¶ Respectful Communication and Family Dynamics
It's not coming from a place to manipulate or invalidate your feelings . It's coming from a place of . We're genuinely trying to have a discussion about this topic so that we can arrive at a solution , but I'm telling you , on the road to the solution , what you're suggesting right now . It doesn't align with my belief .
It doesn't align , and that's the thing too , and then I'm going to submit my points with facts and feelings .
Yeah , what you think are facts yes , hey , everybody , welcome back to another episode of Life After I Do . I'm your host , nisha G , and I'm here with my husband when he's done , when he's done .
Molito .
Hi , hey .
Booskis , you remember when you called me ?
Hey there lonely girl .
You don't even listen to oldies like that .
Yes , I oh my god your oldies are stuff that's made in 97 I don't understand why you always try to play my life as soon as the camera starts rolling it's really disrespectful actually who's I ? Don't know who sings it , but I've listened to it since I was a child who's the best old school group of all time ? I don't know , babe , temptations , the .
Whispers . I stand on that . Y'all can fight me over that .
Whispers got hits boy , how was your week ? Babe , the Whispers boy , how was your week ?
The Spinders are a close second . Oh gosh , the Spinders are a close second , but them Whispers . You say you love me lady . That's my shit , you know . That's how you know my stuff , because I play it . That's how you know it Really .
I have a mother who was born in 1964 . Your mother was playing . Those are her oldies , I listen to them on a regular basis .
Your mother was playing Betty White and Millie Jackson .
How was your week , Maurice ? You know what I'm saying . How was your week , Maurice ?
You know what I'm saying . How was your week , baby Lil Marvin ?
Gaye , how was your week ? You know five songs , little Charlie West .
You want to battle . How was your week ? My week was good until just now . Oh , just now , when my wife , who swore to love , honor and cherish , goodbye , goodbye , the vows that she doubled down on last week .
I didn't double down on anything you know , I didn't double down on anything the vows that apparently she don't uphold this week because she's being madly disrespectful today .
Listen here . I stayed out of the steel mill this week . I don't know why if you listen to last week's episode you'll know .
I don't know why you could go you don't know what that's about . I'll go back , so I get a paycheck .
You wouldn't get anything .
No , I would . I get the money .
What money ?
From your paycheck .
Goodbye , anyway , how was your week , babe ?
My week was good .
Any highlights Lowlights .
My last day of work Lights when I clocked out the final time this week . That was my highlight Right and my low light was when I clocked in for the first time .
Oh man , it's nice to clock out though . Huh Like feeling like you get a break , like the break part .
I'm so sick of this stay-at-home mom routine . You act like you're struggling so hard .
First of all , I never said that , I was just merely like let me I clocked out for my regular job oh , okay .
I never clock out being a husband and a father except when you need a nap no , that was a break .
That was break time okay , except for when you need a break the law says I get a break .
And it wasn't really a break because she was up to her dad . Dad , this happened . Dad Dad , can you do this ?
Okay . So first you had set her up with the game and then I didn't know how to get back to the game . So I was like you got to go ask your dad and I knew you hadn't fallen asleep yet . So I was like hurry up and ask him before he actually like dozes off and go to sleep .
Then the next time I sent her up there , I sent her up there to get my headphones and she .
But you gotta say she busted .
I know she barges through the door she busted her door like she 5-0 .
She busted her . What ? Mommy just wants her headphones and she looking at me as she walk . She walking , looking at me and I'm like , get the damn headphones . That's why I'm going to lock this goddamn door . Y'all doing them . I'm just trying to get a couple minutes of sleep .
Must be nice .
Must be nice ,
¶ Domestic Chores and Work-Life Balance
man . I got up early today while y'all was snoring , both of y'all .
That's from the night . We were still in slumber from the night .
That's the cold bar . When I got out of the bed , she realized I wasn't next to her , no more , because she was emitting , you know , a 1000 degree Celsius heat off her body . Kelvin , I'm sorry , Kelvin is the word I was looking for . And so when she realized I wasn't there , she said and she went and cuddled with you . I said I don't care .
I said you shouldn't be in my bed .
And then when I got up she turned over . She was like good morning mom . I said I don't care . I said you shouldn't be in my bed . And then when I got up she turned over . She was like good morning Mom .
I was like good morning . She was like , can you get me some breakfast ?
And then she went back to sleep . She just be talking on her ass . Yeah , but the first thing she did ask for when she actually woke up , when I were on your way back home , she was like did dad have to go to work today ?
And I was like no , why does she ?
care , she was asleep . I was like no , she was like okay , good .
She was knocked out .
That girl was knocked out .
She was tired . I woke up and Like when we got home yesterday we were tired because I didn't realize like we were gone from 10 to like 6 30 .
I was going all day and we were going all freaking day and then on top of that it was hot and then I did all that driving and I was like when I got home I showered I said oh , oh , no , I'm , I'm tired , oh , but you don't say why I'm tired boy . Please cut it out . Cut it out . No one ever said I didn't know when you retire don't forget .
I do know what it feels like to actually work as well you , you do something one day . Really .
Really , how was your week , babe ? How was your week ? You're looking good with this lipstick on . I like it .
Thank you , I got something for you later .
My week was it doesn't matter how your week was Jabroni . I can't stand you . Yeah , jabroni , my week was okay . Jabroni , I can't stand you yeah .
Jabroni , my week was okay . Actually it was uneventful , just trying to get ready for all the things that's coming up .
Oh , my God .
The playdates are starting to roll in , oh my . God , the text messages are starting to come through .
Oh , my God .
Yeah , so you know that's where I'll be at the gym , the studio , a park .
Somebody else's house . Somebody else's house or the pool . Sounds like fun , sounds like cocktails and there's no cocktails involved . Sharkoochie boards .
Bye . There's no cocktails involved . No , but I did . I did get back to like working out this week .
So that was good . I got a great workout for you .
I know .
Hands on your knees , knees like Megan Bye .
Knees . Like Megan , I'm not doing this with you today , but yeah , my week was pretty good . Nothing really too eventful , just enjoying summer break , enjoying the kid Wait y'all get breaks , trying to keep her busy .
Wow , y'all get breaks . What's that like ?
It's like when you take four-hour naps in the middle of the day .
I was tired . Don't come to me .
It's like when you take four-hour naps in the middle of the day , uninterrupted .
I wasn't uninterrupted I didn't even know when you were asleep .
You were uninterrupted I was .
That's what it's kind of like .
I was knocked because I don't know what it's like to take a four-hour nap in the middle of the day , like the mid , like the the bulk , like in the middle .
Look here uninterrupted for nine months out of the year , interrupted nine months out of the year she's at school . That's crazy . From 7 40 , from 7 30 to 2 o'clock .
If you come home and go to sleep at a 10 okay , you can get , you know that does not work and I have tried , I have tried . We have literally had this conversation before don't get mad at me .
Your brain treats you bad .
Really , because my brain treats me bad . Okay , goodbye , I'm not doing this Anywho . Yeah , but other than that , on a scale of 1 to 10 , I give it a solid 7 .
That's low .
A 7 ? I think that's like solid .
I'm changing the rules .
The rules to what .
Because I feel like 7 is the number people give out when they just don't want to be mean .
I wouldn't be being mean to myself . I gave my personal week a seven .
It's just I don't like it . I say a seven because there's more I could have done . It doesn't matter , Jabroni .
But the things that needed to get done got done .
Oh , there's definitely more you could have done . We don't want to have that conversation really there is really definitely more really like what ?
huh , yeah , don't , don't , don't show your ass don't show your ass on this podcast , because you know you lose every single time you try to go up against me . It never works in your favor .
I won you . You're my wife , goodbye .
I cannot lose . You didn't win me .
I won your heart and that ass . Okay , anywho I worked this week I checked my time card 63 ?
Close . I know you worked 63 last week too .
This is ridiculous , it's really not . You worked 63 last week too . That's ridiculous . It's really not . Somebody need to give me a break .
Give me a break . Give me a break , okay , you what we got today .
Break me off a piece of that good , good bar . You ain't got no soul .
You said you didn't want a break . I said , babe , I'm going to tap in , but then when I tap in like you're gonna have to tap in on these dishes and tap in on this cleaning I can tap in .
I can tap in on on on dishes and cooking .
I can't do cleaning when I say dishes , the dishes is like the whole kitchen babe oh no , I'm not , I just work , I'm gonna work , I'm gonna work , I'd be like . Be like when you used to . You used to be like oh , I cleaned the kitchen . I'd be like , oh , okay . I'm going to wash the dishes , the dishes is washed , but then I look at the microwave .
I look at the stove , the countertop , like the cupboard , the front part of the cupboard . I'm like , did you sweep and mop the floor ?
I did . Sometimes I do , sometimes I do . I just try to make sure there ain't no dishes , because I know the dishes is the way it get on your nerves .
The dishes and the stove , just like when I took that picture and texted it to you , we got a stove , texted it to you this cat , okay , hold on y'all .
Hold on Now . You just triggered me , I triggered you .
Okay , we got to get into the topic and you're either boiling something or , if you're frying something , and we don't fry nothing here .
What are you talking about ? I ?
know , I'm just saying for context .
Okay .
If you're boiling something or frying something and how it starts popping or it spills out of the pan or something gets onto the stove . Right , this cat was boiling . I don't know what you were boiling , maybe it was the turkey necks or something for the cabbage , I don't know . I can't remember what he was boiling . But I go to look at the stove .
We have a stove cover that we put on . Like once you clean the stove , you put the stove cover on and I go to take the stove cover off and I look at the stove and there's clear , it's clear , clearly . You spilled something on the stove and you were the last person . You . He soars up and down . He didn't see it .
It's not possible that you did not see the spill that you made while cooking . It's not possible . And I legit took , I picked up my phone , I took a picture of it and I sent it to him and I said you know , this is a shame .
This is , and then his response was I didn't see it .
You absolutely did . You just didn't clean it .
Just be happy I cooked you a meal I don't see why you complain , because it does no good if it's your turn to cook look here it's your turn to cook and clean .
Obviously it defeats the purpose , otherwise I might as well just get in there and do it myself it's been rather warm lately and it's warm today .
you have a sweater on , so obviously your AC works .
My AC has always worked .
Your lights are on .
Uh-huh .
Your gas is on . You can wash your clothes . You can wash your ass in hot water . Yeah , I'm doing my part .
Goodbye .
Goodbye , you got smack noodles today .
Shout out to Smack Noodle City on Instagram . If you guys have not had Schmack Noodle City , their pad thai non-spicy . Are we plugging ?
people now I don't do spicy .
I just want to do that because it's my favorite . I don't mind that only because it's something I genuinely like .
So yeah , oh , okay , we shout out stuff we genuinely like .
Shout out to my wife Maurice . What we got today I'm so done with you . I'm so done with you . It's a video I want to read . I want , I can't . It's a video reaction . It's a video reaction for you , so I want you to take a listen and just , you know the usual business A gather , a gather .
Your partner I don't agree , I disagree . Stop telling your partner I don't agree , I disagree . That's gaslighting . You don't have to agree with your partner , but you must validate your partner . Validation I am making valid what you are feeling in this moment . I am validating in this moment your sadness . You see how that sounds versus .
I disagree with your sadness . Stop it . If we spent more time validating in this moment your sadness you see how that sounds versus . I disagree with your sadness . Stop it . If we spent more time validating .
We never have to bring up the disagreement because we're so focused on validating , we're so focused on understanding , we're so focused on getting into where they are , we're so focused on diving in that pool . If your partner's drowning in their emotions , in their feelings , and you dive in the pool , now is not the time to talk about safety .
Now is not the time to talk about how they should have . Saw the sign on the gate that said no swimming after five . That's not the time to do that . Get in the pool , save your spouse . Focus on feelings . Talk about facts . Later an ambulance goes to hurt , help an injured person . They're bleeding . Get that person bandaged up .
Get and then talk about okay , why were you smoking crack in the first place .
You know that's the part that took me out and then talk about why you were smoking crack in the first place you know okay . So I know I okay for me , first go ahead . I don't . I know he . He says that that's gaslighting , like when you're in a discussion with your partner and you're like I don't agree , that's gaslighting for me .
Personally , I don't constitute that as gaslighting . Um , I agree , I don't constitute that as gaslighting .
I agree .
I don't constitute that as gaslighting . However , however , I can see how some might see it through that that lens . You know what I mean , but I personally don't see it as gaslighting , for one of the major reasons is I mean , you know me playing both sides . I mean , you know me playing both sides .
I don't see it as a form of manipulation , but I could see how some people could use it as a form of manipulation by making a statement like that .
So you're saying the intent matters .
Oh , absolutely .
Always Okay .
Always , but , like I know , through discussions , like when we're having disagreements or something you've said that to me before Like I disagree or like I don't see it that way , or like we've had that discussion , but then the other side to that is the discussion of like I mean not the discussion , but having the empathy and the the strength to validate each
other's feelings . Does that make sense ? Because I think really what he's talking about is not validating or emotionally validating your partner , Right .
See , I have an issue with this Issue , with what A bunch of things .
Okay , let's run it down Right , give it to me .
So here's my thing I'm not saying he's wrong , I'm not saying he's right . I think it depends on it . I think it depends on the situation and it depends on the intent , and so my response is going to be coming from a person with good intent . Right Now .
My thing is that I can validate your feelings and say I understand you feel this way , but you're wrong in your feelings Not necessarily wrong in your feelings , but your outlook isn't correct at the time , right .
But that's not for you to say .
Okay , hold on Okay .
But if we're talking about something where it factually what you're saying does not make sense , it is okay if if there's proven hardcore right .
If there's right right , because you've like , I can tell you up and down that you can . You can say right now , you can say that your lipstick is blue and cry about it when I tell you , no , it's red factually , your lipstick is red right now . I mean it's not . Majority of society would agree that it's red .
Factually , your lipstick is red right now . I mean majority of society would agree that it is red . But some parts of society will also say that it is blue .
Okay , whatever , you go ahead on me . So my thing is , I don't see that as gaslighting , because I feel like part of that depending on the circumstance and the situation part of that is that you're also telling the person to accept accountability for what you just did .
Right , because you can feel bad or feel upset , or even feel like sadness in a situation where they're not and being the wrong right Me telling you that I don't agree or that you shouldn't do that . That's not invalidating your feelings . That's me going to the facts of the situation .
I'm going to help you out in that situation , but we're also I do agree at the time that you don't have to have that conversation at that time , all the time , but also , but when we have that conversation , I'm going to tell you that no , you were wrong , you shouldn't have been doing this , and this is the way I see things .
I don't agree with the way you chose to handle this situation or this particular task .
Okay , but you have to speak the facts , you have to speak to the facts , but not in the moment . So I think what he's saying in the clip is like to the moment .
¶ Emotional Validation in Communication
Okay , so that I agree with In the moment .
It's important to validate emotionally .
Okay , here's the thing , See , and I don't know , people may think I'm an asshole for this In a moment . I feel like I have to validate your feelings in order for us to have an honest conversation later .
Like to get through what we're going through now so that we can actually talk about what we need to talk about .
I need you to get through whatever you're feeling now so we can get back happen when emotions are not running , so when emotions are not high and how we're going to proceed , moving forward okay , so that part I agree I do agree in the moment .
In the moment , you have to just accept it , right yeah because a lot of times I do feel like when emotions are heightened um there's no rationality no , and there's a lot of blockades right .
There's a lot of I do ?
I do agree with the fact that sometimes you need to let things settle down . Let's's just focus . Let's just focus , as he was saying , let's just focus on , like , the mental state .
The matter at hand right now .
Your mental matter at hand . So let's get you out of this situation . But then , after we're done with this situation , I'm going to ask you why you smoking crack Like Once I get you out the pool once .
I get you out the pool , then I'm going to ask Did you not see the sign Did ? You not see the sign Right ? That said no swimming after five .
But see , my problem is that it's hard to continue to do that when you come across situations to where you're always , because you have people out here who are very emotional .
Yeah .
And their emotions dictate their responses . Their reactions .
That's a human thing .
I understand that . Right , but they're overly emotional .
I'm talking about the overly emotional people right .
Where I'm talking about the people that you look at them without saying something . They'll start crying because they just , in their mind , they've made up what you're going to say right . So in those instances you got to address that in the moment , because you know , like I don't think , because you know like I disagree , that's fine . You can do it again .
And I also think , like what just happened now , I also think it depends on the dynamic of the relationship because , like I understand , I understand , like when I tell you or when you tell me that you disagree , you agree that it's not necessary . That's not you invalidating what I feel .
Right .
You're just saying that I don't feel the same way about this as you .
And I think that's because you know me .
And I know you , and you know where that's coming from , and you know where that's coming from .
Stop it . And you know where that's coming from , that thing . You know where . Babe , stop you . Look good , I'm sorry . You know it's not coming from a place to manipulate or invalidate your feelings . It's coming from a place of .
We're genuinely trying to have a discussion about this topic so that we can arrive at a solution , but I'm telling you , on the road to the solution , what you're suggesting right now . It doesn't align with my belief .
It doesn't align , and that's the thing too , and then I'm going to submit my points with facts and feelings . Yeah , what you think are facts yes , I disagree . Points with facts and feelings yeah , what you think are facts , yes , I disagree .
You call that you think you slick . I mean , we've had some come on now . I feel like we've had some discussions where I was spitting what I thought was facts and you were like and then you were spitting what you thought were facts , and I was was like you tried it , though I had to be rabid .
You tried it , though you need to get the reference .
No , the rap reference .
Be rabid the rap reference .
Yes , the rap reference . I had to be rabid , you're going to get enough of underestimating me .
I don't mind being under you at all .
Goodbye , but yeah , so I think that is not a form of manipulation only because manipulation has , like you're trying to , or gaslighting . I'm sorry , gaslighting has manipulation in it is what I was trying to say Right , but you're gaslighting to get a reaction . Right right .
Or you're trying to manipulate them into believing something that you know not to be true , which is essentially trying to manipulate them into believing something that you know not to be true , which is like essentially trying to drive them crazy , right , and I've said this to a couple of friends Like no , you're being gaslit , yeah , like when you , from the outside ,
my view , you take it how you want to take it , yeah , but it looks like you just they're gaslighting you , right and so , and you're falling for it .
You're falling for it because they're getting a reaction out of you . They're making you second guess your feelings and your thoughts and your emotions .
And the thing is is that you're sitting here and you're letting your emotions take the best of you . You're letting your emotions blur the facts in front of you .
Yeah , yeah . And so I think when there is a form of gaslighting that's happening like if there is not the intent of it being genuine , and you do have somebody who's using that line of I , I disagree , I disagree , and then they're kind of like turning it back onto you and now making you second guess how you feel that that is gaslighting .
I just thought you know who's been gaslighting me recently don't , don't say our child all right , that's who , that's who it is . I've been wanting to smart , smart to kick this little child . Sometimes that's who , that's who it is . I've been wanting to smart , smart to kick this little child .
So she's not gaslighting you .
Yeah , she , she's very much in her child manipulation bag . She in her bag Cause she be tugging at my heartstrings and she's testing boundaries . And she's .
She's just trying to figure out the button .
She North Korea right now .
Okay , bye right now . Okay , bye , that's . That's what she is . Back back to the back to the subject right now . Back to the subject , and I'm about to launch these missiles . Um , yes , I do . I do agree from the perspective of using that statement .
I disagree in the form of gaslighting , where it's manipulating the partner disagree no , I'm saying through the scope , like I could also see how he would say through the scope .
What are your intellectual goodbye ? I can also see how he would say .
Through the scope . What are you intellectual Goodbye . I can also see how he is saying that it could be a form of gaslighting if the person is intentionally using it to manipulate and invalidate your feelings yes , and that's why I said the intent . That can be true .
Two things can be true at the same time and that's why I said the intent matters and that's why I said my response is coming from someone with good intent .
Yeah .
Right Now . If my intent is to , if my intentions are bad , yeah , I'm gaslighting you , Because I'm doing this for somewhat of my music and my satisfaction .
Or just to get out of it .
Right .
To make use . So here's my thing .
This is what I just thought about this If every time you go into a disagreement or an argument with your partner and you are left feeling like you're questioning yourself , questioning your feelings , you're a little bit confused in your mind , like you went in with clear , clear , um , like a clear direction and explaining to them how you feel and how something made
you feel , and then it gets turned back on you and now you're feeling like , well , damn , he's right , like I shouldn't feel this way because he , like you , know what I mean . Like if you come , if you came to me and said like um , I don't know , just something random .
Like , oh , I feel like I've been doing such , such , such and this , this , that and the third for you , I also did this . And did you forget that I also did such and such ? And I start flipping it back on you . And now the concern that you came to me with you're just like , well , damn , she right , she , she's been doing this , that and the third .
And here I am being ungrateful and that's a form of manipulation .
That works two ways . That wouldn't work for me because I'd be like those things ain't important . You're missing out on what's important to me , right ?
now . But that could be a form of manipulation , because then now that left the person feeling like , well damn , I'm not valid in the concern that I have and . I brought to him because you know he does do this and All I'm sitting here doing is complaining , and maybe I you know what I mean . Now , that is gaslighting .
Right and from what you're saying like that , to me that just sounds like a basic disconnect .
That's a big disconnect .
Okay right .
Because if that's the situation every time you go into a disagreement , that's not a disconnect , that's toxic and I hate to use like mainstream verbiage like that , but that's toxic .
Is it masculine toxicity ?
That's not a thing , but go ahead .
But , like I was saying , so that's a disconnect , and I was going to say a disconnect of huge proportion , right ? And a lot of times , like when it's that big , that's something that can't be fixed with a conversation .
Sometimes those are things that may be deal breakers , because if you just can't see things the way I see them , and you're not even trying to meet me where I see them , but you just want me to be okay with the way things are , that's an issue for me , right ?
So like if I told you every day , like , um , I'm trying to think of an example with us , right ? Um , I don't want to start no arguments , so , like , real quick .
That was good . I don't want to start no argument .
Right , so like , if I think about , like Just think of something random . Like the thing with the alarm clock right .
Okay , oh , you decided and that's what you leaned on .
Yes , alina , right , so it was like Not a good idea , right , I didn't want to start an argument , but at the same time , now in hindsight , I didn't convey to you just how big of a deal it was for me , right , right .
So it was kind of like my fault , but in the moment I felt like , hey , I've been dropping all these hints trying to get her to understand that I guess she just don't care . So that was so , that was yeah , because it's kind of like how men say we can't read your minds to women .
It's kind of like the same thing , but I have said those words Because you know I'm not a rabbit , so you can't just like leave crumbs and then expect me to be like hopping on the crumbs and like picking them up so I can get the gist of what you're trying to say .
If you can text me and say who the hell is this ? Just comment on your Facebook post . You can re-chrome .
First of all , I have never texted you and asked you who commented on your Facebook post . Please don't get in front of the camera and lie in front of these people . Please don't do that . Don't do that . When have I done that ? I don't recall . Okay , I'll show you a text message , okay , show me because I don't remember but yeah , that's what I'm saying .
It's a disconnect .
Okay , so now my question to you would be you got a lot of questions . How do you okay ? So let's say you have a friend who comes to you and your friend is like you know , my girl is gaslighting me , or vice versa , whatever . How do you like ? What advice would you give someone who's being gaslit ?
What advice would I give them ? Yeah , what advice would you give them ? I would say you have to find within yourself that makes you trigger so easily . First , because when they gaslight you , they're triggering you , they're triggering their emotions in you to trigger their response .
Yeah , but , it's more of a manipulation Right , so I would say that you need to practice being outside of the situation .
Thinking of it from yeah , Okay .
So my initial reaction would be look at it , look at everything , think about everything before you react . Period , right ? So no matter what is being said , no matter who it's coming from , before you respond , think about what was said , think about how you respond and how , how you want to respond .
Think about how you want to respond and then think about what was said think about how you respond and how and how you want to respond . Think about how you want to respond and then think about how you want to respond will be portrayed and then respond like , how ?
like your response , what is right ? What is the ? What is the result that you're trying to get from your response ? Right and I think that's really important because I , you know , a few pods back , like when I have said to you where , before I called you with something , I really had to really check myself , like don't have an attitude , don't raise your voice .
Don't have attitude in your voice .
And you know I sandwiched you a lot . I always Oreo him . Like I start . You know what I mean Like , but that's me being intentional .
But you're not my manager .
I know I'm not trying to be your manager .
I'm not trying to be your manager but I also know that I have to handle you Now , I'm thinking about it you can train my managers because they could do a better job .
I have to hand . I don't like using it in this context , but for lack of better verbiage , I have to handle you a certain way when it comes to engaging in conversations that I think , stop it . That I think could potentially turn confrontational or turn into an argument .
I have to be mindful of the words that I use , the tone that I use , the time in which I talk to you , which you know , sometimes for me it'd be too much to consider , Like sometimes for me just be , it'd be too much to consider , like sometimes I really just gotta have the conversation .
But I know that I also don't want , I don't want to distract I don't want to distract you from what it is . I'm actually trying to convey to you , right like I'm really trying to get you to understand where I'm coming from like this is my feeling you're so . You're being purposeful with your words and your timing and my timing and .
I appreciate that , because that matters .
It does matter .
Because you want to trigger a response of open dialogue and not a response of resistance .
Right , and I genuinely want you to .
¶ Communication Styles in Relationships
I don't necessarily want to say I genuinely want you to understand where I'm coming from , but I genuinely want you to see my perspective about it , because what I've learned in the eight years of being married to you , is that when we have disagreements or when I'm trying to convey something to you , trying to get you to feel the way that I feel is not going
to work because you and I are completely different people , right ? So instead of me trying to get you to like I just want you to understand how I feel . I just want you're not going to understand how I feel . And that's why , when I have certain conversations with you , I try not to take it the emotional route as much , because that doesn't translate to you .
It has to be the OK , let me . Let me tell it from a like a more clear perspective about logistics or about how the structure is going to work or how the .
You do a good job of conveying how you feel to me , and not necessarily how you feel , but how I made you feel , by how I either said something or reacted to something . Right right that you do , and I don't feel like you attack me . I feel like that's just you giving me a review of my interaction with you , right .
Like when I asked you , when you said , oh , what was it ? I think the perfect example was that was you had asked me to it had something to do with our cards . You had asked me to , like , go to the bank or something to put money in this account , or something like that . And I had asked you okay , why ? What's wrong with the ?
card that you have , and then you were like , like you were really holding , you were really holding your frustration , and so then that caused me ?
well , that had caught . No , you didn't already explain it to me ? You got annoyed that I was asking you questions and you were like this is just something that needs to be done and I just need you to take care of it .
Because that's what's like it was in front of you at that moment and because it was important at that moment and it had to do with our finances , you're like like you were basically telling me I don't need you to ask any questions right now , just take care of it .
And so then of course , that resulted in me like okay , well , I didn't need the attitude , like I didn't need the attitude , like I think that was a little rude and a little disrespectful . But instead of coming at you like what the hell you mad about , or you know what I mean , it was just I was just kindly reminding you .
Hey , I didn't deserve , I didn't deserve the attitude that you just gave me , you just sound just like your mama right now . I didn't deserve the attitude that you gave me and the way you did I not , and I said the way you responded to me I feel is a little disrespectful .
Oh well , you always Didn't I , but didn't I not say that ?
And then , you kind of like relaxed and calmed down . And then it was like you took a moment in your brain like OK , she , she may be right or whatever , and I need her to get this done .
So it was more like I apologize , I didn't mean to come off so strongly , but this is why I need you to do such and such , because in my mind I'm like there's certain times where we talk and it's like , okay , I'll explain Other times .
I just need to get this shit done .
Right , and that's what I said . That's where the space you were coming from and I'm like , I'm not and a lot of like , like .
I understand that I don't have to explain myself and I'm not saying that I'm not willing to explain myself to you because I love you , but it's sometimes I'm like just do what the hell I asked you to do , right but on the same token , I we do have situations like that where you've asked me to do something and I'm just like I don't even care to inquire why
you're asking me to do it .
I just I'm like , okay , let me just do it . But in the times where I ask you why I am entitled to an answer .
You are entitled to an answer . I'm entitled to an answer .
No , that's not how that works .
When I'm ready . You can't force me to talk to you . No , and you can't force me to do , I will hush the rest of this episode .
And then you can't force you to stop , like you have found out in the past . You also know that that type of attitude doesn't fly with me because I know my partner . So it's like if , if , if I need a little bit more security in the form of an explanation to have a better understanding , then I'm like , okay , yeah , I'm gonna go ahead and do it .
But if it's something that you're asking me to do and I'm like , okay , I need a little bit more clarification , like I want to know why you're moving X amount of money over here . I want to know why you're cashing X amount of money out , like those are . Those are things that I'm going to need you to explain .
I'm going to need you to explain right now , because my side chick needs something .
I'm going to need you to explain right now .
Because my side chick needs something .
Good damn . Bye , maurice , goodbye , you haven't even been at the steel mill . Please , Please , you haven't even been at the steel mill . Cut it out .
¶ Broken Promises and Household Responsibilities
But like , again going back to the beginning , like you said , that's also about knowing the type of partner you have Right , the type of partner you have right .
So if you have somebody who's constantly throwing things back on you and leaving you more confused and more emotional after you walk away from trying to have a discussion about either your feelings or a certain situation , then I think that needs to be re-evaluated .
I would say even to the point of the video right . I feel like consistent , broken promises is more gaslighting than me telling you and validating your feelings in the moment . I feel like that's more damaging .
Consistent broken promises Right .
Like if you keep telling me you're going to do something and you don't follow through with something consistently . Like if you keep telling me you're going to do something and you don't follow through with something consistently , and now and now , like I , I my my first reaction to anything you tell me like okay , we'll see .
Like well , yeah , because now you've set a precedent that it's it's not going to get done . You know it's . It's kind of like if you tell me you know like you get that G wagon . Yeah , you're good , I'm bye . You ain , you get that .
G-Wagon . Yeah Bye , you ain't getting that G-Wagon .
Goodbye , I will one day . Maybe , tomorrow , even if I'm 80 .
I can get you a model .
You know what that's probably . You know what that's not a bad idea , that's where you start . Give me a model so I can put it on my desk , and every time I'm at my desk and I'm doing something , I'm going to look at it and I'm going to be like you know what .
Alright , it didn't work .
Sorry , got distracted and sidetracked it . Yeah , I forgot what I was saying because you distracted me .
That's why I said that .
You always distract me , purposely . Stop it Anyway , yes , so I do think that that's grounds for reevaluate Broken promises .
Yes , Thank you .
So if you're constantly dealing with broken promises , like you're constantly telling me you're going to do something and you never come through , then it's just like anything you say after that .
Because I'm looking at it from the angle of if you promise me something and I get my hopes up , and then you don't meet , and then you promise me and I get my hopes up , you don't meet right .
So over time , you literally have crushed my expectations of you , you've lowered them , and then at some point I'm going to question myself , like why do I keep allowing this to happen to me , like to happen to me , like .
So that's why I said , like , I feel like that's , that's gas , that gaslighting is way more damaging than me telling you , hey , I understand , you said , but get your ass out the water right now .
Really .
And stop smoking crack .
When he said that , I was like wow . Stop smoking , that crack but you know , what I did like what he said is , um , what he said something to the along the lines of worry about , like the emotions right now and the facts later .
Yeah , that , I think that's very much true , because and I I think that's true I think that's true in extreme situations I think you mean like I don't like because , like if you're going through a traumatic experience , yes , I have to worry about your emotions .
Right .
We'll deal with the facts of how we got here after you calm down Right . I don't think that applies to every situation , right ?
Okay , if I told you to do something and you don't do it , or if I asked you to do something , to have something done and you don't do it , right , I'm not going to sit here and say I'm not going to validate the fact that you were sad and that's why you couldn't finish .
No , the fact of the matter is , you're not going to use your feelings as an excuse to get out of what you didn't do . You're not going to use your feelings as a way to not take accountability for your lack of time management . That's what we're not going to do . At some point , I feel like and this may be harsh I feel like this may be harsh .
I feel like we're all adults , we all have , we're all stressed , we all get sad everybody has something going on . We all get depressed and most people have a 10 times worse thing right , right , but at the end of the day I have to put my pants on and still do what I have to do .
So like for me , especially like this last month how I've been working all these hours . I'm like I don't want to hear what you ain't have time to do . You know how much I've been killing myself . I don't care how you feel . You think I , you think I want to walk out .
Oh wow , is that how you feel about me ?
I mean , I care how you feel , but oh , I care how you feel the truth , I care how you feel . I just don't . I don't care about you being . I don't care about you , uh , being a little sad today . I need you to go ahead and make sure , wow wow , I don't care about you being a little sad today .
I need you to get that's funny because if I look an ounce sad , the first person that be in my face is you . What's going on ? I care about you , but you just said you know I don't care about you being a little sad .
I don't care about you being sad and the fact that you still got to get shit done .
Oh well . I mean so you could be sad I get through the things that I have to get done anyway . Sad , sad and depressed .
So what I'm saying is you could be sad , but make sure them dishes is clean .
Good damn bye . Good damn bye , DeMille . Good damn bye . You could be sad , Just make sure you could be sad . But I need uniforms for this week . Just make sure you can be sad . But I still want chicken salad . Hey , you can be sad and depressed , but the bathroom needs to be cleaned .
Well , I mean , as long as the shower is clean , I don't really care about the toilet . I stand up .
Absolutely Wait . That just reminded me . Somebody posted a picture .
Because I got three options the toilet Wait , Somebody posted the picture .
Because I got three options the toilet Wait , somebody posted the picture of the side of the toilet and it says this is how you know the bathroom is clean If the side of the toilet is clean . If the side of your toilet is dirty , your bathroom is dirty , oh , so . Good damn bye . Good damn bye . You know , the side of my toilet is not dirty . Cut it out .
We made an agreement that he would not clean bathrooms a decade ago . He cleaned a bathroom . We had a one-bedroom apartment and he called himself cleaning the bathroom . One day he was like babe , I cleaned the bathroom . I walked in that bathroom . I was like you mean , you cleaned the shower , you didn't clean that mirror , you didn't clean the toilet .
I can't clean toilets .
I can't Look at the toilet . It's in the bathroom . I can't do it . I did the floors and the tub and the sink , that's it . That's all I want . I can't do toilets .
I said was , I said okay , so I can see .
Now we need to set like some ground rules . So for the past , what 12 , 13 years for ?
the past 22 years . Basically , he doesn't clean bathrooms , but I also don't check the mail , I don't take out the trash , I don't break down boxes and you have a lot of boxes shipped here and what's , what's funny but here's the thing . What's funny is , when we moved here , I remember the first time I had to check the mail .
It was probably like we were here maybe a year , I think like a year or something . And the only reason why I wanted to check the mail is because I had something coming and I was getting impatient and I was like damn , which one's our mailbox and which one's the mailbox key and you know who had to show me where my mailbox was your daughter .
Your daughter mailbox key and you know who had to show me where my daughter was your daughter , your daughter wait so ?
no , that wasn't even a year . Because she was like , she was like three , she was like three or four because it's our little thing oh wow , so that was yeah because our little thing is anytime I go to my box . Yes , she would go with you .
She has to go with me and I remember I had to go to the mailbox and I was gonna call you and she was with me and she's like , she's like pointing , like it's this one , and I was like , oh shit , you know where the mail is . Look at you , you're so smart .
I ain't checked the mail in three weeks .
And don't pay me no mind , Ain't nothing out there . I was like and everything's digital anyway . Everything's online and you get like notifications .
Right .
And I'm not concerned because I get a notification every time my bill gets paid .
So as long as .
I get a bill notification that it's paid . I don't really care . So I mean your final thoughts on that . My final thoughts are I don't believe telling your partner that you disagree is gaslighting . I think that was the wrong .
I agree .
Wrong word to use gaslighting , I think that was the wrong word to use . I do , however . I , however , can see that using those particular words like I disagree , can be a form of invalidation , depending on what you're talking about to your partner , but I don't believe that it's gaslighting .
But I do believe that it could be a form of like invalidating them emotionally , especially if you're in a heated debate like if you guys are going back and forth , nobody's listening to each other or whatever and then they say something you're like oh , I completely disagree , I complete . And then they're like of course you do , because you always do .
Then like that , then yes , like you're not gonna get anywhere , okay I agree , I agree , that's it , you agree , I agree . I can't with you , so yeah I disagree about that .
You can with me you what you can with me I can what you just said . I can't with you , but you can with me okay , okay , goodbye . Because we have a daughter .
Well , let's see if you can with this . Let's get your thoughts Going into our two cents .
I got to hold on .
Okay , you ready .
Do I have a choice ?
Am I the asshole for going on vacation without my girlfriend if she can't pay her way ? Hi all , I'm a 39-year-old male dating someone who's a 33 year old female , and have been for the past three months . Things are going well , up until the topic of my 40th birthday next year . I turned 40 and I've never taken an actual vacation .
I've extended work trips to do something fun where I am . I've traveled to visit friends or families , always just for a long weekend , never more than three days . I want to take a week and travel purely for recreational purposes . My criteria is that the trip needs to be at least two weeks long and be international , ballin' right .
I've always worked hard to get my finances in shape since my 20s and now I have a decent business and some money set aside , and I feel like I'm ready for a trip next year and it will be a great opportunity , as it is a milestone for my birthday .
¶ Financial Boundaries in New Relationships
My girlfriend is great . She works hard and supports herself , but she doesn't make as much money as me and , most importantly , is currently saddled with around $20,000 in credit card debt arising from a period of unexpected unemployment she had in the past that forced her to burn through her savings and live on credit cards .
When the topic of the trio of the trip came up , she first asked if she could go and I said sure . She then asked if we could go to Vegas . I told her about my desire for it to be an international trip . Then she expressed concern over if she could afford it while in debt .
I told her that I would be willing to cover the lodging and , depending on where we go , help her pay for the airfare , because we haven't been dating long , I don't feel comfortable paying for her the whole way and I feel that she should contribute financially to come along .
She then told me that she didn't feel that she could afford to cover the meals plus half airfare , even if I went somewhere relatively cheap and I was possibly thinking about the Caribbean , because the flights are running about under $500 .
So I said that I understood , but I also have been wanting to do this milestone birthday thing for a while now and I still intend on going , even if it is just by myself and only one week . She became upset that I would travel without her and it caused a bit of a fight . My friends and family are split .
On one hand , some point out how many things I've wanted to do but didn't get to do because of my ex who refused to let me go on by myself , and so on and so forth my ex who refused to let me go on by myself , and so on and so forth .
On the other hand , some are saying it's cruel of me to be planning a vacation in front of a person who is trying to pay off a large amount of debt . Anyway , I can see both sides and I just want to know am I the asshole ?
Not at all .
No no no .
Live your life .
Okay .
First of all , let me say this Okay , first of all , let me say this he agreed to pay for lodging , which is the hotel .
And half of her airfare .
Half the airfare .
Right . And like so and you know he's going to pay for dinner when you guys go out , he's going to at least pay for your food . He's literally paying . He's still really paying , all of it .
He's offering to pay for most of it . Yeah , this is how a woman ain't smart . If she was smart , she'd be like babe , let's go to you . Wanna go to the Caribbean ? Let's just go to Sandals , it's all inclusive boom .
It's all inclusive and I'll pay for the drink package . It's all inclusive she ain't playing it right , but he's not an asshole , okay . So here's the thing . I think the part of him asking am I the asshole ?
is because he feels bad yes , and because that if that's his girlfriend , like the people , and that's why women are the problem people would be thinking like that if that's your girl and that's your woman , how could you plan a big , a big milestone trip and not just take her along with you ? It shouldn't be a well , I can cover half and I can do this .
If that's your girl and that's your woman , then take her on the trip with you . I can see that perspective . On the other hand , he's kind of saying we only been dating for a few months .
He said we fresh , I might see , I might meet somebody in the caribbean .
I don't think that's what he's making before her ticket ? I don't think that's what he said . I don't think that's what he said . I don't think I don't think he's beat , I don't think the the term him being an asshole um fits the situation .
Um , if I'm being , if I'm being 100 honest , like , like , if I'm really gonna be real , if I was dating someone and he was like , oh , I want to take a really big 40th birthday like trip .
I want to take a really big 40th birthday trip and he was like you know , and I want to go here , I want to go there , and I'm like , oh , OK , like automatically in my mind . I would be thinking , especially if we've only been dating for three months , I would be thinking OK , I want to at least have some ducks in a row .
But on the other hand , I honestly would be expecting him to be like babe , like , of course I got to be a woman . Listen , you can , you can say that . But , like I'm saying in the back of my head , I would be counting , like , ok , let me start putting somebody aside , because I don't want to assume he's going to say that .
Do I expect him to say that ? I expect him to say that , but I'm not going to assume that he's going to say that .
So if he would have came to me and said , babe , I can cover half of the airfare , I can cover our lodging , you know , for me I would be like , okay , like , let me , let's see exactly where you want to go , so I know exactly how much money I need to put back , because , regardless , it's still a fresh relationship .
I'm not going to go nowhere internationally with you anyway and not have a means to take care of myself or be able to get my ass back home , right , because we've only been dating for three months , so we're still getting to know each other . So now we're about to take this really big leap in traveling internationally with each other .
I need to be able to make sure that I'm not so broke that , if something goes awry , that I can't get my ass back home on my own dime . That just for me . That would be irresponsible for a woman to do that after dating somebody for three ?
months , but I would expect him to be like babe don't worry , I got you In my mind as a man . I've only . I've been planning this for a while . I've been with you three months , so I don't know you like that .
I mean , he hasn't been planning it for a while ?
I don't know you like that this has just been on his mind . I don't know you like that .
It's been on his mind .
I don't know you like that Okay .
Well , I mean that's fine , but , like I said , I'm going to make sure that doesn't change the fact that I still would like part of me would be waiting for you to be like babe , what you tripping for I got you , you messing with me .
you gonna be waiting for a while .
Well , I mean not me , I'm not taking you , okay . Okay , let me see you leave the country and I'm not by your side . Okay , take my child , not by your side . Okay , take my child , the one that you can't even be at home with for like long periods at a time . You're going to travel with her internationally on your own .
She be growing by then .
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