Welcome to fucking Dandy land hosted by Rampage and Gemini. What the fuck is up, everybody? Welcome back to Candyland, lick it like a lollipop. We have an announcement. The coolest thing has happened since last Wednesday. So Jim and I was being a sneaky person for the last five months and she had planned to surprise me. So if you haven't seen the video on Instagram or Facebook yet, go look at it. I was in utter disbelief and shock. At 8:00 in the morning that Jim
and I was there. It was amazing. And those of you that listen to the podcast, like I've been telling her like I've been trolling her basically since November being like, I'm going to come visit, you like? Yeah, I'll come out. The reason that I said, like, I'll buy my ticket and March and I'll come out and may is because I said something on the podcast that to me, made it feel like I gave it away. So I even this whole time was in my head thinking that Rampage About it.
I showed up this girl's face would turn ghost white mouth wide open and she had no idea. No, I really didn't know at all, because just the whole situation, like, I just did not know, and I'm glad that I didn't know because honestly, I like surprises, if they're done, right? I don't like surprises that Phil have asked, and this felt very thought out, There's a lot of thought that went into like keeping the secret. And anyways, I'm so excited that we finally got to see each other in person.
And I feel like I was thinking about right before we started recording like, I feel so much more connected with you now that we've like, met in person and like the it's exactly the same in person as it is on the podcast. Like you're my bitch. What's crazy?
Is that like all of this came together and I really did not know and it was like, there was Was so many unexpected twists and turns on our trip to Utah and this extremely grateful for the opportunity because we did some stuff that like I know I'll never do again. Probably we did this Trail called hell's revenge in Moab Utah.
And it was scary as shit and I just want to point this out that like these rocks are like Boulders, like it is not just like a regular Trail like oh there's some mud and Rocks know like there are crazy rocks that I don't even know who decided that you could drive over them or that you could put any of this together. But I want to point out that someone was back there with, like, a 1970 Chevy truck.
And they were at the top of this mountain and I just don't know how they got up there because I'm telling you some of these dips even on an ATV was like, scraping the bottom of the ATV. So I just don't know how someone is knocking off their oil pan or their catalytic converter. Her or something like that. On some of these shows, normal trucks.
So these rocks. You guys, these are like, straight up and down fucking rocks, Boulders that you're going over and then we find out when we get to the fucking bottom that the person who was driving us was in two-wheel drive the whole time. They didn't even put it on in four-wheel drive. This shit was sliding backwards at one point. Like we made it out alive. Shout out for making it out. It was literally one of those things where Once you get back, there, there are so many ways
that you could get stuck or die. I don't know why, or how they just, let anyone who has a license to drive these ATVs. Like you can go to a rental company and as long as you're with in good standing of your driver's license and you've never drove an ATV, they're like, oh, you're fine, we got you. All you got to do is follow the line of your tour guide. Baby, there is no line. There is no line because there's rocks. There's Boulders. There's literally mud.
There's dirt. There's Saying there's debris, there is no line to follow and the thing that about it is there's no way in hell that I ever would have thought it was as crazy back there as it really is. And it really is crazy. So this is what like, drove me nuts about this is the person that we organized this I told y'all, this isn't just like you're going up like a trail and there's a couple of rocks and whatever. I'm like, this is some shit I go on YouTube.
I'm like look, literally the Coffee that sponsors. Covenant of rejects is lost Trail coffee. They have a flavor helzer event like the people that I'm talking to like know what the fuck they're talking about and I'm like this is going to be an adventure like you should be an experienced person going on these trails and this person's like, oh, I know you do everything.
You're watching is bullshit, that's all fucked up than fake and then we get on the trail and it's exactly what I said it was going to be, well, I think the difference between what you were watching And like us going out there with a tour guide is that the tour guide has a direct Rail and those people were just hitting every spot back there, but needless to say the trail hit every spot back there and even though we had a tour God he thought the person that was driving our vehicle knew what
they were doing but come to find out. They actually had not drove in a TV in a long time and they didn't even put it in four-wheel drive. So the whole time I'm wondering why the cars are the ATVs and front of us are like spider monkeys. And while we're rolling backwards and slipping and Like night, making the turns like they were and then we made it all the way through the three, our Trail and the guys, like turn your formal job off and no one said anything.
And then later on the girl was like, oh, by the way, I didn't want to tell you all, but I didn't have four-wheel drive on the whole time. Like, great, perfect. I was just like, of course you didn't, and I didn't want to go anyways, but, anyways, we did the thing. Shockingly. We survived my favorite day of the whole trip, though. It was Monday when you me and Jackie spent the whole day. Like we went shopping. First of all, we got that car which was a lifesaver.
And then we went shopping at all these different spots. And something that, and I realized it on the trip that I really loved was there was no feeling guilty about asking questions, or wanting to do something, or if something was suggested being like, no, I'm not really into that. Like there was never a point where I was like, It may cause friction, if I tell Paige, I don't want to do this or if I tell Jackie like can we go back to that store?
So I can return this thing that I literally just bought because I found something better, you know what I mean? I mean, I think traveling with people in general, can be difficult, and I think that anyone that thinks they're best, friends are think they're going to go, get married or whatever, they need to go on a week-long trip with that person, regardless, because it doesn't matter how close you are.
When you're cooped up in a cabin or a small space, it can get Get sticky and you know I think that especially as an adult in my 30s. I haven't really experienced too many like falling out or like mean girl toxic situations with people but being in a cabin with people that you barely know for a week is very trying and triggering and they always say that. If you think you're healed, you should go spend a week with your parents.
But also if you think that person is your best friend, or you want to marry them, you should go spend a week. And a cabin with them. And I think that it can make or break your relationship, depending on the situation. I agree. And that's where I mean. That's why I think I feel so much more connected with our
friendship. Now, to is, like, I've lived with you inside of a tiny house and inside of Airbnb like we've had now we've like actually been put in Situation's where like shit was fucked up and we had to find Solutions and we had to like control energy and like our emotions and things and on positive things too like we had experiences in that a TV, we've gone on Hikes now and connected with like Mother Earth and nature together and those mountains in Utah.
Were so beautiful. I remember, when we started that hike, I literally felt like, overwhelmed, by the energy because I've never been somewhere, where I felt so small before, as I did on that, hike on those mountains, you know, honestly, I love Utah because they just have such a beautiful atmosphere and I know for people that grow up like with mountain ranges and trees and stuff, Like it's just so pretty out there because it's just flat and like it was such a beautiful
experience. I went to Utah a couple of years ago and it was super transformative and it has been one of the main places on my bucket list. So it's really cool that we were able to share all of these new and exciting experiences because that ATV Rod really like, woke me up of like, wow, like, wow, like there's people that do this all the time. Like there's Seven year olds back here and shit. Like this is normal for people to get out here and drink and like, do this.
And I'm like, wow, y'all are fucking crazy. But I will say everyone in Utah is hella adventurous. I think people just come out of the womb like rock climbing there because it's very normal. It's just like what? Keys to he can go, he can go rock climbing, you know and I think that a lot of people in Utah don't realize how people that live in more like City or like you know.
Militant type areas that are not exposed to that and how like different that is for someone who lives in a city or like isn't exposed to that. So I am really glad that we did it. The more that I think about it, the more I'm like, wow I'll probably never ever do that
again. Especially not hell's Revenge, but the fact that they ranked that trail at a number to difficulty and that they go all the way up to 10 just as Beyond me because there was so much going on back there, like people stuck People like, you know, slid off into holes and you look over at them and they just wait like they don't even care that their truck is smoking and that the tire is popped and that their acid is buried in mud and rock, they're just like, oh it's
fine. See y'all just crazy. It's just like they're built different out there. It was funny when we went over that first initial like, big hill that we had to go in go through and we came out on the other side. I could see this truck on this. Like it was that truck that slid, but you could see it on the side. Hi, hi. Hi. Like mountain in the distance. I'm like, how the fuck did they get up there? And then they're like, oh, the same way we're going to get up.
There were about to drive that to and I, my gloves were soaking fucking wet because I was hanging on to that bar so hard the whole time, I will pull my cell phone out to like take pictures of the surroundings, and I will be like this, like taking a picture holding on Hella Tight. Like Did you know that you thumbs up to me? I sums up to you. Yeah. On the, on the screen just now a thumbs-up came up in the corner. I didn't even touch the screen. Really?
I didn't even touch it. I'll spare is like go girl. Barrett said thumbs up for you bitches? I don't know. But I will say that I really really enjoyed like the surprise because as an adult I think we get all the fun sucked out of like our birthdays and surprises because pretty much now like especially in my case, being like an only child. And single and stuff like a battle plan. Something for my birthday. Nothing happens. Like, if I don't plan it,
nothing happens. So, you know, I thought it was cool that for once, like, I really didn't know. And I don't know, I guess it's because I wasn't speculating that you were going to go to Utah with us because you don't like hiking really. So like I never dreamed that, you would even like even if you could go that you were gonna go, I guess. So I just like block that option out of my head and just kind of like didn't even entertain it.
So like For once that I like ask my cards like is Jim and I are going to come to Utah or like you know, I just never asked. I guess like that's kind of the sign of like don't closed mouth, don't get fed because I guess if maybe I would have asked Spirit, they maybe would have told me. But it's like I didn't ask, I didn't even think about it. I never even entertain the idea. So when it happened I was legitimately so freaking
shocked. I was like, there's no freaking way that she's here right now, and it's crazy because Jackie and me had like the same reaction. And even though we like We weren't looking at each other. We had like that same reaction and it was so funny because I was like utterly surprised. I was like no fucking white like what? Hi, love that. I got to cook for you on the trip. Like it was really on the last day that we like went on 28 and you would be like my inner child needed this.
And I was like, I'm just here to be your mother honestly. Like I love feeling like nurtured and supported and stuff like that. Like when people are like oh let's just stay home and cook or I'll cook like I'm like shit. Sign me up. Sign me up. I mean I think oh, We're all like we got to experience a whole different like lifestyle together because like that's completely out of our elements but I'll be interested to like hang out. We're like at least one of us is
in our comfort zone. Like oh I know where we're going or oh, I know this or whatever. I will say that Utah, such a beautiful place, but I think Nick's on my bucket list is going to be like Montana or something like that to go explore since I've been to Utah twice now. And I've seen both Sides of the state.
But the one thing I love about Utah is their speed limits are mainly 80. That it's like that here in Idaho to two things, one, my dad lives in Montana so I have like the hookups in Montana to. I can't wait to take you. I'm going to take you on a California coast trip and I'm not talking dusty-ass, SoCal. We're going to go Monterey, we're going to do Marina. We're going to do Big Sur.
I'm going to show you that whole area because out of all the places that I've ever lived That's my favorite place. It's where I met my husband. It's we're like we had Mac and our daughter. Like that is my spot. I will show you everything. I know where the good places are to stay. I know where all the good places are to eat. I know every fucking thing I got married in Big Sur. I know the Redwood hikes and Big Sur. I know the restaurant down in Big Sur. I fucking got you.
Boo. She knows everything about Big Sur. Honestly, this is the thing that I love is that That we both were able to like experience life together on a different level and element.
Because, like, even when I went to Utah before, like, I saw people with the Jeeps and that you in, like all the things that they do. But never once was, I like, oh, I'm going to rent one of those and go drive it off a cliff real quick, and see what happens because everyone else is doing, you know, but legitimately some of the things that happened just have kept me. Like, I don't know, I think as humans we getting our comfort zone and so I would never do
that or, you know, Oh whatever. And so I think it's cool that we were able to like break some personal barriers as well as just barriers altogether because I'll be honest. Like I've never went anywhere with someone that I trust it enough to drive on that thing that we just drove on like mmmm, no. I looking back on that trip, I feel like I completely understand why Spirit made it
happen the way that it did. As far as like me being able to go and I was even thinking on the trip like I booked that trip at a time when I didn't even know if I was going to be able to afford to go. But I have the money at least for my ticket and I would figure it out and then I just might income started increasing up to the point of going. So I was able to do that trip. Without any kind of financial stress on anything, all of the situations that came up.
I'm like, I could afford to get myself out of this situation. I could afford to get myself a different plane ticket, a different car, different place, you know, whatever it was. And I feel like I was there for a reason to because I can't imagine it just being you and Jackie with the way that the trip went, I just can't imagine it only being you two in that situation. And so I feel like there was a reason that like it All transpired the way that it did.
So do you want to say that? There's a lot that changed with this trip that was just shocking. So we plan this trip back in November and the person who invited us out to Utah lives in Utah and it was a mutual friend of mine and Geminis. And of course we had never met this person and I just want to say that I am the same fucking person on the internet as I am in real life. Like if you're listening to this, This and, you know me, then you fucking know me and I don't make shit up.
Like, I'm not out here. Like, oh, I don't drink. And then I'm at the bar every weekend and people see me. I'm not on here saying one thing. And then doing another, I'm not like, oh, I'm celibate, but I actually have fuck buddies over here like no, like I am me. I think sometimes I may put a more not I won't say like watered down version of myself but I put like a more presentable version of myself online because that's what everyone does. It's our highlight reel like but
I have gotten on their rough. Crying upset and like been vulnerable as well. So I think there's a healthy mix of both on my social media, as well as like Gemini's complete Tick-Tock. Following is relating with her on a personal level. Like, my Tick-Tock following wants a reading her Tick-Tock following actually fucks with her and wants to see what she bought at a storage. So you can't say this one's fake. When there's 65,000, people want to watch her, open up a fucking,
t.j. Maxx bag, great. But like this person that we met with, Seemed or thought that we were fake or acting phony from comparison to what we act online. And what it really was in my opinion is that this girl was more committed to Growing friendships and bonds back in November, then she met her now, husband like right after that or around that time.
And I just think that the whole relationship personal life had escalated for her, and Became a burden that the trip was still going to happen and that she had committed to all these things with you and the surprise and driving to the airport to different times and all of that stuff.
And so I don't want to begrudge her because I do think that she at heart, maybe had good intentions in the beginning, but I just think that the intentions turned a bit selfish towards the end and I think that she was self-sabotaging by trying to push away these Bonds these friendships because now they don't really matter to her like now she's got this husband,
she's all locked in with that. So I just think that at the end of the day, making friends that live across, the country isn't a priority anymore, but the fact that me and this girl had a Snapchat streak that was like, over 100 days meaning that we've snapped or talked every day for over 100 days, blows my mind that when we get to Utah it's like this was a bad idea. I don't even know why I did this.
You are so fucking nice and so classy about the way that you say things because the way that the trip went was first of all don't post people don't have people come to your state and say that you're hosting people and you plan this trip and be pissed off and telling everybody how you're being used. Because you're the fucking ride and they have to go to the grocery store to get food at the Airbnb because you all Greed that you're going to be doing cooking and be a nightmare to
everybody. And then what got me was the you're catering to page and by making dinner and its really pissing me off. And, like, I made dinner, I cleaned and it's like, I'm the person if I'm going to get up and get a glass of water and you're sitting comfortable, I'm going to be like, would you like a glass of water? I did that to every single person I was consistent just because you decide that you want to go on a spiritual retreat
with people. And you want to get fucking lid off your ass on vodka doesn't mean that we did something wrong and if your reaction is to walk away from situations when you're upset, cool, then don't bring the situation back up after you've walked away and expect for people to not have a problem with it. I'm also like, we all tried to talk to her, she don't want that. I'm the person who I don't want to make somebody else feel
uncomfortable. If I've already been Clear that like I have an issue with a situation and you don't want to discuss it resolve it. There's no way I can get out of this situation because we're on a trip. I'm not going to spend my time in a negative energy space and project that onto you so that you're miserable.
I'm going to do my best to enjoy my time with the other people there and I don't know how that's fake and phony because if you want to talk and you want to talk about it, I'm here we were
all here. We all were down to have a conversation and furthermore If you're going to go on a trip with people, whether you invited them or not, if you're going to be on the phone the whole time, don't fucking go, you should have let us know that you would rather spend the time with your husband and then to come on this trip and get mad at all of us. When we're all spending time together and you're on the phone and a loft the whole time and then you're upset, you don't
have bonding experiences. Well I think what upsets me about it is like originally you know I just thought it was me her and Jackie. So then we added you to the equation and then she made it seem like you were doing all this shit. That you weren't supposed to do, but yet she ate everything that you cook. She never fucking cleaned a thing.
She literally was in and out of the cabin, all hours of the night, she literally had told us on the way there that when we got back to her house, after the cabin to not mention anything that we done in her hometown, like don't mention anybody that we met up with, if we ran into anybody, while we were down there, don't mention In any names, don't tell him, don't mention any guys and all this stuff and like for me, y'all haven't even been married a whole month.
Like you at this point the beginning of the trip. You've been married for three weeks and I just feel like that doesn't really sound like a stable Foundation to be going out with three strangers that you've met from the Internet or whatever. And then to be like, wow fuck this. I don't even want to be here but yet you're asking us. To lie and fabricate a story of maybe what actually happened when we finally do meet your
husband in person. So after everybody had their fun out at the beginning of the cabin, we decided to make the most of the last day that we had. And we did the ATD and we had fun. But that was only because we all did with that person. Wanted Jim. And I wanted to stay at the cabin. She didn't want to go on the ATD whatsoever, but that was not going to fly. You didn't go on that cat. If you didn't go on that ride, she was going to make it where no one got to go.
And that's childish because like, we're grown adults and we're not just nineteen twenty Twenty-One like she is literally closer to 40 than 30, I'm literally 30 Jackie's in her 30s. You're at your late 20s like we're grown-ass adults. So I just don't get why a grown adult can't make a grown-ass decision based on what they actually want to do without making it. Ruckus. And then another thing that upset me was, like, majority of the things that she wanted to
complain. About were absolutely a product of her being on the phone being absent and being drunk. That's it really got me. Was I paid $60 for us to have this portable fire pit. So you guys are going to enjoy this fire pit and like, every night was making it a thing. She sat out there for 10 minutes, one night and made a snore and lest and was talking to men on the phone and go in and drive in and seeing dude, and whatever and having some
bullshit. Excuse. So. And then we were the ones who sat there and star gazed and laughed, and did all the things. How are you going to say that your left out of something? You don't even put yourself into how do you expect us to? Also, by saying I paid for that we all split everything 100% evenly on that trip, I split everything evenly before you even know knew that I was coming there.
Well and on top of that is like every time that something would come up, she would be like oh, you can just pay me when we get there and I would be like no and I would just cash, I've heard the money so like I cash that money. Pay for groceries, the day we left at her house like gasps, like all the things. So I don't get where there was all this drama and like chaos or disrespect from her end.
But I just want to say that I still had a really great trip and I'm appreciative of everything that happened to get us to this point because, you know, some of that was made possible by her. But I think there was just like some jealousy or maybe like she didn't feel included because the attention was now taken off of her. I don't really know. Hi. I agree with you that I think that she had those feelings of jealousy, or whatever the attention not being on her.
What I don't understand is one y + 2. If you have these other people consistently, because there were three of us who were consistently, like, would you like to do this? We're thinking about doing this. Would you like to do this? How about we go here today? How about we do this? What would you like for dinner? What what what are you feeling? Ang and they literally contribute absolutely nothing. They give you no, no nothing you
say hey how can we resolve this? Because you seem like you're really frustrated and they yell and they don't want to communicate, like that's something that they need to figure out for themselves. And that's not on other people. It's not our responsibility as three fucking adults to be like, I'm sorry, baby. Did you need me to say that nicer to you, when you've been a royal cut the whole time? What's crazy is, like, I know that we're like, 50 episodes in
to our podcast. But I feel like Jim and I has said this more than once that if she don't fuck with you, she's going to walk. You like you said that so many times. And so, you know, I know that this girl like, you know, maybe has her own perception of what happened. But if you are listening or you're going to, so listen to the podcast for one, you knew none of us drink. And so the whole I'm only going
to bring a little wine. And so I can just have a glass and the evening was a great story till you showed up with a liter of vodka and drink two days. Well, three nights, she drank it in three nights. So, you know, I just want to say that that really was disappointing because if I would have known that even for one minute, that was your intention. I would have reconsidered, you know, only having one car. Four hours from the airport and City, you know, just different things.
That wouldn't have been a big argument at the time but it would have been nice to know or to at least have awareness that that could have been the new experience because I don't fuck
with people who have Ali drink. Like I'm cool with a drink or two, like take the top off or whatever or drink with food, but I'm not cool with not eating all day, drinking from one or two, in the afternoon till 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning and bitching and being Oppressed. And then the next day being upset that you have a migraine and then blaming it on no sleep.
When it's literally, because you're drinking alcohol, like its water, you're not hydrating your body, you're not taking care of yourself and maybe you're not sleeping as well. But that headache is because you're dehydrated and you're in the mountains and whatever. So it's just, like, don't act like everyone else is the problem, and maybe take a little accountability that you're a grown-ass adults, and that you're making really poor decisions.
And the reason you feel left out Is no one else drinks. And no one else was going to party like that and because all your friends in the desert were partying like that. I think you wanted to be with your friends in the desert rather than your friends from the states that you brought in and the more that you set there and saw everyone sober having a
good time. The more you had a bad time and hated yourself because you're an alcoholic and every person that we ran into brought up your drinking and I took a mental note of it and Several people at least two in my mind mention, you always drinking half gallons and asked if you still did that and you wrote a leader, which is close enough in my opinion.
And I'm just like, just because you mix it now with an energy drink or whatever, doesn't make it any less of a problem from drinking it straight and I go through this with my own mother. So, honestly, baby, girl, I felt like I spent four days with my fucking mom. Of which that would have been the last thing that I would have taken a week off work for period. I don't care if Jim and I was going to be there or not. If I would have known that you were going to drink hard alcohol.
Not like a Seltzer or a beer or maybe like someone or something. I really wouldn't have went. I would have never agreed to go. If you would have been like, okay, well on the weekends, I get hammered. If that would have ever been brought into my awareness? I would have been like, oh, hell no. T. Okay, and then here's the other aspect of that for me. So yes the alcohol thing. It's the you drink liquor by yourself and you're upset that you invited three 420, friendly
girls and told them off. You guys are going to be all hooked up and taking care of when you come down, because it's legal at the Spencer, he's here. And I've got the Hook-Up for you guys. So, you're going to be texting everybody including myself about how you're getting it for them while they're in town, and you've got the connections, Auction and then you're going to sit there mad at us the whole time because you don't get down on that.
But meanwhile, we wouldn't even cared about you drinking the liquor if you didn't turn into a bitch. Yeah, you could drink and just chill out. We wouldn't a cared. We done our thing. You designed your thing, but you say, you're so left out. But you're the only person who was judging and you treat everybody. Like they're a mean, girl, but we were literally like we were doing all of the things you didn't have to do anything but drive us there.
And I understood that to the store and what activities like everything's within a 20-minute drive and what was weird about that is we overpaid for gas. Like, you would put 30 in your car. We'd give you like 50. So, I'm like just used just from the start, but the thing that makes me more upset is like, alcohol is a depressant. So, when I see people who drink all the time, depressed, mad angry, and upset, I can't help but think it's a product of your
own actions and choices. Has. And I don't have any sympathy for you. So once again, I felt traumatized from what felt like being in a cabin with my mother. And then there was Gemini like trying to feed my inner child. And then here's my like, monster mom on alcohol screaming and your catering to page, and it makes me sick. I've heard you say that baby girl. I was acting like I was asleep and then I didn't hear everything. But as soon as we heard y'all really start yelling, we opened
our Door and started, listening. I just never told even Gemini that, I heard a lot of it because I just didn't want to get in on all of it. But when you all started screaming at the top of your fucking lungs and you stormed off and slam the door, but before you left grabbed her vodka out of the refrigerator, maybe I saw it. I heard it. I saw it. I think it's a real bitch move for somebody to start an argument and drag people's character and start a fight.
And I'm sitting here saying, how do we? I don't want you to feel like that, we're not feeling like that about. Out you like this is all one-sided like we're not having an issue and you're going to
scream. Now, we have an issue and the fact that it didn't come to blows and I didn't get arrested in. Utah is like, I passed Spirits fucking test because I was boiling fucking hot and like if you had I'm glad that you stayed in the room and that you stayed asleep or asleep because if you had come out of the room and she had yelled at you, I would have thrown Her Off The Loft and I'm not even like I was I was I was fucking ready for a reason at
that point. Like if she got up, I didn't care that we had to crouch in that bitch. I would like and I'm glad that it didn't come to that because I don't like being put in those situations and I, like, you brought up earlier. I've always said, if I don't fuck with you, I block you, I don't want you looking at my stuff. I don't want to hear about your projection and more of your viewpoint on anything. I don't want to see your face. I will just never talk to you
again and I promise it's fine. I will not miss you. Honestly, I don't know how someone who has never met us in person thinks that they can project all that onto us. And that, we would still want to go to her house, meet her husband and her son, and lot of her husband, and then be real fake and phony because like, the only by the only person is being fake. And phony is us coming in and lying to your three-week relationship of a husband and
telling him. Yeah, no we didn't do all the things that you're asking that we did or whatever. Oh, she didn't get told by a man specifically to send her money via venmo and then have to go and leave and go to his house for an hour and come back with some crazy ass story.
We had no fucking idea if you're gonna lie to your partner and you're going to ask people to cover a lie, whether you did something physically or whatever, or not, the fact that you feel guilty about it enough that you would have people lie to your partner. Partner for you.
You've got no loyalty to the person that you're sleeping with and sharing Sexual Energy with you have no fucking loyalty to anybody else and I will not be a part of it and you know, and there was like a lot of balance on this trip because Jim and I am. This person are both married, Me and Jackie are both single and childless, but both of you both have one son and you're married or you know what I mean?
So, it was kind of like this balance of like what you were saying about the disrespect towards her. When it's like 1,000 percent and in my opinion I don't know exactly what happened but I think something happened while she was gone that she either felt guilty about or felt upset about or felt like triggered by and then wants to take that out on you and then on us and on other people and I really don't get why you would bring people to your hometown.
If you're afraid that you're going to do something wrong. Wrong. And that they're going to need to lie for you because like that's not really starting out of friendship. Very well when you're like, oh yeah by the way, met the sky few months ago, we got married. Could you lie to him for me? Because I know we just met like
an hour ago or two days ago. But could you lie to him for me like that makes zero sense to me on your character building because honestly, a trip like a vacation even with family can be very testing and trying imagine going on a vacation with like two or three strangers that you know From the internet and then being in the middle of nowhere, where there are no rental car. Companies, there are no Ubers, there are no lives, there are no
rides back to the city. That was the thing is not only, did she do all of this? But then she on top of that was like, I'm not fucking staying here. In this cabin with y'all, I'm leaving and she's the one with the vehicle and then at one point, she was like, well, I left my keys and I'm like. So you who is mentally unstable in this whole situation. You leave your car keys and ditch us. We take your vehicle that is
stealing your car. Like so that was your great, fucking the ideas that people have on vodka, make no sense, and it's a spiritual like it's a spiritual thing that we were going for. Like it wasn't just some random thing it was like I yes to your point. Like married have a kid. Took time away from my family to go to this because we fucking work really hard.
We're always doing shit. I wanted to let my guard down and emotionally recharge and be filled with like, Friendship and the energy that quite frankly, we always have with our podcast because this is the first time that we've drugs. Well, I've drugged men on here before but this is the first time that we've had a situation that's like, actual drama that we've been involved in and for her to know that that's the energy that you and I maneuver in.
And then to expect that it was going to be different in person. I don't, I'm pretty consistent as a person in person or otherwise, and I feel like I've said a million fucking times that loyalty is the only thing that's important to me, like, I
Not here who you dated. Before me, what you did before me whatever whatever loyalty like the concept of loyalty that when you say what you're saying that I can trust you and that I can believe you no matter if you're mad or you're upset or you're hurt or you're crying or happy, or whatever your loyalty does not change. And I think that's what was not working for me. Was the retraction of support and consistency and appreciation and even just respect that she
was extending doing. All this stuff like yeah girl you put in a lot of work to make this happen and we were being hella grateful like if you were to just sit down buckled up and shut up. People were going to wait on your ass hand and foot too but you weren't in the room long enough to receive anything because you're blocking your about blessings and I know I've said this before and I'll say it
again like a million. People want that perfect relationship or that perfect friendship or that, perfect moment to smack them in the fucking face. But I promise you if you're only looking at things, Everyone's of your trauma or lenses of your insecurities and fears and whatever you're going to reject that every time.
So although, this girl may have found a perfect person that she's just so in love with, she's going to project that onto that person just like, we were all trying to be friends and have a good time and build memories and bonds. That would last for a lifetime. Either way, the memory is going to last for a lifetime. But, you know, I am not going to be upset with this person. I'm not going to hold.
Any Grudge. I'm not even going to block them but they didn't project or spew all that hatred on to me it's like they took it out on Jim and I but included Me and Jackie into the equation rather than sitting down and approaching everyone in a group like hey you all are leaving me out and this is what could make it better? Can we try that? Like, that would be cool and then, move on.
But instead, she rejected any chance to have any normalcy or conversation on the trip, and then had the audacity, to think, Sunday morning, when we checked, Out. That we were actually going to drive for hours and go back to her fucking house for two nights. Like you've got to be delusional baby girl.
And that's the only thing I'm going to say about that because who treats people like that expresses you don't want them around, you don't want them at your house and you don't fucking like them and then think that me being the boss and I am ain't just gonna take care of it. Like soon as you said, we need to get an Airbnb. Can you put this on your card? I was like, done, fuck that, like we're not playing these games like as soon as I realized that we ER not going back to her
house. I wasn't going to spend my Saturday worrying about where we were going to stay, right? Like I was going to get it taken care of so that I could have a piece of mind. So of course, I didn't say that to her, of course, I didn't tell everyone in, like, a spirit all over the stage, but I also didn't want to go hands to hands with fucking bloody Mary over here. Like, I'm over here, trying to fucking live my life, and I'm not trying to turn up and argue and be in a bad mood.
And I think that that's what this person wanted she wanted. people to be in a bad mood, like she was even though that had nothing to do with us, I'll be your Huckleberry baby. If she just stood up and she don't want to go hand to hand out of go on hand to him. I had bail money. No just getting us but at the same time she was projecting it
as much as she could. Like when we went to brunch on Sunday at her friend's restaurant keep in mind our second time eating their spending money local with her friend and her friend has a doll like shoutout. What was it called, Canyons steak and Waffles onions. Bacon waffles. It was fucking dank. It's in Moab, you have to go there. It was really good. And her friend was a beautiful person. And honestly, I think that she was a different person when she lived there 10, 12 years ago.
And I think that it was triggering old memories Old Wounds old things for her. And I think instead of just being vulnerable of like, wow, you know, my child's father lives here. Or I feel triggered. I feel upset. I feel some type of way and expressing that and being vulnerable. She took that out on us because like baby girl, you cannot say that I'm not the same person online. You saying that we brought a bunch of outfits and multiple
suitcases. Then you need to look at my Instagram and and just go ahead and take inventory of me because I'm not going anywhere without three bags. The fuck. Do I look like a week with? A bag would? I mean, what am I supposed to bring a little Satchel? Like, with that, it made you happy? If I wore the same underwear all week, like, what do you want from me? Yes, I had a hooded for every day. What did you want from me? Like, I don't know why it matters. How many bags you bring?
Is she paying for your luggage? She is not. So what does it matter? How many bags you bring? What? You're doing. How many outfits you have? It didn't bother me in one fucking way or the other and honestly, I feel like it was just A projection of insecurity, like just say that you don't wear cute clothes or that you don't care about your appearance. They said, the whole trip. All I do is wear leggings and hoodies. Oh, and I'm over here, like I hadn't.
I literally was in the bathroom for two minutes putting on mascara, and she goes to the microwave and is like because I'm not high maintenance, I can just do my makeup in the microwave thing and I'm like, would you like to share the mirror because it's big enough? I'm not doing my whole face. I'm just doing mascara and she just ignores me and I didn't even hear the comment that she made, Jackie told me the comment that she made, so like, I don't like it, I don't like it.
One just being a bitch for the sake of being one and then taking zero personal accountability and projecting that on everybody else. I'm really grateful that when I told you guys like I'm not going back and I'm not staying at her house like I'm just not doing that. I wasn't going to be in a situation where then like II just I wasn't going to do it. I didn't want to lie to her husband for her. I didn't like any of it and when I said that you were like, say less.
Yeah, because like honestly I don't know what's up with me and traveling in 2023. But by April of last year I had been on several amazing trips already and this year I have been on two trips and they have both been literal walking nightmares from Detroit to Utah from one Coast to the next. I don't know what the fuck's going on I think it's the trend of trying to plan a trip with three or more people. All sudden it's just not working because I normally just me and
one person. It's you going on trips with people who don't know, how to host trips. Because even like she knew that area. One, you've and you've gone on trips where the people just didn't know the area. And so, like, I think that's like, two strikes is like, whatever but I'm telling you, I'm the hostess with the fucking mostest and I'm going to rock your world next year, when we go to Mars. Right. And down the coast.
Well, I just want to say that, like, I have a friend coming in this weekend, who is driving about 13 hours to come here and go to a concert and do things with me. And one of the things that she said, and I never said this. She said, I want to cook for you and Jackie and take care of y'all on Friday night, and this was before like any she doesn't
even know about anything. In Utah, she didn't know anything about what was going on, nothing but the That this woman wants to drive from the a.m. to the p.m. Thursday through Friday. Then get here and go to the grocery and cook for us says, a lot about the type of energy that I need in my fucking life, baby. We have different levels that we bring.
So, when Jim, and I was catering to me or taking care of me this, which doesn't know what the fuck I do for you behind the scenes, or maybe what I did for you years ago that even got us to the point of meeting and being together. So that's just one for To the girl that's coming in from Kansas. It's the same thing with her. She accredits me with all the stuff that I did for her
spiritually. So maybe this is her way of honoring that and in giving back so it's like for this lady to be like that would never be me. Okay, great. But no one gives a fuck because I have plenty of quiet. I've literally wouldn't even have my businesses. If it hadn't been for conversations that we had, when I was like, literally like out my sickest most like low point in my life and so like, I I accredit literally like a huge part of, like, my business is my brand.
My, everything not to mention that you and I literally have a business, and a brand together. In addition to what we independently do. Like, there's a deep-rooted like Foundation of, like, love appreciation there. Absolutely, I'm going to go out of my way to make sure that like you're taking care of that. You're good. But you did the exact same thing for me, like sure when you're talking about like, physical things that I did. Yeah, I And cleaned and was the house Mom, or whatever.
But you were balancing my emotions you were the person who was like, we're not going to do it like this like, you know, you can be calm about it. This is how we're going to do it. You were the buffer when like, like things were getting really agitated but behind the scenes you helped ground me. And that's a huge reason why I was able to get through that situation and think clearly through it because my initial thing is to like, fight my way out of it. It, and I didn't do that with
you there. So, Maybe that person just has never experienced like a deep healthy friendship, where you're genuinely doing nice things for each other and taking care of each other. Because you love that person. You care about them. You want them to be comfortable. I was all so much closer to my home than you were. I could eat if I had found a rental car, I could have driven home in, you know, nine hours from Moab 5 hours from Salt Lake
and I could have been fine. My husband could have come and picked us up. Like whatever you didn't have that, you can from Kentucky Clear across the country. So I also felt like I had, I knew that you weren't being treated right and hosted, right? So I felt like it was on my shoulders to make sure that you had like comfort and security if
that makes sense. Well, I've all in all, like I think because you know, I am used to exactly what happened and you and Jack You both pointed that out that I grew up in an environment. Exactly like that. Like exactly what we experience for four nights is, is the environment that I grew up in my whole life. So we're when we got to the air B&B on Sunday and I'm like, all right ladies, what's up? Let's go for a walk.
The Walgreens is down the road. Everyone's looking at me, fucking traumatized, Jackie, and Jim, and I both just like, cried. I ended up crying later that night to, like, just release. My also thought I had dirt in my eye because it was swelling. So I wanted to get the dirt out, because the lady that we With decided that we didn't need goggles when we actually needed goggles on the ATV. So, thanks sister went to the eye doctor today. Everything's all good. They prescribed 150 dollar eye
drops. So, we might be picking those up tomorrow. I don't know. I haven't gotten them yet. I'm deciding if I really need them, but with that being said, it was a little traumatic. When this lady saying all these crazy things about leaving us. Because like, growing up, I had been like left in Abandon one time. When I was like 11, my mom forgot about me at the fair with my friend, she like got fucked up in the beer booth and just bounced from the fair.
And I was there, you know what I mean? And so I went there a lot of traumatic things where I didn't have a ride, like, exactly the scenario. She was trying to put us in so I don't know. I just like wasn't worried about it like and then we got to the air B&B. I just I felt like hurt like wow this girl did this but then also I felt like wow, like I took one elbow. Not like a big win because Jim and I was here, I didn't know Jim and I was going to be here.
So like in all I guess I like being a Libra moon, just found that real balance point of it was just like fuck it and it really didn't get me, you know, I won't think much about it like two weeks ago by and I'll just completely forget like all the bad stuff that happened and just probably only be remembering like they're really cool stuff that happened. So at the end of the day I just feel like it's cool that we could be there and support each other through something I'm
sure. It wanted to put us in some weird-ass situation for the first time we met just because, like, that's how the universe works, there is balance and everything, like something really cool happened, and then something really crazy was happening, but I think at the end of the day, people will realize that they're the fucking bad guy on their own story and like that, they keep repeating those situations time and time again. So, there's anything that you all can take from this story is
like don't commit to something. Months in advance and then let it get down to the day and you were ejected or you resent it. I think that the appropriate time to change or cancel plans as three weeks before anything after three weeks, you're a fucking asshole. Do not make plans with me. And I mean, like trips like, okay, you have to go to a funeral suddenly and you need to change something. Okay? Cool. But like don't scream at the top of your lungs that you knew it
was a bad idea. And you never know what when you're having shitty actions. What other people go through as a result? To your shitty action. So like for you Garrett, you grew up in that environment. So your response was different for me. I felt and I didn't realize this till we got back to the Airbnb to like or to our place that we got in Salt Lake together. But when we were down there, I literally was in like a fight or
flight. Mode. Because I literally felt like I was living with my ex, and when I look back on all the emotions that I felt in that situation all of the gas lighting, all of the, it's your fault, the abusing substance and like, then yelling at me about what I'm doing, but you're doing something and like, but I haven't done anything wrong, staying up to make sure that
you're okay. And you can get back in the house when you're not responding, after you just took off in a bad mental state, like all of that shit. It made me go through, like, my own shit about being with my ex so soon as we got to, the are being our Airbnb. The reason that I cried was, because I won, I was so angry. And to, I was, I felt so safe all of a sudden as soon as we locked the door and like, I just let my whole guard down because
I was comfortable with you. And Jackie, I wasn't comfortable on the rest of those parts and then I fucking cried. And it was a thing. Okay. So spirit is on fucking one. You were talking the thumbs up. Popped up both your hands were moving. Swear to God, both your hands were moving at that same time I had went to hit the mute button right before and sneeze as soon as I took it off, mute thumbs-up came up.
When you said I was comfortable with you and Jackie I sort of God and it stayed for like 10 seconds and then it went away again. And then you finish your sentence Well, hands were like you were doing stuff, but you almost like, I don't know. And then it's crazy. So, with that being said, your girl will not be planning anymore. Six night, seven day trips, at least six days, six nights. The way that our flight from Kentucky, to Salt Lake was, but I have learned time and time
again that literally four days. Four nights is my fucking limit and that The to travel days that go with that, you know, the mean because typically where I'm going these days don't have any direct flights in the time frames that I want them. And so my flight times are always like five six hours because you have like a small, a over or you go to Chicago or whatever. I'm working for days, 3 nights
for Monterey I've already. Because in two days we could spend one full day in Monterey one full day and like Big Sur and Santa Cruz, whatever, and then you Of a day for traveling in a day for traveling home. Well well well that's fine because I'm telling you three to four days. I think it's just like a perfect time line especially when you're doing a bunch of stuff and like whatever.
I mean I have a house sitter and like my animals were fine and I know all that but like it's just nerve-racking to just be gone that long and have all these bags and all these clothes and all this stuff. So I personally unless I'm I'm out of the country or somewhere hella exotic will not be going anywhere longer than five nights, so, just fucking fuck you. I was like, I don't know why I
planned a week-long trip ever. I just, like was so confused because honestly, I thought that we only were staying at her house for like those transition nights, but the fact that we ended up actually was like half and half. Can you hear my cat? Yeah, he's annoying me.
Before we like wrap up something that I want to be sure to say too for not just her that's listening but for other people like if you're inside of a relationship where that person makes you feel guilty for going on a trip and being away from them or they feel they make you feel like you have to check in with them every 20 minutes and you have to tell them every little detail of every little thing or there on your ass.
Acer, you're worried that they're going to be mad if you don't do that or whatever, that is not a healthy Dynamic, that's not a supportive Dynamic for you to have especially. Additionally, if that person has their own thing that they go and do their own hustle, that they go in, have they go and they leave town, or they go and they hang out with people or they do things and you're supposed to hold down the fort, you then getting the opposite when you decide to go out.
That is fucked up. Energy, you deserve better than that. Everybody deserves better than to be in that situation. Regardless of if your homegirl or not, I genuinely, if she listens, I genuinely attribute 85% of all of the shit that happened to alcohol. I think that it's not only does it fuck up what you do in the moment. It fuck's up your memory of what
happened. Your emotions are not clear and then when you keep on drinking and you haven't had resolution to your situation, Ins you continue to just stifle them down and stifle them down and every time you're drinking and you're getting drunk. You're changing those circumstances again inside of your head.
And I'm telling you that, if three people around you, or saying that's not the version of events, those aren't the things that you said you were impaired, you should listen to the other people around you, who have no reason to say anything to lie to you, when they're the ones who are trying to uphold honesty the whole time. So, So I hope that you get help
with that. Just the fact that you don't drink a gallon now and that you went down to a leader, that does not fix a problem and problems will happen for you more in life and you will continue to say that you don't have friends and that girls don't like you and it's because you drink and you bully them. You're muted, baby. And you Gaslight people and when your dad fighting people and you're telling people that they're the problem or that
they're creating a problem. When in fact you're creating a scenario and then your perception of their reaction is the problem, you're upset that you're not getting the reaction that you want, or that your night like you wanted us to like bow down to you and get into fear mode. Like oh my God, she's going to leave us. Nobody If you would have left us, I would have took a helicopter ride out of there. I would I would have called the
ambulance at this point. It was an emergency but my insurance work it out and I'm kidding. I'm kidding. But literally though like the cool thing about it was that Gemini's husband was like if I have to come get you all, I clearly will and that was all that really I needed to just get through. And plus I had booked the Airbnb and just move the fuck on. Shout out the little it was called Sugar House.
It was like this little Town, in Salt Lake City, and it was such a cute little town because you can walk to everything and they had all these little, like, little witchy stores and little boutique stores, and I just thought it was so cute, and it was crazy because the Airbnb that we had found was literally going to be booked up for the rest of the month. But the only two nights that were available where the two nights that we needed and it was the craziest thing.
I've never seen something so crazy, because when I opened up the schedule, You too. Like, you know, look at the thing. It literally was booked for like the next month which probably meant that somebody was going to come in and stay for like a week or two because whatever, but that place literally was like, it was cute and it like had no problem in that sense, but it was like a dingy old person house. It smelled like old people and I'm not, I love old people, people make me cry.
When I see old people out, I was like, I'm like, don't look at them because like, they're so cute. I want to cry. I'm like, Whatever I've been real emotional lately like just like earlier I got on that Tick Tock Trend about people's dogs words. Like you know, if I leave the party early to go home to my dog, it's because his life is short and he's my world and I got on this like the whole Trend where it's like the same song and I was looking. Oh my God, I was just crying.
I don't even have a dog. I don't even have a fucking it, my cat's gonna live here, like 25 years. And I'm over here, fucking crying over this. So, I've just been real. Nationally driven lately. And I just want to say that, like, you know, I think this is a learning experience for everyone because Jim, and I handled the situation maturely, and in a good way.
I never got my reading though. She was supposed to do a reading for me in person, and because all of that got everybody stirred up, she never even touched her card. Y'all, like she never, I didn't even open Tick Tock one time while I was gone because I was just so like I didn't even need any other energies out. So because tick-tock, It me Tick-Tock has a lot of fear-mongering, a lot of what we
think is educational. Sometimes this fear-mongering not all of it, there's half-and-half probably, but it's dark and light. Its balance, there has to be that on there, but I'll tell you that sometimes, like, if I get too into something conspiracy wise on Tick-Tock that I can just ruin my whole mouth, like I'll just run that my whole frequency because the thing is with fear, is it consumes your life? And the only way to get out of fear is to step into your most abundant hyah Yourself.
And so, if you're absorbing content or watching movies or watching things that are putting the sphere in this like apocalyptic life in your head, you are actively manifesting that if you literally think that you're in your lifetime, you're going to see an apocalypse or world war three. You very well, might because you're manifesting that they've been telling them that World War 3 is going to start since 10 years after World War Two, come the fuck on. Like, literally so much is happening.
Collectively and tomorrow when you're listening to This it will be Thursday and Pluto moves into Aquarius for the first time since 1777 and 777 is my favorite number from Spirit and when I found out that it had not been in there since then, the United States was born in 1776. So just want to point that map out for everyone that like this is the restart of the United States. Like what we are about to endure
is going to be major changes. But if you're in the fear Collective or the Fear mongering bullshit and you're thinking like we're going to lose this and we're not going to have these rights or whatever you're going to manifest that for your reality. I truly believe that everyone lives in their own frequency, their own reality, their own
version of that reality. And you've got to get on the right side of things when it comes to your thought, process, your Collective energy, what you're absorbing from other people, your perception of what's actually happening. And if you're using drugs and alcohol to cope with these changes, It's covid or before you're going to be fucked,
you're going to be left behind. So I'm really proud of a lot of people that I know for a fact I won't name drop that have started working with me or Gemini and gave up the toxic relationship, or the alcohol or the bad habits, or whatever because that shit's fuckin hard. And I'm telling you, for the last five years, since I've been on this path, only things have gotten better for me. Like only things have gotten better and spirit kept telling me that like a big Revelation
would come from this weekend. I think this is what I needed to like my fire because you don't fucking know people. You can talk to them every single day for 110 days or whatever I said and literally not know them at all whatsoever. So Tread lightly and maintain your own energy, do not be making decisions. Whether it's, what job? You're going to take, where you're going to move, what
school? You're going to go to based on a relationship, your family or anyone because people will come and go. And as you raise your vibration, I promise you, you will leave behind the people that you do, not think you will, and that's what's scary about it. And I think that's what's so cool about being able to have this podcast and this platform and I know that we're inspiring. A lot of people because I should send people.
I know all of a sudden have started a podcast, but do y'all like I love it. But with that being said, don't think this is easy. Don't think that you're going to like just put it all together and it's going to come together overnight. The only thing that's going to work for a podcast or anything is consistency. So consistency of your energy, your thoughts, whatever. Because we've mentioned before and I'll say it again like even bunny who gets a million downloads a month.
Now, wanted to give up three years in because it wasn't where she thought it Would be. So it doesn't matter who your husband is, who your wife is, who you are, whatever. It's the energy and intention it's because she thought it wasn't doing well enough. It wasn't. Then we started doing energy work. She started really healing on a deep level. Now, look at her and look at Gemini, will you talk about that
earlier? I just don't think people get that when you actually remove the toxins and the drugs and the alcohol, the bullshit, the drama, but low-frequency fear bullshit that your whole life changes. And yes, that is so scary. Yes, you have to acknowledge that, you are the problem, but if you all took anything from this dramatic, a story. Is that three grown adults? Were not only bullied and traumatized.
We were away from home and a place that we had never been and the lady had the audacity to say that she was just as her out of her element as we were like, baby girl. Come the fuck on like saying dumb shit to get a reaction on most because it's like, how could you say that in a place that you've lived? Your Whole life. It makes zero sense. It would be like someone coming to Kentucky and I'm literally made in Kentucky and I'm just like oh I don't know anything about this place.
Like what like what the fuck? My mind, just reels still over the entire situation, and I wish that she would have just left it at. Like she didn't say goodbye. I didn't say goodbye. Y'all said goodbye. You got you? And Jackie are very nice and we went to our Airbnb. I wish you would have just left it at what it was, you noticed? You've got blocked, it takes himself accountability and be like, Gemini blocked me because I was a raging cont the whole week and move on with life.
But instead it's sending me text messages. Is blocking my number and then sending you messages still saying, oh, I want to talk to Gemini. It's, if somebody doesn't want to talk to you and they tell you because I wasn't quiet about like why I'm not fucking with you. So if you know that don't then keep on harassing people like and that's where people go into
like abusing other people. And they act like they're not is if somebody is doing everything to distance themselves from you and They don't want to be a part of it anymore. Stop chasing them. If you know that like you fucked up and you you know they need to hear my apology or whatever.
I'm good you didn't do it when there was an opportunity to talk face-to-face and now you're being a punk and you want to do it when everybody's back home and not only is that harassing to me it's harassing to you for you to be getting text messages after you just endured the same thing to what are you supposed to? Relay a message for her. What's weird? Is that we all wanted to talk face-to-face, like a grown fuckin adult, it has some accountability and then that wasn't even possible.
Like I just don't get why anyone that is a grown woman would plan a trip for three people to come to her home for six nights and then completely go left field. Talking about I'm off work and not getting paid. Although I just got an eight thousand dollar check all in this talking about bragging about how much you get on your tax return and that it's thousand more than you expected and all this money and then sit here and be a fucking bougie ass. Bitch about nothing but not even bougie.
That's the wrong word because she wasn't at all. It was the complaining about money and complaining about all of the things at random times. After you just tell everybody how your eight thousand dollars richer and how you have way more money. You guys had needed and so you have to call your husband to figure out how you're going to spend the extra couple thousand dollars happy for you. That's fucking dope that you manifested that amount of money
and that you can do that. Like that is fucking incredible. Don't turn around and try and make problems for no reason. I mean, I wouldn't even use the word manifested. I feel like, you know, maybe I at different times at her life spirit is trying to bless her. So that she can be generous and maybe change the tune. Like wow. I just got an extra thousand dollars. Fuck that fire pit. We don't use it what 60 dollars but how many times like you said that she mention that fire pit?
When we used it for s'mores and set out there for hours in the freezing cold looking at the stars just because it was so beautiful. And like what blew my mind is that never once did she star gaze and that was the whole thing? I told her that I wanted to do like other people, maybe have said other things they wanted to do but stargaze was number one on my list because The stars out there in the desert are beautiful.
You can see everything. And I feel like I'm channeling like, you know, native Spirits because it's like, you know, that's what like LED them and like, maps and like, that's how they knew where they were and stuff. And so the first three stories down there to about like, like even on the hell's Revenge, there was a thing on the website. I was looking at about like the stars and how they were used to guide over those rocks and like all kinds of shit. So like that was a whole theme.
That. You even talked about on the drive end, like it was obvious that we planned on using it. You were all excited when we went back inside, talking about how Venus and Jupiter were so fucking bright and we were, you know, trying to share that excitement. And it's the yeah, isolating yourself from those experiences. But I'm grateful that I got to have those experiences with you. Because I sat outside, I start gazed with you. I, you know, you opened your app.
We looked at what the different things. Where we found out what planets were there. We had like deep conversations and even though in my mind when we would have gotten together, would have been like a business trip, quote unquote, I loves that. We didn't do business on this trip. We literally were like chilling out. I love that. You are my personal shopper on Monday. I love that.
I'm now going to send you a budget so that you can just be my personal shopper because that's what we need to have in life. I'm wearing pink because of you haleh to girl, we got a matching shirt. Y'all. I got that. Same shirt that she has on it matching slides now. Yeah and they're pink and black. Look we compromised. It's like the Wednesday Addams and her friend, the pink and black box at home with those shoes. Brian was like I think this was good for you.
Okay, so I just want to say one more thing. I absolutely love everyone who gets it. Who gets the vision by now, the June is we're not fucking competing we're not asking for permission and we're going to do whatever the fuck we want. So if you rock with those three mission statements, then keep listening. Keep writing. We keep getting request to add our podcast at Amazon. So maybe coming soon and also
want to say. We are so grateful for every single person who has been sharing the podcast that sends it to friends like stuff like that. Really means a lot. Because people know about music and different things, through Word of Mouth, like referrals mean everything. And it really means a lot everyone who has been writing. I know that we're starting to really build such a big Community together with both of our platforms. That I'm just extremely grateful
to everybody and I love you all. Yeah, I love it, too. I do think it's interesting. And we've talked about it before, but even though we do completely different things, we collect the same kind of energy and the same intention with that energy. And so it's so cool that we independently do are things that end up becoming kind of our
group thing. And I love when people are like I'm getting a reading from you because I've gotten a reading from Rampage and she recommended her podcast and like whatever. And then speaking of your Yeah, I didn't want to pull out my
cards on that trip. I spelt so funky that what I didn't want to happen is because I couldn't regulate my energy while we were there, even though like I was doing my best, I didn't want to project anything onto the reading that I was giving, and every time I would go in there to grab my cards, it
just didn't feel, right? And I didn't feel like you and I work on a timeline with things and that if it's not the right time you also So weren't I also don't think that you were in your element to be receiving message either? No. Honestly I need in a Glade
Plugin at the last spot. We're at in that about honey about 50 more feet in that other space like that shit was a little tiny and a lot of people on The Tick Tock feed right now are saying that they're really proud of us for handling it handling, the situations the way that we did a lot of people will have me at stargazing. Um, but at the end of the day, I think that there was a test in there.
Pluto moving into Aquarius the first day of every season, it was the new moon while we were there it was st. Patrick's Day who was actually against the Pagan so I don't really celebrate. It's not like a thing for me. You didn't celebrate it. Yeah. I mean I like greens all. We're going everyone's wrong whatever. But um and then also it was a
spring solstice. So like how do you have four and then Pluto moving into Aquarius for the first time and like 300 years and then he's going to go and retrograde and move. Back into Capricorn and then move back and inquiries to move back to California back in Aquarius. It's crazy. So it's about to get crazy. Fuck the next three years, I'm not scared, but it as an astrologer, I know it's going to get crazy but I wanted to get crazy for change crazy for recycling, crazy for fucking
healing. Like, we're crazy for fucking sobriety in this bitch, like your blessings by blocking them by. Not believing you deserve them by fucking masking your true potential by drinking away. Fucking productivity because it makes you feel like shit the next day and then you complain more. Like there's so many levels to it and as an adult you have to take accountability and every way and no I'm not worried about the reading actually I just booked the reading just because
I wanted to support you. I don't even pay for readings for people because when I do a Celtic cross for myself Spirit gets wild with it like Spirit, go so wild, whenever I actually like put in a lot of intention for a reading but normally me I'm just like, wow. Quick card like pull out a bunch of cards and then I do a quick message and I was put on back like I don't do elaborate readings for myself all the
time. Because I just know things like I don't need to ask the cards to know the things if you've ever gotten a reading with me then you know that I've said something and then the card will come out and say the same thing or like I'll say literally exactly what comes up next like every time. So you know the way that things are happening right now especially with the podcast is worried about to take shit Next Level.
I'm really feeling it ignited. Every season is my favorite season, because y'all know, my birthday's coming up now. We got Gemini's birthday up next. And there's just going to be A lot a year anniversary of the podcast. So we know who's been jocking our style, because it's a year later, baby and you're just now on board. It's fine, it's fine. Do you but don't try to take the original and make a copy and think it's going to work for you and That's it.
That's all I have. That's all I have to. I feel like I have said, many, a thought, many a Feeling Again, I'm just, I'm really grateful to not have caught a case in Utah. I just want to thank sweet little baby Jesus, newborn 6 oz little baby Jesus for that, I want to thank page. I want to thank my husband for talking me off the ledge. Thank you crazy. We were laughing so hard. Hard me Jackie and Jonah were in the bed.
And we were laughing so hard on Sunday night like to the point of tears and I just want to add a few of those little details because it was so fucking funny. I literally was doing this perception of the husband's like, the girl's husband in Gemini's husband. And I was like, you're never leaving the house again. Is it over 24 hours will need to double-check, do I have their background were check it? Like, do they have a car? Is there to do? They haven't That's why in the fuck.
Did you guys not? Get your own rental. He's like you and Paige. He's like, you and Paige have enough invested in each other. That like you could trust a page was driving you around. He's like, but you guys should have never gone down and put somebody else that you don't rock with like that in charge of having the vehicle. He had told me that before I went down there. So I had to be like you're right.
Which like, I fuck it. I did it but I really didn't like it and We just need to next time. He's like, I'll come on your trip. Next time. He's like, you guys are going to Monterey. I'll be your cameraman. I won't. I won't get in the way of things, but I don't have. He can just like feel kind of security. I told him what you said when you were like good, I need a little more masculine energy in my life and he goes, what does that mean?
And I said well like if like a tire blows or like we need a light bulb changed or something like that. Like I'll change the light bulb know like for a while like my big brother. He'd come over and be like changing my air filter so that I text him recently I was like yeah, I've been changing my own air filter now. So just let you Shadow said spicy land, it is spicy as fuck and you want to know something I am.
So fucking proud of us for just like not snapping on her as a Duo because if we both would have went after her at the same time, they're probably she probably would have. She kept using the word filling attacked. We never attacked her. Just because all three people are studying in the common area of a fucking 450 square foot, double wide cabin or whatever. Like double let me were knocking girls even when we all sat together and even after she was
doing what she was doing. There was never a toxic like you know when there's a toxic energy of like nobody here fucks with me and like you feel uncomfortable, none of us exuded that energy towards her. It's the reason why she says, well on Saturday everybody, you know, didn't tell me that they had a problem. We all wanted to talk to you, you didn't want To talk to us. And we're not going to lose the
road trip. Yeah, and she left again on Saturday, like the Airbnb was already booked, but we were still trying to talk things out because like we thought that when we went to our Airbnb, that maybe we would still chill and like have dinner. She was saying that, you know, her husband was going to cook dinner, dada dada, dada.
Well, the moral of that story is it just kept getting worse and worse as Saturday went on. And then yes, we went on the ATV and we all had a great time but we also, I was scared to death. Death. I know Joe and I was real scared. I was scared, but I was having fun because I like to be scared, but it was like in pain and not all, loving it. She was loving him out.
Well, like, here's my thing is I told her before we even went on the trip and she talked about ATVs, like I don't think that it's a shock to anybody that like, I have a brain disease and I'm sick, right? And like my head hurts, and I'm like my face hurts. So, going out on an ATV, when I'm already having issues with elevation and going further up in elevation when I'm in pain and having my whole body jostled around and having loud noises of ATVs and whatever.
I wasn't, I didn't want to go Do that. The only reason why I went and did that is because it was such a big deal and the whole time it was you guys don't want to do what I wanted to know. It's me who doesn't want to go on ATVs. So if you're going to take it out on everybody, the whole time, I will go on the ATV. Like, if that's what it takes, I will do that.
And so I was mad the whole time that even if I'm having a, you know, even if it's fun while we're doing it, it's the fact that I'm here because you didn't respect me saying, no, and I I had to do something. I didn't want to do in order to keep peace with other people, so that it didn't get projected onto you. And the only reason, why everybody was just chill, and there was no problems is because we were literally, we couldn't speak.
We were inside of a thing. The only thing you can do is Cheer the person on who has left their, so you bet that every time your you get to the top of that Ridge, and we didn't die. I'm like, fuck, yeah. Daddy hit the gas harder. Like, you bet your bottom dollar doesn't mean I like you. Honestly, how much more subliminal could it have been, when you set directly behind her, where you couldn't even see
her? Like, I don't know how many more subliminal messages could have been there for you because you already knew like you told us, like I told you that it would be dependent on how other things went like because she didn't actually go off on me, and then she was talking shit. I didn't like get that full on projection but then, as the trip went on, she continued it. And then, I was like, okay, yeah, like this. I'm getting older, whatever, and then you were like, oh, I'm blocking her.
Like, I'm never going to talk to her again, like you knew that from like the moment Friday night happened. It soon as she yelled at me, I was like, I will get through this weekend because even if the girls don't want an Airbnb, I'm getting an Airbnb. And I will never talk to this bitch again ever in my life and I stuck to that. As soon as we were done, I blocked her on everything. It should not be a shock. I was not quiet about my
feelings. But again, I will never be the mean girl who needs to use my energy and a way to make somebody feel uncomfortable. When I've already expressed verbally that like, I'm not okay, with this. I'm not going to, I am, just not the person who will make somebody uncomfortable and a situation that they can't escape. That would be me doing exactly what she did. And I would never do that to somebody. So, yeah.
And actually, like I said earlier, like going on a trip with multiple people, especially over the number 3, 4 5, 6 7. The fact that there was 10 people next door to us and a cabin, the same size as ours with a shower that only would get hot enough for one shower is baffling to me because not only did they have 10 people, they had more people stop by and two dogs. At one point two huge dogs like a Husky and another big ass dog. That I don't know the name.
So the fact that there's 10 people because either a, they all were drinking. I think I think they all were over there drinking, which is the message of Like we're going to go the fucking mountains and drink Seltzer's and take our dogs hike in or whatever. Okay, that's the message.
But like never once the drinking or alcohol, even get brought up to me whatsoever from her in the group, text that me her and Jackie had which really frustrates me because she felt comfortable enough to tell you that was the plan, but she was going to bring a little alcohol. He told me that morning when you guys were still asleep and we hadn't surprised you yet. That was what The first things that she told me was at night, sometimes I like to have a little bit of wine, so I'm going
to bring a little bit of wine. I hope you guys won't mind. I know that you guys don't drink like I don't plan on getting drunk or anything and I was like a glass of wine so like unwind because she's not Devil's, lettuce friendly. And we are like, okay, if that's your thing, I'm imagining a glass of wine. I don't mind that he didn't even want one though. That's what's confusing to bring wine. Vodka and wine are very
different things. First of all, and second of all, no one, there was Is no one on opener. There was no one. I still don't understand the hypocrisy of nobody else drinks vodka and I do and everybody else does this that I don't do so I better talk a whole bunch of shit. So those three people that I told them I was going to be the hook up for, like I just I'll just never talk to that person again. It's all Gucci. I like if I saw them, I would say fuck you. I would not just walk by, I'm
not that person. Like I love that you're like I'll just remember all the good things about it and I'm like, it takes a lot for me to be like, actually, I like to avoid conflict because I don't trust myself in Conflict. So I tried really hard to avoid it, but if you and I have a problem and I try to talk to and I try to resolve it and you tell me to go fuck myself. I if you wanted to be on site with me, that would be totally fine with me.
I'll play the game. What's crazy is like everyone was being extremely nice and she was the only one being mean. And the last thing that I ever want to say about this is like, once again, I'm here, asking you do not host people. You don't fucking know if you think there's even one chance that you might not like them, because if you don't like yourself, you probably won't like them. So moral of our story is, do not play games with Gemini, because
it is on On sight. If so, we also want to say one other thing because I know that you plan to take your spouse to the same desert that you just took us to and talk to a bunch of dudes in and told us to keep a secret for you. So, if I was you, this is just like, you know, a little bit of
like, female career. Camaraderie over here and advice, I wouldn't take your husband into the desert, where you were just fucking around whether that be emotionally, mentally, physically, whatever it was that you were doing. Wouldn't take my husband into that desert where you want secrets to be hidden because everybody that you think ride solid for you, I'm sure that you treat the exact way that you treated us and they will spell your secrets.
And if you think that dudes that are fucking with you, while you're married, won't tell your husband to blow up your cover. You are sadly mistaken and it's small town drama.
And I felt like I was consumed into like a sitcom while we were gone and the drama and plot It was you wanting us to lie to your husband and I think the more that you did things wrong or the more that you felt guilty or the more that whatever was going through your head and that you drink and thought about it and thought about it. I think there is something going on there and it probably wouldn't be in the best interest. I agree.
But do you boo? Boo, because we ain't worried about it. Also, since you were telling your husband about the details of the trip, but only your side, I think. If you are listening to the podcast, you should just let him listen to the whole podcast so that he can get all different angles of the story. Instead of just yours that would be, you know. I just think that would be dope since you wanted to include him in on the trip anyways and he didn't get to see what it was
really. Like, I just think it would be really dope if you didn't lie to him further. That's my as wife to another wife, stop being a travel and how that's all the thumbs up. Literally came Up again, while you were saying that and got it, I'm going outside. Stop it. I swear I don't know what's going on but spirit is all-in-one, like I haven't even ever seen that. Do that. And I don't even, it says reactions, but you're not clicking it right here. Look, I just did one.
I did one for you, Spirits, reacting Spirits, doing them. We approve this message. Look, barriers is doing it. Now, do you see it? Yeah, it's crazy. I don't know what's going on. That is so weird. But all right, we love you all. Thank you for coming to spicy land. We'll see you next time on lick it like a lollipop. Bye.
