Hey, hey,
hello.
how are we?
I'm good, thanks. How are you?
Yeah, I'm good. We're, We're, we're, on tenterhooks. We're trying to do this with a sleeping baby.
I'm on the edge of my seat
She literally is.
to jump up.
If Hayley's tense today, that's why.
Yeah. This is it. Normally my husband's looking after her
Yeah,
record, but today we've gone rogue.
we've gone rogue. Should we get started and then power through?
Yeah.
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Do you know what? I can't believe how many episodes we've done now as looking at
know,
other day. But this is episode 18.
yeah.
it's like, how quick has that gone?
I know, it's not, and come on Apple Podcasts. I don't ever look at any others but Apple Podcasts, we need to be at the top because there's not many other wedding planning podcasts that do every single week. Like they'll do like seasons or they do like one offs. Like we're, we're, we're dedicated to this.
Yeah, we are. We're like, powering through.
yeah,
here. There's no seasons. Just
What are we talking about? I mean, we'll see how we feel.
tea every week.
see how we feel about that in the summer. But No,
god.
is to The thing is, I always feel like we set a good time to do it because like, we generally do a Monday. There's never really weddings on Mondays. It's normally a day like you're recovering from weddings. So it's all good. We're, we're all good. We've set it so we can continue it for the, in the long haul, you know?
us. Yeah,
Yeah. So how are you anyway?
Yeah, I'm good. Thank you.
Good. Oh yeah,
actually. Obviously first Mother's Day was, yes,
sorry, I forgot about that. Happy first Mother's Day.
thank you.
Oh
It was nice to be on the other end of it because
yeah, of
doing flowers and delivering to other people so
course.
it's actually been really nice to receive. I didn't receive flowers
Did you know? No.
mean, people never buy me flowers because
Which, yeah, would you want to receive flowers?
I would
again, because I suppose you like flowers, don't you? That's why you do your job.
Mother in law bought me some nice irises,
Ah, cute.
So that was very nice of her.
I was with my mum the other day, and we were walking around this National Trust site, and my mum was, like, pointing at these flowers, like, Oh, that's a blah blah, and that's a blah blah. I'm like, talking to the wrong gal, mum, I ain't got a clue.
Oh
Hayley told me that. Hayley told me that.
yes.
I recognize them. Yeah
Oh yeah. So it was nice anyway, just to celebrate
Yeah.
and it was an international women's day was on
Oh, yes, it was
or the Friday, so that was
Yeah, I put up a little post. I'll put a picture of us on there. You know, the women.
nice to get out of women. Well, there's lots of
Getting involved.
and,
there is.
of women that are powering through. getting it done.
Yeah, we work with a lot of women, don't we? Because it's mainly, let's face it, the bride does the main contact when we're doing heterosexual weddings. So, yeah. We mainly speak with women.
exactly. What's the word? Breaking I want to say breaking boundaries.
Breaking boundaries. I
the
like the wedding. Although has it? Because I actually, I think back to when I first started, I suppose wedding coordination, that's what I did in venues, that was very much female led. But photographers were normally male, and there's a lot of female, I'd say, I'd say our work were probably more female than male photographers now.
I've never Female DJ at a wedding, you know?
good point. Oh, I have.
I haven't ever, to
But very minimal, and I've got a wedding this year in July it's actually an Asian wedding and they have a female DJ and the company that I've booked, actually, these guys are amazing, right? So they're an Indian wed DJ company and like, they do like, you know, the doll players and so a bit more like Indian kind of entertainment as well, dancers and stuff, but every single person that they provide is female, so they're only females that work at that company. I thought that was really cool.
that is really cool.
yeah, all female. Because I think the Asian market is very male dominated. So I don't know if that's why. I need to have a chat with them about, you know, what made that decision. But I'm wondering if that's why, because it's quite male dominated. Yeah, but chefs and stuff, you see quite a few more women now. But you used to be all male. Yeah, there's quite a few roles now that you're starting to see. Florists have obviously always really been female, but there are a lot of males.
of male fema male females.
Male or females?
a lot of male florists
Yeah,
though. I mean, more, I mean, I'm just speaking generally, but I think more in London,
yes.
I
Yeah, that's probably right. Yeah.
sort of this, up
Yeah, because actually in Northamptonshire, I don't know any male florists. Oh, no, I do know one. I know one.
I think I know who you mean, but yeah, it
Yeah,
tends to be, I mean I'm not going
mostly female. No.
You know,
We love it.
girl power.
anything else other than being baby baby
baby brain
baby brained?
I have actually, I've been doing some more, I had some more inquiries for weddings this year again, in August.
Nice. Whoa,
many people are come in. Well, actually I had another one in May, you know, I was like, ah, because I think I've said the other
no.
someone had asked me that about one in May, and it's all in this same week. And I was like, and again, I got another one, I had to turn it down. But
Yeah, because flowers isn't really something you think of last minute. Like, there's a lot of things, I think, like for me, when I do on the day coordination, we are sometimes a last minute, like, you know, some people book us in advance, and some people are like, I've suddenly thought, like, and I'm panicking about this, like, how, you know, but flowers is kind of like a standard thing, isn't it? It's like, venue, food, photographer, flowers.
yeah, so if you're thinking about, like, how your venue's gonna look, how you would decorate, generally flowers comes under that sort of
Yeah.
so yeah, it is a
it's like,
really, but,
a budget thing, and people are like, You know, I'll, I'll have it if I can afford, I don't know.
people aren't So bothered about flowers as in they're not like they don't see
the tables.
So
Yeah.
happens is like they might have a conversation with like their family or that generally like the mother in law or their mom Or something and they were like, oh you sorted your flowers and they were like no yet or not really thought about it and it'll be that conversation that kind of gets the ball rolling I tend to find with that
Yeah.
And it can be down on their priorities list
yeah, true. Or I feel like it could be that they aren't having like flowers on their centrepieces. So they only really need bridal stuff. So,
Yeah, and
that you can leave.
a,
Yeah.
touch with me in a couple of days I'll probably be able to sort something out. Don't do
Yeah.
That's not very
No, don't, don't do that. Or it could be that they're thinking of going dried and then they actually see the prices and see, they think, oh, going like dried is just as cheap, but it's really not.
it's not. Oh my god. And can I just say people that think having, and you know what? You can't blame people because I think it's, again, we were talking about like these blogs that post incorrect
Yep.
the other week. it's the same thing. So they, along the line it got sort of like The news got spread that if you have mainly foliage, it means your flowers are
Yes.
Now, I can tell you there are some stems of foliage. Generally, either the same or more money than a stem of a flower.
Yeah.
absolutely is not cheaper to have more foliage
No.
actually, you, yeah, you
It's the same price.
to fill a hole.
Yeah, and also, it's still gotta be grown, isn't it? Like,
Because someone will be like, oh, well I want more foliage and flower, so obviously it's going to be less. And I'm like, no,
No.
wrong, it's
Yeah.
so,
What's the cheapest foliage? Eucalyptus.
no, eucalyptus is one of the more expensive
Is it?
Yeah, yeah, definitely,
surprised about that.
Cheapest foliages, well, you can get, there's a foliage called salau, which is like, it sounds really weird. It's one of the first foliages I learned how to like the Latin name. It's
very nice.
But, it's gultheria shalon or shalom
Oh,
and I
fair.
Yeah, that's the
That sounds weird. Shalom.
Shalon. But it's It's SALs it's common name. Yeah. Yeah, because if you don't know of florists out there, will that flowers that you obviously, like I wrote rose is not a good example, but something like that is like It actually has a long Latin name, which is
I've seen that.
call it.
Kate. When you buy a plant, it's got it on it as well, isn't it?
Latin names. So when you do, so, like obviously I went to college, I'd done all my qualifications. You have to learn
What
the Latin names.
don't.
a li from lists. Yeah. Yeah. And
Why, why do they do that?
examined on it. examined, that's not even a word. I, as
Tested!
I was like,
The baby brain is in full swing.
I got examined on it.
We should put a disclaimer in. Disclaimer, Hayley has baby brain.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, well, shalom, for anyone that wants to know, that long winded answer is whatever the hell it is.
Ruscus isn't bad. Ruscus is a firm favourite. If you want something Basically,
Ruscus. I need to Google all these.
soft Ruscus, hard Ruscus.
Ah,
many things.
yeah,
if I'm sending a
Google and Ruscus.
that. I'm just going to put
Oh yeah. I like Ruscus. I like Ruscus a lot actually.
you get soft ruscus. That's the one that's like a vine. It's like a
Yes. Yeah.
ruscus.
A lot of people have that down, like the centers of the tables, don't they? When they're having, yes.
it's good for garlanding.
Yeah.
sort of
Garlanding. There you go. People
but yeah,
little tip foil,
little tip there. Well, go out and forage your foliage if you think it's going to be cheaper and then
Oh, no.
do it
Oh, long.
joking,
And you think something, oh, this will be nice and it smells like piss.
yeah,
I did that before. I made some wreaths once when I lived on the canal and I was like, oh, it was during COVID. And I was like, oh, I'm going to make a wreath. And like,
Oh,
probably died in like a week.
oh no,
Yeah.
very good.
Yeah. Bad times. It definitely went shalom, though.
Anyway, so that was my long winded answer, but how's your week
Yeah, it's been good. Yeah busy, busy, still in the abbey. And I actually had a weekend off, which was lovely. I think we forget, don't we, like, when we're working, how Lovely it is to have a weekend off. Because no one replies on a Saturday. Like, suppliers and stuff, like, no one replies. So you can completely clear your inbox. Obviously, and then you still, I still get messages from my couples. because that's when they're out of work, which is fair enough.
So I'll go back to them as well, but they always know that I don't work Sunday, so that's good. So yeah, it was, I just love it, like being able to finish at like three, four o'clock on a Saturday, and then just like having a shower, ordering our takeaway, watch Saturday night TV. I feel like, I don't know if it's just me, because I don't do it very often, but yeah, it's literally like my idea of heaven. Yeah.
to stay in just stay in and have a night
I love it.
get a take away watch TV like
It's great.
beat it.
No.
me wrong I love going out and up, but I mean I've not been out
No, I'm not going out.
like those Yeah, those days are kind of gone a little bit at the moment for me, but,
Yeah, I feel like it's just because I work so many Saturdays. Maybe that feels like I'm out already, I don't know. But I just like to be at home.
it's just
Getting stuff done.
and just
Yeah.
completely zone out and not worry about
But lots of a lot of our fall plans actually in the first half of the year this year, so there's a lot of going through all their wedding plans, starting to work on the logistics, you know, all those little questions that pop up and asking all the suppliers those questions, sending out plans, all those kind of bits and bobs, so yeah, I've been focusing on that.
some information for you for an upcoming
Yes, lovely, glad you received it. Yeah,
it, you know,
good, good.
make sure the suppliers read
Yeah.
just in case you asked
comes with it. Please make sure that you do read this. So yeah I actually, I feel like I've got real far with the honeymoon. Because, again, it's like one of those things that you don't really like factor time in for, is it? Like, oh, it's so long winded. Like,
yeah,
it depends on what kind of honeymoon you have. But we're doing very much like, we want to go on loads of trips and stuff, so. Yeah.
a lot
Yeah.
in.
Exactly. So I've booked all the accommodation now and then we've kind of like set like what days we're going to do what. But suppose even if you go in like, I don't know, to the Maldives, you're going to want to book in like all your different trips and stuff. So it's like planning it. And I always feel like, I know you can like rock up to an all inclusive holiday and book your excursions at the hotel. But I feel like, yeah. Like,
I was like,
I feel like.
out
But I feel like if you do that, you don't always do everything that you wanted to do. And sometimes you get back and people are like, Oh, did you do this? And you're like, Oh no, didn't do that. Didn't, didn't know about that. Whereas if you research it first, you get to actually, and also sometimes you get there, you do a couple of days of chilling and you're like, Oh, let's start looking at trips. And then actually you don't have enough time to do what you want to do.
So yeah, I always like to pre plan, like to pre book them. I like to look at the price as well. I think that when you go to the hotel, they charge you an absolute fortune. You can get it online a lot cheaper.
I
like going to direct.
Sometimes when you go abroad and like, the all inclusive and they're just like, oh, you know, it's like or whatever, you're just like
You know what? Yeah, exactly.
little like bummed
Yeah.
wow, this is
And I like,
is
like booking direct with people as well, because anybody, especially like these kind of abroad situations where, I don't know, they're taking you off, I don't know, jet skiing, that person who's taking you jet skiing will get paid like such a fraction of the cost, and that really infuriates me.
I'm just all about going direct, like I'm the same with hotels, I'm the same with like, Yeah, you know, even when we're on Airbnb, if I find somewhere cool, I try and find it online first, because I just don't like that people have to pay, like, we know what it's like having to pay percentages to people, you know, we're like, no.
that's why I am going back to
Yeah,
system called Interflora, you've probably heard of it So basically I could say if I had a customer come to me and they wanted to send flowers to Wales Obviously, I don't deliver there. So you you go and you part of Interflora you you send the order through To a florist in Wales via this computer system.
fine, yeah.
in a, in the shop, we were part of an flora and they take like, you wouldn't believe the amount of money and the
Yeah, it's bad, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah,
not in a flo, a florist, but I say, don't go for a flora. Ring that florist direct, literally Google A in the area. You are gonna get
100%, exactly.
so much money's being taken
Yeah.
like with accommodation, like you're saying, like
Yeah.
for things. It's, it
Yeah, well I was on I think it was either TripAdvisor or is it, is it like Viator or something?
I've not heard of that.
It's quite like a, a big one online, like you can go and book your trips, right?
Yeah. Oh
one where we're doing like what is it, oh, we go into like, so a lot of places in Costa Rica, you have to basically pay entry for everything, even if it's like a waterfall outside. Like, it's pretty mental, but yeah, so you take a trip to the waterfall and then it's like, oh, you then go to the, these natural springs and we take you there and and there was lunch included. Well, then I actually looked into it. I bought the tickets direct.
like with the local authority to enter the waterfall, which was 20 pounds each. The natural springs were a 10 minute driveway. We've hired a car anyway, so we already have a car, so we don't need transport there. And then the natural spring springs are free. They're just natural springs, like in an air, a beautiful area that you can go and visit. So that's 20 quid. They wanted to charge 99 pounds for the whole day. I'm like.
my
you know what I mean? I'm like, I'm going to some it's cost me 20 quid. Like, fair if you haven't got a car, you could probably get a taxi even, or like, your hotel will probably do like, you know, take you around or something, you know?
Yeah,
yeah, yeah, shuttle. I don't know, I was like
insane.
Also, I feel like you wouldn't go to Costa Rica without hiring a car anyway, because it's just one of those places that you need a need a car.
to get around.
and you know when they just package it up, and yeah, like, you know when they package things up, it really bugs me, like, and I was like, hmm, this sounds really good, and then to start with, I was like, this sounds really cool, and then when I started looking at it and breaking it down, I was like, hang on,
hang on.
actually, I do this a lot cheaper myself, so, I know it's more time consuming, but it is what it is, you know?
Well, like you say, if you've got, if you have got that time beforehand or you factor in that time to
Yeah,
you should do. I think you'll totally, you know, it's a good, good thing to say. I think a lot of people will just go to the hotel and
yeah.
that they've got their best interest and they'll give you a good deal, but actually they haven't at
Or go to tour, like these honeymoon people, they're like, we'll book your whole honeymoon for you, and you're like, if they booked us everything that we're doing for our honeymoon, I guarantee it would have cost us like thousands more. Like, I've had couples come to me that are like, we literally just wanna, like one of my couples said to me once, we just wanna do like 10 nights in like South Italy you know, and, and do, you know, stay in a lovely hotel and stuff.
And they've been quite like between 10 and 15 grand for 10 days in Italy, and I'm like That's not right. You
but
can definitely get a really nice like villa like for a couple of grand and then your flights to italy are not expensive
put
Yeah, it's a lot. It's mental
and stuff. Mind you, I mean, I don't, I don't really know, but I do feel, I do feel that there's a lot of, they just bulking it up,
Yeah, exactly. And you know the good honeymoon planners that I know charge like a rate A bit like how I do to plan. So, oh, this is how much it costs you to hire me to do anything for you, which is great because I tell you what is blimmin time consuming, so they're worth every penny. And they'll get you the best deals and they know the best places. Like, I've spent hours researching and blogs and stuff because I don't know, you know, what I'd have done without TikTok. I do not know.
Like, because honestly, everything's from there.
and she's the same. They,
Yeah.
looks on TikTok a lot for
Yeah.
went round and booked things like separately, like
Yeah.
and
Yeah. That's what we've done. Yeah.
beforehand, like, organising it and they
It's time consuming.
time. Yeah,
It's time consuming. So if you do haven't got that time, then yeah, a hundred cent book someone, but yes, when they like, yeah, package it all up. I'm not, not a fan, but yeah. So that's what I've been doing. So I feel a bit better about that. And I did a open, even though I was talking on the last podcast about the open evening at Bodleian, which was really good. It was nice to, yeah, it was nice to meet some couples. It wasn't redonkulously busy because it's a Saturday evening.
They really struggled to put them in there because obviously it's open to public. So it wasn't necessarily like hugely busy, but the couples I met were like really lovely couples. It was really nice to chat to them. They were very interested in the venue. So they're then interested in what I do, whether it's planning or whether it's just on the day. Cause you need a coordinator there. I did meet also some lovely suppliers, really, really, really nice suppliers.
One being a really lovely celebrant. She was set up opposite me and she was, she was just mental. She dressed in this like bright pink dress. I was just like, you know, when you just like vibe with people, it was really, really nice to meet her.
that.
So she's called Catherine of Love Celebrants. So she's at Love Celebrants on TikTok. And I just wanted to touch on a conversation that we had, which I thought was actually really interesting. It was something. I've really like, thought, people don't really ask me, I suppose. Because I don't really get involved, I suppose, in like with the guests essentially.
So, and we were talking about, she was saying how like, you know, her TikTok had blown up because she'd put on this video about talking about how to work out how much to give gift couples. So like how much, so you know when a couple are like, oh, we want contributions towards our honeymoon or whatever.
Yeah, how do you work out and she's basically saying that for her she would work out Okay, this is the venue that they're getting married at so I would think it's you know My meals probably gonna cost like a hundred quid a head plus my partner so she almost essentially works out what she thinks the Couple are paying for her to attend the wedding and then gifts them that
Oh,
just to point out, she is Irish, and I have heard before, from other people who are Irish, Did we talk about this before?
Don't they end up so Basically, they get money back from
Yeah, didn't someone write in and say this to us?
Yeah. I
that they essentially end up being profit. Like, they end up being in pro Irish weddings end up being in profit. So you say you spend 50 grand on your wedding, you get that back, essentially.
oh my god.
In GIFTS. I know, so whether it's because she was Irish, I don't know, and actually, it's only just tweaked to me now, I'm talking about it.
it?
because actually I didn't say to her at the time, is that because you're Irish, I only just thought of it now. But yeah that's what she was saying, is essentially what she feels like, you know, whether she'd have a look at the venue, she'd be like, oh, okay, it's a really nice venue, you know, she was like saying, you know, if I was here at the Bodleian, I'd think, you know, 100 to 150 a head, so I'd probably give them, you know, me and my other half, two to three hundred pounds,
Wow. See
and I was like,
extremely generous That is
yeah, but it is a really good point, it is really hard to know how much money to give people
like how do you sort of work that out? I
Yeah.
it's a good question really, like if you're sat there like, you just sort of like give them 40 quid,
Yeah, and this is the other thing actually, I was having a conversation with one of my family actually at the weekend and I was saying, because we have set up the Prezola, thanks to Hayley, thanks for that little tip, but we've done everything from buy us a drink on the beach for a tenner.
Up to buy us an overnight stay for 250 quid and actually I think that's really nice because when people are buying us these gifts I'm, I can't even remember like for example, like my cousin has bought us one of our tours I actually can't remember how much that cost
no, yeah,
saying, I'm just, in my head, like, Oh, my cousin booked us to go and do this trip. In my head, I'm not thinking, Oh, it only cost her this much, or, Whoa, she spent loads of money. Do you know what I mean? Like, so I think it's actually a really nice way, Yeah, of doing it, because people go on and they think, Do you know what? This is what I can afford right now.
And they buy you something, and actually to the couple, It's not like, you know like when you put in 20 quid in a car, Do you feel a bit stingy? Do you know what I mean?
but if that's that's what I mean like with that that's what I liked about it Of even they can't they feel like well if I was doing it, I was spending 20 pound That was my budget as I say fine And if I put like our drinks on the beach,
Yeah.
it feels like I've bought them in
Yeah, exactly.
Or like towards like an excursion or something and it doesn't feel impersonal, whereas like, you know, even 20 pounds is a lot of money to somebody,
Yeah,
potentially. They, they might feel a bit embarrassed maybe putting it in a card like
exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause they're like, oh we'll start when I get home. Yeah.
isn't it?
Whereas actually 20 quid could potentially go towards a trip that, you know, like one of the trips we're doing is only 20 pound each. So, yeah, great.
so
Yeah.
one of
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. So that's great. And that's one of us doing like a two hour activity. So, you know, and it's the same as if you're going, I don't know, to the Maldives. It could be one of you having lunch. I don't, I don't really know how much the Maldives costs. I've never been, but
a lot of money.
probably a lot. I reckon you can get a salad for 20 quid. You get yourself a little sarny. But yeah, so I do think it's But yeah, I thought that was a really interesting conversation And I was like, it is actually a good way of looking at it, I suppose. Is when you are going to, you know, And for the couple, How are you, like, what are you expecting?
Because, also, the other thing is, The other thing I like about this, doing this whole PreZoda thing, Well, PreZoda should be paying this commission for this, by the way.
Yeah, hello.
Hello! And, The other thing is, is that you actually know what you're getting, a lot of our people are buying our gifts now, so we know, whereas if you're just collecting cash on the day, like, I don't know, is there an expectation to people, to couples think, oh I think we're roughly going to get about, I don't know, a thousand pounds, or is that just extra benefit money? Like, oh, that's a benefit. Well, that's an added bonus. We've got an extra grand, I don't know, from the day.
you kind of thought about like, how much you'll get in, have you thought about
No,
you'll get, this is like, factoring it into like, money you sort of need or something.
no, because I'm booking the excursions as people are booking them for us.
Yeah.
so obviously, so essentially the way that it works is they're not booking it. They're just giving you the money and it goes into a pot. So I'm then, we've drawn that money, booking the trip. So they're booked and then I will just probably see a couple of weeks before and if there's stuff that we still want to do that we haven't.
Had bought for us, I'd just pay for it and then any extra money that we get after then I'll still keep track of what people have bought us but that will just go into our, into our pot, I suppose. I'm kind of waiting to see at the end of how much is left in our wedding account, like, how crazy I go, adding, you know, once you get the final invoices and stuff, do you know what I mean? Like, okay, so we've got X amount left.
But yeah, I suppose we're in probably a bit of a, you know, I suppose it depends what position you're in, isn't it? As if you need to pre save your honeymoon funds. Like, how did you do yours? Did you save pre honeymoon funds or did you just, because you did the Prezola thing as well, didn't you?
yeah. So we because obviously we weren't, we weren't all inclusive, so we, we'd paid obviously like for the, the hotel and
Yeah, you're like drinks on the beach. You get them free anyway.
Yeah. Suckers. No, I'm joking.
That's straight in my pocket.
So we used it we used it for like the, like doing the excursions and things like the trips out. So, cause obviously when it came to it, we'd like the money had gone in. And so we
Yeah,
you say, on the trips and things like that. So that was really nice. So we got to like experience like the holiday, like and
yeah.
to do. And I think the money that was left over, then we said, we've just saved it. And like, we use someone like our first anniversary
Oh, nice.
together, things like that.
Yeah, so you know you're using it.
Yeah,
Yeah.
because on there as well You can actually buy gifts.
Yeah, you can, yeah. I mean,
I
with a crazy markup.
frame
Did they?
sort of random. It was lovely. It was a silver photo frame, you can do that, but it was for us, we asked for money towards our
Yeah, fair play.
and like I say, we had a really nice day where we cause it was like a spa hotel,
Nice.
spa obviously wasn't included. So we had a spa day like with it as well. And
Oh, nice. Yeah.
thing that you
Little massage. That's on my list actually. Couples massage. Oh, lovely.
I'll get it for you.
Oh,
That's
thanks. That's about 100 quid though, sorry.
Oh, no, it's just 20 quid and a
You're like, no, oh no, I'll get you the coconuts on the beach.
Yeah. Oh
Cool. But yeah, so no, that was quite an interesting discussion. I thought it's something that you don't really think about, but I think if I was going, I think it's a, I think it's an interesting thought process of how you, obviously if you can't afford to do that, then fine, but I do think it's an interesting thought process of that, that's a good way of thinking at how much you should give people, or maybe at least 50%. So say you think, oh, my meal would have probably cost about 100 quid.
You know, even if you give them 50 percent of that back, that's quite nice. All
wrong here, but So With the Irish thing, so my, so my dad told me, so my nan was Irish, or her maiden name's Irish, so she's got some Irish in her,
yeah.
And I remember my dad telling me that she would always say you should give, like if you go to a party or anything like that, you should basically give what you sort of receive in a party. It's the
Yeah.
if you know
Was this girl saying yeah?
and, and I think that maybe that comes from there. It'd be
Maybe.
that,
I just checked it as well, it's plus 20%. She's like, whatever you think that Yeah. I know, right? It's a lot. My, jeez, money bags.
money bags.
Should we go into the listeners questions and messages?
Let's do it.
So, first up, we've got, My family is beginning to plan daytime events for the day before the wedding and I'm wondering how you spent the day and what you've seen others do. We have a welcome party in the evening, so I'm assuming we'll just be preparing for that, prepping for that, but my family seems convinced that that will have a bunch of free time. What happens the day before? Any night prior advice, ideas for day, night prior?
So, yeah, I suppose I was thinking a little bit about, obviously work in the industry, so, you know, kind of know this, but I was thinking the other day with mine, I was like, how long do I actually need to be, like, how much do I have to set up? And how much do I actually need, like, long do I need to be there? But I suppose it, I think it depends where you're staying as well, doesn't it? You stayed somewhere else the day before, didn't you?
did, yeah. So we stayed in a hotel in Buckingham the the night
Yeah.
And there was quite a few of us, like bridesmaids, my nan and grandad, mum and
Yeah.
his girlfriend.
Yeah, so I think it's, you need to factor that time in, isn't it? Like, packing your stuff up at home, making sure you've got everything, travelling there, and then saying hello to all those people that are also staying there, because they're all going to want to see you.
we had dinner the night
Oh,
so
nice. Yeah.
and that was really nice actually, it was nice to sort of get together and everyone's like in a good
Yeah. And was Richard there as well? You did it together? Yeah.
No, so we didn't stay together the night before, so we
Yeah.
and we didn't see each other until, like, the
Nice.
stayed at, he actually stayed at home and
Okay.
stayed at ours with him,
Had a little lads night
well, I say that, he actually ended up having loads of stuff, see this is a good point to make, he actually had, done loads
of stuff to do.
but he had a lot of stuff to do the day
Yeah. This is the thing.
some platters and stuff for suppliers. I always provided sandwiches and
Yeah.
bits and pieces like that. He went and picked them up from M& S and like things like that. And
Yeah.
getting bits ready. And there's actually quite a few things. To
Yeah. I feel like you have to overestimate like how much there is to do. Like for me, I was like, well, actually all I need to do is drop the linen off. I'll iron the linen and then. Everything else has pretty much been done for me, but actually I feel like I'm probably going to want to hang about. I'll probably end up chatting to you for an hour. I'll probably end up chatting to the caterers. I'm probably going to want to put other little bits and bobs out.
Martin's probably going to be saying to me, where is this going? Like, why is this happening? Like, what is that? And then also I've said, one thing to bear in mind, if you're doing it, having a church, you will need to do a church rehearsal the night before.
Oh yeah,
Yeah, and I, I'm doing, although we're just having a blessing, we're going to get all our bridesmaids and stuff together and just do like a little mini rehearsal just so they see because they've not seen the venue. So. I wouldn't do that just to put everyone's mind at rest. And then also, I think you've got to factor in the fact that, I mean, I don't know how long your dinner went on the night before, but like, my plan is to just, I've got accommodation for me and my bridesmaids.
I just want to chill out. And actually, I think you need to factor in that you're going to want to get an early night. But also, before you like, start, you're going to probably want to do things like wash your hair, set up all your like, jewelry. You need to get, check, go through your bits. Yeah. And like,
and dried and,
Yeah,
if they're staying with you, making sure their,
yeah,
and
yeah, and like getting all your little bits and bobs out and checking you've got everything, like, I'm definitely going to factor in time for the fact that I'm probably going to forget something and need to either rush out and get it, or, you know, like, go back home and get some, do you know what I mean, like, because it's just so easily done, like, obviously, yeah, pack your car up, make lists and stuff but there's always going to be something that crops up that, you know.
Yeah.
You're going to be like, so I personally wouldn't have that assumption in my head because I feel a bit the same like what your family's saying of oh, we're going to have loads of time. But actually I think that you should, shouldn't think like that because
shouldn't.
things are going to crop up and you're going to end up getting stressed.
anything and you've got free time or just spend it to
Yeah, exactly.
day is so full on.
Yeah,
so tired by the end of the day and like, if we'd have stayed up all night, you know. Whatever, partying or having drinks and things like that. You'd
yeah,
it because you can't, like,
exactly.
at like 6 in the morning to start hair and makeup sometimes and things like that.
Yeah,
that.
it's a lot isn't it? Yeah, and I also think that like, if you decide to pack the day out, like with activity, so like, you know, you are looking to do like a welcome pie in the evening and stuff, I, you know, again, you're gonna wanna then be prepping for that, getting yourself ready, and, and just remember that everyone's gonna wanna talk to you. So I would just say.
Don't pack it out because if you pack it out and then things happen like I don't know say a delivery is supposed to come A couple of days before and it doesn't and then you've got a waiting for it or
to
yeah I just wouldn't pack your day out I would just like Haley said if you end up a free time then just think of it as bonus time to just do What you want to do and chill sit in the bar and have a drink, or just check through your stuff again, like,
former life.
yeah, reflection. Like, I feel like I'm gonna want to get all my bits out and just check through it all, like, a couple of times, or even if you just want to sit with your bridesmaids and just go through the day and just feel like you've, you know what you're doing, you know?
just had like a, we had a, we had dinner and then we went up to our rooms and everyone was like washing their hair and
Yeah,
out, ready for the next day. And then, and then we like had some chocolate and just sat and
yeah,
chat, like
lovely.
was
Have a little coffee. I
Yeah.
on it. I wouldn't put any timescales. I've seen couples do this before. I had a couple last year. They actually flew in from America, so it's very normal for them to do stuff the night before.
because
they had
rehearsal dinner? That's an American thing,
Yeah, that is an American thing, yeah. So they basically, it's essentially like what you did. They just have a dinner the night before.
but like
But some of them will do speeches and stuff as well. Yeah, the night before. But they had like, yeah, so they had their rehearsal dinner. But they also had their church. So they had their church rehearsal in the afternoon. Then they had that. And I just felt like they were just rushing from things. And she was like, God, I've got to get back still. I've got to get ready for this rehearsal dinner. Like, I still haven't like, even sat and spoke to my Nan.
So honestly, if you're going to do something in the evening, lovely. But I would keep the rest of the day free.
yeah, definitely. Yeah, take it easy. Don't don't do too much and
No.
Delegate jobs like with your bride if you got your bridesmaids grooms and anything like that with you Like if they can help in any way Definitely delegate
Yeah.
the last thing you're gonna want to do the day before your wedding is be stressing about
No. Oh, and their dresses. Getting all the dresses out. Like, if you've got like a few bridesmaids, steam them. Yeah.
them,
That's a long job.
satin. Oh,
God. Yeah.
Oh God.
Right, next question. Do you want to do this one?
Yeah. So just want some advice on what I should be thinking about in the final three months to my wedding.
Yeah, this is a good one, isn't it?
Yeah, so I like this, this question because actually, there's quite a few things that you, the last three months, I suppose you're kind of finalizing things really, getting those last bits together and just checking, making sure you've got everything
Yeah,
I mean, I don't
I feel like there's a lot in the last couple. I feel like there's a lot of appointments. So I think it's
all comes together, doesn't
Yeah, I feel like
details for things.
Yeah, I feel like it's managing Your diary at this point so making sure that like your trials are booked in if you haven't done them yet And if you have done them great you know That you've got things like, if you want your nails do in, if you want a facials for the last couple of months, you know, if you have Botox, that you've got that booked in, if you've got your, not even just your hair trials, but your hair appointments, so like, your cut and your, and your color, stuff like that.
yeah,
and they haven't, especially if it's not something you do on a regular, like, I regularly have my nails done, so it's fine, but if you don't regularly have your,
don't
I don't know, your brows doing, yeah, or spray tan, like, you need to be thinking about what you want doing and getting it booked in.
just a side note as well, never start a new, like, say if you get regular facials and things like that,
Hmm.
start a new skincare routine close to your wedding. Because if you flare up or something like that,
Yeah, good point.
I've decided I'm going to have a face mask, do the face mask the night before the wedding. know what I mean?
Yeah, it's so true, or like, I'm gonna start using retinol a week before to get rid of my wrinkles.
I remember someone saying that to me. it sounds like a silly
No, it's so true.
don't want to have a reaction to something that close to your wedding. So
Yeah,
unless you already do a skincare routine, don't go starting a new one that close
that's such a good point. And I think just thinking about, like, that last question is really linked in, like, thinking about things like that, what you're gonna do the day before, like, how long are things gonna take, when are
Yeah,
coming in, you know, start putting a full plan together. And I mentioned it before, I have a full wedding plan. If anyone wants it, ping, ping us an email. I'll email it over to you. You know, little things like that, you know, your perfume, jewelry. I always think that comes down in the last couple of months.
and things
and shoes, and also I suddenly thought the other day with mine, so I'm getting my dress fitted the first week of April, but my shoes for my first wedding, I haven't got them yet. I'm like, I need them for the fitting. You need that stuff. And actually you might want to take your jewelry and stuff to your fitting so you can see like the whole look. So it's all like these little bits are like all interlinked. I mean, we're still going through finding suits at the moment. I say we, my other half.
Yeah, he still hasn't got his suit. Or is in two months time,
know.
but it's easy for men in it. I'm not even stressing about it. Cause I'm like, you can rock up to next the day before I get a suit. Yeah, yeah,
them as well, can't you? Like, it's so easy.
exactly.
dresses, they're never the right They just come in weird sizes, don't they? They have to be altered. You've
Yeah,
a
exactly. Yeah. So, making sure your honeymoon's all planned, booked in, if you're gonna do it straight after. And also, one of the things I've got on my to do list is honeymoon clothes. So I need to go through what I've got, or what I want
Yeah,
buy.
all
Yeah. Yeah.
you've got all
Because I don't want to do that.
like suitcases, all prepared
Yeah.
getting them all
Things like that. I would also, at this point, I always think your, all of your suppliers are going to want to, will start bombarding you like four weeks before for like final details, like final numbers. Dietary. So for like you, you want to know how many tables there's going to be. So you know how many centerpieces you're doing. Because you want to, everyone wants to start ordering. So like Hayley would start ordering flowers. The caterer is going to start ordering food.
Like, you know, all those different things. So I feel like you need to put together a document, Just put some spreadsheets together, put all that information on and start doing that, I'd say about three months out. So you give yourself a good six weeks to go through it.
Make sure you've got all the information because also, I suppose what also happens in the last three months is all the RSVPs, you normally, you know, I advise to send out invitations for six weeks before, get them back latest at like, Two and, two and a half to three months before, because you then got a couple of weeks to chase everybody who doesn't RSVP, classic, you know.
I was gonna say it's always those people.
Always. The stragglers.
The stragglers.
You know, and then collating information to collate, isn't it? You know, all your diet trees and stuff. How many people? Kids? How many kids meals?
kids meals, supplier meals as well. Like
Yep,
about that and also everyone's gonna be wanting their final payments.
yep, yep. Getting that old bank card out. Yep.
So it's gonna be lots
It's a lot of lists, isn't it? Yeah, it's a lot of lists, a lot of, you know, requesting information, a lot of, yeah, payments and stuff Yeah, final check in. A lot of suppliers want to do final meetings, don't they? Yeah,
They do, yeah, so I always do mine like four to six weeks before
yeah.
we do a final, final meeting and we go through like logistics and things like that and just making sure anything, nothing's changed and if it has what, and, and you know, just make sure everyone's on, singing from the same hymn sheet
Yeah, exactly. Whereas this is where I do think it is so beneficial getting a planner involved because
Well they do it all for you.
we do the one meeting with a couple and then we do all those meetings and fill out all those forms. Like the amount of forms I go back to, like it's in the wedding plan, it's in the wedding plans.
in the wedding plan. Refer to the wedding plan.
Whereas a couple would probably follow that. Like, I've got, for mine, I've got like two different photographer's forms. Like, you know, the florist wants to send you a form for information. Like, the caterer wants information. Like, everyone wants the same information. Actually, sometimes you think it'd be good to just get all the suppliers on one call. But it's just not possible. Everyone's busy. Everyone's got stuff going on, haven't they? So, yeah, all those kind of final check ins.
I feel like they're the final three months. There is a lot to like, be thinking about.
ramps up like the last two weeks before like, I just remember, even with all the help and that it did did get quite overwhelming.
Yeah,
perhaps prepare yourself for that and if there's anything you can do in advance to kind of yourself feeling that way. Like you say, making sure you you're making lists of what needs to be
yeah,
a checklist and
yeah,
And like, if you've got all your information in one place, anything you can do to help yourself out in advance
definitely.
really helpful.
That's like, I've started putting lists together of like, what I need to take the night prior. Like, it's still got like, nearly three months away, but
I had
if I do that now, yeah, when I'm like, then not got any time the week before, I can be like, oh, I've already got that list and then I've just got to tick it off and it's done. Another one that I think a lot of people don't think about alongside perfume and aftershave, always one people forget, is your speech. So I think it's, if you're doing a speech, like make sure you get your speech written and make sure you get it printed out.
Cause I, my real pet hate is seeing people read speeches off phones. I
Yeah. It's not a
just don't think it looks good in the picture, do you know what I mean?
out speech.
Yeah, do you know what I mean? A nice bit of card.
Yeah,
sit down, write, start writing it now, three months before, like 100%.
vows on the phone?
No.
their vows out
No, but to be honest, 99 percent of people either have like, a Civil ceremony where they tell you what to say, a church where they tell you what to say, all the celebrant, the way that it's written is so they don't have to, like, necessarily say a lot, yeah. But no,
did not
if,
we
I think, yeah, I think, I think celebrants normally, like, advise to have them print it out, so, yeah, on, like, nice. Anyone that I've seen do their own vowels has had it, like, printed out nicely, so. Yeah, it's a lot of bits, isn't there? It's all those, like, little things. I think you just need to sit down, go through the whole day with your other half.
One thing I would suggest doing, and me and my other half have started doing it, is, like, once a week, just plan out an hour in the evening just to go through everything and just, like, chat. Because it's, sometimes it's so hard to just tie them down, isn't it? And be like,
Oh,
you just tell me what you think about this? You know?
And then you're like, forget what you've speak spoken
Yeah.
So it's good just to have that, that, yeah, that weekly check in
Yeah.
just
if you're, do you know what, if you're feeling stressed about it, which you may be because you're, you've written it about it, like booking an hour power session with like, with a planner, like it, it doesn't cost a huge amount and you can then go through everything and it, sometimes it's just having those, an experienced person, isn't it? To go, Oh yeah. Have you thought about this? Have you thought about that?
little things like
Yeah.
overlook but obviously doing it all the time and
Yeah.
you just get to know what these
Yeah. Exactly.
So yeah, I think that's a good That for people if
Yeah.
get in contact with someone like yourself. Yeah,
Exactly. Or even just do it with your bridesmaids, like I'm sure a lot of your, many of your bridesmaids might have been married before or, you know, just do a little session with them.
Yeah
just go through it. Was there any things that you forgot about or, you know? Yeah, definitely. But yeah, I'd say, yeah, final three months is a, is a busy one. A lot going on. A lot going on. Yeah, I'd say by this point though, you probably are going to have all your suppliers booked. Yeah, I don't think you did, did you?
I didn't, mm,
Because I think I Did you?
The only things I didn't, the only things I did last minute, like booking,
It was your glasses, like two weeks before.
that was it really. Everything else
Didn't we book your videographer? Because I think, like, I came on board only like three months before. Maybe it was longer before. Because I booked your videographer. And your
I was really, I was
tableware.
with
Oh, okay, maybe I was, maybe I worked with you before. Yeah. Yeah, it must have been earlier.
I, I did, I did everything quite in advance. booking. I mean, we had a year
Yeah.
getting engaged, but I got on it straight away because I was excited. So I
Mm hmm.
But I think, yeah, last three months. Yeah. We, we decided last minute that, well, I say we, I decided last minute that
You decided.
glassware and
Yeah, you did. That was literally like two weeks before. We lit that was with we were sat in your lounge going through the full day. Like, literally like we were just talking about a session with a planner. We did that, didn't we?
yeah.
I want to change them glasses. And I said, no worries, Haydar. I'll sort that for you.
no worries. I'll do that for you.
I'll do that. But yeah, I was just thinking, you know, other little bits. Like if you want to get if you want a change of outfit you know,
yeah second. Yeah,
Yeah, second out yeah. Evening shoes. Shoes for the evening. Is always something that people may miss Yeah, just going through what you, you know, in your head, exactly what you want, how you see the day panning out and yeah, get all those final, because I do find suppliers can be a bit of a mare sometimes where they literally message like, can we do a catch up next week? And obviously if you're really busy, like it's going to be difficult.
Yeah. So you start getting them booked in, like in, I'd say from three months, start reaching out to your suppliers and saying, can we book it in now? Even if it's in two months time, like just get the date in the diary.
Yeah, like you said organizing your diary and
Yeah.
they're all booked in
Yeah.
That's really good advice.
I think that's us for today, isn't it?
Yeah, that's it. I don't think Lily's been too bad
No, she hasn't. Good girl.
of background
Aww, she sounds cute though. What's she up to? Is she sleeping, or?
No,
No. No.
I'm just rocking side to
Rocking side to side, yeah. We did have a baby join us, guys. Just we may have cut that bit out. But
Our youngest guest on
Our youngest employee. Yeah, yeah. Our first ever guest and our youngest. Yeah.
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