¶ Intro / Opening
Justin: That you can line up with a legitimate version of the film.
¶ Introduction to Party Girl
Justin: So that way this won't be such an issue, but we'll try it anyway. Justin: Three, two, one, go. Justin: Okay. Jay: They don't do like production company intros like this anymore. Justin: They don't? I don't really notice. Sadie: We lost something when they stopped. Jay: Yeah. Justin: It's because I'm mostly watching older movies with you So every time I see a Justin: new movie It's from like 1987.
Jay: Don't read me like this James got called out You'll watch Orson Welles movies and you'll like it, Jay: But, Jay: I fucking love Lady Bunny. Justin: I love this animation It's always so ball fighter for the Sega Genesis animation. Jay: Apparently Parker Posey plays this southern lady in White Lotus or something. Jay: And everyone's all obsessed with her. And I'm like, bitch, go watch Party Girl. Justin: Yeah, because people know this movie. It's not just librarians who love this movie.
Jay: Yeah, my roommate loves this movie. Justin: Yeah. Justin: There she is. Justin: Thank you, Anna. Sadie: Bye, babe. Jay: I want to know whose aunt was a librarian and inspired them to make this movie. Justin: Yeah, I think it wasn't... I don't know if it was anyone's... Justin: Because we looked this up when we did the Party Girl episode. Justin: The one thing that I like is... Justin: I thought I'd find him. Carl. But yeah, like, a lot of the clothes were,
Justin: like, borrowed and all the people in the party scenes are just local clubbers and stuff. It's... Jay: Yeah. Justin: It's very charming. Jay: Yeah, but I'm just like, why did they pick librarians? You know, that's what I meant. Justin: Yeah. I've never been able to, like, figure figure out who was like related Justin: to a librarian i think they were just like no this is it just the opposite of being.
Jay: A party girl is being a librarian i guess if i. Justin: Had the money i would give it to you i just i like how this movie is about like Justin: a straight relationship and then everything about it everything else about it Justin: is gay like if you describe this movie on a paper, Justin: it's like a former teacher and a library page fall in love, and the happy ending is grad school. Justin: You wouldn't expect the rest of this movie. Justin: Guillermo Diaz is so fun in this movie.
Justin: I don't know if it's because he's so young, but I feel like they could have Justin: gotten a little more out of him. Justin: Every time I rewatch it, I'm like, yeah, he could have been a little like a Justin: love rival or something. Justin: A little more, Justin: Pyrated video cassettes, Justin: I love it, that's one of the charges I know Sadie. Jay: I was just looking at them. Sadie: They're great Half my commentary on this is just going to be the close I mean that's valid.
Jay: You're so valid This is a fashion run, Jay: Mary? Mary your goddaughter Mary. Justin: Mary prison but it won't happen again, Justin: the. Jay: Listeners can't see but I gagged by this outfit that Parker Posey's wearing, Jay: little rainbow purse. Sadie: I like how she has to hold the thing closed Like the leopard print jacket. Justin: Excuse, Justin: They put toothpicks in falafel.
Jay: Don't put toothpicks in your falafel dude These white gentrifiers of falafel Jay: Can I have a falafel with hot sauce A side order of baba ganoush and a seltzer Please Hold the tube I. Sadie: Love baba ganoush. Jay: I love baba ganoush. Sadie: Still 99 cents Do you like this kind of music? Jay: Sure, what kind of music? I like that kind of music It's. Justin: From the Middle East It's a very sad, very beautiful song Thanks.
Jay: Hey, Turkish Delight. Are you from Turkey? Me, no. I'm from Lebanon. Jay: So where's Lebanese Delight? You want Lebanese Delight? Yeah, I do. Jay: If it's him. The way you say Lebanon in Arabic is Lubnan. Fun fact. Sadie: The graffiti-fronted library. Jay: Is your Arabic fun fact with Jay? there will be several of those in this episode, Jay: kids. Excuse me, could you tell me where I could find Judy Lindendorf? Jay: Lindendorf is such a great last name.
Jay: Sounds like a type of cheese. Hannah Arendt, the historian. Of course. Justin: Over there you'll find the 300s social... I like how they choose what books Justin: they bring up in the movie directly to show people's personalities. Jay: Hannah Arendt. Justin: Excuse me, where's Hannah Arendt? Justin: And then she's obsessed with Camus. Jay: Okay, 100 bucks Now that should do until my cash flow situation. Justin: Clears up 80 80 Her enemy. Sadie: The stink eye. Justin: In the TV show.
Jay: I love her fucking cravat. Justin: It's like a I got a pearl clasp it's a cravat pin you swine, Justin: how does it function what does it do. Jay: It pins, Jay: it's like a tie pin. Justin: I am not a waitress alright then why don't you try to get a job at a cleaning Justin: shop do you realize how broke I am what. Jay: European political thought in general, or is it a particular vendetta against Jay: Hannah Arendt? Excuse me. Hannah Arendt.
Sadie: Every single Hannah Arendt book on the shelf was out of sequence. Jay: I am so sorry. Sequence. It's like, on the ass, it's like sequence. Sadie: What a dick. He's not a dick. Jay: This is why libraries don't like to collect manga. Because things get out of Jay: sequence. to pay them a competitive wage. Justin: They make more money at McDonald's. He's not a dick. He's a patron. Jay: Yeah, he's a dick. Yeah. Sadie: Not mutually exclusive, actually.
Justin: You think I couldn't be a librarian? It's a good way of looking at it, Justin: though. We love our patrons. Jay: And also their dicks, you know? Sadie: Yep. Jay: Even a clerk will merely shelves and stamps. You think I couldn't be a library clerk? Justin: Work in your fucking library i think you're. Sadie: Ashamed of me judy you're my only family and you're ashamed of me fine you can Sadie: start right now fine i will great wanda this is my goddaughter mary she's our newest clerk.
Justin: In the tv show they they i assume you're familiar with they just do something Justin: so strange with their dynamic. Jay: I want them to kiss. Justin: Which is already strange in this movie. Dun, dun, dun. Jay: Libraries are a prison. This is me going in Foucault mode. Justin: Mm-hmm. Ooh, get another joke. Ghouls are a prison. Justin: Libraries are a prison. And then it just goes... Justin: Can you believe me? Justin: The purple and the red always throws me.
Sadie: Something's different. Where'd you put the Gautier jacket? Behind a newly expanded... Jay: Oh, I love Gautier. Sadie: ...section right here, hiding such scavengers as yourself. Jay: And my head's shaking... That's just me. I'm like, where's the Gautier jacket? Sadie: ...like the same dream every night. Maybe I'll rent this place out and start an aerobics center. Sadie: Pack this place in. 20 bucks a head. Mr. Lew's got his rat. Sadie: I've got new clothes. And Leo.
Sadie: And one and two and shoulders back and down and up and up. I thought you did Sadie: a good job. Oh, God, don't remind me. Justin: She just starts treating Leo like a pet. Jay: Yeah, Jay: I can't see you in the library. The head librarian was a friend. Justin: Of my mother. Justin: Did you see she has a matching hat for the leopard coat or cheetah coat? Sadie: That's why she only takes public transportation. Sadie: Don't mix those up. What,
Sadie: Yes, Derek, they're jeans and they're in order. Don't mix them up. Jay: She'd be a great cataloger. Justin: Never mind, it's a flower hat. Jay: Why is his shirt tucked into his pants like that? Justin: He's like a nerd. Jay: The 90s were a mistake. Justin: People used to tell you to tuck your shirt in all the way into the 2000s. Justin: They're just like, should never be untucked.
Jay: This is me at every conference I go to where I dance with the old ladies who Jay: want people to dance with them, but no one does. Jay: At least at music library conferences, there's always like a swing dance, Jay: and then there's always like old ladies that are like, dance, Jay: and nobody wants to dance. So I was like, I'll dance with the old lady. Jay: And then they're like, oh, you're such a good dancer. I'm like, thank you. Justin: Is the music library conferences?
Jay: Yeah, that's what I said. Justin: Okay. I didn't know if he said music conferences or music library, Justin: because I just hear library all the time. Jay: I've never been to a music conference. Justin: Yo, what the fuck, Ash? Moving, man, I'm with her. Oh, yeah, Justin: right. Me off, man. Come on, with her. With the rest of us, motherfucker. Sadie: Nigel, this is Leo. Justin: Leo, Nigel. Oh, they have matching coats. Maybe we met at the shower.
Justin: Shower? What shower? At the party. Remember the shower? Justin: You did it again? What? You pissed at my shower again, Nigel? That's it. It's over. Jay: Exactly. I don't care. Nigel, that's it. It's over. It's over. Why? Justin: Because. The sink was busy. Mm-hmm. Sadie: Nigel, a woman can go out with a guy who's smart, funny, intelligent, and. Jay: By virtue of the fact that she goes out and goes out with a place,
Jay: it's so hard. Fuck, cruisin' for a cruiser. She sounds like those like finance bros. Sadie: I love the little shit eating grin. Sadie: Oh, get him off. Somebody help! Hey! Sadie: Married! Does it mean we're not getting married? Jay: Not getting married today. Thank you for coming to the wedding. Jay: I can never do that Patter song. Jay: Have you seen people do the Not Getting Married Today song from Company? It's insane.
Jay: When you give her the tape, just be very straightforward and don't talk about money. Jay: What's up, Buttercup? The rent, I'm not paying. Why didn't you tell her you Jay: were spinning out of London in the fall? It's a different musical. Jay: I don't know, make something odd. Why did I leave? Jay: We all improvise. You got sick of the London street fashion. Justin: All those hats. Justin: Your tape is good. I'm glad we... She's the one who tells him to say he was in London.
Jay: Yeah. I'm really glad that we got over Electro Swing as a society. Justin: Just don't be with her, and then you talk to her. There's some good remixes Justin: that come through every once in a while. Jay: No. Jay: You can't vote to Elektra Swing. Justin: Leo is me whenever some drunk person in a bar asked me to hold something. Justin: I'm like, this is about to go in the trash. We'll be back. Justin: say? When? Before. I don't remember. Yes, you do. I don't remember.
Justin: The disco ball necklaces. And then you started to say sometimes you can be and Justin: then you stopped. Forget it. Why is he wearing dog tags? Jay: Because it's the 90s. Justin: I'm thinking of that as more as like a post-9-11 thing. Jay: Desert Storm happened in the 90s. Justin: Yeah, I guess that's her. Yeah. I guess that's when that started. Jay: Yeah, that's what wore my dad's event in, is Desert Storm. Justin: Got Desert Storm trading cards.
Jay: I'm glad we don't want to do this shit anymore. You should hear my professor Jay: on the subject. Oh, I can imagine. Jay: Mary had difficulty with the alphabet. Justin: Oh, really? I was six. She'd say... I was six. All your E's looked like threes. She overcame it. Jay: I got to use the microfiche catalog at work to look at scanned catalog cards. It was so cool. Sadie: Nice. Jay: Yeah. I got to have my own little sexy microfiche montage. It was great. Jay: There's one like in my department.
Justin: Were they making cards? Jay: There's something. They were like stamping cards. I think for like ILL or transfers or something. Jay: It's me, Mary. Justin: Okay. Jay: Did she say that right? Jay: They're just speaking like really formally. Sadie: Do you think she got that from the library, guys? Justin: Yeah, that's exactly where she got the idea. Sadie: And she's bending it all the way in half? Justin: This is no good. What are you talking about?
¶ Arabic Greetings and Fun Facts
Jay: So the way you like greet in arabic is you Jay: go sabah here um and Jay: then the other person goes sabahan noor but if Jay: it's at night time you go masakh here and the other person Jay: goes masakh noor would you like some hot sauce with your uh Jay: and then keif or halik or halik is uh like how are you um ik or ak is the ending Jay: that says you no no no no brothers sisters yes me mary is my name is mary she. Justin: Was introducing herself.
Jay: Yeah whoa or Jay: you could go anna is me the e Jay: ending is the personal possessive ism Jay: ism is name so is me is my name and there's no Coppola Coppola in Arabic like Jay: there's not in Japanese so there's no like there kind of is but you don't really say like, Jay: my name is something is just my name and then oh okay here we go Okay, um, Eid. Jay: In modern standard, it's Yed. Jay: I don't remember that one. Eid, yep. It's short. I'm short too, though, right?
Jay: Shvaft. Shvaft. Mouth is also, um, Jay: uh, thumb, something like that. Jay: Dialects are fun. What did we just say? You just agreed to have dinner with me on Friday. Yay. Jay: What's-his-name doesn't she like to? I'm going home. I love this outfit. Sadie: So good.
Jay: Tomorrow night's thing at a rose compoio Wednesday's pubic this is what I'm transitioning into, Jay: I'm just this dude with longer hair Colin I connected that night from the essence Jay: from the ancient center of our beings two of you are in ecstasy it dries out your spinal cord, Jay: watch the door, Jay: Derek. Justin: Do you think I'd make a good... I like his belt buckle. Yeah, Justin: come on. Derek, do you think I'd make a good lighter? Justin: Yeah, would you hurry up?
Justin: Derek, do you think I'd make a good actress? His earring's in his right ear. He's not you. Jay: No, he is. The right ear is the bottom. Justin: Oh, yeah, you're right. Jay: I can't get caught shoplifting. Jay: Although I have things in both my ears right now because I'm stretching my earlobes. Jay: But I'm going to, after I get my surgery Monday, I'm going to eventually see Jay: about getting my right tragus pierced. Justin: Hello, Chanel. Justin: You and your tragus.
Jay: I love this shirt, too. Sadie: Pardon? Origins and feces. Justin: Oranges and peaches. Why don't you look over there? Jay: Under periodicals under food. Justin: That's why you ask a follow-up question. Jay: Reference interview. Maybe it's on microfiche, which is down the hall. Jay: She hasn't gone to library school. Jay: She hasn't learned about the reference interview yet. ...of species.
Jay: She looks so dumb. Always looking down, please, dear. Patrons often mistake clerks for, Jay: That's true. Jay: Howard, Ann, and I thought. Sadie: Cold when you're. Justin: Finished with those how much Camus could they need, Justin: yeah no it's the scene the. Sadie: Most cringeworthy scene in the entire movie. Jay: Like, there's some bad Orientalism in this movie, but I am actively calling Edward Said right now. Jay: My man is dead, but I am calling him anyway.
Jay: Oh. Justin: It always goes longer than you think it is. Jay: It's so bad. Jay: No. Don't. Don't do this. Jay: Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Jay: She's just doing, like, really racist voguing. Like, it's real bad. Jay: Is it over yet? Oh, fuck. Sadie: Is the egg carton on fire? Jay: I think it was. Justin: Yeah, it's smoke coming out of the oven. Jay: Sometimes it amazes me how bad people can be at cooking. Jay: It's not that bad. Just scrape it. I don't know. Cooking's easy.
Jay: You just follow directions. Sadie: It's not that bad. Just scrape it. It's a real poor kid's sentence right there. Jay: Just follow the instructions. Supermarket on Avenue D. Jay: It's Vicki's wedding reception. You're dead on that building. Jay: My grandma taught me how to read recipe cards as a kid. Jay: And like, this is how you follow a recipe. And I went, okay. Jay: And that's how I learned how to cook. You just follow a fucking recipe.
Jay: What does our life mean? You gotta read all the ingredients. Jay: If there is no God. And you get shit together and you read through the recipe Jay: once to make sure you know what you're doing. And then you do it. Oh. Jay: Did she read the book? He'd walk back down the mountain, and he'd do it all over again. Forever. Jay: Drag. It's a metaphor for life, Leo. It's famous. Sadie: Says a woman who didn't know what it was 24 hours ago. Justin: I think she did read. Yeah.
Sadie: Oh, yeah, she's got it. Sadie: One must imagine Sisyphus. Jay: But he doesn't have to be. he accepts his fate he you're telling me that if Jay: your name was syphilis and. Sadie: You spent your life lugging a fucking rock up a hill you wouldn't be. Justin: Miserable i think i'm an existentialist, Justin: hey nigel i'm looking for renee bet you two go at it like bunnies me and renee you and mary. Jay: All Shacked up and cosy, eh? No, I'm just here until I find the place.
Jay: All shacked up and cosy, eh?
¶ The Library's Role in Society
Justin: Where's my mocktail? My mocktail. Justin: Where have you worked? Me? Well, um... I've been working in London. Justin: did you spin? Well, I was working at this club. It's called, um... Justin: Fish and Chips. Never heard of it. Where is it? no it it's um it's near, Justin: it's pretty good. Sadie: It's the name of a band, Sadie: how's your upper torso out. Sadie: and right. Nine o'clock, no pay. It's a tryout. Okay. Justin: Stand up for yourself, Leo. You should get paid for work.
Sadie: Play anything written or produced by Teddy Rogers. His music is not played in my club. Sadie: Patient chips! Sadie: You think she's happy? She probably is. She likes young boys. Justin: She really does. I want those boots. Justin: This is like entirely my style Boots. Justin: me? Um, no. I'll see you later. I've got a date tonight. Justin: That's kind of Bootsy-like. I know it is not your life's work. Sadie: But for your information, the hairpiece. Dora is not a biography.
Sadie: It is the cornerstone of his psychoanalysis. Jay: Recode it. Sadie: The paperclip necklace. Justin: I may have made a mistake, but that is no reason to patronize me. Justin: It is dismaying that your expectations are based on the performance of a lesser primate. Jay: Of an antiquated and idiotic system? I think not. She's cooking. Sadie: Fuck you. Really, hold it. You'd really love my mother. You wouldn't treat me like this. Justin: That's what you had to do in bars before phones.
Justin: Just stare into the distance. That's stogie. Sadie: Breaking in via the fire escape, classic. Jay: It amazes me that the window wouldn't be locked. Sadie: Other than I need to use wild time. Jay: Like, where's the facilities, people? Where's the security? Sadie: Her leaving it unlocked would suggest foresight, and I think the whole point Sadie: of the scene is that she did not have that. Justin: I got the Suzy Mother Goose, both did their thing It's open!
Justin: Omar Alan Gurley, Justin: I just realized they set this record thing up earlier Because he asked, do you like this music? Justin: So I assume it's one of his songs Yeah, Justin: It's the kind of things I don't pick up on Until I've seen the movie about eight Justin: times I just have no retention of what happens in movies yeah well. Jay: If you spin yes I know I'm a DJ at. Justin: Renee's the hottest club the hottest how did I find it yeah I'm Oh, good. You know.
Sadie: That whole library is going to smell. Jay: Libraries smell like weed anyway. Sadie: That's a good point. Do we? Jay: Everybody smokes weed in the library. Justin: People got mad at me for saying I was smoking weed in the BPL bathroom on Blue Sky. Jay: People are fucking nerds on Blue Sky. Justin: And then the mayor's communications director followed me. Jay: Not you, mate. Step aside. Justin: This is Maid Marion. How you doing, love? Hey, Naji. Jay: It looks like Kamala Harris.
Sadie: It really does. Jay: It really does. Sadie: Please do not eat smoke or drink in the stacks of the library rolls up with Sadie: a joint and a beer i need some patrons. Jay: Like that, Jay: classification i'm not even good at the dewey decimal system that was like in Jay: cataloging like i always grasped library of congress okay and then like dewey Jay: decimal i was like what the fuck is this shit?
Justin: Those introductory essays in the cataloging rules are always like a trip. They're pretty good. Jay: I never had to read those. Sadie: Love at first sight. I mean, to be fair, she is hot. Justin: Mmm. Sadie: Tell me Since you left me Hey. Justin: Believe in me, believe, in me. Justin: Training montage. Oh, my gosh. Justin: see the little book hiding behind the two stacks. Sadie: I know what's going on. Yes, I do.
Sadie: You've been hurt before. You've been hurt before. You've been hurt before. Jay: You've got to keep going. Hurt before. you gotta have the books flush with the edge of the shelf. Sadie: Not shoved all the way back. Jay: Not shoved all the way back. Justin: The books just squished in. Sadie: Yeah. Jay: God, that would happen with the really thin music scores all the time and they Jay: would just get pushed back.
Justin: Yeah, you got to put thin stuff like that in filing cabinets or something. Jay: No, they were in pamphlet binders. It's just so many of them were crammed into Jay: a shelf that they would get like, Jay: and they were like thicker on one side than on the other because of like the Jay: thickness of like the pan binding. I think how that works. Jay: And so like, yeah. Jay: You put them in pan binders so that they can be on the shelf. Sadie: What I thought I'd never see.
Sadie: fire You give me fire Fire You might. Justin: Be in there, boy. Venus! Sadie: Venus what? Just Venus! Sadie: Love, love To be loved That is kind of cute. Not gonna lie. Jay: It's extremely cute. Justin: Cow. Justin: Excuse me. Sadie: What are you doing? Sadie: Is that the Hannah or Rent guy? Justin: I think it is. Justin: It looked like you were just... Eh, maybe not. His hair looks a little different.
Justin: It would make more sense for him to be the one who is screwing up the shelves later. Jay: Yeah. Randomly putting that book. Justin: On the shelf, is that it? Sadie: You've just given us a great idea. I mean, why are we. Jay: Wasting our time with the Dewey Decimal System when your system is so much easier? Jay: Why are we wasting time with the Dewey Decimal System, to be honest? Hear that, everybody? Justin: Our friend here has been waiting for us. It's hard to replace.
Sadie: Little too hard in the other direction, girl. We don't care! Sadie: Right? Isn't that right? You haven't taken a break all morning. Jay: Take a break. I just want to do a good job. Take your break. Jay: are they unionized it's. Sadie: A good manager. Jay: I think the nypl is union, Jay: but maybe only recently i don't know i'm not the case nypl union, Jay: Yeah, New York Public Library, good local 1930 They are AFSCME, Jay: They've been around since 1968 Are you okay?
Jay: No, it's not like it'll pass. Oh, Jay: or something. Don't be silly. No, you need a doctor. It is. Jay: So yes, they were Union When this movie was made, Jay: They're Union president, Jay: in 1993 I just wish you would hurry up and have done with it it's been two years right. Justin: Is that normal the tears don't mean anything I don't know.
Jay: Well anyway Raymond Markey was union president from 1992, Jay: to 2004 which is bad you shouldn't be union president for that long that's an Jay: undemocratic union I'm calling you out in my PL Local Librarians Guild 1930. Jay: You went to your boyfriend's concert. It's over a decade. Jay: something outlandish and the police came but you all didn't care because you. Justin: Were all young look. Jay: You need the union president institutional.
Justin: You need that institutional power so that you can hire goons you know how i know you. Jay: Are just like your mother their president before that was Marion Porro from 1980 to 1992. Jay: Also too long. Jay: You need a rank and file caucus to reform. Justin: A pita to something? Sadie: The fact that none of these like food people are wearing gloves is bothering me as a former I mean. Jay: Wearing gloves, depending on the environment, is worse than just having clean
Jay: hands. Because the gloves get dirty. Sadie: Yeah. Jay: I used to work in restaurants. You don't wear gloves in restaurants, really. Jay: You just make sure you have clean hands, because you're touching... Sadie: Depends on the... Jay: Yeah. I don't agree with this, so can you go? Justin: Yeah. Yeah, I don't like wearing gloves in kitchen.
Jay: People usually get worse hygiene practices when they're wearing gloves because Jay: they feel like, oh, my hands are clean, I'm wearing gloves, and so they touch more shit. Sadie: That's why you're supposed to change them out between every task. Can I have a falafel? Jay: Oh. I ordered baba ghanoush and a seltzer, please. Jay: Next time I go to a falafel place, I'm going to get falafel with hot sauce aside Jay: of baba ghanoush and a seltzer. Sadie: I really want baba ghanoush now.
Jay: I know, me too. Jay: There's this Middle Eastern place near the library that's apparently owned by Jay: Lebanese-Palestinian folks, and they got Baba Ganesh there. Jay: They go blind. Jay: They stick mascara and. Sadie: Blind. Sadie: How can we be blind to their innocent silent screams? Jay: It's so pure. Justin: Rabbits can scream. Justin: Ask. Jay: Justin how he knows this Justin's like Actually incorrect.
Justin: I've never had a rabbit scream What sort of a name is that? And what you doing Justin: going out with foreigners anyway? But that's why you can't have a kettle. Jay: You never point a knife at somebody This is America You speak English I'm just Jay: yelling at people Don't fucking point a knife at a person. Justin: What's his shirt? I dreamed I. Jay: Was I don't know, Jay: She went chainmail That little shit I'll rip his balls off Leo!
Jay: I was all, honey, please. It wasn't even published in Cuba. Okay. It's a conspiracy. Sadie: Pantsuit She's upgraded. Jay: She's in that wheelie chair There's tons of studies on twins But these focus solely. Justin: Can help you. Bye. Justin: Judy says. Jay: That doesn't mean it's the only thing I can do. And don't give me that. Jay: You're only a clerk, Rap. Jay: Because Juan is only a clerk. You've got her doing the Scientific American Overhaul.
Jay: And you invited her to that acquisitions conference. She's always at. Sadie: Since I... Since we had that problem. It was my first week, Judy. Shh. Sadie: Maybe I do treat you differently. Okay. But that's because I'm concerned. Sadie: you knew my mother? Big deal. So did I. She was a woman with no common sense. Sadie: Judy, there's no reason to judge me all the time. Everybody here sees it. Ask Caroline. Sadie: Ask Anne. Judge. Ask Wanda. You.
Jay: Who's intimidating, Judy. I try to do, I try to do a good job here. Jay: You don't even see it. You don't even care. Of course I care. Jay: But the fact of the matter is, I have known you since the. Justin: Come here every day, and I don't know the first thing about you. Justin: I like how it shows that both of them are really bad at making their relationship work. Justin: Your life, your friends. My. Sadie: I'm here in the library. I usually go to the 8.
Sadie: I go earlier. You should check out the eight beautiful people. I bet. Sadie: I connect with that meeting, you know? There are a lot of people at the eight whose issues... Sadie: But today...
¶ Confessions at the Library
Justin: I'm Renee. And I'm a goddamn alcoholic. Sadie: I like how chill they all are. Hi, I'm Mary. Justin: I'm sorry, I need a drink. Sadie: I know I hurt you boy Calafal montage. Justin: Can I have a calafal montage? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sadie: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Sadie: Are those purple tights with purple knee-high socks over them, Sadie: or are they tights that are made to look like knee-high socks? Justin: I don't know. Sadie: The Adidas heels.
Justin: I know I want to dance. Justin: I like the block. I'm sorry. Jay: I hate that stupid hat. Justin: The pilgrim hat. Sadie: So bad. Jay: It's not a pilgrim hat. Justin: It's just bad. A pilgrim hat, a beanie. Sadie: A skirt to match the rainbow purse. Sadie: I'd like my free pita. You want pita? Sadie: I know how you feel, buddy. Think I don't get this down on the job? Sadie: It's violating. Hot days, you gotta strip down. Sadie: Hey.
Justin: Good evening, Leo. The jeans are good. Where's my crate? Sadie: What the fuck? Yo, why is this on? Jay: I hate this scene. What happened? Justin: 500's tribal. Sadie: What? Jay: Surprise! Justin: I always mean to show this scene to Audrey. Jay: There was a stack right here. This scene makes me so mad. But they're organized Jay: by the Dewey Decimal System, which is perfect. Jay: Fuck the Dewey Decimal System. Yeah, seriously. Justin: Which is not made for music. Jay: No, it's not.
Jay: And then he doesn't know it. They were in order. Jay: Jesus, look, I gotta be honest. Yeah, they were in order. And you totally fucked my albums. Justin: The only thing useful she did is put the stickers on. Bitch. Jay: Yeah. Fucking bitch. You have ruined my life, you know that? Justin: You've ruined my fucking life. This is what I imagine whenever someone's like, Justin: what's a good system for organizing a personal library?
Justin: And I'm like you're going to do this and you shouldn't do this. Jay: Yeah. Also, hot take, this is just what most reparative cataloging projects Jay: are. Tribal, sleaze, disco. Jay: Those are further subdivided. Jay: Is catalogers imposing a system without actually consulting communities? Jay: The red sticker means that Teddy Rogers worked on it. That's a no-no. Jay: We know that. It's your number two pencil. Jay: I mean, like, this is the words that's right. It's over.
Jay: It's like, did you ask a person? Or is that what you think is right? Jay: Use our caps. It's the latter most of the time. Justin: So it's just cataloging with, like, people first language as a whole driving ideology? Yeah. Jay: Okay, here we go. Justin: I would love to do people first language with like reclaimed slurs. Jay: I love Sylvester. I'm glad he's been Sylvester. Jay: Disco classics? Jay: I guess. Jay: He starts getting into like the high energy genre though.
Jay: And worked with Patrick Cowley a lot. Jay: Yeah, he just created a pull list. He didn't find any of that shit. She did. Sadie: I really don't understand the point of this scene. It's just awkward. Jay: Like, yeah, I'll shower naked with my friends, but I'm gay. We do that. Jay: Leo, I've got to take a shower. Justin: Leo, I've got to get to work early today. Justin: This is my goddamn apartment. Sadie: This is my goddamn shower, Leo. I'm getting it. This is my goddamn water.
Justin: Leo. Leo, this isn't funny. That's my shampoo. You have the cheap. Jay: 99 set type. I have the expensive type. It's mine. That's not funny. Jay: You missed the obvious joke to squirt it on her, right? Justin: Mm-hmm. Jay: You gotta have, like, a visual cum shot in a scene like this. Sadie: Incest. Jay: Have a good night. Justin: Howard. Incest. I will. Justin: Why do you turn the lights off if they're still open? Can I help you? Justin: Yes, I'm looking for information on teaching.
Justin: Remember to turn off all the computers and close all the windows. Oh, they are closed. Justin: I always thought she was signaling him to not send him over. Justin: Sir, uh, excuse me, miss? Jay: Yeah, this is when they fuck in the romance languages section, right? Sadie: Yep. They ruin a first edition. Jay: Why do they have a first edition just out? That's their own goddamn fault. Jay: That kid could have sneezed on it. It's updated yearly.
Justin: For New York City. It also gets sun damage. Jay: Yeah, no shit. check the most recent amendments to like yeah the nypl has some Jay: like they've got like a gutenberg, Jay: um that's like out where people can look at it like outside of the rose room, Jay: um don't like it. Justin: Baby salanda milk and honey salanda milk and honey.
Sadie: I like how he's suddenly like attracted to her again and he's like as soon as Sadie: he finds out she's a librarian for some reason like this is part of the classism. Justin: In this movie it's kind of weird, Justin: so like just a clerk and he's not a food vendor he's a former teacher right he. Sadie: Can't just be. Jay: A falafel vendor right.
Sadie: For some reason that reminds me of the time a guy in the drive-thru the worker Sadie: the taco bell drive-thru was like oh yeah you're that hot librarian and i was Sadie: like this is not the time nor place do. Justin: Hot librarians get uh free uh churros. Sadie: I i did not it was i want free nacho fries i know you can only call me that Sadie: if i'm getting something out of it right. Jay: Like i want my goddamn nacho fries.
Sadie: That's when i was like maybe i need to move out of public service. Justin: It's Yemen. The land of milk and honey is Yemen. Justin: Cutscene. I love that. Jay: That's the best ending in this movie. Jay: God. Oh. You left the windows open. Jay: least 30. I found five that are out of print. Who? Some of our best poets. Jay: Cummings. I doubt Cummings is out of print. Sadie: Yeah. Jay: I doubt Hugh's out of print. I am so sorry. I doubt Dickinson's out of print. Look in there.
Sadie: Sex. Beauty, Mustafa surprised me last night. When I look at you. You know what? Sadie: The place of least concern to find a used condom is in the trash can in a public library. Sadie: Just saying. Found them in worse places. Justin: Better than the urinal. Here you are trying to prove just how stupid you can be. Judy, please. Justin: Librarian script. It is very readable. Justin: This is me in every essay in library school. Sadie: Trashing. Melville Dewey.
Justin: Just talking about how sexist librarianship is. Jay: And how the master's degree used to be a vocational thing, right? Jay: Like a little certificate you got? Justin: Yeah, it started out as a two-week program. Master's degrees were shorter back Justin: then. You could get them right out of high school. Jay: Yeah. Justin: You're like a master's of accounting, which just meant you did basically like, Justin: it's what we would call associate degrees now.
Justin: But then as times changed, people wanted to keep calling the master's, Justin: so they updated the requirements. Oh, shit. Jay: Only a judge can evict you. Jay: Get to know the neighbors in your building. Form a tenant union. Jay: All right. Don't sell your goatee. Jay: Form a union instead. Justin: She can steal more. And a dress. And $50 a sweat jacket. $50. Jay: Anyway. It belonged to my mother. She's dead. Dead mom club. Jay: Let's see what's in the other bag.
Jay: I got a kimono that my mom got when she lived in Japan. Justin: I'm thinking about getting a kimono, because it's so dang hot in this house. Justin: Just needs something a little flowy. Justin: Or like a Jinbei. Jay: She looks like she's wearing like a fencing outfit. Right? Justin: I like the sweater. Sadie: Sweater looks cozy. Justin: It's very... Jay: It looks like a fencing outfit. Justin: It's like the Harry Met Sally kind of poofy white.
Justin: But that's different. That's different. You're a teacher. You're a teacher. Justin: You're a teacher. This is my life. Justin: I want to do something. Sadie: And what do you want to do? that like v-shape in the front like of the sweater Sadie: very 90s thing then let's think of things you like to do things that you're good at then i'm not. Jay: Is not true, Jay: i like his gold zipper yeah that's like in gold as a combo he's wearing like. Justin: All dickies stuff.
Jay: It's all workwear. Justin: I had a jacket exactly like that. I used to be way into Dickies. Jay: Although cool anarchists have these Dickies overalls and Dickies pants. Justin: Dickies pants are good. Jay: I know. I want a pair. Jay: Because you don't really know me. Justin: Yeah one of my co-workers stole my dicky's jacket It's so cool. Justin: would be a great place for a party.
Jay: Oh no my orientalism part two electric boogaloo this is keffia at least he's Jay: got a Palestinian keffiyeh on, but... Justin: Since when was that guy a bartender? Jay: I don't know. Justin: Oh, right, she's making her friends work for her. That's right. Justin: I love those guys. Justin: They're acting like freaks on a leash. Why'd you make him dress like that? Jay: Oh, it hurts. So decadent. So merry. Justin: I live to serve, don't I? The necklace. I forgot about the necklace.
Sadie: Yep. Jay: Oh my God, it's your birthday already. Happy birthday. Yo, Poppy, what's up? Yo, what's up. Sadie: What's with you, Leo? All you got is pals? Merry, merry, quiet and sharing. Nigel. Justin: Vomit. Your cigarette is bothering me. Get a last name and we'll talk, okay? Justin: An evergreen insult in the queer community. Jay: I get a last name. Sadie: Give me a mocktail. That's OJ Cranberry Juice No Ice Lime Twist.
Jay: Pay for that? You got to pay for your dreams. You have to. It's how it works. She's such a little cop. Jay: Let me tell you, there are two kinds of people in this world. Justin: Herbivores. Why did she like charge for all of her parties instead of... Jay: It's a rent party. Justin: Mustafa, bring it at your post. Jay: Look, it's late. Nobody wants to raise money for rent. That's how she charged him. Justin: Well, she already got the money for rent. It's funny. That's her. You're hurting me.
Jay: Ow! Oh, my God. Justin: What's your problem? Foreshadowing. You treat everyone like dogs. Justin: You drink so much all night. You move around the room talking, Justin: talking. I'm having a good time. Justin: Haven't you ever seen anyone have fun before? Justin: And that means you don't respect the people who help you, who do. Jay: It's been wisdom. Justin: I would like a nice, powerful, mind-altering substance. Preferably something Justin: that would make my unborn children.
Sadie: Be right back. Justin: He's getting better. Justin: Also, I guess he just kept that album that Mustafa brought over that one time. Sadie: Yeah. Jay: There's this, like, great band camp called, I think it's, like, Habibi Funk. Jay: And they, like, put out all these, like, old, like, funk records and shit from, Jay: like, the Middle East from, like, the 60s and stuff. 60s and 70s. It's great. Justin: Isn't there something called like Bedouin tapes or something?
Justin: I don't remember if it's like a genre. Jay: But it's like where it's like on like cassettes and like on like the MP3s on Jay: cell phones and shit. Yeah. Justin: Yeah. I'm always having to do Was it Bedouin? Justin: But yeah, it's like cassettes and phone stuff. Justin: Listen to me. Jay: Don't give me your faggot shit, Derek. Don't be a faggot. Parker Posey's allowed to say faggot. Jay: It's the weather. I give her permission. Justin: Staring at a bearded dragon. Sadie: The lizard.
Jay: He's just hanging out. This is a very well-behaved bearded dragon. Jay: Coop would be jumping all over the fucking place. Jay: Although I have walked into like Pat Smart with him on my shoulder before. Justin: She loves doing this move. Jay: Yeah. She's, like, very bad at voguing is what it is. Jay: And then she, like, is orientalist with it. Justin: We're just speaking, we're just speaking, we're going to mix and switch and switch.
Jay: What mind-altering substance is she on that's kicking in that quickly? Justin: Hmm. Something that'll make her unborn children grow gills. Jay: Unless Dean Shrooms take longer to kick in. Sadie: It's like that photo of like all the like girls holding cups looking at the Sadie: camera that people use as a meme.
¶ The Party and Its Drama
Jay: I've got a keffiyeh like that. Jay: I've got that red one, and then I've got like a black one. Not the black and Jay: white one, just a black one. I was marrying you. Mrs. Jay: Nigel Hogsworth. Jay: just want to... I just want to sleep. Come on. I just want to sleep. Jay: Come on. I just want to sleep, Nigel. Sadie: Go home, girl. Justin: Quick, lock it. Quick. Look. Look. Look. Justin: Look. Justin: Look. Look, Mary, just open the door, right?
Justin: This, like, turns into a horror movie for, like, 30 seconds. Sadie: Yeah. Open the fucking door, man! Open the fucking door! Open the fucking door! Sadie: Those are all the books she ruined by leaving the windows open. Jay: Music. Justin: I think some of those are bookstore discards. I just noticed one of them had Justin: the title page ripped off, or the front cover ripped off. Jay: Sorry, I'm just trying to see you. Yeah.
Justin: Oh, my God. Justin: Apparently there's a word in Russian for guys who just do this. Sadie: Are always carrying things upstairs. Justin: No who like sleep in the uh stairwell, Justin: milo edwards had a comedy bit where he was talking about those types of guys Justin: in that word and he's like oh yeah i think i like that my building turns out Justin: he lives on the fifth floor he just never liked to go into his apartment it's. Sadie: About my future.
Justin: He would get drunk and read dostoevsky in the stairwell all day i'm working, Justin: Library instruction. Justin: doing here? You're going to help me, bitch. Sadie: Okay, let's see. We still have to hang that. Jay: Piñata and make the hash brownies. I'm here with the balloons. Jay: Carl. That's. Justin: You know, a piñata. What is a piñata? It's a piñata. Justin: A piñata is a Latin American ritual performed on birthdays and also Christmas.
Jay: What's up? Be careful, a piñata! You don't need some high-status degree. Jay: You want the best program for the least money in the shortest amount of time. Jay: Absolutely. Oh, please. That's you. Justin: You went to Colombia. Justin: But I didn't go to Columbia I did my undergraduate there, and Arbor is so much Justin: fun. I don't want to leave New York. Well. Jay: As in non-academic. Howard doesn't approve of academia. He thinks it's for women.
Jay: It is. This is me now, Jay: Academic librarianship is for the bourgeois, Jay: I used to be the enemy, I've now seen the error of my ways. Jay: I'm kidding. Kind of. Mostly. Sadie: Yeah, this is the place. We want beer. The queer falafel stand. Jay: Word, where can I go? Where can I get me some queer falafel? Jay: Can I get a falafel and hot sauce? When I worked in Utah, the falafel truck Jay: on campus, they loved me. Sadie: I want that jacket.
Jay: Falafel. And then there was like a good falafel pita place when I worked in New Hampshire and Jay: because I could say shukran to say thank you they were like hey and I always Jay: like brought co-workers there for lunch and they like they loved me they're Jay: like hey it's you. I was like yeah it's me. Justin: That's a great story. Jay: Yeah. You're working a new look. Derek, may I have a word with you please? Jay: You see the pinata for your birthday? I like his little cowboy shirt.
Justin: Mm-hmm. Judas is coming over here in 15 minutes. Jay: We've got to get these people out of here. Justin: I like how Kurt's just having a good time. Justin: See the pinata? Sadie: Kurt's just there. Justin: She's having a slip. Mary. Leo and I have thrown. Jay: You the party of a lifetime. Like, I like how he calls her Mary, Jay: but not in the timbre cadence as if it was her name, but as a gay person calling anybody Mary. Justin: I think it's just like him like that. Jay: He's just gay.
Justin: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jay: Mary. Enabler. May I? I expect you on that dance floor in five minutes and please, Jay: Mary, those clothes were priceless. They were irreplaceable. Jay: Mary, those clothes were priceless. Jay: Like he says, doesn't say it like it's her name. Justin: No, he says it like Mario. Jay: No, that's just how gay people call each other Mary. Judy, there's been a mix-up. Justin: I think he's just Italian like that. Jay: No. Derek and Leo threw me the.
Justin: Surprise party without my permission. Write in the comments. Justin: Gay or Italian? This is our new game on the show. Sadie: What does this hat say? Ask something? Justin: You haven't heard my plan. This is called tough love, Mary. Please, Justin: open up. Please. It's open. Justin: It's open. Sadie: Never do that. Sadie: Come back with a warrant. Jay: Come back with a warrant. Do not talk to cops. Call your lawyer immediately. Jay: How come I've been getting all.
Justin: Those complaints about you? Jay: Even lawyers, like, are like, shut the fuck up around cops. Like, Jay: shut the fuck up. Just don't say anything. Shut the fuck up. We are downtown. Sadie: Officer, you haven't even read her her rights. Justin: A love slave. He looks like What's-His-Face, the actor, um... Sadie: You know, in my experience with middle-aged ladies, she would actually probably Sadie: be the most enthusiastic in that room. Not going to lie.
Jay: I'm serious about graduate school. Jay: I wish I were saying I was serious about graduate school with a dude with a Jay: jockstrap thrusting around me. Jay: Arthur loves to just sit and put his butt on a corner of my laptop and then Jay: have his tail go across the keyboard. Justin: Mm-hmm. Jay: See? Jay: Yes, Arthur, everybody can see your tail. You're a good boy. Sadie: Poor stripper. Stop with the lies and manipulations. Why won't you trust me?
Sadie: She was very into that library. She lent me a book from there on body piercing. Sadie: That's nothing. Library. Justin: I'm body piercing. Jay: I'm body. See, it is me. Justin: Cross-listed. Yes, cross-listed. Look, there are over 2,000 albums here. So will, Justin: Why not? Because she had sex in the library. Justin: Sex addiction. Sex addiction. Mary. Hey, we're in the library, Justin: Jax. The romance language section. Jay: That's what I want to know.
Justin: See, this guy's asking the right questions. I'm so sorry. Jay: Mary did wish us for a while.
¶ Reflections on Library School
Sadie: Yes. I'll do it. Jay: In my experience convincing someone you actually do want to go to library school is that hard, Jay: when i when i decided i want to be a librarian i told my boss at the music library Jay: hey i think i want to be a librarian and she was like let me take you out for Jay: a drink and then took me out for a drink and sat me down after she bought me Jay: a drink and went so why do you want to be a librarian librarian.
Jay: And I told her and she was like, that's the right answer. Jay: She's like, if you had told me it was because you liked books or reading or Jay: something, I would have told you, no, that I wouldn't help you. Jay: And then she did help me. She helped me with all my applications and helped me pick programs. Jay: I had to interview a librarian for one of my applications and she connected Jay: me with one of her friends who was a wine librarian in California and I got
Jay: to interview him. That was cool. Jay: Librarian, huh? Justin: But I never got to do any neat librarian interviews. Justin: That's not true. I interviewed the Judaica librarian at UF. They have a separate Justin: Judaica library, I think. I think it was UF. Jay: Yeah, there were a lot of Judaica and Hebrew language cataloging positions when Jay: I was first looking for jobs. Jay: But yeah, this was for the University of Illinois. They required an interview with a librarian.
Justin: The lady bunny itself. Jay: So what's everyone's favorite like thing about this movie like yeah i mean. Justin: The fashion's always fun yeah. Jay: And a rent buff and a rent the. Justin: It twins, Justin: made marion, Justin: Kurt. Sadie: Carl. Jay: See, and like, so the steps that she says that she goes through to help Mustafa, like...
Jay: the way that i was taught to do reference was like you would walk someone through, Jay: how to do everything you wouldn't necessarily do the research for them, Jay: um you would like walk them Jay: through um and like show them the skills or like here this is then where you Jay: would find this information and then they could always ask for more help but Jay: that's like usually what subject specialists are for is if you're getting like Jay: really in-depth right yeah.
Justin: But she's mostly especially at a public library well she's mostly pulling ready Justin: reference though it was like he knew what Justin: he was asking for he just needed certification and navigating the city.
Jay: Yeah ready reference is kind of a lost Jay: art like i learned about ready reference but Jay: i feel like i never had to actually do ready reference Jay: the closest i can think is like when i was at the music library i would have Jay: to like point people to like yeah like here's the i think they're the Costellos, they're these, Jay: Castells, that's what they are they're these books of, Jay: like, Jay: for all the Italian and German operas and stuff it's like the pronunciations
Jay: of everything for singers, Jay: so I always have to point people to those, Jay: and those were like on the reference shelf, Jay: Utah had a lot of stuff about like patents so and like standards like standards Jay: books so I had to like know where those were to appoint people to them but. Jay: I don't work with the public anymore more though. Justin: I'm looking to see if there's actually. Sadie: Looking to see if there's actually Teddy Rogers listed anywhere.
Justin: It was Teddy Rogers right yeah Teddy, Justin: Available on Relativity Recordings, Justin: I've never noticed that The original soundtrack album, Notice. Jay: Yeah? Justin: I'm going to be looking for that more. Jay: Oh, yeah. That was in movies all the time in the 90s and early aughts. Sadie: It's because the movie soundtrack slapped. Justin: Yeah, in the 90s. Oh, yeah. It's back. Sadie: Oh, God. Jay: Oh, God. Sadie: I forgot about this. Jay: Ah. Sadie: Why did they do this?
Jay: I'm looking for who Teddy Rogers is. Jay: I searched for Teddy Rogers in Wikipedia and the party girl showed up. Justin: Is that not a real person? Jay: I don't think so. Maybe.
¶ Wrapping Up the Conversation
Jay: I don't know okay well that's hardy girl i'm gonna try this out, Jay: cool we did it hopefully it worked this time yeah. Justin: All right i'm stopping it now.
