Toxic Productividad

up guy? Since Carolina, it's so crazy because we record this for audio, but we are on video, and it's like before I was like, should I look good for Carolina? And then I was like, nah, she's getting to some block and that's all she's getting. I'm sorry, No, that's

exactly what I'm giving you two. I mean, honestly, when you're working from home, I went through so many different phases of Okay, I'm gonna be motivated, I'm still gonna wake up at the same time, and then that quickly went away, and then it was like one hour later, so I really need to put on my my mascara today. Yeah, nobody's gonna see me. So now it's just like now you get the real me, which I love and that's a fact. Uh, let's see, so let's just check and

make sure. We hope that you guys are enjoying the fact that we are back. We are loving that we can come back to you guys. Um it's almost like when you don't ride a bike for a long time, where you don't do an activity. You know, you're just we're finding our footing again, and it's just really crazy since we're still not in the office. You know what, It's great, Carolina. The whole time we did life in Spanish, it always just felt like a conversation between me and you.

So it's like me it came back like Okay, now we're catching up every single week and we're recording it for other people to hear about it exactly. So No, we are just so glad that we are back on track and that we are giving you guys the shows, and we've been encouraging you to send us your info and any questions and stuff that you guys might have. But today we're going to talk about something that Honey wanted to discuss that I'm really interested in hearing all about.

And I want you to set this up honey, because I feel like it's going to be so helpful to so many people. You know, it's it's something that I'm dealing with right now, and it's the dangerous trap of toxic productivity. What this means is when you're always on when it comes to work and being productive, and eventually it becomes plain o unhealthy and unhelpful. For a lot of us, being home for this past year or working from home means that we constantly want to be doing

something one unproductive, especially when it comes to work. Me, I am so so big on like being honest, right, if I'm working from home, I want to constantly be working, even if it's just an amount of hours I'm supposed to be on. Let's say, like I work seven to three from the moment I wake up. I want to be productive and sometimes it's spilling over. Can I tell you this, Carolina, Like maybe like the two hours right before I wake up, I'm doing like an inventory in

my sleep about what I need to get done. Oh so it's just starting from even when you're in bed. Yes, I'm doing the rundown. Like I never thought about what I needed to do when I got into the office

before while I was sleeping. You probably thought about it though when you're commute, right, Like, I'm just wondering why you're instituting it now, like in your downtime maybe because like during your commute, you would have gotten on the training or the bus or whatever it is, and like you would have started plotting out like Okay, when I get to work, I'm gonna do X, Y and Z. So maybe because you've eliminated that step from your routine,

maybe like while you're in bed, this is what's happening. I mean, for me, it translates as anxiety, like because I'm constantly going through like oh my gosh, did I do this? Did I forget this? A target? Do I need to go to b JS? Do I? You know what I mean? So if there's like a constant tally going on in my brain of the things that I need to take care of, but you know, it's crazy. At least I was waiting before. Now I'm sleeping doing

I can't believe that. So what like is it dreaming or is it just for a state of sleep that you can remember, because I don't remember anything anymore. I'm semi conscious, Like I feel like, let's say we're making a big announcement. Yeah, by like five thirty six, I'm tossing and turning the announcement back to sleep a little bit, the announcement back to sleep a little bit, and you know this whole I guess I'm trying to be productive

in my sleep. Isn't that crazy? I feel like it is definitely like a state of anxiety, you know what I mean, because like okay, for example, like your station was announcing that you were having a concert, like maybe it's in your subconscious you know what I mean, like all the things that you need to make sure that it gets executed the right way. And that one was big, like I was, I was leading, I was running a point, like everybody was coming to me for everything on this

as far as the digital space goes. So yeah, you are right. I did have a lot of anxiety. I wanted to make sure that nothing went wrong. And it was like announced it was at seven am. Imagine I was a slept and ship didn't go off. I said, oh my gosh, And that would happen to me. That would happen to me. It's always the days when you have like the most important thing or for me, when we were working at the building the days that we had an interview and I needed to get their extra early.

There was an accident on the l I E. Jack Knife tractor trailer. You know what I mean. It was just like, those are the breaks. But that's why you gotta be able to roll with things. So something that my brother told me a long, long time ago, and I use it to this day. That's why my husband makes so much fun of me, because I love office supplies. I love little notebooks. I love jotting things down. And

my brother actually told me. He's like, whenever you have a thought, and this is my brother Rene, whenever you get overwhelmed, because I always have a million things going on in my head. He said, whenever you have a thought, write it down. And he's like, and I'm not talking about notes in your iPhone. Get yourself a little notepad and it doesn't even matter. It's almost extreme of consciousness.

You know. I'll think of something funny, you know what I mean, Like that somebody else is I'm like, oh my gosh, that's funny. I want to use that. I'll write that down. Or if I think of a birthday idea for my kids in the future, I'll be like, oh wow, I could do this for their minecraft birthday. Even if I don't use it. It's there and I could exactly. And I see that you have a notebook now, so is this like something that you're doing too, Like I like to like make notes when I do meetings

and stuff. I take notes because always somebody comes back and they're like, oh no, that wasn't said. I'm like, yes, it was. Reverts back to notes and I'm be over here with my little paper and he keeps seats everybody. It's like, now how we're moving differently. It's like, now we'll be in the meeting a bunch of people talking over each other. I might hear something that you don't hear, and I can come back to you and be like, hey,

we miss this step. Going back to toxic productivity, right, I feel like it's a service, Like we feel like we're being productive. Oh my god, I'm making so much use of my time and from seven am to nine

pm I'm busy. But it's taking a toll on a lot of people mentally, you know, And now you're not even being as productive as you can be because you're burnt out and it's just plainal unhealthy in my opinion, you know, and it's unrealistic that as a human we can constantly be productive, like all day and all night.

There's a reason why they said, you know, I mean, and I don't know a lot of different religions, like they believe differently, but there's a reason why you have a day of rest in the week you're supposed to. Your body needs it, your heart needs it. You do you need to just press the resept But then we are just constantly on go serio to sleep. And that's where I think the lines are blurred. I don't know

how to set boundaries. If somebody emails me at a p M. I'm answering by eight oh three, And that's something I'm struggling with. That is toxic productivity. Even like let's say, like, yes, jirty, I was in church, right, I'm getting messages on teams asking for things, and I'm like, why am I in the middle of a sermon checking teams? Like You've got to fix yourself. This is not good for you. I aven like constantly checking emails, text teams, d ms, like I want to make sure I don't

miss anything. But then I know other people that would never even think about checking anything work related on a on a weekend, nonetheless on a Sunday. I'm like, teach me your ways, please, because you know, like I took some time off from work, but I still don't want to be viewed as like, oh, because you had a stroke, you're not as productive, or because you had a stroke,

like you know, things are falling behind. So I'm like constantly trying to like overprove myself, not even just prove myself, overproved myself. I'm the one that answers in one minute. I'm the one that if somebody needs something converted into something, I'm doing it. And it's killing me. I'm not even

gonna lie to you. It's killing me. And it's killing my relationship to a certain extent because my husband can't have a conversation with me over dinner without me making sure I'm checking the Holy Trinity, which is text message email teams, and I keep repeating the same circle, you know, at least once an hour, even when I'm not on the clock. And I'm sure I'm not the only one suffering from this, especially we're working from home. You know, you know what your boss to think, like you're slacking

off because they're not seeing you before. It's like, fuck it. As long as I'm here, they know I'm here and I'm working. But it's like working from home now it's changing. Well, Okay, first of all, I appreciate your honesty because I think that you are being very forthright and honest about what you're struggling with, right, and so I'm definitely not gonna shame you, but I will say this, you have to set the boundary. I was at church yesterday too, and you know, I did not look at my phone one

time because it's tucked away. You know. I think that there's an issue with us, even just as Americans in general, and a lot of people say like, oh, the Europeans are doing it the right way. You know, there are so many countries that have adopted four day work weeks now, especially after the pandemic, and I think it is the right way to do things. You know, two days for a weekend, you basically don't even have enough time to

do things for you. So now it's allowing people that on a Friday, if they want to go to a doctor's office, that they have the ability to do that. Or you know, if they want to take off of Monday whatever whatever schedule it is that they're doing. But those boundaries have to be set by you. So I'm

the opposite, honey, like I have started. Now, if you text me and if it's something that I don't immediately need to get back to you for I will, I will let you wait because I don't want to set that tone that I'm going to get back to you thirty seconds after you text me. When it's work related, you really do have to let people know I am not yours seven because you are not mine seven. When you have a question and then you need help and you reach out, are people that quick to get back

to you. And I have coworkers that do it, and I admire them and I'm like wow, and I want to be like them that they have no problem being like I did not work at that time, or I do not work Saturday, so I do not work Sundays, or I work until five and Carolina, never in my life would I ever write some ship like that anywhere where someone that works with me can read I want to change, Well, is really like what it is? You know? And I mean and I think that your concern is

something that you're putting on you. If somebody's going to be a jerk and be like wow, you know, she is an answering after you know, she came back from taking nine months. You were not on vacation, you were working on rebuilding your life literally, so you know what, if it takes you an hour to get back to somebody, they're going to have to deal with it. And look, I mean this is the issue. I think. If it's pressing,

if it's urgent, absolutely get back to people. But if it's some bullshit, which you know, in our industry, people are email bullshit requests just to make sure that they look like they're working, you know what I mean. That's where I feel like you have to have a better filter of you know, and it's not easy. It's not easy for me either, you know. I mean it is. You'll be judged, you know, like at this one, she's a diva. Don't hit her after five, She'll be gone Friday.

After five. You can't pay one, that's right, So keep talking about me while I'm out at five thirty with my girls relaxing because I deserve it. You know, there are ways even during just you know, just let's say Monday through Friday nine to five or whatever your schedule is.

There are ways where you can take, you know, a little break, like I have a little list here that I want to share with our list in case, you know, in case somebody is struggling, but no cell phones, you know, while you're eating, like, no computer, no cell phone, put everything away. You know how you used to have breakfast and then you would go off a one hour lunch. You know, take an hour lunch. Don't look at your cell phone. I wouldn't even bring my computer home for

the pandemic Carolina, honestly speaking. Also, you know, just take a break, you know, take a break after you're working. Let's take three hours, steady, take out a break, you know, even if it's a little walk. Go outside your house, get some fresh air, pop open the window, and you know, just look outside for like five minutes. Also, you know, set aside specific days and times to spend with your partner or spouse, your kids, your family. So I guess

that would be Saturday and Sundays. And also get a good night sleep. Make sure that you know you're getting at least seven or eight hours of sleep if you can. Huh, that's oh seven to eight hours. I'm lucky if I get five. I went to bed at nine o'clock last night because we had something made your happening this morning. So I'm like, you know what, let me go to sleep, and you know, no, he was like, do you mind if I go out for a little while, you know, meet a friend for a drink, and you know what,

I said, no, go for it. I'm the one that needs to be asleep at nine because I'm the one that needs to be up early. So you know, give him that freedom. Also, you know, make sure you're eating throughout the day, you know, and drinking your water. I think that so many people forget to do really, like you're so busy taking care of everybody else. You know.

Me if you tell Acolf in the morning, you know, and he's like, you don't say, I'm like, hell, don't know, I'm busy, And I'm like, no, you know what, Yeah, bring me some grapes. I deserve to eat. You know. Yeah, my job is very important, but so am I. You know, make sure that if you guys are out here, you know, suffering from toxic productivity, Also that you're feeding yourself and you're nourishing yourself. Another thing is also, you know, detaching

from social media. I don't know how you do that. I mean, honestly, I really don't, because that is your job. I detached a little too much, you know where I'm actually poked by our you know, people that work with us in the digital department sometimes they're like, hello, you know, you gotta engage. You've got to do this, but like you didn't do more. I know, and it's it's hard, but yeah, for us, like we constantly have to be looking at what celebrities are doing. Oh my god, such

and such announced to tour three hours ago. You missed it. Okay, here I am looking like the ultimate slacker. But it's not that I wasn't on for three hours. I was working on a project, or I was on teams, or I was on here. You know, you have to detach on social media if you can, and you know, if it's really effective, you talk to a mental health professional. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Oh please my therapist. She has been working over time. She has been doing

such a great job. Seriously, I mean, I really do I she's making that co pay, you know, I mean, I'm I think I may have purchased a purse for her or something she might have like cooked herself up with, like a nice jacket for fall or winter. From all the times that I've called her something that you brought up health we do should we do? Zoom appointments on Wednesday nights. I tell Mark, take the boys, go watch the Flash. I need my forty five minutes with my girl.

He knows, he knows the drill. He gets bedtime started. And it has been one of the biggest, biggest things for me this past year that has been such a positive change. It really has. I've always gotten to therapy, but like really keeping that appointment and talking to her and and helping her understand kind of like what I'm going through. She has just been a tremendous help for me. Something that you said at the beginning of the list, though, is a major rule in our house, and I always

say it to everybody in People don't believe me. We don't have phones at the dinner table. I still cook for my kids. We yes, like and I don't cook every night. I mean I'll even get like take out or you know, we got Chinese food last week, like whatever, you know, even if it's take I don't care. The only thing we are allowed to have at the dinner table is music on the alexa. I'm gonna definitely adopt that because you know, sometimes we go out to dinner

and I'm like, we look stupid. We're spending all this money off to dinner and you're not talking to me, and I'm not talking to you, Like, what are you looking at? You didnt see that story I put up Moony, We're like at a rooftop. I'm like, what are you

looking at? It was? But like, you know, I look at people like sometimes I spend the room and I'm like, not talking to each other, not talking to each other, entire family on their cell phones, first date, already, not interacting, and I'm like, I don't want to be that, and I'm like, put the phone away. And I'm gonna put my phone away too. So definitely gonna adopt that when it comes to the house too. Well, it's human connection, honey, you know, and it's like something that has turned into

something really cool in our families. So it's like, you know, little Asher, Asher loves Kilroy the kid Roy Okay here, he's obsessed with him. So every night somebody gets to choose the music, and sometimes it's so sweet, like Noah puts on what he thinks I want to hear. So the other day he goes, Mommy, why don't we listen to um dinner jazz? And I said, we could listen to dinner jazz? Is that if you want? And he was like, mom, can we change this? I said, yeah,

you know what. We tried it. We didn't like it, but this is my shot to like play for them music that they might not be exposed to, you know what I mean. So it's like, right now, no one's going through a real Eminem phase, you know, And that's my first I do not know. But if he loves something, he will research it. And he's going through his Eminem phase. And I said, you know, we listened to a couple of Eminem songs and I was like, this sounds a

little angry for dinner. Can we switch it up? And then you know, But but but what I'm saying is like there's that human connection when we're talking about things. We're talking about something that he's interested in. We do not use any devices, whether it's at home or out. And Mark is a big believer in this because Mark doesn't is never on his phone, So it's a beautiful gift that we give each other and just connecting with the kids. And I think it's so important for people

to like really try to start adopting that. Put your phone in your bedroom and leave it there, you know what I'm saying, Especially if you're on your phone all day when you work, put it on silent, put it away. Your family matters just as much as you your career or making money. And you know, feeling good, you know, feeling physically well and having a good mindset, it's also

going to help you do better work. Right, you run yourself down to the ground and you're on twenty four hours day, you're of no good to nobody, work or family. It's like you have to be healthy in order to be properly successful. At least that's my take on it. Have you ever heard this term? My mom would say, it's like when you are just you are freaking done, like you are just spent. You know, for us, it's that that, yes, I mean it's like that's it, it's over.

You don't squeeze was done. You know, no more ounces left, and you don't want to be that person, you know, it's very true. And I think that this is something that you may have realized too. It's like everybody always talks about my job, my job, my job, Your job is not going to be there when you need them. Like I remember these memes saying like if you die, like your job will post your job within the next week.

Don't even give them a week. They might do it in twenty four hours, you know what I mean, hold on, hold on, yeah, And it's like and then you're sacrificing your time with the people who actually would be there for you or would actually care, you know, about your existence. So that's where I think that we really need to shift our thinking. And it's a good conversation to have, like, look, we're not perfect. I know. I definitely fall into the

trap sometimes, you know. And even I feel like it was a month or two ago, I got asked to do something for work at five thirty that same PM, and I felt that same pressure and it's like, listen, I've been up since four thirty in the morning doing the morning show. You're gonna ask me to do something five thirty. That's prime time with my kids, man, you know. But it was the one off and I said, you

know what, I want them to rely on me. I want them to see that I am a good worker and that's the reason why I committed to it, you know. But like I have no regrets about doing things like that. It's when it becomes a pattern that you've got to like set your boundaries. Also, we're with our you know, field of work. Let's say, like we do commercials. Sometimes it's like somebody like, oh, I need this like right now.

And then it's just like you think, like do I want this person to be like I'm never working with you again? Or do you want this person like, oh wow, thank you so much. And then more money comes later, So it's like it's a weird. It's a weird. It's like such a little gray area because you want to stay in your ground and be like, nah, how are you expecting to find a studio right now and record this and have it over like in ten minutes, Like come on, give me a couple of days to get

this together. But then it's like, Okay, if this person gonna get mad at me and never use me again, well, but you know what, honey, then I'm thinking about people who might be listening to us right now. So let's let's think about that. And they're not in our industry

and they're not working the jobs that we are. Like maybe you are a nurse, or maybe you are a healthcare practitioner, maybe you are a teacher, and you're feeling the same way because it is not industry specific, you know, really, you know it's not and it's just like everybody right now, it's just like, you know, you want to keep your job. You know, it's it's it's hard out here. You want

to keep your job. It's like, let's say, like when I was in the legal field, right sometimes they'd be like, Okay, we're going to trial next week. You know, oh you have to stay, and it's like and you would be a salary employee. There's no hourly or anything like that, and then it's just like how do you get up and just walk. Let's say you're a paralegal right now, working, like how do you set your boundaries? Yeah, all the lawyers are there, but guess what they own the firm.

They want to stay there till nine ten o'clock a night. Really, that's on them. If you're not getting paid one more penny, like you might just want to leave and go make dinner for your kids and you know, spend some time with your husband. It's so hard. It's so hard. I mean in theory it sounds so great. It's just adopting these things and finding that voice to be able to say, like, no, I can't stay until nine o'clock at night because I'm

not making the same money that you do. I can't pay my sitter to stay an extra three hours because I'm making X amount of money, you know. I mean, there's just this is just such an epidemic in our country and it's something that needs to be addressed. And you know what's crazy, Carolina. Like in the legal field, I was always like office manager in charge of the paralegals, you know, and sometimes uh, we would interview people and the lawyers would be like, oh no, she talked about kids.

Hell no, she's gonna want to leave on time every day? Na, Na, No, what about the other one? Did she have kids? You know, as illegal as that is at witness it, you know, like, oh no, what she says she has kids and what time childcare? And then you might not even get that shot. So it's like, if you do have the job now as a mom, you don't want to be like, I

gotta leave. You don't want to lose your job, especially when you work in private that from one day to another, they were like, nah, that's it, pack your desk, today's your last day. Because you know, a lot of jobs don't even give you notice because they don't want you to go do no craziness, you know. But I have been in rooms where the bosses or the hiring partners might be like, nah, the one way kids. You know, she's always gonna want to be off on holidays. You know,

she's always gonna talk about babysitter and busses. So it's it's even harder from moms, you know, to set those boundaries because you don't want to be viewed as the one that never can stay late. I don't care. I tell it. I tell it, and I don't care because it's my truth. And and I feel like I am doing a service to other women, maybe the women that are coming up behind me that will, you know, or after me, I tell the truth because like, for example, we can't find a nanny. You guys, tell me right

now that you have been looking for childcare. There are a ton of people who are in the same position that I am right, I can't do certain things. I gotta get my kids on the bus. This is my life situation. And as a manager, people need to understand you have different types of individuals working for you. So I don't hide any of that stuff. Do I try to make it happen? Yes, I do, because I do

love and value my job. But I also think it's important for people like me to set up that those those realistic scenarios because guess what, I do need to be home by three pm to get my kids off the bus or they're taking these little guys back to school, and I'm not willing to have them, no, for real, and I don't want them to have this traumatic experience all like, oh my mom was late and they made just go back to school and going back to school

and the bus, understand, And that's why I'm like, people have all these thoughts too, you know, they get worried. It's fear exactly, and I'm not willing to do that for my kids. So guess what, you don't get all of me right now because I have a bigger responsibility my humans, my babies are more important than this job. If I can make it happen. I will, but if I can't, not gonna do it. And I think that it's important for women who are in this position to

be more outspoken. I know it's scary, but I do it all the time. And I even will stay to my manager. I know you can't relate, but this is my situation. But because he doesn't have children, you know, And and I'll always preface it with that, you know. So it's not like we're looking for a way out, it's we're looking for understanding. No, And it's a it's a huge responsibility. It's a whole another little human that

can't care for himself. I don't even going to ask me why I love my eight my six year old alone, because now you've got that for real. I mean think about that, talk about knock knock knock, not to not me, honey, not me. So now you know that's like the furthest extreme. But you know you've got to like think of things.

And that's where it's like toxic productivity really does come into play, especially post COVID, especially when you have people asking you to do more at different times, and you know, for me, I just say, we have to find a balance. You've got to give a little, and you've got you you do. You have to give a little in certain scenarios, and then you have to also take a little too. Yeah, you know, I'll be like, Okay, let me do it this one time, Carolina. Do you feel like you work

more now during COVID that you work from home? I work differently, I'll say that I do. I work differently. Like you know, there were a bunch of meetings and things, like back in the day, they would be like, oh, do you want to meet and I'm making up this uh you know, I'll say like, oh, do you want to meet with this yogurt company at three pm? I'm

like three pm? I can't, you know. Or whenever they would have like these client meetings, they would always be like in the middle of the afternoon at the most inopportune times, and you have to suck it up. You're like, yes, I you know, I'll be there. Now. What's happening is they're asking you to either do videos or join zooms do these client meets, and you feel like you can't say no because you don't have to physically be there. So I'm doing more of those because now I actually

can do them, you know what I mean? Whereas before I physically sometimes I would be like I'll pop in, but then I gotta get on the l I E. Because I need you know, traffic and you know whatever. For me, it definitely, I don't know why I feel like I worked twice as hard again, It's because I'm having this problem setting boundaries. Let's say I work seven to three. Never in my life at three pm would I stop answering emails till tomorrow at seven am. So

it's just no for sure. And let's say meetings now that now that we work from home, people don't care scheduling three meetings back to back, Like let's say Thursday Thursday, I had five meetings Carolina five. When I used to go in, I would have one meeting on Wednesday's at twelve thirty that and then every now and then that was like a recurring meeting. And then every now and then maybe something else would come up and then we would you know, huddle up. But now people don't care.

They look at your calendar and they're like, oh, you have a break right here at boom meeting, meeting, meeting, So yeah, the slickest like sneakiest thing that I think people are doing now looking at your outlook, I'm like, that is wrong. Do not even and I always tell people I don't update my outlook, so you don't even know what's going on in my life, you know, you know, we also use teams, and on teams, everyone can see your calendar that they can see if you're on a call,

they can see if you're in a meeting. They can see if you're sharing your screen. They can see when you have free times. Sometimes somebody will come back like, oh, I looked at everyone's calendar Thursday at to everyone in the street and boom, guess what meeting? Nah, this technology is not for me. I'm telling you, I want to be off the grid. I want to be incognito witness protection. Do not calendar. It says last scene. So if you if you don't look at at teams, let's stay for

two hours. Let's say it'll say last scene at a forty am. And then you don't want that because they come like, where you've been for two hours? You're not working? Yeah, well you know what my work is in other areas too. Come on, Like I know people who are like hold on I'll be on the phone with them, like hold on, let me move my mouth so that they can see that I'm active. It's a lot of pressure, I'll tell you.

That is so intrusive. That is really I am so glad we don't work on that system because I'll be honest with you. I don't need anybody knowing what I'm doing where I'm going, you know what I mean, Like I moved differently, and I don't need you guys keeping taps on me like that. This is crazy. Do you want to talk about something fun? I feel like we need a little vino right now for this. I want to talk about Jennifer Loglus you like I would think of benefit. I just think that j Lo can do

no wrong. Somebody asked me if I was over her, and I said never in my life. I don't. I want her to keep being the most extra. I want her to wear her her own face on her T shirt. I want I want her to do these things for us, do it. I was watching Latino videos on Vivo and where she wore the cut off, the booty cutoffs and she was on the in the beach on all fours. I haven't seen it, girl, This well it's a little older.

But I wish I just happened to catch it. I had never actually seen it, And I'm like, bro, this woman is insanely talented, you know. I know people like to get on her about her voice. But whatever the fact that she's been able to parlay this career all these years without having pipes please stop. But yeah, but no. But the fact that she did, you know, bring job role on on set, you know, and she brought it back to our roots, you know, her day one roots. It made me proud, and you know, a lot of

us have to do this still. You know, when I when I ride around Manhattan, I saw my husband bring me to a hundred and fifty first and Broadway. That's my building. You know what I'm saying, I want to go see my old hood. You know what's crazy, Carolina. My family had that apartment for like twenty years when my thea lived there, my mom's sister, and I was able to go and I would knock on the door and I would go see my old bedroom and it

was amazing. It pains me to know that, you know, we no longer have this apartment health hostage from its landlord. You guys got rid of that ring control. What what were you thinking? Girl? It was my I was being greedy. She probably got like fifty g's and and moved along,

you know what I'm saying. But we had that since I went to elementary school, and I always tell my husband drive me two D and first history, that's your history, you know, and it just feels good and it kind of like grounds you once again once you start getting detached and like where you came from, you know, where your hood was from, like your roots. So watching them together on stage that it made me feel good and made me feel like, wow, j Loo, you're kind of

still one of us. Yeah, so it's definitely speaks. So yeah, definitely my bank account does not look like j Lo's. Uh there does my pancake booty. But that's another episode that we can discuss. Uh No. But for real, I think going back to like staying connected to your roots, who you are, where are you're from. I think that that's the reason why I'm always so proud to tell people that, like, I'm from Ohio, this little small town.

And then whenever people like whenever people acknowledge as they're like, oh my gosh, you know I thought that you were from Miami or I thought you were a New Yorker. I'm like, no, you know, it is good to always remember, like, you know, because it takes you back to those days when you were hungry, when you wanted something, you know, and and it connects you to a different set of people,

you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not embarrassed. It's like, yo, I remember on Riverside dry when the Welfare of bus pulled up and I stood on Lyne waiting for my government cheese. Girl, that government cheese was big. We made grill cheese probably for years off that big. But you know, you know, it gives you. You know, people want people that are relatable. They don't want to admire you. They

don't want to empty you. You know I'm saying, granted, yeah, oh nice office, oh right here, but are you like me? And you know that's always been my goal, just to make you know, let's say, our listeners here feel like I can relate to them and they can relate to me. I don't want you to admire me. I don't want you to empty me. I don't want you to be your relationship goals. I just want you to feel like I understand where you came from and your pain. You

know what I'm saying. And it's just sharing who we are, where we come from, and even revisiting it makes you, it makes you look like, yeah, you know what she did all this, but she's still one of us. And that's how you're embraced. And you know I re embraced j Loo you did. I love that. So now it's a love fest because I will never ever turn my

back on her. Seriously, because some people think she's doing the most with benefit and all of the stuff that she has going on, and I'm like, listen, you've got one life to live. Enjoy it to the fullest. I'm glad I Nator's witnessed benefit two points. Oh I mean, and just wait until the wedding. Baby, we will discuss it at length, because you know, to get married. Yes, she loves love. She's the modern day Elizabeth Taylor. All the weddings. Get them diamonds, baby, go for it, get

all the diamonds. I don't care. I want to watch you. I want to celebrate she you. I am here for it, not one ounce of jealousy. So there you have it. This was good conversation, bro, I loved it. I don't know, I feel emotional. It's weird, Like I feel like we touched on so many different things. It feels good. I feel like I just unloaded a bunch of it on you and the listeners. As long as it's cathartic, you know. I mean, that's what it is. And this is a

two way street, you know. We, like I said at the beginning of the episode, we want to hear from you. We want to know, like, what is on your mind, what are the topics that you want to discuss, what issues are you facing? How can we help you? Because this is a relationship. It's a two way street, you know. So definitely hit us up on social media at l I Spanglish, I'm at the Real Carolina and I am Honey German. It's so weird because my instagram is I am Honey German. So when I said it just always

sounds weird, but not. Thanks for rocking with us today was a really, really amazing conversation. Life and Spanglish is a production of Life and Spanglish Productions in partnership with My Heart Michael Podcast Network.