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woo.
I dunno why I felt like it's been ages since I spoke to you, but it's only been like eight days.
know, I thought that we haven't chatted much in between this
That's very true.
of like, we'll be texting away or whatever,
Yeah, we have enough.
haven't. Yeah,
are you?
I'm good. I'm still
I've missed you. It's 'cause you're such a busy bean nowadays, like Oh
have to work again.
yeah, she's actually working and she's busy. It is just nuts in it. Like how quick the weeks are going.
literally, I can't believe it. I'm like, we're nearly in March,
Literally.
obviously a short month and I feel like it always feels short. 'cause January is just like so long.
Yeah, but I felt like January went so quick this year, but I was just so fricking busy. Yeah. And then, but people always say this about Jet February being a shorter month, but it's like two days shorter.
two days is a a lot.
Two days is a lot, but you know what's coming up mate.
Pancake day.
Yeah. You
Yes.
like
we're on the same wavelength.
I'm so excited 'cause it's so late this year. Like what's going on?
a flex actually is if someone proposed to you on pancake day
Oh,
days of the year,
best day.
to you on Valentine's
Yes,
Play?
it's a yes from me.
Straight yes from
Will you marry me written on the pancakes? Oh, what a brilliant idea. But I never understand this. Right. And I was having a roundabout this the other day, but what, why? Right? Obviously Pancake Day is linked to Easter. Yeah. Right. I'm not religious in the slightest here, but why does Easter move each year?
Because like surely that event happened on the same day, whenever it happened years and years and years ago to Jesus on the cross, But surely that happened on a set day, the same as when he was born. And we now celebrate Christmas on the 25th of December. That doesn't move. So why does Easter move?
it for you 'cause I have, I have, I have
Do you know? No, go. Go ahead. Please tell. Tell all
changes dates because it's based on the lunar calendar,
what.
a cycle of 29 and a half days. So the date of the full moon varies. So the date of Easter also varies.
What's Easter gotta do with the moon? I thought it was to do with Jesus on the cross.
confused.
Invite somebody please write in and tell us
Oh, okay. Okay. Because I think, I think it's to do with the way that they follow the church follows the calendar.
what.
Eastern, our Orthodox churches use the cal this calendar, which means Easter often falls on a different day than other churches.
What?
Early Christians celebrated Easter on the same day as Passover. The date
Right.
fluctuates each year because the Jewish calendar is based on solar lunar cycles.
my God. This is confusing.
from what I'm getting from all this information is that that each different, well, some religions follow a certain calendar, which I guess dates back, but the calendar change must change. So the date changes.
But why does the date change of the day? Basically what we're saying is we don't actually know when Jesus rose from the cross.
No, I
That that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm taking from That probably didn't happen. We don't actually know what day it happened.
Pancake day. So isn't it, you
Yeah.
then you fast.
clear out.
you, you do lent don't you?
Because isn't that to do with, wasn't he on the cross on pancake day and then he late and then he was just there for like six weeks or something
And
and then, and then he rose, rose back again. He was alive again.
isn't the egg meant to represent the stone that pushes
Something,
cave that he
yeah, something like that. But then also wasn't, isn't lent something to do with the people wandering the desert for six weeks and not having anything to eat?
I should know this 'cause I
We don't. Yeah,
of England school and I did lots of
same.
when I was in primary school. He sit to a church all the time and I
I know
I
I was in the brownies. Don't, didn't, I don't know. We're gonna have to do some research, but guys, right in, let us know why is Easter not on a set? Yeah. If he rose from the cross or whatever he did. Surely that was on a set day, so surely it should be the same day. Anyway,
But
what has happened,
of pancakes,
of
imagine if
of pancakes.
pancake day and then you just had like
Yeah,
themed, like not themed
yeah,
was like pancakes. You know, like you had your cheesecake station,
yeah. Pancake station banging.
a pancake
I, uh, but do you like a thick, fluffy pancake, or do you like a crepe?
On Pancake day, I do crepes.
Yeah, same.
more in. You don't feel sick so quickly.
But I do love a fluffy, thick American pancake. Banging.
made some really nice banana ones the other day. They were
no.
They
Yeah. Yeah. I've got, actually got a tasting in on Pancake day and I'm like, oh, wonder if they'll throw us a few pancakes at the same time, you know? Come on guys. But that's a good idea, isn't it? You know? I remember like back at school and then you, upon pancake day, you'd get your pancakes or like if you worked somewhere that had a canteen, you might get a pancake like
I used to get
so.
coming home and like my mom and dad would do
I know.
for dinner.
day of the year. I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I,
agree.
when I got this taste and booked in, I was like, uh, I need to make sure what time I'm getting home for.
we were when we looked it up in Cornwall, but when it was, and we,
Yeah.
and not February. It's
Yeah, because I love February 'cause of pancake day. Anyway, how's your week been? What you've been up to?
Oh, it's been good. Thank you. It's been quite busy actually. So I, um, I went to see, uh, a bride about her wedding this week and it
Nice.
it's actually the first time in a long time I have been asked for a different style of bouquet.
Oh,
So,
all.
I think I'm seeing this a lot now with the trends for this year, but, um, it's become very popular for, it's like a hand tied, so a bouquet, like a posey is probably the
Yeah.
it. But it's, uh, it's just full of really open blossy blooms like no
Oh, nice. Yeah,
like, so, you
I know what you mean.
Lilac blooms are like a
Yeah. Yeah.
of come out the sides and then
Oh, beautiful. Yeah.
like really open flex roses and she wants it all white. But then like a little bit of the cent showing of some with that yellow e tone, so
Nice,
are actually wearing lemon, which I was like,
cute. Yeah, that looks so nice. Very spring. When's it? When's the wedding?
beginning of August,
Oh, okay. Mm. I thought you were gonna say like June or something. You know, like
like,
with those colors.
kind of spring colors,
Yeah.
it just, there was such a very pale shade of lemon. They're almost like champagne, I wanna say, like that
Yeah. Nice. Beautiful. Nice.
but yeah, the bouquet, and I've noticed a few brides asked, have been inquiring with me about that kind of style of bouquet
Yeah.
bridesmaid, she just wants one. Variety of flour, but like really packed full of just,
Yeah. Nice.
which are like a, like a long, really nice
Yeah. Beautiful. Very like wild flower vibe, isn't it? I've had a few of those
that
where it's like,
But
yeah,
big flowers,
flower. Yeah.
it's like got balls
Yeah, I know what you mean. And like the, the, I mean, I'm terrible with flower names here, but you know, the ones with like the quite big petals, but they're quite like, they almost look like, like that. Like, like crepey paper. Crepe paper kind of vibe.
Yeah,
These like big blossy flowers. Yeah.
Lovely. I
Beautiful. And they all come out this, and I, I thought that maybe they were called that they go,
She
um, but like to the, they come out to the side and then they some stick up as well. Beautiful. Aren't they
as well, which is another one, which are really nice. It's probably a
Cosmos?
they, they're the same. They're a bit like a Daisy, but they're not like a
Yeah.
could get that kind of, they're
Nice with a bit of trailing ribbon down. Yeah. Very beautiful. Yeah. Nice.
for anyway, but I just thought, oh, this is nice and it's, it is actually like, like I say, the first time in a long time, it's, I know it doesn't sound majorly different, but it is actually when you've been doing the same thing
Yeah,
it's nice and refreshing to be asked to
yeah,
bit
yeah. People are definitely, I think they're, you know, those like structured. Um, I've got a couple that want this at the moment. It's like I. It's mainly no foliage. It's all flower, but it's still, although it looks loose, it's actually quite structured. So you've got like a flower here, a flower there, you know, like in the um, so they're having like the flower meadows down the aisle and they want them like all flower, but all very like at different angles, you know?
So it looks like they're almost like growing up the chair almost kind of vibe.
it. And people want that kind of look and not, don't necessarily want the, like a load of green
Yeah. Yeah.
interested in the flower. So
Mm. Nice.
this year. But yeah, so, so that was cool. Um,
Hmm.
a nice one. I'm looking forward to that. And then, um, I'm actually off to London today, um,
Nice.
a freelance event. So
Woo.
up with a florist, a London wedding florist,
Yeah.
of, um. I guess it's like a networking thing.
Is it looky? Get you networking with the florist. There's a florist networking event. Hey,
That's right. And I've
or
cordially invited.
Nice, I love this. Get you
it. Yeah,
nice. Where's it at?
um, it's in, on Kings Road in Chelsea at Lavender
Oh, nice. Oh yeah. Nice, nice, nice.
Excited. Looking forward to that.
Yeah, so it's actually at a florist.
Yeah.
Nice.
it is
That's exciting. Going back to the big city, you know,
guys leaving you in the dust. joking.
although you hadn't really got the weather for it today, unfortunately.
Absolute
Yeah. You're gonna have to wrap up for it. Ah, wow.
it really. I mean,
Nice. Yeah.
and then I've just been doing quotes and things and sorting out stuff for the year, but, um, yeah, getting some
Fab.
So that's all, all stuff that goes on in the background. But, um, but yeah's my week.
Stuff. Nice.
your week been?
Yeah. Good. Yeah, just, um, a lot, you know, busy as always. Lots of mes, lots of catchups, lots of tasting still happening. Um, so yeah, just really like, you know, lots of quotes. That's time of the year is lots of quote, you know,
Yes,
like our,
everyone's
I always say to get all your suppliers kind of confirmed, sign sealed about three months before. So obviously we are now coming up to that kind of. March, April will then be three, four months before summer. So just getting those final little suppliers, you know, the little random ones. Like one of our couples wants a tarot card reader.
my gosh,
I know. Very random. Um, so little things like that, you know, just get, just getting it all like signed off. So, um, yeah, busy, busy. I also, um. I had a lovely weekend off. I'm trying to like really like hone in on my weekends at the moment, you know, and just enjoy them. 'cause you just don't, over the summer do you, like, have some time at home and get, get stuff, get stuff actually done, you know. and we also had a, this weekend, a skiing lesson. Our first. Ever ski in es. I know, right?
Went to old Milton Keynes for the old snow zone. Yeah, that's it. I think that's the closest one really. I don't really know where else there is one. I think there's one up north somewhere. I think there's only a couple in the uk, but yeah, so we are gonna go, we go in, um, hopefully to Austria this Christmas coming and I was like. I feel like we've been, we've been a couple of times before, but we've never skied.
I've nev never skied and we're always like watching and stuff and it, I'll be honest, it's not really my thing. I'm a bit of a scaredy camp.
Yeah.
Um, but I thought this is something that mine would love, like right up his street. So I got him a lesson for Valentine's Day and I booked us both on. Um, but yeah, it was interesting to say the least. I actually got into the swing of it a little bit, and then on my last run I literally, like, I just couldn't, my skis would be going one way. They wouldn't be going straight, and then I'd just be veering off. And I didn't really know how to turn back into it.
'cause you were just practicing going straight essentially. And then I ended up basically just crashing into it to like the fence.
I'd be worried I'd do the splits, you know?
Ah, no you don't, you're the opposite. You're always trying to pull your feet in. Getting yourself to go out is like quite hard. Yeah. Because you probably 'cause you Yeah. Get keeping your feet in like she kept saying to her like, move your feet out. Move your feet out. Move your feet out. So.
that's so, oh
But, but we passed level one. I dunno how, 'cause I basically took, took out, I, I basically was going towards the edge, like where you go up on the thing that takes you up and I like, it's like almost like a conveyor belt. And I was going towards that and then I could just see these poles in the ground thinking it was like quite a secure fence. And I was like, it's right. I'll just grab onto one of them. Grabbed on, they were just like flimsy plastic. And I literally fell through 'em all.
Oh my God.
Oh, embarra.
Oh, that's Jake.
I wasn't doing, but it's hard work, I'm telling you because when you are first, obviously get on the snow, they want you to get used to it so you're not on the conveyor belt thing. So you've literally got a like stand to the side and sidestep up the hill in your skis, which are heavy.
gonna
These ski boots Yeah. In your legs. Yeah. But we're, we are going back in a couple of weeks for level two and three, so yes.
me when you're going so I can come and watch Honey
Yeah, come and wave. Yeah. Honestly. But it's such a cool place there, isn't it? There's so much to do.
fun to doing a snowboarding lesson.
Yeah, you should.
the idea of a snowboard, not a
Yeah.
about skis. They just like, it's a split thing. But now you've said that
Yeah. No, I
changed it.
I think isn't for me. 'cause it's like you're two feet being on one thing. Like you can't put one foot. Do you know what I mean?
yourself.
you're easier to control two feet.
It's true.
Yeah. But yeah, I suppose once you get into the rhythm of it, it's probably not as, yeah. Yeah. But I mean, they, they were pretty, there was no health and safety chat or anything, so I'm, I'm
Off you
that, yeah. And you know what Britain's like, it's normally very health and safety conscious. I thought we'd be spent in half an hour talking about, you know, you can hurt yourself. Um, but yeah.
interesting.
that was my week, just enjoying,
Enjoying
the, yeah. Quiet weekends and the, yeah.
might
Well, I've got, I know, right? Yeah. I mean, I've got, I'm not gonna lie, I've got a few weekends booked up now with meetings and just like stuff going on in personal life, you know,
Yeah.
trips and whatnot. So yeah, it's all starting to get busier now. But yeah.
It's, it's coming, isn't it? It's, it's, it's becoming closer the wedding
This is a thing, isn't it? And I think a lot of couples are feeling like this, and I'm seeing this a lot at the minute online as it's just getting closer and closer. And this is when you, I remember being in like this time last year thinking like, well, 'cause our wedding is in May. Like, oh my God.
Yeah,
it's coming round. Yeah. And it just suddenly feels like it creeps up on you.
definitely. I feel like once like New Year's out the way, and if you've got a wedding, it's
Yeah.
of summer like you are.
Even like you say, like once you hit February, 'cause January always feels quite long and you feel like, oh, I've got loads of time in January to get stuff done. And then as soon as it hits and like you get to that couple of months before and you're doing like he and stag parties and weekends doing dress fittings and hair appointments. And I remember it really ramping up
can't
in March for me.
we went to your Hindu.
know
That's
what the hell that is nuts, isn't it?
quick.
feels like I've been married forever.
Yeah, it's weird,
You know, like what? The fact that when people ask me and I'm like, I haven't actually been married a year yet. Feels weird to say that, but
like you've always been married.
Yeah, it does. You know, we'll have to do a little, uh, one year review.
Yeah, I just wanna call in my one year review on this, uh, marriage. What was I
The
the other day, someone that does that
Oh, right.
it? It was a celebrity then they do, they do annual, oh, I'll
Shut. They don't.
who owns BrewDog and that Georges Tolo,
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
an annual review of their relationship.
No, what
Yeah.
review. I saw something the other day similar to that. It was like a no judgment session, like once a week. There's no judgment and you can be able to say like whatever you wanna say,
like
but you wouldn't get any judgment with, like you, with Richard and the, and the dishwasher.
yeah,
could sit and say to him. Look mate
yeah. No, no judgment. But there is judgment.
there. No judgment here, but you really annoyed me.
No judgment, but I hate it when you do this.
Oh, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. So no judgment here, but we're gonna talk a little bit about the night before the wedding, aren't we? Because. I always say, and I've probably said this on here before, but uh, uh, my, my, my little quote, my Hannah Rose quote, is, the wedding begins from the moment you wake up, not from the wedding, the, the minute the wedding starts. Right.
But I also think that to be able to get that well from the minute you wake up, you need to be thinking about the night before. Right. Let's face it.
for the day.
Yeah. And. Everyone basically says it's like, it's like a said, it is like a done thing that you don't sleep the night before your wedding,
Everyone's like, oh, you won't sleep. You won't sleep. Or you'll be up
which I think is crap. I got a good eight hours in the night before my wedding. Did you?
night's sleep I've ever had.
Yeah. Like brilliant.
I don't know. I can't remember. No, I don't think I did have a good night's sleep, but that was just because I was like, really? And I did, once I went to sleep, I was fine,
Yeah.
to
But getting to sleep.
like quite excited and nervous.
Yeah.
then my slept in my, um, my cousin, we had like a double bed at the top. It was like a split room. And one my younger cousins slept in the bed with me
Mm-hmm.
and, um, she woke up really early at like five o'clock and just put the light on and
What?
I.
Okay, well there we go. So we are about to get into this. So I actually have always been quite rigid on my tips and rules for the night before the wedding. So I actually abided by my own rules, so hence why I got my eight hours in. But actually. Just to kick it off then one of the things that I would always say is exactly like you've just point number one, right there is, I was so fussy about, I was like, I'm not sharing a bed because I knew something like that would happen.
Like you can't sleep properly when there's somebody else in your bed like. Or even, I mean, let, let's, I I didn't actually say you didn't stay at home, did you? I didn't stay at home. So taking it back to where you actually stay? Yeah. I mean, if you're staying at home, I do think you sleep best in your own bed. So if you know you're gonna sleep shit, stay at home in your own bed. Because I actually stayed out, but I was like, no, I'm not sharing my bed.
'cause I knew, you know, you know when you just get woke up by someone else.
Yeah, that's true. And I think it's a good point. And Elise, we can say from experience, like I, well I can, I had someone else in my bed. I mean, it was just my cousin, but like,
Yeah. Yeah. Awkward.
um, but yeah, you just, it's like unusual, isn't it? And you don't feel like cut as comfortable as you perhaps normally would, so you just a bit outta sorts I
Yeah. Yeah. If they get up and go to the toilet or something, you're probably more likely to wake up, aren't you? Whereas I think if you've not got any like noise or distractions. You're more likely to sleep somewhere that you don't normally sleep, you know?
yeah,
Yeah. So I would definitely say that's like top tip number one is be really like ruthless on who, who you've got around you. Um,
yeah, which, which is um, a good point because also you wanna be surrounding yourself with those that you are closest to probably the day bef the night before. If you are
yeah.
stay with you, I think otherwise. If it's not people that are close and you just invited people to just make up
Yeah.
a party or something the night before, you're just, I don't see the point in that. 'cause it's just,
No. And
the next day.
it literally, and I actually always say like, yeah, have, have people stay the night before, but don't have too many people. Like we actually had quite a big lodge. We had like a three bedroom lodge. So I had, um. All my bridesmaid, no four bedrooms, sorry. So I had my own room and then the six bridesmaids all shared. Um, but it was like my sister and her daughter, my other sister and her daughter, you know, my two best friends. So it wasn't too bad for them either.
But yeah, I would always say be really ruthless about who you're staying with the night before. Like a hundred percent
Yeah, that's a good point.
don't wanna Abby.
but
Yeah. Oh yes. The hotels works quite well. But make sure you've got your own hotel room, I think your own space.
so you don't feel
Yeah.
but actually you're
Exactly.
on my own.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also think, right, one of the things that you should be doing, um, we've got here to try and get sleep at a reasonable time, like 100%. And you briefly mentioned then about not having a, I actually made sure, I was very like, look, I'm not doing anything the night before my wedding. I'm chilling. We are not, you know, and quite a few people were saying to me like, well, you're not gonna have drinks or anything like that. Like, no. No, I'm not.
I wanna be chilling in my pajamas at nine o'clock
Just chilling
watching a film. Yeah. And we, that's what we did and it was so nice and it was so, so chilled. Um, yeah, I think it's important and I think it's important to try and try and stick some routines.
I think so if you've got like a bed, like a bed, it sounds like a child, like a bedtime
Yeah.
But I think if you can bring it in, like have a bath,
Yeah. Yep.
you say, watch a film that you really love,
Definitely.
know, something like that. Um, but my ma main do not do is like, I was gonna say, like normally sometimes the relax people might use a face mask,
Yep.
use a face mask or something like that the night before your wedding that you've not. You don't regularly use, you know, like say if someone's like, I think one of my bridesmaid got me like, it was really like, nice, they did me like a, a countdown calendar and in there was like
Cute.
um, like a face mask,
Yeah.
to like use the night before the wedding. But if I
You were like, sorry. No,
can't use this. 'cause you don't know how your
no. Yes, no. You're so right.
an allergic
Imagine that.
Um.
itchy skin.
it can bring you out in spots, can't it? When you
Yeah,
mask, so,
yeah, yeah. I think I had my last facial like three days before or something, but I do get regular facials, so
So if it's part of your normal routine, so
yeah.
routine and your skincare routine is that you do, I don't know, you cleanse, you tone and you moisturize or whatever,
Yeah.
thing, but don't go add in a mask that you don't normally, sorry,
No,
keeps moving on. I'm following it. Yeah, don't start adding something into that that you don't normally, that you wouldn't normally do,
no. You're so right.
is bring yourself out in spots and have loads of spots or like an
No.
reaction on your wedding day.
Or just have it, can you remember my eyebrow Hindu situation?
Oh, I can't remember. You have to remind me.
I've definitely spoke about this, honestly, like, I feel like we need to put the photo up on the Instagram or something, but this was obviously not the wedding, it was the hendu. But I, I'd decided I'd done that panic the day before of, oh, I want, or like two days before, I wanna have my brows done before. The wedding, uh, before the Hindu, but I went for like a full, like, shape and tin and, and they just looked her like, I've never seen anything like it.
I literally sat up looking in the mirror. Yeah, because I'd paid for like a fricking. Tin and shape. And then I said to her, I literally looked in the mirror and was like, whoa. And she was like, oh, if you, if they're a bit dark for you, you can, it, you can take some of, if you use a bit of exfoliator when you get home, it'll tone it down a bit. Well, when I got home, I scrubbed those brows.
it using like swarga, that stuff. Remember that stuff you get, you rubbing your hands, it's like powder and it
yeah, yeah. Yeah.
You
Yeah, that stuff, but head, head and shoulders. Head and shoulders, always the way to go in it if you wanna get anything out. Honestly, I scrubbed everything on that, on them brows to get it off.
That's hilarious. I can't believe I forgot about that. It's so funny.
God. It honestly, it was, it was it at the time I was, was like, what
That's the sort of
has she done? But, but really, she probably should have said like, no, you're, you cannot have a fault. Like, I'll give you a shape. Yeah. If it's anyone's fault, really? She should have said like, I'll give you a bit of a shape and maybe a bit of a tin. I ain't doing, what are they called? Do you know what I mean? Like, they've got a name, you know, like the brows, something like along those lines. But it was some new one and they were like really close together
is
and.
brow, I think. Oh
And she should have just said like, you're very pale. You barely have heavy hair. They're like, no, you're not having these brows. And so, yeah, I'm with you on that. So I know it was my Hindu, but like imagine if you panicked. Panicked. Had your brows done before the wedding did
my God. Also. Yeah, I mean, it's easy to darken your brow, but to lighten them would be a
well, yeah, exactly.
artist. Surely
So listeners, I've just quickly sent Hailey a picture of my brows.
my God. Oh, oh my God. I'm so sorry to laugh, but
How bad, and that was after like the FI felt like I'd already scrubbed them once as well.
in your eyes.
And one, one of those pictures, I'm trying to like pull it off, like, yeah, I try, I, I can make these look nice. The second one's like, no.
You're proposing?
Ah.
Oh, no.
They're so bad. Like how did she, lemme walk out those sos
So sorry. So sorry I'm
the Frank.
bad
I mean, the fact that he was at my head doing, you can't remember him being bad though. He must have scrubbed that off pretty well. They look like, you know, when you get fancy dress and you stick.
You know, remember the mustache? The mustache I stuck on for the, for the ndi? That sounds really weird. It was a murder mystery and I really lent into my character.
she's a man.
a couple. I'm stuck on your eyebrows.
Literally.
Oh my
God, how funny. So.
out?
Sorry, it just made me think and remember that maybe I haven't told this story before. Uh, but yeah, so guys, please don't panic because that's what I did, and find a girl down the road to have your brows done
Oh,
um,
that's funny.
moving on.
on. Speaking of speaking of
boo boo.
routines, if
Mm,
wash your hair the night before,
yeah. Get it. Um.
we've said this before, bone
Yeah. Bone dry. Do you know what I actually did? So I, I nearly booked my hairdresser to come and, uh, the lady that was doing my hair, who is my hairdresser, to come and wash my hair in the morning. 'cause I was like, I don't wanna wash my own hair. I, on the wedding day, but actually I was having my hair done. Like, so I got married on the Sunday, I was having my hair done on the Friday. And or the Saturday, something like that. And I was like, it'll last, won't it.
And she was like, yeah, actually it'll be, it'll actually be better because they tell you not to have completely fresh hair when you're like having it styled.
that's
So yeah, so I think I had mine done like the Friday afternoon or something, and I was like, and you know when you have your hair freshly dyed and it always lasts a bit longer anyway. And I do wash my hair at once a week, so I'm all good. So, yeah. And then it, it was fine. So I didn't have to wash mine, but all my bridesmaids washed theirs and stuff the night before. Just to like, we, we kind of had a bit of admin time as we called it, like Yeah.
We were like right people, if you wanna come and see us, it's before seven o'clock, and then we've got admin time from seven
Nice jokes,
washes and
point. You need to
Yeah.
Takes a
Exactly.
washing and drying your hair, so
It really does. It is long. It's very long. Also getting things done like steam in your dress, getting all your bits organized. I remember talking about this.
totally.
with my wedding, but I am very much a DHD brain. Like my stuff, I dunno where half my stuff is. And if I, I actually think it was better for me to not be at home because I would've been like, well, yeah, all my stuff's in the house, but I chuck stuff everywhere and in drawers and it would've just been chaotic. Um, so I. Made sure I had everything. I had loads of lists on the go.
And then when I got there to my room, I laid out everything on a Chester drawers that I knew I was gonna need in order of when I would need it. So like my jewelry was like last in the line. For example, deodorant was first. You know, my pants were there. Can you remember when I then lost my pants? Uh, so yeah, I think just get all your bits organized, stuff hung up, your shoes in, you know where your shoes are. You've got bits by the door ready to go that you've taken with you.
You know, like your evening. Yeah. Your trainers that you wanna take for the evening is there by the door.
my veil hung up because it was so easy to crease. 'cause it
Yeah.
long veil.
Yeah.
the night
Get it all hung out. Yeah.
drop out some
We checked in at like three o'clock, so I had like loads of time to get all that stuff done. That was like the first thing I did was like, get all that stuff ready, which was good. I'm so glad that I did that and like had that time. I think people forget as well, like in the morning, obviously it's an early start and that you've got a lot of overwhelm, but the same time the, as the bride, you don't actually get ready till a lot later,
I was
so you do have time.
week about this. I was saying that. In the morning because
Mm-hmm.
when I'd come with the flowers and everything. I was like sort of saying to her and she was saying, oh, um, about, I think, 'cause her mum was there and saying that they might get breakfast and,
Yeah.
won't want any breakfast in the morning and stuff. And I was, she was like, we'll be getting ready, we'll be getting ready. I was like, well you actually won't be, you'll be the
Yeah.
a lot of hanging around. I remember just floating
Hannah about. Yeah. Which does go quick. Yeah. Which I'm not gonna lie, does go quickly though. Like I was milling about, I was like, you know, watching, I was chatting, you know. Um, yeah. So it does go quick, but yes, you do have time. But equally, if you are gonna set your stuff to do in the morning, I was like, almost, I mean, this is just how my brain works, but I would need like a list. Written on an a four bit of paper stuck on the wall.
Like this is what you're, this is what you need to get done. 'cause I know on the day your head is just all over, all over the place. Like, you know, there's just a lot going on. Like, whew.
everybody else and what they were doing and making sure they were on time and like
Oh, I didn't,
to the schedule. I was so bad, isn't it? How sad of me. But it's
I had, I had two moms there though, and one of my friends is very maternal, so they were all just very much making sure that I feel like they took on that role more than I did.
I
You need people like that.
I go. So
Yeah. They were all sorted.
mom, and my nan. Were they getting their hair and makeup done, but they were more worried about themselves?
Oh. They're like, what do I need to,
no, my mom was just, my mom had extensions put in,
yeah.
like her quite a long time to get her hair done. So she was
Uh,
remember really seeing her in the morning, to be honest
fair place. Fair play. But yeah, I would say yeah, just make sure you've got all your stuff organized. So, because yes, you will have time on the day, but you are also gonna be, there's gonna be a lot going on. There's gonna be people about, you might feel a little bit, I get a little bit like that when there's people around me. I'm a bit like, whoa.
So I checked into our room actually first and I went off and like did my, and sorted all my stuff out just 'cause I know as soon as I start chatting to people, my head, I just, yeah. Yeah.
totally.
I'm also gonna,
prep,
sorry. Go on.
can, um, if you're doing your own vows or you've
Yeah.
to do them, perhaps you wanna memorize them. But I mean, I don't see what's wrong with reading them off a bit of, you know, like a nice bit of
Yeah. But you kind of wanna half know it so you're not stumbling over your
in
Yeah.
make any changes
Yeah.
that. But.
Last minute bits. I also always say if you're the kind of person that's quite an anxious person and you are a little bit worried about the setup, maybe you've not been able to set up the day before, is have like a final meeting with your coordinator on the day. Like just a little check in. Like even if it's just a phone call.
Um, I always say for like my on the day management couples just to send me like a video of like, you know, where all their bits and bobs are and just anything that they're worried about. And you know, it just kind of puts, it's almost, I did this with mine, we were setting up. It was very stressful and. We basically just had a final debrief 'cause the weather was just so up and down. We had a final debrief with our coordinator and then, and then I checked out and I actually did.
I was like, I'm done now. Bye-bye.
Yeah.
Yeah. And then I went, so yeah, I do think, um, yeah, but we did actually do a little practice, um, when we all got there in the evening. We come down, didn't we, to the venue and did, I just showed my bridesmaids where they were gonna be walking and stuff because it was, because it was outside, it wasn't like an obvious, like I almost wanted them to know 'cause it was quite a long walk, wasn't it, for them and stuff. So we came and did that.
So anything, if you're worried about anything like that. Go down to your venue and just like show your bridesmaids where they're gonna be getting ready or whatever. Or if you're staying at the venue, you could go and do that. Um, yeah, sometimes it's easy, isn't it? Like yours was simple, wasn't it? Because you know, we took them in and it was literally like Yeah, straight ahead. But if it's a little bit com complicated, then
sort of discussed the day before, like who was gonna go first
yeah.
we kind of went through that and then like one of my bridesmaids was doing a reading, so they
Yeah.
and yeah, things like that.
Discussing all those little bits. Yeah, definitely. Um, one of the things I forgot to do was, um, so I'd asked my cousin like months before to do a reading on the day, and then I'd kind of just like, not reme and then I'd re mentioned it to her again. But it was like a good couple of months before, and I'd said to her, do whatever you wanna do, write what you wanna write, if you wanna find a poem online, or if you wanna just talk about us or whatever you wanna write, like.
Do say whatever you wanna say. Completely forgot to mention to her the day before when I saw her, and then on the day she'd obviously forgot to mention it to me and thought that I'd written her something. Although I'd never told her I'd written her anything. But then we got this, like this, she'd just forgot I'd forgot. And then so when she came to do our reading, she was just like. And then she just rambled.
To be fair, she was very emotional, so she didn't say a lot Anyway, um, so she just said some bits and then, yeah, bless her.
well at the
It wa it was fine. I don't think anyone noticed, did they? But yeah, I was like, probably,
maybe
yeah, probably mentioned it like, yeah, the day before. I should have written that on my list really. But, or I should have done it like a week before, so I didn't have to worry about it. But yeah. I'm also gonna sound like a right ball here, and this is the conversation that I have with my couples. All the time. Right? So will, they'll be chatting away to mom or whatever in our final meeting that we do like six weeks before.
And they're like, oh, you know, and then they'll be like, oh, the night before. So, 'cause one of my questions is always, where are you staying? Who are you staying with? And we always have that conversation with, you know, is there gonna be loads of people about, be, be wary of it, et cetera, et cetera. 'cause you don't want those that I've had the amount of times that we've gone into rooms, haven't we?
Oh
this as well, and there's just people everywhere and it's chaos
have had it.
too much
often and you go in and I'm like, um, oh,
it makes me feel on edge. Yeah. Makes me feel on edge. Can you remember that one we did at like Hampton Court Way? Oh my God. And it was just so busy. There was just stuff ev you did? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was just stuff. Every, to be fair, that wasn't her fault. 'cause the hotel, um, actually a mess. I think there was a maintenance issue and they put her in a smaller room and they put her in a tiny room. But yeah.
some tiny rooms, like really, really
just pay for the bigger room guys. Honestly.
it.
It pays for it. Um,
the best one I ever went to actually, in terms of sides, there's a couple. One at Rushton Hall
yeah. Nice head to house.
Heads
Oh, beautiful. Stunning.
whittle actually that
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is big. Yeah. Yeah. Mine was cool 'cause it was like a lodge, wasn't it? With a living area. That was massive. Yeah.
Mine was, I had a big room, but
Yeah. You did.
come into my room, but I had like a mezzanine with like a bit upstairs as well, so,
But I thought yours was good, how you split hair and makeup into different rooms. You used other people's rooms. Yeah, I always think that that's a good idea is if you've got various, um, if you've got like a few different, your brides may stay in in different rooms, spread everyone out. Get the hair and makeup artists to spread themselves out. Once they're set up, they're set up. They won't be able to move, but spread 'em out.
Um, but yeah, so the biggest thing that I always say is, so when we start this conversation with our couples, they'll then be like, oh, what are we gonna eat the, the night before? And it always ends up being like, oh, well, we'll order a Domino's, or we'll get a Chinese. And I had the same conversation, you know, my bridesmaid's like, I'll just order in. And I was like. Absolutely not. And when I say that my, a couple of my brides always laugh.
They always laugh 'cause I'm like, no, you're not doing that. And they're like, Hannah said, we're not allowed to order in because honestly, right. What is the worst thing you can do? And I'm gonna sound like a ripe born now, but the worst thing you can do the night before your wedding is eat a fat Chinese and drink a bottle of Prosecco. They're the two worst things that you can do.
bad the next day,
Yeah. Bloated
and greasy,
Yeah. We, uh, we, we cooked up some faers. The night before us. Loads of veggies and stuff in it. It was lovely. Did It was great. And we didn't drink. I honestly don't understand. Look, and I'm not a big drinker, so, but this is, this is me saying it to Haley, part animal of the century. Sh I. Don't understand people that drink the night before the wedding, you're gonna be drinking on the day. Hold out for one night.
'cause the worst thing that you can do is put alcohol into your system because you will get the worst night's sleep. And people always say, oh no, I always sleep so much better when I've had a drink. No, you don't. You just think you do, but you don't.
the quality of sleep isn't good, is it?
Yeah, it's bad.
true,
Or you're just gonna wake up with a hangover.
save it for the day of the wedding. 'cause in the
Save it.
your
Yeah.
and everything. You know, get all excited with
Yeah.
bridesmaids, groomsmen, whatever you're doing, you
Yeah.
it for them. But I
Save it guys one night.
worse is there. You eat it. I mean, everyone loves a takeaway, don't get me wrong. I do. I love a
Well, me too.
person, but
I'm there.
you feel gross.
Yeah, it does.
dunno, some people diet, don't they? Or they cut back before their wedding
Yeah.
if they just go on the night before, i's it I'm gonna just eat loads of crap?
Yeah. And your body's like
body's gonna
a hundred percent
have a massive spot on your face the next day as
literally the greasiness or, and also what if like, you have no control over that. What about if it's dodgy?
Oh my God. Yeah.
You know,
or something. Oh my God. You've just opened another level of anxiety.
like literally. Yeah, but it's true, isn't it?
that's a good point.
I dunno. Right.
chicken.
Yeah, just don't eat that. I'm joking. Do eat, do eat. Always eat. And I always eat breakfast as well, but just keep it light guys like
to have a
don't we go nuts.
eat something.
Yeah.
fruit or
But I do think you are right. I think you made a very good point there is that so many people diet right up until their wedding and then it's like the way, let's let loose.
loose.
Just don't do it to yourself. Just hold out, hold out until the next day. And the booze thing is that look, and look, we are very aware that in certain, you know, other cultures and, you know, other countries do things differently. And welcome parties are very normal the night before. And rehearsal dinners are very normal, normal the night before. But, and I work with couples, uh, in these situations, but I always just advise to not put any pressure on yourself.
Don't drink at these events the night before. Keep it an early event. Most welcome parties that we do are between like six and nine. If you wanna bow out earlier, bow out earlier, and go back to your room. Have a different room offsite. So if you're having like a welcome party in a hotel, stay somewhere different, you know, think these things through because yeah. You, you're just, it's not worth it, is it? To feel great. If everyone wants to party on down the night before, great.
Leave them to it. But I always try and keep, get, get people to keep it a little bit, A little bit more informal. Yeah. A little bit more chill the day before. Yes. You wanna see everyone. You wanna say hello, you wanna, you know, but you don't wanna be going into hard,
Yeah,
so, yeah. Yeah. I think that kind of covers it, don't it? Our tips. Have a nice chilled one.
for the
Have a little slumber party. Have a nice chilled one.
Just
get the gal cooking some faers or I don't know what, what else? A stir fry or a, you know, little risotto or a,
just
know,
kind of rice
jacket potato is what I wanted.
night.
Banging
Yeah, jack of
in.
cheese was so
Oh, so good little bit salad on the side. But everyone was like, oh, didn't want a jacket potato. So we, we landed on for years, which
That's jokes.
love for years. So I'm happy with that.
be fair, I'm hungry now.
Should we move on to the listener's questions and message Jills?
Yes. Um, so first one up, we've got, what order would you recommend walking down the aisle in American way of bridesmaids, then the bride, or the traditional British way of bride Then bridesmaids. I can't decide which way to go for,
Oh, well, we know our views on that, don't we?
I mean, I, I just feel like when they say the British way, the bride first, I'm like, I've never seen a
Stupid.
goes
Have you not? Not in a church. Some churches demand that you have to have it the British way. Yeah,
a wedding like that.
yeah. But do you stay, and you probably don't really know about at the actual ceremony time, are you to maybe see it?
yeah. No, not always to be fair.
sometimes I, um, if it's a church wedding, I might hang around. I can kind of be nosy, but
can have a
that'll actually, but um, no, to be fair, not always, but normally I will have the people when I meet with them, they tend to just tell me So I will pick up on what, how they're doing, like things and we'll chat about it and I'll ask them a few questions about their wedding. So I would've thought like if someone was doing that, that would be, to me, it'd be unusual. So they would mention it, but then
unusual and it is normally at churches that are
I.
and they want you to do it that way. Um,
okay.
I mean, I'm just all about the American way. I actually saw a really good, uh, video from a, a DJ recently Random, it was dj, but he, uh, he was saying on a video, and I think it was on Instagram that, um. You when, when, with a back when like you're at a concert. The headliner, the, the support acts go first and the headliner goes on last. And I was like, that's such a good analogy. Support
That is.
headliner last because you want
Yeah,
always say
like that.
down, you wanna get them seated before you make your big entrance. you want,
Yeah, totally.
else. And, and it does really the, and the, and I'll be really honest, the photos where we've had to do it that way because for religious purposes, you, you, you've just got bridesmaids in the background. You don't really see, you don't really get a nice picture of your bridesmaids. Um,
I can imagine it's not. Not the best. Whereas yeah, you come out, you come out last and it's like, boom,
not
it's me. The main event.
It's, it's.
it's just the done way
and it has been for about a hundred years. A vicar once told me that this didn't come in to play. He, he hadn't seen brides wanting to do it this way until friends came on the TV with Monica
really.
and I was like, I
No,
that. I felt like it's been around a
don't think so, mate.
I mean, I dunno 'cause I was a kid when I was, when friends was about.
I dunno. 'cause I've never watched friends.
they were like, oh, it was only introduced because of the Americans. It should be done. But actually, if you, oh, the royal wedding, they always walk the bridesmaids always walk up behind the bride. it is called a procession. So you literally
Oh, okay.
So it's bride, whoever's given her away, plus her bridesmaids behind her, and you're moving forward a, in a block.
Do you know what? I really wanna ask my mom and dad what they did?
way. Mm.
interested to know.
any royal wedding, that's how it's done at on Windsor. Although that was the whole thing, weren't it? 'cause Megan, Megan did it the American way. Woo. Yeah. Naughty, naughty. But yeah, hopefully it answers that. I mean, I would go the American way as you've called it, here all the way. A hundred percent.
yeah.
you. You
Defo.
Um, if you've got
I agree.
they'll time it so it looks really good. So,
Yeah, that's it. That's it.
Okay, so next up, um, I've actually been getting a lot of questions myself on my own Instagram. Um, and I've seen quite a few bits about this online recently, and so I thought I'd just bring it up in the questions and messages section. Um, but it's all about is how often you should be hearing from your planner or your coordinator. Um, I also
Oh, okay.
a bit of a discussion recently online, um, where the couple were really panicking because their venue terms were that their planner doesn't get involved until like four weeks. Prior to the wedding. So up until then you're kind of on your
Ooh,
Now,
right.
a little bit of a rant online about this and I went on LinkedIn and I had a little rant about it and then I never go on LinkedIn and I went back to it like three days later and Jesus, I had so many comments on it, like people completely
Oh my gosh.
me. But re honestly, it's really irritates me when call their co venue coordinators, whatever you wanna call them, event managers, whatever. But when they call them planners, 'cause they're not
Yeah, because they're not,
a completely
no.
was a venue coordinator for 10 years, like it's completely different.
Yeah,
said
totally.
couple and I was like, look, as a venue coordinator, a hundred percent, yeah. They're not gonna be getting involved in your planning and your
No, because they're not, they're nothing to do with the planning process. They're on the, it's like on the day management, isn't it? On the on the day coordination or coordinating that day, so surely,
do that. They're there to manage the venue logistics, so they're there to help
right. I.
Maybe the bit of timings, maybe some recommendations of ven of suppliers. You know, what size is the stage, or are we allowed to bring in stuff at 10:00 AM or where's the drop off point?
Yeah.
the venue logistics and how it
So it's not, it's not as in depth is it? So there's no reason they would need to get in touch, surely.
with you unless you get in touch with 'em and ask a question. They're there to help and advise. And actually we still do manage a wedding venue as my business in a, in a coordinator capacity. And I don't get in touch with them unless they get in touch with me, until
Yeah,
you know, a
makes sense.
and I
And then you have,
details. Yeah. And
that's it. That's it. You have your final meeting, don't you? And then.
and that's probably what this venue means about getting involved in four months before they probably do a little catchup meet in four months before, because they need to know who's in, you know, what suppliers are coming, what time they're arriving, all those kind of bits and bobs.
Yeah,
need to, they probably want your room and lists. They want your food choices if they're doing the
that's it.
know, all those kind of bits and bobs. But yeah, I mean, if you're talking about a private planner, I mean, I speak to my couples all the time.
Yeah. You just can't get rid of you.
of me. And even if I've got, and again, in terms of your planner, if you've actually hired a private wedding planner. I think it very much depends on my couples. I've got some couples I go couple of weeks without speaking to, because their wedding's not till next year or their wedding's quite simple. It's pretty much done. And then I've got couples I speak to all the time because it's very in depth
Yeah.
there's a lot going on. Or we've got a shorter planning period. So we plan with couples, you know, four months before the day we do full planning. So.
So do you have like a say if you've got a couple that isn't like, they're not massively into like catching up all the time, would you then set in place a meeting every month or like would you put one in to make sure that you are catching up so you've got all the details you need without it becoming like too far along and then there's loads that you need to catch up on sort of thing.
that because I know when I get to a point where there's a couple of bits I need to run through with them, I'll then say to 'em, hi guys. Can we book it a catch up?
Okay. You like reach out? Yeah. Yeah.
and then obviously you always have the tasting in which you catch up at. You do a couple of
Yeah.
so you never go, I never go longer than probably
Too long.
weeks without speaking to them.
Yeah.
but. Yeah. I mean, and that's, that's probably quite rare. It's normally at
And I suppose if you start planning your wedding sort of a year to 18 months in, in advance, I would say that there's probably gonna be something happening at least every three months you're gonna be doing something like, like you say, you're tasting or
supplier
you. Suppliers. Yeah. There'll be something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
for example, if we're looking at photographers, if they then shortlist to a photographer, I then, as you've seen like with with you, I join the call. So it might be
Yeah,
and, and to be honest, it's probably most weeks I'll ping 'em at least a WhatsApp message and be like, oh, hi guys. Can you have a look at this over the weekend? So for example, yesterday
good.
the quotes for linen for one of my couples. I uploaded them into the system for them. I pinged them a message to be like, hi guys, just let you know your linen is is is been uploaded to the system. Have a little look and then what will happen is if I don't hear back from them now. For like a week, I'll ping them another message and be like, hi, I just wonder how you getting on me linen. Do you need any help, for example, you know,
Yeah.
wouldn't leave it. It's only, I'd only leave it a couple of weeks if there's nothing, like, there's nothing I really need from them. Um, but yeah, in terms of venue, I would say it's on you to get in contact with em until they, until we need anything from you, we don't really need to contact you. So, and
Yeah, that's a good point.
I'll book in a catch up when I need. When I need stuff from them, I just have
Yeah.
I need from them. So I, that's probably why we speak a lot more.
Speak frequently. Yeah, it's a bit different.
and you're not hearing from them and or if you are messaging them a question you are not hearing back within at least 48 hours, then yeah, you need to be flagging that because that's not,
Yeah. That's not okay.
But yeah, so I kind of hope that
No, I agree.
insight
Yeah,
quite often.
interesting.
big difference. Between a planner and a venue coordinator. Very, very different roles. Um, so it, it really varies. It depend, uh, you know, it depends how much communication you're gonna have. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Hope that
Yeah.
I don't think you can expect
Interesting.
get messaging. You be like, hi, have you booked your
Like constantly.
it
Yeah. That's not their job. And can you imagine how many different weddings and couples they have? Like it's, it's madness. Sometimes they won't just have one coordinator, they'll have like
Yeah,
or four.
are
So.
like 150, 200 weddings a year.
Yeah. That's mad, isn't it? That's mad.
couples every week. That just
Goodness me.
why we only work with six full plans a year. That's,
Yeah.
I physically couldn't take on
No, exactly.
too much.
goes to show how full on the planning process can be, hence why we do a podcast about it to help people because it can be so. Overwhelming, I think. And I think, you know, if you are able to have a planner or something like that, then that's great, but if you can't, then at least there's content like our podcast out there that you can, uh, leave us a review for,
leave us a review, send in your questions.
send in your questions and your little reviews. Five stars only.
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