He says she's so sweet, like a rapper, like a lollipop. Lollipop, lollipop. Welcome back, Mother. Let's go. We're here back on and we have been trying to get a new schedule and trying to get everything worked out and totally missed a week's episode because of hecticness. So we promise we will get back to our every Wednesday, but for now we're trying to get in the swing of bi weekly and it's been hard.
I just want to point out that every time I'm like, Hey, I'm going to come to this recording looking like a bum and you go, I don't, I don't look cute today at all. It's fine. And then you show up and you always look adorable. And I don't know if it's just because like that's the way your fucking face is built, which is just like completely unfair to me as a person or like if I need to come on here just like in my tube tops or like what needs to
happen, I don't know. But you're always fucking so cute when we go on to record. And I literally am like, I washed my ass in the shower today and that's the best that you guys are going to get. She is literally fronting. She has like a horn. Is that your horn? Dude, it's a, it's a, it's a Viking drinking horn. And my dad, actually my dad gifted it to my husband for like Christmas or his birthday or some shit. And I was like, actually, this is too cool for you.
So I'm gonna take it. You talked about that before. Yeah, totally. Probably. It's always like in the space, but now I have this like nifty little area to to show it and flaunt it. But yeah, I have a fucking horn there. I've never drank out of it before, but I totally would. I thought when you picked up your water bottle that you were
about to demonstrate. That makes me nervous, like I don't know where that horn has been and I like to know where things have been before I put them in my mouth. How do you even wash it? I don't know, like, I don't know, I don't know what the rules for that are, so it just sits on display, but it's beautiful.
I'm. Here for it. So today you all we want to talk about spiritual psychosis because I am seeing a lot of creators, content creators, tik tokers, a lot of people I feel like are under spiritual psychosis or spiritual amnesia. And this is also fueled by psychedelic drugs as well as other drugs that are not necessary for spiritual enlightenment, but you know, can excel or amplify, but they're not sustainable actions. Like you can't do mushrooms every day or every week or all
the time. Like you can micro dose, but you cannot go on like some deep journey every single day of your life or you're going to lose touch with reality. You're going to lose touch with where you're at here on earth. So I don't want us to talk about that because I don't feel like this is talked about enough because it is a tabby topic.
It is a taboo topic and I think it's a taboo topic because people hear you talk about spiritual psychosis and if it's something that they can resonate with that's happened to themselves, then they're like, oh, that person's just like talking shit about me or my gift or they don't think that like I'm powerful and magical and and connected. And I think that there is just such a fine line. Why don't we discuss about what spiritual psychosis even fucking
is? Go. Ahead spiritual psychosis is I feel like a multiple different things. So spiritual psychosis can be when you literally only exist inside of the spiritual realm of things and you do away with concerns about reality. So like some people will have spiritual psychosis. Like no, I don't need to like there people go as extreme as like, I don't need to eat and have water because like source sustains me, which you'll literally fucking die.
Also to like losing complete touch with reality where things that they're saying about spirituality, it's it's past the point of like that's kind of out there and you're like, no, you didn't come here from the pizza planet and like you were birthed from a pepperoni egg. Like you, you literally were birthed from somebody's cooter like every other human soul, unless you were cut from the womb. But that's despite the point of what I'm making.
But people who just, I feel like spiritual psychosis comes a lot from people who are not happy with the reality that they live inside of. And they have created these alternate dimensions and worlds and and spiritual experiences and whatnot to remove themselves from the reality and make it so that their spiritual journey means so much more and has so much more involved in it than others.
Yeah, my favorite example of that is when these people, and This is why it is controversial because like if you've referred to yourself in these ways, that's fine.
I think when people have like in their bio where it's like 25th generation psychic heaven sent chosen one or like, you know, like all these little keyword things that like try to create some hierarchy, especially people that are like, in my opinion, new to spirituality, like they really haven't adopted this from their mother or their grandmother.
Like they're trying to channel whatever they want that fits their narrative because like, I can channel things and you know, they have flaws because I don't have all the details. Like I can channel what you need to know right this moment, but it's not going to give you like word from word, like every little detail on that journey because you have to have your own trust and your own motivation and your own energy of intention to move forward on that.
So with spiritual psychosis, I feel like it's when people like remove themselves from the human journey and try to be too like ethereal or like too like, I am high on the horse and I am better than you and I know more than you and my ancestors are stronger than yours. Or, you know, all these hierarchy of systems where spirituality supposed to create unity and community and building upon, you know, generations or ancestral gifts together rather than I'm better than you.
And and This is why. And I know there's a lot of controversy and I'll get your opinion on it. What do you feel about like that Shannon Blake girl that was making like the affirmational music? And at first everyone was, it's like loving her. But now she's been like very much torn apart on Reddit and other platforms for her spiritual psychosis and her superiority complex of like, I'm so chosen and I'm so this and
talking about like being poor. But supposedly her dad works for like some big company or something. Like people did some real digging on her. So do you have an opinion? I know who that is and I know about the controversies, and I think that this is a person who lives inside of the creative and entertainment space.
She's a musician, she's an artist, and not everything that everybody sings about or writes about or whatever is their actual true experience, but a lot of times it's what other people are going to be able to relate to. And some people don't live in their creativity coming from authenticity as much as it comes from like an entertainment aspect or things that, you know, whatever. So those parts of things like those don't really bother me.
I don't, I, I look at those things and I don't think like, oh, that's like a spiritual psychosis thing. Like you're talking about being poor, whatever. It's the same thing as like they're country artists who talk about growing up on a farm and whatever. And you're like, you literally didn't you grew up in a city, but you're, you know, talk about honking Tonkin and that's totally fine. But you didn't live that lifestyle. But you sound good when you sing it. So, you know, but there is she
did sing about that. She like cured her UTI with like crystals and energy or some shit, like cured her own UTI. And I think that that's where like, if that is true that you are not taking human medicine and or herbal medicine or whatever the fuck to cure your UTI and you really think that you energetically did that. It's the same thing to me as like you're not eating or drinking because sources sustaining you. And I think that is a psychosis moment. I think that that is like a
physical health problem. And also, I don't understand the like cancel culture about that because like if she gets a fucking kidney infection or whatever because she has an untreated UTI and saying about it, what does that matter to you? You just go to the doctor and get antibiotics and let the girl sing whatever she wants to sing.
But the other side to her specifically is like people have talked about cultural appropriation with her because she does a lot of music inside of her van and stuff and she's got dream catchers there and she's got all of these different things. And I've never done research into looking into whether or not, you know, she's native or what not. But I, I think that sometimes it's like you don't necessarily know people's backgrounds.
And it's very strange to me for people to go on wild like hunts to go and find people's ethnicities or their backgrounds and their information on things. I think that if people are using things that are not for them, if they are utilizing spiritual tools and ancestors and energy that are not theirs to utilize, the universe kind of brings things back for people.
So what other things to people put their energy into than trying to go on these like wild witch hunts and whatever about if people should be doing certain things? Does that make sense? Yes, I also think that what you explained is another form of what I would think is like some type of psychosis where you're so obsessed with other people's life and other people's energy and other people's story that you feel like you're exposing them. Like, whereas that maybe maybe wasn't a secret.
It's just not something I'm leading with. Like I'm not going to make it a secret that I used to use drugs, but I'm not leading with every post that I'm a recovering addict because I don't feel recovering. I feel recovered and I feel like I I did that out of willpower, not out of shame or guilt or a physical health need to do that. You know what I mean? It was never like some breaking
point that I reached. But I feel like there is some type of psychosis that people with the Internet or with constant access and constant communication get legitimately obsessed with people, celebrities, creators, people in general and their life that going through and exposing their flaws or their skeletons or the things in their closet. Like really motivates you. I feel like that's some form of
psychosis. It may not be spiritual psychosis, but it's definitely mental illness because unless this person is physically harming people and like needs to be brought to justice. Your opinion about what they're doing, your opinion about how they're moving, like you said, things that they may or may not be using in regards to their own culture. I feel like if it's not affecting you, what, what is the problem?
Like as far as like why are you going out of your way to expose this person because their, their dad has money or you know, they say they live in a van and they really don't. And I feel like it's, I mean, it's not a new thing. Perez Hilton was doing it way back in the fucking day to drag every single person down about, you know, every celebrity down about whatever it is that they said.
And you know, now we have people who are like almost social media journalists where like they, they gain a following or people interested because they dive deep into like the dramas or the information about people, like the tea and the gossip about things. And I just, and we've talked
about it before. I feel like if people build their platforms and their the energy that they're surrounding themselves with and for the building blocks of their successes, if you will, if that's the energy that you're having is you have to expose other people in order for these things to happen. So you're building an audience in an energy frequency about around yourself where that's what all of these people are constantly wanting.
And so the second that you slip up or that something happens, everybody's going to fucking Leech onto you with that exact same energy that you've been exuding out. And you're eventually going to be exposed for something that you did or didn't do, or that you said improperly or in a way that somebody didn't like it or whatever. If you don't afford other people grace, you're not going to be given grace in moments that you need it. And people fucking forget to humble themselves.
Yeah, You know, I think that TikTok really had opened that door for people to do research on certain topics that were trendy. Just like people trying to like teach you, teach you about like Bitcoin or crypto are the same people that are selling you some money. Mindset program where they made $1,000,000. Like, no, they made that money because they're selling it to people like you. You are their source of income.
So they've unlocked some type of, you know, coding or data or channel to something from their higher self or from their spiritual team that that you know, has aligned them with that abundance that you're now giving them in exchange for this information that you too could have channeled or you too could have had access to. And I think that like you said earlier, like what are you getting from that?
It's kind of like the saying about grass being greener on the other side, but it's really just green wherever you water it because grass is grass and it can die, you know, like it. It's just really going to be green if you give it water. And I think that so many people starve their own intimate connections and friendships and whatever from that support or that mutual respect and understanding. And then they try to extend that to like strangers or like
celebrities and stuff like that. And I think it's really getting back to the nitty gritty of like, who the fuck am I without all of this external stuff, without these followers, without my car or my job or whatever. Like who the fuck am I? Am I some troll on the Internet? Am IA supportive person, Am I confident? Am I insecure? Who am I, you know? And asking ourself that requires accountability that a lot of people don't have.
So putting that blame on to other people for their flaws or things they're doing wrong or things that they're saying makes you feel better about yourself sometimes, I guess. I also think too like expanding on that spiritual psychosis
thing too. I think it happened so much inside of the spiritual realm where people will also, you know, that person shouldn't be believing that or practicing that because I do that better because of XY or Z or you know, I can practice this because of this reason over here, but this person shouldn't practice that. And I'm not talking about clothes practice. I'm just saying in general, like there's a lot of superiority complex. I feel like I'm a better astrologer than that person.
They don't even know about blah, blah, blah. Well, it's because you do completely different types of astrology. There's there's different types of astrology. So you're not better than somebody. You just are doing something differently than they're doing. And it doesn't mean that somebody is less educated because they are educated in a different topic. And this happens all of the time
inside of spirituality. Somebody isn't, you know, they're not a shaman and so they're beneath you because they're not educated on these things over here.
Well, they could be a fucking badass medium who's doing all of these things and doing all of these different types of channeling, but we're not having respect and understanding for everybody on these different levels of their spiritual journey and these different things that their personal gifts amplify and, and let them learn about and be in touch with.
And we're, I feel, and, and I'd love to get your opinion on this, but I feel that even if we all have the same title to a gift, we're all experiencing our gifts differently. My gift of mediumship is going to come through differently than your gift of mediumship, even if we're reading the exact same person, because even if we are in tap with all of our Claire's, your thing may be that you are stronger and you're clairvoyant in the way that messages come through.
And maybe I'm stronger and clairaudience. And so I'm like, I'm directly hearing these things and able to give that to you. And you're like, no, I know these messages coming through and I just know the things, but I can't explain why I know the things. We're both giving you information from the same source, from the same thing. You're just receiving that message differently. And there's space for both of us
to thrive inside of that. And I think that that's a lot of why people don't try new things is because they're comparing their progress or their, you know, skill set to like someone else down the road that has put energy and time into it. And that's like advice that I wish I could go back and like give my younger self is like, find a fucking hobby, something that you became really good at, whether it was like an instrument or a sport or some type of extracurricular activity
or whatever. That's what the advice I would have given myself because anyone that can thrive in that structure as a child, like the kids who just went to school all day and then went to practice and didn't get home till late, like they're used to that. I bet those people work harder. I bet a lot of the people in that arena have good solid foundations in their routine because that's been embedded
into them. And I do feel like, you know, as humans, we set here and we have like a puzzle that we've been putting together our whole life with pieces that were just handed to us. And like, you get down to the end of the puzzle and you realize that you're missing like 15 pieces and you don't even know where they're at. Like you don't even know where the pieces are. And I think that's exploring things for the first time.
And a lot of people want to gatekeep that, especially in the spiritual realm or it really in almost the music realm, the beauty realm. You know, everyone somehow wants to gatekeep. Like they're teaching you something on a video, but they're only giving you so much or they're not giving you the trade secret or they're not really giving you the full picture. And I think so many people go into something like the beauty industry or some type of trade or job or.
Profession because they see it working for other people and that's what I see in spirituality. It's like, well, that's how they read or that's how they do it. I want to do it like that. And because you're not doing it like that, it's easy to feel like, well, I don't know how I'm not good at this, I suck or whatever. But really, maybe you're meant to receive the messages differently or in a more subconscious way or in dreams or something like that. Like I'll hear people say they
have prophetic dreams. I don't really have dreams like that. I have really weird dreams that like will highlight a couple of things that are happening in my life, but they never really like, make sense or something, you know? But then other people have really clear dreams. So I don't know.
I just think we all are trying to do different things and we need to let that be what it is. The thing too about like the gatekeeping thing and, and why I just, I dislike it so much is the fact that even if you tell somebody exactly how you're doing every single thing and you give them the layout and the road map and, and this is what I do, you know, for our businesses, this is what I do for marketing.
And this is, you know, where I learned these things and, and somebody follows the exact same thing. It doesn't mean that they're going to get the same audience as you. It doesn't mean that just because you did those exact same things that you're going to be taking something away from somebody. And it's this. And I feel like it goes back to that like lack mindset and that fear based mindset people have of like, and also like insecurity.
Oh, well, if this person knows the secrets about this or, or gets the road map, they're going to take something away from me. And never have I looked at like watched a movie and been like, wow, that actress is so amazing. And then thought, you know, oh, I bet you they're taking away all the opportunities from this
person over here. Like, you know, you can have multiple people who thrive in the same areas of things and are reaching completely different people and and reaching the peak in their own individual unique ways without their needing to be a competition for things. There's plenty for everybody. Yeah, but the Internet I think is just peaked like competition and everyone like, oh, I'm competing for views, for likes,
for clients, for this. Like, you know, I think a lot of people are in the mindset of like, well, there's so many hairdressers or is there so many tarot readers or there's so many electricians or whatever. You know, like people start new businesses every single day that someone else has been doing for 100 years, for 50 years. And every single day they're bringing something different. And I think that is a perspective that everyone should simmer on.
Like you said, like it's going to be two totally different things. Even if you're using all the same tools, like no one's going to build the house the same way because you have the same tools like you know it's your house to build. But what's stupid about it to me is like, you know, somebody who is a wonderful hairdresser, they learned from somebody else. They apprenticed, they went to school, they, they got knowledge and downloads from somebody
else. And we're taught all of these basic fundamentals of things and given advice. And then they had to go out and they had to build it for themselves and, you know, work on that skill. And it's the same with literally anything else. Anybody who is doing anything was taught that thing by somebody else. Because at this point, there is nothing that is brand new and genius that you are just fucking creating out of the ether that in some way hasn't been founded
by somebody else. You may have this unique spin on it and something that you're doing that's that's completely new and authentic to you, but you didn't design that entire concept and industry yourself. And you know what's crazy about that is I recently attended a workshop and it was basically like a selling workshop, but it was meant to like boost your selling skills. But what we call this workshop is typically just like spin selling.
It's the same shit that any workshop about selling teaches you. But when you say spin selling, they're spinning it uniquely in their own direction. But the end result is you sell your product or you sell your item. It's the same probably workshop that like MLM's all meet when they're like retreat with the girlies and they're in those like big convention rooms where they had to pay their own room and board and food to come to it. That's what they're teaching you
all it's been selling. And so I went to a workshop recently and it was like a 2 day full on montage of this and I'm talking like 2 full packed days. And it was so just like repetition of like other concepts you've learned, whether it was selling lemonade or, you know, selling a product in any
way. Anyone who's ever made it has two years of entrepreneurial, like, you know, aspirations, whether you started a business or not, like you, you've learned these concepts or you've, you've seeing these concepts, But you know, they'll fancy it up and give you like a workbook and give you all these presentations and all these little group break off projects and then have the audacity to send you a survey afterwards and ask you what you thought about it.
So I made sure to let them know that like absolutely anyone who's been doing sales for more than five years would never need to attend this. So like, don't even ask them because anyone who's been doing a sales job for more than five years would not eat, not need this, you know what I mean? And it was like $3000 a person to do this. Yeah, did you pay $3000 for this? No, it was for work but. So your work paid $3000 for
this? They paid probably about 50,000 after everybody went and everybody stayed and everybody had dinner. You want to hear this, I'm going to tell you about the sales thing. So I have been in the chiropractic industry for a long time and I got certified in being a chiropractic assistant, which basically means that I did chiropractic education through the Board of Chiropractic whatever.
To be able to give people care plans for chiropractic care and be able to give them care plans, explain the basics and basically be able to sell them care plans and tell them why they need it. So there's this company called Cairo Biz and they have a Cairo Biz Academy. And one of my old bosses flew me down to, I think we went to San Diego and we went to like the Big Bear Lodge I think is what it's called.
And we had this convention for like 4 or five days where they sit you down and they not only teach you like the basics of like chiropractic care, but how to scare people into signing up for chiropractic care. And so like, there's different phases of degeneration that like your spine goes through or whatever, which is like exactly what it sounds like. And so you'd sit there and it would be OK. So you're going to, you need somebody to sign up for this
$3000 care plan. So you're going to let them know about this phase of degeneration that they're in. And when they have a rebuttal about this, this is what your response is going to be. And when they say they can't afford it, this is what your response is going to be. And it was, I shit you not, it was like 5 days of going through any single conversation that you could have with somebody where they would be like, but I don't want that care. And you're like, but This is why you need it.
Do you really want your whole spine to deteriorate? And like, if you don't get this done now, like you're just going to move on to the next phase and you're not going to be able to walk. And like, and I shit you not, that's exactly what it was. And it was these like fucking fear, fear based things. So I get this like you also learn about like, you know, being able to structure like a payment plan for somebody and break it down like, Oh yeah, it's $3000. But we'll see you, you know, for
two years. And so this is what it's going to break down to. And oh, well, if you pay the whole thing right now, you can have this percentage. And when I went back to the office after I have this certificate, my boss at the time had me sit in AI, had patients come in that I had to present this care plan to. And he literally put a tape recorder in the office and was having me tape record so that he could listen to them and tell me how I should change up my tactic of talking to people.
And I got in trouble one time because this lady came in and I was talking to her and she's like, I just feel very uncomfortable here. I feel like it's a very, you know, this room is a really small room. Your chair is higher than my chair. And I feel like you're like looking down at me and whatever. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that you feel that way. I like lowered my chair and I was like, that is not my
intention at all. Like I just literally didn't realize that the chair was taller, but I, I felt so uncomfortable leaving that space. And the boss listened to that thing and was mad at me because like, you should have taken the things that you had learned in that seminar and you should have closed the deal with her. And we lost thousands of dollars because you didn't close that deal with her. And you were apologizing for things and whatever. And I quit shortly after that.
He also told me that I didn't qualify for a raise because I had just had a baby. And he said that that he expects women who are doing marketing and the face of his company to be thin and in shape and that having a baby is not an excuse for a woman to not be able to bounce their body right back. And so he put down on my review specifically that he would not do my raise due to not what did it say due to improper
postpartum physique. So I quit and I've thought over the years like I should have fucking skewed the fucking balls off of him, but I didn't. And he only had women that work for him and he was super fucking weird and he was hella rude to his wife and it was a whole fucking thing and I could have taken him to the cleaners but I didn't. So, Doctor Coleman, go fuck yourself.
You know also how many other companies use the scare tactic selling, which I learned about that in a marketing class in college. There's like 10 different marketing techniques and fear tactic is one of them to basically fear based get someone to buy something. So that's what they do with like, you know, inflation and stuff. They like make things scarce so that everyone will go buy them, which drives the price artificial, artificially, artificially up.
But what's really crazy about it is I do believe that like our mind lives in a fear based state at all times, whether it's like fear of survival, fear of death, fear, fear, fear, fear of anything. And I think that we're constantly drawing in those experiences that constantly reinforce that. So like you said earlier, like the universe will humble you quickly once you are taking
advantage of people. But another arena that that happens a lot is I worked at a heating and air company and that's how their salesman all make 6 figures, all of them that sell furnaces because they all like, because the people who install the furnaces are different than the people who sell the furnaces to you and come to your home in their company vehicle. They're selling you the item and then the installers get the item from the hub and come install your unit. So they use fear a lot,
especially with older people. And the company that I was working for at the time used to do this like constantly fear based. And I got in trouble on a recorded call because I told the lady, like the salesman had told her, that she had to replace her whole unit because nothing was under warranty. But her unit was not under warranty, but she had parts in labor. So the parts to fix the fucking unit and the labor to fix it was covered, but the unit itself was out of warranty.
And he convinced her because the unit itself may have just like a factory warranty of something whatever. Then you get an extended warranty that covers parts and labor. And she had bought that, she had paid for that. So although yes what he said was true, he made her believe that like if something breaks down in the middle of winter, it's going to cost her money rather than it
would be covered 100%. So this lady was calling in to finance a new unit, a full like $10,000 setup and I was like you don't like he had already sold it and she called in to schedule the install and I was like why are you buying a new unit? Your unit has parts and labor for 10 years. And she's like what does that mean? I'm like what I just explained. And she was like no, he told me
it's not in warranty. So I ended up getting in trouble for that for breaking down this lady's true warranty and her not buying a $10,000 unit that day. See, and us ethical bitches get to live with ourselves at the end of the day and put ourselves into different career fields where we get to actually like build ourselves and build other people by doing the right thing.
And by being transparent with people and honest with them and helping them to be able to have that, like listen to their own intuition about things and do the right thing and remove themselves from spaces that are no longer serving them and are taking advantage of them in the same way that like, we've been trained to take advantage of other people. Which is just like just the strangest fucking concept to me.
That company actually ended up getting a class action lawsuit against them because some people like put one together and they ended up getting in big trouble and like had to rebrand and stuff. So I do believe like being right, being at the right place at the right time is key. Knowing the right people is key, but just doing the right thing when no one is looking is major key because you can't just
create opportunity. But if you are pure hearted and you have pure intentions, the universe creates opportunity for you. And I think that so often we settle in spaces because other people around us are comfortable in those spaces. Like, well, my parents always have lived here, so you know, I must stay here. Or well, I grew up in a trailer, so you know, I'm fine staying in a trailer or whatever, like never wanting more because the space that you've been put into is comfort.
Like you've created comfort there, even though that's not your final destination. Some people are willing to stay there or like settle in that energy. And the universe is constantly like trying to help you course correct, whether they're like derailing your plans or, you know, nail in the tire kind of energy. But it's like the universe will keep blocking things that don't serve you. It's us that keep pushing and
pulling and touching the fire. Pretending like it's not burning you is the reason we're getting hurt. You know, the universe isn't punishing people. It's our daily actions and choices that lead us down whichever path. And you know, some people are willing to bat an eye when it benefits them. So you got to remember that. They got to remember, you know, read the room and some people want to see you down.
Something I've been saying to myself privately and publicly is I thrive outside of my comfort zone. And that is something that I, I have been repeating to myself. I've been putting it into videos, I've been speaking it into the universe. I include that in my affirmations because you don't grow and do more inside of your comfort zone. You need to remove yourself from
the areas where you are. We talk about having stagnant energy and sometimes stagnant energy is just because you're doing the same thing all of the time. You can't see different directions. You can't see more opportunity. You can't receive more because you are hosting along. And we all have like pieces in our life where we need to coast on where we are in, you know, jobs that we don't want to be in, but they're paying our bills or they're the only opportunity that we have at the moment.
But you have to make yourself uncomfortable to remove yourself from those spaces so that you can have more and so that you can do more. And there are people who are completely happy with where they're at because it's more than what they used to have. And so it must be amazing and it must be great. But you can always do more and
strive for more. And the only way that you're going to be able to do that is by putting yourselves inside of the spaces that allow you to grow and allow you to blossom. And you know, if you are in situations in your life where your abundance does come from taking advantage of other people, whether it be the sales industry or it or it be, you know, just you hustling on the street or whatever it is, if that's the way that you build yourself up, that eventually
comes crashing down. Because whether you believe in karma or you know, the law of cause and effect or whatever, you end up getting back the same energy that you put out. And you know, an example of that too, because I feel like people
roll their eyes at that. But like, if you are somebody who is constantly going out and, you know, feeding people on the street or taking care of people that you're seeing or stopping and lending a hand or whatever, then a moment happens when your car breaks down, you're in a bad part of town or whatever. Those people that you've been taking care of and, and going down and, and assisting and helping, they're going to be the
ones who jump in and help you. So by not judging where other people are and by giving out that energy and, and what you have, because you have it and you're able to, it turns around and it blesses you in ways that you don't expect it to or that seem really small or unrealistic at the time. And some people do good things because they want good things to
happen to them. And some people do good things because this is what my character is and what I feel led to do. And I don't know how this is going to bless me in the future, but it is. And there's a difference between the two. And I think that, you know, that's a part of growing and learning too, is doing things. The right thing because it's what feels right in your spirit and not because you think that there's going to be some outcome from it.
Exactly. And I think the universe knows when you have pure intentions or when you're doing this in hopes of coming up down the road. You know, I am really big on, I hate asking people for things. So I like to secure all of my bases and then when I'm invited or when something like turns to be in my favor, it's because I was invited, not because I didn't like, not because I wasn't like prepared.
I guess like that's where I think a lot of people can't accept blessings because when a blessing arise, they're like, oh, no, it's fine. It's good. Someone's like, oh, I'm going to cover your dinner or oh, I'm going to fill up your gas tank. And people's first bet is normally like, oh, no, it's fine. Oh, no, oh, don't do that, You know, don't do that. But for me, like I try to give freely and later receive as well, you know, like you know, you've seen it.
So the reason that I'm, the reason I'm laughing about it is because I'm just thinking about when we went to Utah together and I would like to make your plate or whatever if I was making food. And he would absolutely be like, oh, yeah, I'll take that. Absolutely. Like, make my plate, mommy, Like, yeah, make my food. Like it's totally fine. And then we had somebody who the whole time was like, no, I don't want you doing that. No, it's OK. No, I'll do it myself.
And then was mad because you had openly received. And it was that like, I was pampering you. But like, baby, you had the opportunity to be pampered too. And you are in your receiving energy. And so instead you got jealous instead of being open to receiving that. And that's just something so funny. You absolutely are open to receiving and you have perfected the art of just being able to sit back and if somebody wants to take care of you or whatever,
you're like absolutely. But the side part of that is that you're 1000% the same way, just in your own way. Like, maybe you're not like making my plate and doing different things, but you give in so many other ways and encourage other people to just like, receive whatever blessings are being given to them. But I don't think that maybe you get enough like recognition and praise for that because it's not
like a physical thing. Like whereas I might like make a plate of food or whatever and be like here, like I'm going to feed you. I feel like you'll sit on the phone and, and you'll talk and listen to me for like a fucking hour and a half about some crazy shit and not expect anything in return. And, and never throw in my face the fact that like, well, you sat there and listened, but I can't answer the phone right now while you're calling me.
Like there's nothing that has ever like put back on me because you've held space. And that's something very rare to have in other people. Usually people are listening just because they're wanting you to do that same thing for them in the future, if that makes sense. So you provide so many different things and receive and give in so many different ways. You know, I literally and like really big on like wanting to do something because I want to do
it, not because it's expected. If I want to do something, if I want to invite you or give you a, an invite to something or, or bring you somewhere, or it's because I genuinely want you there. And if I'm willing to pay for you to be there, like I really want you to come. And I'm not doing that because I want you to pay me back or feel
like you owe me something. So I think a lot of people, especially friends that I've had, have had a difficult time, like receiving any good things coming their way, whether it's hey, I got an extra ticket or hey, I bought you this or hey, do you want to go to dinner. So many people are quick to block a blessing. Like very.
So many people don't say thank you for the blessing that you give them and they, you know, and, and you can even say like, I feel like I, I did these things genuinely because I just want to do it, but I feel like you don't appreciate or acknowledge that I did these things.
And so I feel like that's really the difference between being somebody who is open to receiving a blessing and being somebody who takes advantage of a blessing and takes advantage of people who are willing to give a blessing. Because all day, every day, you can open up your home, your space, your kitchen, your energy, whatever anybody needs.
But if you're not being told that that's appreciated and having some type of an acknowledgement and a validation, then it really does feel like just being taken advantage of. And so many friendships and relationships have a fallout because somebody is so freely giving just because they feel like that's what they want to do in the right thing. And when you don't receive any gratitude for that in any form, then it's like, well, you just
took advantage. So yeah, I did that with no expectation, but like I did expect some some type of energy reciprocation or thank you at the end of the day. I'm really big on saying thank you. I feel like just energetic appreciation is so important. And I feel like I'm really big on just like thank you even for something small. Like even if it's like expected that you would do that, still thank you.
You know, like I feel like, you know, a lot of people don't realize, but like choosing to love someone is a choice. Choosing to be with someone, choosing to support someone, all of those things are choices, but you have to also give that same love and appreciation to your yourself or you're always going to be feeling left out or left behind or left, you know, jaded at the end of the day because you cannot get all of your fulfillment or satisfaction from giving to others without giving
to yourself. And that's where I see a lot of people lose their identity and their relationships or with their children or in their job because they're so used to just giving and giving and giving and leaving nothing for themselves.
Whereas to the outside looking in, some people may think that I'm a little selfish or, you know, like I know some people are like, wow, so you just do whatever you want all the time or you, you know, you don't listen to anyone or whatever it may be. And like I this. Says that to you. People say that. People. People.
Fuck them up. People say that, but I mean, I'm not saying they're calling me selfish, but I'm saying the perception of when someone really loves and takes care of themselves is sometimes people don't can see that as being selfish. Like oh, you're going to put your needs before my needs? Selfish. Oh, you love yourself selfish. Oh, you're posting cute pics of yourself? Selfish, you know, or self absorbed even as well. That's such an interesting
perspective. So like, I've had conversations behind the scenes where people have, you know, talked about how different that you and I are because, you know, I have different responsibilities than you do with, like, being a parent, being whatever. And I have always been like, yeah, But she's like, she's like free to like do whatever the fuck she wants to do. Like we we have the same like morals and the same grounded groundedness. Is that a word? Groundedness?
I think that I'm going to say the fucking word and like groundedness inside of things. But I have never thought that you being yourself and being flamboyant with your personality or putting yourself out there or going on trips or whatever is somehow you thinking that you're better than anybody or being irresponsible or being selfish or anything else.
And I think that at the end of the day, if somebody thinks those things about you with what you do, if, if genuinely, if somebody sees you post a picture of yourself or go on a trip and just thinks, Oh my gosh, she's so selfish because she's always going on trips or posting about herself. I, I think that that really comes down to a jealousy of the fact that they're not going on trips and that they don't have the confidence to be posting themselves or minding their own
fucking business. And at the end of the day, any like these hands can go to anybody and I don't know why it triggers my fucking spirit. And I've always talked about it. But when people say negative things about you and how you show yourself and express yourself, it makes me so
genuinely angry. Because I feel like it is people who are fucking insecure and who do not know about themselves and who think, Oh my goodness, a a confident woman is going to put pictures of themselves out or going to do, you know, whatever. Imagine the fucking uproar if you started popping your pussy on Only fans. Could you imagine how angry some people would be angry. Some people would be
subscribing. Some people would be angry and subscribing and I just, I wait for the fucking day when you decide that that's your life path. Because I think that even if you just did an OS and you showed pictures inside of your home or of your car, somebody would have so much shit to talk about it. I think that the best way to describe the world right now is the people who are at the top are collaborating. We've talked about that before.
People are at the bottom are just self medicating somewhere with drugs and alcohol or food or, or some type of addiction porn, it doesn't matter. And then the people in the middle are like stuck between like, what do I do and what what don't I want to do? Like, you know, like it's like, which way are you going to go? Are you going to go up? Are you going to stay the same? Are you going to go down?
You know, I just think that everyone's got to make the decision to make the changes they want to make. Maybe I don't like the way I look or I don't like the way I dress. I want to have a makeover. I want to, you know, get tattooed or change my hair or whatever. It's like, you've got to make that decision. Like I've been feeling a change of like, I need a new tattoo. I need something like, I need something that's going to change me like quick.
And I think that, like, I go in those waves of like, preserving who I am and like appreciating who I am and then wanting to change and expand who I am as well. But I don't know. I think that the Internet, especially confident women on the Internet, trigger insecure men. Oh, it triggers insecure women too. It it triggers people who want
competition. And also Speaking of that, like collaboration energy, there's a difference between wanting to collaborate with somebody and wanting somebody to use their platform for you so that you can gain something off of it. And I feel like you and I have both experienced that.
We've experienced it privately. We've experienced it on the podcast where it's people who don't actually like us, but think that there's something that we as a unit are going to be offering to them and that they don't have to put anything into it. But I, but I specifically think about it and I know we mentioned her a lot, but because I saw somebody posting something about Bunny's podcast and about like, well, I'm here doing this and she's not putting me on her
platform and whatever. And like I would be great for her brand. And I, it was a TikTok video and I scrolled past. I actually blocked the person. I've never seen them before in my life, but I never care to again. But I saw that and I was just like, damn, there's so many people out here who like would love to be on that just to be able to have a conversation with her, whether it be on the podcast or not.
Because they recognize her energy and they want to have a collaboration with just like that energetic exchange. And then you have people who just want to be put somewhere and believe that they deserve this and they'll shit talk to you because you haven't given this to them and feel completely validated in that enough that they will. They will record the video, they'll rewatch the video, they'll edit the video, and then they'll post the video.
And you have to be so firm in your fucking audacity and entitlement for that. And I, I just don't understand that energy. I literally say that like Audacity is probably the only thing that they're giving out for free these days because everybody seems to have stocked the fuck up on it. So I know it's got to be free. And it's just the audacity to think that someone who has built their brand from the ground fucking up owes you anything.
Whether they are a multi $1,000,000 platform or a freaking $2.00 platform, if they built the platform from themselves, there is no way in hell that you're coming up up and taking this microphone and making it about you. You know what I mean? But like, I see that a lot, especially from bigger people. I feel like when bigger people started to come on to Bunny's podcast, I started to see the claws come out of like, this can help you, I'm helping you.
I have more followers than you or I'm doing this for you kind of thing, you know, and that's happened to us, which I'm just going to say, I love women supporting women, but there are so many people who just want to be included because they think it's going to benefit them, but they have no regard to helping or benefiting you at all. No regard to anything about you or your platform. They didn't do any research into your platform. And this is not just us
personally. This is like a broad statement that like, be careful who you collaborate with, even the people who are like content creators only because they want to make, you know, sexy time perfect. But be careful who you connect with because herpes is forever. Like this shit's real out here. It doesn't matter which way you're connecting. These people want to use and manipulate you probably 95% of the time. So you got to find those 5% of the people that are going to
actually ride and support you. And it's few and far in between, you know? Speaking of Bunny, she was so gracious enough to give these free meet and greets for the Patreon. But I've seen so many TikTok videos where people are acting like 5 year old children at these meet and greets like acting very, very fake and just acting as if they are being owed something rather than they are
being being granted this gift. And that's the one thing that I want to say is if something comes your way and you don't see it as a gift, you will be starved of blessings. Like you need to see that whether it's a front row parking spot gift or if it's all my bills are paid gift or if it's just my kids went to school and came home today gift. Everything is a gift. And when people start seeing that, they will shift their perception.
And buddy even gave you 2 minutes of her time gift, let alone her give you her platform and, and and those types of things. And that's why, you know, I'll forever be grateful for her because she, I know, is a true person. Despite how the Internet wants to paint her, she is real to herself and real to her brand. The same thing that she said. I don't want to just advertise any type of product. If I don't actually like the product, I won't advertise it, sorry.
Yeah, and I, you know, she had posted on her, her Patreon recently about she wasn't going to be able to go to a couple of the meet and greets on tour. Like she wasn't going to be able to be there for a couple of dates. And she's like, I'm really sorry this huge opportunity came to me. I'm, I'm really trying to get myself into like the TV industry and this huge opportunity passed up that like I cannot miss out on.
And I saw TikTok videos and comments on her Patreon of people like complaining about it and like, you know, that she's doing some disservice and that they've supported her and she's just, you know, leaving them to rot. And if you have truly supported her or somebody else, and you're there because you love them and not because you just think that you're owed something, you would be so fucking excited for that person that they're getting this opportunity that they fucking
work for. You would be so excited for Bunny that she went from being an escort and literally having to do things that she didn't want to do in order to survive, to now building all of this for herself and being given these fucking opportunities and expecting nothing back except for you to understand that she can't make it to a show.
And the thing about that is, she always respectfully tells people to fuck off in the most respectful way of if the only reason you joined my Patreon was because you thought you were going to get to meet me for free, then fuck you, I don't want you here. Bye TTYL. And I thought that was so classy because at the end of the day I felt that in my soul. For one, she could sell you a meet and greet at $200.00 and you would pay that flat rate
across the board. The meet and greets if you paid annually was less than $200.00 and you got a year worth of content and the backlog of content. So it's like don't even come for the queen when she's already set you up to succeed. She's already set you up in little chat rooms and groups and you're making friends and y'all are having a good time. And then now she's the problem because she's going to grow and put herself in in her career first. It's so selfish.
And I think that's with anything. If your friend, your family, your partner has an opportunity, whether it's to, you know, go to the moon or the most amazing opportunity in in their career that they've ever seen, support them, like support them, encourage them. Don't weigh out all the ways it's going to affect you where you're going to work more. Oh, now you got to travel more. Oh, now you're not going to be home on my birthday.
You know, one time I had to go on a work trip on ex boyfriend's birthday. And at work trips, you do the meetings and then in the evening work pays for you to have fun basically because they know you're there. You're stuck there. We all as a team building unit went bowling. My Co worker was a male. It was the only Co worker I had at the seminar. It's the only person I knew. And my ex was so furious that we went bowling with a bunch of like just other other people at
this workshop. It wasn't anyone special because it was his birthday. I mean was fired up over it and I was literally at the local bowling alley and some small town in Illinois stuck at a hotel with. Wearing some dirty ass clown shoes with your fingers and some dirty bowling ball and he's like, why aren't you here? You know, it's just like one of those things where it's like people will take your success or your opportunities as a personal attack against them. That's all the line.
I tell you a fun fact, I have been subscribed to Bunny's top tiers of her Patreon for I don't know since she had Patreon. Even if I'm not watching any of the fucking podcast episodes because I'm not interested in any of the guests. Simply to give back to her for the fact that I wouldn't know you or have this podcast if it hadn't been for her.
Just out of an appreciation and a support to somebody for influencing the energy inside of my life without even meaning to, and for just having like authenticity and being a genuine
person. So the concept to me that people put themselves inside of things and inside of areas simply to absorb whatever fucking healing energy or energy or whatever it is that they can in the hopes that they're going to get recognition or get something out of it is just, it's the weirdest fucking concept to me. And maybe like you and I are just very loyal people about things.
And if we ride for people or we love people or we have an appreciation for people, we pour ourselves into that, whether it be on a collaboration aspect or a supporting somebody else or you and I have booked readings with people that like, we don't necessarily even really want a reading from. We just want to support you and like your gift and your business and what I'm not, but like not that like, you know, they're a
negative person. So we don't want a reading, but just like sometimes like we're not even looking for that guidance. We just are like, I fucking believe in you. Here's this and you and I, I don't think people even realize that, Like you and I, if we're gonna like get readings and time from each other, we pay each other for that. We don't just go, oh, you're my friend. Can you go and pull some cards? Like, no, I book a reading with you.
If I want an e-mail reading from you or if I want a session with you, you're on Patreon. You know what I mean? Like, there's, there's just different fucking things. And giving people appreciation for the energy that they're exuding and that you are receiving is so important. I think just reciprocation in all ways will have you feeling
so rejuvenated. If you're feeling tired or drained or angry, irritable, all of those things, Look at where you have loosens, where you're over giving, you're overextending. And I know some people have children, so I know that takes a toll. But like, let's look at the family members. Let's look at the people around you that expect you to host the party because you have a pool, or expect you to drive because
you have an SUV. I used to always say that I loved A2 door car because no one ever asks me to drive anywhere ever. Period. Period. So you know, I just feel like read the room when it comes to why am I allowing this to happen? Why am I allowing people to drain me and leave nothing left for myself? Is my worth dependent on other people to tell me about myself? Thank you so much for doing that. Or that's so great. Or do you see how great you are without that external validation?
And I think that's important, especially in any arena, especially the Internet, to realize that this is just someone else's best highlights. And your low moments are not being documented either. So see that there is a flow. You know, you're not going to be up forever, but you're not going to be down forever either. So, you know, finding that balance. Do you want to? Pull a card, pull a human. Yeah. Also while I shuffle this card just.
OK, just to touch on the fact that I literally left my whole ass fucking job and I'm out here raw jogging in these streets because remove yourself from situations where your energy is not appreciated. And I just felt like although the money was great or and I was getting benefit from it, I felt like I was constantly being asked to do more than I was being appreciated for. And that anytime that I gave more, it was expected that I would add more on top of that to
the point that it didn't. I just felt so stressed to make things happen for other people, for it to be not appreciated that I removed myself from the space. So with that being said, the things that we talk about on this podcast inside of our space, the advice that you get during readings, we take that own and I take that own advice and apply it to our fucking lives. And it's not just something that gets just regurgitated to you.
And we're like, don't know how it's going to work out for you, but like do this and like, leave it squandering. Like that's real shit. And we remove ourselves from situations that don't serve us, regardless of if it's jobs or relationships or environments or friendships all the fucking time. And you got card 47 for the chameleon, the Sinus Virgo. This would be Paige's second Virgo card of the day. This actually is the number 1147. The gift is versatility and your
shadow is bondage. At the higher frequencies of this gift, your fears lose their devilish grins and you see them for what they are, symbols. Every symbol in your reality has an underlying meaning, and with every meaning a message. It is your mission to decipher the writings on your walls. From here you gain access to all of life's mysteries. You release yourself from the handcuffs of self-imposed limitation, a fixed identity, a label, a career path, an image.
You are no thing and no one. You are everything. The sunset and the chameleon, the collective unconscious slips into each individuated experience, coloring aspects of your lifetime in such a way that reflects our greatest and deepest fears. As unique beings within the larger whole, we each grapple with our own distinct, prominent shadows, and the more that we attempt to deny or repress them, the more they loom in our peripheral.
What occurs in your outer world is an extension of your inner landscape. What demons are you holding hostage? Witness them, hold the chains and set your devils free. Making peace with your humanness, complete with its afflictions and darkness, is the only route to salvation. Your themes are spaciousness, fluidity, dynamism, and symbols. Beautiful. I love the Pamilion because chameleons like can blend and like really just like become one with their environment.
And I think that's important is like to know the environment that you're in, whether it's going to foster your growth or stutter. Growth is such a dynamic that takes self accountability and being real with yourself. I know this person isn't good with good for me, but I'm going to go live with them and I'm going to go date them. You're self sabotaging now. You're the problem. You're allowing this or OK, I know this is bad for me.
I know I shouldn't drink, but I'm just going to go to the bar and have one drink and next thing you know you've had 10. You know, like knowing how to read the room and which environment is best for you is being like the chameleon. The chameleon is going to adapt and to allow itself to blend with the environment where it can feel safe and protected.
And I think that's a true message of like, do more of the things that bring you joy, that bring you peace and that bring you freedom and do less of the other things. Then your life just gets better. It just then it just boom boom boom better. More better. More better. We love you all. We'll see you all in Candy Land next time. Bye. So she's so sweet. Like a lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, lollipop, lollipop. You want to live me Like a lollipop, lollipop, lollipop.
You want to swallow my spirit and penetrate my aura. My consciousness is obvious. We're goddesses full of the divine femininity who need masculine energy, energy, energy. You want to.