Ask Uncut - Can I character check your ex?

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Welcome back to another episode of Live onun Cut. I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and I.

Have a bone to pick with you. Laura Burne.

Ah, yeah, you did just say let's go, betches, And I.

Was like, what are you even? Who is this?

I was just trying it out, you know, wan to try something out? No, and it doesn't work, didn't you just want to see how it rolls off your tongue and if it lands, let.

You know what, let's go. Bes.

I was like, all right, let's go, betches.

And the girls like what and I was like, don't worry. No, my bone to pick?

Oh yeah, I just pour your coffee. Well it's not a bone. It's a funny. So the other day on the podcast, you may or may not have heard that we got some vibrators and we got a whole bunch of stuff. We're having a laugh about it. The company sent Ben because it was addressed to me. Brittany has some fumbing Ben. It was what we called hot dog and it was like this round thing that the penis dock had.

To a cockhugger.

I can't believe we've talked about this on episodes straight now.

It's called the stroker, right, So the hot dog thing that the penis dog's into. And Laura had a win, right, She's like, oh, why didn't I get one? Maddie Jay has a dick as well, like he needs to dock his penis too, and I just was like, you would never use it.

We had a joke I would never use it. Then we got some questions about what it was.

So we're going to take a photo of all of them and put them on the stories because everyone's like, what are all these vibrators?

So we're gonna put on the stories.

Then we have to use them no, one day later, So we just took it home Laura and we're like, Laura, can you bring it back in? It wasn't even twenty four hours and she's like, oh, I can't find it.

I'm like, what, maybe I've used it, and you don't want to have a photo of a used vibrant.

No, that is not true, because you would have said I've used. There's no Secretsy.

You lost it within twelve hours, an entire vibrator set.

It was as one vibrators. It wasn't a set of vibrators. It wasn't a fucking like cupboard full of vibrators that they misplaced it. It was one single vibrator in the box, in the box which is quite large. And I left it in the studio upstairs, so I'm guessing somebody else has taken it.

I don't think you're still there. You went home, how would you know?

And you left it on the table. You left a vibrator on the table. Well, this is why you can't have nice things, lassive.

Pink vibrator just hanging around the office space. Let's get in because I feel like we could do this. We haven't seen each other this morning, so we could do this for hours before we actually start the episode. There's something I wanted to ask you which happened to me two days ago, and I wanted.

To get your opinion on this.

I'm here four, all right, so and this is for everyone playing at home as well?

What is the etiquette?

What responsibility do you have if somebody slides into your DMS, A girl slides into your DMS and asks about your ex boyfriend like they want like a verification check. They almost want you to go reference on him, like they're.

Doing a criminal record check. Yeah.

And the reason why they're doing a reference check on him is because he is not a great Oh I shouldn't say he's not a great guy. He is a terrible person to date, like an truly abominal datable person. Maybe a great person for other means, but if you were going to choose him as your life partner, Oh god, watch out.

Oh I just came up with a term in my head right now. I'm pretty impressed. So it's like the FBI. We'll call it the friend boyfriend Investigation. Sure, yes, that was pretty good, admit it. Yeah it was off the car. I like that, Okay, friend the FBI. Yeah, it's the friend boyfriend Investigation FBI.

So what's the question should you use if someone writes to you?

So this has obviously happened, So I'll give you the backstory, right, I like it.

Happened to my friend's friend's dog. I'm asking for a friend hypothetically.

Okay, So this has happened to me multiple times over the last couple of years, and the reason for it is, you know, spoken about it many times on here.

I have one.

Particularly trouble X who there was lots of cheating from him on me. It was a really it was super toxic. The start of the relationship was full, like a lot of love bombing, and then things just deteriorated. And so this is now six seven years ago, like it's a long time ago, right, a long long time ago. But I still get women who slide into my DMS to ask me about this person or stopped me in the street to ask me about this person because either they've had a bad experience or they want to kind of

And I think that a lot of people will relate to this. What do you do?

Do you give an honest review or do you say I don't want to get involved?

What happens? Well, you're on he was a bad egg. I don't think he's changed at all.

Well, I mean, we don't know.

Seven years I've got nothing to do with the guy. Okay, So it's funny you should ask this. This happens to me.

Also, so those of you playing on long or have been here from the beginning, you'll know that I dated somebody with a double life.

You know, he was married to people at the same time.

This is literally why the podcast started. It was our two relationships. Britta and I became friends. We started talking about and we were like, oh my god, let's start a podcast and talk about the trauma that we've experienced and tell everyone if you haven't.

We really got back, didn't We go back to the third episode?

We ever? But did?

This is four years ago, and don't judge us on the audio quality. It was our first time podcasting. But anyway, the story is there. It's called so I dated a sociopath? Moving forward. This happened to me a lot. So it happened to me before the podcast, right just with some people we knew he was a bad egg. There was a mutual friend that slid into the DMS and said, your ex is now dating somebody.

I know.

I don't know you the details, but I know it was pretty bad. What do I do? What can you do? Can you speak to her? And I was like, yeah, I can speak to one hundred percent. So I got on the phone with this random chick and I did bad mouth him, but I was like, look, it's not good.

He's fucked. Let's not shure gote this. He's fucked. He's as cooked as a barbecue chicken. From Coles. I just said, I said he's no good. Then it happened to.

One more time, maybe six eight months later, and I did it again, but I just said, all I'm gonna say is it eased off. I said, all I'm gonna say is I wouldn't let my friend date him. I wouldn't let my sister datium, I wouldn't anyone.

Else I know I date him.

I knew when I Hey, I have spoken to you about this before, and you said I wouldn't let my dog date.

That's that's pretty offensive.

I said I wouldn't let my dog dating, but I never went into details. But I think that's a powerful enough statement. Over the last that was it's got to be ten years ago. Now over the I still get people message, which is crazy that obviously know the connection and ask and now I just don't respond because so much time, so much time. And at the end of the day, do I think he's changed, No, probably not, But I don't know that. I don't know that he hasn't gone and done the work, and he's not an

People from something that could possibly happen.

And I think at the beginning, when it's fresh, if something really traumatic has happened, then you can pass on that information. You don't have to go into detail. But I think what I said is good. I think you can be like, would I want my friend to date him or my daughter to date this person?

No? And I think that's powerful enough in itself.

But after five seven years, like seven years now, I don't think you need to be doing that seven years.

I think the reason why this one really struck me was because it's somebody who I'm friends with, and so therefore I feel like it's not one that I can just skewed around, you know, like and also there is this moment where you're like, am I doing this because I want to protect someone?

Or am I doing it because.

There's an element of getting back at them? You know?

Like not?

And it's not because I harbor any animosity, but it's like, I would never want somebody to go through what I went through in that relationship. So therefore I wonder, like, is the tossing up between what to do here? Is it a byproduct of not wanting someone to go through what I went through, or is it a part of like a well, no, you did that to me, so you know I should be able to tell someone. And I don't know where that lies. I don't know what's

Asked me just literally literally? Is it also?

Have they written to you saying I feel like something's off and they're wanting confirmation or are they saying, hey, I know there's a connection. They tell me about him, spill the goss, because if they're saying something doesn't feel right, can you tell me what your experience was. I would say, go with your gut. If it doesn't feel right, don't be in the relationship.

And I think this was my big lesson I learned from this exchange of the last couple of days is if you ever feel like you need to go and get a character check for some guy that you're dating, if you have the urge to reach out to their ex girlfriend from however long ago, or you know, get a friend to do it.

Whatever it is.

If you feel like you need to character check someone, it's because you should not be dating them, because if you're dating a great guy and all indications are green flags and they're awesome and everything's easy, you wouldn't even have the motivation or the want or any of those feelings. You wouldn't have that thing inside you that's your intuition that tells you something's fucking off here.

I love a character check. I get character checks all the time everyone I've dated.

If yeah, no, but you would just do it as in like you're not reaching out because you're like, hey, I'm reaching out because I think something's off.

My thing is what I'm saying is oh no, I.

Just get a character reference, like if there's a connection totally. Like when I started dating the guy before ben So, I reached out to somebody like a mutual friend that knew him and they weren't even that close to me, but I knew them enough to be like, hey, you just started seeing this guy, what's he like?

Thinking that she was just going.

To write back and be like he's great, go for it so hot, And she wrote back and was like, oh player funck, we are Joe back, And I was like, oh, what was like?

That was not what I was expecting.

And it turned out to be true. Even with Ben now current boyfriend Ben, I reached out to someone in the football world.

What just a random I know him very well. Oh, this is an next boyfriend of yours as well.

Okay with Jay, Oh, okay, my sister's partner.

I thought he has been far out that escalated. My sister's husband.

Jay works in the football world. He's been in the football world for.

His whole life. He knows everything about it.

So I wrote to him and I was like, YO, hooked up with this guy.

What's he like? Is he a bad air than? Is he good? Thinking that you know?

And Jay came back with all his due diligence and he was like, there are no bad articles about him. Apparently he's never strayed, he's never done this, he's never done that. He seems really great. There's a great player. Gave me a full football character reference and he's like, I approve and I was like, great, and that's how I continued on.

Okay, I don't think I've ever done a character check, and maybe I should have.

Maybe that's all we're getting to.

Probably, so the million dollar question, did you tell them the truth?

I feel like I gave a very top line version because, like I said, you know, seven years is so long. And the other part of this is, even if he hasn't changed, even if he's exactly the same person, nothing to do with you.

I don't want to get into the drama. You got two kids, you're married with two kids. It's another lifetime.

Whoever wants that person, and like he he's done enough damage to you, you don't need to be worrying about it anymore. That's how I think. I'm like, you have so much of my energy. Yeah, and time that long ago is if I'm going to give you another speckle of my brain, I don't have that many speckles.

Left, thank you. Exactly. All my speckles are falling out of a three year old and two year old.

All right, Well, before we get into answering your questions, Brittany, what is it that you're vibing this week?

I'm vibing today something simple. Most of you have probably tried it. But I go through these food obsessions, right Like, I just get hooked on something and that's all I consume for a couple of weeks.

Yeah, it was frozen yogurt for a while. Though usually it's frozen coconut with.

Well, I've been stuck. Yeah, it was. That was two That was only two weeks. That was intense. That was an intense two weeks. I'm glad you're over that. I ate it every day and I was like, wew, it's too much.

It was chicken tenders for a while, and I had a chicken Keisha's nodding in the corner. I got Keisha onto the chicken Tender's chicken tender wrap. But now it is the sweet and salty popcorn. I know, it's just so good. It's so moorish in my head.

It's healthy, it's not, but it's also like such a gold NOLDI I feel like everyone's been sweet and salty face.

Yeah, but it's what I'm vibing it hard at the moment.

Okay, So I came across the TikTok this week, and I feel like this is going to truly revolutionize some people's lives. You know, Frank, green water bottles just don't fit in any cup holder in any car, Like.

They're all too fat. They're so fat.

They're so annoying because the base of them is like really thick.

The one lead ones, like the big ones that people get around with.

So if you have a support water bottle that you love, like Kisha, she takes it everywhere, everywhere, everywhere like and carries it around like it's a baby.

It's got a little sippy straw.

Okay, Well, if you have a one leader one and you need it with you at all times, it doesn't fit into the cup holder, very annoying.

There is this new hack.

You can go to buttings and you can get yourself a piece of pipe. It has like a thinner bit at the bottom and then a wider bit on top, and you can put the pipe into your cup holder and then it turns into a cupholder extension and it is fucking mind blowing. I just call that a funnel, don't they? Well, no, it's not a funnel because it's not tubular. It's not like a triangle shape.

It's sit the drink bottle on the seat. Yeah, but annoying rolls around. What if it goes on the floor.

What if you stop really harder around about and then it falls forward onto the floor. But I fucking dig around for a frank green drink bottle. You're not very supported with your emotion if it's on the floor, do you.

Have to dig around? Have you seen the size that have me? Jason Momola and a drink bottle flapping around your car?

Well, anyway, I thought it was a handy little trick and I'm all about it. This week, apparently Frank Green are going to bring out some that they're going to make themselves. I'm sure it'll be nine nine nine. I'm sure to be overpriced. You just go to Buddies get a four dollars fifty years. This is my hot take. I hanger that is a good vibe. All right, let's get into the questions. Question number one. I live with my best friend and we had been living together for

I feel like I'm almost going to go against her family's advice. Sorry, maybe harsh, but I would not be inviting a friend that didn't support my marriage. At the end of the day, she voted no to allowing you the basic human right of marrying somebody you love. I don't think I would have a space for you at my wedding, And if she so strongly thought that you shouldn't get married, I doubt she would want to go to your wedding. I don't understand why the family would

Are you on board? Would you vote yes? If so?

And if she can honestly say, I love you and support you, and I don't know what I was thinking or I was confused, or I can't believe I voted no. If you feel like it's convincing that she supports you, maybe made a mistake. Doesn't believe that anymore than sure invite her. But at the end of the day, she said she didn't want you to marry somebody that you love. To me, it's a strong no.

That is wild.

I just think it's so weird that she could live with you for four and a half years and also be there when you're in the relationship with your partner and not want that happiness for you, Like I find that very invalidating of your relationship, which is.

Why I would say I wouldn't want her at my wedding.

Does that mean that you can't be friends with her if you want to be I mean, I don't think anyone can tell you who you shouldn't shouldn't be friends with. That's completely up to you and where your boundaries lie and whatever you want in your life.

You are entitled to make those decisions.

But I think it would be odd to have somebody who's been vocal about not supporting your marriage at your marriage. And I think that if you do decide to be friends with her, that doesn't mean that you have to invite her to your wedding either. Those two things can

I agree with everything you said, Britt.

I find it almost a bit dismissive maybe of your family, and I know it comes from a place where they know that she's been a part of your life for so long.

They have seen all of her amazing qualities.

We're only hearing about this one isolated thing, but they have seen her and your friendship over many years, and so they know the back history.

But I do think you know, the thing that she's.

Not been invited to your wedding is the thing that has caused the breakdown in your friendship. So I would say that that wasn't your choice. It's not You're not the one who stepped away from the relationship. It's the fact that she doesn't agree with you and your life and your life choices and your ability to have the same privileges in relationships and in marriages what she is entitled to as a heterosexual person. I think that, you know, it's almost a little bit invalidating to say, oh, you

And it's not having a difference in opinion like oh my god, you're so obsessed with exercise in the gym.

I'm so lazy. We can't be friends. This is a huge thing.

This isn't a normal difference of opinion because friends can do that.

Get over it and move on.

This is literally the biggest part of your life and of who you are, and she is saying I'm not okay with it.

I mean, I also get I think it would be a miss of us to not acknowledge the fact that maybe she's religious, maybe there's cultural reasons as to why she doesn't agree, or she morally couldn't vote yes because of whatever it is that she has culturally been brought up in or is exposed to. I understand that, but that doesn't negate the fact that you don't agree with her and that that has affected your life. You know, she's entitled to her opinions, even if we all think

Hey, I don't know.

I think ultimately in this situation, if you feel the way you feel, your wedding day is a day of such a wonderful celebration.

It's so fun.

The last thing you want to be thinking about is having a guest there who didn't want it to happen.

Like you said, you can still be friends.

You don't have to end the friendship if you don't want If she has all these other amazing qualities that you get along with, but she doesn't want to see you get married, so she doesn't have to come to the wedding end of story.

Question two.

So, my boyfriend's twenty four and I'm twenty six. We've been dating for four and a half years. We had a conversation recently. It went along the lines of me, I want to get married soon. What do you think him? I don't not for another six to eight years. Would you wait that long? Me?

Not sure. I'd like to take by take him?

Well, if you loved someone, you would wait for them to be ready. Me. I'm not saying I don't love you. I'm just saying I want to marry you in the next three year years. Anyway, you guys get the point. I want to marry this man, I really do. I don't know if I feel like I want to marry this man as soon as possible because a lot of my friends are getting engaged and married, et cetera. So I'm asking for the expertise opinion.

Lot, you've come to the wrong place.

But we're not experts, and we have never claimed to be. So I'm sorry that you've received false information somewhere.

The question is do I wait until he's ready, even though I really want to get married now, or do I attempt to push my opinion and peer pressure him.

Nothing like peer pressuring a man into marry and locking him down for the rest of existence.

This is a this is tricky look.

I mean, it's a hard one because you've already been together for four and a half years. But like, at the same time, my head goes, Okay, you're twenty four. I understand why. Maybe he doesn't want to rush in yet to get married. Maybe he wants to spend his twenties with you like together, because I think some people think that just because you've gotten married, it means that the next step is that you have to have babies.

Case you have to fuck. You have to wait, like that's the only option.

I actually I understand both sides on this one. I'm gonna be so Switzerland on this. I get both sides, but I'm almost leaning towards his side now. The reason I say this is timelines are different for everybody, but big life events are different for everybody too. Now you are only twenty four when I do the math. Even if you waited six years, you're still currently five years younger than me. I only just got a boyfriend. That's irrelevant. But my point is sometimes time can feel like it's

Just such a weird number. I don't want to marry you for six to eight years. For me, it kind of feels like he's saying six to eight years. I think he's just saying I just don't see it anytime soon. He's just trying to say, let's cruise, let's rush. He's not going to be like, in six point five years, will do it. I think he has put a number that's so far in the future that it takes it

Yeah, I mean I hope not. Okay.

For example, Claire Stevens, she works with Mum and me Ar. She's one of the executive editors Jesse Stephen's sister, twin sister. She's just gotten married I think three days ago ago. Yes, she has just gotten married after being with her partner for eleven and a half years. I'm making a Oh, Keisha's corrected me. Fourteen years a long time, A long time. So look, it's not to say that just because you have a really long dating period that you're never going

They're two different conversations. And it's the reason too.

Are you wanting to get married because you're ready to have kids and you want to be married before you have the kids because he sounds like he's not ready to have the kids. Yeah, it's a conversation between the two of you. What do you want in what timeline and what compromise can you both come to because you both want different things at different times, which is okay, but you're going to have to meet in the middle in some capacity.

I think it's an interesting thing though, this idea of marriage in terms of for some people it is the signifier that they're ready to progress life quicker. So like for some people it's like, oh, well, now that we're married, yeah, of course we're gonna have kids and then you know, and it kind of speeds up the process, I think.

Everybody is quite different.

But I think it also comes down to people's perception of timeline after marriage, because for me, I think I always saw it as like, well, once I get married, I will have children very shortly afterwards. Like I always kind of thought of it in that progression terms that I had children before the wedding. So really went out of the fucking window, didn't I.

One of my really good friends got married, so we're thirty five. She got married ten years. Basically she's just twenty five and they want kids but haven't had them yet because for them, they were happy to get married and then just live a life married without rushing into the kid thing, which is fine, but you still have to be on par with your partner. You don't have to decide what it is. It's okay to be married for ten years before having kids.

I also think like it is hard when you're twenty four years old and your friends around you are getting married, especially if they're people who haven't been in relationships for as long as you have, Like if you've been in your relationship for four and a half years, and then some of your friends who are of similar age, which is quite young to get married, but there's nothing wrong

All right, we wrapped it. Question three.

Question three, Galza needs some help. A colleague of mine wears open toad gardening shoes the horror into the office every single day, and I do not want to see your nasty toes when I'm trying to work. So my question is this, Are open toad shoes okay to wear in the office?

And can I tell them that I find it disturbing? Produce a gijua?

This sounds oddly familiar, doesn't it.

Here's my toe, Laura Burn, Oh my god, the feet are actually dirty.

Sorry about that? Because she did you write this question? Laura Burn? My feet.

You are the worst person I have ever met for putting those hoofs everywhere. You always wear open tose shoes. Fine, that is fine. You flip them off in a heartbeat. Wherever you go, you kick them off, and then your feet are everywhere. I have in my car still, and you haven't been in my car for a while, so I need to clean more.

You need to stop doing it.

I have your footprint on my car windshield because when you get in my car, you flip your shoes off.

Her feet, You put your feet up.

On my windscreen and I'm driving and i can just see them and I'm like, oh, she's my friend.

I'll there's a lot of.

Do it and I'm like, oh my god, everywhere, and then you wriggle them around.

I'm really glad that you finally got this out.

I've not been your cuff for months, like literally, I really believe.

Looking at that, like four months and haven't just wiped. I mean, not that you need to wipe my foot. What is it? Foot juice? What is it? What is it? Exactly?

It's what oil. It's just oil skin oil. Like putting your face against the window, trying to make it sound cute than it is. It's twenty four carro gold foot. It is foot juice, and it is rank. I think it's okay at the end of the day.

It's okay to wear open like all of us today have an open toe form of shoe on.

I have a slide. You have like birkenstocks. Keisha has crocs.

They've all got little I mean Keisha's are semi covered, but they've got air holes so that she doesn't get the foot juice. It's okay for somebody to wear whatever shoe. They want to work, but it's not okay putting it on the desk.

That's my point, Like, okay, thank you, this just turned into a roast. It's not about me. No, sticking his feet on your computer screen? Like what that's what you do? Yeah, but I don't work in an office, so.

You still work with me. I am your office No, I am your office mate.

You seen me nude photos and take it dump when I'm in the room next to you, like it's fine.

Oh, the Queen of poop is trying to deflect. She poops all the time. I've never dumped next to you.

How many times have you literally like walked through the house naked or like taken a bra off in front of me? Some people would pay for that totally, but I'm not, and I get subjected to it all the time. So don't you start trying to bring in office rules and regulations.

What's happening here?

What did you just do two minutes ago? And then say cut that out? You literally flashed your boobies, you took your shirt down, and you.

Were like, oh what, Okay, clearly we don't have a normal office. No, we don't, and so we are not the standard by which anybody should live. I have not worked in an office for sixteen years, but you have an office for Tony May and I have my feet out.

All the time, and I don't care. I don't care.

Unfortunately, if people have a footed version, they can get their feet out. Everyone can have their feet out. Feet don't offend me. I think that there are two types of people in the world. People who are really offended by feet, and then people who literally can't put their feet on the ground. Like if you're sitting, your feet need to be up on the chair, They need to be up on a dash. They just like cannot sit

I've done that before. But yeah, but what you.

Put your foot on other people's arm ress? I want a plane when I'm on a plane, no, not the arm rest. When I'm like you right, I cannot sit normally even when we're doing radio one. Legg is up under my chin, like I'm always on a plane if I'm near the window, do you ever shove your feet into the little like it's like a pouch, do I just put your feet on the pouch and like rest them.

I try and squish it in between the chair and the window, but without it going past.

Safe So you've only got a back, You've only got like.

A seven mil depth room to move. So I squished my foot in there because I need my foot to be up and balanced, but I'd never let it flip through.

Once my big toe tickled someone's arm.

What mortified as the Kishra is having a mental breakdown. And I know that there are going to be people who are also finding this disturbing, and then there will be people who are like sitting in their cars wherever you're listening to this, and they're gonna be like, yeah, me too, I'm fucking gross And it is a compulsion. We can't help it. I can't sit with my feet on the ground. It drives me like like I just can't my feet. Don't do it.

It is not okay in an office.

So I agree you can wear open toe shoes to an office, but if your colleague obviously it's different for us. We're taking a pierce, but we're all really close friends. If you're an office and your colleague has the toe nails on your desk or very close to or in your line of sight, if they're in the cubicle next to you and you're typing and all you're seeing your peripheral is this gross fungus toe or something, then yeah,

No? No, do you know what? And I'm going to come to this from the other perspective.

If they're not putting their feet somewhere, which is inappropriate, I ate on the desk. If they're just coming to work wearing open toad shoes, it's it's more efficient for them. I think, like we're weirdly offended by feet a lot of people. I think if it's just that they're coming in wearing open toed shoes and you don't like their feet, it's like saying to someone you have ugly hands, wear gloves, like they don't have to wear clothes, toe shoes, to work.

I don't agree with that.

You have to be very careful about how you talk to people who you work with in terms of telling someone that you don't like something about because people are very sensitive and that would be a very offensive thing, especially if he doesn't see those shoes as being open you know, you see them as being open toe gardening shoes.

You just don't know what's going on in someone's life.

So I feel like, be very careful, even like working with somebody who maybe doesn't have like I mean, I've definitely been in a situation where I've work with people who don't have good body odor, and it's like, how do you approach that conversation.

It's a really tricky one. And I'm not talking because it's personal.

Yeah, it could be hormonal, it could be something that they're dealing with from their from like you know, like a condition, Like you just don't know, and you don't want to offend someone or be seen as being outwardly rude, So I think if it's an inconvenience to you, get over it.

That's how I feel about it. At the end of the day.

The only way you can have a problem with this is if the feet are invading your space in terms of inappropriately on desks or inappropriately close to you, not grounded. So if he's just wearing these shoes to work, you can't.

Have a problem with it.

People can wear whatever they want these days. But if it's all up in your face, of course you can say anything. Otherwise, let it go. What's an open toe gardening shoot?

Like a thong? What is it? Exactly?

Because you shouldn't garden with open toes estein like is it a birkenstock?

What's an open toe gardening shoe? There's a real that's the real question. That's the real point of this question. That we have an unpacked We'll have a google an open toe gardening shoe.

So we don't go I'm imagining.

Those shoes that have like the toes on them, like as in like the toes sectioned out, but there then the toes are cut off.

It's just the toes like rif shoes.

You know, people have them and they wear them out in the real world. I don't know who's gardening with their toes out.

Pretty sure Osha owns.

A pair of those like shoes that have like the toes in them. He may come for me, because that may be a complete lie, but I feel like I've seen him wear toe shoes before.

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