Welcome to fucking Dandy land hosted by Rampage and Gemini. What's up everybody? Welcome back to Candyland. We have a guest today. Yes, welcome to Shannon. We are so excited. This episode is really going to Encompass where the spiritual journey takes everyone on a different path, but somehow we all meet back in the middle. So welcome Shannon. Introduce yourself. Hello everyone. I am Shannon.
I'm very happy to be here. And thank you both so much for having me because I really appreciate it and I'm very excited. So, a little bit about my journey so to speak. I know that I think you have a similar background. As I do Gemini that I was raised in a very, very Christian home and that kind of was my background for pretty much my entire life. And then kind of during the pandemic, when stuff shut down and I said, R time to myself and things like that.
I was getting, I've always been like very spiritual just as a child and just, you know, throughout my life. But I guess I just never really was very taboo. You know what I mean? It was very taboo to my parents is very taboo. And my upbringing, my extended family, whatever. So, I just never really was
outspoken about. It was more of like an internal thing and things like that, and things that I was just interested in and drawn to that, I was like, oh, I'm not supposed to like that, you know what I mean? But, during the pandemic, And you know, I had a lot more time to myself. I was like really getting into more of a spiritual practice. I always had tarot cards that I like hid away, but I was more so just like did that like on my own for fun and like, things like that.
But I really started to dive into the Bible because I was just like, oh, like I'm going to like really read my Bible and really like, you know what I mean, beyond my faith because now I have no excuse to not like, you know what I mean? Like, the super diligent about that. And the more and more, I read. Read the more and more, I deconstruction deconstructed because of that.
So it's actually ironic because it was like I was trying to get deeper into my faith of Christianity and it actually like made me deconstruct by doing that. And it's not that I don't believe in any of those things anymore or any of those constructs or anything like that. Like, I think that there is, you know, valuable Vibe like information in the Bible. I think that, you know, The Parables and things like that, you can always take those lessons to heart for sure.
But it was just more of a didn't believe in the patriarchal Jesus that I was raised to believe in and just how the church is, I completely walked away from the church just because I just saw so many flaws and holes in it even growing up but then that was just like kind of like the breaking point for me and I will say that I think I've heard you talk about this before that. You do have a Jesus was the which shirt. So I was wondering if maybe we can talk about me getting one of
those if I will. I'm just going to plug you right here. Because I did hear that. I'm one of your episodes, and I was like, oh, I gotta ask her about that because I do really want one of those shirts if that's possible. I do have. Yeah, that's on my merch line and we can totally talk and I can get something sent out to you. I do have the Jesus was a wet shirt and actually, you said something that I haven't heard anybody out, like, out of
everybody. I've talked to, I haven't heard you all start the same experience with me where you like were like, oh, will let me dive deeper into the Bible when you were trying to You're out your spirituality and that was something that I did for me. Like I downloaded Bible apps and all kinds of stuff because being raised to believe that you just it's always you don't feel a connection to God. Well, that's because you're not understanding his word and
you're doing it incorrectly. And so, when I was trying to find my spirituality, the more that I do then to my gift of mediumship, the more that I thought of all of the things that I was told growing up and And went to find safety like in the Bible and figuring things out that way. And I realized that, no matter how much I was reading of, like, scripture and things it. Did it make me agree with what I
was reading. It just made me feel like, I always felt like I was searching for something that I couldn't find. And so I just wanted to like, give you a moment to like let you know that. I understand how much strength that takes in order to find yourself. Through that because that really is. You have to have such a like motivating mindset and really want to like Elevate yourself
and your spirituality. And and it's hard to find your own way and so like, I commend you on being able to do that especially if you didn't have other people around you, that we're supporting you at that time. Yeah, definitely not definitely not. And like it was a hard. It was even like a morning in a grieving process for me because it's like that's how I grew up. Oh, up. That was what I base my entire life on. Do you know what I mean?
So it's just, like, that's supposed to be the center of your everything. So it was almost like a grieving process for me that it was just like, oh, I had spent so much time, you know, focused on this thing that's no longer real or no longer, you know, what? I thought it was and it's just like it's almost like grieving a relationship so to speak. And it's like but then everything started to click after that. And now my relationship with God or Source or whatever you want to call.
It is so much stronger than it was when I thought I was. He's doing all the right things and you know, walking the walk or so, whatever you want to call it. So it's really interesting how like it's kind of all
transpired. I mean, that's like a very generalized version of my story but like it's just very interesting how much closer I do feel to, you know, a higher power and to heaven on Earth or what, however, you want to look at it. But it's just like, all of the things that I grew up believing, it's not necessarily that they weren't true. I just see them in a different, totally different way. Now that makes it's sense to me and I also feel like Christianity and just religion
in general. It's like it makes God separate from you. It makes you look outside of yourself for for for fulfillment. Which I feel like is the opposite of what we need as people is like no, you need to like, look inside yourself for for fulfillment and like that stuff isn't separate from you. Like, we're all one at the end of the day and like, like you were saying it's like you feel disconnected. Well, that's why you feel disconnected is because that's
what you're taught your whole. Is that all that stuff is outside of you all that stuff is separate from you and that's not true. And I learned that, you know, through different experiences that I've had and it's been, it's been, it's been a rough road but it's been. It's been a, it's been a good experience for Me, overall, like the deconstruction process and just, you know, finding myself every single day, all over again. So, yeah. Thank you.
I have a question. So, how did that create either like a strain or a connection with your Your parents and your family. Like how, what was that energy? Because I feel like when you step out of the box that everybody wants you in because that's what's happened to me, they exiled me like they just exiled my ass. So I'm just wondering, like, that's a great question.
So, I mean, there is always been a level of strain in my family Dynamics. Even before like me, you know, kind of coming into my own it's just always been that way, you can call me the black sheep if you want whatever my You actually sent me this hilarious video the other day it was like, oh the oldest child, is the one who's like Loki healing, all the traveler that nobody is aware of like, yeah.
But like, you know my sister like I am the oldest, I have a sister and a brother, my sisters actually adopted by my sister's like my best friend, we probably see the world, the most, similarly and like my brother. My mom and my dad are very like connected in the way that they view things. The way they do politics whatever they're right up Trump and God's ass like as far as you can be. So it's like and like that's no fun.
That's to everybody. It's just like that's me and my sister differ in that way from them. So she's the only person that I really don't feel exiled from and like me and my parents. We've tried to move through some of that stuff and I feel like now that like, you know, I don't live with them anymore. I'm going to totally different state than my family. It has given us the space that we need to not be so dysfunctional and for them to like see me as my own person and just to accept me.
As an adult because I think it's like hard for parents sometimes to like, realize that like, oh, your kids going to grow up and be their own person and they might not think exactly the way that you think or believe and I feel like that was really difficult for my parents, but like me and my dad, we have a great relationship. Now my mom and I not so much but it's always been like that, it's not because of me finding, you know, spirituality and things like that.
My mom and I have always been on the rocks for many different reasons and like I think my brother had a hard time Time. Like, you know, he has a hard time with things that I say and things that I believe, but he's also a tourist so he's thick headed, so I hope so but like I love, I love my family, despite our differences, it definitely was difficult.
I can remember like certain times when like I was on vacation with my dad's family and he found my tarot cards because it's like, they were just like laying in my room and be keishon and he like blew his lid and was like, you know, just was not happy about it. In front of everybody. And this was before like cry, even was like really doing Taro. Like I said, like I'm more. So like Did It For Fun back in the day it was just like, oh, like I'm just gonna like pull
card and, like, whatever. I wasn't even that serious about it, but the reaction that he had towards it. I just got so emotional and after that, I was like, why don't I get so emotional about something that like, I don't even, you know what I mean? I didn't even practice it that much, but that reaction that I had towards his reaction, kind of told me that like, there was something deeper there that I needed to kind. Of Explorer.
Because now it is like very important to me and very influential in my practice and just, you know, in my life and, you know, whatever. But at the time I didn't know that it was going to be that way, but the reaction that I had towards my dad being very upset about finding those things. I was like, hmm, I should probably explore. Why that, you know, gave me such an emotional reaction, like, why I have like this attachment to this thing.
And it's interesting because like my dad, like loves astrology, like loves looking at the Are so it's like he does have, like, he does have like a little bit of, you know, new a Genus within him. But it's like he's I just feel like once you're on the path of Christianity, it's really, really hard to break away from like I just feel like you just don't see anything else. Like it's just like blinders on and like you can't accept other things like at least in my
family's experience. I should say I shouldn't generalize but that's It's just kind of where it is, but like I am able to be more open at least with my dad about things and I think that moving definitely helps. But at first it was, it wasn't the easiest. But like I said, it wasn't because of that, that my relationship with my family with strained.
We've kind of all had, you know, a difficult Road, you know, in our upbringing and things like that, but that definitely did not help and it definitely added to the dysfunction, but I think we're all on a much better page now, which is great. What do you think upset him so much about the tarot cards? You think that he didn't understand? And then now that you have kind of dived a little bit more into your spirituality and like expressing your authentic self?
Do you think that even though they don't agree with you in a line with that there's more understanding because your family, even if they don't agree with like the things that you say like you were talking about with your brother, they can see an evolution. Ian and you changing as a person and like embracing new parts of yourself and evolving and doing better. So is there a change in the dynamic with that? Yeah, I definitely think that there is a couple of reasons for that.
Like you said, like, just seeing me grow as a person, but it's like, I think that the indoctrination in the church is just so strong that it's like, you're just led to believe that Taro witchcraft like that's evil. It's from the devil, you know what I mean? So I think like that was my dad's. Concern was just like oh my God, my daughter's going to hell like even like with his own father. Like who is my pup?
Obviously like he's not doing the greatest, but he's been trying to get him saved, you know, for as long as I can remember. And that's all he tries to do with this. Dad is get him saved him. So you've got him saved and I'm like, he's like whatever I'm not going to go into that, but I just feel like that's so it's so indoctrinated to people that like anything that's not of God, or what's in the Bible? Or, you know what the church says like. It is from hell is from the
devil. And I think that my dad was just, like, literally concerned for my salvation, and was like, oh, she's going down a dark path. But, I think that now, because he's kind of seen and not that, I even tried to explain it to him because in the moment, I did try to explain to him, but it just wasn't, he wasn't receptive to it. He didn't take it. Well, I think that because he he has seen the path that I've gone on and just like how I've grown as a person.
And I think like and I honestly think that he watches some of my Tick-Tock sometimes because he's, like, he's given hints that he has. So I think that like, the message that I generally try to spread is one of healing and one of self-acceptance and things like that, like whether it's, I'm doing that through tarot or other things. So it's like, he doesn't really have ground stand on. If you were to say that like you know, what I'm doing is evil or what I'm practicing is from the devil.
So I do think that there is a better level of acceptance towards it and like, even In like my mom even though like we don't speak like she actually sent me something in the mail that was there not tarot cards but they're like little affirmation cards and things like that. And I thought that that was like really nice.
So I know that my parents secretly do watch my social media because of things like that, where it's like, I don't talk to them about that stuff and they don't bring it up, but there's like little hints here and there, that it's like they are supportive in their own way even if they can't admit that, they're supportive because it would go against what they believe. If that makes sense, my dad whenever First started talking about spirituality and was
coming into my own. He asked me if I was a part of a cult but you thought that this was like a cult and it was real weird and he has talked a lot of fear into the into the journey, because I'm so like, unwavering on it that he's tried to like, instill that like, Society standard. Like, you can't do that as a real job.
I know Jim and I was family's done the same thing like, well, how could you make that work with This and without knowing, and, you know, all these things that the fear based mentality that keeps people working that 9 to 5 and go into the job, they hate for 40 years and so my dad in the last few years because you mentioned being a tourist. Me and my dad have the same birthday and we're both Christmas.
So you know, we have a lot of astrological similarities in a way that I feel like my dad, he tries to his best. Understand with the limited information like he's not willing to read a book or like tap in any further. It's just like limited information on the sidelines and so I think people have sent him like my YouTube and my videos and things start popping up and that's originally on my dad found out that I got covered in tattoos during the pandemic.
Like I didn't see my whole family for like a year and just got padded and so yeah. So my dad like he he's realizing that this is Making me really happy and I'm helping people but he still thinks it's a cult. Yeah, I get that. I feel like there's always going to be a little bit of an aversion to it but like I feel like your parents always come when I always, I shouldn't say that but I feel like your parents do come around at the end of the day and just
supporting you in their own way. Even if it's not the way that you would like them to support you, and I also think like with a fear-based mentality, it is always coming from a place of, you know, one projection. But it's also coming from a place because they genuinely genuinely do care. It's just in a weird way that They're showing it. It's like we want you to be successful, you don't want, you
know what I mean? Like, it's I don't think it's coming from necessarily a place where it's like, they don't want to support you. I just think it's like this worrisome thing because it's like, that's how they were raised. It's like you have to work for the rest of your life, you grind till you die and it's like, we see things differently and that's confusing to them. They're like, what you can just do whatever you want.
It's like, well, yeah, I can watch me, but I just think that that's like such a cognitive dissonance thing for that generation. Shouldn't specifically because they just, they weren't raised in that mentality. And it was just, I don't like to say narrow-minded, but a little
bit, Yeah, a narrow-minded. So it's just like hard for them to grasp like that you could help people or that you could, you know, make a business out of spirituality or whatever it is that you're trying to do. It's like now everything's kind of accessible and everything's on the table for somebody to do or make, you know, a living off of or whatever it is, which is Is amazing because that wasn't available to them.
So I don't think like, I think that that's why is because it wasn't necessarily available to them so they're like, I don't get it. But yeah, I do think that it is like, it is fear-based, for sure, but it's like their own fears and it's like, coming from a place of. I care about you and I don't want you to fuck your life up. You know what I mean? But it's not necessarily coming from the the greatest place. You know what I mean? I mean, that's my opinion for the most part, I know that.
People's parents are not supportive at all in any shape or form. So it's funny in general, I feel like Do you guys feel like knowing that your parents have those opinions and like that? That's in the back of your mind that that adds fuel for you? For me? I know that my parents don't understand what I'm doing and that they don't understand how I'm going to make it work and whatever. And I'm always the like I'm
going to show you. You think that it's weird and I'm not going to be able to do it and I will not be behind a desk for the rest of my life. So like I'm going to make this happen so that I can prove it to you and It was the biggest motivator for me for like building my stuff up in the beginning was like you don't see how I'm going to make it happen. I don't know how I'm gonna make it happen but God damn it. I will make it happen and I feel like that's so integrated now
into my purpose. Do you guys feel that way? I don't feel like I'm work from a place of love that because I've literally genuinely don't care like I just don't care and being an only child. I know I've talked about this before. There's No one else to validate my experience or contrast of experience with. So at the end of the day, I just feel like I'm here to fuck. Shit up and take names. I will have a yacht. I will do everything I say I'm going to do.
And I think what, one day, my family will catch on and they'll be like, wow, and they'll be like, I should have believed in you and I'm always looking at the people's family members who are like willing to give their kidney for their kids college tuition or Ever and I look at this as like I came here to do it my own way and not feel like anyone can hold anything over my head. So I just don't really care. I don't know, I don't ever think about that.
But my mom and me have gotten so close since getting into it with my spirituality, because I learned that she was just her own person, having her own experiences and going through her own trauma, and that was just projected onto me. So, I started to see my mom is like a Human Instead of like this person that was supposed to protect and Save.
Save me but instead this person who was also struggling and going through her own addictions and vices and shitty relationships and whatever, and then like I was always caught between my parents drama. So I feel like just kind of separating myself from that drama and now it's just like don't ask don't tell energy like I don't, I don't know what we're doing but I'm going to do it and so I kind of like to tell people what I'm doing after I've done it.
So I don't really like Prepare them for anything. It's just like, yeah, I got a face that to Mom, you know, Richard Pryor. I'm gonna be like, I did it, you know? So, just kidding mom. I mean, for me, I feel like it's a little bit of both. Like, yes, I don't care at the end of the day because if I did care that, I wouldn't be doing what I was doing.
Like if I was so focused on like still craving my parents validation, which was a huge issue for me like throughout my entire life, like I wouldn't be on your Podcast right now, like I wouldn't be talking to you guys right now, so I feel like there is a little bit of, you know, like watch me because I want to prove you wrong but it's not even in a prove you wrong.
It's just like I want to show you what's possible type of thing and I feel like with anything it's like, you know, you can't wake everybody up. We know that. But like you can still hold the light and lead for people to watch you even if they don't get it. Like people have to come to terms with things like that on their own, nobody can force you. To believe something or to see something like, people have to see it and experience it for
themselves. So it's like, I get that they don't get it. And like, you were saying, like, it's like, I've also, you know, come to learn that. Like, my parents are just wounded in her children like we all are like everybody's walking around with their, you know, hurting her child at the end of the day.
And I feel like, you know, we don't always see her parents that way, but I feel like when you are able to take that lens on, it gives you a little more grace and compassion for me, the things that That they did to you or how they treated you and things like that. But and again just seeing them as a human versus like oh you're supposed to be perfect because you're my parent because that's not realistic. But I feel like we do have these standards for our parents which
is acceptable. I think like you should be held to a certain standard as a parent, but at the end of the day it's just like they don't know what they're doing either. So it's like nobody knows what they're doing at the end of the day, we're all humans. Just living our own Journey, whether spiritual or not. But I do feel like it's more. So in the sense like it's a little bit of both. Like it's like, yes, I don't care what you think.
But to I do care about you. So I'm going to still hold the light and if you want to follow me great or if you get it, you get it and if you don't that's okay too. Like I accept you regardless, you know what I mean? And that's kind of how I am with everybody. It's like, I don't really care what anybody believes. I accept you, no matter what you're entitled to your beliefs and like, and I'm also entitled to mine soon. Like, I feel like it is like a little bit of a mixture.
ER of both for me. How do you feel about reincarnation and about picking certain Souls that you have this experience with? Because I know for sure, like me and my mom have been sisters before. Like, when I started learning about astrology, I found out that I'm a Taurus, but my moon is in Libra. My mom is a Libra and her moon is in Taurus. So, we're literally day and night opposite, and I'm like, it
makes so much sense. Like everything started to add up when I started to dive into astrology. G. But I'm also really a big advocate for like reincarnation and like the past life's and picking certain people that you keep going through and experience with. So do you feel like you picked all of this with your family to kind of learn and find your spirituality because being exposed to Christianity is like one extreme to the next and like I wasn't exposed to any
religion. I've never set foot in a church of my parents. My mom was raised Baptist but never carried that through any. Part of her adult life. You know what I mean? So at the end of the day, I've never been around religion. I've just kind of been there like, nobody was really forcing me to believe anything.
I was just there and I feel like some of the beliefs that I've developed are really about like this longevity of the souls experience and not just the human or the body and I think that's what keeps me going when things like happened. Like, I got summoned for jury duty or just inconveniences at the been. Since I'm always like, it's okay, like my soul, pick this or like, whatever.
And I find a lot of Peace in that knowing that we picked certain trials, or tribulations to learn and grow from. And I feel very empowered by the stuff that used to make me feel like week or ashamed. I feel like super empowered by all of my trauma now and so I'm like very thankful that my parents, you know, didn't shelter me and I was exposed to a lot of crazy stuff because it's help me.
Me in my like later 20s. And now I'm 30s as like, in this Gap, I've learned so much and Incorporated it, but thinking about reincarnation is kind of like what keeps me going all the time. Like I'm always thinking about that. Yeah, I mean I love that you brought that up actually because I absolutely believe that reincarnation is a thing. I don't know like the ins and outs of what I believe, because I feel like that's something that I'm definitely still learning and still grasping.
But it's funny that you said that about your mom because like different books. I've read and different things like that. You know how you talked about like Soul contracts and things like that. I know I have that with my mom for sure. But there's something that I don't even remember where it was. That I read it, where I was like that. Makes sense where it's like. I think that I was her mom. Yes life. And like it's like reverse now. So I don't know if I was a piece
of shit to her. Like maybe I was a good mom, I have no idea but like maybe I was a piece of shit to her and now she's a piece of shit to me and like whatever. But it's just like I do feel that in a sense and I don't know. Like I don't know how much I feel about like, oh, I chose every single thing that has ever happened to me. Do you know what I mean?
Because I do believe in Free Will and You believe that, like some things like are mutable and changable, don't know that, I believe that, every single thing that's ever happened to me, I chose it before, but I do believe, like, there are definitely certain lessons that I chose and whether I did choose it or not, like they were lessons that I was meant to learn. And that my soul came here to learn and like The Reincarnation thing that I really got.
Like a download about. It was actually, I'm like my last trip that I had. Was that like, you know, No, eternity is here and now and that like just reconfirms reincarnation because it's like your soul is eternal so whether it's like you're like whether I die and then come back as somebody else. Like that's my afterlife so to speak. It's like it's never ending or if I come back as a tree like you're just always going to keep living. It's just in a different form,
maybe you know what I mean. So it's like eternity is here and now and I really feel like that just confirms reincarnation at least for me, but yeah. I'm still, I'm still grasping the ins and outs of it but I definitely would like feel very similarly to you. It's over here, thinking I wonder where you went on your trip and then I realized what kind of trick we go hurts. No, it was a trip and a trip all
in one, you know that? I mean, I don't know what we're allowed to say, so no. Yeah, you're fun clearly. I'm like an advocate for all plant medicine, or, you know, using the tools that are here for the experience, like, using whatever tool that is, I think a lot of people abuse the resources that we have available. I think anything in excess, A now is not good. It doesn't matter if it's a really good thing too.
Much of it is never good. So I think that as humans, one of the things that spirit always tells me is like we're in this age of distraction and a lot of people are going to choose to run and distract themselves the whole time they're here. Like they're never going to worry about these traumas or lessons or whatever. There's going to keep projecting and harming and self. Absolutely, yeah, yeah. And I think that the People such as everyone here.
We're actively choosing to heal even when it's uncomfortable. And I think that no matter what, there is so much power in that because, you know, literally like 80%, I would say of the people on Earth are like totally not worried about a lot of things that they should worry about, but I do try to really give people like space and Grace to just be themselves and not try to impose my beliefs Or judge them or anything? Like I feel like some people because I am so spiritual.
They think that I'm not allowed to have like negative thoughts or that. I'm not allowed to say negative things. Or, you know, I mean that I'm just like, I don't spread fear. That's one thing I refuse to do is spread fear about anything, but, you know, a lot of people get upset whenever I voice, like, those darker parts of me because I think they really see me in this light.
And they don't see that I have the shadow side that I'm not running from her hiding from then I'm like incorporating. And so I do think that overall I am very attracted to people such as yourself and Jim and I'm like, the people that we've kind of all like collected or gathered in this spiritual Community is like anyone who's willing to take their life experience and expose it to the world. So other people don't feel alone is like such a beautiful thing to me. For sure.
And like I just think that, you know, what you said is so true. Like it's like, people think that it's like, oh if your spiritual you have to be in 11 light and this that the other thing it's like, no, you have to Encompass your full self and it's like, nobody is without Darkness. Nobody is without, you know, their pain, their, whatever, like we've all had human experiences and to deny that is denying your own self denying your own experience.
So it's like I think that there is a happy medium. So To speak. Like you said everything in moderation but it's like think there is a happy medium of like, you know, you don't, you know, sit in your Darkness, you work through it, you know what I mean? But and just like what you were saying with people who choose to like abuse certain things like yeah, like sometimes I just do my trips and plant medicine for fun.
But like that, that time that I'm talking about specifically, I was util utilizing that specifically for spiritual experience. Like I set an intention that this is what I was going to do. I literally journaled the Why are saying like it was very expansive for me. Like I was talking to one of my guides that I didn't know who it was and like they revealed themselves to me about who it was and it was just like such a transformative like amazing
experience. And like, I've never like that was the best trip of my life, like physically and look like literally. But like it's just like I do, you know when I'm doing things like that, I do try to make sure there's an intent behind it and that I'm not like just, you know what I mean, just doing it, for the hell of it, not that you
can't do that. But I do like, Like to utilize it in a way that helps me grow and helps me learn and helps me understand the world better because I do feel like you're you get so much more connection to the universe to Nature two things when you do things like that and not that you can't when you're sober but it's just like on a whole different level and it's just like on a whole different level that I just can't even explain it. But yeah, so I agree with what
you said. I'm so jealous of your guys's experiences because I've tried This plant medicine, tripping, experience a couple of different times and I have had no effects from what I have had and I won't say I've had no effects. I I've taken a lot and there's only been one time that I just felt any different and we had people over at our house and I just felt like I just wanted to be by myself. And so I just laid in my bed and my husband was like you've been
staring at the wall for hours. And I just remember sitting there and being like, I mean, I feel a lot of anxiety right now, and that's the only thing I remember feeling was I just felt very anxious, but I'm so intrigued on trying for, like, opening your third eye and having these experiences, these
spiritual experiences. And when I get to take my trip out to see page, I really want to trip and like, go on like a spiritual because I think, too, that like, I'm somebody who I'm very cautious about letting my guard down, and I and being vulnerable and situations, especially like, spiritual situations and things. I feel like, I'm always super aware of the people around me, and I don't want to let my guard down and be offensive about something or freak somebody out
because like, I'm super woo. And so I feel like maybe it just hasn't Ben the right experience. But I'm so jealous of you guys that you've had these experiences and these like eye-opening moments, I when it comes to like connecting with Spirit guides in particular, I'm so attracted to that. And I've done like guided meditations for like meeting your Spirit guides and all kinds of things and that's something that I've never been able to do and that I'm really looking
forward to happening. And I believe, Divine timing. So I believe that there's probably a reason that I haven't yet and there's a reason why I didn't have the experiences and whatever, but I just think it's really fucking cool that you guys can do that. I think it's levels, there's levels to it. And if you're not ready for what's going to come, they could hit you like a ton of bricks and
you will not have a good time. So I do think that it's like the levels of awareness that you're unlocking will give you different experience. Isis. I was just going to say like I totally understand what you're saying about. Like things is Aya tea and like being super aware of people. Like I can be like that too. Just like just sober. So like I totally understand that and I feel like what's really important when you're doing things like that, is the setting that you're in the
environment. It's like, you have to set the stage and it's like, like I said, if you're just doing it for fun and like whatever, like that's totally different, but if you're having like, a specific intention or you want to have a specific experience so to speak, It's like, it's like, when you bless your cards or whatever it is like, you know, you can talk to your mushrooms, you where you take them or whatever.
And it's like make sure that you're in a setting in a, in an environment that is comfortable to you. And I know that like, for me, especially like, depending on, like, how much I'm doing or whatever it's like, you know, there is that part, when I start to feel it, where I do get like a little bit of anxiety, but it's just like, all about like, you know, not meditating but kind of just breathing through it and like, being able to let go like it.
It's very much about, like, if you're feeling constricted because you're like, oh, I feel it. Like, whatever like that, definitely happens. And I feel like that's totally normal, but like, the more you just kind of ease into it and breathe and do it so to speak. Like then after that, it's like you don't even think about it anymore, because you're in it, then.
So, it's like, I'm not trying to give you advice, but it's just like, I do understand, like, where you're coming from, and that's just like, certain things that have helped me is very much like setting the stage. Having an environment that makes me feel comfortable having things around me, that I know that are going to make me feel comfortable. Or whether that's like a blanket, a certain like snack water for sure, definitely have water. Oh, definitely want stuffed animals.
Hence why I have my stuffed animal Utopia you need soft stuff. I personally like to be naked in a robe with pockets, with crystals in it and like a selenite one. Just for likes a key things. But I'll be honest, like, I love seeing people expand into that because I believe that's what's going to heal the world. I believe that that's what's going to change mental health, that's what's going to change people's perception.
That's what's going to wake the world up and I love to see people being able to step out of their comfort zone because it is an uncomfortable situation. I've watched Friends go through the Dark Night of the Soul while on a trip and I've also been there myself ugly crying for freaking hours. So it's not always pretty, it's not always rainbows and puppies but it is totally like You come out of it. You're a different person every time. Like, you don't even know who you were before.
You're so different 100%. And what you were saying about like the Divine timing about like, oh, maybe there's a reason I have an experience that that yet is, I 100% believe that because every single time, like I've had a different experience each time. It's all like come full circle in a way that like what I learned or what I experienced made sense and like the events leading up to it, kind of led to that breakthrough or whatever it is.
I don't really know. How to explain that, but I do genuinely believe that, like, that's probably the same for you as well, and just like something that I was going to say before when you were like, oh, I didn't really have any effects.
I was like, have you ever heard of like people saying like how like, you know, how you would be like on mushrooms or whatever like whatever psychedelic like that's really what the world is like and that's really like what we're experiencing but because like our brains like can't handle it. Like this is us tripping like how we are right now. So I was like, oh, maybe that's You like me?
Maybe you're just like always on hive and like they're just always like seeing crazy shit but yeah, I do I do definitely recommend being out in nature because I think it's like you get the coolest visuals. And you really see just like how everything connects in the world. Like I can't even explain it. Like I wish I could draw it or like send you like a visual representation but it's just like I highly recommend like doing those things out in nature. I mean, if nature is not your
thing then, definitely don't. But like I said, make sure that you're comfortable But I do feel like they're like when it's your time to have like a download as an experience whatever like you will absolutely have one. And like I said, just like, you know, talk to your little mushy peas and like be like, hey like this is what I want to happen. This is what I want to experience like help me out guys. Like I know that sounds again. Whoa, but I know that you guys
will understand that. So I mean, that's just kind of my tips, or at least like what I do, you know what I'm doing that. So you know what's funny about the nature thing? Like, I like nature. I like I love going out in nature and I'm like, I like water. Like I want to be here. I, I know that so many people find nature relaxing.
I am so over stimulated when I am out in nature and there's so many sounds in there, so many things and I also grew up in the mountains in Northern California, which is like bears and mountain lions and fucking hoog Sasquatches nephew like everything is out there and so I always Always had this fear of like the forest in general, even though like that is my comfort place. And so my husband's like when we do it like you have to be out in nature.
It'll be like I'm just gonna and I'm like, I am most comfortable sitting on my bed, then do that. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I need to do it at Paige's house, when she's making anaerobic and we can touch her. You guys are gonna have a great experience. I think that's what's going to pop for you, for real. Yeah. Like if like I said, if nature is not your thing then devotes
gonna pop situation honestly. I did some out in nature before and it was like a thousand and ten degrees outside and like in the beginning of the day, it was real cool. And by the end of the day or like mid-afternoon, I was literally coming unglued. I was melting from the inside out and it was not fun and I got nasty, like, kind of rude to everyone because I was so hot and bothered if you will, and it
look was not cool. So, I do recommend on, like, a fall, crisp fall setting, good to go, but summer, not cold, Jim and I said she doesn't like summer that she gets seasonal depression during summer and I kind of get that too because now I'm starting to feel really revived and like instead of taking naps every afternoon, I'm like wanting to take a walk or
like frolic. Yard or something because I'm just like, I love this weather and I love the seasons when they change, it's like my favorite time. So when you started your spiritual business, what was your goal? Like where you just putting yourself out there? Or did you have like, I want to Have clients or like was that your initial goal because when I started I had no idea I was going to have clients.
I just had no idea that like I would build an actual business from it. I thought I was just like reading cards for my friends or like helping people but nothing like I'm doing now, very similar, and I'm probably even newer to the game than you, I would say. I mean, I don't know that for sure, but I feel like a lot of
it was me being led. Those things like I didn't know what I was going to do, it was just like this is what you're supposed to do. And I was like, okay, like I'm very much like resisted doing what I'm doing now for a very, very long time. I was like, nope, that's not me.
I'm not going to do that. Like, that's not for me like and then it just became a thing where I was pushed by, you know, Spirit by my guides by my higher self and by other people as well, telling me that like you need to put yourself out there more like you should do this. Like, you have a gift like blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh okay. Like I was very very Very hesitant about it and now it's like, I don't know again. I don't know why I didn't start
sooner. That's how I am with, pretty much everything. It's like I talked myself out of things and then once I do it, I'm like, God damn it. Why don't you ever listen to yourself? But yeah, so it was a little bit of like me, encouraging myself on an internal level and people telling me that like, oh, I think that you should do this. I see this for you or see that you have, you know, these gifts or whatever. And at first, it was just like, you know, I'm just going to put
myself out there slowly. But surely and then people started asking me because I didn't do personal readings at first I was just, you know, doing stuff on my stories and posting, you know, General readings and affirmations or whatever never liked people would just having, oh, do you do personal reasons? Like, no other, like, people would keep asking me and I was like, okay, like there is something to this, like I'm going to give the people what
they want, you know what I mean? So that's kind of like how it started was just like people encouraging me, people telling me to again go on Tick-Tock because I wasn't on Tick-Tock up until last year like the tomorrow. I was going to be like my year anniversary of being on Tik-Tok so like I wish I would have started that sooner but it doesn't matter. Like I've like, I have built a great community and I love it over there. Like I said, like I preferred over there, to be honest, but
that was encouraged. You know, by other people telling me to do that and I was very hesitant towards that as well. So it was just more so people telling me that they wanted me to do that. So I was like okay like I'll give it a shot and yeah it's been really good. Like obviously like my end goal
is to not have to work. 925 like you said, not have to work behind a desk and Link, be able to, you know, set my own schedule and to just like be free and do things that they actually want to do. And that I'm passionate about versus working for the man, Even though, like, I mean, I am fortunate like I do have a good work environment where I work that it's just I don't want to do it like I that's not what I meant to do. That's not what I think
anybody's meant to do at the end of the day but yeah that is my end goal is to, you know, somehow build something that's Enough, whether it's with just Arrow or with something else that, you know, comes to me through Spirit, or through, you know, an idea that I have to build something substantial enough where I don't have to rely on a 9 to 5 where I don't have to rely on anybody but myself to you know make my dreams come true so to speak and like give myself you know a good
life. So that's the end goal we're at the very beginning stages of that end goal. But yeah, that's kind of how it all transpired for me. I love that. I really love seeing so many people in the beginning phases of their journey and I feel like this is a good breaking point we definitely want to get you back on to the podcast as you develop this. I love you. Yeah you guys do this is the sweetest Aura. It's like super purple and pink right now and it's just it's very sweet.
It's very happy it's very inviting. I also feel like You're doing a really good job of like connecting with your inner child. I was kind of getting that message that like your inner
child's really proud of you. I don't think that you're giving yourself like as much credit as like Spirit wants you to kind of give yourself and I think that's what's cool about bringing people together and Community is so we can all celebrate one another you know, we're real big on like we don't compete, we I don't care if we all do the same exact thing on the same, exact day at the same, exact time, it will be different and I love
that energy. So go ahead and just let everyone One know where they can find you. And then, we will also link all of your socials in this description box. So if you want to go ahead and just let people know, yes. So I am at Shannon teal and then it's sha and N, 0, n, n n, 23 ends, and then teal is my middle name. T, EA, L, Instagram, and Tick-Tock are both the same. I am on YouTube as well, but that's mostly just my music stuff.
So I do post my personal readings on their unlisted for when people book Still readings from you. They'll go on my YouTube and I'll give them an unlisted link, so that they can have, you know, the video forever and ever at their fingertips, that never goes away. But yeah, YouTube is mostly just for my music and stuff. But if you're trying to follow me for personal readings, just
healing stuff and funny stuff. I'm on Tick, Tock and Instagram at Shannon teal and we will link that in the bottom. I am so grateful. Thank you so much for coming on to our podcast and we really look forward to tapping back in with you. In the next like six months and just kind of seeing all of this grow. And I bet I have a feeling that when you come back, you're going to have taken the leap into your business. Hell yeah. Thank you guys.
I appreciate it so much and I still want that shirt. So we're going to talk about that. Yeah, we'll talk about that. I'm actually, I'm gonna pull you a card from Pages. Dex, I'm going to text you when we're done because I just felt like I needed to awesome. Thank you guys so much. I love this. This is amazing. Thank you for coming to Candyland. Thank you. To everyone, listening everyone who's supporting on the patreon. We did a behind-the-scenes blooper episode before we
started recording. So this is something new. It will only be on patreon. We will not be cutting any little details from it. It's going to be very exciting to do behind the scenes, content exclusively for our people tap-in. If you want to watch the video, we will link all of the information in the description box and we will see you next time in Candyland And I guys, bye.