‘That’s Triggering!’ Is Therapy-Speak Changing Our Relationships?

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We just text all the time. Get sure my dad text it all the time.

It texts when I dropped Elilah to him and I'm like, did she get there?

Okay? Sometimes on his birthday, Oh that's cute. Do you remember when we first started the podcast.

I would always be like, fuck, your dad's hot, and you were like, you need to stop.

He does one hundred pull ups the morning at four thirty Din tell He's hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life on Cut. I'm Laura, I'm Brittany. I'm giving the rock today. Anna Why. I looked at myself in the mirror when I got ready and I didn't have time to change, and I was like, wow, I look like the rock in that really famous photo. This is exactly that photo. And I actually had a chain around my turtleneck that I've got on. I had a chain and I was like, I can't do it.

Bulging del toy now that you've said this, if you just put a bum bag on, thank you complete look.

One hundred percent. And I was like, I probably have time to quickly put a different top on, but I was like just going to lean in. But hot rock, hot rock, hot rock. I'll take it. Yeah, thanks like hot, But I mean that's very what is it? Eighties? What one say? Yes, the rock from the eighties nineties. You look great.

You look great today if you have been saying, which I wanted to know, because this is what always happens, whenever something funny happens in our lives, we're like.

I'll tell you on the podcast.

Oh so I've been wanting to know what it is that you've been keeping secret from me.

It's not a secret, but I just had this. It was funny. I had this realization and had to chuckle to myself out loud, and I wanted to tell you guys straight away because it involves you a little bit. But then I was not enough save it for the pod. No, so Ben and I in the last little week sent out like save the date kind of wedding invites. Yeah, got it, thank you for that. So just to double down, yeah you haven't responded, I did RSVP straight away.

I was probably the first person to RSVP with Matt RSVP two to all events, all three. I RSVP to the Brittany and Ben spectacular. Okay, every single one.

Okay, it's a couple of days, DOMPI dramatic to the five day fucking affair. I met every single thing. It's one month, it's twenty eight events. You want me at the breakfast, the brunch, and the dinner. I am their girlfriend. I haven't even given you all of it yet. So half, for anyone that's new, half of our wedding is foreign

When you said half of the wedding is you made it sound like it's a traveling circus.

We're going to do half of it in Australia that we're going to take it. It's a well tool we could be. It's going to be a wonderful wedding. But yeah, so half all of his side, none of them Australian

So like when Matt and I got married, we made one of those like I don't know, like the is a WEBSHD or a web whatever.

It's like you go online and you fill it all out online.

Yeah, and you put all of the information for the wedding on like a little website, right that idea. Yeah, it's the same type of thing, and so that's where you put your your dress code and everything.

Yeah, except Britta and I never got it y good things.

So we made this website and I didn't realize that, like because I mean it was pre COVID, and like, we're pretty fucking unorganized. And I asked Matt to fill out half of it, and I feeled out half of it. Part of his thing to fill out was the dress code, and he had just like, because you have to populate before you can move on to the next page. So he populated some things without it being serious, just so that we could flick through to the next page to

Like a placeholder.

Yeah yeah, except he didn't go back and didn't fix those things. And so we sent out wedding invitation with the dress code dress sexy, and that went out.

Okay, mind dress sexy, that's okay. Ben's nana got no.

G strings one of those mirrored aisles. Also, at what age, what age you record you stop wearing a G string? Like, because it would I can't imagine I mean, bless her, she's gone now, but I couldn't imagine Nana wearing a G string.

I can't imagine mine Nana wearing a G string. When do you give up? When do you say not for me anymore? I want to be hugged forever. I don't think it's your ass, to be honest, I think it's your lips, like it's on the fallen outside. I think when it gets a bit like more relaxed down there, I want to say relaxed over looser, but like gravity, when it ages, gravity takes over. I imagine that would be super uncomfortable.

You know when you said that, the only thing I thought straight away was, oh, someone's going to be angry at you because you said lips are not lady.

Someone's going to be so mad that you didn't say vulva. Yeah, but then when we say labia, we get in trouble too. Stop talking abou Laura's leaby being cut off. Sorry if she wants to cut off. But I had to go back onto the website, and then I updated the wedding invitation, so I kept it all the same. It still says like no thongs, but then I had to write in brackets for all your Europeans thongs means flip flops. You can,

It was very long because it was like, well, it wasn't really the long weekend. But we went down to Aladalla on Thursday and had four nights down south. And so if you guys are not following, or if you don't follow social media, you might not know this, but Matt and I we are renovating a house down in Ala Dollar. It's about three hours drive from Sydney. So we went down there on the weekend. And if you listened to last week's episode, it's kind of like beautiful

Yeah, you do love a reptile. A great reptile park.

I should go there one day, but never as a non parent did I get myself there. But on the weekend I went with Matt. I went with the kids, and it was like dreams come true. I had so much fun. I love reptiles. So the reptiles heard. They listened to Life Uncut, and they got the memo, the four one one.

They know that I love the snakes and leave a review. Yeah, because otherwise I don't want to know about it.

Posts here from the reptile parks. Okay, well you fucking.

Know what happened. Don't pretend like your shop Brittany, what happened? Trying to move it along.

So we go down to the house on Saturday and we were cleaning up the gardens and about halfway through the day, as we were walking down the side of the house, this massive python and I'm talking like almost.

Two meters python is slithering up the fence line and Matt was still inside. It wasn't Matt's python.

So it was slithering up like between the border between our property and the neighbors, and the neighbors had come out to look at it as well, and they were all making jokes like, oh, whose house is it gonna go into?

Not really like yours, motherfucker. Yeah, not a funny joke.

Anyway, it went into the bushes, and because we'd cut down a couple of like dead trees, and so I for a minute thought maybe we had cut down its home, like we'd cut down where it had been living. And so it was feeling a bit displaced because it was quite cute.

Nah, not cute. It was like twenty meters long.

It wasn't cute. It could eat you. No, it's not a bowl constrictor. It was a diamond python hot. And so it was in the bushes and it was like hanging down and we were cleaning up. We were watching it for half the day, and I kept saying to Matt, do you think we should get a snake catcher out? Do you think we should get a snake ketch? And he's like, nah, it's fine, like it's in the bush,

And before we could stop it, I went and I got the broom, and I was trying to know, what were you going to do?

Well, I was trying to broom it out of the roof, so I had the broom handle, and I was trying to gently because I don't want hurt it, because I love snakes. So I was like trying to like get it out of the roof anyway. I like, I knocked it once and then it didn't like that, and so then it just went a bit faster, and all of a sudden, this big ass, which it had just eaten because I had a big, fat belly, had crawled into

Now, I think we should probably burn down the house.

We don't move.

I'm thinking about the fact that you have a small cat. Yeah, yeah, it's not good for Raspberry. Hey, you haven't seen Raspberry a few days. Not thinking of the cat. Also no good if we have a newborn either, that's not funny. You'd better not do it.

So I get this number for a local snake catcher, right, So I call.

Him Marp and he hello, my darling, Hello me dear. I was like, so irish, I do know. Is this man real? You're watching Lord of the Roof. He's real?

And I was like, look, we've got a snake in the roof. Can you come out and help me? And he was like what would you like me to do about it? And I was like, get it the fuck out of my roof fleets. He goes, okay, send me a video. So I send him a video of the snake and he calls me right back and he goes, ah, a diamond python.

It's beautiful. Now. Explain to me, darling, why do you want to get it out of the roof.

And I was like, because I think it's living there, and he goes, yes, you are right, it has been. It's its home. I would even bet it's been there for many years. You probably have lots of snakes in your roof because they like to live together. And I was like, I think you need to understand that this is horrifying for me, and we are kind of vibing

I was like, you're far because have you seen a snake give birth? It doesn't have one fifteen to twenty eggs? And then some the size of that python, I reckon she's having fifty. Are you're gonna have fifty? From my python experience.

Print me the button tamer that was from a different phase of life though, and it wasn't a python, I.

Reckon, it's gonna have like fifty baby pythons. Imagine if you have fifty of those big giant things.

In your Yes, I know that is exactly how I felt, and so pretty much told me he couldn't help me because he couldn't access the python through the manhole of the roof, and so the python is just there. He's just living in the roof, chilling. To be clear, be in a python. I don't think they actually I know, we're like laughing. I don't think they actually do much.

I think they're actually really good in terms of they eat the rat.

This is what he said, Like, just think about it. You'll never have any vermin or mice. How wonderful. So yeah, it's not good for Raspberry. But we do have a massive python and it is living in the house.

So I'm not I'm never coming.

We did have like really cool plans for long weekends down there, but it's just not gonna happen.

Now where does he get out of? Is there an obvious hole gutter?

Well?

No, at the moment, the house is in all states of deconstructed, so there's many holes.

Do the people who were doing the construction, no, because they're about to get a real jump scare.

Yeah, that was the problem.

So we called our builder, who is an absolute legend, like this dude who's got four kids. He was like, his name's Tom, and we called him and I was like, hey, this is not not good times and he rocks up in his truck with his four children and his wife to look at it, to come and try and get out of the roof because he was worried about his workers and the reptile part. And they thought, this is actually it's a free reptor for free reptile party.

Now you guys know, or you might not know, but you will. Now I am a sucker for love is blind. So love is blind. If you haven't seen it, it's like a very modern dating show where there's a bunch of men and a bunch of women and they go into these pods that are separated pods. It's just a room, right, but they go into these pods that's separated by these walls. The men are on one side, the women on the other. You go one woman per room, one man per room, and you talk to each other and you get to

One might think that it's based on the premise that someone's personality is more important than.

The way they look. It's exactly what it is. The whole idea is is love really blind? That's the question they pose the antidote to online dating. Maybe yes, so they it's like speed dating without seeing the other person. So all the people move between the pods. You get to speak to whoever you want, and then you form these Then you decide if there's like maybe one or two people that you want to pursue. Then at the end you have to have chosen your person blind blindly.

Here's what I believe. You like someone for their qualities, but you love someone for their flaws.

I've always been drawn to flaws.

I've in the same way.

Yeah.

Actually my most recent relationship, since you know, we're already getting into this, Yeah, I will divulge something that I am not very proud of at all, but I wear this brand and I think it's very important to be honest about it.

Yeah.

So we're we're going to talk about cheating. Yeah, I technically hold the title of being a cheater. I've been cheated on multiple times as well. I believed that this person that I was dating at the time, I believed I didn't deserve her. Everyone has a different concept of cheating. One person's could be you know, looking at someone you know. Someone else's could be an actual physical act. I basically slid into a girl's DMS like a dumb ass, and

And by the way, I really appreciate you sharing with me, and I want you to feel like you can tell me anything, like we're all human. I'm thirty six years old, Like it's not so black and white. The experiences that I've had to deal with from cheating are woof they are that's music grows and very very bad. And even in those situations, I've always found a path to forgiveness.

I love how.

He's managed to victimize himself in that cheating situation, like he's the one who acted outside of the relationship.

And obviously I know there's many reasons I people cheat.

We've talked about that a load of time, but in that one conversation, he managed to make himself the victim and gain her pity for his cheating.

Oh, one hundred percent. But even the way he set it up, you can tell he knows what he's doing. This is what I think. I think he one hundred percent knew what the outcome was going to be. He was being vulnerable he dropped and he went to therapy. He dropped that he only did it because he didn't feel like she was good enough because she was such a queen. And also when he says he's a cheater, so he says, you know, I want to talk about cheating.

Have I saw some things on Facebook groups and that kind of thing for Love is Blind that were very divided, and.

Half of the people were like, hang on a second.

He just made himself exactly how we all felt, you know, he just made himself the victim in a narrative where he was actually the person doing the wrong thing. But the other half of people were saying, at least he's honest about it, like, at least he's kind of coming forward with this information and she doesn't need to ask him these questions, and he's being truthful about his past experiences.

But I also think that that's been reflected recently and the whole David Groll thing foo fighters. If you guys are across it, which I'm sure you are, he has fathered a child outside of his twenty something year marriage, and the social discourse around that was so interesting because some people were like, Wow, what a flog he cheated on his wife and had a baby with an adulterous affair.

What a great guy. If he's taking accountability for accountability.

It is fascinating to me the way in which we are able to frame some things, and we can frame our shortcomings in a way that garner empathy and garner sympathy. And I'm not saying that this is black and white, because I do think that there are absolutely instances where someone's shortcomings and the things that they do that might hurt someone else very well can be the byproduct of

I question why that might be the case, because I think that the implication is that they are potentially at least more aware, perhaps of their emotions if they're going to therapy.

I mean, there will be exceptions, some are court mandated therapy.

But always Like, I'm trying to think about the positives as to why women would be like I want a guy who has been to therapy, and I think it's all about taking accountability for your own shit. And I think that it is somewhat dangerous for us to equate going to therapy with actually owning stuff and take accountability for behavior, you know, I don't think that these things automatically align.

I also really want to be careful with this because I don't want this to sound at all like we're stigmatizing people who do go to therapy or people who talk about the fact that they go. And I think it's really important because like it's not just gendered. There are a lot of very conscious and intentional men out there who are going to therapy and it has been hugely beneficial to them, and they don't feel shame around talking about it, and therefore that's the reason why they've

It's my boundary that you don't post a bikini fils.

It's my boundary that you behave in a way that I expect you to. And we unpacked on that episode this conversation around how a boundary is a limitation for yourself, it can't be a limitation for someone else, and that to me wreaked of someone who had been to therapy, had learnt the tools, but then was intentionally abusing those tools in order to coercive control their partner in a relationship.

But at the end of the day, not everybody is cut from the same cloth. There could be people that go to therapy that are still wankers, women and men. Right, you still a dickhead, You're still want to do the same thing. Yeah, there are people that go to therapy that they come out the other side, Like Jesus, there are people that will never need to go to therapy

Like, in terms of talking about the ways in which we can abuse terminology. I think we see it beyond just dating, though. I think we see it with the overuse of the word toxic, with the word trauma, with the word triggered.

Like narcissist, sociopath. Yeah.

I mean we might have a negative experience with someone who has treated us badly, and then we've instantly blanketed them as a narcissist, which is a pathological diagnosis. Like you can't just have one interaction with someone who cheats on you or treats you badly. That doesn't instantly mean that they are narcissistic or a narcissist. I do think

I think that's like the situation that everyone's experience as a subjective, right, so someone's trauma will be subjective, but a term like triggering is actually an objective word, and so the overuse of it. And I'm even guilty of

And I really regret that, Like I really regret.

Amounting my experiences to something that someone really has been damaged by. And I think that's the problem with the overuse of these words. And it's not just about narcissism, you know, A lot of people will say things like I say it on TikTok all the time. Oh, I have trauma from one of my past relationships because my ex used to not write back to me for twenty four hours and it would give me anxiety and blah blah blah. And I'm like, Okay, let's actually unpack the

Genuinely experienced really really awful.

And traumatizing events in relationships, especially you know, we talk about domestic violence law on this podcast. I just think that perhaps as a way to try and you know, we love to put a label on everything.

We love to have everything categorized.

We love to have these buzzwords and also words like this, especially when you're in therapy and you start using them in your general vocabulary, it implies a certain level of emotional intelligence.

And I just think the pendulum might have swung a little too far. It's just overuse of the word. It's lost its meaning. It has an oversaturation and I read a really interesting article from a teacher, a primary school teacher, no so high school teacher, bit early like twelve, thirteen fourteen. She wanted to stay anonymous because she didn't want it to get back to her kids. But she said she cannot believe the uses of these terms that she hears

But someone can just be a dickhead. They don't have to be emotionally abusive. Someone can just be a wenka today doesn't mean that they're a sociopath.

You can be a fuck with and not narcissist, like these things are not interchangeable. But I found that really interesting because that is who we are setting up, That is the future generation that don't quite grasp the true meaning what these terms are because they have become standard vocabulary.

And interchangeable and don't become interchangeable with just normal experiences that we are all going to go through as part of like figuring out how to socially exchange with other people.

And I know we were talking about it, Laura, the use of the terms that we throw around now, Like when we have an argument with our partner, it's not an argument, it's gas lighting. Oh yeah, look, it's a good way to win an argument. Put it that way.

You want to win an argument, tell your partner they're gas lighting you, like it won't go down.

Well, you'll win, but you won't make up.

Gas Lighting is a real and intentional lie to try and distort someone else's perception of what they experienced. It is an intentful act. Whereas like we are all going to have disagreements and arguments with our partners where we don't see things the same way because our experience of what we just did and went through or the way we spoke to each other. Our perceptions around it were different.

We all do it.

We've all called our ex boyfriend's narcissists. We've all told someone that they're gas lighting us when they're probably not. Matt and I will have an argument and either he'll say it or I'll say it, you're gaslighting me. And what we are meaning by that is I'm trying to convey how I experience something and you're telling me I'm wrong, right, But when when you actually unpick it and try and like get down to the root of it. Really it's just two people who actually love each other, who have

Yeah. But it's funny because we can sit here, you know, on our high horses and preach and say it's overused. But like you just said, we're all guilty of overusing it. But it's something that we need to start to be conscious about.

Yeah, And I think that's the big thing. It's not like none of this is criticism. It's all just like awareness around what's the behaviors that we do and are we contributing to something that's like as a bigger picture could be slightly problematic, I.

Will throw myself under the bus. The theme of Ben's and my relationship is literally, this is how you made me feel when you said that, And then the other person says, but I didn't mean it like that. I didn't mean to make you feel like that. And I think that comes down to a bit of maybe a

Bring up perception, though, because to bring it back to the love is blind thing that we initially were talking about, it like cat back on.

Track of motherfuckers? Why are we talking about your argument styles.

I just think it's interesting because I am so all about therapy.

I'm all about people going and sorting their mental health.

I've had diagnosed mental health issues for years and years and years. I'm all about it, And I think the reason I feel the need to say that is because I've spoken in a very negative way because what I've referred to, I think is the use of therapy to shift the perception of the.

Way that someone else sees you.

And that's what I have a bit of a problem with, not the actual therapy or the fact that people are trying to work on themselves. So in the situation that unfolded with Stephen and Monica, what I thought was the most interesting part is that he kind of drip fed these few things about therapy, and I feel as though he did that in a way to change the way

Absolutely, And I think it's something that some people it's very manipulative.

And I'm not saying he's done it manipulative. I don't even know if he did it deliberately, but I think he did.

I think there are people out there who use their shortcomings or the things that they've done in past relationships, and they use honesty around it as a way of showing vulnerability and gaining trust.

The reason I think that this was pure manipulation in this particular scene is because he went for the maximum amount of emotion for the minimal amount of hurt infliction. And what I mean by that is he was like, I need to talk about cheating something I did. I'm so not proud of it, Like it was horrible what I did, but I just didn't feel good enough and I'm going to therapy now. But I messaged a girl.

Last night we put up a couple polls on the Life on Cut Instagram story, and one of the questions was have you ever dated someone who used the fact that they went to therapy as a way to prove their emotional maturity, and only eleven percent of people said that they had, which felt quite low.

We also put a little.

Question box on there for people to kind of share their experiences if they wanted to. And the most interesting thing, I thought, this is really really funny. The most common response that we got was that people had in fact done that themselves, like they had. I don't know if they had realized that they had done it until they'd read the question, but a lot of people were like, oh, wow, I've just realized.

I actually do this problem.

I use it as a way at least they're self aware, maybe because they've been in therapy.

I thought this was interesting.

A lot of responsibly received was that the people who had they acted as though it meant that they were above being questioned or held accountable because they had done the work and they knew better, So it gave them this sense of superiority within the relationship because they couldn't be wrong because they'd been to therapy.

I think that that actually goes back to what you were saying about gaslighting.

I think a word like that is authoritative one hundred percent, but people use it also as an excuse as to why they are doing bad behavior. So in a relationship, like as long as you're going to therapy, you can use that, I'm working on it. I'm in therapy, like I'm trying. I know I've been in an ashole for a year, but I'm in therapy, so I'm trying. It doesn't mean anything like therapy only works. If you want it to work,

Funny, you mentioned excuses, Brick, because that was the last slide that we put up last night. With a poll, we asked if people use their time in therapy as an excuse to avoid accountability. Again, a pretty low percentage it was only fourteen percent who had But here are some of the responses. He went to therapy for professional evidence that he was fucked up and couldn't help mistreating me. Wow, my ex started therapy as a way to keep me after I found out that he had cheated on me.

I've experienced that.

Used to say things like I brought this up with my therapist and they agreed with me. My therapist said that it's likely you have validation issues from your childhood and that's why you are needy.

Wow. Imagine being diagnosed by someone's secondhand because they've talked about you in therapy.

Thanks for that, Pal, cheers for that. Got daddy issues.

Apparently my ex's therapist told him that he cheated on me because he wasn't loved enough as a child, and he used to use it as an excuse to always be the victim and repeated that I simply wouldn't understand.

Speaking a victim. The only thing that we haven't touched on yet that grinds my gears. I get it, I get that there are people out there that are gonna live like this, but his comment at the start where he said she just was too good for me, like I didn't felt like I didn't deserve her. I felt like I didn't deserve her, which is why I cheated on her. I just find that ninety niner percent of

Yeah, I mean like it's punishing someone for your own inadequacies, is what it is. But I think that this would be more common than what maybe we're giving credit to. And what I mean by that is is for anyone who has been cheated on, the two very common explanations for it is one I didn't feel good enough or worthy enough, and also the second one is I didn't feel loved enough. Or connect enough in the relationship. There

Maybe it's a little bit of a combination of all of them. Sometimes I also don't want to take away the fact that that actually happens, like it does happen, and people that don't feel good enough it is a real reason, Like I do want to validate it. I just think it gets thrown around too much as well. I've had people say that to me and I have had that feeling as well. Like I was in a relationship I remember I've spoken about a few years ago, very early on. We dated for three months when I

No.

But what I'm saying is I can understand when people say they get that feeling of not feeling good enough, and I was like, I will not fit into that life. I'm not good enough to be in that in that world. And I had that feeling, but it didn't relay into cheating and me being a dickhead. I was just like, Oh, this isn't the relationship for me. I don't which I you know, this part of me their regrets. We'd love a billion dollars, but I've got ben, so we won't go into that too much.

I think what I hate about that the most, though, is that so often and I am going to be talking in like gender stereotypes here, so often I think men use that as a weapon against successful women. Oh, you're achieving so much, And I just didn't feel like I was good enough in this relationship and that's why I was seeking validation from other girls on Instagram or like, I just get really frustrated because I see that narrative

I think that in order to like wrap this up, one thing that is very evident is like, although therapy is great, it certainly isn't the green flag. And dating it definitely doesn't mean that someone's got everything figured out. It certainly doesn't mean that that person is emotionally or mentally at a place of nirvana where you've hit the jackpot.

Well, I haven't finished it yet, so I don't know if Steven and Monica end up together. I don't know if this little tidbit of therapy manipulation is going to like get him the home run. But I'll keep you posted, and if you guys have watched it, don't send me spoilers. It's time for accidentally Unfiltered Now. I have a long one, but it is brilliant. Back in two thousand and eight, I was eighteen and lived in the Central Coast, but we used to go to Fanny's nightclub in Newcastle every weekend.

Fanny.

Imagine being the marketing guy who was like, you know what we should call this place Fanny's nightclub?

It was called something else.

They've changed it now, they referbed and it's called the.

Eig Old House now, which is nowhere near as fun but probably slightly classy. Okay, I'm going to Fanny's tonight. My church used to be next door to it. From Fanny's to church.

Yes, sometimes on a Sunday church there would still be people trickly out.

Would they be going to confessional? Okay, let's soundtrack We're at Fanny's. My best friend's boyfriend, Mattise one night with a couple of his mates. I saw one of them and was in immediate love. The feeling was mutual and we made out the entire night. He lived on the northern beaches of Sydney, but his family also owned a holiday house right on the beach at the Central Coast, which coincidentally was just down the road from my house.

And I thought, sick, I know what's happening here. Haha.

I thought the height of this motherfucker. I had texted the most awful message back, saying I saw you at the beach. I'm not dumb. Delete my number, I'm blocking you, et cetera. He responded, what I've been in Sydney. I blocked him, deleted, forgot about him. A year later, my friend's boyfriend asked why I ghosted the guy and that he always asked how I am. And I told him what happened, and he absolutely lost it, laughing. He was cracking up, and I'm like, wow, I'm glad you think

I love that she was flipped in the verb yeah, good one, dickheads, But.

Imagine the girlfriend. Imagine the girlfriend being like, explain yourself totally dock was that the girlfriend would have just been so confused.

Okay, surely, surely the guy would have realized that she had seen the brother, Like sure, come on, he would have known because he would have been like, what are you talking about, I'm in Sydney. And then he would have gone, oh, that's right, I'm an identical twin and my brother has a girlfriend.

Like, surely he's not that dumb. But you know what she did say that, like, they've met up sporadically over the years and they still have big feelings for each other, but their stars haven't aligned. If you feel like that and you've got a boyfriend of seven months. You just oh, this was a.

Long time ago. This was back in twenty eighteen. But maybe what they need is Fanny's. Maybe they need for Fannies to reopen so they can rekindle the love.

Sounds like she needs a bit of dick, to be honest. Sorry, continue, that was too far.

All right on that note, and that note that's not okay.

Sorry everyone, If you've made it this far, you're in the fold, all right, No suck and sweet my suck for the week. Look, I know that there's rules and we're not supposed to say things we've already said. But there is a two meter long diamond python in the roof and it's pregnant having babies.

Fair, I'd say that that's pretty bad. Doesn't get much worse than that.

Oh no, Actually, my other suck is So we're cleaning out the garden, just trying to make it so that's actually usable.

Hopefully it'll be done by Christmas. I don't think it will be, but I'm trying. Okay.

So we're cleaning out the garden and I got this scratch. It's so nothing, it's the most nothing scratch in the whole world. But it did bleed for a little while, but the scratch was on a rusty, dirty nail, and so then I had to go and get a tetnis shot. So I had to leave the work site and go and get a tetanus shot. And if you've had a tetnis shot, they make you really tired. And then I had to use a broom for two days.

I'm such a.

Hard laborer, snake catching and tetanus needling.

I had to dust and like my shoulders her and my hip's hurt, my back hurts, could have tetanus, could.

Die, It's fine, I'm fine. Could also get eaten by a dive in Python.

But anyway, I literally went to the medical center in Milton and she was like, I don't think it would be possible to get tetanus from such a shallow scraud.

She's like, it.

Hasn't even actually broken a serpace, she said, just so you know how tetanus forms, it's like asphorically.

I don't know, it's like a word that she used.

I didn't know what it was, but basically, it's like it needs to embed itself into your muscle. And she's like an aerob an aeroby She's like that is very superficial, but I'll give it to you anyway.

I feel like your cat could have scratched you deeper than't it. Yeah, but my cat's not a rusty, dirty nail that's been in the earth. The cat's dead the python. My cat is in a python stomach. Okay, well, my sweet is, my sweet is? You don't have one.

Say that the tiles went into the downstairs bathroom. That's a fucking sweet.

It looked good.

The renout is taking shape, and every time I go into the house now I have these moments.

Of like I can see what is going to be.

Whereas before I was like I have no idea how this shit show is going to turn out, but now I can kind of see it coming together.

Okay, my suck this week, I had a really really great week, so I don't have any sucks. My suck is going to sound so dumb. It is a public holiday today when we're recording in New South Wales and we're at work. We got to work early, we're all working all day. We don't get the public holiday. But that's not even the suck.

Because we would never leave you guys hanging, So we work all the talent.

Yeah, But the suck is that I got here didn't have a lot of sleep because it's supportive girlfriend. It's Ben's match day, which he plays at one thirty in the morning, so I was watching that that we got up at six blah blah blah blah. The suck is that there is no coffee shop open in any vicinity of our work today. So I always get to work and get my coffee. I felt like I needed it more than ever today everything's closed. I made you a really delicious one, though, so bad. I think it's off.

I'll show you. I can't wait to see it. She looks my sweetest that my dog looks lit tomorrow.

Stop it stop. You need to say, I don't know. She looks like Elton John, if that's what you mean by a rock star, Like she's giving Elton John.

She looks like cute.

Shit, she looks like a seventy eight year old man. But that looks like a saxophonist. If a dog could be like a jazz star, she looks like a jazz star.

Very cute.

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