He says she's so sweet. Welcome back to the magical place of Candyland. So it's just us, but we did hit our 100th episode you all. We are official. I don't know how long ago, like when we started, if we thought we would make it this far, but like I'm really proud of us for not like giving up even when we've had to like take a break or take a set back or something. It's really cool how we're able to like keep going and not run out of things to talk about.
We don't run out of things to talk about. But yeah, like, I don't know, we are just flexible with each other. If something's not, you know, lining up timing wise, we're not able to do it or life is crazy, then we're like, hey, let's we're going to skip to every other week or throw a guest in here real quick and, you know, spice it up a little bit. So I feel like that's part of the longevity is that we're not super strict on ourselves.
I think that we want to be probably a little bit stricter, but I think that being graceful for a little while while we've had stuff going on is really important. Yeah. And I think that also with projects, like you evolve into different people as you dedicate yourself to a project, A cause, some type of hobby, you know, like the more you do something, the more that you evolve as a person and you feel more confident in what you're doing.
And I think that's what's really beautiful about like spiritual reality overall is it's helped me find myself and like, explore new things where, you know, I never dreamed I would have a podcast or I never dreamed certain things. But with the power of consistency, anything is possible. When you were a kid, did you know, like, oh, people are going to like, eventually listen to my voice or like, somehow I'm going to, like, end up influencing
people, but you didn't know how? I've always felt very much like a leader and like I always had my own style, my own like, quirks about me. So I've always been very unique and I did always feel like I would do something great in the world, but like, I never really knew. And what's weird about it is I always thought that I was going
to become a marine biologist. And so many people in our generation had that same dream is, from what I heard on the Internet, like, there was like a Reddit thread of like, what you thought you would be and what age you are. And perhaps in the 90s, a lot of us thought we were gonna become marine biologists because of Lisa Frank and the dolphins or something. I don't know. But it's just funny that I never even once pursued that in my adult life. Ever. So I'm gonna have two different things.
So first of all, I'm gonna tell you what I thought I was gonna be. And then I think that we should talk about the quirky shit that we did as kids that were like trend setter, that we were like, this is the fucking trend that I'm about to pop it off because I could tell you a couple too. And I just think that would be fucking hilarious. So I thought I was going to be an archaeologist. I was going to dig up bones. I was going to find the next Kingy Tut. I was going to unearth the
mummies. That is my whole childhood. I thought I was going to be an archaeologist. And then I was super and like, I auditioned for the Voice and like I did a bunch of stuff and like, really wanted to like go somewhere with singing. And I'll never forget if my I went, I did the auditions and stuff. And my mom made the comment like, yeah, I was talking to some girls at work. And it turns out that like every 15 year old girl, like, wants to be a singer.
And I was like, crushed because in my, like, teenage mind, my mom didn't support me. Every other bitch was trying to be me. I wasn't special because I was doing the same things as all these other girls, every Brittany and Ashley, you know? So I just gave up on that off of that one simple comment. And as an adult, I'm like, that's so silly. But that wasn't meant to be my path. But I should be out there in the fucking dirt as an archaeologist. But then I can't have my nails done.
So I wouldn't have been my true self and it would have been like an identity crisis. You know what's so funny about that is Gemini just gave me a reading you all and I glanced at it and then the first paragraph, it tells me that I need to write songs and sing them just So I guess we're going to start a band. Gemini is actually on the podcast now letting me know that we're going to expand into a duo and we're looking for a trio. What? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I'm. Like wait. We didn't have to sing in my reading and then I haven't finished reading all of it, but that is something that stood out about what you said. So when I was younger, I used to have a karaoke machine and I used to karaoke songs like Mustang Sally was probably my debut song, but there was a lot of songs I would sing on the karaoke machine. What I always thought that I would do is just like something that I'd don't even know, like the marine biology thing.
Like I don't know what made me think I was going to do that. Like, I don't know what movie I watched or like what turned me on to that. But then when I went to college, I was going to become a psychiatrist. Like I was going to go to school, become a doctor and write, write crazy pills to people. But I decided I too myself was a little crazy and I wasn't going to fit into the structural discipline of the mind.
And once I took like enough beginner, like one O 1 and two O 1 psych and sociology classes, I was like, yeah, this isn't going to work for me. So then I just converted to my true passion, which is talking. So I can't imagine that I probably in my head thought someone would hear me one day because I love to talk. And I used to record myself on like, little. You remember those little recorder things you'd get? Yeah.
And I'd interview people. I would, I would talk to them and interview them and ask them questions on the recorder. And it was purple and it had like a little microphone and I could hold it up and record video on it. It was. It was lit. I remember when I was like 9 or 10 and I got a one of those like cash registers, like you used to get one of the fake cash registers and I have the money. Well, I had a Barbie one and that bitch was top tier cash registration.
And I was, I can't believe that more people aren't cashiers. I'd be in my room, deep, deep, deep, scanning her right across, used to make the sound that used to light up. My brother would be the customer and he'd be like, Oh my God, blah, blah, blah. But then I used to like ask him questions about his life and pretend I was interviewing him. And we were on a show being filmed. And I was like the grocery store lady. And I was asking him questions and he had to tell me about his
life. And then I'd be like, here's your bag. OK, so my first job was at a grocery store and I was 12 and my aunt owned the store so she would let me push carts. And if you technically you can legally work, you really can at a certain age with parent consent. So I would work there and just get grocery carts and like bag groceries. And it was like one of those things that segwayed me into my cashier job straight up. I was a cashier at a grocery
store for a little bit. He said straight up, I don't know what the legal working age is here in Idaho, but I feel like kids don't start working the way that we did at like younger ages right now. And I don't know if that's like a stranger danger thing. I don't know what it is, but I know that for me, I was always walking dogs, going and doing things for people, babysitting their kids. I got CPR certified when I was, I think you had to be 11.
I think I was 11 and I went to like the Red Cross and did it and stuff. But then I like interned in high school and stuff. So I don't when you say 12, I'm like, Oh yeah. Like we were working when we were like super young kids. Yeah, I don't think these kids have any work ethic. I think people said they were going to give their kids better than then they had for themselves. And you all just made them entitled, lazy little brats. And any child from like 13 to 17
right now should be working. Whether they're babysitting, get raking leaves, washing the car, mowing the grass, I don't give a shit. They should be doing some kind of something that gives them a sense of productivity and, you know, reward for hard work or whatever it may be. But necessarily like just learning work ethic because that has to be taught. And if you're taught like you're going to have a phone, a car insurance, a roof over your head and you're not going to have to pay for it.
You're going to be a little entitled brat. And then when life starts kicking you later, you're going to be feeling like, what the fuck? You don't have any work ethic. Yeah, because, and I mean like because having work ethic is in so many different things. It's you having consistency, it's you showing up. It's you, regardless of what obstacles are coming, figuring out solutions to be able to make sure that you're at work.
It's you earning something. When you're receiving something and that goes outside of like monetary value, that is responsibility and that's showing up for yourself. That's having consideration for other people, that's learning time management. Like there's so many different life skills that happen when you have good work ethic. And so I think that's why I like people who have great work ethic. They don't necessarily align themselves with people that don't because it shows your
character and things. And I feel like you can tell how somebody operates in life based on how they show up for the things that are funding their life. Yeah, and like back in the day, people's parents and people's like, grandparents would teach them certain things.
But I feel like in the last like 30 to 40 years, like the influx of drugs and alcohol in our collective space has really drawn apart the family, like the father's in jail or the mother's on drugs or something like one parent household or, or grandparents raising their grandchildren or whatever it may be. And there's like this disconnect of like hanging out with your dad in the garage and learning how to change oil and like work on your car or going to work on
your grandpa's farm in the summertime because no one in your family has a farm anymore. Like, you know what I mean? Like or just like the way things have changed because that is where people learned work ethic and responsibility and strength and courage and things like that.
So I think there's a disconnect because this collective space in just two generations has removed things like making your own clothes, growing your own food and like the stay at home mom completely has been removed in the last two generations, meaning like our parents than their parents, because the parents before that, like our great grandparents and beyond farms, hand making things, repairing things, cleaning your shoes rather than throwing them out, you know, fixing whatever
is broke rather than replacing it. Now we're in the replacement generation where whether it's a people, person, place, thing, whatever, replace it. And I'll be honest, I'm guilty of that too. I'm so guilty of that, especially whenever it's a temporary situation or temporary thing. I'm very much like, boom, OK, bye, replaced with something better. But. No. Can I tell you one little piece that's in your reading that I don't know if you got to yet?
I didn't because I only read the beginning. Can I tell you real quick, because I just remember this piece, it's not, it's not really shouting out your business. It's just kind of saying what you just said. But spirit was like, I don't know if it's like June, July, that like you're going to need to be getting rid of clutter, like energy's going to be stagnantly sticking to it and you need to like get rid of things.
And then a right afterwards it was, but don't worry, you're going to end up spending that money to just get new things anyways. It'll just be new energy in your space. And so I just thought it was fucking funny while you were saying like getting rid of things, but then like, I'm gonna be buying some stuff.
I'll never be attached to a material thing because what I've learned with the law of giving and receiving is the more that I've just been not attached, not worked up, not overly focused on things like abundance or resources or whatever, the more that they've just showed up. Like 9 times out of 10, it's more like, hey, I got a free ticket for you, I want to invite you, I want you here, I want you to come rather than me having to overextend my energy to do anything, you know what I mean?
So it's like the more that you have that surrender space where you're not like, this is my favorite jacket and I'm going to wear it until I die. You know, being more open of like, there are better jackets out there. Like this one's getting worn out and I might need a new one rather than I will wear this forever. It's my favorite. I really feel like the segue, that conversation, there's so much to be said, but replacing things is the move, baby. Let it go, let it go.
OK. Now I want to hear some of the things that were your trend setting, your trend setting moves when you were a child. OK, so when I was younger, my mom let me just do things I wasn't supposed to do. Like we would go to smoke shops and she would let me like pick out, you know, like the hippie kind of like banner type stuff or like the little Bob Marley ashtrays for no reason. Like why are you buying me an ashtray? So I would always end up with like things that were for adults
in a way. And I feel like that was super like kind of trend setting for people because they like had access to different stuff at my house. Like my mom in a way, let me be a teenager as soon as I turn 12 years old. Like the moment I was 12, she was just like, you might as well be grown as fuck. But one of the coolest things that mom did is when I was 11, I got my belly button pierced. And I will say there was no other 11 year old who had their belly button Pierce.
And other people who are like 14 and 15 where I lived didn't have it and really wanted it. And I was like, probably the staple in their life or their case to their parents. But note to self, I don't like it. It kind of deformed my belly button now because now, like, you know, it grew with it in there. And then I took it out when I was adult. And so there's just a hole there that's like, not cute.
I love that your transcending moments are because you didn't have like parental boundaries and guidance and you were just like, I got to do whatever I wanted to. So I was studying trends because I was an adult before I was supposed to be. Facts. These are real. These are real things. I have like actual like child things and you're over here like I was snorting cocaine off a strippers ass when I was 13. It was trend setting I. Had those little door beads. Yeah. Go on, pop off.
Oh my God. Well mine are not going to equate to what you're going through or went through. I used to wear my earrings with the posts out and like the actual earring part that was supposed to face front turned around and I thought that was the coolest shit. I was like, you guys are going to be wearing the pokey part of your earrings out the front of your ears soon too.
I'd be like come on now. And then when Avril Lavigne was like the shit, she used to wear leggings underneath her skirts, but I wanted to go one step further, so I used to wear denim jeans with a denim skirt over the top. And that was the fucking look. Let me tell you. You couldn't tell me shit. I got in a couple fights on the playground about it and you couldn't tell me a single thing. I had this phase. This is not trend setting. This is just an embarrassing fact.
I had this phase in 4th grade. Was it 4th? Either 4th or 5th grade where I told, I told everybody that Hilary Duff was my cousin. And I had everybody believing it. And so one day these kids called my house. I was like, I bet call my house and Hilary Duff will get on the phone. She's visiting right now. And they were like, OK, so they called my house. My mom answered and they were like, hi, is Hilary there? And my mom goes, no, but Diana's here. And they were like, is Hillary
going to be there soon? And she's like, yeah, probably she's somewhere and hands me the phone. That was the most legit fucking thing my mom ever did. She fucking they, she didn't know what it was about. She just, she saw the eye contact and she was like, oh, we're related to a select. Got it, got it. Yeah, she'll be here soon anytime. That was my, that was my fucking status thing.
OK so I was like a good kid slash bad kid at the same time and like some people's parents wouldn't let their kid hang out with me so people would sneak to hang out with me and that's kind of fucked up because I turned out way better than all these
bitches. Like and I'm not being a hater but everyone I ever grew up with and their mom didn't want them to hang out with me. They should have because they would have learned some St. skills that would have helped them later in life, but instead now they're working some factory in the bum fucked up Kentucky, and that's great. I love them. Shout out.
No, no shade. I'm just saying like some people never get out of their comfort zone, like their parents are like, Oh no, stay over here because it's it's different than what they're doing, but it's still shitty or it's still not good. It's kind of like trading one addiction for another addiction or something. And I will say I was a bad. I was in an environment that would have made me bad, but I could have been worse. I could have been worse. I'll say that I wasn't that bad.
I got out of school and I made good grades and I did the right thing. I didn't start really getting into shit I shouldn't have been into until I was in high school. And that's when I was like, I would say the end of middle school, beginning of high school, because that's when I was like, oh, you got an older brother. What's good? I will sneak out. I will be at your home. I will hide in the closet. I will do whatever it is that you need me to do.
Let's hang out. Oh Lord, You know, by then I was just really smoking marijuana and chilling. Like by all the time high school rolled around, I had already gotten a lot of the little experimental partying and stuff out of my like, sneaking out and just whatever out of my face. Like, I mean, yes, I wanted a later curfew. I wanted my dad to being above board with me doing should I had been doing since I was 14 and it just didn't make any sense of like why he'd still been trying to make me.
When I'm close to 18 years, I'll act like a child. It's the fact that people think that you're the one that's like the goody 2 shoes and the like, whatever. And then we get on this podcast and I was like, no, I was a good kid. Like I wasn't corrupt till high school. And you're like, by high school, I've lived 42 lives and I was paying my own rent. I had a mortgage and I had already gone through a an addiction to hard substances and gone through rehab four times.
You know, no, I got a good story for y'all like this is this is OK. So I in high school blended like with all the crowds except like the Super, super preppy stuck up kids, but they would still like invite us to their parties and we would still go. So I hung out with like a little bit of everyone, the weirdos, like everyone.
And I would be that person that would just like bring people together, like the gangsters and the emo kids and these kids like everybody would come together because of me. And we would have parties and stuff. So one time I had a party at the place that my mom and me and my stepdad lived for about 12 years. And at the time our house was in foreclosure. So we still had like access to the property, but like no one
lived in there. There was like no power, no water, like we hadn't lived there in. Eight months. So I took all my friends from high school to this place, which is about like 40 minutes away from where we lived. And so it's like in the country and we went there and we threw a party and my abandoned empty house. And of course, like it's an abandoned house like and people are in there now. They called the cops. The cops came.
So when they came, I was 15, but there were people that were like 17/18/19 and there was someone all the way up to the age of 21, baby 21. So they flipped out, they came unglued, people went to jail. We all had to walk over to City Hall to the police station. You have to walk to the police. Station, we were one block away from it. It's a very small town. They only have like 2 cop cars so and we had to walk over there. Country bumpkin fucking raid I've ever heard of.
It really was. And so my mom, they were like trying to get a hold of my mom's, but they couldn't. And I'm telling you, like some of the kids that their parents came and got them while I was still there were flipping out like I have never. And I know it's really because their parents had to drive like 40 minutes out in the middle of nowhere to retrieve their children. But then some of the people just went to jail. And like one of the guys, he had to, he had to like get a lawyer
and stuff. Like he, the one who is 21, because there was so much alcohol present. They were going to try to make him take the fall for all of it and say that he had bought it all. And he was like, absolutely not. So that guy who I didn't very know very well because keeping in mind he's 21, I'm 15. He was just like an extended friend of people who were there. He despise me for years and years and years.
And then when I got old enough where he thought he could like respectfully asked me out, he literally tried to like hold that against me and was like you owe me a date because this happened XYZ. And I was like, you've really been waiting to say that to me for like 10 years. That's fucking weird bro. That's so weird. That's a little story. Predator. I was 15 when that happened. That's a crazy story. Nope. I never. I never threw parties that I wasn't supposed to throw.
I went places I wasn't supposed to go. I sound like Doctor Seuss. There was never a party that I didn't throw, but there was never a party that I didn't go. Facts. That's literal fact. So I just like to party because my mom and all her friends were always partying. But now I'd literally it's like a fever dream. That version of me is like a fever dream. I think about certain things
that are like fever dreams. We were, I was looking at pictures that we have in the house the other day and I was looking at pictures of us in this kitchen that we lived in, like, or this house that we lived in like years ago. Like I don't even remember. It was like the first house that we had with our kids and I don't remember really any experiences there. Like I remember, I remember the picture in the kitchen. I don't remember ever cooking a
single meal in that kitchen. I remember going to sleep a couple times and checking on my kids and I remember sitting in my living room. But that's that's the only memories that I have. It feels like I was there for like 4 or five days and then was gone and I'm like I was on a whole last year list lease. Yeah, You know, I haven't lived a lot of places on my own, but I did have a few like rental places that I rented and they were always a shit show.
And I feel like the couple times I tried to have roommates, it was a hot mess. It was the worst concept I ever experienced and do not recommend. And also I think leases, especially for like apartments where you have to pay deposits and do all these things, I think that they should be longer. Like who wants to move after a year and you raise my rent if I stay, you know, like some of that stuff is such a scam because I just don't understand.
Like every time you move somewhere for a year, you literally get yourself unpacked around six months and then you got to move in three months. By the time you feel settled, you've got to move in three months or whatever. So I don't know. I just think I hate how that is set up. But now I completely get that I have a lot of areas of my life that are foggy. I think they should have people that are, I think it has to do with the trauma, by the way, the fogginess.
I think it has to do with like, like for me, I was postpartum at the time and like we had, I had so much stuff going on emotionally. And so I think that's my fogginess. I think that they should have rent prices like grandfathered in. I think that if you get a place, that should be the price that you're having for that place is how I feel about it. If it's like a property management company or something like that, I just think it should be a grandfathered in
thing. I think that should be the rent that you have to pay. And I think that it's really like, I know of places where when your lease is up, you have to reapply in order to stay in that place. And that's just fucked. That's such a scam I feel like. I feel like you should have like up to three-year lease options where the rent doesn't change for three years. I think that it should be evaluated because taxes like, you know, one year they went up 25% for the city of Louisville
in one year. So you know, that's a quarter of what your property is worth is now, you know additional. So definitely evaluate it, but at the same time, there's so much stuff that's out here, like just being overly priced and driving up a market that is like not regulated. So our state is introducing this new system that all property management companies and all landlords have to use. And it's going to regulate the price.
It's going to regulate the system where they can't just say, I want $4000 a month for this. And so someone else in the area looks up rent prices in this area and sees that and thanks. Well, I can get 3800, you know, they're getting 4. I'm going to make mine a little, you know what I mean? And then really the rent is more like 1800. But some somebody, you know, my friend told me this. When people don't want to rent things and they don't want to sell things, they double or
triple the price. And then if you buy it and you want to be stupid, it's on you and they don't care. So a lot of times that's what they'll do. Like someone will get a peddlers mall or like a little antique booth rental and they'll put a bunch of shit in there that's just like triple the price of what it's actually worth or could be sold for. And that's what my friend said.
He said they don't want to store it, they don't want to look at it. But if you want to pay triple, they're willing to sell it. But if not it will set there. Speaking of charging triple for things. So we had a garden, a garden. We had a goddess festival here like a couple of months ago. And I think I told you before, like I wasn't a big fan of the Goddess festival. We had gone the first time. I just, I just didn't really
like the vibe. But then we went this year and people were selling shit that they clearly got off of like Timo and Wish and they're just have a booth and they're selling it fake crystals, just like just random shit that you're like, I, I guess for me, I'm thinking if you're having a goddess festival, like you're having like a spiritual thing, right? So there are some vendors that are like, you know, witchy vendors or apothecaries or things like that.
And that makes total sense. And then you've just got people who are just fucking there with, you know, like some big old dude with his belly outlets. Like you want to buy my rocks that I got online? Like, not particularly. Well, I've noticed like there's this thing called the Oddities and Curiosities Festival Expo that goes to all the exposition centers across the United States. So it came to Louisville last year for the first time, and then it was here again this year.
And there's a lot of like, like witchy vendors, you know, like taxidermy art, really cool paintings, things made out of spider webs, you know, that kind of stuff. And then there are booths like that that are just selling random ass stuff that has nothing to do with this. But it's the weirdest thing because a lot of people, they do that full time, like they live in a camper and like pull and go to all these festivals and all these things. So some of them like follow the train.
So like, if there isn't, if it's not in season for the big Expo flea market that goes around the United States, that's basically like what you're talking about. Then they find little XYZ's that they can hit for a couple weekends or hit a trail with or oh, it's a, it's a seasonal, just a one weekend thing. And they pull up on those like food trucks or whoever. Like, you know, there's a lot of ways that these people kind of get on like the circus train with these oddities and
curiosity. Or we have this big flea market that comes around like every year, you know, and it sets up at our Expo center. It's just massive. And it's just people who travel with this. They some of them have antiques, some of them have crafts, some of them have junk tools, C DS, you know, like the list goes on. It's just a bunch of stuff. So I completely get it. But these people reselling the Timu and wish stuff on Etsy has ruined Etsy. Have you ever shopped on there?
Yeah, now I'm wary about shopping on Etsy and I tell people all the time when they're asking me for like podcast advice and shit like that and like, oh, I want to have merch with it. I'll do an Etsy. I'm like absolutely do not because people can't tell now what's real, what's fake on Etsy.
It's so over saturated and literally you pay so much for the Etsy fees that you have it. It literally makes the most sense for you to pay the $39.00 or a month or whatever it is for you to have a custom built website for yourself and people can only get your items there and you marketing yourself because you have to market for people to go to your Etsy anyways. Etsy's bullshit now.
Etsy used to be like my go to back in like 2012, 2014, I was constantly on Etsy getting custom things and then even like probably like five years ago I was still using it. But then it's went all the way downhill with these fake drop shippers that are drop shipping like through like a Sheen or Etsy like they're literally taking your money and profiting and then going and placing that order and shipping it directly
to you from T MU or wherever. So that something that people were saying is like they were stealing original ideas, selling it as original, but it's a replica from Timu. And that was happening a lot with the Halloween stuff. And also people selling the viral items. Like I know there's this girl that makes the 800 and $1200 sweatpants that I've sent you before that went viral on TikTok. And she constantly has people on Etsy and other platforms advertising her product.
They've even went as far as setting up their own Shopify's, their own websites, their own things, saying there's 20 in stock of a one of one item. So a lot of creators who don't even use Etsy are battling that. But no, Etsy charges you like a list fee. Whether you sell that item or not, they're already charging you and you got to pay taxes. And the crazy thing about it is they're not even shipping it for you. You're still doing all of that
back end work, too. You're making the item, shipping the item, marketing the item and paying them for absolutely nothing and giving taxes on it too. So yeah, it's a weird thing. And you got to do sales tax when you sell items, which is why, you know, you got to be careful when you sell items because if you're not collecting sales tax, you will have to like, pay that back.
So Etsy is just not user friendly for people who are starting out because if someone wants to buy something from you, you should be able to send them the link and you know, get it popping get. It popping yeah, I know I'm not a fan. I do like supporting people's like handcrafted things and small businesses though. And so I think that's really important.
So I try to step in and do that with like my newsletter and like my shop of the month and stuff because I think it's so important for us to be supporting the people who really are like small businesses and doing their stuff. Like that girl, yeah, she's charging $800.00, but the quality looks fucking fire. It looks like it's going to last. The print is incredible.
The ink is amazing. Like if you have the $800 to spend on a pair of sweatpants, like those would be the sweatpants to get because of the fucking quality and the niche that it is. Like that makes sense to me. But there are also a lot of like really small businesses that struggle and aren't able to do things. And I I think that there's a big like pride thing that people
have about getting help. And I think that that's an important part of business for people to understand is that it there's not a pride thing involved in you getting help and bringing people in who are good at things that you might need help on. So you know if you need help with. Branding. You need to figure out how to even build your business and how to even like do videos and stuff. You hiring somebody as a brand consultant for like just helping
you with that. You're spending maybe a couple $100 depending on the person. You don't have to get some huge corporation, but you know, we've hired on help because the production side of things, in addition to the other parts of the podcast and doing all of our own, like, you know, marketing and getting people listening to the podcast and ourselves and stuff. That's a big thing.
So we outsourced and got production and we easily could be like, no, like we want to be an all female podcast that doesn't hire any men to do anything. No, John's fucking good at production. And you know, we've taken it, you know, and, and we had to outsource help. And I don't think there are enough people who talk about business and give business advice. That doesn't sound corporatey. And that isn't like I've done this, so you should do this.
Yes. And what is happening is people take a workshop that they paid and we talked about this before 5/10/15 grand for and whoever that was convinced them to really bombard you with MLM tactics or flip selling or spin selling or whatever you want to call it tactics. And the crazy thing is, is what they teach them is you only need to get a few clients. You only need to get a few clients because the bill is so big.
And I get that. And I am all for businesses who are able to charge $800.00 or $1200 or whatever it is. Like you know, me and Jim and I know a lot of witches out there and a lot of psychics out there who are charging thousands of dollars for an hour of their time. And not to say that I would ever do that, but you know, it is out there. It is out there. So people are willing to pay anything that you believe
they're willing to pay. But are you able to make that person say, that was the best $1000 I ever fucking spent in my life? Or is that person going to have buyer's remorse? Or is that person going to go back and say, actually, I could have spent that money on something different? That person sold me a dream that I don't have the confidence to execute, or I don't have the strength and the curiosity to explore new concepts and learn things I've never learned before.
That's the thing. People want to get paid and stay in their comfort zone, or they want to do it the way they've always done it, or they want to do it the way someone else has done it, and that's not going to work. You can work with someone to get inspired from their concepts and ideas, but ultimately if you don't figure out a way to put that in action in your daily life, you're going to fail.
Absolutely all of that I saw. I was watching a show last night and one of the ladies was talking about, she's talking to somebody who's in training for, like, being a spiritual mentor. And she's like, OK, So you know, you have the responsibility of not going now into the streets and opening up everybody's wounds and then not helping teach them how to heal them and walking them through the different steps that needed to
be walked through and whatever. And I just thought that was really beautiful message from her. Yeah, and I think what's even more beautiful is just not even worrying about the people who don't want to change and just growing and elevating and naturally magnetizing towards the people, places and things that actually serve you. The people, places and things that encourage you and inspire
you. And I love being around people who are more successful than me, who are just more badass than me, that have more things going than I do because it shows me that there is a way to balance it all. There is a way to bring it all in. There is a way to be grateful and share with others. You know, there's so many people that do things for me all the time that I could never repay them for.
But it's really cool that they're like, yeah, this person adds value to this experience or it adds value to my life. So I want them there. And that's the type of people you want to be working with and you want to be seeing in in creating that that vision with, because you can't have the pessimistic ass people are like, yeah, that's going to cost a lot. Who's going to do that? How are you going to do that? How? Who's going to listen? Who's going to buy it?
Who's going to support it? That's the shit you don't need. And you should remove yourself immediately from people whose first initial thing is to question the thing that you're saying. If if you have close people to you and the first thing isn't fuck yeah, that's what you're going to do before going. OK. What are the logistics about it? What's your audience for that? How have you thought about having a budget and a business plan? Like how how far along on this
idea are you? Is there something that I can help with? Like I'm great at figuring out budgets and putting something, you know what I mean? Like there's I and I think that that's that's an important thing to say because people don't have to fucking not question you about anything or, or not. Yeah, not question about things.
But there's a way for people to be invested and question what you're doing in a form of helping you and seeing how it is that they can help you navigate that or maybe showing you something you may not have seen while fully believing that fuck yeah, you're going to accomplish that. How do I help you do that? There's a difference in the. Exactly. And it's like people who are going to keep it real with you and say, yeah, I'll support you in any way that I can. But there is some work.
Like, you might not want to quit your job yet because you don't have an audience where you might not want to run off to Barbados and do that yet. Or, you know what I mean? Like, at least someone who can speak out, like, encouragement and support, even if it doesn't make sense to them, but also pull you back down to earth and say, yeah, but don't like, put all your eggs into this basket yet. Like, yeah, that sounds really cool.
If you dedicate your time, I know you can do it because you've done shit like that before. I know you have the drive to get that done or you know what I mean? Like someone who's going to say encouraging things, but also keep you supported and grounded because a bad friend's going to be like, you should quit your job, you know, like they're going to simultaneously encourage you to do things that aren't going to serve you. So it's like, for one, read the room, who are we getting advice
from? For two, do I want to be like that person? Do they live the life of luxury or happiness or joy that I want to live? And then thirdly, does this resonate with me or is this to impress other people? That's the one thing you always got to ask yourself because a lot of people want to be famous. They want to sing, they want a podcast, they want a Ferrari, they want to do all these things. But that's for the gram. That was only for the gram that
wasn't for them. So then whenever the the lights go off and they're sitting in the darkness, right, they're still unhappy. Yeah, because you're doing something that you think is going to, like, illuminate the path for other people to see you rather than for it to, like,
have a gratification for you. And I think that the things that you're saying too are huge when it comes to like being a spiritual mentor too, like not being a yes man and being able to lovingly point things out, but being like, hey, you know how we're working on projection and these certain things. This is how you're showing up in our things. Or this is, you know, how you're viewing other people in the community space or interacting or you know, whatever.
Because you are able to be that like, I'm here with love for you. But these are the things. Are you paying attention to them? Do you notice them? Like they're noticeable on the outside? Do you need help with this? Is this something you recognize? And I think that's where you and I too are like the spiritual mentorship is really important to us. And we recognize that sure, it's so much energy, but people don't have thousands of dollars to go and spend a month and these crazy things.
And so we have like priced ourselves accordingly and we're always having conversation about like, you know, is this like, does this make sense if we're wanting to add on a service or change something, like does this pricing make sense to you? Like is, you know, and we do that with our Patreon tiers and being like something about offering this, like, what do you
think? And I think that's to a reason why our dynamic works so nicely is because we can have like, not just like, ha ha, like Polly Pocket conversations together on the podcast, but we talk about these like real deep, like business maneuvers and how we want to show up for community and having that balance and having these conversations with each other where we have to be really real and, and direct with
each other. And you have to be like, we need to record this or we're going to lose ads, get your, you know what I mean? Like get on the microphone and let's do it. And, you know, just yeah. I think once again, like we've built a bond and a friendship and when you have people around you that see you, they hold space for you naturally. There's no forcing it. There's no like, I wish you were there for me. I wish you saw that I was struggling or I wish you seen
that I needed your help. But you know, a real friend is going to be observant. They're going to be able to notice things that have changed. But also a real friend is not going to take that shit personally. Like, yes, her going through things or me going through things will affect one another naturally, but instead of it making it about our business or our podcast, it's never been about that. It's like, no, take care of yourself. Oh no, I'm sorry that you're
dealing with that. That sounds crazy or that sounds terrible rather than, wow, we're going to lose our fucking ads because of this. You know, like there's a tone for things. Like I do want to stay consistent. And sometimes there is that balance where I'm very grounded and in Geminis very much like forward thinking constantly, like in the future thinking. And so it's nice to have like, that equal balance where it's like, yes, those are really great ideas.
I believe that this train of consistency and persistence is actually the best way because then the results speak for themselves or they speak volumes. And that's for everyone. Like, this is like an application of how you balance the future, the present and the past, right? Like you have to be OK with there being loose ends or they're being, you know, a little bit to work on at all times.
You have to be OK with that. I just think that that thing that we talked about that you're referencing, that you're like,
we just got to have consistency. I just think that the things that we speak out on this podcast end up going into that brain and subconsciously and it ends up happening and I'm manifesting that we don't even that we just put in that consistency and we don't even have to say anything because the universe is like, I'm going to plop this idea about this podcast into this brain over here. And that that really is where I'm I'm putting my energy on channeling my thought into that brain.
Yes. And honestly, I think at the end of the day, like volume is putting in the work. Like people are like, I want to be a content creator. I need to boost my stats for the week. I need this much interaction. Just make good content. Just make good content. Like you've learned that quick, like quick little click bait content generates views and comments, but just put out good shit because in six months or a year, it's still going to be hitting.
If it if it made sense and it was hitting now, it doesn't matter who sees it right now because it's going to be there forever. So I really feel like people don't realize how often someone will do something completely irrelevant to what they've been doing. And then someone goes back and looks at their whole catalog, whether it's music, movies, art, you know, whatever podcasts and episodes, you know, all of a sudden everybody wants to hear
what you have to say. But no one was listening five years ago, but you were in the game. You didn't see that you needed that recognition now. You knew that putting in the work when you had that passion or you had that chaos or that tremendous stuff going on that you needed to channel, right? Like all of those situations are meant to prepare you for something greater. Like what you do now actually does matter a lot to your future self because one day it's going to be your legacy.
Fact Do you want to hear a human design card? Yeah. I pulled card 46 and it was the card of illumination. The sign is Virgo and Libra. Don't worry about being a Libra. No, we're Taurus. The gift is the light and the shadow is seriousness. The gift of delight presents itself to you. Once you've moved into acceptance of all that you are, you realize the depth and splendor of life and the
spectrum of experience. The shackles of the past no longer restrain you and the future does not loom over you when you follow your inner guidance system, whether that be your intuition, gut or otherwise. It's as though you've uncoded the secret to luck and good fortune. Suddenly you happen to be in the right place at the right time. Your energy lightens and you are no longer strapped solely to the limiting density of matter.
You remember your multi dimensional nature and the freedom that comes from each new dawn. Life regains its fluidity and opportunities abound. The shadow creeps up when you take life too seriously. You hold on to life with an unbreakable rigidity as an attempt to control it, though this measure is counterproductive because life will truly flow if you trust in synchronosity and lean into purpose.
You are your purpose. When you unravel all that is not you and instead honor your inner truth, your purpose moves through you. Seriousness is a dark cloud that prevents you from enjoying the lush delights of this lifetime. It focuses too greatly on the past or the future.
When repressing this energy. It rises to the surface as frigidity and both expression, expression, and in your body, all sensuality is lost and your relationship to your sacred vest will becomes obfuscated in a reactive state. You may appear frivolous, as if nothing could touch you. Outwardly, you come across as carefree and easygoing, but it's only a mask to hide how seriously you take life. Your themes are presence, synchronosity, flow, and luck. Beautiful. I love it.
You know, what I really like is whenever you just believe you deserve it, the universe gives you exactly what you need. And when you trust that things are gonna work out, they just magically do. And what's really cool about it is like when you actually meet your higher self, where your higher self is asking you to, you'll find the whole damn time, it was your routine, your habits, your sleep, your environment, your relationships that was blocking you.
It wasn't your boss, it wasn't opportunity, it wasn't the world, the government, anyone outside of you. It was those things. And when that happens, we'll be here to, you know, hold your hand and and tell you it's OK. Because when we realize it's us, we are being our own worst enemy. That's when you will change. It's not when your mom wants you to, when your boyfriend wants you to and your sister or your brother. It's when you realize that you're holding yourself back.
And it's such a beautiful and blissful moment. I love watching people get sober or leave something toxic in their life and realize, wow, I could have done this before, but now I am actually ready for it. Like now I'm not being forced. People aren't telling me how dumb I am, how I don't love myself, how I need to leave or whatever. I'm realizing that for myself. And that's the type of awakening that you can't buy. You can't make it up, you can't record it, you can't quantify it.
You've just got to go live it somewhere out there. Absolutely Amen to all of that. I feel like there's so much that we have going on in our own personal lives that really hit so many things that we talk about and and what's funny is that we can these can hit for other people that don't even know the things that we're going through on the back end.
And I think that it'll be really cool when we start to open up more about just like our private things, because you and I are really private people when it when it comes down to like what we have going on in the back end of life. Like we may talk about a lot of stuff, but we are so private. And I feel like one day we're going to just start like sharing these experiences that happened on the back end.
And so many things that we've said throughout the podcast, people are going to be like, oh, so that's why like those things were said or what that meant or these like little bread crumbs were. And I think that it's like having a diary where we're only like where we still have all these blanks in but nobody fucking knows because it just sounds effortless. Amen. I can't wait. Thank you all for just
everything. The last three seasons have really helped us grow as people, as souls, as friends, and most importantly as a community. So we could never repay you all for what you all bring into our life. And just hearing people catch up on old episodes so you know we are forever grateful. I remember we did the sunflower emoji episode, so shout out to the people who know what that means. If you don't know what that means, go back and listen into sunflower emoji.
Yeah, I still get sunflower emojis randomly in my inbox and that makes me smile. I love it. So we will see you all next time in Candyland. Bye guys. Bye you. Said She's so sweet, man. Come on. Like the rapper. Like a lollipop. Lollipop, Lollipop Lollipop Lollipop Lollipop Lollipop Lollipop.