Hello. You're gonna hate me for saying this, but I'm really tired.
oh, me too.
You're like, oh, whatever. What is a full night's sleep? I've had a weird day. It's been a weird one. I worked, I was freelancing today as an event manager, but a week. I always think it's a weird, it's a been a weird day. It's a weird one, you know?
It's kind of like different to your usual
Yeah.
atmosphere, I guess, isn't it? It's a bit, you
Yeah. And I'm very much used to being like, oh, hi, like everyone's happy, and like, oh, you're having a great time. Like, you know, and obviously you have, you can't be like that.
a bit. Yeah.
Yeah. It's like raining in and you can't Yeah. I'm so used to just going over to people and being like, oh, how's your day go? Like, you know, do you know what I mean? And it,
probably
have to really,
is it?
no, it's really not.
well.
it's been a weird one. I'm very tired. I dunno why. Literally, I went into work and somebody said to me like, you look really tired. And you know when someone says it and you're like, yeah, now I feel really tired.
People say that to me and they, and I'm like, look, just tell me I look like shit. It's
Yeah, thanks.
newborn
Yeah,
I, I, I don't know what I look like. I know
but what's my excuse? I have no excuse.
you know.
I will say, I will say, sorry, I'm in my gym attire tonight,
Sorry, I've
been working it, I'm working it hard in the gym at the minute, you know, I've gotta get, it's, it's literally
fair,
Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Two months till the Hindu. Two months, All Go, go, go. It's all go
other way. I just kept eating. I like went on like a protest, like a, like a fat protest. was like, you know, I'm getting married, I'm gonna eat everything. I stop running, stop exercising, stop working
Why not? I mean, I'm, I will just put it out there. I always have been an exerciser and I've always looked after my health and stuff. Yeah, but I'm just going that little bit more, but yeah. Anyway, just to save me boring you all. Should we get started?
Let's do it.
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Woo. How are you?
Yeah, I'm good.
Apart from tiredness with babies, I mean, right. We say this, but I met Hailey and Little Lily yesterday, right? And people say, oh, this baby life is difficult. She slept the whole three hours. I was with them. I was like, Hailey, whatcha talking about? This is a, this is easy. I forgot she was even there, if I'm honest. No, I'm joking. I'm sure a lot of people are screaming at me right now. Like.
you know what I have to, sometimes I'll be like walking around, I'm like, oh my God. I got baby in there
You'll forget her.
around the house. I'm like, oh my God, there's a baby in the front room.
Oh,
Who
what is that noise you like? Start chatting like, Richard, what are you
gosh.
doing up there? What is that noise? Oh, it's the baby. Oh, whoops. But how, how have you been? How you, because obviously you've had, you know, you're a solo parent in this week, but Richard's back to work.
Yeah, it's been all right. We're making our, we're making our own little routine together now, so.
Nice.
I like to get her out and about every day we go somewhere and do something. We go for lots of walks and things like
Yeah,
I wanted to be, well, I basically wanted her to fit in with like our lives. I didn't
yeah,
oh, can't come and do that because of nap time or
yeah. Sorry.
You know what I mean? Like, oh
Yeah, definitely.
to these things. But I just, I really wanted to kind of like get her out and about a lot and, and
Yeah.
her with me like I normally would.
Yeah. Which she loved yesterday.
And she's like,
Loving Life.
quite confident little
Yeah.
I hope. And, and it gives me the confidence to kind of like, you know, keep going out and stuff. And
a hundred percent.
weddings coming up, there might be a few where I have to
Yeah. Bring, bring her on that. Well, I did see, which I thought was really cute, that you took her to your wedding venue.
I
Very nice.
a little carrier. Yes. We
Oh.
little like front pack thing, like a harness, I dunno what you call it. Baby carrier I think is what you call it. But anyway,
Oh, fair play.
and
play.
her there for a, for a walk. So yeah, we went up to Stonehouse. It was really lovely. It was a nice day actually. It's been rubbish. Don't talk about the
Oh,
it's been so
it is bad, but I, no, but I just keep saying it's fine 'cause it's getting it out the way. So May is a lovely dry month,
only for
you know,
Yes,
have the best spring weather ever.
dry. The grass is gonna go so brown, or it's so dry and
I mean, don't, I don't want it brown, but
That's what it was like for my wedding though. It was, it'd been that whole August had
yes, it had, it was so hot. Yeah.
out the front, they've got a, a so house. They've got like a really nice entrance and they have like a,
Yeah.
of grass like lawn with a statue and everything and it'd all gone brown and literally it like rained for like two days, like just before the wedding. It just allowed it to go a little bit greener. I was like, can
Yeah, I remember that. It was warm, wasn't it? Yeah, it was warm On your wedding day. Yeah,
yeah, we were
I think that was the year that I had a wedding in the August when there was a fire because the,
Oh
in, it was a field wedding and the next field set on fire. 'cause it was so hot. Yeah.
Yeah, I
it was so dry and you had to be so careful. Like I had an, I remember I had another wedding that year. And obviously all like fires and everything were banned so people had like booked fire pits and stuff, so it was a real shame 'cause they couldn't use them. And then there was this like videographer just rocking around smoking facts and putting 'em out on the grass. I was like
Who's this guy?
absolutely not, not somebody I booked, I was just managing the day.
put that disclaimer out
put Ella, I was like, whatcha doing a, do not smoke around the air, some B
No.
like, are you, you gonna set us all on fire? Yeah, that was crazy.
Oh,
So any, anything to report wedding wise? I mean, it's quiet, it's wedding se, it's not wedding season is it? You've got a baby.
Yeah, it's not, I mean, there's, there's not a lot of like wedding flowers
There's not a lot of stories to tell right now.
anyway. But I have I have been just organizing, like freelance help and things like that for weddings
Yeah. Nice.
weddings.
Getting prepped.
And replying to email. I've had a few inquiries for people wanting flowers, doing for like all sorts of, obviously I've, other than wedding flowers, I do like funeral flowers, birthdays, and other like mother's day's coming up and it's
Oh yeah, of course.
because I know it sounds really bad, but I normally, mother's Day is like my, out of everything, it's probably my busiest
Yeah, yeah.
and I'm not obviously doing any advertising or doing it this
No, yeah. It's still, it's quite soon, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Fair.
'cause I don't really wanna car off to be looked after at this age
Yeah, of course. And you wanna, it's your first Mother's day. You wanna be able to enjoy it and not be stressing about flowers.
Although I don't get flowers. Everyone's like, I don't buy you flowers 'cause I know you weren't with 'em. It's like, that's such a poor excuse. Like I
Yeah.
I
A hundred percent. 'cause you like flowers. Yeah. You are a florist. You love flowers. Yeah.
But
enough.
so yeah, just just being a mom at the moment, which is, I've become one of them. People are like, full-time mommy on
Full-time. Mom.
know what I mean? Like,
Hashtag
full-time, mom.
Yeah. Fair.
but. it's all gonna kick off though in April because I'm really busy in April and May,
Yeah.
so I'll
Nice.
regretting it and then wishing I was back here doing just Moming. Moming,
Momming life.
how's your week? How are you?
Yeah, I'm good. Well, my season's kicked off well and truly. I.
you are busy this week.
Yeah, it's weird. It's like, I mean, I love it, but yeah, we, we are straight back into it. We finished on in December and then we started again this week. So my first wedding of the year, to be fair, I was freelancing, so it wasn't too bad, but it was a really nice day. The couple was. So lovely. So I'd met them in January to do like their final meeting. And then they actually was really, so consider it was February, they had a barbecue for their wedding which was interesting.
Yeah. But actually it worked really well 'cause it's a guy barbecued outside and then he did it as like a station. So we got them up table by table which. Just wanted to throw it in there. Works very well. If you have like 60 guests and under, I'd say so. They only had like 50 people, so it's fine.
Okay.
I've got a wedding coming up this weekend. Right. I'm doing on the day management and when I did their final meeting, they were telling me like how they were gonna do food service. So they've got 160 people and they were gonna do it table by table up 'cause they're having like a pizza van, salad, buffet, that kind of vibe. I was like, right. Okay, that's fine. By the time I go over to a table and say, right guys, can you go up and get your food?
And they actually get outta their seats, go up, get their food, sit back down again. It takes between five and 10 minutes to table. Even if we say five minutes a table, if you're doing that with 16 tables, that's like two hours. So the pizza guy had said, it's gonna take me two hours, right? And I was like, what you need to remember is that as the top table, you're gonna eat first, right? So two hours later. You are gonna have finished your food like an hour and 45 minutes ago.
Like that's just too much. So we've completely changed it now. Yeah. Long. So we've changed it now.
No, thank you.
We're we are doing a direct to the table, so he's gonna put lovely salads on the tables. We're gonna run pizzas out to the tables. Lovely, lovely. I may, I feel like I mentioned this last week, if I did, apologies,
last week, but it's okay because I think people really need to understand
realize.
you're gonna send people up table by table, it's not okay.
There you go. I've mentioned it twice. It's that important. And it proved it last weekend because it, it was fine because there was only I think there was about six or six or seven tables.
interesting
fine.
worked with that amount of people
Yeah, it was lovely. It was great. And do you know what, it just, I love it because obviously I've got barbecue for my wedding
Yes.
people love it. Like people were loving life, like they were loading up their plates, like, oh
idea.
yeah.
love a barbecue. I'm a big
I can't wait now. Looking forward to it.
like for my family is like, as soon as it's like summer, we have like barbecue for dinner. Or when I lived at
Oh yeah. Love a barbecue dinner. Yes.
night and it would be
So good. So good.
So big fan, big fan of it here.
But one thing I also wanted to talk about
Oh.
is when you are looking for your photographer, just.
Oh.
Look at the reviews, speak to them a little bit about doing weddings. Like how many weddings have they done? So,
God.
I mean,
Oh
they were lovely people, don't get me wrong. But what you need to remember is your photographer is. They're not just to take photos, but to also manage that element. Okay? So when you wanna get a group shot together, if you have a coordinator at your venue who's not hands on, which happens, it depends what ven, it's not actually the venue coordinator's job to do that. If you hired a private coordinator like myself, fine. If you end up with someone like myself at your venue.
Great, but you just can't guarantee it. Yeah. It's not our job to be getting group shots together. Right. Honestly, the management at this wedding, at the fo, I just had to take over. In the end. I had to take over because I can't not, but that's because I'm used to doing it as a planner. But any other venue coordinator wouldn't be used to doing that. So I'm trying to get the groups to get shots together and then I'm like kind of almost.
You know, I take the couple off to do a first look of the room and I was like, okay, let's, you know, photographer, we're gonna do a first look of the room, which normally a photographer would stay in the room and take the photo so they get the reaction of the room. He didn't, he was behind them, so he didn't get that shot. And then I said to them in the room, I said to them in the room, like yeah, what are you doing? Really nice guy, by the way. So I feel bad, but no, I don't.
He and then I said, okay, so what, what are you guys doing next? Are you gonna go into couple shots? Are you gonna, have you got many group shots? Well, he gets this list. He gets his phone out, which I just detest because just come on. He gets up the old Facebook messenger that they've obviously been communicating on, and he gets this list up of group shots. They have honestly about 20 group shots, so straight away
Oh
should have said, guys, that's too many, but that he obviously hadn't advised him of that. Yeah. Like, but they wouldn't know that as a couple, so he should have told them. So I'm like, okay, we've got an hour and a half till they sit down. You probably should really get started on these 'cause it's gonna take a while.
Yeah.
like it was about to start raining, but I felt I had to manage that. So I had to be like, okay, cool. Who have you got, you know, in this group shot, who do you need for this group? And I was like, Tim, should I start going to get some of these people? And he was like, oh. Yeah. Yeah, if you could, if you could. Then I go over to where he's decided to do the group shots and the caterers put their gazebo up, ready to do the barbecue. And I was like, is that gazebo in your shot?
And he was like, oh yeah, but if the couple's all right with it, then don't worry about it. And I was like, no, hang on a second. I was like, look, a, if the couple are happy with it, I don't care. That's a no-No, I'm getting it moved.
giving me that anxiety. I'm joking that
Yeah. And I was like, and B, have you asked them? And he was like, no. Like, can you speak to them? And I was like, absolutely not.
what
No. So I just got, I just got the gazebo moved. I was like, look, give me two minutes. I get this moved, but honestly I just think it's so important. And I know sometimes people look at the price of photographers and they're like, oh God, it's so expensive. But this is the proof in the pudding. I mean, I dunno how much the guy charges, but how, why you would spend more money on a professional photographer.
thing is, what you have to remember is you might be spending a lot of money, but they, these are the photos that you're gonna look back on forever. You know, hopefully you'll be married forever,
And hopefully they won't have ABO in them.
Exactly. You know, there's only so much Photoshop can do. Yeah.
Well, I don't feel like this guy would've done that,
No, he wasn't a Photoshop train.
only because I walked over and I was like, hang on, hang on.
Oh
The angle you're taking that photo at
At
is that gonna say better?
Yeah.
Yeah. Oh God.
You see. It's
But there you go. There you go. Hey, at least we noticed it. We spotted it. But yeah, so, and then for my wedding, things are progressing.
Oh.
I had my engagement shoot the other day.
you?
Yeah, we had a little, well, we just went to our venue actually, which was like quite cute afterwards because she said normally the photographer that we've booked says, you know, we can go wherever, you can go to like a woods or anything. But actually she posted on her Instagram afterwards that she'd done an engagement shoot at the couple's venue.
Yeah,
Us as a couple.
was us. That's who
The couple
to.
was me. And she said it actually works really well because it gave her time to like suss out the venue. I was telling her where everything was happening. So because obviously I'm not gonna be there on the morning, I'm gonna be getting ready. So it was like. It gave her like ample time to be able to look around and be like, okay, so on the day we can do this on this spot. And, and it was just really good. And it actually gave us a really good idea of like how long the couple shots are gonna take.
You know, the kind of things that we're gonna be doing. She just never really know what to expect. And she learnt from us like, we don't wanna do post stuff. We were literally like, you know, a bit like what you did. We were walking along and pretending to have a little dance and he was like, picking me up, swinging me round, like.
Richard, oh God.
That was
Richard
so, that's such a nice picture though.
like, oh my God. But
That,
not, we
no,
anything.
it was something underneath.
I
Yeah.
but it wasn't
So sometimes, you know, when you put a jumper on and you hear a and, but it doesn't actually do anything. You're like, oh, okay. See? Yeah. That was really nice. Oh, the guy who split his trousers. Oh, why? Who split the trousers at your wedding?
No one. I dunno. I was saying imagine if Richard has split his trousers and
Have I ever told you that story about the guy who split his chart?
Please tell
Oh.
pray.
So this couple really, really good looking couple as well, that just arrived and he went to climb out the car and I kid you not from front to back, they completely ripped, like complete like you could see all his pants.
Oh
There's actually a video of me on Instagram, right. So we got him to take his trousers off. Car, but stay in the car. The bride is like crying of laughter, like she's just laughing. I took the trousers and I, there's a video on my Instagram of me just sitting on this bench at the venue and just stitching his trousers up. Yes.
I didn't realize
Poor guy.
I just thought you were
He was,
and I didn't realize you were
no,
someone's back
I kid you not front to back. Front to back. Literally when I took them off, they were split. They were nearly split in half. It was so bad. But yeah.
What a story.
a story to tell. Lovely.
so funny.
so that's, that's my week. I'm really struggling at the minute though, to find some nice wedding jewelry. And I had honestly, right, so I my friends bought me some beautiful earrings for Christmas and my mum bought me the max matching necklace, but when the necklace came, it was just a little bit like we just, yeah. So we sent, we sent that back. Sorry, mom.
So
No, it wasn't her fault. It wasn't her fault I had picked it. But you know, when it just comes and like, yeah, it's my fault. Like the, the little embellishment that was on it was really small. It looked a lot bigger in the picture. So anyway, so I found this stuff a really nice one online yesterday, all to it. And it came and. You know what? The, the company had gone to town really nice in a beautiful box, a ribbon on it. I opened it up.
There was a card, you know, they, it, the envelope had my name on it. It all printed. I opened it up and there was the information in there and a little, yeah, really lovely. They'd even sprayed the tissue paper with perfume. It had put a sticker on to say the name of the perfume. I know. I was like,
that's,
all out.
yeah.
I get the necklace out and it's got a, and the, the chain has got like tangles. It's got like a knot in it. So I sat there for ages trying to get this bloody knot out. I thought, I can't, oh, oh, I can't do this. So I emailed them and just said, look, really like the necklace, but sent a picture. I was like, look, it's got, it's got tangled in the post, whatever. It's got a knot in it. So they replied. They were like, oh, we're really, really sorry.
If you get a cocktail stick, you should be able to get the knot out. If not, that's fine. You can send it back to us, but you need to send it back to us. And I was like, hang on a second. Right? You've gone all this way to make this lovely, you know?
everywhere.
Yes. Right. But you can't, if that was me and that was my brand. Right. Not being funny, but I got something picked up from London the other day. So it, it was only something light, which this would be, it's a tiny little necklace, cost me one pound 50, like to get every, to go and collect it and bring it to my house. Right.
Yeah.
they should just, they should have just said, we're really sorry. We're gonna pick it up. And we've, we've already sent another one out to you.
Yeah,
Do you know what I mean?
that would be good customer service. Not spraying the tissue with perfume
Yeah. You know, save on your perfume, use your money to do, you know what? And if they wanted to claim it back from whoever they used to deliver it, Royal Mail, whatever, fine. 'cause it's not their fault at the end of the day. But I was just like, hang on. So I've gotta try and get a cocktail stick and shove it, which I did try and do, but honestly,
you
yeah, I tried to, but I just couldn't. It is so tight. The knot.
when that happens. Ah, you can never undo them.
No.
like so bad, but
So, yeah, have struggling with the old jewelry. I'm not gonna lie. Not gonna lie.
I was trying to think where I got mine from.
Yes. Where did you get yours from?
hmm. I can't remember.
I cannot remember.
tell you where I went, I went to F Hines
Oh, okay.
bit of like
Yeah,
wouldn't normally do you know what I mean? They're kind
yeah,
you wouldn't normally think of an F Hines anymore. Where, where would you find one? But there's one in Bletchley
Bit like Warren James.
Yeah, splashing it out. I I went there just, I got myself like a little
Okay.
arians, but, and, and it was really reasonably priced as well, and the woman was really helpful.
And did you wear a bracelet?
No, I didn't,
Oh no. We talked about this, didn't we? Yeah.
really, I don't really wear bracelets anyway though. But if you, I dunno. Do you normally wear bracelets?
Yeah, I wear, well, I haven't got my, I had, I always wear a Tiffany bracelet, but I broke it at our wedding last year, obviously. But I always wear a watch as well, so I feel like I'd feel bare
Yeah.
I didn't have one on, and I did try a Beau, Pandora's just bought out a really nice range, to be fair. Not really Nora.
fan of Thomas sbo, so I love Thomas
Oh yeah. I didn't even think of them.
they're a little bit
Hmm.
different. They do some
Yeah.
but I feel like a lot of this stuff's very
Yeah.
samey,
mainstream. Yeah.
Thomas Sbo does some really nice pieces. Pieces
Well, the, the place I got my neck the earrings from, which are beautiful, but the necklace was a little bit understated, was a place called Lillian Ru. But the problem is with these websites are that they're all online. So to return this necklace that was like 60 pounds cost me seven pound 50. To return it 'cause you have to do it. Royal Mail tracked. 'cause they're like, well if it doesn't get to us and you can't track it then and it gets lost and you lost your money, you're like, oh, great.
I was thinking of I got jewelry from was Etsy. I went on Etsy and
Yes. Well this is where I got the other one from. That's got the knot in it.
Oh,
Yeah. I've got return. It's just a chore. I just wanna go in somewhere I go. Yeah. Lovely. Love that. Tried it on.
go to
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'll have a little look. I'll have a little look.
Have a little browse. Oh
Anyway I never think this happened this week
Oh, yes, yes.
and more, right? So guys, this is strife in the wedding strife. We love the word strife, don't we? Strife.
a
This is got, this is, wait,
rife? We made up a word strife.
I'm gonna say strive. This is gone. This has circulated the wedding industry, right? If you are in the wedding industry.
yeah.
Yeah. Like where if you are in the wedding industry, you aren't seeing this, are you under a fricking rock? Everybody is kicking off ble right and center. There was basically it, what was it, an article? I didn't really see it because it got taken down before I saw it. It was a blog post
blog
from a big UK blog essentially. Who stated do we name? I felt like we probably shouldn't name.
Maybe not. Well, I dunno, because everyone else was like
Everyone's freaking said it. It's bribe book. It's bribe book.
it's a It's a wedding.
yeah. Whose suppliers pay to be on?
Yeah.
Directory. So directory and they have a blog and they put out this article to say that do not say when you go into your hair and makeup eyes, they, they, they really target the hair and makeup. That's what made me laugh 'cause you could say it about any supplier they did. They basically said, don't say that you're having a wedding 'cause you'll get it cheaper.
They literally, they did. It was like, it was like, it like top 10 tips on how to save money
Was it? I don't know.
it was like, how to say, money on Wedding Beauty was the, was the article on their
Oh, okay.
six of their tips was, don't use the m or W words. And considering they are a marriage and wedding directory, why would
and considering hair and makeup artists pay them
there?
to be on their blog
Yeah.
do you know what just really frustrates me is this is something that circulates the wedding industry all the time. Like we are constantly fighting a battle to say it. Doesn't matter whether you are doing a wedding or a party. Like I've just taken a book in from a couple for a party, I've done a wake for today. It doesn't matter what I'm doing, my rate. Is the same,
Yeah.
feel like we're constantly in this battle as the wedding industry. And yes, there probably are suppliers out there who are assholes and do probably charge more if it's a wedding or whatever, but the decent people that have good testimonials and do this as their profession and are experience and knowledgeable will not charge you more because it's a wedding. Unless there's like a valid reason. So I was speaking to like a hair and makeup artist who said, yeah, look, I do charge more.
That's like, I'm paying a hell of a lot more for my hair and makeup than my bridesmaids. But she said, that's because you are the bride. Like, we wanna put more time into you and everything. That's more time is more money.
More money, yeah, exactly. That's, that's the thing. Unless there's a valid reason, like you say with the bride, the bride, it takes longer.
Yeah,
you get like touchups and everything.
get your trial
yeah.
as well.
included in that too. But also with weddings, anything like that. If you are supplier and you're working in that industry, generally you are, you know, you're qualified, you've paid
Yeah.
you have more knowledge, you are, you know, you're sort of specialist in your field.
Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah.
someone's wedding because, or party. 'cause it's like a big special occasion.
Yeah.
and you perhaps you may charge more than someone else that just is just doing like retail. For me, like for, for florist, if
Yeah.
you know, if wedding floristry is, is, is. It's not niche, but it's like a you need, you need to be qualified to do it. You
To, yeah,
and you are
yeah,
the experience as well. Like
yeah,
somebody for your wedding and you, why would you want some, anyone off the street just to do your wedding
yeah. Exactly.
It's just, you know, I'm sorry, but you wouldn't, so that's why you perhaps pay a bit more for someone
Yeah,
just does retail to someone that may specialize in wedding fas 'cause it's a specialist.
because Yeah, but at the same time, regardless of if somebody came to you for a party for a cent, right, so say they had 10 tables, the centerpiece would be the same price, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Regardless if it was an event or the wedding. It's the same with me with planning like a party. If you come to me and you want me to plan your party, yes, it's gonna cost less, but not because it's a party, because A, it's gonna be a lot less time. So for example, yeah, I'm planning
do with wedding or party or whatever. Yeah,
Exactly. I'm planning a party at the moment with, with a, with a really nice couple. So there, there it's two, it's in two months time. Whereas when I plan a wedding, it could be anything from, you know, the, the average is kind of six months to 18 months and also. Yeah, and it's a lot bigger thing. So for this party, it's only 30 people, so it's less time. It's, you know, they, they don't need me as long on the day, it's less of my time. It's, it's all these kind of things that.
You have to think about like if it's gonna be less time, but it's the same as a photographer, right? If you hired a photographer to go to your birthday party that starts at 7:00 PM and you want them to stay till 10:00 PM that's three hours work. A wedding is 12 hours work. So yes, it's gonna cost less to photograph a party because it's their time
You
and it's just so frustrating. I think it's just frustrating because we are, like I say, we're always fighting this as suppliers to say to people, we don't charge more because it's a wedding. It's and, and I see comments all the time on Facebook groups. Oh, as soon as you say wedding, the price goes up. No, it fucking doesn't.
No, it don't. what planet are you living on? Ugh.
Yeah,
It's so true though. It's constant. Like, I've had like comments at me, like from family and friends, like, oh, I
yeah.
more on it. 'cause it's a way,
Oh, is a wedding.
I don't
No.
and also you don't realize the work that's involved. I charge what I charge, whether it's a wedding or a party. But like you say, if there's less, if there's less to do, then obviously I'm not gonna
Yeah,
You know, it's,
and you are right as well. Yeah, and what you were saying earlier is right as well, because what you're essentially saying is, is that, say for example, you are a florist on a high street doing retail, you probably are gonna charge less than somebody that is just niche weddings because you can only do certain amount of weddings a week, and you can only, realistically, we only get wedding work for six months of the year.
So yeah, maybe they're charging it so they can actually earn money and stay afloat and be a profitable business.
yeah. That's
Because you have, if you don't make profit, like how do you, like we have to pay our mortgage. Like I pay myself a wage so I can pay my mortgage and things like that. At the end of the day, this is my job. This is my serious job. And if you are booking a supplier, I saw a supplier the other day just going off on a tangent that wrote on a Facebook comment. Somebody was looking for you know, like the bridesmaid hangers and the. Robes and all that. She was like, contact me.
I do my business not to make profit, so I've got really good prices. And I thought, well, I'm sorry, but if you wanna go and book somebody that's basically doing this as a hobby, then that's just ridiculous because it clearly, if they've got a full-time job and they're like, I'll just do this on the side, but not get paid for it. Like, they're not gonna be as knowledgeable, they're not gonna be as experienced. You getting somebody that's a hobbyist.
Yeah,
Exactly. Exactly. This is our job. This is what we are passionate about. This is what we live to do and we have to do it well. 'cause otherwise, if we start getting bad reviews or people don't book us, we ain't paying our mortgage.
That's it. And that's what, what annoys me is I think a lot of people might view like, especially what I do, I'll get it all the time. And it's so annoying. Oh, it must be so lovely being a florist. When I retire, I wanna be a florist.
Yeah.
a nice hobby. I'm like, it's literally brat backbreaking work. It's hard work. And it's also my career.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's your career and you love it, and you're passionate about it. Yeah. Yeah.
I, that annoys me. But
was very frustrating.
Yeah.
was
lot of
a frustrating thing. And I think what's really frustrating is as a platform in general, it's like the they've now just bought out another blog that's like, and this is what really frustrates me, and I've spoke about this before in the podcast, is people's realistic expectations of how much things cost. And they've just bought out an article about how much marquee weddings cost and it is on, and, and things like this make me realize why people come to me and they're like.
Oh yeah, I've got 150 people and I wanna do a marquee wedding for 30 grand. And then when I break it down and say to them, guys, this it, it's unrealistic. And it's people like this that are setting, they're in the wedding industry and they're setting unrealistic expectations to a couple. And that's unfair. And I think that's really unfair because they don't know. Couples don't know how much things cost.
So when you're then clicking on an article that tells you that toilet higher is a hundred pounds.
That's a load of rubbish. That's a load of shit. Excuses the pun.
What I mean absolutely ridiculous. Let's face it, if you're having a marquee wedding, the cheapest toilets I can get
Yeah.
A one plus one, which essentially means one women's cubicle and one men's cubicle, and a one al right. So they will only do up to about 50 people. 480 pounds and that's as a my wedding supplier rate. Okay. A hundred pounds. They sue having a marquee wedding. A hundred, 150 people.
hole
Your toilets are gonna be a grand, a se. Most of my couples, the toilets are a thousand pound, like being really realistic. So when you go into an article and you go, oh, great, we can afford a wedding. Our toilets are only gonna cost a hundred pounds. And then when you start to realize how can they be put in that kind of article, how are they allowed to do that?
Yeah, and also how are they backing up their information
Exactly who the hell is right in that?
Yeah, exactly. I think it's just a load of roll rubbish. But it's click bait, isn't it? If people
Yeah, you're right.
they have
You're right.
they think, oh yeah, this is great. And they've obviously earned money for the clicks that they get on it. It's just. A lot of
Yeah. It's bad, isn't it?
like obviously with us on the podcast, is that we are being like honest and transparent
It's so true.
it's, it's the other thing about like, when they say about mentioning wedding and don't mention wedding, don't mention marriage to your supplier and why would you wanna lie? Like why
Why do you wanna lie? Yeah, I actually saw,
like,
I actually saw a few hair and makeup artists, but they obviously everybody was livid, like, and a lot of people were really upset about it as well. Which is understandable.
hadn't they? They'd used, they'd used
Yes.
on a directory as part of that, like on the
Slaying them, basically. Oh my God. But a lot, I was saying like if I turned up on a, on a thinking, it was a apart for a, also for a start, if you said like, oh yes, my 30th birthday, and then it's, you're not gonna be getting your hair and makeup artist there at seven in the morning, aren't you? Like, come on.
like no one mentioned that this is a wedding, you
Yeah, everyone be quiet, hide the dress. But I saw a few of them say if I turned up at the wedding and it was actually a wedding and they've told me it's a party I'd leave and I do not blame them in the slightest.
then you, the couple would be in bridge for contract. Surely,
Yeah,
if they've signed one, which they probably wouldn't, if they've signed one, they've lied. Well then they'd be well within their right
yeah,
like if they haven't, then they leave. Well, they're, that's their tough shit in it.
exactly.
The end of the day. You should never lie like that anyway. It's not right to do that
Not, is it?
you, if you, if I turned up and someone had said it was a party, it was a wedding or something, like, you don't realize the extra pressure as well.
Yeah.
Like you'd
Yeah. That's what a lot of people were saying.
that sort
Yeah.
you know, there's a
It is just a whole different cat of fish. Exactly. It really is. It really is.
So
So, yeah. Well, well, we'll put that, we'll put them to write. This is why I love the podcast. So like you say, we can, we can put the truth out there.
exactly.
Did you also see this week the story about the woman who bought her, I think it was on vintage she'd bought her dress. She bought her wedding dress and every or somebody had delivered it. It's actually quite sad 'cause they'd delivered it. They'd put it on her doorstep as delivery drivers do. Which fine. I mean, it really annoys me when they don't do that and they're like, you need to go and pick it out from the post office.
post office
Ugh.
literally the post office never open
Yeah, what the, what the hell? I don't even know where the post office is.
Yeah, exactly. What?
And they'd, somebody had unfortunately stolen it from her doorstep. And then I think that, although obviously she got it refunded and stuff, this, it was a particular dress that she'd seen, loved, tried on, but couldn't afford, managed to get it on vintage. So obviously she's probably, it's unrealistic to say that she's ever gonna find it again in her size on vintage.
Yeah. Yeah, sure.
Sad, isn't it? Bless her. But then also it was a bit like, you know, because it's been so hot in the press, it's like, is someone gonna rip open it and be like, oh, screw that. Like what am I gonna do with the wedding dress? Actually, I think I see a, no, I didn't. That was a different storyline. I thought I saw a follow up where it was found where she was like, where it was found in a bush or something, but I think it was something else. But
just don't know
yeah. How sad.
someone's parcels. But if you opened it and it was someone's
Yeah.
like wouldn't you just like
Sure. Well, that's, that's what she wrote in the article, that she's kind of hoping that they'd think, oh God, you know what, actually, and also they are quite hard to sell wedding dresses secondhand. So actually, hopefully they'd be like, well, we can't sell it, or we can't get any money from it, and just return it to the doorstep. But yeah,
It is really
very sad.
I do think it's good that people are like getting secondhand wedding dresses
Yeah.
things, especially vintage. Vintage is
Becoming bigger. Yeah. There's actually a they're called, let me just get up. It's called like ps I wanna say it's called,
oh,
let me just.
specifically for weddings
Yeah, it's purely for wedding dresses. Yeah. And they do you can get rental. You could do rental. Oh, PS bridal rental, it's called. They're really nice girls. They actually did a shoot at the venue I'm getting married at recently. They, it's everything secondhand or, and you, or you could, and you can rent it or you can buy it. And I just think, what a great idea, because you only use it once.
Yeah, exactly. Like I got married, obviously my dress is now stored on top of the wardrobe and I mean, I mean?
You are like, what am I ever gonna do with it? Go. Do you know what, I think this with bridesmaid dresses as well, and actually I've got a couple for sale at the minute on vintage where I've been a bridesmaid. I cannot shift them because obviously it's really hard because actually as somebody who's planning a wedding. You obviously want all your bridesmaids to be in the same color or a similar style. Yeah. So selling them is hard.
But at the same time, I mean I'm now selling these, 'cause I moved house and was like, I need to get rid of these dresses. 'cause they've sat in my wardrobe for like a couple of years. I've worn them once. I'm never gonna use them again.
never gonna wear 'em, are you?
No.
You probably, I wouldn't even wear 'em out because I'd be like, I, I,
Well no. It's like a full on, yeah. Wedding dress. Yeah. Bryce May's dress. Yeah. Weirdo.
me. I'm just in my wedding
It's. I feel like that we need another, they almost need to do bride may dresses or another business needs to start up this all like secondhand bride may and maybe even they get the colors together. So it's like, oh, these are all one color, these are the sizes, the, do you know what I mean?
something.
Yeah, yeah. Because you are gonna want, obviously somebody's not gonna come on Finit and buy a, or they potentially will, but I haven't had any interest. But if anybody is looking for.
yeah. What's your vintage tag?
I don't even know, is that a thing?
I dunno. So with my wedding dress, like, so we are not having Lily Christen because we're not religious,
Fair.
I thought it'd be nice to try and have it made into the dress for some
Yeah.
for her.
Oh,
the
yes.
like my wedding dress and have it made into something a prom
Yes. While I've seen
in it
there's a woman on TikTok that turns your wedding dress into teddy bears and blankets.
that's cute. Yeah.
I'll see if I can find her later and send it to you.
idea. I'm just well up for this. Like reusing, like,
Yes.
styling, you know,
Hundred percent.
style. It's good, it's good for the environment, but it's also I think you can do something really nice and sentimental with it. Like I
Yeah, a hundred percent
dress and
definitely.
even like give it I mean, could you give your wedding dress to a friend? But I, I dunno if you would. 'cause
No, that's weird.
same
Exactly.
that you wore
No.
something. Borough
We should definitely go into that. Yeah. Similar photos.
one, Anna?
Do you wanna borrow my, I could borrow your dress. I'll take mine back.
it. That's
We should go into that. We'll go into that another week, shall we? About things that you can do that buy, that are secondhand places to buy them from. Yeah, let's do that.
People should know that
Should we go on to the listeners' questions?
So what have we got this week
Do you wanna do the first one, all listeners?
Someone has asked, should we do place cards?
Yes. Yes and yes. I saw this and was like, yes.
otherwise, how does anyone know where they're
no.
Are you you not?
I'm not, so I was actually all controversial. That was very, is it hypocritical of me? Yeah, no, so, right. This is my point. So I am only having, let me just put it out there first. I'm only having 45 people to our, I say I, we are only having 45 people. He keeps saying to me as well, oh, I hear you talking about your wedding on the podcast. Ha. Oops, sorry.
oh, sorry.
I, we are only having 45 people and we're having a barbecue and we're having it so the barbecue gets lit at five o'clock and it, and it, you know, it will go until everybody's in. So there's no specific, we're not having everybody announced to sit down and then we are being announced in. We're not doing that. It's just the Barbie's lit. You can sit in the room, you can sit outside on the grass. You can sit on one of the outside tables, sit where you want, eat. Eat when you want.
So ours is very informal and I think if you're doing like barbecue or street food or something like that kind of vibe, it works well. It works well. If only, if you've got a small amount of guests or if you have got a hundred guests, 150 guests, it works well. If you've got a marquee loads of outside tables, like you need to have more seating than you've got guests to be able to do it.
Yeah.
If you've got a hundred, 150 people, you need a lot of different various food station points. So four different types of street food or four different stations serving barbecue food. Do you know what I mean? Like so, because otherwise you've got a queue of 150 people is ridiculous. Whereas for mine, it's only gonna be 45 people max. It's,
Yeah.
and people aren't gonna cue.
amount of
Exactly. So that's what I would say. But if you're doing, if you're doing the norm, which majority, 99% of people not necessarily do a sit down meal, but have guests announce to sit down at their place settings, and then they're announced in as bride and groom and they all groom and groom or bride and bride and they sit on their top table. You do then need a place card because,
Yeah. Like
yeah.
they're sitting. I think
Yeah.
or like to be told where they are. I think, I do think that people like that and also
Yeah.
to kind of control where certain people are sitting. So if
Well, yeah, it's very true
you know,
family and Sure.
together or you
Yeah.
I mean? You wanna put certain people on the same table, just think that you can kind of manage that bit better and if that's something that you need to do. So I do think
Yeah.
are
Also massively needed if you're having a three course sit down meal and is plated and being served. 'cause the caterers need to know where your dietaries are.
Yeah,
So what I always ask for is, so place cards and then a plan of where each guest is, sit in if they've got any allergies. So when we go to the table, you know. Haley for example, is gluten-free? We'd, we'd look at the name cards. Yeah. Haley, there you go. Oh, you're gluten-free. Here you go. And there's not,
glue.
hate it when you have to have that conversation of being like, oh yeah, you're good. Or I hate, one of my biggest pet hates is, is when a vegetarian gets meat put in front of them. Like I absolutely hate it.
Yeah.
they have to go, I'm sorry, but I'm vegetarian. I just hate that. No.
I'm actually vegetarian.
Sorry, like, yeah, well they're having to inhale the beef. So yeah, they are very important for like, for catering and stuff, there's a very big difference between formal, in informal seating. We should go into it more in depth another time. But a lot of couples go to me, oh, we're having a really informal day. And then they start going into it and I'm like, hang on, this isn't informal at all. If you're having a load of picnic benches.
Because actually, like I say, you need more seating than you have guests to be able to do informal seating. So if you go, oh, I've got 50 guests and I'm gonna set up five tables of 10, it doesn't work. Because then if you've got like a family that can't sit together or you know
it's not gonna work. Plan out. You
No.
like there, there needs to be space for people to like spread out
And to do that. Yeah. Or if you want exact and, and you don't want empty chairs, you need to do place cards. But yeah, let, we'll go into that in more in depth another time.
actually
Yeah.
topic.
Oh, now it's play a time that you can't have, you can do without place cards. Sorry, just hopping back in is you can do, like, for example, say you've got a table of 10, do a table plan with who's sitting on that table and then let 'em sit where they want on the table. You could do that.
just sit
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bay iss annoying for the caterers. You do then need to expect us to go over and go like, Hailey,
the veggie?
hay, hay,
free?
hay Hailey, the gluten free. But if you haven't got many veg, if you haven't got many, like at my wedding, I've got two, like two diet requirements. So, so it's fine.
That's
So yeah.
though. That
Yeah. Next up. We are going to be having our final meeting with our venue. Was wondering if anyone had any advice or tips on what questions to ask, what to prepare or what will be asked. Thank you in advance.
Hmm.
Yeah, I can, I can answer this 'cause this is what I did for 10 years. Venue coordination.
I am. I am
Do you know what, this is very true though, because when I worked in venue, I'd always send an email like. This is all the information like we're booking in your final meeting. This is the kind of information I'm gonna ask you.
Yeah.
But as a planner, now obviously the venue contacts me and I always get the generic email to book the, the men the final meeting, or if it's like an on the day management, the couple will say to me, oh, you know, this is when our final meeting is blah, blah, blah, blah. And the amount of times we do turn up and like they haven't even briefed. Obviously I know what I need, but. That they wouldn't have briefed. I, I had it recently and my couple were like, I'm so glad you were there.
'cause I wouldn't have had any of that information. I pulled it all 'cause I, no, no, just don't even bother saying anything to them. 'cause it's not for them to have to stress about And I'm sitting there like, yep, this is happening this time. And they're like, great. But if they didn't have that, if you rocked up. 'cause you do need a lot of We need all your time in.
of information they need at that
Ti
Yeah,
dietaries, your,
yeah.
You like you say your timings, your logistics, your, yeah. There's all sorts.
and
Yeah.
little details as well. I found that they,
Yeah.
from me
Is that? Yeah, like what do you wanna be called on the day? Because some people are funny about, they don't wanna be called Mr. And Mrs. Smith because they don't want their dad or mom to know that they're changing their name. 'cause they can be like family politics, you know, who's sitting on the top table, any family politic, all these kind of things. There is a lot. So yes. Sorry just to answer that. So yes, take your final number. I'd say as a minimum, take your final numbers.
Dietary
take. Your dietary requirements. Take it. At this point, you might not have a, you probably won't have a table plan at your final meeting. Ask them when they ask, but ask them when they'll need your table plan.
it. Yeah. You about sort
timings.
ceremony's there, they're gonna wanna know Yeah. Timings, but also like music
Yeah. Well, yeah. It depends if they're controlling it.
Yeah, I
you Yeah. You'll wanna know
PA
your art. Yeah.
that's a
You wanna know what connections. So if they've got a speaker system, which you probably would've asked that before the final meeting.
think a plug
Yeah. How do I bring it? And also, are they gonna control the music or do you need to assign someone to control your music is always very important. Work weather plan. Yeah. Yeah, timings. Who all your important roles on the day? So who your bridesmaids are, who your groomsmen are, who your bride who your bridesmaid did I say bridesmaids? Who, who is the bride? Who your parents are? If you've got parents that are passed away or whatever, you probably wanna let them know.
That kind of information. Yeah, there's. There's, there's a lot of details how you're gonna be getting to the venue where things like I would ask if I was arriving to the venue and I was having a civil ceremony, I'd wanna know where the registrar's gonna meet me.
Yeah, that's true because you go
where did you meet yours?
So I, I went up into the little room on the left.
Yes, you did.
the house? Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
basically.
a lovely room. Yeah.
asked me lots of questions that
yeah, quite.
the answer to.
Quite a few things there. Maybe I should write a blog on this.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
actually I could have done with that information. I mean, to be fair, I had, obviously you came with us to our last meeting anyway,
Yes, I did.
I'd sort of done a
I was there with the info.
and Yeah. And I, I was like, I came prepared.
She came prepared.
with all my
She had her wedding plan.
Yeah,
Rose wedding plan is what you need on your wedding date. Do you know what? If anyone's really struggling, email me. [email protected] uk. I will send you a copy of my wedding plan. It's everything you could ever possibly need to know about our wedding. There you go.
on there that will
That's gold. That is that I've just offered Try there.
take up the offer people email.
As long as you leave me a Google review, I'll happily give it to you for free.
Obviously
Yeah, a five star. Lovely.
review.
Cool. I think that's us for today, isn't it?
that's a
We've done a late one tonight. I'm, I'm, I'm sleepy.
I'm
We're both like, oh,
Oh, I need,
oh, you gotta eat dinner.
Chili Con. I
Oh, nice.
in the
We did, we did. I I've already had my dinner. I had stir fry. It was very nice.
Love
The air fryer. I'm a new air fryer person. I'm driving everyone crazy like this is the best thing ever. Why did I not buy one?
There was a Channel
Yeah,
on air fryers the other
what? I need to watch it.
I mean,
of my best friends, she's had hers for like three years, like before anyone even knew the air fryers were a thing and she's like, oh my God,
my mother-in-law has had an air fryer for years. Ge, genuinely,
even know there was a thing.
has had an air fryer for about 10 years. She was way
What have you seen that you can make Cream egg croons in them?
What? Oh my God. Send me that recipe. I love a C cream egg. I've got
Oh,
cupboard
for me to, oh, I,
time I go down my, hello?
you've gotta have that for dessert, surely.
Oh yeah.
Oh
yeah.
Oh yeah. So fricking expensive though. For one tiny little thing, like it is so small.
it is
Sorry, we're we're
smaller.
about food again. We're talking about food again. But yes, they have got smaller.
Yeah, I have, well.
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