Welcome back to another episode of Look at Like a Lollipop, the podcast. This week I have an amazing guest. Her name is Baneful Bell, and I am so grateful that you're here with me today. How are you doing? Good, good. Having a good day so far. So you originally popped up on my explore page and it was like this beautiful altar that you had outside in your garage, I assume? Yeah, yeah, I do. I do all my witchcraft work in
the garage, actually. It's just more like fire safe and we just need the room 'cause we have a lot of clients. We work with a lot of different people and we like to do group spell work essentially, which is like, I think a lot of practitioners do it, but they're kind of scared to like show that because there's a lot of like Sigma and Biasy around it. But I like to be like as transparent and open as possible with my clients. So we just made the garage an entire work area in the house. Yes.
And when you speak on fire safe, I have had my issues. Like I have my office, which was the room I was doing all my spell work in. And then I literally almost caught it on fire one day. And I realized that like there just wasn't enough room for the flames to like breathe or like for the flames to be able to like do their own thing. So I started doing it in my kitchen and I had there was this lady, she's no longer doing spell work.
She actually denounced her whole practice, but she would make these like layered candles where she would like roll them. She would take a chime candle and she'd roll it in like an oil, and then she would dress it with herbs and then take another chime candle and seal it in, picking it up. And I thought like, oh, you know, this is fine. I'm gonna put it in a metal dish. Well, I didn't realize the metal dish was so circular that it created like a flame portal. Like it created like a whole
thing. And. Yes, it was very scary though. It was so very like have had several close calls with like glass breaking or just issues overall like I get. To I've had to like rush spells out to like a porch before cuz I'm like, oh, this is too out of control. It's always whenever I've done like a group spell, whenever I've done more than one candle, then, you know, I just like to add a lot of herbs and make it
really pretty. And it just sometimes, sometimes spells that look super aesthetic and pretty, you better have a fire extinguisher nearby because. Seriously, like I was looking in my office the other day and I did not realize from the day that that spell went crazy that the smoke detector was like working overtime, that there's like black on the smoke detector. Like it was bad. Like it was scary. Honestly, I don't try. I try not to use a lot of herbs
in the scale itself. Like I don't create a bowl with like herbs as the base anymore because I've done that and that's scary. It gets scary. We take our herbs and we mix it in a blender and we make mixes for our base. So we have our love spell base because when you mince it up, it creates less of like a fire safety as well too. So you're still using the same ingredients, but it's like minced down, if that kind of makes sense. Yeah, yeah.
They add like stuff to like customize the spell work, like we customize everyone's spell work, obviously, but we have like the base herb for it and we do it that way. And that, yeah, we, we take fire safety really seriously because we all have had really close calls with fire. We all have practice fire. I think like every witch, even if they don't want to admit it, has practiced something that's like been not fire safe, you know, and that's how we learned.
OK, wait, hold on. I need to make sure that I'm. Yes. Like I found this brass, like it's a really cool thing that I do. It's on my altar. It's basically just like a big brass kind of like plate. And it has some elevation to it so it doesn't set directly on the wood or whatever you're setting it on. And it has been such a godsend because if it's in that, I feel safe to know like it's not going to break, it's not going to burn through.
But I had something that I thought was fire safe and it got so hot on the bottom that it literally burned a ring on my previous altar. I always go in the cooking section. That's where I got my trays from. The cooking section in Dollar Tree actually is where we get those cute little silver trays that we use for our clients. Yeah, I saw those. So when you say we, I saw that you have a business partner.
So you 2 do everything together. I do we now we have 3 different witches that work full time at my business and we live together. So we have we have Vespertine and then blue is our like baby witch. So they're new to witchcraft. They're learning. So they're kind of just like our assistant slash like they're just learning under us right now, if that kind of makes sense. Vespertine has been was originally my mentor. She's been studying witchcraft
for like over 20 years. So it's been really cool experience, like learning from her, but we were friends. We met on TikTok and then we became friends. We'd FaceTime all the time. And then like three years later down the line, she was like, come move to Santa Barbara. I was like not in a good place. So I was like, I just need a change of scenery. So I kind of took like a leap a bit and moved down there and then our business started
growing like crazy together. I think we kind of like bounced off of each other's energy. We're both like very strong manifestors. So I think like combined together, we just kind of we grew exponentially overnight. Yeah. And I can tell because like just from watching your page for like the last few months, I've noticed the growth that you've had just in a few months.
Like I really do believe that when you're in alignment, nothing will stop you from being able to bring in what you need, the clients, the whatever it is, you know, like whatever people think that they're seeking, it will really come to you from a space of alignment. I totally agree. I feel like because there's a lot of people in the community that will even try to like cast on me because they're jealous of like the amount of clients I get.
And I'm like, there's enough clients for everyone. There's enough, there's enough people interested in spirituality and witchcraft for everyone. Instead of using and wasting your time to like cast on other practitioners or try to bring down other practitioners, learn better skills like do a money spell. Like, I don't know what to do a money spell. Focus on yourself, focus on how you're treating your clients, you know, focus on your marketing.
Like cuz really a lot of these people, I'm like, you could be successful, but you're spending so much time and energy being negative casting on other people instead of like putting that energy into your business. And I'm like, that's your problem right there. Like that. You're not going to be successful with that kind of mentality or mindset, you know? Well, I think especially women were just taught to compete with everyone.
And then I really noticed how many people gate keep in the spiritual arena, which my previous business partner that was on the podcast, she was really big on witch talk when she was at her prime of her business and amount of drama that was on witch talk made me really glad that I never ever made it over there. Like I never ever made it over there. I don't know. I stay out of it, but I get if you go to my Instagram, my hate
comments are atrocious. I rarely ever go into the comments section because it's just, it is a minefield. It is a minefield. But honestly, I'm glad because I used to be really sensitive to that kind of stuff. And I feel like this year it exposed me. I got, I got on the wrong sides of like, like I got onto like atheists talk on accident, Christian talk on accident. So I had a lot of people who just like hate witches coming
across my page. And I think like, it was really difficult for me because for a while, for good two years, I was in like a little bubble of like, oh, everyone loves witch crap. And then I'm like, Oh my gosh, no, actually a lot of people don't. And I think it kind of just taught me to like, OK, I don't need to like not give validation from others, if that kind of makes sense. Yeah, I know for sure. So I view hate comments now. They don't bother me anymore. I'm like, OK, you know, I'm
doing something. I saw. And she said like they were like, what is your like one advice you have for someone who wants to be successful? And she's like, if people aren't hating on you, you're not doing something right. And I was like, Yep, I'm taking it because I, I do agree. I think like if you're anything, regardless of who you are, if you're doing something right on social media, you're going to have people who love your content, you're going to have people who hate your content.
And that's just part of the game. Yeah, and I think that's really a unique place to be of. Like, I'm not trying to impress you all. And I also don't care what you think either because that gives you such a way of creative freedom that I don't think a lot of people get to experience. Because when the money's coming in, the opportunities are flowing, nothing anyone can say
is going to affect you. It's when your money's blocked and your opportunities are blocked or, you know, like you said, you're sending out that negativity or you're sending out that vibration. So what type of advice would you have for people who are wanting to start a business but are afraid of like judgement or hate comments? Honestly, maybe this sounds a little tone deaf. You have to just suck it up. I was terrified. I was terrified. I grew up getting bullied.
Like I understand how difficult it is to put yourself out there and it's going to feel so awkward when you first do it. It's going to feel awkward. It's going to feel real. And the first few videos you're going to post, you're probably not going to go viral. You're going to have videos that flop. I still to this day have videos that flop. I think even a video I posted yesterday flopped. That's just part of the game. And like, that doesn't mean you're a bad creator.
That doesn't mean that you can't make it. That's just like you need to fail and flop a few different times before you're going to be successful. You have to just be consistent and you have to want that for yourself. You know, I personally like to do stuff that like, if I feel afraid to do something, I'm going to go do it. Because ultimately, at the end of the day, fear will keep you complacent.
Fear will keep you comfortable. And it's like if you want to grow and expand, you have to be afraid and you have to do stuff that you're going to be afraid of doing. But then once you do it, you're less afraid. You're you get less and less afraid to post. You get less and less afraid of people's opinions. The more and more you do it, the more, the less. And the more and more you do it, the less and less it bothers
you. Yeah, that's how it was like whenever, like five years ago when I got onto TikTok. There really wasn't a lot of, like people on TikTok at that time. So there wasn't a lot of like, overload of content. So like you would put something out and it would get 15,000 likes, like easy because there wasn't a bunch of a content on there. But I was reading something talking about like statistically millions of things are being uploaded every hour across these
platforms. And it's very competitive now. I mean, I started my TikTok back in like 2022. So mine was after everyone had already started being on TikTok, there was already a lot of huge creators. So it was really scary. And I did like have a lot of negative mindsets when I first got into it where I would see a creator being big. And I'm like, why are they big? My content's better. And I just like, I had to like
ego check myself. I didn't take a step back and I'm like, OK, why am I feeling this way? Like towards their success? Because ultimately at the end of the day, them being successful, that has no impact on me. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I need to instead see it as like, OK, if I think that my services are better, then why am I feeling threatened by this other person? You know what I'm saying? So it's like it's I just had to like ego check myself. But I think we all fall into it.
I think just a lot of people don't like to admit it, but we all have an ego, We all have an ego. We all feel some type of way, especially as a content creator sometimes. And that's something that you have to work through or you're not gonna grow, you know, viewing everyone as a competition. It didn't work well for me. You know, I think I'm like blowing crazy this year because I started collaborating with
other people. Like if I was overly jealous and if I didn't check my ego, I wouldn't have started working with Fespertine and I wouldn't have been able to grow my business to where it is right now, you know? And I think it's really beautiful doing something like that you 2 are doing that's very authentic and like pure because you can tell in your like alters or like your setups.
Like it's really meticulously planned out, like all the herbs, the the candle placements, like everything's really beautiful. And I think so many people underestimate what you can get at the dollar store to like shift your whole life, like you said earlier, like do a fucking money spell or do something for
yourself. Like, so many people don't realize, like, putting makeup on is glamour magic or getting your hair done or the reason you feel so good when you get your hair done or when you get like, today was my eyebrow day. So they're really dark today. But like, in two days, they'll be perfect, you know? So it's like the universe puts things into your path to make you feel good. But so many people stay in lack, like lack of mindset, lack of
energy, lack of confidence. And I really do think that's how this system around us operates the way that it did. Because if everyone was confident enough to like, chase their dreams, quit their day job and move across the country, we would have a lot less people working for the system, like for
the matrix system itself. So I really do admire the collaboration context because I have found that a lot of people want to come into my circle because they think they can benefit from something, not really because they want to collaborate or like be my friend, you know? So like I'm trying to navigate like being a spiritual person and staying open and not being like closed off from new
connection. But I have a lot of like really high profile clients, people that are on TV and music and all these things. So I think a lot of people think they're going to use me to like get closer to someone or like step stone. Right, and I mean that's you just need to protect your clients at that point. You know, I, I work with like some high profile clients as well too, but that's not I'm not going to give off their information. I privacy is like our number one
concern at my company. I always make sure whenever I, I have thousands of reviews that I do post, but I always make sure, you know, it's completely anonymous. I always ask before I post reviews to just make sure it's OK. I keep all information as private as possible, you know, and I think that you should have that kind of mindset if you're going to run a spiritual or witchcraft business like you. These are people's lives.
They're coming to you. And usually they're coming to you because they have something that's going on in their life. Like they're not in the best place, you know? So like for me, like that would be really icky. Like I'm not here to take advantage of people. I'm here to help. And I'm not going to exploit my kind of clients, you know, So, but that's definitely tricky.
I definitely think like not everyone has good intentions for you, you know, but I think for me a lot, I, I just don't like viewing other women as competition. You know, I try to just, I just, I think a lot of people like it's an unpacked misogyny where I think like women from birth were taught that other women are, are competitors. When in reality, when we can work together, we create really
beautiful things. Yeah, And, you know, I was just talking to someone that was speaking on community spaces and how much like community was always centered in healing. Like that was like the forefront of healing and the the, you know, medicine women and medicine man and history and beyond. Like community was at the center of the energy. Like we as a collective or as a society have really been driven apart from community. And they keep us very exiled and keep us very indifferent to one
another. And I really do think that's by design. I really think if like, women came together, the world would be like, what the fuck? Like, you know what I mean? Like if women came together and we're no longer centering men or centering relationships or centering these patriarchy, patriarchy ideas, everything would work better. Like they say that women are too emotional to like be in government. But like, look at what the fuck we have here.
You know, like, I'm sorry, we're literally like a reality show. That is our life. That is the government right now. So like, don't tell me that women are too emotional for that. Is run by women like most of the people in power in Sweden are women and I never see anything negative about Sweden on the news. They're mining, they're mining. They're actually I think it might be Switzerland.
There's a couple different countries that have women in leadership and you know what they have free health care. They have great benefits overall like they are doing they have high education levels the happy level. I don't know if it's like a happy meter, I guess, which is debatable on how you can like if you can really measure
happiness, you know. But overall people have higher life expectancies, higher quality of life in a lot of these countries and surprise, a lot of them are run by women. I think like matriarchal societies function better like they. It makes more sense to center women and children for me personally. You know we all came from a woman. Like I was going to say, like women are a portal. We're the closest thing to the spiritual realm. Like no one can do what a woman can do.
And we're sustaining this whole population, you know, like we're sustaining everyone. I don't understand hating a woman because we all came from 1:00. We all came from 1:00. But a lot of women hate other women. And it's, it's so heartbreaking to see because I think like a lot of us were raised to have a certain mindset, you know, And I think even me for like a big part of my life, I was not the best girls girl, you know, I definitely viewed women as competition.
And it wasn't even something that I was like actively doing. It was like very unconscious, you know, But I really, like, just sat with that uncomfortability and was like, why am I feeling this way? Why am I viewing? And it's not just women. I viewed men as competition, but it's mostly women that I feel like I've caught myself viewing as competition, comparing myself.
And ultimately, at the end of the day, what I learned was there's always gonna be someone that could be more conventionally attractive than you. There's always going to be someone that has more followers than you. There's always going to be someone who maybe is doing better than you in one area or another, but there's always someone who may be doing worse and like it. There's no point in measuring your success by other people, by what other people are doing.
That's not going to get you anywhere. You just have to think everyday, am I taking a step in a direction that's bettering me in my life? Am I becoming a better version of myself today? That's all you have to worry about. You won't have to worry about whether you're doing better than Sally. You don't have to worry. You know what I'm like? It doesn't. It doesn't fucking matter. And at the end of the day, you have no idea what that woman's going through.
You can think that they're more successful than you. You have no idea what they're struggling with. You have no idea what their day-to-day life is like. You have no fucking idea. There's so many rich people that have huge mental health problems, huge mental health problems that. Was, you know, like you never know. You have no idea. Going through no idea. You don't know these people. You're seeing what they want you to see on social media. You know they're not posting their bad moments.
Do you do mediumship? Is that something that you're? Are you also a medium? I do yes. I talked to, I've been, I talked to spirits when I was like a kid and I didn't even know like what I was doing. But like my grandma passed away when I was 3 and my parents would come in my room all the time and they'd be like, who are you talking to? And I'm like grandma, I'm like
having full on conversations. I'd write her letters and like, I'd put them in balloons and send them up to heaven because I grew up in a Christian household. So like when I was 3, obviously I thought that was just like how the world worked. So I would like send her messages up, but I was always talking to her. And then as like a teenager, I would like talk to, I would use a candle actually to talk to spirits.
And then one flicker would be yes, two flickers would be no. And I would ask yes or no questions. Like I didn't even realize what I was really doing. I wasn't really even like spiritual at that point in my life. I was pretty agnostic, but like, I've always kind of talked to spirits. And then when I found spirituality, I was like, oh, OK, this is like an actual thing that people do. Cool. And kind of like open myself up to it a bit and yeah, I talk to spirits.
I. My experience is very similar to yours. Like when I was a kid, I just thought that I was weird. I would always be making like potions and spells. I would do spells as a kid. I was constantly in like my fairy era. Like, I didn't realize that that's who I was outside working with was like with the fairies in the fae realm.
But OK. I absolutely love how almost every medium or psychic that I've come across is like, oh, yeah, I was, I was when I was a kid, I already knew because when I was a kid, we would do seances around candles and like pray and we would like, you know, like the craft. We would do like the light as a feather stuff as a board thing. We would do seances. My friend had a Ouija board.
Like we would do a lot of stuff. And I remember like, I think I blocked it out, but something happened with the Ouija board that scared me. And I was like, oh, I can't have those. I can't be around those. And then now I have like a full of them.
I have like 10 of them. But like back then I was just like so scared of it. And I really do think that with like new age spirituality and people coming into their own authentic power, it has really empowered so many people like you said earlier, like baby, which is people who want to explore, they're feeling more comfortable in like coming out. And like one of my friends wrote me earlier and she's a big TikTok creator that works around conspiracy theories.
And she texted me earlier and she said I'm in my witchy era and sent me this like book she bought because I told her I was like, you're a fucking witch. I don't know if you know this, but like the way you connect with spirit is unique to you because she's doing it in a way that connects to the mainstream.
You know, because everybody in the spiritual realm, like can see through Hollywood. Like I'm sorry, like once you've reached a certain level of awareness, your third eye, like you can see, like you said, just cuz they have money and they're showing you this. I can see the pain in their eyes, or I can see that they are, you know, not not happy. Right near LA and all I'll say is there's a lot more people doing witchcraft than I think people realize.
And a lot of the people who are successful, they don't talk about it because we get shamed if we talk about doing witchcraft. But there is a lot of people who practice, but they keep it very secret. They keep it very, very secret. But there's some of your favorite celebrities have probably done some witchy shit at some point in their life, and that's all. That's all I'll say because I'm not going to expose LA, but
yeah. Like with music being a ritual, you know, like when you go to a concert and everyone's singing the same song, it's a fucking ritual. It's a spell. And I honestly do believe that's how Taylor Swift got where the fuck she is because of the way that she is so enchanting. Like enchanting with what she says and how she says it. That girl is a witch. And I know I'm sure you've seen the girl from the Satanic church that looks just like her. Have you ever seen that?
Oh no. How to look it up? The daughter of the person who founded the Satanic church is identical and I don't mean like just a little bit. I'm talking like copy paste Taylor's eyebrows, cheekbones, everything. And so they say that she reincarnated or she, you know, transferred her spirit or however, I don't know, I don't know how it works. I. Mean. She asked over and then. And then Taylor came to. OK, interesting. Yeah, I haven't heard that
before. I'm like really deep into like conspiracies, not because I like go down the rabbit hole and like get really worked up over it, but I'm really good at picking up on patterns. Like, you know, he talked about like previously on other episodes, like Marilyn Monroe was kind of like the blueprint, but they got rid of her. You know, like there's different things in history.
If you look around people that don't play the game, all of a sudden you're mysteriously plane crash or like mysteriously over here and like it's just, it's crazy how like you said, so many people are using witchcraft and so many people are doing rituals, even like beauty rituals that they don't realize is a ritual or they don't realize is glamour magic. Yeah, yeah. I mean, witchcraft is just a
manipulation of energy. It doesn't mean you're sitting around with a pentacle on a bunch of candles. Like they're, there's so many even just blowing out a birthday candle and making a wish that's technically witchcraft. Like that literally falls under the umbrella of witchcraft. Blowing a dandelion that's comes from witchcraft. Like that's literally Alexa stop, sorry.
Yeah, no, what you said, I recently got a book on the fairy like the fae, and it was talking about a dandelion is in connection with them and how that's like an earth spirit and that you should ask the dandelion if you can pick it before you pick it. And I was like, oh, OK. And they're like, don't pick it from the root. Like there was all these like, rules. But you know, there's so many things in our reality that were here to help us that have been hidden from us.
So what's something that has been like revealed to you through spirituality that you never saw before? Well, for one thing, herbalism, like Speaking of dandelions, it's great for your health. You can pick the dandelions we're told to like hate these weeds, get rid of them. They're actually so good for your physical health. They're so good for your heart. They're so good for your skin. You can take it and you can make like a body butter and it's
really good for you. It actually like benefits you. It has physical benefits to it, you know, and it's also just like, I think witchcraft. For me, it was just re grabbing my power, not as just like an individual, but also just as a woman, because I feel like for a long period of my life, I didn't feel like I was powerful. I didn't feel like I was in
control. I felt like things, bad things just happened to me. And that's just my life and it's out of my control, you know, And that wasn't necessarily the reality. There is stuff that I, it was my mindset was definitely part of it, but my mindset was leading to like me making toxic life decisions that were also leading me down a lot of these paths. And just like learning how to like deconstruct that a bit, it was like a huge game changer for me. I started off with like
manifestation. That's what I started off with was like manifestation tarot. And I started with money magic and I'm really good at money magic. My money magic comes to me really, really fast, really, really easy. That was like the first kind of witchcraft I learned. But really, just, like, manifesting was like a huge game changer for me. And like, everyone in my life noticed like a complete 180. Everyone around me was like, there's something just different
about your energy. Like people who aren't even spiritual were like, no, you've changed. Like, I can tell. Like there's a certain vibe that you're kind of giving off now. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, like I've been doing some manifestation and they're like, oh, I don't know about any of that woo woo shit. But then, you know, a month later they're like, hey, so how are you achieving this? How are you achieving this? And I'm like, OK, do you want to learn my woo woo shit now?
Like I used manifestations in order to like, completely cut out recreational drugs and alcohol from my life. Like, I envisioned a place in my world where I didn't need to numb things out, where I didn't need to run from things, where I wasn't afraid of my shadows or my demons. And really working with like plant medicine, which I guess would fall into herbalism, it really did help me snap out of like the numbing energy that I was in.
I really do think I've found a theme of like a lot of spiritual people either go down a really toxic relationship path or a toxic substance abuse path, or they're in a toxic religion path, or, you know, like there's so many different paths that lead us back to our power, lead us back to our self. And I really do think it's such a beautiful thing to watch people like yourself teach others about it because there
are so many gatekeepers. And it drives me crazy because spirit, my guides are always telling me like if you have something, share it with the world. Don't hold on to it. You will be rewarded for it. Release it out into the world. Like even if someone takes your idea and makes a movie out of it, like it, it doesn't matter. Like just share the information. It'll go where it needs to go. And that has been a game changer for me because it helped me Start Stop seeing competition everywhere.
And that's like with the podcast now being a solo project, I'm able to collaborate with people like yourself and other amazing creators that have so much to share with me and in the audience and just really the world. So, you know, I'm very, very grateful to like, just have some of your time and like appreciate you with your money Rituals. Do you do rituals for yourself? Like on the 1st of the month, do you do like the cinnamon and the money bowl or is that something
of the past? For you, I used to. Now I just kind of, I think I've done so much money magic to the point where now I just kind of have to maintain stuff. We do have a money bowl that we add to, but really I just manifested and I just do, I do like I just do personal spell work for myself, but I don't really necessarily do it during
like a certain time or a day. I used to have like a level of rigidity, but now I just kind of do when I feel called to do kind of certain things, if that kind of makes sense. So yeah, I used 'cause I used to be really strict about it. We're like every Thursday I would do money magic. Every Friday I would do love magic every this day I would do
this. And like, I still do try to, like sometimes it just happens to fall on that day, but I just go based off of like my energy where I'm at in the day, you know, 'cause there's some days where like I do wake up and I'm just feeling really negative. And I'm like, you know, I don't need to do witchcraft today. I don't need to do witchcraft today. I don't need to do anything
spiritual. I need to, I need to, you know, maybe sleep in or I need to maybe just like go outside and go to the beach or I just need to go do this or do that, you know, to take care of my mental health. So that's kind of how I've navigated it a bit just because I do have like a lot of I have like BPD. So some days I wake up and I just, I'm not in a mood magic and I'm like, no, I'm in too much of a negative headspace. I need to like focus on grounding today.
I need to focus on just like getting myself into a calm or better state, you know? So I kind of just like I've kind of found like a flow a little bit and I kind of just go along with my own flow instead of forcing it and kind of just doing what I feel called to every day, if that kind of makes sense. I love that.
I love that so much because I have known people that went full time into their business, into their spiritual business and they got burned out, which is why like I've continued to keep my day job, which is like my career. I've done it for 10 years. Like I'm really good at it. So like I didn't ever plan on leaving that. Like Spirit used to tell me that I needed to prepare because there were big changes. But the whole time I realized that that change was within myself, not necessarily my
environment or what I was doing. I was within myself. And so it's funny because I used to get anxious like, Oh my gosh, like one day I'm going to have to choose. But then like, I was in a deep meditative state earlier in this year and I was just really on a healing journey and I was in silence. It was winter and Spirit came to me. And they were like, now your decision to take a step back from your business won't stress
you out. And I was able to take like 3 months off of like public content or just like bookings from my website. Like, I still had my Patreon in my private clients, but it was like no new energy. And there was something so sacred about that reset that I really realized that that workaholic tendency that I have as a Taurus who's very grounded and earth centered on material and foundation and success. And I was like, wait, this isn't doesn't sound fun anymore. Like I'm not having fun doing
witchcraft. I'm not having fun doing spells for other people. I'm not even doing things for myself anymore. And I really felt like I lost myself and like the giving, giving, giving motion. So I took a step back and I raised my prices. And now I feel so much centered and grounded. It's just like, oh, OK, look, that's what I needed. You know, I just needed to take a step back. I kind of went through that too, where I was getting to a point where I was like, this is not fun anymore.
I'm, I'm prioritizing my clients to the point where like, I'm not even prioritizing myself. You know, I'm not even doing witchcraft for myself. And I, I really just had to like it got to a point where I just had a breakdown and then I was like, OK, this is not healthy. Like it's better for me to take a day off then like keep working, working, working to the point where now I have to take a month off of work, you know, instead of just finding some balance and just taking some
days off. And you know, any clients that have freaked out about that refund, you're not the right client for me. You're this isn't a good fit. You know, ultimately, at the end of the day, I'm not going to like sacrifice, but I used to, I really used to. But I'm not going to sacrifice myself for like a sale or for a client because I don't need to. I don't need to, you know? You first get into a business. You're just like, wow, someone wants to pay me for this. OK, OK.
And then like it keeps getting more. And then I would have clients who would book a reading and think that that meant that they got like a follow up call every 30 days to like talk about it. And I mean, it was so bad that I had to like delete messenger and like delete certain apps for a while because it felt like I was constantly being bombarded with questions. But now when people that I'm cool with are friends with are like, hey, how much would you
charge for this? I'm like, I'll just tell you how to do it. I'm not just going to tell you how to do it because like I don't even right now, like I'll just tell you how to do it and it's nothing personal. It's just like you can do the spell or I could do the spell, but I think that you're so passionate about it. Like you're the one ready to let this person go or you're the one ready to move forward. You should do it.
Like that's where I think I've turned a new leaf of, like you said, like there's enough clients for everyone, There's enough energy, there's enough people interested and I don't need to drain my well or my reservoir to constantly pour out. Like, that was the whole reason I started this journey in the beginning was to reclaim myself. So it's easy to get lost when people are like, oh, yeah, I want to give you money. And you're like, Oh my gosh, you
want to pay me? And it just snowballs, you know? Yes, definitely. I, I appreciate, I love all of my clients and I do have most of my clients I do talk to like every day. I answer my DMS within like 24 hours of them reaching out and stuff like that. But it's not like a drain for me personally cuz I, I like talking to people. I really, I really don't mind and like a lot of these people are most people who are coming to a witch are not in a good place.
Most people are not coming because everything's going well in their life. They're going through something that they need help with that they're really struggling with. And it's something that I likely have struggled with or can like at least understand to a certain extent. So I don't really, I don't mind. I let my I'm a pretty open book. I let my clients like come to me, but I am like, I do have
clients who are like, I need my Rd. opener done today and I'm like, well, I'm not doing it today. I'm sorry you're going to have to wait a few days because I'm not in the mindset to do it today. Because I'm like, if I do your spell work today, I'm going to botch it. It's not, I'm not going to be in the right energy. So I'm like, it would be better.
Like I, I personally, if you're going to buy services from like a spiritual practitioner, I wouldn't recommend rushing them because even if you do get your spell done quicker, you might get it done while they're not in the right headspace, you know? So at that point, if you need spell work done faster than what I can give you, you need to either expedite with me or you just need to find another practitioner that has a smaller client load. You just need to find someone
else. And that's kind of what I tell them where I'm like, maybe this isn't the best fit for you because this is how I run my business. You know, I have my wait times listed on there on my website when you book it. If you're not OK with my wait times, find someone else. I'm OK with you going and finding someone else. I'm like, I, I know plenty of practitioners I can recommend to you that have smaller client
loads. You know, I don't mind telling my clients go somewhere else if needed because it's their at the end of the day, it's their journey. It's their journey. And I'm not going to tell them if you need a road opener done today, OK, I respect that that's your journey. But I might not be able to accommodate that. And that's OK too. You know, not everyone a good fit for you. Not everyone is like a good client for you.
And I think it's like important to like, have your boundaries, you know, and the right people will find you and the wrong people will find people who are right for them. Because you. Might not be a good fit for them. And energetically, I have pretty much set up like a ward that like if someone's coming into my space, they have to meet all these criterias. Like I don't want someone coming to me with their last 50 to $100 thinking that I'm going to be able to do all of this by the
1st so they can pay rent. You know, like I would much rather you take that $50, put some gas in your car and go DoorDash. Please, you know, like make an initiative here. Don't spend your last fifty with me. I feel like really try to help everyone or be accommodating for everyone or have a level
available for everyone's budget. And that was something that was really draining me. And I think that, like you said, when people are booking, not rushing the practitioner is so important because my delivery time used to be 72 hours on any spiritual service like spell work or greetings. And, and I'm like, who the fuck are you working for? Like you can make this two weeks. Like who says it's got to be 72 hours?
Like I just saw where my people pleasing and like my Venusian, like Libra moon was like, please help, please stay. I love you. I want to help you. You know, it was just like I was giving way too much and like trying to be way too accommodating. And and like, of course, like I talk to most of my clients and texts, like most people they've been in my life for years on end, but it's like the one offs that come in with us, like I
said. Their last $50.00 for their name and think you're gonna be able to like work 20 miracles for them in the next 72 hours and it's like. I'm like, look, good luck, good luck, good luck about. That if you're. At that point in your life, I think you just need to learn witchcraft yourself at that point. At that point, I think this is a sign that maybe you just need to to work to do it yourself. Because if you're going into that mindset, you're probably
just going to get scammed. Honestly, someone's just going to take the $50 from you and they're going to give you empty promises because most practitioners that are actually legit are going to tell you they're going to be realistic with you, and they're going to tell you $50 is not going to get you 20 different spells. Someone who's giving you 20 different spells for $50, they're probably not doing your spell work. They're probably not doing your
spell work. Because at that point, if they are, they're losing money. They're losing money, you know, So, But yeah, I always, I have a free giveaway. So I always tell people I'm like, you can enter the free giveaway. We do free winners every month. So if you can't afford my services, I understand. But we do offer payment plans and you know, you can join the free giveaway if needed. And if it's really meant for you, then we, we randomly pick the people.
We randomly pick a number through one through 100, for example, if there's one through 100 people that sign up for the giveaway, we pick numbers through that pretty randomly to just like what we feel called to, if that kind of makes sense. And those clients are always so aligned to it's so funny. Those clients are like, I was like, I'll be like 86 and I'll look up the client's name. I'll be like, Oh, that was the exact person I really wanted to win and there and that's it.
And then their spell work, it always like lands like that. So I'm like, it was so perfect and so like meant to be where like they really truly did need my help and they couldn't afford my services and it still worked out for them and it makes it does make me really happy. I do like do free services where I feel called to, you know, but but for a while I think I felt bad even charging at all. I used to have my prices so, so
low. I used to do tarot readings for literally $5, love spells for $20. Like just because I felt so bad and guilty about charging people. And I kind of just was like, this is not fair to me. Like I'm overextending myself to the point where I, I'm not able to like, help them out of people that I would be able to help if I like actually just adequately
priced myself, you know? And that was kind of what I realized too, because I get a lot of people that are like, well, if you love it so much, why don't you do it for free? Pastors don't charge. And I'm like, OK, but pastors have a salary they don't pay. Taxes they. Don't pay taxes. Pastors are still getting paid and like I did for a long time, do witchcraft for people for free. But I realized that if I charge, I can actually help a lot more people because I can make it my
full time job. My full time priority now is helping people. And I wouldn't be able to do that if I was. I couldn't do that for free. I wouldn't be able to help this many people on this large of a scale if I was doing all of that for free or for next to nothing,
you know? What pisses me off about people looking at the spiritual practitioners, healers, which is whoever and thinking that just because it's a gift that they possess that it should be shared freely to like everyone because I also like the first year I established my LLC, which was in 2021. I did free readings for a whole year. Spirit told me they were like, look, if you do this, we will, we will show you the light. And I was like, OK, bet. I was like, I'm just going to
set up the website. I'm going to invest money. I'm going to do it. So if you wanted a book, it was like a 30 minute free video chat reading and people would book them and I would plan my day around it and then they would ghost. They wouldn't show, not always, but a lot like 50 or 50% of the time, people would just cancel last minute, get scared, not show up, whatever.
So then whenever I introduced pricing and started doing that, I instantly got an offer to come on to the Dumb Blonde podcast, which is a massive, probably one of the biggest podcasts now. So cool. I've been on there twice. So I am actually Bunny's resident psychic and so I do a lot of stuff for her and her team. But this was like years ago, like this way before they were really, really big. And at that time that was like the door, like spirit was like, okay, look, you did the work.
You showed us that you would make sacrifices, that you would do this. And then as soon as that year was up, somehow I got connected with Bunny and she was just like, come to Nashville tomorrow. I want to meet you and we're going to do it a podcast. And I was like, because I've been close to Nashville, like 3 hours away. So I was like what? I was like she sent me the address. She was like, here's my managers name and and contact.
So Long story short, like that opened the floodgates of people. Like you can imagine going on a platform like that, like people were rushing in and I was doing the same thing you were doing, doing readings for five and $10, doing spells for 30 or $33 or whatever, right? I just was really just blessed that people wanted to book with me because in the past I was doing it for free. So I was just like, wow, you
want to give me money? So I was like doing all these free like upgrades or flash readings and like it worked for about 3 years until the point I reached a breaking point and I'm like, why am I sick all the time? Why am I drained? And then in February I did a Valentine's Day event in person and the reason I did it is because there was no booth fee and no percentage. So if I went to this event I could basically just run the check all day and keep all the money.
So I was like cool. When I do in person events though, I always feel weird about charging people more than like $30.00. I don't know why it because I'll straight charge you $100 on the Internet all day. But in person I don't know, I just I get weird about it. So I did like 25 or $30 readings. I think I did 20 of them. Girl I flew for like 7 days.
I had never been so sick after that and it was because I chose to go make a quick little $400.00 when I could have just said at home, booked 3 readings and said I did 20, you know what I mean? For the same amount of money. And I really do just want to help people. It's never been about the money, which is why I have a whole last day job so I don't have to depend on my gifts or my clients
for my full income, right? And like, it was just such a hard pill to swallow that like, even if you want to help everyone, you can't. No, you can't. And that's it's hard. I think that's like your people pleasing tendency. You know, I don't want to speak for you, but I'm like, I think the in person events it's more difficult, you know, because it's it's it's easier, I feel like to say no over a screen than like when you're face to face with someone. It's very, very difficult to be
like no and set boundaries. Like it's, it's already very difficult for people pleasing with setting boundaries in general, but especially like face to face. It's like, oh God, okay, you know, I'm so sorry here, Levy. And you just, but you have to get out of that mindset because otherwise you're going to be everyone's doormat. Everyone doormat, it's not going to benefit them.
It's not going to benefit you. I realized for the longest time my people pleasing tendencies, we're actually enabling people and we're actually like keeping them complacent and incredibly toxic habits and they're treating me like shit. It's hurting me, but they're also not growing. So it's not benefiting anyone. It doesn't be people pleasing ultimately. Like long term does not benefit anyone. Yeah. And like, earlier in the year is when I realized that.
And that is literally when multiple people, business partners, friends, family, just like exited my life. Like the moment I was just like, wait, why am I letting you benefit from me doing all the work? Why am I letting you ride my way? You know what I mean? Like, why am I giving you the torch when I'm doing all the work?
And so yeah, that's something that I've learned because so many people will stick around waiting for their free handout, but they don't support you and they're not growing on their own. And that is such a tough pill to swallow because I really am such like a lover girl. Like I just want everyone to like be in harmony and like, I, I totally feel like like in Atlantis or wherever the fuck I was, we didn't live like this. Like we didn't live in competition. We didn't live in fear.
We didn't live in all this. So it's like coming back here and I'm like, wait, what do you mean everyone hates each other? What? What do you mean? Like it's so disheartening. Right. Yeah, it is, It is. I lost I, I had like a 12 house year last year. So I'm in my first house here now, but I had my 12 house here. Do you know much about like
astrology? Hey, yeah, so I took a whole college astrology course under the sky named Night Light Astrology. So he teaches like an online it's basically a college course like his own program. But I did that in 2020 and 2021 and I use Astro gold like the. I use Astro Cafe. Gotcha, so Astro gold is something you actually pay for download onto your computer? Oh, cool. OK. Really cool because you can do a progression chart on that. You can do a transit chart on that.
Like there's so many things you can do. But I read whole sign houses so I know some people do Like what is it like Platycus or whatever is the other one. I have AI have like a private astrologer who actually we work with them now. So we have our sinistry reports are done by our astrologer that does all of my personal astrology's. They've been doing astrology readings for I think about 15 plus years. And my friend was like, get an astrology report and I was like,
what all is going to be said? And like the way that they can read me to Phil based off of my birth chart. I, I was blown away. And I'm like a very spiritually open person. But even then I was like, what do you mean? You can tell by my chart that like this week, I'm more likely to get like a cut or a bruise or like, like the stuff that they picked up on and read was so crazy, so crazy. I was like, I didn't even know you could. I didn't even. It was so accurate it it blew my mind.
It blew my mind. So I, I got my year ahead from them and all of it was so accurate. It was very, very and it was good information to know, you know, it was very good information to know. And so far everything that they've predicted with it has come true. But yeah, I had a 12 house year and that was, that was my first, that was when I first like, that was my first time learning about houses and house years. So I didn't even know that was like a thing.
I didn't know what I was buckling up for. But for those of you that are listening that don't know what 12th house year is, it's the year of endings basically. Yeah, it's a shadow year. It's like it's been a. Year, I lost so many of my friends. I moved two different times. I moved. I moved from Reno to Vegas to California. My partner of one year passed away. Everything that could have, everything that was like, not
meant in my life went away. Like it was like the rug got completely pulled off from under me. And it was probably one of the roughest years I've had in a long, long, long, long long time. But it did open the doors for new opportunities. My business did start like growing exponentially after these people, places, things that weren't meant for me left my life. I did like it opened. It opened up the door for so many new opportunities. My business started booming like right after that.
But really it was like my biggest fears, my biggest things that I never wanted to have to deal with, I had to deal with last year. And it was, it was rough. It was really, really hard, but I grew from it a lot. So it's like, I'm thankful for it. And I'm, yeah, I have mixed feelings about it. I'm like, it sucks that I had to go through everything I went through last year, but like, on some level I'm grateful for it because at least I like, I'm like, let me try to at least get
something out of this. Let me at least try to grow from this and learn from this, you know, so I get something out of this. Last year was just fucking hard. Like I had been on a celibacy journey and I had sex one time and I got pregnant and like thank God I had a miscarriage. Thank God I love spirit, I love babies. I would love to be a mom, but this was not the right person, not the right time, not a good time. And it was literally like on 4th of July, I just hooked up with
like my high school boyfriend. We had sex one time. We didn't speak again for three weeks. And for those next three weeks I was like, I'm fucking pregnant. I can tell. I know I'm pregnant. I'm so scared. I know I'm pregnant and I'm 33 years old. So like at the time I was just like you're you're, you're tripping and you're not pregnant. I took a test before I even could put it down. It said pregnant on it. Like, Oh my God. It was immediately the black
line and you're like. It was, it was like 8 weeks of hell. Because honestly, I am normally a very positive person. I'm a very grounded person. I'm a very just a glass half full person. But something about being pregnant as a female in this world and in this current state of things, But I was so scared. I have never been so scared. Now I see why moms live in fear. Like now I see and understand the term of like watching your heart walk around outside your body.
And I'm like, whoa, like financially secure, my foundation good to go. My mental went fucking AWOL. And I'm telling you, it was such a transformational thing because you're sitting here and you're thinking about this life that's about to happen. And then it kind of like the rug
got ripped out. And then I was like, I sat in the grief and I sat in like the anger, but it was more so such a humbling experience that really all it does take is one time they were not lying about that, you know, like the one time thing actually is real. So I was just like, wow. Like, it really helped me activate and connect deeper to
my like, dark goddess. And like, the internal part of me that has rage and anger and like is fucking pissed off at men and like wants to just uproot a lot of people from this earth, you know? Like, I really tapped into that. And I was like connecting with the Hindu goddess Durga, which is like a destroyer goddess. And I was just really feeling like how all these old versions of me were being destroyed. And now I've been back on my celibacy journey for a year.
But now it's like, you really are going to have to like come to the goddess with an offering or you just don't even have access. Like there's no more like half in half out energy in my life. And I do think that it does take traumatic ass shit to teach you things that help you grow and help you be the best version. And I know like when I bring up the miscarriage, some people are like, oh, no, I'm so sorry. And I'm like, no, it was the best thing ever.
Because for one, until it happens to you, you don't realize the depth of what could happen. And it shocked me back into reality. I can kind of understand that it sounds horrible, but my partner passing it set me free because he was not to, like, dig on him because he's passed, but he was cheating on me really badly.
And I didn't know until after he passed away, you know, and he was taking advantage of me Like he was, you know, definitely not a healthy person, not someone who is ready for a relationship. And I was like, very anxiously attached. And, you know, when he passed away, it kind of was like, it's still hard. I still grieve him, obviously, but on some level I am like, OK, I was set free. It was kind of like a curse was being lifted a bit because like my friend was like, it's horrible.
But I'm glad that you at least didn't get pregnant before that all that happened and all that went down. You know? I'm glad that you didn't end up moving in with him before all that happened and all that went down. And I think like him passing away, that was when it really clicked with me where I was like, this was not a healthy relationship. And like, what am I doing? Why was I, why did I tolerate this kind of like mistreatment from someone for so long?
Because I tolerated so much mistreatment because I loved him so deeply. And like, I think it really clicked with me that like, you need more than just love to have a healthy relationship with someone. You can love someone to the end of the earth. And that doesn't mean that it's a healthy connection for you. And I think that was like a very hard pill for me to swallow. It kind of slapped the lover girl out of me a bit.
I'm not gonna lie where I'm like, OK, now I view relationships and I'm like, no, me just being in love with someone is not enough for them to be my partner. Like I, you know, does that kind of make sense? So it totally makes sense because, like, me and this guy, we dated when we were 14. So something about your brain just changes when you date people when you're young. So, like, he was always, like, a revolving door. But like, at least if I didn't have real connection, I could
have that nostalgic connection. Right. And so I get it. Like, that was a curse. Like, having his baby would have been a curse. Yeah. Like Spirit Strike came to me and was like, you broke a generational cycle by healing from this, by not falling into the trap of the situation. So no, I completely get it. Like love and attraction is what we're taught to focus on, but it's like this person is going to be my emergency contact. Do I trust them enough for that?
Like. You would not have been a good emergency contact. Yeah, like, do you see those Tik Toks that float around? And it's like, this is my emergency contact. And he's like fucking wave boarding and paddle boarding and like skydiving. And like, it's just like he's doing all these crazy risky shit and they're like dot, dot dot. And this is my emergency contact. Some of them are funny and some of them I'm like girl. I'm.
Scared for you. Some of them I'm like, this is not, you know, but women just give a lot of chances to men and we like let a lot of things slide. And ultimately you have to think, would a man do that for you? Probably, probably not. The lengths that women will go to for a man that they love is different than the lengths that most men will go for other women. And that's. Literally like I'm so brainwashed that when I like support you, I fucking support you.
Like I am ready to help you. I'm ready to build with you. Like I'm ready to go to the ends of the earth for you, right?
So I have literally learned so much through that experience because like not only did it go down the way that it did while we were having the baby, he was right there the moment that we weren't having a baby, he goes to me and we have never spoke like goes to me. That's what's crazy about it because then like he'll pop up places, but like it's never in direct contact with me where like in the past I would run into him in the past, I would see him on social media or like
just in general. And I've been reading a lot about like the invisible string theory, the red string theory, like you're not going to meet a person till you're meant to meet them. And when you learn a lesson with someone, you will never see them again. Like you're done. You've you've learned the lesson. And I think that's so empowering. Like that's what's healed me through this because I'm like. Past life connections no longer entice me if you're not helping me grow in this life.
Like I don't need unresolved past life shit with you coming up in this life. Like you're distracting me. I think the biggest lesson I learned was appreciation for life. I think I was taking a lot of because this is the first time I had someone young die in my life. You know, I've had like grandparents pass before and that's not like that's not a kicker because it was like he was sick for a very long time. You know, it was almost for a long time with my grandpa.
I was like almost just being like, I'm so ready for you to pass because you're just in so much pain and it's just your time and you're ready to go. When it's a young person that passes unexpected, it's such a different kind of grief because it's like, hold on. I wasn't ready for this. Like this can just happen at any point in time. And it made me realize like, I'm like, whoa, every single person in my life, including me, can just be gone like this.
I need to appreciate every moment I have with the people I love in my life. I'm doing a podcast. Love you. I agree though, like at the end of the day, life is so fleeting. Every experience is so fleeting. And you know, when we go through difficult times or we breakthrough the walls or the barriers, like it does teach you a lot about yourself. And you spoke on fear earlier and I was reading a book or I, I heard this somewhere and it said that courage is only cultivated in the face of fear.
If you don't ever have any fear in your life, you're never going to cultivate courage. You're going to cultivate complacency. And that changed my whole perspective because so many women go through battles alone. And I know men do as well, but like, as a woman, we're supporting women right now. Like we go through silent battles. So like me being really open about the things I've went through and you as well help so many people that like, it's just mind blowing.
Like the especially the silent supporters, the people who have never booked, the people who never have shown their face to either one of us are literally cheering us on, rooting for us. And that changed my perspective on like friendships in general because I know strangers who want better for me than people that were in my life. And it's like, you got to go.
You just got to fucking go. It is true, it is true, and it's just a sad part of life where not everyone has good intentions and not everyone's a good person. Everyone's capable of being a good person, but everyone is also capable of being a horrible person and you have to make the choice every single day to be a good person. You have to make that choice every single day. Yeah, like I have a really bad thing about like I hate when people litter and I kind of like did a counter curse.
Like if you litter every time you throw something out of your window, you will lose $100. I don't care where you lose it from. You will not have $100.00. So if you throw 10 things out, guess what? Thousand gone back taxes hitting you fucking pest control at your door. You know, like whatever it is like I am really big on like counterbalancing things that
stress me out. Like it really stressed me out when people litter and I'm very, very much like, you will rot because you are littering like every day. I want to just like say some crazy shit on Facebook about people who litter, but I I refrain because I'm like energetically, I've already set the intention. These people will be broke and miserable.
Like that's all they'll be. Well, that's the craziest part is littering is like you're, it's an act where you're harming other people, but you're also harming yourself. Like, you know, we, I don't know, I hate the way we treat this Earth. Breaks my heart. It really breaks my heart because I'm like, you guys realize we only have one Earth, right? Like we only have one earth. And like we need the Earth more than the Earth needs us. Yeah.
So what are we doing here? Why are we, why are we treating our Earth this poorly? It's it's tough. It's hard. You know, I think like fast fashion was like a big thing that was like a problem. And I think that again goes into like just consumerism and just people, a lot of the fast fashion, I'm like, no, find your own style. Find a style that you love and you'll and you'll never go out of style. You don't need to like be buying $700.00 Sheen carts every month
to feel complete. And if you are, you need to take a step back because ultimately, like this is filling a gap. This is filling some sort of gap and it's never going to be filled. It's never ever going to be filled. You know, that makes sense. Yeah, like as someone who has been a consumerist and has really done exactly what you're saying, not like following trends, but just feeling like I need to fill a void. Like I'm very much like a maximalist. Like every all the way up to my ceiling.
Like there is stuff everywhere but now I'm making. My room is pretty decor too so I love. Decor. It's like the the teenage poster wall to the millennial collage wall, the long stretch there. But yeah, you know, like, I really do think that we're just taught to fill the void with stuff. I love material, like, not in a way of like, I think it completes me. I just love art. I just love lamps. I love mirrors. I love ornaments. I love crystals.
Like, I just like those things. But I'm also like Venus and Taurus sun and Taurus, you know, Moon and Libra like and it's funny because my mom's a Libra sun and a Taurus moon. I'm a tourist sign and a Lieberman. So we're actually day and night opposite like day and night. And so like I've learned a lot from my moms mistakes of like racking up debt, buying shit you don't need, buying things that are going to get repossessed or like foreclosed on.
Like I am so particular about paying off debt. Like I had my student loans paid off 4 years ago. Like I will not sit around with debt. It bothers me, it irks me. I don't like it. I am like a credit queen. Like my credit score is like 8:30. If I pay something off, it goes down. It does not go up. They just dropped my shit four points because I've almost paid
off my house. But with that being said, like that's what's important to me. Like I like stuff, but only at the expense that I can actually own it, use it, and appreciate it. I got away from like just getting on Sheen and adding things to the cart. I do have a life hack for all the the people listening. I go to a website, I create a new account as if I'm a new user. Even if I bought, I add a shit ton of stuff to the cart and I leave.
You'll get a 30% coupon by the end of the evening, promise you just happened. Just did it with Fashion Nova the other day. Never shop on Fashion Nova, but I needed a festival shirt and the shirt said good girls go to heaven, bad girls go backstage. And I was like, this is just perfect for a festival. And so I was looking. I added a bunch of stuff to the cart, made sure I was signed in. Left abandoned cart. 30 minutes later, 30% off. Not only did they e-mail it, they texted it.
So then I went back and got $45.00 off my order and got what I wanted. So like I'm really meticulous about how I do things but add to cart, sign up, abandoned cart that is this. I never knew that.
I never. Knew it's different I just got well I got at least once a month will treat myself to something like a purse or shoes nothing crazy like I bought 2 pairs of Vans they were $30 each like I'm not going crazy but I I like to eyeball things and then I manifest them getting cheaper or on sale so there was like a cherry lamp that was $200 and I didn't want to pay $200 I got it all the way down to 60 and then I bought it I think it. My room pretty much besides my
bed was free. I pretty much manifested my entire room love. That I love that you know, I literally think that I'm the reason that like cherries came back into reality because like I the reason I started my business and named it like contrary cherry is because when I was a kid I had a sketchbook and I sketched out a whole business model about cherries like. I was obsessed with cherries. I had cherry everything in the 1st grade of cherries.
I feel like that Y2K that's coming back, like it's like thriving in my own inner child's like bubble. Like my inner world is like thriving. Like when I was a kid, I like love stickers and I loved wall art or Lisa Frank stuff or whatever. And I feel like my house is just like a tribute to my inner child, which is so healing. No, I love, I love nice decord houses, you know, that like show off your personality. Like that is really, really cool.
I don't necessarily I understand a lot of people need to buy from like Sheen. So I'm not even like shitting on people who buy from Sheen, but I'm like, if you're buying, if you're constantly just having to buy stuff to like keep up with the fashion trends, I'm like, I personally just don't think it's good for you spiritually. It's not good for the
environment. It's not good for you mentally because honestly, you can never keep, you can never ever keep up. Whatever your style is, it's going to be out of style one day and it'll be back in style a different day. And that's why like, you just need to find what works for you. You need to find what works for you. You need to really, this is your avatar. Design your avatar the way you like it. Design yourself the way you want to see some someone you want to see in the mirror everyday.
And ultimately, who gives a fuck whether you look like everyone else? What's the point in looking like everyone else? What's the point of being like everyone else? Yeah, because it's the unique people like Prince or like Michael Jackson or people in their era that stood out, that did something differently, that are fucking legends, you know what I mean?
Like, you don't become a legend by doing it the way everyone else is doing it. But one of my friends told me that her acronym for the word witch is Woman in Total Control of Herself. Oh, I love that. Like that is really like resonated with me and it's been in my head for this episode because I just feel like your outward energy is so like what I want to say, like rooted and
like supported. It really does feel like even though your name is like baneful Bell, that like spirits really unsupportive of like whatever you're doing, you know, 'cause like I've just connected with people and you see this like version of them on the Internet and then you get on a call with them like this and it's like, who the fuck am I talking to? Like you can't even tell. Like I don't feel like it's the
same person at all. I know I think people probably think I'm a lot meaner than I am, but I'm, I'm actually, cuz they're like, oh, you've specialized in hexes and painful magic and I'm like, yeah, but I'm a sweetheart. Like I just, I'm more like fuck around and find out kind of thing. So I'm like, you're doing horrible, horrible things. I don't feel bad for hexing you because I'm helping someone else. I'm helping someone else reclaim their power and reclaim their
justice. And if you think I'm toxic for that, that's fine, That's chill. I'm not the person for you, that's OK. That's chill of me. That's not my problem. I'm not here, you know, I'm doing what feels good for me and that's, that's my business. If it's not good for you, that's fine, that's your business. You don't have to be involved. And that's how I, that's how I kind of feel. I'm very open and honest about who I am 'cause I want people who don't feel lying to me to
not be a part of my life. If you don't want to be a part of my life, that's fine with me. That's fine with me. I'm not offended at all. I can understand I'm not everyone's cup of tea. I'm completely OK with that.
I feel like we really are like on a mirrored level of that because I literally said at the beginning of this year on a podcast episode that if you are doing me wrong, if you are sending me evil eye harm in any way, that you need to fucking strap up your bootstraps and get ready for work because baby, I'm
not playing this year. And so I did a family member who's just like, harassed me, and I've talked about it a few times, but I did some spells that basically just kind of transmute and return a lot of that to her and amplify it. I'd be damned if a fucking tornado does not hit her neighborhood the same week that I do that. And her boyfriend's truck got stolen. So I'm like, baby girl, please don't fuck with me. Like I could have ripped your whole house out of the roots,
but I didn't because I decided. I don't. Like harm people. Like, I don't want to be evil because I know that powers can be used for good or evil and I know that in past life's I was evil or I have been evil. I think we're all evil in somewhere, like some way, somehow, you know, But it's like if you hurt women, children or animals. I really. Like fair game. Yeah, fair. Happens to you like fair. I love that. I think so many beautiful people such as yourself are like
helping the world heal. So I just want to thank you so much for coming on and talking with me today. Everyone listening, you will be able to find baneful Bell's website, her booking info, her Instagram, her Tiktok, anything that you need, you'll be able to find it in the description. So, Bell, is there a message that you want to leave us with today? Lord, OK, now I'm put on the spot. Just be yourself. I'm like trying to think, oh hold on, I'm on the spot, give
me a second, give me a second. Let me think pressure. 'S off, pressure's off. I know I'm like, I'm like, I'm being pressured right now. Pressure. Be yourself. You're not ever. You can't be everyone's everything. And if people hate you, you're doing something right. Amen. I love it. Thank you all so much. We will see you next time in Candyland. Bye bye. Welcome to Candyland spicy and sweet you're in for a tree your
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