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Life After MLM

Roberta Blevinsrobertablevins.com
True stories and conversations with survivors, advocates and experts on the insidiousness of cults, frauds, scams and pyramid schemes. Through compassionate and educational informal chats, we work to end the stigma of "failure", in an machine systematically designed for you to fail. Hosted by Roberta Blevins, star of LuLaRich. Life After MLM is a part of True Native Media. Visit https://truenativemedia.com for more.

Episodes

Episode 301 : MLM Mini Dive : Belle Vitale

Jen is back and this time we're talking all about the Bodi adjacent program by Autumn Calabrese, Belle Vitale! If you've been stuck in the toxic diet culture cycle, or maybe you're in perimenopause, and you're being bombarded with hormone health gimmicks, this episode may help you navigate those waters. Show Notes Connect with Jen! : ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠Website⁠ Work with Jen! : ⁠FREE 30 Minute Discovery Call⁠ ⁠AnchorFit Community⁠ (Free 3 Day Trial - Use Promo Code: ANTIMLM50 for 50% off...

Jun 15, 20251 hr 16 minSeason 5Ep. 301

Episode 300 : The 300th Episode!

It's our 300th episode! Mr. F is here to hang out and help me with commentary on our latest Instagram Polls, plus give us his "not a lawyer" legal expertise regarding the Modere Bankruptcy case! Thank you so much for being here and supporting the show! Show Notes Modere Hiding it's Insolvency 11 U.S. Code § 507 - Priorities Modere Bankruptcy Filing Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The BITE Model⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LAMLM Book Club⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Dupes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ How can you help? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠MLM Change⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Report Fraud⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ...

Jun 08, 202557 minSeason 5Ep. 300

Episode 299 : Maile

On April 11th, the MLM Modere, who had been in business for over 23 years, shocked it's reps and shut it doors unexpectedly. That same day, I got a text from Maile, letting me know that since Modere was gone, she was finally free to tell her story and share the secrets she knew about the company. In this juicy tell all we talk about some of the more outrageous special perks top reps received and speculate about why they closed and who had advance knowledge of it. Show Notes Modere Shuts Down Sha...

Jun 01, 20251 hr 22 minSeason 5Ep. 299

Episode 298 : Kelli Part 2

Part 2 of our episode with Kelli gets into the nitty gritty of what's been happening at Arieyl. As one of the only people at corporate who never signed an NDA, Kelli has a lot to say about what went on when she was there, and answers some of the rumors that have been shared with me anonymously. Plus, an update to what's been found in several products that shouldn't be there. Show Notes Softer StreetsTHC traces found in another health supplement Atomik Vodka The Hemp Authority Out of MLM⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Th...

May 25, 20251 hr 25 minSeason 5Ep. 298

Episode 297 : Kelli Part 1

*Content Warning! This episode deals with traumatic themes of trafficking, sexual allegations and spiritual abuse. Please use caution when listening.* In Part 1 of our 2 part story, we meet Kelli and hear her testimony of her time in a corporate position at the MLM Arieyl. As a founding member, Kelli saw and experienced more than her fair share of questionable behavior, and she wanted to come clean and share her truth. Show Notes NCMEC POTS New Top Earners Earnings And Company Revenue Verificati...

May 18, 20251 hr 41 minSeason 5Ep. 297

Episode 296 : Little Bosses Everywhere

Three years ago Bridget Read reached out to me to talk about my experiences in AntiMLM Advocacy for a book she was writing at the time. Today Bridget is here to talk about that very book, Little Bosses Everywhere, which comes out May 6th! In our chat we discuss the early days of the Health and Wellness industry, MLMs, and Amway's connections to American government. Show Notes Connect with Bridget! : Instagram Grab your copy of Little Bosses Everywhere now! 2025 MLM Conference Stanford historian ...

May 04, 20251 hr 21 minSeason 5Ep. 296

Episode 295 : MLM Mini Dive : Youngevity

We've got another MLM Mini Dive with Julie today! This time it's Youngevity, the MLM with my favorite stupid name! If you've been following the Epicure drama you may have heard rumors of it being sold to Youngevity, and Julie is here to tell us what she knows about it. We also talk about the beginnings of the company, and how deeply connected to other MLMs it is. If you like the Min Dive episodes, you're gonna love this one! Show Notes Connect with Julie : Instagram | YouTube | TikTok Biggest Fy...

Apr 27, 20251 hr 32 minSeason 5Ep. 295

Episode 294 : Jen McIntyre

Whew! We've got a doozy with today's episode! We're joined by Jen McIntyre, a former rep for Epicure who's got an inside look into the failed MLM. As one of the first American consultants, Jen saw A LOT of things that rubbed her the wrong way, and she couldn't wait to share the second the went under. AND! Since recording this episode in February, Epicure is under new ownership in the shadiest of ways, and you're not going to want to miss the bonus audio at the end of the show! Show Notes Connect...

Apr 20, 20251 hr 26 minSeason 5Ep. 294

Episode 293 : Nandi Returns

In today's episode, Mr. F joins us to chat about the future of health and wellness trends and the closing of the MLM Modere. Plus, Nandi returns to share her experiences using Nutrilite products during her time in Amway, and some of the more ridiculous products in their lineup. Show Notes Nutrilite Wiki NSF International Amway Farms Blue Light Vitamins for Eyes (Amazon) Nutrilite Products Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you help? MLM Change Report Fraud Truth in Adver...

Apr 13, 202557 minSeason 5Ep. 293

Episode 292 : Cassandra

Cassandra was working in a gym when she tried Zyia leggings for the first time. With a built in customer base and a background in sales, she decided to jump into the company and see what she could make of it. Like most of us who join pyramid schemes, she didn't gain the financial freedom she was promised, but that didn't stop her from bouncing from MLM to MLM until she finally opened her eyes. Show Notes Connect with Cassandra : Instagram Was I In A Cult : Mary Kay Cosmetics: “Faith First, Famil...

Apr 06, 20251 hr 11 minSeason 5Ep. 292

Episode 291 : Katie

*Content Warning : This episode deals with eating disorders and disordered eating. Please use discretion when listening.* After many successful years on a popular weight loss program, corporate changes lead Katie to no longer seeing the results she wanted. As a marathon runner, Katie always been physically active, until a spinal surgery left her unable to exercise at all. After gaining more weight that she would have liked, she found herself battling with body dysmorphia again, and that's when O...

Mar 30, 202559 minSeason 5Ep. 291

Episode 290 : Tasha

Have you ever heard that some MLMs are willable businesses, that you can pass down to your children so they can inherit your income? Have you ever wondered what that meant and if there was any legitimacy to those claims, or if it was just another MLM lie? Today we have Tasha, an attorney who focuses on estate planning and estate administration, including trust administration and probate, to answer all our questions! Show Notes r/AntiMLM Is Arbonne a "Willable" business? Out of MLM The BITE Model...

Mar 23, 20251 hr 20 minSeason 5Ep. 290

Episode 289 : Jen Borruso

*Content Warning: This episode deals with Toxic Diet Culture and mentions disordered eating and orthorexia. Please use caution when listening.* When I first put out a call to action for this season's main theme of Health and Wellness, SO MANY of you reached out and told me that I needed to chat with Jen Borruso. Not only is Jen now a Personal Trainer & Nutrition Coach, but she used to be a BeachBody Hun, so she knows a thing or two about how MLMs manipulate our minds with toxic diet culture....

Mar 09, 202558 minSeason 5Ep. 289

Episode 288 : MLM Mini Dive : FermaGlo

Today Platinum Chelsea joins us to talk about the newest MLM in pre-pre-launch, FermaGlo. It's a fun MLM Mini Dive episode loaded with nonsense, zoom calls, sound effects, deep speculation, professional advice and an AI song singing FermaGlo's praises. Jump in, grab yourself a snack and a drink and be prepared to learn everything we know about the fermented plant beauty product MLM FermaGlo so far. Show Notes Connect with Chelsea : Instagram | YouTube Fyre Fest 2 r/AntiMLM - Paparazzi & WA C...

Mar 02, 20251 hr 19 minSeason 5Ep. 288

Episode 287 : Mariah

Mariah spent almost her entire 20's in Amway, in a pyramid filled with family members. Throughout their time in LTD, Mariah and her husband faced a multitude of health and wellness struggles including miscarriage, an emergency bowel restructuring, and a scary mystery illness and diagnosis. The most common denominator? Amway. Show Notes Adverse reaction to a dietary supplement in an elderly patient (PubMed) Health hazards caused by Amway Nutrilite (Reddit) Amway making false, misleading health cl...

Feb 23, 20251 hr 19 minSeason 5Ep. 287

Episode 286 : Samantha

Samantha started using Young Living Essential Oils because she believed they would be a safer alternative to mainstream household cleaners and products. She quickly found herself with a shelf full of EO vials and deeply immersed in the #oilylife, throwing away all the "negative" products and replacing them with Young Living dupes. As she built a team, she began to understand the gamification of MLM; commodifying friendships and turning her downline into a bonus check, that she started to realize...

Feb 16, 20251 hr 8 minSeason 5Ep. 286

Episode 285 : MLM Mini Dive : Make Wellness

In our first ever podcast based MLM Mini Dive, Julie Anderson is here to help us understand the new MLM Make Wellness and some of it's shadier history. If you've been haggled about "BioActive Precision Peptides" this is the episode for you, and while you're listening, go ahead and send it to 3 friends who need to hear it too. This episode also features audio from actual public videos posted by Make Wellness affiliates, plus an update on the "Scentsy Trip to Greece"! Show Notes Julie's Make Welln...

Feb 09, 20251 hr 5 minSeason 5Ep. 285

Episode 284 : Matt & Tracey

Who doesn't love a good and juicy MLM story about the dangers of dating in your downline? Now add Amway to the mix, and we've got a hilariously honest and vulnerable origin story about Matt and his wife Tracey, and all the sick mind games the IBOs in LTD played with them along the way. It's been over 16 years since they've relived some of these stories, so thanks for taking us on this journey and being so real. Show Notes r/AntiMLM : Color Street How to Stop Worrying and Start Living Out of MLM ...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 32 minSeason 5Ep. 284

Episode 283 : Tracie Bezerra

Because we're focusing a bit more on the Health and Wellness MLMs this year, we've got an educational episode for you today. Folks on the neurodivergent spectrum tend to get targeted often by MLMs offering anecdotal promises of cures and quick fixes, so it felt important to provide empathy and context. When we're deep in MLM, we often don't take a second to really understand someone's journey and why targeting them could be predatory. Meet Tracie, the amazing mom to Rachel, a 30 year old woman w...

Jan 26, 20251 hr 31 minSeason 5Ep. 283

Episode 282 : Lindsay

Have you ever experienced FOMO? It's the "Fear of Missing Out" and it often plays a large part in the MLM experiences. Today's guest Lindsay is no exception to MLM FOMO and wanted to share her story of her time in Senegence. From using the large Facebook group she managed as a sales pool, to realizing that everything she experienced was dripping with manipulation, Lindsay has a lot of regrets and luckily, even more insight. Show Notes Connect with Lindsay : Facebook | Lindsay Helps LLC r/antimlm...

Jan 19, 20251 hr 35 minSeason 5Ep. 282

Episode 281 : Joline Atkins

In the fall of 2024, the MLM world was rocked when Beachbody/BODi announced they were dropping the MLM aspect and going affiliate. Our guest, Joline Atkins was there to witness every rise and fall in her 14 year stint with the company. From nearly ruining her family vacation hitting 5 Star Diamond, to simply asking too many questions, Joline ethically struggled and made decisions she wasn't proud of. So without further ado, we present The Joline Atkins Apology Tour! Show Notes Connect with Jolin...

Jan 12, 20251 hr 28 minSeason 5Ep. 281

Episode 280 : Remembering Mike Rinder

On January 5th, 2025, we lost our friend Mike Rinder to his battle with esophageal cancer. Mike was a friend of the pod, fierce fighter again coercive control and abuse, and a advocate for all cult survivors. The legacy he built will live on and continue to help and inspire survivors to come. We will miss you Mike! COBSCOHB From the Vault! December 2022: *Content Warning : We do talk a bit about the Danny Masterson SA case, as well as other abuses of Scientology. Please use discretion when liste...

Jan 08, 20251 hr 23 minSeason 5Ep. 280

Episode 279 : The Best of 2024

Happy 2025! Enjoy this collection of the Best of 2024, hand picked by yours truly and you, the listeners! Enjoy! Show Notes Full episodes of all our 2024 clips below! Shanny Payton Sandy Rusk Sarah Rathbun Nick Thompson Dr. Amy Saltzman, MD Don Martin Apostate Alex Chris Shelton Marc & Claire Headley Hannah Alonzo Kurtis Waldron Ginger & Michael Robyn Hyer Cristie Stogner Stefan & Jenna Dani Rodriguez Dianne Darren Mudd Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you ...

Jan 05, 20251 hrSeason 5Ep. 279

Episode 278 : 2024 Bloopers

Happy Holidays from the Triple Diamond Team at Life After MLM! Here is a fun collections of outtakes and bloopers that happened in 2024 behind the scenes of the podcast. From tangents with guests, to uncontrollable interruptions, enjoy the chaos that happens behind your favorite episodes and thank you for making 2024 our best year yet! Show Notes Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you help? MLM Change Report Fraud Truth in Advertising Report to your state Attorney Genera...

Dec 29, 202429 minSeason 4Ep. 278

Episode 277 : Hope Kraal

Merry Christmas Huns! We've got a bit of Holiday Magic brewing with a special Yuletide episode, filled with all the themes we've come to love over here at Life After MLM; Cultiness, Evangelical Christianity, and Amway. Meet Hope Kraal, who as a former WWDB IBO has a lot to say about World Wide Dream Builders and Amway, including how they use faith manipulation, deceit, the patriarchy to get ahead. Show Notes Connect with Hope : Instagram Hamburger University Love and Respect Sheila Wray Gregoire...

Dec 22, 20241 hr 27 minSeason 4Ep. 277

Episode 276 : DeAnne McMahan

DeAnne was just looking for a job online when she ran across a posting for what seemed like a legit marketing and sales position. What she actually found was an office for Smart Circle, an MLM where she would be selling discount coupons, door-to-door. In our chat we talk how Smart Circle is slightly different from traditional MLMs, what red flags to look out for when job hunting and how even when you think you can work the system, you can't out scam a scammer. Show Notes Out of MLM The BITE Mode...

Dec 15, 20241 hr 34 minSeason 4Ep. 276

Episode 275 : Dr. Mara Einstein

Dr. Mara Einstein is an internationally recognized expert on deceptive marketing tactics who I had the pleasure of meeting at the MLM Conference. After working for a decade in corporate marketing for some of the biggest names in the business (MTV, NBC, Miller Beer), she left for academia, motivated by a desire to pull back the curtain on consumerism’s dark side with the goal to persuade companies to do better and give people tools to increase their power in the marketplace. She is the author of ...

Dec 08, 20241 hr 42 minSeason 4Ep. 275

A Quick Update

We'll be taking a little time off to grieve the loss of Aunt Jackie and will be back to new episodes soon. Thank you for understanding. Show Notes Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book Club MLM Dupes How can you help? MLM Change Report Fraud Truth in Advertising Report to your state Attorney General's office! Not in the U.S.? No Problem! Support the Podcast! Website | Patreon | Buy Me a Taco | TikTok | Instagram | Facebook | YouTube | Discord | Merch! Life After MLM is produced by Roberta Blevins...

Nov 30, 202412 min

Episode 274 : Nandi

We are wrapping up our month of Amway stories by taking a hard look at the accountability factor of Multi Level Marketing and how it harms it's participants in more ways than just financial. Nandi thought she was in a loving relationship, working together toward the future, but realized there were other factors making decisions and pulling the strings. We talk about how Covid affected the business and the performative nature of the Clownshow of MLM regardless of the circumstances. Show Notes LuL...

Nov 24, 20241 hr 33 minSeason 4Ep. 274

Episode 273 : The AntiMLM Kid Part 2

In Part 2 of my conversation with The AntiMLM Kid, we talk about the fallacy of the nonexistent "Level Playing Field", how MLMs explain Pyramid Scheme payment checks to their reps, get into the Double Speak of Amway, and give some valuable advice for when you find yourself in an awkward conversation about your shoes and income potential in the aisles of your closest Big Box Store. Show Notes Follow The AntiMLM Kid : TikTok | Instagram Amway "Date" Gets Owned Out of MLM The BITE Model LAMLM Book ...

Nov 20, 20241 hr 5 minSeason 4Ep. 273
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