What's up you all? Welcome back to another episode here in Candyland. We have the beautiful Makayla joining us again, and I hope that you all enjoyed our first episode together because you're going to be seeing a lot of her. Makayla welcome. Thanks for having me back, I'm so excited. I know so. I feel so much positive energy. Yeah, we really could like talk for days. So we were like, let's get on
another call and talk some more. And we generated some questions about different spiritual topics because this is a completely new angle coming into the spiritual arena. But what I'm finding out is that me and Michaela have a lot of very similar viewpoints on things, and I love that. But also we don't know a lot about each other and honestly didn't even know that you were into spiritual stuff until you told me that. Oh. I've been here for years, like I've been active.
I've actually followed you forever on TikTok, to be honest. Really like I think for for at least five years now. Yeah. I love your readings. You know, I just got so burned out on the collective stuff. Like, I loved it, but then I was just, like, overloaded. And I used to just take on like every reading because like, you know, when you're starting out, you just like want to get paid for your gifts some way. Like not even that that's what
you want. It's just like in the future, you're like, wow, this is crazy That like, I can do this. And then eventually it's like, OK, I'm too drained to keep doing this for free all the time, you know? And it like, there's this rite of passage and I think everyone should do free readings or like, you know, put their self out there. But I feel like there's an evolution to it. And I just got so overworked for
years on years. It was like, it was like pulling me out of doing the things that I love to do. You know what I mean 'cause then it's sort of like work. Yeah, whenever I started feeling like like work to me, I took a break and like a very long break, yeah. And then I, I would get like, you know, 50 to 100,000 views on those videos, which I don't have them on there anymore. I deleted them because I don't really resonate with me anymore. But now my videos, they don't get as much traction.
But I don't really care because I, you know, I love doing it and I'm doing it from like the heart. So that's all that matters to me. Yeah, You know, I think energy is currency and like anything you do from the heart is important. I want to know, I want to go into some of these questions. So #3 says What are the biggest misconceptions people have about spiritual practitioners? That were delulu and that it's all bull crap and that were crazy.
You know, I don't really get a lot of that anymore. Like I feel like I got off the frequency with the people like this is bad or this is demonic. But I remember for a while I was on that wave on TikTok where like people were constantly like saying some wild off the off Richter. Oh yeah, I still get those comments.
I I had to turn on like comment care mode because of it, because a lot of people would be like, you know, this is the morning because you're crazy, this is insane, you shouldn't be doing this, you're going to hell kind of stuff like that. And that I was pretty much just making it all up and I'm like, OK, cool, if that's what you think, whatever.
You know, I think there's just like a lot of people, if they don't understand something, they're afraid of it and they will like literally shut it down. And I talk about it a lot like non player characters. I really do believe there are souls that are just literally here to keep people like bogged down by the matrix. Like whether it's like, oh, you're doing this type of video and they're like, you suck, you're fat, you're ugly, or you're doing this type of video and they're like, you're
demonic, I hate you. Or you do this video and they're like you're what? Fuck you bitch. You know, it's just like non player characters on every Ave. of like even if you're just trying to like make a cooking video or something like I don't know. Yes, my TikTok is like all over the place. I have like homesteading on there. I have some cooking videos. I have my readings, of course, then I have like my photo shoots, like, you know, the moment versus the photo type thing.
It's, it's really everywhere. And then I, I like to talk about like goddesses and teach people about like, you know, what their different meanings are and like the history of them, because I kind of like to try to bring the, you know, their, them back to life and so people can learn about them. Because I work with a lot of especially like the goddesses of like the underworld, you know, the evil ones that people say that are dark and demonic. I'm here for it you all.
Like listen to all the new energy we're going to bring in the dark and demonic. No, no, no, no, but no, for real. Like I really do like the dark goddesses. I really am interested in like learning more about goddesses in general. You know, a lot of people like, you know, know about like Bridget or Aphrodite or like whoever.
But like, there are a ton of goddesses and I have a lot of like Oracle decks that have brought in a lot of different energies of like goddesses that I didn't even know about. And you know, what really resonates with me is a lot of the Hindu and like Buddhist goddesses. Thank you. I love Shiva.
Yeah. I have like a little Shiva statue, You know, he and he was like the great destroyer and Hinduism and him and Vishnu and Brahma, they sat at the feet of Sati. And so I know a lot about like, you know, that, you know, that spirituality, that culture. I kind of really dived into that. I love that. I love that, you know, I feel like when you learn about things of the past, you start to find more pieces of your soul. And we had touched on past lives
previously. But like I also believe about like being able to like come into a karmic family or a family that's not really like your bloodline family even and like be working through karma because it killed you in a past life and now you're that's your dad or like or whatever. Like I don't know. Like I really do believe that because I did a past life regression in the past and it brought up all kinds of stuff that like had never even came
into my awareness. But like, I was like a man in one past life and then I was like a young girl who was like, like left with her father kind of thing. Like, I don't know, just so many things happening for real. I did a sort of the same thing and I was like, and one of my past lives I was like very high ranked like in Egypt.
And it's really weird because whenever I was younger, my mom said that I would, like, run around like doing like little Egyptian days, stuff like that, you know, things that I shouldn't know, you know, shouldn't be aware of. But clearly I was remembering past lives. I love Egypt. I definitely had a lot of past lives in Egypt. I work with the Egyptian energy all of the time. Like I literally have like this story recently I was on Marketplace which I don't get on
there all the time. But like Long story short I was on marketplace and for some reason I typed in Egyptian, Egyptian decor. I don't know what I Googled or what I searched, but this, it was like a brass like antique, but it was like an ashtray, but it was King Tut and it had like the Crescent moon and like on the altar was Isis. And it was just like, I had to go get it.
And it was so wild because like the person that I got that from just like literally instantly found me on social media and now like likes and supports everything that I do. And I just feel like that. And they're actually like an auctioneer. So like I was like, yeah, fault. Like, you know, like tell me if you get more cool stuff. Like this is the type of stuff I like because they do estate sales or like they have those things.
So, you know, I have cards, so I always give out like podcast cards or give out cards and stickers to everyone. So like it was pretty natural, but it was just so random because like I had to have it. I just felt so-called to it. And then I just instantly went and picked it up. And then now that person like follows me and supports me and it's just like, it's crazy, you know what I mean? Because I just randomly I never get things on marketplace really. Like I once in a blue moon,
we'll get on there. Yeah, me too. And I've noticed lately there's been a lot of like spiritual items on there. And I'm like, wow, I didn't know I had that many people around me that were into this stuff, which is really cool. Which I actually went up to someone in Five Below and because she was wearing a Hakata necklace and I just felt called to do so because it's really rare that you see that, especially in like my hometown, there's like a population of 2000 people.
And I walked up to her and I was like I said, I caught a necklace around your neck. I know some people say hey get day. I like to say a caught day. I don't know why it just rose next with me more, but she did and we became best friends and she's my nail tech now and she does a really good job. Thank you. Thank. You so this season there's no video. You all I know, so sad, but the zoom video is not working for the brand.
But as we're moving through season 5, I am really, really focusing my energy on getting the podcast as an in person type thing where people will travel to, you know, record and have like a studio to record at. So that's like been something I've wanted to do for the brand for a really long time, But now that I'm starting to partner with people who actually live on this side of the United States, we're moving towards in person energy. You know what I mean?
So that, but you know, you're, you're saying Akate, you said Akate. I literally say heckate. Like, I don't know, like I literally throw some random my own thing on everything. Like I've I don't, but so many people like say things different ways and there's so many different pronunciations. I don't know if anyone truly knows. And it can be spelled with AC or AK. And I spell it with AK.
Actually just received a sample on TikTok and it was like a $90.00 necklace wrapped in amethyst and it has her on it. I have to do a review on it and it's so cute but it's spelled with AC but I don't care. I'm going to wear it anyways. And it says like the, you know, protection on it too. So it's really cool. You would really like this witchy box like that I'm subscribed to. So I've been subscribed to it and I've told everyone about it
for years. It's called the Witch's Roots and it's normally like sold out, but it's like like less than $40 a month and they send you the best things you've ever had. Like they send a hand rolled candle every month. They send incense almost every month. This month they sent a book and normally they send jewelry, crystals, ambulance altar, statues. Like they always send artwork like room or pages.
Like they fucking hook it up. Like they always send a random card pool and it's just the best thing ever. You'll have to get it. Like you'll have to check it out because this month is centered around her. And that's crazy because you brought that up before we even like brought you onto the podcast.
So what I love about the podcast you all is when you finally hear this in season 5. We recorded this months ago and when everything crumbled with you know who, the person who shall not be named in season 5, I just felt like the urge to start connecting with people who are like minded. And that's what really brought me and Michaela together is because she models, she's spiritual, she's cute, she's not playing any games, and she was down to record multiple episodes
in one day. Just like I like, just like I've been wanting. That's what we used to do in the beginning, you know what I mean? Like that energy was there and then it just like fizzled out for one person. And then I'm trying to like, because why not like one day, record multiple things, move on. Like then you're good for a week. You know, it just makes sense.
Yes, I'm always down to record. I have a part time job so I don't work a lot of hours like maybe like 26 hours a week so I can record literally anytime before or after work. I get up super early. I don't know why. I'm kind of an early bird. Used to be a night owl but it kind of turned around. I guess I'm getting older. You know, I'm waiting for that. Like I'm wondering if I'm ever
going to get that. I think it's like, I don't know, like I get this sudden burst of energy at night, but it's weird because I'll still get up. Like, I'll still wake up early, but like, I don't know, earlier today, I had such a beautiful surge of energy. And I think it's just like the accumulation of so many things have been closing. And then we have the Jupiter into Cancer transit where there's now going to be in Cancer for about the next year. And Cancer is really big in my chart.
So it just feels like the universe is expanding for me. And like this expansion, sometimes people take like obstacles as like roadblocks are like, oh, I got to throw away the project or I got to start over or whatever. It's like so many people don't know how to like pivot and like 2 step in a different direction, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, really no need to like completely derail your plans just because other people around you are like fizzling
out. And I think that's why like people get so jaded about starting new things with people or making new friends. Like you were talking earlier, your friends trying to go after your partner or other instances of people showing their true colors. Like, it's unfortunate. Especially because we're going to be, you know, reaching our 10 year wedding anniversary this year. So it's a little crazy for someone to even think that they could do that.
It's very messed up, especially because I'm like a very loyal person and I was always there for them.
So I would have never expected it, but they actually had a spouse at the time too, who, you know, DM me because my partner like she she never gets on social media, so she never opened the DM and to begin with, but she's like, I guess went through their the her, you know, now ex spouse's phone and sent me all the screenshots and I was like, wow, OK, thank you for showing me, you know her true colors. That's all I needed to know. Block. Blocked. All right, let's move into a
question. I want to ask you another one because like, I don't know anything. We don't know anything about you. It's all, it's all new. What spiritual tools do you swear by and which ones have been over hyped? I love divination tarot. I like Oracle. I think the Oracle is really fun, but I think it can be a little bit over hyped too. I don't I don't trust like the the dowsing rods. I think they're called dowsing rods or something like that. I've seen those, yeah.
I do use a pendulum though, and I really trust my pendulum because I trust my guides and I know like my different, you know, I'm devoted to different people and I know like they're yes and no responses, but I also have like, you know, my little schedule on board too, So I can use that. But I would rather, you know, call upon one of them and know that I'm commuting with that person and get like the answers that I need and which I've gotten some very clear messages.
I even my mom asked me to use, you know, that because she had cancer and she didn't know what type it was. She had just got diagnosed. And so I used it and I was so scared because I was like, oh, man, I really don't want to do this. And I actually got the correct answer. Yeah, like she went a few days later and it was the right diagnosis, like what I was given, like the answer that I received. And she was just my blind because she was.
She's very religious. Like I grew up, you know, in a Pentecostal house and then she was Christian for a very long time. But my grandmother was like very spiritual, spiritual, very witchy. So I kind of, I guess I, she passed me her torch, you know, because my mom, my mom was more like into like Christianity and
stuff like that. And I don't hate on that at all or, you know, I respect, you know, Christians, but I would rather say that I'm spiritual because I kind of respect like all religions and, you know, everyone's beliefs because it's all different. And I think it's all like kind of compiled together and kind of all the same thing. And we all just call it something different. You know, people who have been writing this whole time have
heard me say the same thing. Like that's exactly my beliefs. Like what you just said like. No way. Yes, like all the things connect and you can't tell me that all these different cultures were not documenting all the similar occurrences without somehow they're being like universal knowledge and universal like spiritual technology. Because Spirit's always telling me that like, I'm here to
reactivate spiritual technology. And like, I really think because we are collectively like in a space of information with the Internet and like, you know, just really carrying around a handheld device that could teach us anything. But like, they keep us so distracted with like the surveillance systems, like social media and whatever video games or distractions were on. And we don't go learn esoteric knowledge or we don't go learn Latin or we don't go learn a new
language or whatever. But yeah, totally believe that like all of these different countries and spaces and religions and timelines and all these things we're documenting all of this stuff we were building these temples and these beautiful megalithic structures. And you can't fucking tell me that there wasn't like some type of technology, that there wasn't giants, that there wasn't other beings besides just humans doing
this. Like y'all, y'all are tripping if you want me to actually believe that. So I truly think history is like a lot like I think mostly history is to control people. And like majority of what we know about what's happening in the past is like not real. So I think that we're not even in the 2000s. I think we're still before we're going. Based off the Gregorian calendar, and that's not even
accurate from what I you know. What I think, you know why I think they did that is because there's portal days and there's very spiritual like aligned things that happen either astrologically or geographically or whatever it is. And I think that they mess up the calendar and instead of like letting it be the 13 months and doing the way it should be, they have like got us off beat, you know what I mean?
Like they've got us off beat with actually like our like circadian rhythm or like the internal rhythm of the Earth, like because you know that there was such a connection to the Earth. I truly believe that's how they're keeping everyone enslaved is like we're moving our connection to it and constantly like building, concreting and all these things like that is like to keep us stuck. Yes, well, my grandmother, like
I said, she was very spiritual. She actually before she passed, she gifted me my own like actual gold little chakra bracelet and my first piece of amethyst, which I'm obsessed with amethyst. I have it around my neck right now with some black Obsidian for protection. This is like, I like to call this my dragon too because I love Dragons. I have an obsession with Dragons, like I have like a dragon spirit. I was literally thinking about Dragons the whole time.
I was talking about history. I wanted to talk about Dragons. Like, I don't know, I kept thinking about Dragons too. I am very deeply connected to Dragons. Me too. Me too. I love Dragons. I love snakes too. I'm obsessed with snakes. I think that they're very healing. And I know a lot of people are scared of them, but I've done so many photo shoots with them and I've never been bitten. And the guy who actually let me shoot with the snakes was like this Reiki healer, and he was
like a, you know, guru. He's very spiritual. And he said his snakes were healing. Is his name 1? Yes. I know him. Yes, he's amazing. He is a sweetheart. And I did a snake shoot and it was so funny. I had I think like 9 snakes on me and they all looked at the camera, every single one of them. For the shot. I was like, you know, naked on the floor. I was, you know, recreating. It was like an implied image, but I was recreating, I can't remember who did like an image
that was similar. And I was trying to do like, you know, recreation of that. And every snake looks at the camera. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, I'm so like spiritually in tune with these snakes right now. I feel like Medusa. I love snakes and honestly, one of my best friends has multiple snakes that I know Corey told you we're about to do a photo shoot with, and it's actually this week. So I love that. I'm so excited because it's definitely a vibe. They're so fun.
I'm not going to lie, I did do a shoot with them at my house and one of them pooped on me and and it's all like a behind the scenes video. I'm like sitting there with the hell and it's like, and I'm like, oh, it just pooped on me. You know it. My friends said they don't poop that often. Like they they build that up. Oh my gosh. So why would it do that to me? How dare it was probably. It probably got nervous too. Yeah, it was my favorite cute little white snake too.
And I was like, Dang Dang bro. I would love to have a snake but I just know I could not feed them. I would love to have one too, but that's the only reason I don't have one. I I love animals too much and I just can't do it. I know it's like the whole of life and like I like really resonate with like big vultures. I see them all the time. Like I just always see like Turkey vultures or just vultures all the time. I don't know why I resonate with them.
I just resonate with like the cycle of life, like the like decaying type energy of like all things will decay one day, like everything will be decaying like and I love like when buildings are like getting overtaken by nature that this really like that like that's might. Be so happy like when the vines are like growing up around the buildings. I'm like like whenever the nature take. Over. Yeah, like when nature's like caving in the roof, I'm just like filling these hobs.
Like I just love watching other earth like reclaim. But like, you know, I don't know. I think that there's so many beautiful life cycles, but like the the snake being at like the root and we're having the year of the snake. It just there's a lot like there's a lot being shifted in people's like home and foundation and like me as well, like having to like recalibrate and let things go. You know, it's just like, it is
like a cycle of rebirth. And you know, on the Wheel of Fortune card, there's like the snake, I'm sorry, the world card, there's the snake on the world and he's like, got it, you know, eating his head or whatever. It's just it's all symbolic with where we're at right now collectively. Yeah, we're, it's like we're shedding, you know, an old skin so we can be reborn again.
Something. No, I just feel like this year I felt like a lot of fresh energy, a lot more positivity and I've embraced my spirituality again and become like more in tune with it. And I, I used to kind of be scared of it at first because of all the hatred I received on the Internet. But now I'm just like whatever. I just like delete the comments that go on about my day. You know, I think a lot of people would hate on you really, just because you're pretty. And I remember seeing your look.
I remember seeing some of your shoots in the past and you were like, at that time, I wasn't really tattooed yet. And I remember seeing like you were really tied, like you had your thighs and different stuff. And you just like look so like just powerful. And then you would like be kind of like oiled up and be wearing like these body suits and these trench coats and all these things. And I'll be like, this is just fire. What's she doing like popping off?
Because I remember like, different people would shoot with you and I would see your stuff and it would just always look so well put together. So. You're like I've been following you for a long time, but like I know we used to be friends on like other platforms, but TikTok I literally have been just ghost on that platform for like 3 years. I got all of those 40 something 1000 followers and millions of likes. I got all of that in like the first two years of TikTok, you
know what I mean? Like I pretty much took my foot off the gas because and I got bored with it and then those messages like weren't resonating and then like my niche was those messages. So it was like I didn't know what to post and you know, it was just all that. Now I just post if I feel like posting. I never do messages. I mean, I might sometimes and I've thought about it, but like I used to literally not even like just do messages where I wasn't even in the car.
Like it was just the cards like they used to be going like viral. Like I said, mainly just yeah of like no one being on there. I used. To just do it like on top of like the like I had like a it was like a shadow deck and they had it came in like a coffin box. And that's how I did the message was on top of that. But now I like show myself like pulling the cards too, because I want people to know it's authentic And I'm not just like, you know, using the Astro app or
something else. And that's fake and it's actually coming from my intuition and that's legit, that I'm a legit reader and I'm not fake and just doing this for
clout and views. Yeah. And that's like, you know, a lot of people don't know how to distinguish intuition from like, anxiety or ego, like, And I think that's something that like when you learn how to like, really be in your power and to like release all of those fears or like fear of being judged or fear, I think really also like the fear of being wrong because so many people are like, afraid
to be wrong. So they just don't use their intuition or like they don't, you know, try to read or try to help others or even help themselves. I think honestly the most important journey with Tarot or Oracle or divination or any of that is truly for yourself. Like before you can help anyone, you got to help yourself. Exactly, yes. I always pull my own cards every single day to try to see like how the day's going.
And then like, sometimes before work, I'll get up and like, pull a reading for people about how, you know, what they can expect this week and you know, how they can, you know, reach their highest potential and this and that. I try to keep it positive, but people love like that Oracle deck. Like I was saying that what's the tea, the gossip? People eat that. It is really fun though. That deck is really fun. If you don't have it, I recommend getting it because it
says some really funny things. Like if one of the cards says caught a case and I'm always like, I'm afraid to say what it means because it says it on the card. So I'm like, I show it and I'm like, not like a court case, another case, you know? You know. That case. I have a deck like that and it's called something TI swear it's not the same one but it literally has like a police card and like all these crazy cards in there and like honestly I haven't used that deck in
forever. Well, I stopped using it for a while because every time I wish I would shuffle and shuffle and shuffle and every time child services would pop out and I'm like, I was like, Oh my gosh. And I just want to scare my collective. But maybe someone really needed to know that, Like someone was calling child services on them, but you know, maybe they were doing something wrong that you
know. People be lying and you know what's crazy is like if the shoe fits, bitch, lace it up and wear it. Yeah, exactly. Look Michaela, you're just the messenger. Like you know that's The thing is like I have a deck and it literally has the STD card and when I would that shit would come out and I would be like y'all better wrap it before you tap it because I don't know what you're doing Like it's icky out here. I get love triangle a lot too and I'm like oh why why did this come out?
I was like someone in my collective has definitely experienced it. They're a third party or someone else has a third party and they don't know about it. Oh my God that is so shitty. No, that used to be some of the messages I would make. I would do like third party confessions, like Oh my God, I would do some. I mean, I would do higher self messages of course, and I would
do all types. But I remember doing 5D confessions, third party confessions, twin flame confessions, like the our confession was that was sealed, that was not going anywhere. I used to do a lot of twin flames and like divine counterpart readings. Yep, divine counterpart too. Yep. You know, And honestly, the fucked up thing about it is I never faked a reading, but when I was doing those readings, I totally was like on this, what I what I perceived to be a twin
flame journey. And so I felt very like a resonant about that. And honestly, I will never deny or or like confirm what that journey was because there's so many things that like my listeners and other people don't know about it. But like, it was such an intense, like, connection that it brought those messages out like even before they were popular, before they were really
everywhere. Like I made two of my own kind of like twin flame soulmate decks because there wasn't any decks out there that like was doing that, you know what I mean? So like, yeah, like way before the spiritual boom of like 2021, I feel like 2021 is when it was just like boom. Everyone was on the way. Then now like you said, there's a lot of scammers out there, a lot of fake ass readers and people who are just using apps
or AI or whatever. But no like when I was doing those twin flame things like I literally will never say I faked a reading at all for views. But I could not believe the ones that would resonate and like get a lot of likes and stuff and the ones that like didn't you know what I mean? It would always be the one like he's coming back, but he wasn't there kind of thing like well, why? Like why are you all? And then they would sit claiming
him back, manifesting him back. I don't like the reduce over like comment claim to receive. I'm like, you're just doing that to boost yourself in the algorithm. I do think that like interacting with the video would make sense if you do want to receive that message. So like, why would you get or comment on it, you know? But also, like, I think that a lot of people, I think a lot of people just get on my nerves on TikTok now. Like they're like, there's not a lot of creators on there.
I feel like that are creating for fun anymore. Like there's so much pressure to create and there's so much pressure to, like, generate that. Like it's not as fun. And you can tell that's what, yeah, that's what burned me out. There's this one creator who's always talking about you're going viral or and then there's another creator on there that's always their readings are always about someone stole your inheritance. And I'm like, why is everyone of your readings about someone
stealing your inheritance? There's no way. But it gets a lot of views. People like, you know, they feed into that and they love like, the drama. I've ever seen one of those in my life I love. I'll have to send it to you, which is so sweet. I think she's so adorable and she means well. But like, every reading is like someone's stealing your inheritance. You're so an inheritance. You're about to receive your inheritance that was stolen from you. And I'm like and I don't have an
inheritance. I feel like TikTok like like there's creators that just literally make videos about every celebrity or every person they can just talking shit like rage bait. Like there's creators that like you go to their page and they made like 20 videos in one day and you can tell. It's just like, I don't know, the UN excited, like the exciting energy that was on
TikTok years ago. It has like left the building like Elvis left building, and when I get on there, it's literally out of my 40s something 1000 followers. It's literally just the people I know interacting. It's literally just the people like that I'm friends with that I interact with their videos interacting like I don't know where the followers I have are because they sure. Me either, they're not interacting at all, which I've gained like 4000 new followers this year alone.
So I'm like, where are you guys at? It's always people who don't follow me who want my videos. Yeah. And you know, I do think that people just have a habit of like, you know, not scrolling the following. Yeah, I'm guilty of doing that. I like the for you page because I'm like well it's for me so it must be true. But see, like I won't give TikTok my credit card. So like they won't leave me alone for the TikTok shop because I won't give them my
card. It's just like, I don't know, I it's not that I wouldn't, it's just that I don't need to be shopping on on TikTok and they really do know exactly how to get you all to buy the ship by saying like normally 90 now 14 when it was never 90 like bitch, it was never 90. It was maybe 30 and now it's 14. But like they just yeah, like reverse. I've.
Noticed that because that there is there's like this little mini deck on there that I've had in my car forever and it keeps going from like $25 and now it was like 888 and now it's back to $25 and I'm like, this is just big. It's it's like a key chain. I'll have that. I had it on my keys, but it's on. It's hanging on a key chain. But yeah, I know TikTok just is like a little too. I'm never going to forget your card number for me. And I'm just kind of like, I
don't need to be on there. I've actually been on a window shopping only like I'll go to a website and I'll just run the cart all the way up and then I just exit the site. That's where I've been lately, just because like, I don't need anything. I'm good. I only order things for photo shoots. I, I, I kind of hoard things like wardrobe for shooting. I'm like, Oh yeah, I could probably shoot in this someday, so let me buy it real quick. I do that, actually, I'll do
that too. I mean, I, I only shoot in something that I've never worn, pretty much. Like I me too, yeah. Like and then I'll save outfits with tags on them for photo shoots and then once I've shot them them I can wear them though. Me too, I do the same exact thing. I'm like Nope, can't touch that until I shoot in it. Same, like, and that's how I like, that's how I also am able to detach from things because I'm like, oh, I've shot in that,
I've wore that. I don't want that anymore and I just get rid of it. But like, if I never shot in it, I feel like I have to hold on to it until I've shot in it or something. Like, yeah, it like, it's so funny. But like, my one of my friends runs like, like a homeless shelter and like, this is so funny. But I'm so open on the podcast,
I do not care. I saw this meme recently and it said, hey, guys, are we ever going to get rid of those Victoria's Secret underwear that we outgrew a long time ago? But they were on sale. But, you know, they also had A tag on them and they're just sitting there.
And it was just saying like all girls have a bunch of underwear they don't wear that are basically new, pretty much new or have A tag on them and they don't fit them but they're like holding on to it thinking that they're going to wear it one day. And so my friend made a post and she was like, homeless people don't care if it's new or not as long as it's clean. If y'all got socks or underwear that you're not wearing or need, like don't need, bag them up and
I'll come get them. And so today it motivated me. I filled up a whole trash bag of underwear and socks. I'm guilty for the Victoria's Secret thing because I used to be an extra small or small and I'm a medium now and I would like hoard like especially during the semi and yourself, which I stayed off the side, which I'm proud because they're doing that right now. I have so many with tags on them and I can't wear them because I'm a medium so.
See, I had stuff that like I would get for a shoe and wear it once and then it never fit again or stuff that would come like I literally had so much underwears of like they'd never been worn or they'd been in there for freaking seven years and I outgrew them. So they just been in there like I don't know. So today I loaded it up and I know that sounds crazy to be like cuz like what do you do with those things besides they end up in a landfill.
But if she was like homeless people don't care. They need socks and underwear as long as they're clean, like whatever. And I was like, you know what? That's awesome of you. Motivation to clean out these old Victoria's secrets. A lot of them were literally smalls and extra smalls. Me I had I had starting at extra small from when I had an eating disorder all the way to like extra large scale. Like there was every layer. I love underwear in there. And literally I don't even wear
underwear that much. Like if I can just not wear underwear, I don't, you know, like, yeah, there's a underwear for someone who might wear underwear three days a week. Like this is too much like. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, after my photo shoot I was like, I just threw my shorts on last night and my T-shirt. It was a three hour drive almost. So I was like, Nah, I already, I have like that armor on and stuff too.
And my shoulders are hurting today because it was like so heavy where the sword was like, you know, laying across me and the armor was super heavy. Some of my arms hurt and I was like, people don't realize like modeling actually, it really isn't easy. And it was like we shot for like 4 or five hours too. But we had some really great images. That's a long time. I'm like a one hour, 2 hour and done. I I shoot for a long time. I don't know. When I go to a shoot, it just happens.
I don't know, They're like, you want to do this, do this. And I'm like, yeah, actually I did. You know, let's keep going. Yeah, I haven't had a long shoot like that in a long time. Honestly, I just like doing like nowadays, especially if it's going to be outside or something. I want to do 1 concept and then like like I'm not trying to change my car. Like I don't know. I've, I think over the years I've just like, I used to just shoot and shoot and shoot and
then now like. Oh, I was used to changing in like an alley in Louisville. I would be like in an alleyway, like, you know, my wife would be like holding a jacket or something around me. And I would be like getting like naked, literally putting on different outfits. And that's the. Same my cover shirt for the industry magazine. I don't smoke cigarettes at all. And we were trying to get like the perfect look for that. And I smoked 2 cigarettes for that shoot.
And I had to sit down and I, you know, I had a lingerie on and heels and that leather jacket. I just sit on the street for like 10 minutes because I had like a head rush and I got sick and dizzy from the nicotine. Girl, I would do the same. Cigarettes are strong. Yes, I didn't, I didn't mean to inhale, but I but I realized like I was like, Oh my gosh, I've been inhaling this whole time. And then I like got up to off and everyone.
I remember when I posted it, it went viral and I, I was like leaning against a trash can and like people made fun of me. So I deleted it. Had like 1,000,000 views of TikTok but they were like why are you leaving? Video. I know old Michaela used to get so embarrassed, but new Michaela does not give crap. Michaela does not need to delete videos. I deleted my Instagram account and I had 16,000 followers because I was embarrassed from my photo shoots.
I don't think that they were good enough. Well, that's bullshit. That's imposter syndrome because you were slaying on thank. You. I was wondering when you follow me, if it was a scammer when you didn't have a lot of followers. I was like, I thought I already followed her. And then I followed you back and I saw that you wasn't a scammer, but I was wondering where you went, you know? I went on a high to say for a while. Yeah, I feel like I didn't see
you for like years. I actually just did my first shoot like in May for the first time in like 3 years. Really. Yeah, I did. Look y'all, we got Michaela out of the shell and she's out here killing it on TikTok. And honestly I remember a lot of your modeling from the past and remember you always having like themes. I think you did like a vampire shoot one time. Yes, I did a vampire in the cemetery with like a hot rod. It was the cover for Gage Magazine. I love that because I'm obsessed
with vampires. Like if I could be a vampire, I would like. That's my dream. It's her dream. OK, no, I I honestly remember that shoot because I remember thinking it was super good. It was like we well executed the whole thing. Yeah, for. Sure, yeah. You know, I think imposter syndrome's wild. Sometimes. I'll go through and I'll archive everything, but I feel like I'm just here to stay. Like I'm not going anywhere, like I'm not going to silence
myself. I think that like whenever powerful people want to stay in their shell, it's because the Matrix is trying to silence them. Yeah, I realize that too. I wish I would have just deactivated my account and not deleted it because I had so many followers and you know, I could have just grown on that. But I only had like 20 something followers not too long ago and I'm up to 200 so I mean that's a plus. Yeah, and honestly, you're not posting like you were on your
last page. And I'm pretty sure like if you were and you like cranked it up, you know you'd be, you'd be able to build it back. Because I've heard of people being able to like delete their either TikTok or their Instagram and start over and actually hit 10K like over the span of like 6 months over like being stuck at like 4 or 5000 on their other page. I know recently I blocked like over 100 people and then I had, you know, fallen outs with with
others. So I've lost a couple 100 followers, but I really don't care because Instagram also has this feature that shows you how many of your followers have deactivated their profile. And that's always in the hundreds. So that means that those people reactivated their profile. It would add their follower back, but right now they've just deactivated.
So like, I don't know, I always try to see the perception of like, you know, they've convinced us that like 20 followers or like 200 followers is not a lot. But if you've got to house, feed, clothe or shelter fucking 200 people or even 20 people, it's a lot of time and money and space, you know, like that. Is very. True, I like looking at 5 likes as if five people were in my house right now I'd be like y'all need to leave like no one invited you. You know what I mean.
A lot of people all of a sudden seems like a lot. Yes, definitely. But our brain especially like as women and we're always being judged and all these things, like our brain is constantly thinking like, oh, I'm not good enough. Oh, wait, I'm not good enough. You know, like they have programmed women.
And that's what this podcast has really been built on, is like breaking free of those fucking programs and breaking free of those limitations because everyone can do what they want and everyone can step into their power and be whoever they want to be. Exactly. Yes. I finally realized that. And that's why I was like, I'm going to shoot again. So I reached out to like the photographer I shot with yesterday. He was like, when I moved to Kentucky, I always wanted to shoot with you.
And I was like, dude, I've always wanted to shoot with you. And neither one of us, you know, just have the courage to reach out to each other. And I finally did it. Whenever I was shooting with Colin, we were talking about like, you know, photographers that were good to collab with. And I noticed that some people that he shot with shot with him, too. And I was like, I think I want to reach out to him because I really love his work. And I did. And he was like, yes, I want to
shoot with you. Well, you know, you really do miss all the shots you don't take. Like if you don't take risk and put yourself out there, you will literally not get anywhere because that's exactly How I Met freaking Bunny. Like I slid into her DM and like, you know, just a lot of different people. Like we've had a lot of cool people on the podcast over the years. And like that literally is just us like sliding in the DM like what's up?
Hey, I think you're amazing. Like when you come onto the podcast, you know, so like it's so much about just like shooting your shot and feeling like confident enough to do that. I've seen more DMS a couple of times. I actually went to one of Jelly Rolls concerts, I think it was at the Mercury Ballroom in Louisville. And I walked in and you know, we were VIP and I did the meet and
greet. So we got to meet him and we were walking in and I was going up to the row because I like to be at the row like right, right front and center. And his security came and grabbed me and my wife and I was like, oh Lord, what did we do? I haven't done anything. I didn't sneak anything in and they smacked like Avip pass and a backstage like thing on our lanyards. And so we were backstage the whole time. And then when the show was over, I actually got to see Jelly
again and I hung out with him. Like, I guess I'm like the I base, I don't know, basement of the venue, there is like a jukebox and stuff. Everyone was talking, but I was like too shy to really speak up. And then I got to tour his tour bus and they invited us to the after party, but my dog was getting spayed the next morning at like 6:00 AM. So I was like, yeah, we got to go, unfortunately. But I wish I would have went. That's crazy.
It's crazy. His like the main security guy was his name was Jerry, which is my dad's. I love Jerry. Jerry he 615 y'all on Insta. He's amazing. He was so kind to us which I'm so glad that he like because the crowd was I felt like it was like anti lesbians behind us. So I I don't know if he like noticed the vibe but I felt so much safer whenever he did that. So I really appreciate him for doing that. And I have a video with him. We took a video like on the bus
and it was so funny. I sent it to actually Dusty on Snapchat because he's like, you know, Dusty. And I was like, yeah, I kind of, you know, model and do some stuff. And he's like, oh, wow, I didn't know that. I was like, where's Bunny? He was like, she didn't come. I was like, man, I want to be Bunny. Like she's goals. That's so crazy. That had to have been a while back if he was at Mercury Ballroom though it. Was a long time ago before he blew up.
Yeah. Yeah. I remember I paid 250 for like, the tickets and the main grades. Yeah, Yeah. And now it's like 350 for like 150, which he deserves it. He really does keep his tickets reasonable though. Like he really does like. It's more of like the resellers who are doing it. Yeah, it's not him. Yeah, I know. Because he had tickets for like $60.00 like. He I was going to go back and then because I knew he was that rough and then I looked and it was all resells and they were
like 350 plus. And I'm like the type who wants to be on the floor. Yeah. Like I don't go to an event unless I'm VIP. You know, that's my kind of style. You know, a few years ago I was manifesting on my vision board like free concerts or VIP, and that year I literally did so much VIP activity. Everywhere I went, I was on VIP list. It was great. That's amazing. Honestly, I feel like showing up in that energy, like you said, like you want it, like you're
showing up in that energy. It really works because last week I went to see Jet the band and they sing that song Are You going to Be My Girl? Which was like they're like, but you would know it's like from the early 2000s. But basically we went to see the band and my cousin is one of those people that like he has to be, if it, if it's a GA event, he has to be on the rail. If it's at a festival, he wants to be on the rail. Like he's not playing and he wants a set list, a fucking guitar pick.
He wants autographs. Like he wants it all. So we're there and it was at Mercury Ballroom, which I love that you said that because that's where it was. And then we were having a great time. And then afterwards he knows someone who works at the venue. So he got a set list and got a pic, but then got me a set list too, which is fire. So that's awesome. So the drummer actually gifted my wife his sticks after the show and she actually drummed like all throughout high school
and stuff. So that meant the world to her. It was actually her birthday gift going to see him because she loves Jelly Roll. Like that's like one of her idols. She's obsessed with him and his music. She said that it like helped her get through a lot. So I surprised her with all that. And I was like, you all couldn't have made this a better experience. Like you. You make me look like a great gift giver right now. That's amazing. Yeah. You like manifested that.
Yeah. Kind of like the experience I had the other day. It was just like super manifesting, like I got to meet the whole band. They autographed everything. Like it was just such a good time. Like everyone was just so nice. And like, honestly, that's the same thing you're talking about when you show up though, and you're just in good energy. People want you around. It's like that like attracts
like that law of attraction. Like when you're just in a good vibe, people are like, come over here. We have, we have vibes too, you know? Yeah, I've noticed that. I'm so excited because on July 22nd, my wife surprised me with a she actually got the last ticket because they only do 10 for the experience. I don't know if you've ever heard of In This Moment, Maria Brink. Yes.
So I get to walk her on stage. So I get to meet the band backstage and get a photo and autograph, and then I guess I get to walk her on stage or something. So I've already ordered my outfit and I've got it already, you know, tags are still on it because it's saved for a special event, of course. I'm so excited. She put on a show at Louder Than Life a few years ago and she fucking rocked it and it was hot that day. And her outfits were so intricate and like wild.
And she had like this white outfit on that like turned into this red outfit that turned into looking like blood. It was nuts so as well. She is gorgeous. I saw her last year too. And I was on the rail because I always do VIP so I can get in early just so I can be in the middle and on the rail. And I like, I was almost in tears because I listen to her music like the whole time after my dad passed away. And it really helped me like
grieve and get through healing. Like I love like metal and just anything hardcore like that. And she's like very witchy. So I feel like when I see her, I'm going to be like mother, so I'm going to pass out. Do you go to festivals? I want to go to Louder than Life because I'm obsessed with sleep token and Bad omens but I've never really been to a festival so I'm kind of scared. You should come because I'm going and it's going to be so much fun.
And honestly this episode will be out like around that time. So yeah, it's just going to be such a good time. Like I'm really loving Louder Than Life mainly because they have so many bands freaking jam packed all day that like it's just so worth it. I want to be on the road for sleep token, but I know it's going to be like everyone's going to be fighting. For that, yes, scary place. I would never do that. That would be so scary. No, I I do not care. I'm gonna wear my my stomping
boots, OK? But like the crowd surfers and all that, just it's too much for me. Like I'll get in there and I'll and I'll even get near the pit. Like I'm not afraid of the pit. I'm more afraid being kicked in the head. Oh, my worst concert experience was Travis Scott Astro World in Nashville. I did not know that he like does like a mosh pit.
And I was right in the center and I'm like super small and like this huge large guy like picked me up and his girlfriend up because my wife was like, please help me. Like I couldn't get out because everyone was like, you know, hitting each other and like my nose was bleeding and my like my mouth was bleeding. My nails were all broken off and I just got them done. And so I had to go to the bathroom and, like, clean up my face because the, like, the mosh
pit was so bad. Like, yeah, I never want to experience that again. But I've noticed like every metal concert I've ever went to, people are like, really sweet. Yeah. Even when they're moshing. I feel like Louder Than Life is so different than other festivals. And I don't know if it's because I'm like biased, but I do feel like it really is like a family because there's like this Facebook group called like
loudmouths or something. And like people will be in there all year long, like counting down the days and stuff. And so there was this kid, he goes by Mohawk Mikey. And I think he's around like 13 years old right now, but Louder Than Life has literally used his face for advertising for like the last five years because he always shows up in like this huge red Mohawk that's like really big and just like red.
And then as he sweats all day, like the red runs all over his face and it looks like blood and like he's just all over the place and he is doing everything. And they call him like the the festival or like he's the the fit. I'm sorry, the kid of the festival. But now like that Jones Soda Company wanted submissions for like a, a thing they were doing to put your face on a bottle and they put his fucking face like the rock image, like Mohawk image, like this soda bottle,
like it's from here. And it's funny because like we have mutual friends on Facebook. So send him a friend request because like every year I see him and every year I'm like, there's the legend or whatever because like he literally is like the festival mascot or something. I don't know. It's crazy. I'm going to have to go now that I know that you're going.
I just didn't want to go. And like, you know, it's always just me and my wife and it's sometimes it feels like it's not as safe when you're not in like a group. Setting you should come I'm going all four days, so any days and I. Was going to do I think Friday and Saturday because sleep, cocaine and bad Owens. Well, that's perfect because I'm already walked in. I'm going every single day and I've taken off for work and I have it like that Monday off so I can recuperate, but I don't
really drink. So like it's, yeah, it's just really being tired and like wore out. It's not that I'm like hungover. It's just like, you know, we go eat before we go there and like go eat something good and stuff like so that way I'm like set and I might have like a snack, but I don't like getting getting in there and like having to eat $28.00 hot dog, you know, like pass. Well I can go like all day without eating. Like I used to get so anxious but now I'm not.
I feel I don't feel any anxiety anymore which I used to a lot but I wouldn't even like when I would go to conventions I couldn't eat at all. But now I I just eat and ate and ate. I've put on like 15 lbs in the last like 3 months. Oh well, I couldn't tell. You cannot. I was 92 lbs and my arms were like super small. My mom was like, your arms like so tiny. I was like, Oh no, Oh no. I was struggling with like eating though. And I finally found like a solution and now I'm just, I eat
a lot. I love to eat. It's like my comfort thing. Yeah, honestly, I like during this winter had put on some some winter pounds, you know, so I've been trying to like get those. Back. Off. It's crazy. Like my hobby in the winter is like staying inside and sleeping and not like going out and doing anything. So like, now I'm trying to get back into like, my good habits now that it's warm outside, you know? You look great. You're flawless. OK. It's such a good episode.
I'm really loving having Michaela as a part of this project. You know, when everything was changing, I really didn't know what direction. I just knew that I wasn't going to leave you all hanging and that, you know, I made a promise to like my audience and this brand to like, see it through, right?
Like I don't know how many times Michaela that we had talked about how most podcasts statistically have like 10 episodes or less, Like most podcasts that are in the the catalog have 10 episodes or less because Co host go South. You know, people realize you're not going to make a bunch of money or, you know, whatever it may be.
And it's just crazy that like this is now on season 5 and like we're back to weekly episodes doing the bonus drops, like back to building it up. And I really, really love that me and you can like network in person. I think that's going to be my favorite thing. You all is like being able to network with someone in person and like be able to create in person because I think that was an element that was always kind of missing, yes.
I cannot wait. Anytime that you want to do that, just let me know and I will be there. Clear my schedule. Energy. All energy. Well, it's been another wonderful episode in Candy Land, so we're going to see you all next time. Bye bye. Welcome to Candyland spicy and sweet. You're in for a tree, your wildest trees. Got gun drops of knowledge and liquors too Plum. Fancy picking for me and you Candyland. Candyland. A mystical play where your shadows will meet your life face to face.
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