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Benjamin Hamlitsch RCDD on Elevating Fiber Optic Projects Through Inspection and Cleaning

Oct 10, 202330 min
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Do you ever wonder about the secret to successful projects with fiber optics? Want to know how to reduce problems by up to 90%? Meet our guest, Benjamin Hamlitsch RCDD, a dominant figure in the industry with over 15 years of experience. He's not only an expert in fiber optics and copper cabling but also has the distinguished RCDD certification under his belt. In our enlightening conversation, Ben unveils the crucial role of cleaning fiber optics in ensuring successful projects. 

We navigate the world of fiber optics, discussing the significance of cleaning and inspecting before the connection. We share the importance of inspecting fiber optic end faces and cleaning connectors if dirt or dust is found. We also explore the tools used for these processes, such as handheld scopes and video scopes, emphasizing the need to keep these tools clean. What's more, we illuminate the new IEC end face standard and why it's paramount to adhere to it. Come, join us on this journey and discover if cleaning fiber truly amps up its performance. You're in for a treat!

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Importance of Cleaning Fiber Optic Connections

Speaker 1

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Fiber optics can be a complex issue , especially to somebody who hasn't been trained , but if I could just give you one tip that you could follow , that would make your job easier terminating and testing fiber would you be interested ? I've got a special guest to talk about one thing you can do to ensure that your projects will have 90% less problems .

Welcome to the show , Ben Hollins . How are you doing ? I'm doing all right , Thanks . Thanks for having me on . I appreciate you coming on to talk about this important subject of cleaning fiber . You know a lot of people don't realize just how important it really is and since you work for true fiber , you might know a little bit about fiber .

I'm just saying right , why don't you go and give the audience a quick 30 second shot of who you are and why we should be listening to you ?

Speaker 3

Well , yeah , like mentioned , my name is Ben Homlich . Well , I've been in the industry for a little while now . I work with fiber optics , copper cabling . I used to work for Leviton , actually , so I'm familiar with a lot of their products and things like that .

I worked for Fluke , as well , as a technical analyst , a technical support person , and then now I'm working here with true fiber and basically we're a manufacturer , product supplier , building out product lines and building up the different types of product needs in terms of fiber optics .

So all together , probably you know almost a little over 15 years in the industry , and back in 2010 , I acquired my RCDD as well and I've maintained that . So , yeah , so a little bit of industry experience there as well , very good .

Importance of Fiber Cleaning and Inspection

Speaker 1

For some reason I did not know that you were an RCDD . How did I not know that ? I don't know ? Yeah , that's usually one of the first things I look at is to see if they have that certification . Not that it makes you any better or worse than anybody else , but being a fellow RCDD , I tend to notice that right .

Speaker 3

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , 2010 . So it's been a little while now .

Speaker 1

But yeah , I got mine back in 1999 . And so I've had mine in two different centuries . Man , that makes me old . That's all that really does . This makes me old .

Speaker 3

So let's talk about fiber cleaning .

Speaker 1

Yeah , exactly , let's talk about some fiber cleaning . Does a technician in the field really need to clean their fiber optic connectors ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , that's like an excellent question . You know , sometimes I feel like the technicians are like you know what ? This isn't super important , or maybe they're not trained that that is super important . But the answer to that is is is yes . Now , with a slight caveat .

I think in the past a lot of times , what we would kind of recommend is always clean and then check it and then plug it in or clean it again . That's kind of was kind of the idea .

But the idea now is slightly different and you may have heard of this and some of me have heard of this , like some of the Bixie conferences as well , some of the presenters and it really makes a lot of sense is is really inspect first , then clean , then inspect again , and the reason for that is because a lot of times , coming from manufacturer , you know they

do a pretty good job of cleaning those end faces now . So you might inspect it and it's perfectly clean , there's no issues . If you were to introduce a whole cleaning method to it again , you might actually create more issues . So so that's kind of the idea and but yes , it is very important .

So if you inspect it and you and you see something on there in terms of whether it's dust , dirt . If you see some film or something , definitely go ahead and clean it , and and there's a few different ways of doing that which I think we'll probably get into here soon . But but yeah , definitely very important .

And and here's like a quick little statistic that I just heard recently it says the cause of network failures is is contaminate , contaminated connectors . That's , that's the major cause and it's and one of the statistic was was 80 percent of Network issues is connector issues .

So whether that's 100% accurate or not , but that's a huge percentage and it's probably true because when we talk fiber optics , that that is Nine times out of ten the issue .

Speaker 1

Where did you , where did you remember , where you read that ?

I got that from a training that I just recently sat in on with the , with the manufacturing company , a test testing manufacturing company that makes test equipment , and that was the statistic that they just popped out there and their I think there's a lot of truth to that , because and I've said this many times on the show I've sat in several big see classes and

every single time I sit in a big see class they always say you know , 90% of all fiber optic problems are because of dirty connectors . And that's even more true . So today , you know , back 20 years ago , when we were doing hot melts , when we were doing two part epoxy connectors , there were other things that could happen .

Like you could , you could actually break the fiber down in because you push too Hard with your , with your re-rescribe or something like that . But in today's environment , most of the connectors are gonna be some type of fusion splice on connector or that's a pre-polished at the factory , some type of a mechanical connector that's pre-polished at the factory .

So , realistically , as long as you do the , the fusion splicing right or the mechanical splicing right , you got a factory polished edge there . So You're not gonna have that , that that bad cleave , right .

Yeah , let me ask you this a lot of technicians they probably understand the role to inspect before you connect , when they're talking about , you know , going out and plugging into an existing , you know fiber optic enclosure or an adapter panel or something like that . What is your recommendation ?

Let's say , let's say I'm doing a project and I just I'd open up my box with my , my x , what my , my true fiber Parts right , and I pull out the that adapter panel , right , or those or those enclosure . Should I inspect those before I click anything to them ?

Speaker 3

So the , the adapter panels , like the , the Feedthrough connectors and those types of things .

Yeah , so if , if you've got I mean anything with a connector , so anything with an end face , a fiber optic end face , so that would include like a , you know , like a Transceiver SFP or something like that too , inspect it first and then , if it needs to be cleaned , definitely I'd recommend cleaning it .

And so I think you can't , when it comes to that , this process of the installation part , fiber optics you can't really , in my mind , do too much in terms of inspecting and then cleaning it's . It's just , it's very important and it's gonna save you a lot of headaches Down the road potentially .

Speaker 1

I didn't even think about that because you mentioned talking and checking the equipment too . I didn't even think about that because you know what that piece of equipment might have been in place , might have been in service Over a couple , two , three , four years , and you and I both know this been the IT person . They always lose those .

You protective caps , or Technicians like to call them dust caps , but they're not really dust caps , they're really protective caps and they they lose them .

So now you got that end face on , a piece of equipment is being exposed to the atmosphere , which could be moisture , it could be dust , dirt , and if you're taking a brand new patch or you're plugging in , it doesn't work .

You might be thinking , well , this is a new patch , or was it not working , I mean , and you might have inspected your patch , but you might not have inspected the equipment . So it's a good idea . I think I always tell techs all the time inspect every patch , cord . It's brand new , out of the bag or not , right .

You know every , every connector , it , because it's you can't , you can't inspect it too many times to ensure that it's clean , right and it all the Texas . All it takes is one time to plug it dirty . Oh , here's one I just thought of . I don't want Just send me test equipment .

Make sure the test equipment is not dirty , because if you plug it , if you plug a brand spanking new patch cord into a piece of a test cord , that's , that's Contaminated . You just cross contaminated your test cords .

Speaker 3

Yeah , and and that's a really good point you cross contaminate the test cords , or the flip side of that . You have a damaged or cross contaminated patch cord and now you're plugging that into the test equipment transceiver and now you could cause damage to the actual Transceiver on the test equipment and that becomes a real expensive Problem , right ? So ?

So both sides of that is extremely important right .

Speaker 1

So alright , so we , we , I think we got that covered . You , if it's always dirty , always assume is dirty until you've inspected it first , and then , if it's dirty , then clean it right and then Don't . Here's something I want to add on that , because it's like I got ADD today for some reason , even after you clean it , don't just plug it in .

Look at it one more time before you plug it back in , because you may not have Cleaned it thoroughly enough . Yeah , some stuff on there , so yeah , I see , I see . Is the good like an acronym .

Speaker 3

What's it mean ? Inspect clean , inspect connect .

Speaker 1

There you go . I like that , I absolutely like that . So what are some of the different ways that we can clean a fiber ?

Speaker 3

So , there's a few different ways . There's the dried option , so that's with a lot of times you know is being used out . There is the , the click cleaners . That's kind of seems to be Mostly the most common style for the dry cleaning . You also do have the cassettes , the Cleatop type cassettes , that are used as well for the dry cleaning .

So those are , those are the methods for dry cleaning . Wet cleaning Is is another option and that's if , if the dry cleaning is is not working or there's maybe some embedded dirt or something on there that needs to be removed with a little bit more , you know , a little bit more force , the dry or the wet cleaning can be used and and .

But what's really important , and and I think it's it's important to mention this is , you know , years ago isopropyl alcohol was the go-to right . Let's use ice , ice , probe alcohol . That's the best . Let's , you know , fiber clean . It's not really recommended anymore . It's .

It's recommended to use an actual fiber optic cleaning solution On the wet side , and the reason for that is , you know , it's designed specifically for cleaning fiber optics .

So they've , they've , they've Maximize the , the you know the way it needs to be designed I guess it's like a better word Whereas the ice is probably alcohol , a lot of times will leave a film , or Sometimes it'll leave a residue or something like that , and that's not .

It's not always picked up or seen with the fiber scope and especially if you're using a handheld , sometimes it's , it's you can't see it , so so that's really important . So on the wet cleaning but the process for the wet cleaning is is a little bit more . I guess involved too is you want to make sure , is you want to go from wet to dry .

So if you're using the wet Cleaning process , you want to use the , the alcohol . You want to clean the end face on the wet and then go to dry In terms of the cleaning .

So so those are the two kind of main ways of doing it , and then there's a and then there's , and then there's kind of a combination of the two which I kind of Just touched on , and that's the wet to dry process . Those should , by all intents and purposes , take care of your issues sometimes . Sometimes it doesn't but that those , those should .

Speaker 1

Yeah , a lot of text . Don't realize that that isopropyl alcohol is Hygroscopic . That's a big saying , fancy , fine scientific word that I , that Jake . Jones taught me . It means it absorbs moisture from the air . So if you have a bottle of alcohol sitting out , it absorbs a moisture in here and that that's left on the end face It'll show as drop is .

By the way , when you're looking at fiber in face , you really should be using a minimum of a 200 power scope to kind of check that in face out . There are 100 power scopes and a lot text run with 100 power scopes , but you miss a lot of the dirt and debris .

Let me ask you this , because you talked about the wet , dry and the wet the wet system in the dry system . Is One better than the other , or is there or is there a specific Application where you might want to choose one over the other ?

Speaker 3

Yeah . So I think you would choose the wet if you've inspected and you've done your first cleaning and you're not getting whatever might be on there off . So the dry is really kind of the quick , probably covers most scenarios in terms of the cleaning that you would need .

But if you're inspecting it and you're just not getting it with the dry , then switch to the wet . It's a little bit more involved , takes a little bit more time to do so in time is money , as we know in this industry .

So I think it's always great or good to start with what's easiest , but you may need to switch to the other , which would be the wet , to start cleaning . So that's kind of my take on it . If I was to be out in the field again doing it , whereas I would inspect it If I see something , I would give it a clean with the dry click cleaner .

If that doesn't do it , then I'd switch to a wet , sorry , and use that .

Speaker 1

So dry system ? Correct me if I'm wrong . Right , isn't there like two options , the first option being some like pre-made device , like the cassette cleaners that you're talking about earlier , or the ones that you can actually stick into the adapter panel and stuff . But also , wouldn't a lint-free wipe also qualify as dry cleaning ?

Speaker 3

Well , you can . Again , you don't want to make sure that that lint-free wipe is fiber optic . It designed for fiber optic specifically . So it's not , your shirt's not going to be that lint-free wipe . I can't use my pants , yeah , or a napkin or something like that , because that's just going to introduce all kinds of more problems .

So , yeah , make sure that it's a specific fiber optic lint-free wipe , and absolutely those could be used .

Speaker 1

The reason I point that out there . There's a lot of old school fiber people out there still using the lint-free wipes from the fiber optic lint-free wipes . Obviously , my concern with using that I'm not saying you can't , I'm not even saying you shouldn't , but my concern is when you're using that type of a dry cleaning system versus , like the cassette cleaners .

When you use the cassette cleaners you know that you're always on a nice new , clean spot of dry cleaning pad . If you're using that lint-free wipe , you might be going back over a piece of the lint-free wipe where you just wipe something else and you might be cross-contamining your connector again .

Speaker 3

Yeah , that's an excellent point . Yeah , and the other thing , with the clicks too , the clip cleaners or those types , they're very focused in the specific zone and area that they need to clean .

So you could be out with the lint wipe , you're covering the whole surface of the end face and that could be pulling dirt from the outside corner of the end face to the core or something like that , whereas with the clip cleaners or that style , they've done a lot to really focus it on the cladding and core area in order to just make sure that that's

specifically clean , so why might it be important to inspect it first ? So that's a really good question .

The Importance of Cleaning Fiber Optics

We've kind of touched on that a little bit , but I think it's worth reiterating for sure . You just don't know if it's going to be contaminated or if it's going to be clean already , and so the inspection first is just such an important step .

If it's not dirty , there's no reason to clean it again , and that's been proven true in a lot of different scenarios and situations where it was totally clean under inspection , but they cleaned it anyway and then someone added dust or dirt or some sort of cross contamination , maybe even from the inspection tool itself , because it wasn't clean .

And that's another thing to maybe mention . Is the inspection tool being used , whether it's a video scope with a with a end piece that slides into the fiber connector to view the end face , or if it's an actual handheld scope with the , you know , with the fiber entering the front of the scope , those .

It's extremely important to make sure that those are clean as well . Your inspection process , which is to inspect the fiber optic end face to to ensure that it's clean , could easily be contaminating the connector that you're plugging in in there . So so another , another great thing to verify and check .

I think if we walk away with you know anything in this entire podcast ? It's inspect and clean , but cleaning is so important when it comes to fiber optics . It's , it's , it's a end game solution .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , and if you inspect it , you can use either the you know the handheld scope or the or the , like I said , the fiber end face camera . My preference would be use the camera because that way I can take a digital picture and I can document that my end faces are clean .

That way there's no future potential warranty issues or service calls because they said , oh , your connector was dirty . No , it was clean . Here's the picture . See , I remember I sent it to you in the email . So , yeah , my preference always to have some type of a fiber scope that's got the ability to take pictures , right , yeah , so the micro .

Speaker 3

The handhelds , you know they were really popular , you know years back , and you know they're still used . You were mentioning 100x and I think 200x is kind of the more common for multi mode and then if you're doing single mode , 400x on the handhelds , right , but the video scopes are coming down in price .

You know quite a bit more and if you know if you , if you're looking to invest in something , really that's the way to go . The other nice thing about it is , like you just said , for documentation purposes , most of these video scopes , you know if they're any kind of quality video scope , they're going to actually test to the , the IC standard .

They're going to give you , you know , breakout and really kind of isolate the core and the cladding in terms of how that test procedure process goes . It's going to give you a grading , a pass , fail , that type of a thing . So that's really , that's really , in my opinion , the better way to go when it comes to inspection .

Speaker 1

Gotcha . So I'm always , I'm always harping codes and standards , codes and standards , and most people can't tell you the difference between codes or standards . Codes are for safety , minimum quality construction , standards are for performance , right , so you should always follow the standards , because they will always exceed the code book .

What did the standards say when it comes to cleaning fire ? Because I know the code says nothing about it .

Speaker 3

Yeah , so that's just recently changed a little bit . At least the IC standard has just recently changed a little bit the 61 , 300 , 3-35 .

They got the big old one , yeah , right and so , but but it used to be real , real stringent and the core and the cladding and all that were kind of combined into a single type of test and it was the slightest micron of dirt and dust whether which . We don't want that , but but it was almost impossible sometimes to pass that test . Well , they've changed it .

They're addition three . They've made some slight changes to that . They've allowed , they've isolated the core to its own , to its own cleaning . They've isolated the cladding to its own cleaning . So they've done that in terms of what is allowed and what's past fail . They've actually something interesting that they added that wasn't there before .

That I thought was interesting is that after numerous cleans and they don't give a number , but say two or three cleanings and you've seen something that's still there but it's not affecting the performance . So you , maybe you run a loss length test or an OTDR and the performance is there .

They say , go ahead and pass that cable or pass that end face as a pass , even though you might see something . It could be something that maybe in the cladding that's slightly embedded or something like that , but it's not affecting the core .

Those are some of the key takeaways that I kind of noticed in the new IEC end face standard website that's forward facing to the customer , which covers those IEC things that we were just talking about .

Speaker 1

Any chance ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , we do have a couple articles that have been written on fiber cleaning . Yeah , you can go to the website truefibercom . We have a fiber forum there . In that fiber forum there's a whole list of various different articles on different topics . But yeah , there's two specific ones on fiber optic cleaning .

One of them needs to be a little bit updated with this new IEC standard some of the changes that were made but generally speaking they have all the information we're discussing here pretty much .

Speaker 1

Do me a favor after the show , send me those links and I'll put them in the show notes down below , so that way , if somebody's hearing this , they can go look at the show notes and they can find the links directly to those videos .

Speaker 3

Yeah , that'd be great .

Speaker 1

Last question we know that we really should be cleaning fiber , but does that really contribute to the fiber performing better ?

Speaker 3

Yeah . So that's a great question because you're like I'm doing all this work . Is it worth it ? The answer is absolutely so .

One of the things we talked about , isopropyl alcohol earlier , and one of the things too that they found , is that if there's a film or a residue of isopropyl alcohol left on the end face and that gets plugged into a transceiver on some of these higher bandwidth transceivers , getting into 400 , 400 , 800 gig , they're pushing a lot of power through those transceivers

over the fiber optic cable and that residue can create heat . So as that's exiting , the transceiver can create heat and that can actually could destroy or cause damage to the transceiver . So that's on the isopropyl side .

On the cleaning side , obviously , if you're working with single mode and you haven't properly cleaned it or there's dirt or something on it we're talking the smallest speck of dust can completely kill your signal . We have an 8 micron core . If we think about the size of that , your hair is about what ? 16 micron ?

Speaker 1

I don't know , I can't speak on that , I don't have an ear , maybe bigger than that , 60 , somewhere like that . I think you're right . I think your number's right . I think your number's right .

Speaker 3

Somewhere in there for the size of your hair . I mean , think about that . It's tiny . Well , this is far smaller than that , right ? So extremely important because of what it can do to your network . How can degrade your network ? And sometimes your network will still perform , but you see a big performance dip or degradation in your system because of that .

So , again , extremely important from an application standpoint , from a use case standpoint , to ensure that your network is performing optimally .

Speaker 1

Great advice , ben . I appreciate you coming on the show man . Any final parting thoughts you'd like to share ? Anything new , true fibers bringing out that you want to just say , hey , we're coming up with something new .

Speaker 3

Well , nothing new , so to speak , but continuously growing the true fiber product line , coming out with new products . Really encourage people to check out the fiber form , which I'm going to give you there with the links .

Lots of technical information and articles on there that I think are , you know , could be beneficial to installers and end users and anybody out there that's looking to get into working with fiber optics . Excellent .

Speaker 1

I appreciate you coming on the show .

Speaker 3

Thanks a lot .

Speaker 1

Happy to be here . So I hope you understood from that whole entire episode that keeping your fiber clean will keep you from having 90% of the problems that you have with terminating fiber Until next time . Knowledge is power .

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