This weeks sponsor is BetterHelp. Listeners of the show receive 10% off their first month of online therapy by visiting betterhelp.com/mlm. John was never in an MLM, but both of his parents were, as he juggled living between their homes. From an MLM hobbyist mother, who ran the gamut from Avon to Tastefully Simple, to John's deeply entrenched Herbalife peddling father, MLM was all around him growing up. I knew getting the perspective of the victims we don't think about, and the side effects of d...
Oct 03, 2021•1 hr 30 min•Ep. 62
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* We continue Maelen's story after the disaster of Vision 2017 broke the straw, and her dealing with leaving LuLaRoe and the 100% Buy Back cancelation nightmare. We discuss the culture in Lu...
Sep 30, 2021•53 min•Ep. 61
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* Maelen reached out to me after watching LuLaRich, and knew she needed to get some things off her chest about her time in LuLaRoe and the processing of those emotions. She shares her journe...
Sep 29, 2021•56 min•Ep. 60
Thank you to this weeks sponsor, Best Fiends!Download Best Fiends on the Apple App Store, or Google Play today! *In this episode of Life After MLM, we talk about the MLM Pure Romance, which includes adult themes and situations. This episode is recommended for 18+ and if you are sensitive to this subject matter, please use your own discretion.* "Michelle" was ride or die with Pure Romance for almost 19 years, after a messy divorce left her a single mom with a hungry teenage son. Although admitted...
Sep 26, 2021•1 hr 27 min•Ep. 59
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* This episode is a new idea I had, and if we like it, I'd love to continue with other MLMs and topics! I love the audience participation part! The other day I was sent a video of DeAnne say...
Sep 23, 2021•47 min•Ep. 58
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* We finish up Part 2 as Becca and I discuss some of the more burning questions in LuLaRich, like that odd marriage and why Mark and DeAnne think it's so funny. Plus some of the deepest secr...
Sep 22, 2021•59 min•Ep. 57
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* In the world of LuLaRoe tea, Becca dominates the space, and while she was never a rep, LuLaRoe still found it's way in front of her curious eyes. From the credit card breaches and tax issu...
Sep 21, 2021•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 56
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* As we finish up our list of LuLaGrievances, "Melissa" and I finally make it to the NDSS scandal, explaining what happened with the top selling consultants who mocked special needs. Listeni...
Sep 20, 2021•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 55
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* I met "Melissa" before our time in LuLaRoe, when we were both young moms at a local Chick-Fil-A storytime group. We instantly hit it off, and kept in touch as her husband's military career...
Sep 20, 2021•1 hr 21 min•Ep. 54
*We had a few technical difficulties with the mic and some fuzzy reverb in a few spots. We did clear it up as much as we could when recording, and again as I edited it for the podcast. Just a heads up!* From the moment I recorded episodes 17 & 18, Russ has been telling me to watch The Slave Circle and reach out to the filmmaker, Alex Semchuck. He thought we would get along and have a lot to talk about, and boy was he right. Alex not only made the film about Smart Circle, he also worked for t...
Sep 19, 2021•1 hr 24 min•Ep. 53
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* This episode mentions "Alexa" several times, just in case you're listening near one. Also, Paul had a stroke in November 2020, please be mindful that he is still recovering. I get right to...
Sep 17, 2021•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 52
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* Paul had a stroke in November 2020, please be mindful that he is still recovering. Paul and Tiffany first heard of LuLaRoe shortly after a tragic loss in their family. After receiving Vale...
Sep 17, 2021•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 51
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* Sheri joined LuLaRoe at the time it was just starting take off. She's been holding in her story for the last 3 years, and recently found the strength to spill it all on the show. Sheri tak...
Sep 16, 2021•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 50
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* This interview takes place while LaShae was at the salon, and some background noise was unavoidable. Also, Shae's mic has some sound issues for a bit, but it does even out and fix itself. ...
Sep 15, 2021•1 hr 15 min•Ep. 49
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* Katie and I continue our walk down LuLaRoe Memory Lane, discussing Mark and DeAnne's shady intentions, and our feelings on celebrities who use their influence to scam their fans. In her po...
Sep 14, 2021•50 min•Ep. 48
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* Katie S. joined LuLaRoe in the Spring of 2017, and spent over 3 months waiting in the onboarding queue. Though Katie is not featured in LuLaRich, her story would have fit perfectly in the ...
Sep 14, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 47
*The stories shared in LuLaBitch are our own personal experiences, opinions and allegations of our time in the cult LuLaRoe. Some accounts may be triggering. Please listen at your own discretion. This is meant as a companion series to the Amazon Docuseries, LuLaRich, and is in no way affiliated with the film.* For our first episode of LuLaBitch, we welcome Derryl Trujillo, the charming and stalwart Home Office employee from LuLaRich on Amazon Prime. I first met Derryl back in 2017, right after w...
Sep 13, 2021•1 hr 29 min•Ep. 46
"Tallulah" dodged a bullet when she saw the red flags at a World Financial Group recruitment event and decided to turn down "the opportunity". After making that decision, she was harassed and bullied by her recruiter with vicious texts and voice messages. We also discuss different red flags to look for when trying to figure out if the opportunity being offered is a scam or not, the differences between MLM and "Corporate America" and what to expect from a legitimate job offer. Show Notes World Fi...
Sep 05, 2021•1 hr 9 min•Ep. 45
CONTENT WARNING - The results of this event have claimed the lives of at least 10 people at the time of publication. We talk about the event, Covid, and the aftermath, including hospitalization and death. Please listen at your own discretion. A special bonus episode of Life After MLM! Meet Tracey Reid, a former top 1% Bling Boss Paparazzi Mega Seller turned Anti MLM crusader! I was first introduced to her when I was tagged in her Facebook Live video about her opinions on last month's Paparazzi C...
Sep 01, 2021•1 hr 20 min•Ep. 44
In this episode, we meet "Julie Smith" and she takes us through her journey into "becoming a Hun", while in the top 5% of two different MLMs. From her viewpoint, she got to experience the behavior MLM's don't tell you about; the true costs, what it really takes and what you've got to be willing to let go. As "Julie" tells her story, she recounts how she came to understand that while she was successful in MLM, it was at the expense of the "failures", and she knew she couldn't keep quiet any longe...
Aug 29, 2021•1 hr 17 min•Ep. 43
Eddie was a massage therapist in Tucson, Arizona looking for a more stable and rewarding career when an insurance agent walked though the spa's doors offering options. Though his time in insurance, he found himself working for World Financial Group, an insurance service MLM that seemed more interested in recruiting than selling appropriate policies. Eddie offers some practical advice, we share our love of Jewish bakeries and food, and where he's headed next. Show Notes *Follow my TikTok BACKUP A...
Aug 01, 2021•1 hr 44 min•Ep. 42
Hey! Thanks so much for being so patient while I took July off for some mental health time. New episodes with return Sunday, August 1st! We've got stories coming up from World Financial Group, Herbalife, Younique, and many more! Plus, some personal updates, social media updates, sharing some milestones and what else I have in store for new episodes! See you next week! Show Notes! Anti MLM Bookclub - Ponzinomics by Robert L. FitzPatrick - https://amzn.to/3q16oJb We hit 100K! - https://www.tiktok....
Jul 26, 2021•21 min
In the conclusion of Abby's episode, we finish out chat on MLMs & Christianity and dive into our personal thoughts and fact based opinions on Multi Level Marketing, and why what seems like simple and kind things to do, end up being nefarious traps that keep people stuck in the scam longer and cause them to lose more money over time. Plus, a direct call to action to church leaders to keep spaces safe from predatory scams, and a call to action to those with friends in MLM as well. Show Notes I...
Jun 28, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 41
Abby Miller thought she was just "helping out a friend" at church by buying some oils, when she got an email welcoming her to the team as Young Living's newest distributor. After that experience she wanted to understand what had happened to her and why, and she went down the MLM rabbit hole. Being a Christian, Abby began to see that the MLM practices she was experiencing in her community were contradicting the biblical values she had been taught. After finding the podcast and listening to Ryan's...
Jun 27, 2021•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 40
Before Julie Jo was a major force in the AntiMLM TikTok community, she was an Arbonne Hun. She climbed the ranks within her MLM, and qualified for that coveted White Mercedes. Julie breaks down what it takes to get there and how much that "FREE CAR" really costs. We also chat about TikTok, the AntiMLM community, cult tactics, and what we do about all those "haters" we get. *If you're catching us in real time, head over to TikTok for a dual live chat about the episode!* Show Notes Julie's TikTok!...
Jun 20, 2021•51 min•Ep. 39
When Laura found herself pregnant with her 4th baby, in the middle of the Covid pandemic, she worried that her Mary Kay business may have been hurting more than it was helping. She took a long look at the numbers with her husband, and realized that she "never saw a true profit" from her 5 years in the "business". After a stress induced rash and severely swollen feet, Laura had "the talk" and decided to make a life change, another unexpected silver lining of the pandemic. Show Notes About the 99%...
Jun 16, 2021•1 hr 10 min•Ep. 38
Laura Caton was a mother of young children just looking for something of her own when she learned about a local community theater company in her area. She was targeted multiple times in her small town by the local Mary Kay Director, before eventually "starting her own business" with the MLM. Because she was a homeschooling mom, with little outlet outside of home, she began selling and sharing the opportunity within the theater company, convinced they needed the quality products that "only Mary K...
Jun 14, 2021•1 hr 12 min•Ep. 37
In the conclusion of Rebecca's story, we get a bit deeper into the cult aspects and what she started to see and experience. While her new life as a mom was keeping her busy, and her husband's new career kept him away from the weekly team meetings, things with Amway began to unravel. Rebecca and I discuss different elements of the BITE Model that she personally knew were happening, what it's like to buy your rank, and how "Diamonds" are REALLY made. Show Notes Once Upon a Biz Instagram - https://...
Jun 08, 2021•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 36
Rebecca, the AntiMLM force behind the IG account "Once Upon a Biz", spent 10 years of her life in the cult of Amway. While under their spell, she found herself slowly changing and shifting not only her attitude and focus, but her religious and political views as well. She met her husband while in what she describes as her "hunbot" phase, and shares what it's like navigating a marriage formed in the cult, once you've left. I've heard of some culty MLM behavior, but this one takes the cake. Show N...
Jun 06, 2021•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 35
*Content Warning* This story contains the exploitation of minors as young as 16, in a "Student Financial Assistance" scam. Those who are sensitive to stories like this, please use your best judgement before proceeding. Chelsea Flores was a young woman living in the Philippines, when she heard about a financial assistance scam targeting young students in her area. The opportunity, Zafire Natural Beauty and Wellness, an MLM headed by a narcissistic cult-like leader, looked too good to be true. Alt...
May 26, 2021•51 min•Ep. 34
