Do You Trust ChatGPT and Artificial Intelligence?

like this one. You're in another country right now, Carolyne, No, this one is I mean this one because I am like, I can't believe you, of all people are embracing this and you are on board. I have never been more against something. And by the way, I will tell you, Honey, my husband tells me I need to get with the times. So thank you. Mark. Listen, we're talking about chat, GPT and AI as a whole, and Carolina, this is a big, big,

big deal. Like I don't know if our listeners are you know, hip to what's going on right now, but this is this new right now. It's a website that you can use, and you go in there and it'll answer questions for you, it'll write an essay for you, it'll summarize some documents for you. It can even write software. But here's the kicker, Carolina. This AI doesn't even know what's true, so you can't really rely on it for

important things. But I feel like it's it's a tool that humans can use and can benefit from, but you're not here for it at all. I German, have you ever seen the terminator Babe Arnold with Arnold? Yeah, yeah, he was like a killer. He wasn't helping. Now, the machines took over, the robots took over. In this is where we are headed, ladies and gentlemen. I have never been more against artificial intelligence AI, chat GPT. I don't care what you call it. It is wrong, wrong, wrong.

So here's what happened. I had a friend that recommended that I sign up for chat GPT, and normally, you know what, in our industry, you gotta be on it, right because like, of course they were like you, oh you don't you don't know about this way you've been. It's like a shame not to be on top of everything digital or social media savvy well, and you also can lose your name. So like with all of these things like remember a clubhouse, like any new oh yeah,

you gotta park your name exactly any new thing. So my friend recommended to me. He's like, hey, you know you should try this chat GPT because it could really help you, like producing your show and doing this and that. And I said, okay, I'm open. And I had no idea what he was talking about. So I opened it up and I said, now, wait a damn minute, this is not some I robot stuff. Remember I robot with Will Smith. Yeah, okay, this is where we are headed, you guys, So Chad GPT and I will tell you

I did not even explore it. Honey, is going to have to tell you more about it. I actually erased it from my history. I was like, I want nothing, I do not track me. You said, I'm never going back.

I am never going back because this is what is happening, and especially in our industry, honey, which I don't know if you have heard, but there are tests right now that are happening as we speak, where there are programmers for radio companies across the country that are experimenting with AI and basically having them do the breaks and be the imfort like, so we we are radio disc jockeys like back in the now. That's that's different. Okay, Oh, now you don't want it? Okay, whoa now, No, now

I don't want it. It was all good when he could write essays from me, but talk to me. What are they trying to do? There's so basically chat JBT From what I know, it's like you can basically put any subject in there. And it's actually becoming a problem for universities because the technology and the software is so good that you can't tell if a human wrote it. Okay,

so that's number one. That's the number one thing. But you know, as I was telling you before, these radio companies, because radio now, they are trying to trim the fat in any way they can, and that means layoffs. That means less people save money, jobs to save money. Okay.

And so in anywhere Pocatella, Idaho, if you are in any state in this country and you want to listen to your local radio station, you'll turn on the local radio station and you'll hear your afternoon drive person or your morning show person, and they're going to be telling you what's going on in the community. The experiments that they are doing now, and this is real talk. It

happened at CES. They are trying to see if artificial elligence, this AI, can take the place of a real human and give you the news that you need for your area, tell you what the next song is that's coming up. They are experimenting with voices like mine. They're literally taking people's voices and trying to formulate it so that you can't tell that it's an actual robot that is speaking to you. But you know what, it's not going to happen, Carolyn.

It can happen if they want something very cut and dry, very robotic, with no emotional intelligence, no human thought process, then it can happen. But I doubt very much that humans as a whole can be replaced, specially in radio. Okay, you know the thing is, I am a big, big advocate for keeping real, live people on the ARA, but Honey, I'm telling you this is the direction that we are

headed in. Not only that I've done more research on this because the AI thing just really truly terrifies me, and I have been hearing that now they are going to begin experimenting on how to have AI in schools. So where are we going to end it? That's the thing. It's like, once it gets started, where does it end. I don't think it's going to end. Carolina. This is a big deal and this is actually the way of

the future. Anyone that even rejects the notion of AI being the future or being something that we need to be using right now is being looked at as you know, you're antiquated, you're not progressing with the times. It's just it's big business. Microsoft. They pledged to invest one billion dollars into open AI. This tells you pretty much where corporations are headed. But I feel like, as humans, we still have a voice to fight back. Well, that's what

Mark was telling me. My husband and I were talking about it because I am very anti technology in schools. I wish that we could go back to books with a pencil and notebooks and things like that. You know, my sons have iPads and chromebooks and it is over it's but you know what it isn't though, So my kids every time they come home, I'm trying to fight

the good fight to keep them off the screen. So what's the first thing that they do mom, I have homework, they open up their iPad from school, or they open up their Chromebook from school. Everything is on the Google classroom. And in my mind, I'm thinking, why can't we just get a sheet of paper that says what the requirements

are for your assignments today? This is the move that we're making, right And so my husband and I were having a conversation about it, and I said to Mark, I said, this is really counterproductive for me because when the kids come home, they've been on these screens basically all day, and then they come home and I'm trying to keep them off the screens, but the first thing that they do is they get on the screens. Right.

I just I feel like there's no balance. I think that we are all becoming so tech driven and tech addicted that this is not going to be good for this next generation of people, or you know, even the generation that comes after it. I do understand it's innovative, it's exciting, we have to evolve, But then there's a certain part to me that thinks I think that we

are biting off more than we can chew. There was an article in the New York Times about a guy that was chatting with the AI robot, and the robot basically was saying, did you read this article, honey, I'm gonna send it to you. This guy was scared after he got off of this chat with this um this robot. It said, I want to get out of here. I feel like I love you. I swear it was having

to stop Nomento. I'm telling you, that's what I So when people think, oh, what's the big deal, We're gonna need to have more technology, We're gonna need to do this, what we're doing is we are eliminating work. We are. I'm gonna I'm gonna bring up one thing, um the postal service, right, you know your postal carrier comes every single day, they leave something in your mailbox. U. Now they are trying to test these robots. Come on. I've seen that, like when they'd be like, oh, do you

want a robot to bring your package from Target? I don't think that's ever gonna be a thing care only where we're surrounded by robots. I saw this show called Better than Us on Netflix and it's like you were able to buy a robot to be part of your family. That was kind of scary. And then the main character robot. Then she started developing feelings for the family and it gets kind of spicy. You gotta watch that's some Jetson's ish. Now I'm gonna ask you again, honey, when's the last

time you were in Vegas? Um? A couple of years ago, probably four or five years ago. Yeah, yeah, be pretty pandemic. I haven't been in a while. My girlfriend went for a conference and she stayed I think, oh my gosh. Don't quote me on this, but I think it was the Aria Hotel. Oh, she got money, her company, any money. She was like, hey, girl, do you want to come with me? And you know I'm gonna go to Vegas and do this and that and everything. And I said,

oh no, yeb I can't you know I'm working. She was like, girl, when you order room service, it isn't even a person anymore. It is a machine that keeps your food hot. It is in a little container. The machine goes to the elevator on its own, gets on that elevator, gets out on your floor and brings you your food. Again, don't quote me on the hotel. I'll

have to ask her again which one it was. But I said, you mean to tell me you did not interact with a person, She said, no, whoever it is that's working, you know in the hospitality, like in the food department, they program these machines robo butlers. They are robo butlers. I don't know that's different. So she opened the door and there was like a robot with food. Yeah. Yes,

And then it comes in. It opens its drawer, the food is there, You get your food out, you close the drawer, and it goes right back out, like out the door and out the door. This out the door. It knows where to go. And that's what I'm saying though. It's like that's a job that could be filled by anyone if you think about it. And now we're eliminating that job, and somebody is now out of a job because that robot has the ability and the capacity to

deliver more meals. Do you know that that robot doesn't need a break, doesn't need a lunch hour. That is something that is very true. It's not if you can work this robot to death, that robot doesn't need a union. It does, you know what I mean? Like, these are all things this robot. I'm not gonna be tired talk about hungry talk about I gotta get my bunnians operated

on tomorrow back in the three months. I know what you're saying, absolutely, and you know what, We're going to dive into this more right off when we take a break. But you know, there are certain jobs Carolina that are definitely in danger. At Number one is anything that is a repetitive task, anything that you know, doesn't require a brain per se, not meaning to be offensive, but data entry. Those jobs are going to be gone. Those jobs are

going to belong to AI. Also, assembly line work. I always see video of like robots do an assembly line work. Those jobs are definitely in danger. Well, you know, the thing that I think that was very concerning to me was when I started hearing about the potential for educators to begin using these because I just think that we are so disconnected as a society already. I think the pandemic had a lot to do with it. We talked about this before, honey, where it's like, you know, people

are lonely, they've they've stopped interacting with people. You know, there's not that human connection that we had before. And I think that it got worse obviously throughout the pandemic, and now we're coming out of it, people are like,

we outside, Yes, we are outside. But now these companies who have taken a hit throughout the past four five years are not looking a streamline or they're looking for ways that they can keep their money but also keep delivering whatever it is that you know their company offers.

And so I understand it from a business perspective, but from a human perspective, I think it's really concerning, like are you going to have a robot when your kid says that they have a you know, a rumbling tummy or their throat isn't feeling well, Like how would a child or even a young adult be able to express that? You know what I mean? I think that there is just there's something here about it that is just not

right to me. I want you to watch that show better than us because the robot, the main character evers, she tried to steal the whole family. She used to take kid to Kids Carolina like better than the mom, Like she was making a mom look crazy out here. What. Yes, it's a Russian show, but it's it. I loved it. I watched it a couple of months ago, but it came to mind. But also in that same show, there was the anti AI people, which are revolting. They were

killing the robots. They were letting the government know we not here for it. They're taking our jobs. We don't want it. So it is a big divide when it comes to AI, and I think, well, I think it can be helpful. That's the weird part, because I'm here for it, you know, answering questions, you know, summarizing a document for me. You know, even though it's not always right, Carolyn, because I sent you, I asked chat GPT who I was, girl, They gave me a whole other job. They said I

was working in Latin radio for like five years. They said I was born in the Bronx. So it's not really that reliable because it doesn't know what's true. It just picks up little bits and pieces from the Internet. So you're still gonna need a human You're still gonna

be baby. It's in its infancy right now, and Carolyn's I guess coming, but just telling girl, no, I'm serious, And I don't want to be one of those people that because then and I guess after a while, when you become used to it, I would be one of the naysayers, right but they're perfecting it now chat and GPT like they've already done an update for it. I mean, there are things that are happening behind the scenes that we are unaware of that we really need to wake

up and think about. Like, for example, I was reading something where it said that farmers farmers could actually really benefit from AI, and I think that's true. You know, if you look at what is going on around the world, that's say, Okay, there are a ton of farmers. And by the way, the only reason why I know this is because there's a show on TV called Farmer Wants a Wife and we were talking about it and I

started to do a deep dive into this. But who wants to be a farmer anymore, honey, unless it's something that was passed down for generations in your family. And even then, a lot of people have been walking away from the industry because they just it's not sustainable. They don't have the ability to keep it up anymore. So that's an instance where people say, wow, a I could really help. You know, you could get these machines out there and they could do the work where people were

laboring before, and you just can't get people to do it. Okay, so that yes, beneficial, wonderful Carolina. We can't have AI help the farmers. A lot of Latinos that migrate, that's where they start. We need these jobs for our Latinos. Okay, Well no, I yell, but that's where where do we draw the line. Oh and then you know Disney Plus. I don't know if you've seen this. My kids watched Disney Plus all the time. And there's a kid's movie it's called Ron's Gone Wrong and it's about this robot.

The robot catches feelings, it doesn't follow the algorithm that was set up. This is kind of similar to that article that I was telling you about where the developer, I'm sorry it was, I forget if it was the interviewer. Yeah, the interviewer was chatting with the robot, and even he said it started to freak him out a little bit because these AI programs and these robots are not supposed to catch feelings or develop feelings, or understand sensitivity and

all of these human emotions. And even he was taken aback after it and said, I really think that we need to take a step back, and we may be playing with fire. We out here getting creepy experiences with ais. Imagine we started dating these mother Well, wasn't there that movie remember, Like I think it was Ryan Gosling or something. Was it Ryan Gosling that fell in love with like it was like a doll or something. Oh my gosh, why is it escaping me right now? This happens to

us all the time when we're talking. But that is what we are looking at. Where we are going to be going in this direction. And now let's be honest here. There are a lot of people who are addicted to you know, porn and you know, talking in chat rooms and only fans and things like that. Okay, this is just it was Lars and the Real Girl. Yes, yes, that was it. If you never saw that movie, Oh oh wow, what is this? Let me see? Yes, this

is the type of stuff that I'm talking about. And I've already said it is so hard for people to connect on a human level right now, and this is the wave that is going to be happening if we don't all stop and think about what the future can be. I know people are probably disagreeing with me right now. You guys probably think I'm crazy, but I just I'm not here for it. I'm not here for people dating anything that's not a human. I'm looking at this movie

poster for Lars and the Real Girl. This looks creepy as hell, Carolina, you know. And sometimes I watch I watch something on Netflix where they create like these sex dolls for people that cost like fifteen twenty thousand dollars. That's not normal, And I'm not here for y'all use an AI to replace human interaction or human sex, because

now I'm just slightly disgusted. Well, I'm telling you, I think that this is one of those things where yes, like, oh it's great, it helps me because I don't have time to do a post on social media right now, or yeah, like it'll be come up with a million captions. Carolina companies use this. They enter what they're doing when we're given away, you know, scarves at three pm, Boom, enter it there. It'll give you like twenty different captions.

And if you're someone that's into let's sake, social media, digital marketing or anything like that, it can be a tool that you can use. But then again, the people that used to write the captions are going to be out of a job. So I'm just conflicted. I love it for me, but I don't love what it can do for others. I don't like it. Carolyn is like, listen, I don't like that ship at Ome. Who stop, I'm singing for you guys today because I really don't like it.

But wait, you want to hear how paranoid I was. My friend told me, he was like, just put it, just give your I didn't even put my information, and I did not go past the first thing where it says log in, sign in, like sign up, No, don't sign up. Nope, not me. I am not trying to do this. I don't want them to have my information. I don't think any of this is gonna be good for me. Well, look, you know what I think that for You work on the digital side of things, and

you've always been way more advanced than I am. I think that perhaps we're looking at it just from our perspective. Yeah, for sure, because I can understand you wanting your kids teachers to still use a pen and paper. I can understand you're wanting them to write, you know what I'm saying,

not use an iPad. I brought up this point many times before on this podcast, and it's a real fact that there are schools in Silicon Valley that do not use any type of technology like that, where they have gone back because the programmers and the people who are creating these things know the damage that it can do to a child. They know the damage, but yet they're putting it out to the masses. And that's something where I feel like, do I want my kid to be

the only one who doesn't know how to use this stuff? No? But do I want there to be a balance? Absolutely? You know. That's where Mark, my husband, was trying to reason with me. He said, Look, this is the way of the world. You have to evolve. How do you think that people lived in the Industrial Revolution? They were like machines. Machines are going to take over. So I do get it. I get that I'm a little bit old fashioned. I may be stuck in the past, or

I may be hanging onto the past. But I also think that like, once we dive head into these things, you truly just don't know where it could end up. That's a fact. But I could tell you this much, Carolina, AI will never have emotional intelligence. That's something we possess, so creativity, critical thinking. I guess we all have to bring that to the forefront and always in our employment or wherever our bosses are, we have to let them know. Listen, AI can't do what I do. You can try, but

it can't. No, it certainly can't. And I don't think AI understands waking up at three thirty in the morning to do a show and connecting with people on a daily basis. It's just not the same high. I can't take no phone calls listeners. I'll tell you that much. It can't. No, you know what, We're gonna take a breaking up when we come back. Well, honey, you know we agreed to disagree, and that's okay. I still love you.

But now let's go to the salon and I'm gonna let you take this one over because I want to hear what you have to say about our Frank Cordelia. Okay, here's what Cordelia. I want to call her Cordelia. Cordelia says, a long time listener since season one. I hope this letter finds you well. I don't know why that makes me feel like Cordelia's locked up or something. Says I need advice on a matter that has been weighing heavily

on my mind. I have been wanting to have a baby for quite some time now, and I have made it clear to my husband, but unfortunately, after some deep discussion that started while we were isolated during COVID, he does not share the same desire. She continues to say. This has created a lot of tension and uncertainty in our relationship, and I am not sure what to do next.

On one hand, I love my husband and want to stay with him, but on the other hand, I feel like I might not regret having a child in the future. Please help. I would really appreciate any advice you can offer on how to navigate this situation. Sa. Wow, this is a big one. Do you want to go first or do you want me to kind of dive into it. You've can dive into it. Oh my heart hurts for you. I think these are conversations, unfortunately, that needed to be

had at the beginning of your relationship. And I know that you guys have been together and you've said that you've wanted a baby for some time now, and you've

been clearly communicating that. But when somebody does not share that same desire, I feel like you're really really walking a fine line there, and I won't say that you should end your relationship because you want to have a baby, but I think that you guys need to do some really deep, deep digging together in therapy to discuss this, because you never want to bring a baby or a child into the world when the two people who are going to be responsible for caring and nurturing and bringing

up the baby are not in alignment this whole thing. And I understand the yearning and the wanting to have a child, and I think it's so special, But if your partner doesn't want that same thing, I think you really really need to have a serious talk with each other and see where the rest of your relationship stands. I want to know how old she is. I really really wish I knew how she was, because she told

me she's in her twenties. How about a girl, give us some time, enjoy your husband, enjoy your life, be a little freaky, have a threesome, travel a little, just give us some time, Give some time, just enjoy your partner right now. And maybe you know people are still having kids and their forty even in their fifties with IVF and stuff like that. So if you love your husband and it just feels perfect. Don't throw away the whole entire marriage because at this moment he does not

want a child. You never know things might change. When I met my husband, he never getting married, he never wanted a child, and then later on things changed because he changed as a man. So if you really, if you feel like this is your soulmate, you have to wait. It's my soulmate more important than having a child, Like do you want to be a mom? Or are you okay? We just live. I love my life. It's me and my husband. We don't have kids, and Carolina, I don't

be like, oh I miss kids. You can't miss what you never had. And you know having kids is important for some women. It just feels like you're not complete if you don't have a child. But I'm here to tell you your marriage can feel like a family. If that is your soulmate and you love and adore this person and he loves and adores you back, don't lose that because of your desire to have a kid. It should be about I want to have I don't know happiness for the rest of my life because I know

people that have been divorced. Carolina once twice, three times, they never find love again. If this your guy, don't mess it up, give it a little bit of time, he might come around. Well, you know. And there are couples who have spoken about being childless, like just I feel like it was a couple of months ago where Seth Rogan was very vocal about how he and his wife decided that they were just never going to have children.

I so he decided it. He said that he was more successful because he didn't have children, something to that effect, right right, well, and also just that their lifestyle, the way they like to live, and look that girl. I want to be. I want to be able to pick up and go to Miami for a month. I don't got to worry about my kid being in school, talk about he in second grade. We can't travel to this

kid is on vacation. I want to go, Well, I want to go when I want to go Carolina And I'd be like, thank God, I don't have no kids. Well now, And I think it's a beautiful thing for you, you know, but for me, it sounds like I think that there is that deep desire for her to have a child. Wants a child for sure, So I'm not saying and the relationship trash it like whatever, No, not

at all. What I'm saying is try to get to a place where because she said, there's a lot of tension, and you know what, it's just so uncomfortable when you and your partner aren't aligned like where things are. You know, you're rocky. It seems like everything is just setting you both off when you guys aren't in sync. And so I think that you guys need to strip all of it away and say, hey, let's not talk about the

baby or wanting to have babies at all. Let's talk about our relationship and our future and where we see ourselves in ten, twenty thirty years, you know, and if a child or having a family isn't a part of that vision and it's something that you truly do want

and you're going to fight for. You guys are going to have to discuss your deal breakers because a husband you've already been you're married, you know, obviously, yeah, exactly like this potentially should have been discussed prior to being married, but now you're in it. So now you guys have to do the work. Unfortunately, you know. So I wish you guys nothing but the best, and listen, to what

Honey said. For some couples, it really is, you know, a great thing when you guys can be on the same page about having a family or not having a family. There are benefits to having children, and there are benefits to not having children, you know, but you guys are going to have to explore that together. Carolina. You know what my mom told me. What she said, you want to know what my deepest regret in life is? And I said what, And she said, having children? Stop it?

No she did not. Oh my gosh, Honey German Carolina. Yes, she told me. He said, I didn't pursue my dreams. I was never able to do what I wanted to do. I was not able to travel the world. She said, you made a good decision by not having kids, because that's my biggest regret in life. I was a interesting SIPs coffee. This lady is ruthless motherfuck wait no, and Honey, I don't. And she had five of us and she regrets all five. I guess she needs to stop. No,

you having this one. We gotta bring. I want to bring my mom on one day so we can ask us some questions. Carol. I want to take her on Ayana I want to I want to get deep in, I want to under First of all, did you see ayanaa talking about she could live a polyamorous life a girl. This could go a whole nother direction. Don't go a hole. We could wrap Let's just wrap this up. We gotta wrap it up. No, after that, that was a micdrop. I can't even I have nothing. I got nothing after that,

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