, like that's part of my DNA, Right, I got you. That's good. I like that. I mean, this whole episode was all over the shop. I think

you know what I mean. We had calls that we're making sense, predicaments that aren't making sense, conversations that are circular, but whatever. I mean, it's a good fucking day at work. Then isn't it just to be more confused than when we started? We didn't solve anything today. This is a hot mess. But I love you, Michael Rappaport. I love you. You're entertaining. You entertaining. That's my booklyn accent. You're entertaining.

And everybody needs to follow Michael on Instagram. Is it at Michael Rappaport or the Michael map at Michael And also you have a new podcast coming out right, Yeah, well it's not new, but yeah, the IMP stereo podcast, okay on iHeart, right on iHeart. Yeah, I love doing it and it's, uh, it's a lot of fun. I love doing it. We've been doing it for a while now and it's it's a good time. Okay. So he has a podcast it's called I Am Rappaport Stereo podcast

that you can find that on I Heart. He's also on tour doing live shows and all tickets and dates are available at Michael Rappaport Comedy dot com. So follow him on Instagram, go buy tickets to his show. I'd like to see you perform live. That would be funny. Maybe anyways, meet in person? Oh yeah, yeah, we'll have to meet in person. I'll go look at your dates and see if you're gonna be around wherever I'm gonna be around. You're touring now to right, Yeah, I'm wrapping

up my tour so I'm just doing the weekends. Oh good? Are you having fun? I am? I am? I mean, I'm excited to take a break from stand up after this. I'm just doing the last like I think I have like twenty dates left. So yeah, I always have fun on the road. I mean it's nice. You know. Now I have to come up with a new hour because I just shot my special and so yeah, now I'll use these dates to come up with new materials. So I'm like, fuck, I don't have time to be writing

fucking material. I mean I do, but I'm not writing it. So I've got to just really start thinking that's cool. Okay, I can't wait to hear it. All right, Well, I'll see you soon, Michael. Thanks so much anytime. I appreciate it. This was fun you guys, and thank you for having you guys, and hopefully we will meet in real life soon. Okay, sounds good. Thanks by. So I'm winding up my stand up tour. Vaccinated and Horning is coming to a screeching

halt at the end of the year. I have my last dates coming up, and these are the last opportunities. You have to also buy merch from the website Chelsea Handler dot com if you want Vaccinating and Horning merch or Captain's hats. Let's say we're the Captain's now for women only. Our t shirts for men and your family that say I'm sorry because they should be I only

have a few dates left. I'm going to Rockford, Illinois, Minneapolis, Rosemont, Illinois to show in Tampa, a show in Fort Myers, Florida, Daytona Beach, Hollywood, Florida, Concord, New Hampshire, Wooster, Mass wilkes Berry, Pennsylvania, Wilke's Berry, Pennsylvania. There I said it, and then San Diego and Riverside, California, and then Baltimore, Maryland, and then my very last day is December six in Reading, Pennsylvania. If you are enjoying what you're hearing, you can subscribe

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