Everyone’s a Little Bit Bi with Bretman Rock

And my place in Whistler, I had these chocolate mushrooms that I supplied the entire mountain probably b C British Columbia with last year when I was in Whistler, and then when I left, I left everything there and so this year when I was going through my things, I found them and I have been taking like the tiniest, like a half of a half of square every day because now that I know more about micro dosing, like I don't like the rush of the feeling, but I like the up of the feeling. I have to say,

like I've found a perfect dose. Is this that the chocolate mushrooms? These are chocolate mushrooms now and Whistler everyone has capsules. They give you fifty milligrams or a hundred milligrams or two hundred and fifty milligrams, which are also just like they don't make you hallucinate. They just give you an up and it's almost imperceptible, and it's nice

and it's great if you're outside to nature these. So I took a little one a few days ago just to see because I was like, oh, you know, when you're not acclimated, you know, you can have bigger reactions. And I don't like that whoosh feeling that sometimes comes on with mushrooms, where you're like yawning and it's very overwhelming and you almost nauseated slightly. Anyway, I think I found the perfect dosage, and I gave some to Joe Koy,

who's never done mushrooms, but somebody had given to him. Well, he doesn't need an upper you know what I mean. He somebody gave it to gave them to him in Canada, and he we were falling asleep. We had played pickleball and we were falling asleep that night and he was He's like, honey, you's just so funny. Everything you say is so funny. And I was like, uh huh huh, and he goes, I just can't stop smiling every time I think of you. I'm like, oh my god, honey,

those are mushrooms. That's what you're feeling. That was not a micro dose, that's a dose. And he's like, is that what it is, I go, yes, go into beds with a smile on your face is mushrooms. So I just want everyone to know that you also can go to his bed with a smile on your face if you get yourself some mushrooms too. I've never done mushrooms. That's very hard for me to believe. Really, do I seem like a person who's like out in the world.

I think that you've experimented with drugs I have. Well, let me tell you, I am also like not a very good weed smoker. The first time I ever smoked weed, it was great. I had a fun time. The second time I ever smoked weed, I had the worst time ever. It was in Indiana. It was like maybe laced with something like hallucinations voices. It was terrible. That definitely sounds like it was laced with something. Yeah, so I didn't

touch it for the longest time. And I can really only do it when like my set and setting are very specific, like I feel very safe. But I also just find like I don't love the feeling of being high. I don't love the feeling of like the time distortion, but I do just like and this is advice I got from you from working on this show, but just doing tiny, tiny doses like I find even one or two and a half my MiGs is like my sweet spot,

where it's just a little twinkle, like you don't feel high. Yes, So that's good that you found that out about yourself and that you didn't shy away from it, because there is a right amount for everybody, and some people's sometimes

Like yesterday, I had a day off unexpectedly. I was thought I was working all day and I had the day off, and so I had a fun day and I took two edibles at around three o'clock, got into bed and watched a bunch of TV, which is basically my favorite thing to do in the whole world, is to lie in bed and watch TV, especially if there's something good. I love it. I love it. I got that from my mom. My mom used to lie in

bed all the time. And then when I was seeing my therapist, he's like, your mom sounds like she was depressed. I'm like, well, then I'm fucking depressed too, because I've got the same sleeping gene. I just want to be snuggling all the time. And you're on the ghost so much. I'm sure that it's like, yeah, but I haven't, and I haven't inordinate or disproportionate desire to to be in bed Like it's just two. It's outweighs everything else I'd

like to be doing. So yes, I can have a very busy life, but I have no problem chilling the funk out. Good, very good. Well, I have a follow up from someone who has taken your advice, Chelsea. This is from Christina and she joined us on our episode with Taylor Tomlinson Comics, stating comics, she was the one with the boyfriend who her friend thought he was a deadbeat. But she's a lawyer and she needed to talk to her friend about how she's really into this guy. She says,

Dear Chelsea, I have a little update. I talked to my friend and we had a really honest conversation. She admitted that she did want me to break up with my boyfriend, but mostly it was because she feared I wasn't just settling for him, I was settling in life. Side story. In law school, I interned at the A C. L U and my school's environmental law clinic. I wrote a published piece on racial discrimination post nine eleven, Like

this woman does everything. She's wonderful. Suffice it to say, I really care about social justice and have much bigger dreams than my current corporate job. I'd love to take a job doing something I care about, but those are scarce in Miami. My boyfriend has always said he'd never leave Miami. She said she really believes in me and thinks I can do so much more than just live

in Miami with my boyfriend forever. And I explained to her, I understand I have my own fears about waking up in twenty years with regret, but for now, I have no idea what life has in store, and I'm still hopeful I won't have to compromise my dreams or my relationship. Maybe it's cocky, but I'm really shooting to have it all. So I made it clear we're not breaking up anytime soon,

and asked that she please respect my decision. She seemed a little disappointed but understanding, and so far our friendship is as strong as ever, minus the verbal subtweets. Thanks so much for your advice, and I cannot wait to see you. And you're vaccinated and horny tour. Oh good, that's good, good, great? Good for her? Yeah, yeah, I'm comfortable. Conversations are worth having. Yeah, and especially if you know the friend is somebody who can handle that conversation, then

you know they're are there to stick around. Yeah. And also the truth brings you together, Like saying that she wanted you to break up with him is truthful, and that's not easy to say either. So like it's good that she was honest, and it's good that you were honest. Yeah. Absolutely, Well, we have a really exciting guest today. Oh yeah, he's an internet sensation, you guys. Oh my god, Annie's Filipinos. So you know that I love Filipinos, you guys, if

you don't follow this guy on Instagram or TikTok. He is an Asian American digital superstar known for his unique sense of comedy, gender bending fashion, and creating the new standard of male beauty that is followed by over forty five million fans globally. He has comedy, fashion and beauty

sensation bretman Rock. He has his own TV series on MTV It's called brettman Rock, and his YouTube originals limited series Thirty Days with brettman Rock, which showcases him digging deeper into his spirituality while alone and off the grid in the jungle. Please welcome. This will nugget Bretman rock Bretman. Oh my god, let me see that hot little body. Why are you hiding it from us? This is Katherine Katherin's and my producer. Hi, miss Katherine. I love the

purple hair. Thank you. It's nice to meet you. Brettman. The last time that you and I spoke. Are you good? Are you ready? Yes? I needed some lighting, you know, honey, I of course you need. By the way, Brettman's pronouns are he, she and they, so you can just call him her, they whatever, right. Whatever you see, honestly, that's what I say. Whatever you see is what you can call me. Well, what I see is a fantast magoria of light and energy. That's what I see when I

look at you. Thank you. I am a divine creature. Thank you. First of all, I'm Pennie. Now did you know that? I know? I was like, we have so much things in common. Now you're like Feltena on these days thanks to the power of semen. Honestly tell me about it. Also, I did not know you guys were dating. For the longest. I thought you guys were just like best these for a while because you guys were just like making videos and I was like, Miss Joe and

Miss Chelsea's really hang out and he loves joke. By the way, I was there. I don't know if he's told you, but he had like the nine sold out shows back to back to back. I didn't even get a ticket, but my mom wanted to go, Well, we're gonna hang out with you when we come in July. I'm there July three and fourth and Maui and then Oahu, aren't you on Oahu? I'm on Oahu. Wait did he name his book Mixed Plate because of his experience and eat or what? Because I have a theory that it's

because he ate at zippies. I ate at zippies, yes, and like all of the food and zippies are like all mixed plate food. So I was like, m he probably ate at zippies. Well, we came. We came the last time he was playing the Blaisdell Arena. The last time we were here. We came for Thanksgiving, and so I was there for like literally two and a half days. Otherwise we would have been looking for you. But in those two and a half days, I ate more mayonnaise

than I've eaten in forty five years. Because in Hawaii they put mayonnaise on everything. Everything mayonnaise, and sometimes we do the mayonnaise catchup mix, you know, like the cute little hot pink color. We put that on everything too. Is there a name for that? Is that Russian dressing? Mayonnaise and catchup? I don't know what we call it, but I am the mayonnaise that I think you're like,

do you like the mayonnaise here? Well, I just don't need that much mayonnaise really on anything, because I think we use like more like the Japanese mayonnaise instead of like the Yeah, it's like an a oli, isn't it like an aoli sauce kind of thing like calamari. Yeah, comes like a soup more so than a dish. But whatever. You know, if I'm going to transition into being a Filipina and being Hawaiian, I'm just gonna have to accept all of these things and let my body just do

its thing. Yeah. Also, we're both like playboy models now, Miss Chausey. I don't know if you saw that, but I saw that. I saw that. That was a dream come true for you. Recently, right was? And then I saw your Christmas one that you posted like a while back, and I was like, she really coming for my gig first, and now she wants to be a big model. I've always been coming for you, Bretman. Bretman and I first met.

We did this like makeup collaboration for something a few years ago, and Bretman showed up to the set and was one hot mess. And I this is from the Queen of hot messes. Okay, okay, first of all, let me explain myself. My my first manages told me about that deal. I was like, what is me and going to talk about? So she was like, oh, you know, you guys have so many things in common. You guys are both funny, and you guys smoke weeds. So I was like, I'm gonna go high. So I took a

fat red before I came and that was that. So I was, Yes, I was a mess, and I'm so sorry. No, I know it wasn't. It wasn't a shoot that required us to be anything less than a mess. To be honest with you, we had to be a mess, but cover it up. Yeah, exactly. He did my makeup. I think I tried to do his anyway. No, Remember you were like mad at me because I think, like last minute, I was like, I don't think I could do her makeup today, So I ended up like having to teach

you how to do it. Oh yeah, you couldn't apply it yourself. Why was that? Because I low key don't know how to do other people's makeup, Like I know how to do my face, but like, I feel like if I did your makeup, you would have just looked like me, which I mean, that's not really a problem with that, but um, I didn't want you look like a Bremen rock. So that I think it's because I know how my face is shaped, and like we obviously have different face shapes and we do like an egg.

What's going on with you these days? How's your love life? Is there anything happening in that department? Let me, mother tell you? Tell me why I'm I want to go see a spiritual healer, and I know if you believe in that shack. And she was telling me all these things about like my grandma because she was kind of like my spiritual guide growing up. I grew up very spiritual, and I was feeling off, so I went to go see a Native American and woman who does like all

these practices. And at the end, she was like, are you seeing anybody right now? And I was like, nos this and she goes, I think there's somebody that like hecks you. And when she said that, it clicked to me. It was my ax because he practiced that stuff and he would always joke around and be like, if you ever leave me, I'll make sure you'll never find anybody again. And at the time I was just like ha ha, oh my god, that's so funny, like you're so goofy,

but that this really hecks me. And now I have a hard time like connecting with men, and like every time like men flirted with me, like it's hard for me to like distinguished now, like my assistant literally has to be like right, he was hitting on you. It's hard for me like see that. Now, every time I get close to somebody, I always feel like I'm cheating on somebody. So I always like ghost boys just for an ed reason. And I and when she said that, I was hex I was like, oh my god, it's

him doing that. So yeah, that's the update on my love life. So was that person able to remove the hecks I start, I was like, how do we get rid of this? What fun? And then she was like, I think your grandma is strong enough, and I really feel like your grandma let it happen. And when she said that, it also clicked in my head that like, after I got dumped Miss Chelsea, my life turned upside down, Like I grew out my hair. I looked like more like Breman Rock more than I've ever did in my

whole entire life. And I feel like I needed that ship to happen to finally step into who I was meant to be. And like ever since then, I had like my MTV show My Playboy, like back to back cover. It's like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. I don't mean to be like bragging about myself. Really like I went through all that show I've been to go for a whole year just so that I could focus myself. And she said that your grandma. If your grandma did not want you to go through it, she would have

blocked it off. And she said that I had to go through it, and I think I had to because I found who I really was, I think, and I'm more confident than of who myself in my career than ever before. So yeah, that's a great feeling, isn't it to feel self assured and confident in who you are? Yeah? I think I really at the end of the day, I really just had to fall in love with myself, and I think that's what happened. I fell in love

with Remen Rock. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting you say that because a lot of people think that you have to fall in love with yourself physically. You know, they're not looking at the internal and like, you actually have to fall in love with your personality and your emotionality, Like you have to fall in love with you who you are,

not just the way you look. And especially in the world that we're in or in the social media and everything, everyone kind of gets reduced down to the way they look and how good they look for how old they are or whatever. Well more for me than for you, since you're like eight months old. But I like that that you took a break and you kind of stepped into your own power because I think that's a typical

situational circumstance. When you get out of a relationship, you start to look at yourself in a different way, and it's a huge growth experience, right when you break up and you're on your own, and he was like my first love. I swore I was gonna marry him. People calling me eight times, I ran back eight. It got to a point where, like, literally the seven time you broke up with me that one month, I literally was,

I don't even pray mitelca, I don't pray. And I was like to please God, like, please leave me already, because I could not. I don't know why, but I could not have the willpower to like break up with somebody after like chasing them eight times. So it got to a point where I was like, please, whoever is listening up there, please tell him to leave me. Yeah, seven,

seven or eight times? If going back, I call that recidivism where you are performing the same wrong thing you've done so many times, then yeah, I think after you break up with somebody twice and you get back together, that's a rap. We should have like term limits on all of these things, just for younger people coming into it, because it's like there's no healthy relationship where you're breaking

up five or six times and getting back together. No one's ever gonna be like this is gonna work out what about therapy, breatman, do you go to any therapists? I go to the physical therapy because I injured my shoulder the other months. Yeah, that's not the same fucking thing. I know. I know, I struggle finding the courage to

go see a therapist, Miss Chelsea. I do, I genuinely do, and I think it's because I was traumatized from like early years when I did see like a therapist like that didn't know how to deal with like kids, especially like growing up with like an Asian mom who joking probably said something similar to like some Asian moms truly do not believe in mental health, like not even Asian moms, like foreign moms, like they think that we're just like

being dramatic. Like even when I told my mom, like I was telling her about my anxiety and how I have social anxiety, and she was like, girl, you're just being dramatic, like you're like she didn't say that, but in my language she did. So I think for like a while, I also like didn't take my mental health seriously because my mom convinced me that it was like all in my head, and that's what it is. It is all in my head. But them, Yeah, I am, I am. I really am building the courage to go

see a therapist. I texted my manager like last month, I was like, I think this is the year that I need to see a therapist because even if it if even if it isn't for Bretman, I need to see a therapist for Bretman Rock because fame is not fun. So tell, let's talk about your fame. Let's how are you handling being famous? I think I don't like to call myself a child star, but it kind of is, because, like I started this journey when I was in high school.

I was a sophomore, and so a lot of like my audience like grew up with me, and so I also grew up with fame and like handling fame. But also at the same time, I live in haw VIII and so you know, a population of four people, So like it's hard for me to like feel famous in how VII when like really like everyone that wants to meet you here, I've already met you when you were like in high school. Everyone here has made me like three or four or five times already. It's like, oh,

it's just Bretman. But I truly only feel fame when I'm in l A. And that's why I think I hate l A because LA reminds me of work, and that's why I thrived, because it doesn't have the pressure of like faith. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, Well, Joe and I are spending like our winters and Whistler and I love to get out of l A to go to Whistler because it's just a completely It's all about nature, it's all about skiing, it's all about being outside.

If you're not skiing, you're doing something else physical. No one gives a ship about Hollywood. No one's talking about that. No one's stopping me to say I need a picture. They just all know that I'm there and that's the way it's going to be. But it's Whistler in Canada. Yes, it is a bit. I have a story about getting into Canada, but continue. But I I think that, Yeah, a lot of artists and creators like to be away from the hustle of it, like being in l A

all the time. It's just not a healthy situation. I know. For me, I need a time out all the time. And I like being on the road because one of the reasons I love being on the road and being on tour is to be out of l A because you just I don't like to be competitive and I don't like to look around too much. And when I'm in l A, I noticed that about myself more exactly. So, um, yeah, that's kind of like me too. And what's up with your sister? How's she doing? Girl? How is she not doing? Honestly,

the day my sister is something. Um, she's also on her focusing on myself era right now because she just got on vote relationship. We're raising our two kids, and yeah, we're getting back to our regular scheduling with like YouTube videos and stuff like that. I actually wanted to ask you about, like podcasts. That's something that we wanted to do, Like is this fun? Oh yeah. First of all, you can do it wherever the funk you want to, So

that's a number one. You can do that right there where you're sitting, and you could do it with somebody you love to talk to. All you have to do is shoot the ship. That's so easy, right, Yeah, it I feel like it's more simpler than the YouTube video. I feel like, even just now, I feel like I didn't even know we started when we started. But like, but with YouTube, it's like, oh my gosh, you have

to kind of follow like a story. Let's talk about this now, it's talk about this now, or I mean a lot of people don't even have guests on their podcast, Like you and your sister could just hang out and talk and have guests when you feel like it, because that way, you're just shooting the ship and you don't have to have like an A, B and C cut it up in any way. Because people do love to hear you talk. It's just more of you to give people. So it's an easy thing to deliver. And I would say, yeah,

go for a podcast. It's another way to just gain more people listening to you talking to you, and it all feeds the other things, like it feeds the YouTube. The YouTube feeds the podcast. And I also, I am so tired of getting ready for you to I got ready today and I just half when I was like halfway done doing my makeup, I was like, wait, isn't just it isn't it just our voice? Like why am I getting ready? So yeah, I feel like with podcasts, I don't have to get ready anymore. I could just

show up right. Yeah, Well everything now is online, so it doesn't matter even though a podcast, Like I thought podcasts weren't makeup and hair, and now podcasts are. They post them there on YouTube you can have them, so it's like it's basically a television all over again. It called a podcast. Yeah, you look beautiful, by the way, your makeup is amazing, Like you do have a really great knack for not for white women obviously because he tried that on me, but you do have a great

hand at makeup. I mean, look how beautiful he looks. Thank you, Thank you so much. That's so sweet. I just grew up with too many women in my life, I feel. And I grew up watching our version of super Bowl, which is in this universe in the Philippines. We treat that ship like a super Bowl, and I just grew up like in awe of hair and makeup and like watching these women in their heels and like bikinis and gowns. And I just grew up watching that

and I wanted to be those women. And like the third world country girls are always winning this universe because we got the face. Yeah, you know the bone structure. Yeah, why don't we get you're not kidding? Why don't we get you into MRS Universe. That was actually my first gig, and that was actually when I really I need to I'm not an interviewer. My first gig ever was I was sixteen years old. They did Miss Universe in the Philippines and I hosted the red carpet thing, and that's

when I realized I cannot help. I truly do not give a funk about other people, Like I cannot sit there and pretend like I care what you're wearing. Um, so, yeah, I did Miss Universe, but I need to be a contestant honestly, or like a judge. Now that's what I'm talking about, not the Red carpet. You need to be competing or a judge. Well no, I still you need to maybe after you win, but you need to be in the MISSRS Universe's pageant. Why not, right? I I feel like I would be really good at the Q

and A portion and the bikini portion. Yeah yeah, anything, Well that's yeah, well we'll see about that. I have. Is that the thing that Donald Trump brons or is that Miss America? Trust me, I looked it up. I made sure I made sure that bitch was not running it. When I posted the red carpet because I'm not having that, bitch, So I my check. No, don't worry. He wouldn't sign it anyway. He host like, how do I owe fucking

money for doing this? So Brettman on this podcast, we have callers and people who write in for advice about life, and so yeah, so we're gonna take some callers and Catherine's gonna read us some emails, and we're just going to give off advice of what we think how they should handle the situation. Okay, I feel like my first advice would probably be don't take my advice. Okay, well, no, noted. We'll keep that in there so that everyone is aware not to take Brettman's advice. Thank you. I will say

advice though. Okay, good. Well we'll take a quick break and we'll be back with some emails and calls to the commercial. And we're back from break. Brettman just took a quick shower. You took a shower, right, Brettan you guys, I actually needed an outfit change, so thank you for letting me change. Okay, well, it looks like you're wearing the same exact thing, so it's all very suspicious. Well, our first email comes from be subject line is a

little slash big problem. Dear Chelsea. I recently went on a few dates with this guy who checks all the boxes except for one thing. He told me he has a problem getting it up. He's thirty. I asked if he takes anything for it, and he said nothing works. That's a huge problem because a healthy sex life is a very important part of a relationship. To me, I don't want to be the one to quote help him fix it because I think I'm way too young to

have to deal with this issue. I'm seven. I think there are so many other men in this world that it's maybe just onto the next one. But I really like him. Thoughts b m M, I have so many questions with Chelsea. Would you like to go first? Now?

Why don't you go for ast Bretman Ladies first? Well, that kind of like, honestly, when you were reading it, it kind of just brought me back to Honestly, I had a whole flashback, like whole Raven Stamoe moment when I used to have a daddy at one point once up one a time and he was house so like in his thirties, and I wouldn't say he had a hard time like getting it up, but he would always be like, you have to squeeze it. So I would say, have you tried squeezing it really hard? That's okay, Well

there you go. Uh So, squeeze his dick as hard as you can and see what happens. And if nothing happens, then you have your answer and you can stop dating him. Yeah. Yeah, But also, do you believe in like those like aphrodisiacs and stuff like that. I'm very Filipino and we have a lot of those ships. There's this one shot where like it's an alcohol shot and there's like a rattlesnake inside and I guess it's they believe that it has

like afrodiziac components or whatever the funk. So if you struggle like getting it up, I recommend getting a shot of the Cobra liquor. Yeah. Okay, So those are two great options for solutions. The other thing you can do is like you can make a small amount of effort to try and help him with his problem, like you know, finding a sex therapyst. I'm sure that he hasn't really sat down and run through all the options of what might because there's there's something for everybody, there's an antidote

for everything. And you already said you're not going to marry the guy, so it's okay for you to walk away, but you can put in a little effort towards trying to figure out what might help his situation, And then I would agree with you, like only if you really like him, I would agree that there are too many men out there, if that is such an important thing to you, which it is to me, Like I need

to get fucked too. I like sex, Yes, all the time, Whenever I want it, I want it so like I get that if if this won't work for you, it won't work for you. But if you want to try and make a little bit more of an effort, sit with a sex therapist, see if she has anything interesting to say to him that he has never heard before, or he can go on his own whatever. And then if that doesn't work, because it could be something that

he hasn't tried, that he hasn't even thought about. There's so much shame behind people when they can't perform sexually, shame on both ends. You know, It's like it's shameful for a girl when I've been around so many guys who can't get it up, you know, due to my personality, and I always blame myself. Like there was a period where I thought something was seriously wrong with my vagina, Like I had my friends look at it, I had them smell it. I was like, it's something off here

because I need to know. And no, it had nothing to do with you. Would you You're not, you know, struggling with but yeah, if that's important to you, then you know that doesn't sound like you're guy. So end of story there. Yeah, And I have odd things fell trying men, you know, t him trying men. Oh, tell him to try a man, Yeah, I mean yeah, and I all things fail. We can give him Bretman's give him Bret Fan's direct line. Yeah, and so he could

just get in touch with him right away. Would you like to get your dick squeezed in Hawaii because we have the perfect handidate. Yes, thank you, thanks, yes, Well. Our next question comes from D. And I didn't put those next to each other on purpose, but this is D. She's on the phone with us as well. She says, dear chill, see, my boyfriend of seven years will not propose to me. We've had many conversations about it. We've both said out loud that we want to get married.

He treats me incredibly well, and we're best friends and very much in love. However, I feel like I'm watching him prioritize other pleasures before our future together. For example, he has a monthly marijuana bill that he won't give up and recently bought a PS five. Understandable, He's always been able to be present despite these indulgences, and I never want to criticize his lifestyle, especially when I thought

there was room for an engagement too. I thought that the proposal process might be intimidating to him, so I tried to take the pressure off and suggested we get engaged as a team, pick out rings together and celebrate. He insisted that isn't the way it's supposed to be. He told me to email him styles of rings I like, so I did. The first time I thought he might pop the question was in October, when he took an overnight trip to a comedy show in Detroit. It didn't happen.

I didn't realize how much a proposal disappointment would funk with my head. It was brutal, but I kept my cool. Then when we exchanged Christmas gifts, the big gift I received was a speaker system for our TV, and I don't know why he thought a soundbar and subwiffer was a gift I would ever want or need. How do I stay calm and centered about this? And what the hell more can I say to convey how I'm feeling about this to him? One more dashed proposal may take

a serious toll on my mental health. D Hi, d Hi, d h hi d This is Brettman and Catherine. We're all here for you today. Hello, it's so great to be speaking with you all. I okay, so you want to get married? Yes? So yeah. I was very angry when I wrote in, but somehow I did not completely go off on him. We got through the holidays together, and I sat down with him and I just said,

really blatantly, I am ready to be engaged. I don't see why we can't be engaged at this point, and and I did suggest once again to just do it together, like it doesn't have to all fall on his shoulders. His response was he just had some car troubles and he didn't want to propose over the holidays because we're really busy. And his words where it will happen soon enough, to which I replied, soon enough is not going to work for me. So um, oh no, it's it's okay.

So I said that wasn't gonna work for me. I really need to know that it's like a priority for you as much as it is for me. So he said no, seriously, like it's a priority now, it's going to happen soon, I promised, And after talking to him, like he's never said that much information about this topic before. So I did feel a lot better at that point. Okay, And how are you feeling now? Now I'm feeling good.

I think I just need him to know. And I did say this when you think a proposal is coming up and then like special dates happened and you go on a trip or something like you think it's going to happen, and so I just it's a real mind fuck, Like I was stunned by how much it impacted like my mental state. Right, Okay, So is there a timeline where if he doesn't propose, you're done. No, I didn't make it like an ultimatum thing, like I was really scared to bring it up to be honest, because I

don't want to sound like some kind of pressuring nag. Yeah, no, I mean it sounds like he's going to propose to you. I mean, and he hasn't said that much yet, right thus far, he thought was the most he said about it, right, the most committed he's been about it. Yes, like we've talked about marriage of course, like it wasn't really a question of what there it would happen or not, but he always like laughed it off before if it was brought up like that was the first time that we

had a serious conversation about it. I don't know if it's like because of the element of surprise that we never talked about it more in a less ambiguous way. But if I brought it up before, it was like kind of laughed off by him or just subject changed. So that there's progress. Right in that conversation, it sounds like there is her husban. Yes, that was the best conversation we've probably had about it so far. And when

was that? That was right around the holidays? Okay, Well, I think it sounds like it's going in the direction you want you. I just think you need to like relax a little bit. Your timeline isn't his timeline. You're not and you don't have you don't need to be on a timeline. You're young. You know, like it's a matter of months. I think we're talking about at this point. You know, if six months goes by and he doesn't propose, then yeah, then you need to give him an ultimatum.

But I think what you said was perfect. The way you put it, like this is a priority for me, and not giving him an ultimatum is really good. You know that was strong. You made yourself be heard. He understands. I don't think him buying a ps what is it called, brettan a ps PS six is going to interfere that much. I think five. I'm sorry, I'm not straight, So he doesn't know. He doesn't know. Bretman, what are your thoughts

on this topic of marriage. I'm kind of just like thinking about where how he values marriage, because for me, I come from like a very traumatizing marriage of like parents, and so the way I see marriage is different from other people. I'm also at the age where like all of my friends are getting engaged and they're so excited about it, and it's like everything they ever like think

of it. I'm just like, oh my gosh, if I ever got engaged, I feel like I would say no, Like I I don't know, marriage to me kind of scares me sometimes. So it's it's so cool to see like that you're so excited for it, because I think my parents will went marriage from me. So I almost want to ask you, like if he had bad experiences like with marriage, and if that's why he's kind of like scared to get engaged, or even the idea of getting engaged, like probably scared him. I don't. I don't know.

We don't know where his mind's at. I think that's a really good point. I mean, we both come from divorced parents, so that definitely could be impacting him. I also wondered too, if again, the conversation was so ambiguous before. I wonder if I was more straightforward like earlier on like maybe we would be engaged right now. But I

totally hear what you're saying. I think though, that you were you listen, it doesn't matter what you did before, Like, don't blame yourself for this, Like you're playing in reverse and future instead of playing in the present. You put it out there with integrity. You said what you did without whining, or you said it like, Okay, this is what's important to me and you've got to level up,

and that is really dignified. So enjoy the moment that you're in, let him come to you, and have it just a time period in your mind that is that's not going to be work for you anymore. You know, if it gets past, say six months, and you want to say, listen, I told you what I needed. You didn't listen, And now we have to talk about like what what we're doing? Are we breaking up? Are we going to stay together? Because my future this is what I want. I mean, are you willing to break up

with him if he doesn't want to marry you? Is that something? I mean? In the grand scheme of things, it's a really good relationship. I wouldn't go so far as to say that right now, but it feels like I know him really well. So now that we talked like it, it feels like I know that it's coming, whereas before I could tell that it wasn't coming. And yeah, I mean again, it's a good relationship, So I don't I don't think I would go so far as to say that. Now. Okay, okay, well you've got all that,

You've done everything you can possibly do. You just have to let it go and let it happen. Let him come to you. I bet you he's going to do something really, really special for your engagement. And I bet you're gonna look back at all of the times where you were upset. Who wants to get proposed to? And fuck Detroit? I mean, what are you talking about? You know, a comedy club in Detroit. That's not the right time for him to propose to you. Maybe he's also waiting

to take you on Chelsea's comedy tour. That's where you get proposed, That's where you get engaged. Oh my goodness, that would be such a thrill and it'd be such a full circle thing. And I I only let gay people get engaged at my shows, so we're very discriminatory at my shows. But you know what I mean, like your ideas and his ideas, your two separate personalities. I tell Joe this all the time, because Joe has a

completely different person and he doesn't understand why. Like I don't get excited about anything, He'll be like he gets excited to wake up in the morning and I'm like, pipe down, you know, and he doesn't, and I always have to go Joe, I'm not you. I don't think like about you know. I could say a two walk in the morning, let's go, I want to go ice skating. He'll be like, let's go. Like I will never have

that reaction for him. If he says let's go ice skating at two in the morning, I'll say, fuck you, like I'm not going ice skating. But you have to remind yourself you're two different people. You have two different outlooks. You know, your outlook is not his, your imprint is not his, and your life experiences are not his. So let him come to this. You've made yourself very clear

it's gonna happen. Everything's gonna work out, And just be proud of the way that you conducted yourself and don't stop around and don't do anything else until it does happen. You know, don't have the expectations even if you go away for a night, don't put that in there. Just remember what you just told me. This is a really good relationship. Enjoy being in it because so many people don't have that. Yeah, And also I would say communicate at about stuff before it's like, oh my god, I'm

going out of my mind about this. Like bring it up early, get it out there, start talking about it. And also tell him that a subwoffer is not what you would have wanted to tell him. He needs to get you gifts for you, not gifts they wants themselves. Yeah. Men are so fucking stupid with gifts. I mean honestly. I mean my driver bought his wife a blender for their fiftieth anniversary. I had to take it away from him. Yeah.

I had to go in. I had to get jewelry out of my jewelry and say, give this to her. This is ridiculous. You're gonna give her a fucking blender. Yeah, No, it wasn't. Okay if I wouldn't know a blend tech if I hopped inside it and spun around myself. But I'm assuming it wasn't because Billy just doesn't know what he's doing. But d you also just have to remember one other thing. This is a great thing to remember

to like use this experience moving forward. When you guys do get married and you start a family or whatever your dreams are, remember this because you had expectations. You weren't sharing with him, and then you did, and you feel a lot differently now. So yeah, use this as a guide for your further communication in the future of this relationship. Absolutely, and that makes a lot of sense. Yeah,

and let us know what happens. Keep us posted, okay, yeah, oh yes, I will definitely let you know when it happens. I'll send the cliche I said, yes, and then we could have Brettan officiate the wedding. It'll be like it'll be a slam dunk. No, you said, finally not yet. I love that. Thanks so much. Do we wish you a big surprise when it finally happens. So much for having me on. I really admire your work, Chelsea. You're welcome. De nice to speak with you. Nice to speak with you.

I Chelsea, you are so good at these advices the way I would have been like um been proposed to him. Oh yeah, Well, most people are just calling in because they just need comfort, right, don't you think? I think so. They just want someone to tell them that it's going to happen. Do you know how many times when something went wrong with the guy that I was dating, or someone didn't call me, or I hooked up with a

guy and didn't hear from him. I would go around the world and so I got every answer that I wanted, which who was from people who had nothing to do with my experience. You know, like those experience where you'd give somebody your number and then and then you're talking to your girlfriends like maybe he lost it. Maybe maybe he died on a bicycle accident on the way home from our day. Maybe he's dead. It's like, no, no,

he's not fucking calling you because he's not interested. Stop creating bullshit around basic fundamentals, and then you just picked the answer that you like, right exactly. Well. Our next question comes from Sarah. Sarah says, Dear Chelsea, I'm thirty years old and have been with my boyfriend for four years. We met working at a restaurant when we were in our teens, ran it together along with our friends until We've had our ups and downs, just like any other couple.

But I know he's my person and we both feel that on a soul level. I recently back to school for massage therapy and started working at a local coffee shop for a flexible, easy job to get me through It's been great so far, but I'm the oldest employee. All the other girls are late teens or early twenties.

The other day, a co worker asked if I was by I wasn't offended or anything, as I know I give off that vibe, but I nonchalantly said no. She stared at me a while asked if I was sure because her and another employee's gaidar went off when I first started, and they wanted to ask me about it. They think that I have unlocked potential. I don't, though

I don't consider myself anything but straight. It's not like I've never been attracted to women, but I've never experimented before, and it's not something I could fathom inside my current relationship. My boyfriend and I have talked about it in the past, but we're both uncomfortable inviting another person into our sex life. I'd be super jealous, and so would he. We both have anxiety, and I think I'd be excited but freak out when it came time to get down to business.

Neither of us want to share each other. Even in the situation. He gave me a whole pass of sorts to experiment on my own. I feel as if I was cheating. I do watch girl on girl porn sometimes, but it's always when he's not around. He knows and doesn't seem bothered by it. My question is this, are these young whipper snappers right? Even though I don't feel I identify at all with being by there is something there.

It's just not something I can explore. While in my current relationship, and while we aren't married, we planned to be together for the long haul. I can't imagine my life with anyone else. What do I do if anything? Sarah? Well, first I would say, don't let two girls in a coffee shop convince you that you're interested in fucking them when you're in a perfectly happy relationship just because they

may be interested in fucking you. Uh, That's the first thing, doesn't seem I mean, if someone comes up to you and says I think you might be attractive, even if it were a man, and said I think you love me and you don't know it yet, what's your response to that? Exactly? And listen, First of all, I watch girl on girl porn too. I love girl on girl porn like that is where and I'm not a lesbian.

But I've also been with women, not in a relationship, but I've experimented with women sexually, and everyone's a little by. Of course you're a little by, honestly, even I am, even I am, I had girlfriends, Yeah, exactly, even Bretton is by. Okay, so there you have it. Everyone's a little bit by. But it's more of like your you call this person your soul mate, like that's then that's your answer, that's your guy. And these aren't feelings that

were born in your mind. They were feelings that were brought to you by two people that you work with, and that therefore I declare them invalid. Breton also like gen Z just loves calling everybody gay, so honestly, it's it's just probably like the gen Z nous that that's telling you that you're gay, because everyone that's in gen Z like swears everyone's gay honestly, so yeah, don't listen

to them. Yeah. I feel like gen Z is the first generation that gets that it's just sexuality as a false spectrum, Like it's just you know, you can be in a straight man and woman relationship, but like that doesn't necessarily mean that you're not queer. It just means like, for somebody who does have those feelings. It just means that like you did find your person, but also, like, how do you look by? Like you know what I mean? Panies?

I think crocs, crocs for sure? Like what is because like I feel like there's a gala lesbian love everything between what is a by love? You know, Well, there's not going to be a look for by in a twenty more years because everyone is gonna be by and it's gonna be like you know, like I could easily be turned on by a woman. I could definitely be sexually turned on by a woman. I don't want to be in a relationship with a woman. I want to

be in a relationship with Joe. So like, yeah, you could work around and have sex with a bunch of people, but that doesn't sound like it's going to be good for your relationship, especially if you aren't by yet. If you're straight and you start working around, it doesn't work well with straight people. Well, they have to acclimate to that mindset, and that's an open door policy, wide open yes.

So I think Sarah, like keep watching girl on girl porn and watch your girls on girl porn and think about those two baristas at your coffee place if you need to, but don't let it go any further than that. Perfect. Don't you feel like everybody's bisexual? Oh? I absolutely do this. Okay,

so this is a very interesting thing. So there's a young woman in my life who is like middle teens sort of exploring the dating world, and her dad, who is in his four like mid forties, he was sort of like, yeah, you know, she has a little girlfriend, but like, it's just a phase, and and it it felt so outdated to me to think about it as a phase when it's like, no, like she likes girls, and you know, we'll see where she winds up. But

it just was interesting to me. Yeah. Well, I think anybody over fifty, you know, any male over a fifty that's why is usually doesn't understand what's happening, Like they don't. Women are a little bit more understanding of like, okay, things need to change, whereas men are like, hmmmm, they just don't want to be a part of it. That they don't even necessarily have a problem with it, but

they don't want to be involved actively right writing it off. Yeah, and yeah, and that that's like as soon as you think like, oh, this is too much for me to understand, you kind of have to be like, Okay, listen if you want to be a full person, especially if you have a child like that. I know it's they say it's hard for men to accept their daughters being lesbians. It's like, fuck off, Fuck the funk off. It's hard for you. Why are you fucking your daughter who gives

a ship? Yeah, why do you have a problem, Like it's harder for men. Everything is so hard for men all the time. Yeah, And it's also like being a lesbian is like the safest relationship your daughter could be in. Like you, what about you, Bretman? When you came out? Did you come out to your parents or did they know? I actually don't have a coming out story. My mom always knew I was gay. I feel like when I came out out there like it's the gay. But yeah, my mom always knew I was gay. My dad always

knew I was gay. But also like my grandma, going back to her, she explained to my dad that I was like going to be gay, like when I was super young, and so like she was like if you messed with him, like you messed with me type of energy. So I have always been supported. Like my first time going to church, my grandma put blush on me, and I swear I was with the countiest angel in there. And so to be honest, I've always been supported, and

it kind of transferred to like my family members. My cousin daughter who is gay now, she just came out and she came up to me. She was like, ohh, I love that I had a gay uncle growing up because it's was so much easier for me to like express myself because we all, like her mom is very religious and so she had a hard time with that. But like now she's fine, Like she's out and proud, and she is out and proud like younger than I was,

So that's cool. Also, I a lot of my family member are like gay man, so it's it's cute to have like a lesbian around. Finally everyone needs a lesbian around exactly. Yeah. But also like I have a trance cousin that I grew up with growing up, and so I just grew up surrounded by like such loving accepting people and people themselves. How cool is your grandmother saying like yeah, you you funk with him, You're working with me,

Like that's great energy to Brannant. I have reasons to believe that she like put a spell on her pussy because she has seven kids and each one of them has a gay, has a gay each one of them. So my dad has me, my dad's twin has a gay, and then like so on, like all her kids has a gay daughter or a son. Wow, It's it's so weird. And so she has like seven gay cousins. I have

seven gay cousins from my dad. It was so from the moment you said I think something was there was a hex put on her pussy or something, it was like deja vu. It was like, I've had this conversation with you before, and you've told me that before, but you never have I knew you were going to say that your brother, your father, his brother, twin brother you said, right. I even knew you were going to say twin brother. It was so deja vu. It was like, yeah, I

think I told you that. No, you haven't told you that. No, I have. There's I just grew up with too many of me, So I was just like Grandma's here, Grandma's bear telling us about it. Yeah. Well, our next email comes from Alex and by the way, Alex's twenty eight, and the other person he's talking about here is twenty one. Alex says, I have a large problem, like large penis, like a large problem, like a large one. I've been dating my ex on and off for about three years.

We've been together more than we've been apart. I've been struggling so much with possibly getting back together. Wait, hold on on, don't wait, what you're dating your ex? Oh? This one? Your like? Which are you bating? That is? That is the crux of the issue here, Brettman. So I'm really hoping that you can help. We always say that we love each other, we just never worked because

we're different people. Lately, through therapy, I learned that I have so much guilt about being gay and having a relationship that this was the reason I broke up with him each time we have both been dating other people, but at the same time having a friends with benefits relationship as well. We've said that we'll stop when someone starts dating someone seriously, but I'm not really actively pursuing anyone because I want to get back together with him.

We're being very coupily with our hangouts, like going on friend dates and sleeping in the same bed together, buying each other, dinners, kissing, etcetera. We've had so many good conversations that we would never have had before when we were dating. I think it's because of the work I've done in therapy. I've been thinking about making a grand gesture like rose pedals, getting him a cat that he's always wanted. I'm allergic, by the way, renting a suit,

I mean, the whole nine yards. At the same time, though, I don't want to mess up our friendship or make it weird because we do live together. Oh wait, I'm not sure I said that we lived together. He moved in in November. I love him so much, but I just don't want to hurt him, and I don't want to try this again if it's going to end the same way what they moved in together after they broke up. I'm just having such a hard time knowing what to do.

Please help, Alex. Is this the same sex couple? Yes, I'm going to say, that's the gayest I've ever heard. Oh my god, kissing, What the kissing is it? Once you're kissing somebody, aren't you together? And living together? Like living together and sleeping with other people while you're with somebody. What is that? Oh my god, I sound like I'm judging you. It's low key I'm jealous, But also what is that, Loki? I am judging you. You need to

get your ship together and fucking confront the situation. This is like dilly dallying and keeping everything in a gray area. And as somebody needs to move or somebody needs to have a conversation and then you can maybe stay together and live together if they want to be together. Alex wants to be with him, so we just have to find out if the partner, the ex boyfriend, who is that? I could not get over that? Well, yeah, yeah, they need to Just you have to nip this in the bud.

And I don't under I want people behave this way and don't face a situation head on. I get frustrated because you are post You are postponing your reality. Yes, you are postponing your future. You are postponing your reality in the hopes that this person is going to come around. Maybe they've already come around. Just put it out there, I have the conversation, and also be ready to accept that it might not go your way, and then you

have to find a new roommate. Jesus. Yeah, it sounds like they kind of already are that couple that he wants to be. It sounds like there is completely in a relationship that they're living together, Like are they living in separate rooms? I don't know the answer to that. But you know what I noticed too, that there's actually like people out there who loves and thrive off like

toxic relationships. I don't know, I think I've watched it for you, but it's getting like Maddie and Nate vibe like they know they're not good for each other, but they love the toxickness of it, Like that's what that's what the relationship thrives off. I don't get it personally, but if that works for you, Alex, Like he says he doesn't get it personally, this is someone who got back together with his act seven or eight times. I don't get anymore personally. Straight up, Yeah, straight up, I

used to get it. You need to get your ship together, Alex. Get your ship together, okay, and treat this situation with dignity, and it deserves to be treated with dignity, and skating around the issue is undignified. Just have a face to face conversation, be prepared for the news that you don't want to hear. Even though it sounds like you're already in a relationship with this person, I'm more confused than

I was before you read that, lad or so suck it. Also, don't put the cat in that situation hat Like, oh my god, that is my biggest Yeah, if you want to be with this person, like, don't get a cat that you're allergic to, exactly like this, you're allergic to the person already, You're gonna get another thing you're allergic

to the girl. Yeah, my prediction is if you don't say anything and you get this cat, you're going to be the one looking for a new place because you're gonna have a bad reaction to that cat and then nothing's going to go your way. So definitely, don't buy make any grand gestures until you get the answer that you guys are going to continue being in a relationship and it's a cat and nobody wants that. Nobody wants that. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be back with

Brettman and Chelsea. I need a fucking break after that convoluted email, and we're back. Brettman had a peepee break. He had a shower a break. Do you have to do any pottery or anything. No, I just have to walk my dogs. Well, yeah, I have two new dogs, can sam. I have four dogs now I don't have them, they're out right now, but I have like all the bulldog family. I have a pibble Terrier, I have a

shorty bull, I have a pocket people and a French bulldog. Oh. You know, French bulldogs are like all the rage right now and Stanley well, and not in a good way. People are stealing French bulldogs off of people in San Francisco because so many people have French bulldogs that people will go out and their dogs are being kidnapped and then sold on the black market for ten or fifteen thousand dollars. People are buying French bulldogs. French bulldog. Yeah,

that's I think that's to be fair. I would I would probably dog not burn and berneithe as well, so I do see where they're coming. Well, by the way, you would have to because they have as a little inclination to move as anybody as a vegetable, so you would have you would have to kidnap them, just like I have to kidnap them. I would just dress up as your house peper, honestly, because they go to her. Well, those are some big shoes to fill, so we'll get

we'll get you the right outfit. Yeah, they're pretty freaking cute though, My dogs, they're so cute. I could I could never get like hairy dogs. I I don't know, how do you like have to like clean everything all the time. Well, and even with my short hair dogs, their hairs everywhere already, I can't imagine. Well, that's the thing. Some long hair dogs don't shed. They shed like twice a year, So these dogs actually don't shed that badly. It's short hair dogs shed more in some instances. But

my dogs, no, I don't brush their fucking hair. Let's be honest. I'm not doing any of that stuff. But they are getting that stuff done to them. But last night Bert took a shdubi in the kitchen, and I know that was a sign that was saying fuck you, because he doesn't ever go shudubi at night. It's only in the morning and the daytime. But he went in

the kitchen like left it in there. Because Joe came home late last night and I was already asleep, and that was his way of saying, there's too much commotion going on funk this ship. He usually sleeps in the bed with me, but when Joe's there, I don't have him in the bed because Joe doesn't understand why dogs

are in the bed. He said, you can have it whatever makes you happy, and I was like, well, Bert makes me happy, and He's like, yeah, so why don't you go fucking sleep upstairs and Bert can sleep down here. All I wanted to do is wake up with Bert's soft for. You know, I want to put my hand down and feel that soft for That's how I want to wake up every single day. Yeah, honestly, I left with my dog for the first time in like a couple of months because the girl she was always like

doing stuff in the middle of the night. But like last night, she did so good, like we actually cuddled. I don't sleep with all of my dogs. I also don't want to wake up smelling like a dog every day. But yeah, I love my dogs. I'm such a dog person. Did you always have like dogs going up, Miss Chelsea? I always Yeah, we always had dogs always MutS and rescues, you know, like weird dogs that were just like half wolf,

half German shepherd or some mixture. But I always loved chows because they look like teddy bears and they are. They look like real live bears that are just beading around your house. They're so fucking cute. And I've had these dogs for I don't know how many long how many years, but I just cannot They never become less cute, you know what I mean. They stay cute. A dog has to have such a shitty personality to become less cute,

and I've met dogs like that. That dog. Yeah, it's always the ankle bikers, always the ankle bite and the Pomeranians, like they're adorable when they're groomed and they have and then their personality sucks. It's like you don't like anyone but your owner. Then I, yeah, I have nothing for you. So and they they get really old and they really look like they're decaying sometimes, Like have you seen like

really old like small dogs before? Not to talk about them, but I'm just like, girl, put this girl out of her misery, like her eyes are popping out, like her tongue, yeah, having out of her nostro Like, yeah, sometimes you can put dogs down a little bit earlier, especially if they start to look bad. Yeah, my neighbor had a dog like that, and it was exactly like exactly like you said, like I think it's eyes were gone, like it couldn't walk.

It was like I think he said it was nineteen years old something crazy, And I like, I just was like this, this dog is not having fun being alive because you go to the bat and they're like, he's totally healthy. Yeah. Well, Brettman, did you have a piece of advice you'd like to ask for from Chelsea? Yes, actually I have I need to ask for two advice actually,

because um, I really admire Miss Chelsea's work. I really do, and right now I am I'm wanting to write a book and I know you have like six best sellers are who really is counting these days? So I would say, like, how do you not run out of things to write about, Miss Chelsea? Because I feel like I feel like I

don't even have anything to write about it anymore. Oh well, you well, if you're in the process of writing or getting close to finishing something, that's how you always feel like you'll never be able to write another thing or write anything. But just trust your life experience is what's going to give you the material to always have something to talk about everything that's going on with you. You know what I mean, You're never going to run out of that, So just don't even put that in your head.

Just know like there's more coming down the pike. You have like this huge, busy life. It's material every single day, and when you get to a place where you're ready to go do it again, you start to draw from all that. And even when something great or a funny story happens to you, or a funny experience or something outlandish or crazy, just make sure you're like make it, like have a note section in your phone to write

things down, because you'll be surprised. All I need is one sentence and I can write a chapter about it. And when you're a creative, that's almost everyone can do it. It's just that so many people don't try to do it. So writing a book is a very I think natural thing for anyone, especially anyone with a big personality likes to share and likes to talk about themselves. It's no problem.

What is your your favorite book that you wrote, Like out of all the books you've written, Like, what is like the one my most recent book would be Life would be the Death of Me, but it's always my most recent book. That's my favorite. That felt like it had my humor, but it also was deep and profound, and it helped people, and it showed aside to me that I've grown up with my whole life, but I didn't know no one else had seen. So it was really kind of nice to share that with my fans

and people and have the reaction. So that's definitely my best, my best work, I think. I love that. Oh my gosh. Wait. My second advice actually I kind of already hinted it earlier, but I want to do a podcast with my sister, Like, do you have any tips for like future podcasters? You know, yeah, well you got to do it with your sister. I mean who else would you do it with. First of all, you guys need me a Catherine. I need me a Catherine. I mean just you have to look at it like this.

People want more than what they're getting from you, right, They want to hear more between you and your sister, and you guys can get someone like Catherine to kind of oversee it so that there's somebody moving the ship. Forward or that role can be played by your sister, certainly not by you, as you've demonstrated today that you can't run a podcast. But just keep in mind like people want more, right, they want to listen to more.

They love the way you talk, they love the way you converse, they love the dynamics between the two of you. So don't put a lot of pressure on yourself. Just go and have fun conversations with her. You can pick any topics you want, or not pick any topics at all, and just shoot the ship. And then when you feel like you want to add another layer, out another layer. But yeah, just be like, do what people love from you, which is talking. I can't wait to build my set.

I was thinking yellow velvet curtains. How interesting. We can just send you these. Okay, you need you need a new set of curtains anyway. So uh well, Brettman, you're just a delight as always. Oh I'm gonna hit you up when we come back to Hawaii. Oh my gosh, I'm bored. Yeah no, well hang out. Yeah, you, me and Joe Boy, we're gonna have a whole We're bringing a whole gaggle of people there. Don't say goggles. I saw, I saw you toward d bitch. You better give me

a ticket when you get here. I'm not fighting for their tickets. No, you'll get your own ticket. You'll get your own V I P box even though there aren't any of those. Please, I'm kidding, Batman. We love you. Thank you so much, guys. Continued success and everything that you do and good luck with your new doggies. Thank you. I need it. Loha allaha, maha kita everybody. We have new merch. We have Dear Chelsea merch which you can

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