Hello. Hello.
How
We always start with that. I always say hello. Hello?
people are, oh,
Yeah. Here she goes again. It's a lovely day today, isn't it? We've got the sun shining.
It's blue skies here. Thank God it's been so disgusting. The weather the last like
Yeah.
constantly. It's like
Literally
left in the sky? I mean, it's pretty bad though. We've started this podcast talking about the weather that is such
very British.
thing.
Very British and Hailey is baby brained out. Are you baby brained out? Do you feel baby brained?
what? I, I don't think I've had enough conversation with actual people over the last week to, or couple of weeks to actually warrant having baby brain, but we'll see how this recording goes,
Yeah. Take it away then.
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and let's get you. That was a terrible one.
The end is like
That's Haley's baby brain. Couldn't in,
that's, yeah. Blame it all on me. That's fine. I'll take the blame.
how's your week been? Have you got any wedding stuff to talk about or is it all
do, you know what, actually I do.
She does. She is fully back in. There is no maternity leave for Haley.
leave. I'm like, please. Sanity. I've actually been getting quite a few inquiries. I mean, I sound surprised, but I shouldn't be, you know, I have a business
Obviously you are amazing.
Yeah, no, it's been really nice. I've had a couple inquiries some for next year and then also more for May this year, which is like May
yeah.
much booked for me now. I don't wanna
Nice.
in May, so if you listen to this and you wanna work for.
She needs to not overshadow my wedding. Okay. She's been told.
is, you know, taking place in me.
I know what you mean though. Like I keep getting inquiries still for June, like which when we're on our honeymoon and I'm like, geez,
Yeah.
on?
it's like that, you're like, oh, I really need some inquiries. And then they all come at once and they all wanna be at the same time.
And how many weddings do would you typically take in a week? Because obviously for you it's all the prep, isn't it?
So really, so I have this I have like a week in May where I've got, like, I've got that corporate event, which I said about the Waldorf
Yeah.
And then I have two weddings.
Mm-Hmm.
enough. I wouldn't take any more than that.
No.
depends
Yeah.
of them, to be honest. It really depends on the size, depends on the help I can get like with staff and things. And also like logistically if I can actually be, because obviously can't be in two places at once, but I can
no.
out. You know, it's and it's all in the planning to be honest. So I'm already planning now for, for that week
Mm-Hmm.
there's another week in April, which is very similar where I don't, I don't enjoy really doing like back to back weddings and things
No,
just
same. Yeah. Takes it outta you, doesn't it? I stopped doing them. Well, I say I stopped doing them. So in end of 2022, I said I'm not gonna do any more back-to-back weddings. And then 2023, I think I did two. So not too bad, but I just think it really like It exhausts you, doesn't it? And then I don't feel like you can
Yeah.
second person your whole full of, full, full you,
it. Yeah. You, well, exactly. It's exactly, especially when it is like you're a small business and it's kind of coming down to you. You really wanna give them everything that you've got.
Yeah
and yeah, so I do, I try not to do things like that. Sometimes it's obviously can't help it with demand and like people want you on the, and also like, let's be honest here, we're in the business to make money. So if you're gonna get
make a living.
come up, you don't wanna be like, no, sorry, I don't wanna do too, you know, you're gonna take the work. So
don't think people always understand that actually really wedding season only kicks off after Easter and then it starts
yeah,
in September. So we
small.
like half the year to really like
Yeah,
I think.
it's a small portion of the year really
people
scheme of things.
'cause for me, I only take, like I say, weddings are primarily Friday, Saturday. So I only take one wedding a week on a Saturday or or a Friday because other, like at the end of the day, I can't do Friday, Saturday. It's just ridiculous. 'cause I do like a 16 hour day. So sometimes I think again, it comes down to like pricing. Like sometimes my freelancer rate, like venues will say to me, oh, that's a lot. And I'm like, that's all I'm gonna earn that week.
Yeah,
paid to
that's it. That's, that's it.
You know?
No, no. That's sort of like covering you for the whole week. Yeah, totally. Totally.
Oh, that's good
I mean, it's,
you're getting
yeah.
coming
it's been good.
quite last minute then, isn't it? May,
Wow. Yeah, that's what I thought. But they're not, they're not huge weddings. They're like manageable ones. That's what I mean. It's sort of like they're kind of last minute, but for the size of them, I guess if you were gonna be organizing your wedding flowers, you probably would be in a comfortable space and timeframe to sort of get in touch with the rest of that time.
possible. I, I say that,
Well, yeah.
We've
Yeah. Yeah, totally. I am also, it's really funny or strange for me this time of year, so being that it's like Valentine's Day has been Valentine's Day, so normally it's like the busiest time, one of the busiest times of year for me. So you get Valentine's Mother's Day, Christmas, and then obviously wedding season, but Valentine's is like a big one. Normally I'm like run ragged and. You know, shout out to all the florist that they're working in, like retail shops because it's hard.
It is hard work. Like Valentine's Day is a slog and it, it is like, I remember, so I used to work at a florist intr, and we would like start. Like early hours of the morning, well, sort of like, I don't know. We'd come in at like five in the morning, finish at like one in the morning
All those
and that'd go on for days. Yeah, the matter of roses and things and all the conditioning and, oh, I loved it though. It was so good. I do miss it. I like, I miss being that bit. Obviously I can't do it this year,
no,
but there's no way. Not with a baby, but it's.
a, a, a single stem row. Or say what, what's the classic like 20 roses or roses or something? Isn't it in a, in a bunch for Valentine's.
That is generous. You'd be lucky to get some,
there you go. What, what's, what's the difference in cost? For the rest of the year compared to Valentine's. 'cause that's the classic, isn't it? The
yeah.
the bouquet of red roses.
Yeah, so they like triple, so a a a stem basically triples in price at Valentine's Day, to be honest. You know, obviously supply and demand is what it is. And.
red rose.
Yeah. And you get people saying, I can go to the supermarket, can get a cheaper Yeah, you absolutely can, but you, you're not gonna get the quality you getting in a florist. They're so Well, they're not. No, not anymore. They maybe they used to be like, we used to get
gonna have a
Yeah, have a little, have a little look. I know like Aldi do like, like 12 for like, I don't dunno, a five or something, but they're them tiny, little like 30. I mean, you, you're looking at like five, six pounds of stem,
Okay,
retail price for, for rose.
Marks and Spencer's is 25 pounds, two
Yeah, so that's so cheap.
a stem.
So you'd be looking at like 50 quid and a double that? Yeah. Yeah.
yeah.
But then you, you're paying for quality.
Very
you'll not get the quality in like any of the supermarket says They're done on such a scale. That's why they're so cheap, because they're, and then they call, they're not like, like we obviously floret will buy like the top grade stems and things like that. And you pay for what you get, what you pay for as well, like you get. So I know I always offer like two different sort of price points. So I do like a standard one and I do a luxury one.
So you use like a, the standard one's like a, a, a rose variety called freedom. Which is like a Go-to Red Rose Rice. It is a, it is a good hardy stem. It's a lovely bloom. Lasts well, and then you get like the top quality sort of roses. So you get like Red Naomi or Grand Prix, which is like a really nice, it's like a velvet e. They're like, they're like the premium Red Rose. I mean, there's lots of others, but
Spencer's the rest of the year, you'd get 'em. I mean, I just looked there. Waitrose was 30
yeah.
You'd get them a lot cheaper, wouldn't you? The rest of the year? 'cause it's
Yeah, probably. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. The price just rockets. It really does. And then obviously, but the thing is that people don't see, obviously they, it really annoys me. It's just a bug bear of mine. Like, people are like, I'm going to the supermarket, get cheaper. It's like, yeah. But in the supermarket, they're just like slung 'em out. And the buckets, you've got someone actually stand, somebody has stood, conditioned, brought your rose from the wholesaler.
They've, they've, they've traveled it. I've traveled it.
it.
Brain, baby brain. They've taken it back to the shop. You've got someone conditioning thousands of stems. Stood there like literally with a knife, taken all of the, all of the the leafs off and the thorns, making sure they cut an angle and then they've put 'em in water for so long before they're then taken out and then made into a bunch for you. Like you, you're not gonna get that service in a.
longer, don't they? Because you've looked after them properly.
They last longer. Yeah. 'cause they've had that time in the water to be conditioned because when they arrive they come in boxes and they're, they're a little flat packed and they are like, the heads are like, sort of squished. They come in like cardboard boxes and people don't realize that that's how they come. And they have, you have to literally, like, they have to have a drink for like 12 hours or so, like to get 'em nice and.
wrap 'em up and
Yeah, they just, they're just slinging 'em in and they'll all be bruised. You get like a black sort of tone on the petals, like little when you go and have a look, if you look, obviously I can see it when I first look at them because I'm like, ugh, they're covered in like a black kind of I dunno, marking. And also what people don't realize, you never spray and I never spray red roses with water either because it, it, it stains the pets. It's, it like bleaches them almost. Yeah.
Hmm.
you've heard it all here today, people
all the rose tips, so your
anyway.
at the time of recording, it's in Valentine's in a couple of days, which is why we're talking about Valentine's. What are you doing anything your first Valentine's with baby?
We're not actually, well, we are, we're actually going to my mom and dad's for dinner,
Oh, I can't.
so we're spending it with my mom and dad having a roast. I was like, oh, they invited us so for dinner. So it was like, yeah, that'd be really nice. And then we were like, oh, it's Valentine's Day. Oh, well we don't do.
so Wednesday. Do you know? I love Valentine's Day. I am a
We, I used to. Yeah. No, it is, I, I love it. So I used to obviously being working in florist, I never was able to because I was never free.
Too
So we kind of just knew Normally we do something at the weekend, but we just haven't this time 'cause it's tired and
play.
maybe so
play.
what about you?
Yeah, we'll probably go out for dinner or something. I love Valentine's. My other half's not
that's cute.
but he's God. But I
It's like expensive.
I like it. like it. And it's Pancake day tomorrow. I
Oh, that's the big one.
Pancake Tale. I love Valentine's.
amazing. I love pancake day.
I'll
Yes. What's your, what's your topping of choice?
Nutella and or like
Oh
Mel. Dark chocolate, any kind of melted chocolate. And then
yeah.
I've got a
Oh,
and raspberries.
yeah. I like a good raspberry with chocolate, to be fair. Hmm.
a good old lemon sugar.
I see. I was gonna say my go-to is lemon sugar. 'cause I always find with the Nutella it gets, I, I get like really sort of excited and I put loads on and I have too much and I feel sick. Yeah.
too much. Too much.
And how was your week?
it's been a busy one. I've had lots of meetings going on, so I've had two new client, potential new client meetings, one which went ahead. Two final meetings for weddings that are coming up, and then two catch up meetings. So I'm kind of in that place. I. With my wedding plans for this year where it's like final linen color decisions and, you know, yeah.
Yeah.
So
Final bits.
of them, we, and I don't even know if people realize that you can always do this, but with your linen, especially if having colored linen or patterned linen, is get those samples ordered and take them into your decco company, even if,
Yeah.
one of my couples. We went to them, we got a whole tablecloth sent to us. We laid down the table and then we went to the deco company and was looking at like what kind of Bud Flowers does she wants for her flowers, for the florist to use, and what kind of candle holders she wants. So we kind of laid them all out so she could really see. Okay. You know, and I
That's really good.
mine, you know, hand logistical bits, you'll have a water. a wine there and a, you know, so it is
Lots of wine.
good. Fair to see. And I think people forget that sometimes, like make sure you get in all these samples. You know, I've got for my own wedding samples of, for the, for the bridesmaid dresses, for the linens, so you can really like match all those in and send them to your stationer and your decor decor company and stuff. So yeah, it's I think it's always nice to kind of look at those bits and really start to visualize how it's gonna look on the day.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's so important, isn't it? 'cause it's, it's, it's all right. Having these chats over, like zoom and like obviously over email, but actually putting it all together and actually being able to visualize it in person before the day.
Because we can't see in your brain, you know, like if that's not how you want it to look, then you know, and
Yeah.
like your napkin color. With your tablecloth color is, is important. 'cause you
Yeah.
could look online. The thing is, everything online looks so different. So you could look online and go, oh yeah, that looks. Color looks fine. And then actually when you get the swatches and you put, and it's exactly what happened to us at this meeting. So the, the napkin that we had ordered was actually a lot lighter than we thought. They wanted like an olive green, almost like a beige kind of color. So we've changed it. We've
Oh
it up. 'cause they sent us a few different swatches. So,
yeah.
until you've. Done those kind of things. You, you don't have an idea of what you wanna do and even if you are kind of DIYing it, doing all your own decor, like get out a table at home and put on like, you know, all hire just one white cloth from somewhere or whatever kind of color you are having. Or ask your venue if you can go to the venue and put on a cloth on a table and just put your bits out just so you know that, you know, it doesn't look too crowded or it. Doesn't
Yeah,
or you know, all those kind of bits, just to really
that's a really good
the
Yeah. Tip.
it to the people that are setting up for you on the day, so, yeah.
Yeah. I've had that a lot with couples that have come to me for flowers. They'll, they'll almost do like a mockup of their table and they'll be like, this is how a table's gonna look. So what would you suggest, like
For
for centerpieces and things like that?
or too
Yeah.
Yeah,
I think that's, that's a really good idea if you can, if you can do that. If you can go to your venue and actually do like a mock table, then that's excellent. Really good.
for our own wedding, been working on the stationary this week, so I know, yes, we've done so we are having a barbecue, so we have just done like little, like a couple of menus, like to go on the stage, the barbecue station I've done. So I love the look of having some sort of card on your place setting. So normally that's a. Menu. Right. So you had menus
Yeah.
or like
Yeah, yeah.
of thing. We are not having that because having a very informal, so I've done little cards that are like, welcome cards. It says like, welcome. And it has a little bit about, you know, thank you so much for coming. We're so excited to share the day with
Well that's really nice. I like that.
bit
different.
make sure you've got your taxis pre-booked. We are getting, you know, it's in the middle of the stick, so you need. You
Yeah,
Prebook.
get your taxi.
a little thing about, we've got a QR code on the back of it so they can scan the QR code and it goes to a Google drive, and then they can upload all their photos from the day into there. So we can all see
Oh, that's such a good idea. Oh my God. The technology of today. I sound so old saying that, but that is amazing. Like I don't even remember thinking like I could do that when I got married. It was only a year ago. I mean, it was obviously a thing, but.
there's so many things you can do online now and just making it easy for people and Yeah, and I think so often people take photos at your wedding and then you think, oh, I never even saw those, you
Yeah, because part of the day, looking back at all the photos, like the next, like when people are sending them all on WhatsApp to you and you're like, oh my God. It's, it's part of the, it's part of the day, isn't it? It's definitely part of the experience. Yeah. That's a really nice,
So, yeah, they're part of our aesthetics still. You know, we've got I'm gonna use like a nice dark green as a
yeah. Lush.
And then the f the font is, is all written in like silver foil which is nice. We're doing
Yes.
So yeah, excited about that. I've also seen this week somebody posted on a random Facebook group that their wedding is in. Were like, I think it was what, like the week before mine, and they were like, we're now officially under a hundred days Now, I don't know what you think about this, but I have no countdown. I've no, I, until that post, I had no Scooby-Doo, like how many kind of days it
How many days? Yeah,
oh, you know, it's like X weeks to your wedding. I'm like, is it, I, I
yeah. Oh no.
me freaks me out, like looking
Ah, panic.
Yeah, so
Yeah.
avoid, I know some people have like countdowns to their holidays and all sorts and their phones.
Yeah.
no.
Not that, not that person. No, I didn't. I think a couple of people might have told me how many days were like left and stuff, but also I'm really impatient. So like, things like that just irritate me.
the opposite. I'm like,
I'm like, oh, I want it to be like here. And then, oh, I wasn't really like that with the given birth 'cause. I actually did have a countdown on my phone for that. Well, it wasn't a countdown because I can't dunno the exact day, but it kept like telling me how many days and weeks I was and I found that getting like towards the end I was just getting so fed up. I was like so irritating,
Yeah. Fair play.
but yeah.
yeah, I don't really, I mean, when I look at my to-do list, I'm like. we're pretty set for the wedding, but yeah, I dunno. I feel like
But
like freak me out a little. When I saw
I feel like when you've, yeah.
it's a hundred
When you like realize. Yeah. And then you'll be like, oh, actually, have I done this or should I get that? And then you get the, that's when the panic buying starts
that. Like
and the last minute. Yeah.
I need. So I wrote my to-do list months ago, right up until, you know,
Yeah. You stick to that. That's good.
like,
Be strict.
I didn't want that six months ago, so I'm not having it now. So if anything, I'm at the phase wrong, cutting things out. I'm like, actually, I don't really need to do that. I don't need that. I don't need that.
Yeah. Yeah. See, do you know what, that's what I get. Like, I'm, I'm actually like that when I go shopping, right? So if I go clothes shopping, right? I pick loads of stuff up off the round, like yeah. Have me some of that.
Lovely. Lovely.
as I get round, I start thinking about how much money it is. I'm like, yeah, don't need that. End up like putting everything back and like leaving with one item.
what I do? Like when I online shop is I do that. So I put stuff in a basket and I don't check out straight away. I wait until the next
Yeah.
unless there's, obviously it's a sale and it's like they only hold it for 20 minutes or whatever. But yeah, if I leave, I'll leave stuff open on my safari and then I'll be like, right, do I actually, and then I think about it. And then when you actually
yeah,
most of the time it's like, nah, I don't actually need that.
yeah.
you
I'm like, am I tight or I don't know. I've got problem with shopping or,
sometimes email and you're like, you know, this is in your basket. Here's a 20% off code. And you're like, right. That's not why I do it though. So I'm like, actually, do I need it?
Have to think about it. But that's good though. It's like mind, you know, you know you can get these like, what's it called? Remember that? It was like really trend. It was like hogar or something. Do you remember? It was like mindfulness. I had a little book. Right? And it was like, it was like the living life. Anyway, it's like a. I think I wanna say it's like Swedish or something. Anyway, it's like mindfulness and you do like mindful eating.
And then so like when you're eating, you're like ever thinking about where the food's coming from when you're tasting it. I feel like that's how you should be when you're like planning a wedding.
Yeah. While I'm eating.
When you're buying stuff for your wedding. Do it in a mindful way so that you save yourself money.
Yeah, I also think it's a really good idea to like wait for certain things like so another really exciting thing we did this week, our wedding menu tasting yesterday.
Yes. Oh, that is one of the best bits.
best bits
Yes.
so glad that we've done it, even like in the job that I do. Right. I went with like so many questions because, and, and actually I was speaking to a couple recently who they're very similar to us, like having a quite an informal day and having a barbecue and they're like, do you know what? We don't need to do a a menu tasting. 'cause actually to do a menu tasting for a barbecue is quite difficult. And they did say to us, look.
We, let's do a tasting, but it's not gonna be, obviously we can't wheel out the barbecue. It'd just be you two. Like it would just
It up.
it would just be grilled, which was fine.
Yeah.
But it gave me such a good idea of a, like the different amounts of things. So like we've gone for like a couple of different salads, a couple of different sides. Like it gave me a
Yeah.
of how much I've ordered, and B, like the colors, because I wanted it really like. To look, I quite want everything to look really nice. Like I wanted like
Yeah.
spark loads of color and I was like, when I saw it,
Yeah. Like a colorful salad, fresh, and
that looks amazing, like the colors and
yeah.
yeah, it probably didn't give us a true form of what the meat is gonna be like. But the salads were amazing. The potatoes were amazing.
love a good salad.
just gave us such a good opportunity to go through. For example, we were talking about how is it gonna be laid out? How are we gonna display this? And I showed them some pictures and I said to them, okay, so if I want it like this, how much linen am I gonna need to order? So I was waiting on doing my linen order, so now I
Yeah.
that. Because actually what we
Yep.
was I am having dark green linen on the tables, so I thought I wanna transfer that through to like the barbecue station and to the drink station. But then they made a very good good point that actually I. Where the way that we are displaying it and with all the colors of the food, it would look better on white. And the same with the drinks. 'cause I'm having pink Prosecco, they were like, that will look better on white linen. So just things like
Yeah,
like, oh yeah, like so actually we are gonna
that's really good.
I just think those
Yeah.
is so
Yeah.
to know. And even down to little like logistics, like we were talking about how much refrigeration space we're gonna need. Ice, I said to them, can you guys like provide this much ice? 'cause we're doing like a beer bath and, and things like that. So.
That's cool.
yeah, they're exciting and great to eat loads of food. We ate so
Mm. Yeah. It's making me hungry.
good to go to for loads, logistic ideas. Even if you're having like a buffet, you're not going for a formal sit down meal. They brought some really amazing ideas to our dessert as well. So we've changed up our dessert slightly. We changed up our canapes. I think it's really important to try your canapes as well. 'cause there was a couple that I was a bit
That's a good point actually, because normally you don't try the cannae, so even we did, we did a menu tasting, but we never tried our cannae. No, we didn't do the cannae. We just did the, like the, the actual free course meal that we,
It's important
we had.
don't
It's, yeah.
be like, oh, that actually that looks a bit naff
Yeah, because I think actually Canna Pay is a very important part. They,
a
I honestly, if you're not doing a Canna Pay, you need some sort of snack. 'cause I, guests get hungry and then they get ang hangry. And I think, yeah, you just gotta feed people well. But yeah, canapes, I'm a big fan.
a good point at the tasting as well, is to work out like how much you are providing and is it enough?
Yeah. Yeah. Like seeing the amount of the food, like how much is it serving? Because I've been to weddings where like, and I, you know, I'm, I get hangry. I'm not gonna lie it,
I love
And you know what I mean? And you get like, you're so hungry 'cause you've waited so long and then the app portion is so small and that's all you get. And then you're kind of like stuck in a venue with no way to get other food. It's like, it's like my own personal hell.
Definitely, and I think so many people see the taste in as to go and trial the caterer. And I know some places do charge for that, and I think that
Yeah.
but I equally think it's so important that if your caterer said to you, you can come in for a tasting in, and then if you. You know, a lot of caterers will charge you for the tasting and then you they'll, they'll basically take it off the bill if you confirm them, which is fair enough. 'cause it costs 'em a lot of money to
yeah, yeah.
then ask to go back for another one if they don't offer it. Or if your caterer does charge, pay it, put it in your budget and grow because.
So important.
like the thing that come out of, I felt so good after doing our tasting yesterday. 'cause I came away like knowing, and there was things like for like the stationary for example, there's things that I've changed up on that because I was gonna get the menu printed onto a big board, but they were like, oh, we've got these really cool stands. So actually I can just print them onto card and put them on their stands, which will then be part of the display on the
Yeah.
and things like that that you probably wouldn't know until you actually go
No till you've actually been and had that discussion. Yeah, that's, it's the same as like you said, with doing like your mockup of your table for your linen and, and a decor. It's the same with your, with your food. It's such a big part of the day. And I think it's, I think it'd be like really sort of, I don't wanna say silly, but like to not actually do a taste of the,
Yeah.
food that you're gonna serve everybody and then just like, expect it to be all right on the day. Like, I mean we, so we had a three course meal for our wedding breakfast. And I mean, we paid like 20, so we went with my mom and my dad and my mother-in-Law and we all paid 25 pounds a head, which is like nothing. We had a three course meal. Yeah. We gotta to try the wine. Like, you know what I mean? It was,
then? Yeah.
yeah. So I thought to myself, that's not bad, is it? You know, that's nothing.
with it as well. That's,
yeah, yeah.
check it works. Do you all like it? But yeah, I do
Absolutely.
just such this kind of mindset of, oh, we're tastings for a three course meal, but actually this, like our
Yeah, it's not,
before we booked
yep.
we went and got a pizza from them. And we were like, oh, can we come and get a pizza and try it? And we, because we wanna do like a his and hers pizza. And obviously you only get
Yeah.
like three
Nice.
'cause it's just a bit much otherwise. So we wanted to try those, so we went and tried them, you know, and I think even if you're going informal or whatever, like make sure you're, you know, go in and meeting them, having a chat, try
Yeah, just me and the, especially with like so when you get a few food trucks and people like that often, they're obviously like, like a small business and things. It's nice just to meet the person that's coming to your, you know, wedding to serve like the food. And I think I, I just think it's important to get like that rapport with, with them and just, you know, they'll probably do your better service if you meet up and.
like. lot of these street food companies go to like festivals and stuff anyway. So they'll probably be somewhere they're like, oh yeah, come down and see us. And they
Yeah. Like along.
like when we went and tried our pizza, we then had the discussion of how do we want it serve? Do we want everybody to queue up? They make the pizzas fresh, they go into a box, they get a box of a pizza in it, or do we wanna do it as a buffet? So they'll put out slices of pizza and then people go up and help themselves. You know? So we got to have that conversation, whereas that's probably not something that we would've necessarily thought about unless we'd have gone and seen them.
Yeah.
I think as well as being so exciting and be excited, going to try loads of food. Also make sure that, you know, you're thinking about things like presentation linen. You know, if you're
Yeah.
meal, what kind of glassware do you need? You know, are you doing a toast drink? So you'll need like a champagne flute? What kind of cutlery? You know, how's the. Cutlery can be laid out. Me and you were literally having a conversation before we hopped on this call about charger plates. How many can you fit on the
Yeah.
you fit the cutlery either side of the charger plate or does it need to go in a
I.
napkin? You know, all those kind of things.
These are all questions that if some people might think are silly or like it's too de in detail, but actually it's really important to try, it's, it's important for logistics, for your tables to fit everybody round. You know, like the size of the table, you know, like how is it a five foot, six foot? How many people are you having on there? And like you say, fitting everything on as well as food drink cutlery.
will make you aware of that. They'll be, they'll
Yeah. They'll know.
are you gonna have? 'cause we need to fit, you know, if you're having sharing platters, for example, on the tables, like charcuterie
Yeah.
or something, they're gonna be like, we need X amount of space. So you
Yeah.
go and buy those craps, put on your tables because, or have lo, you know, low centerpieces that are big
the thing. This is the other thing for me. I need to know. Yeah. So I, if, I mean, I've done what I, so I did a wedding back in September last year, and they had these huge wreaths of beautiful, like masses of, like, it had all gyps off iron roses climbing out of them. They were massive. I wanna say they were like 26 inch like W reefs, probably bigger. Anyway, straight on the table, candles in the middle. We, like I, we'd spoke about what was going on the table.
We'd had all this conversation anyway, I was turned up to the venue to obviously do the, put them on
Yeah.
and the caterer comes out and is like, wait, whoa, hang on a minute. These are gonna have to come off the table for, they, they were having sharing boards and I'm not joking, you couldn't even bloody fit a glass of wine on there. They were so big. But that's what they, they, their tables were so small. So it was like an oversight from the couple. 'cause obviously we have this conversation and, and again, it was an, it was, it was a. A couple that had booked me very last minute.
I mean, we're talking about two weeks before the wedding, so it was very, it was very like last minute booking. I mean, they're beautiful, beautiful couple beautiful venue flowers. Do you know what I mean? It was just one of them things I always said, you know, I, I always ask you having a sharing planner. And I don't even think the venue knew they were having sharing platters. So the venue is obviously like a dry hire.
And then cater would come out and was like, you need to put these under the table while they're eating. I was like, you doing
Oh
these beautiful Flo? Like you shove them under the table.
You have to take stuff off. It's.
Oh, but I always, yeah.
you know what the biggest oversight normally is? That I've seen is long take banquet and tables. People that
Yes.
for example, if you've got two charger plates, you
Yeah.
will physically touch each other.
Not go.
the
Yeah. Like
but trestle
they're like off set. Be
then
set.
you've got down the center, they Yeah, you have
Yeah.
yeah, put them. Yeah. Offset them because otherwise you can't. But even then it is tight and you can't fit anything down the center. And I always say this to
Yeah,
recommend charges on banqueting tables and you have to
no.
like little bud VAs or just, you know, bit of
Yeah. Or bit of garland in. Yeah,
tall with a really like
yeah. Well, the, that's it. Yeah. You, I think you gotta go high. You've gotta do something very simplistic. It's I think people. That's it. I was gonna say, they're so narrow, they don't realize.
like be careful how many glass do you actually need? All those glasses? Do you need the big gold? You know the gold and glasses are stunning, but they're big. Do you need
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, you did,
No, I'm joking.
tables so you was all good.
Yeah. So round's. Okay. It's all right.
to really think about it. But yeah,
Yeah, that's true.
exciting little point at the wedding planning. I just think food is so important.
Yeah.
do with catering. I love talking catering.
I love food to be fair. So I'm, I'm so enthusiastic.
well. I'm like,
am having for lunch when you said charcuterie, I
do love a
delicious.
There's like, so, do you
Yeah.
so many things that you can go for nowadays. It's not just a
Yeah,
course.
this is it. That's it. So there is so many different things. So I think 'cause there was like a massive trend of people having grazing boards as well. Like I remember doing so many style shoots like just before Covid and it was like all grazing boards everywhere. And there's still now Me too.
there's quite a
I, I love it.
That just do that and
Yeah. Just do the grazing rods.
dessert ones. So you could
Yeah.
one out, especially for evening and then swap it to like then a dessert one. Oh,
Yeah, I, it's delicious.
Yes.
Yeah. So you're having obviously like a little bit different. You're having a barbecue, aren't you? So it's a little bit, yeah. It's not so formal
a 'cause
barbecue.
you can do a couple of different ways, which is one of the things they asked me. But, so we are having, we're only having 45 guests, so we are just gonna get people to go up to the barbecue. The meat will be all
Yeah.
which sometimes you can't do that if it's bigger guest numbers that'd have to use sha and dishes. And I was a bit like, I don't wanna use safe and dishes. I don't, you know, like the big
What? Sheen dishes. Oh, I know what you mean.
everything
Yeah. Is that what they called? Oh my gosh. I just thought it was like a dish. I dunno.
So we, our meat will be kept on the barbecue, and then the station will be for like the salads and potatoes and, and breads and
Yeah.
and then but you can also do barbecue to the tables. So you can have like boards, wood boards come out with like your meat on the boards and then like bowls of salads stuff. So again, there's
Okay.
do different things.
I was gonna say, 'cause when you say I'm having a barbecue, I guess my first, my first thoughts would be, how does that look at a wedding? You know, like, how does that work after a wedding?
is I, the way I described it is I want a barbecue like you would have in your back garden kind of thing,
Yeah.
got 45 guests. When
Yeah. So it's nice.
bigger numbers, anything more than that. IE could you do it in your back garden? You could do 40 people in your back garden for barbecue.
Yeah,
but any bigger than that, yeah. Sharing platters to a table works really well. 'cause you haven't got, as soon as you need to get people up, table by table to anything, whether that's a buffet, a pizza van, a a barbecue station, it takes time. 'cause people don't just get
yeah.
and go. They're like, oh yeah, just finish my chat with Nan and then we'll go, or, or we'll just go to
And that she.
you know.
It is, it's a big, that's a big thing. And, and going actually just off course bit, but food trucks. So where you've got people going up table by table. And it takes a long time.
so long.
I, yeah.
next week that we had this same discussion recently. Okay. So I'm doing it on the day management for them. So as soon as I got involved I was like, all right, let's re-look at this. So they're having a
Yeah.
The thing is with pizza trucks as well, is they can only churn out so many pizzas. So. Quick. It's the same with
Yep.
and stuff as well, so they want a really informal day. So I was like with, they've got 150 people, that's 15 tables. So you think if it
Yeah,
minutes, say for example,
you'd be waiting like four hours if you're the last table.
the first
Yes. You would.
bored by the time the last table's served.
Yeah.
changed it to, so we're gonna do the pizza truck's, gonna do loads of pe, churn out loads of pizzas, slice 'em all up, and then we're gonna do, put all the salads on the tables and then just whip. So every table will straight away have like one pizza each. 'cause we've got enough hands to get them all out within five minutes. And then we'll just keep topping 'em up. And I'm like, correct.
that's a good idea. That's it. Yeah.
So yeah, you do have to think
Yeah. I think that's an, that is speaking of oversights, I think that is a big one that people don't realize. When you have a, like a one food van, you've got like a hundred guests and you've got like 10 tables and they're taking like half an hour to do one table, the last table's gonna be absolutely starving and the first table's gonna be like, like you say, bored.
what's going
Bored by the time. Yeah, you gotta be, you think about these things like realistically timescale. That's, that's why I think it's so good to have this conversation because I honestly don't think people would even think about that. I think they think, oh yeah, food try nice and informal. That fits survive on my day. Absolutely, it does. But is it sort of, you know,
to sometimes as well is, I mean, I don't, I'm not finding it so much this year, but what I did find was like back at Covid as all these street food vans like popped up and
Yeah. Yeah.
happen again, they're like, oh yeah, we'll do weddings, but didn't take into consideration themselves that yes, a festival, they can easily do a hundred, 200 covers, but they're all coming at different times for a wedding is very different.
Yeah,
So I think have that conversation with your Kate, like how many weddings have you done before? How have you done it before? Like, how long is it gonna take? But I do find they are normally very honest, like this, this, this one that I'm working with in a couple of weeks and said to the couple, look, it's gonna take two hours for us to do your main course. So they've kind of taken that into consideration. I was like, that's not gonna work. Like that's long.
No, that is a long time.
And we have, and we've got it right down now, which is great.
That's really good. Yeah. So you thought, yeah.
But.
idea, but that's, yeah.
think it's so much more popular now, isn't it? Like I am seeing that a lot this year. Like people are steering away from the three course. They want hog roast, they want barbecues, they want the street
Our friends had a taco van. Like a Mexican tachos? Yeah, they did tacos. That was their main call main, sorry,
that
their main caterer. Yeah. And they, they had like a Mexican, it was like Mexican street fruit. So they like tacos. You could choose like either
that.
I can't remember what else. That's really bad. Brain's, like I think of burrito and then a fajita maybe. I dunno. So I'm just thinking of Mexican.
that where they had like a massive pan, like huge Macon chili. And you went up
Oh, yes. I love a chili. Chili's, like my signature dish. It's all I ever cook. Anyone comes over, I'm like, here, I make a chili. It's like, had you become a bit of a joke?
A chili girl chili with a bit
yeah, they had a,
whack, bit of nachos.
they talking.
probably make a
Oh.
Like I make like a all I, 'cause I can't eat beef. So I know you can use other meats, but I just like doing it with loads of beans. I make
Yeah,
once a week and it
yeah, yeah. I do it chili once a week, I'd say. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. And I love it on a
you can have on c Hey, you can have on nachos.
love.
You can have it with rice, like, you know, put it in a wrap.
Of champions.
of champions, like, come on people. Yeah, I might have that tonight. Now. I was gonna have
Yeah.
fry, but I'll have a chili again. So yeah, no, definitely, definitely so many more options now and so many ways to deliver it. So for that wedding, for example, with the chili, we went up and got it. It was tabled by table, but now you can speak to your caterer and get stuff like that put on the tables for sharing. But you need to think about the space. Definitely.
Yes,
What else would
absolutely.
You know, food wise, if you were going to a wedding, what would be like your ideal if you didn't do a three-course meal now,
Yeah.
do?
Oh, that's a good question.
I
Chili.
shit. I'll have a Chinese,
Oh my God. Yeah. Chinese. Oh yeah. Bloody love a Chinese.
course. I love that you get
I, I.
times.
I? Yeah, exactly. I do. You know what? For me it's like quantity over quality when it comes to food or wedding. I just feel like you gotta get, I dunno, I mean like obviously get the quality as well, but the more food, the better. I don't care what it's, but I liked, like when we did our, I was just really conscious when we got married, like the people weren't gonna be hungry, and that's why I wanted to do like the free course. So I just, I was just like. Obviously it was traditional as well.
It kind of fitted in with like our venue and like the, what we were going for.
Your
But also you got a lot of food for what you, you know, there were big portions, so it was nice. And then we did, and then in the evening we had like rolls, I think it was like Bri buns and they had, we had like like burgers and halmi burgers and stuff. So,
Yeah,
yeah. And then the cake.
I love, I love a bit of chicken and a bit of pate for starter cheesecake for
Oh, God. Yeah. I love pate. I haven't had pate since before I was pregnant.
to get down that
I,
get you some pate.
I, I forgot about that. I love pate.
as well, don't
Oh my god. Love a picky tea. Yes.
of pat. You get a
And
A bit of
oh
and
yes.
Bit of bread. Yeah.
Oh, delicious.
Delicious.
actually, yeah, prob probably go for a, I do love a buffet, I have to say probably with a big old buffet, but like a, like a, like a grazing board buffet. So it's like they're fancy. They're fancy.
really like load up.
Yeah. Oh, you can eat.
of doing
Oh dear.
that. You know,
Yeah.
to just come and help themselves. And then for our dessert, honestly, I was blown away at this tasting
Oh.
oh, we having ch baked cheesecake and normal cheesecake, and then they're
Yes.
three different sauce, chocolate fruit cooley, and a toffee sauce. And then there's like fruit bits, so like raspberries, blueberries, and stuff.
Oh, you can kind of build your own cheesecake.
Oreos and Biscoff.
Oh my God.
they
I.
to do, so I was gonna do like slices of cheesecake. They were like, why don't we do like little mini bites? So you could almost build like a trio yourself. So if you just wanted all chocolate, you
Yeah.
or you could do like three little mini ones of like all the different sauces and stuff. I was like, yes.
I'm literally getting so hungry listening to this mouth water, and I'm like, mm. Cheesecake.
I know, right? I know. But yeah, no, I also like the vibe of a, like a food truck. 'cause they look like you can get some really cool ones nowadays,
Yeah, get some really cool pictures as well, like a couple photos like eating a burger or something.
I had a couple last year who instead of having a wedding cake in the evening, like, so they didn't want a wedding cake, so they didn't have like the cutting of the cake photo. So they had a hog roast for the evening and they cut the pig
Yeah.
first
Oh.
There's like this big knife thing. I know. They're just huge, that hog, although I'm not a big fan of a hog roast. I'm not a big fan of like the pig on the stick, sit, chew. I just,
Do you know what, right? I'm gonna tell you a story. Okay.
on. Go
So when I was younger, I used to work in the village pub, not for long. I, I think I did like a year or something. Anyway, waitressing and the chef was an alcoholic. Okay. And he used to, he literally, I used, have to ring him and then go and like ring his doorbell and get him out of bed like this. I'm not even joking, right? Anyway, this one occasion, we had like a big barbecue event on for the village, and it was like a big deal and we'd ordered this. Bloody great hog.
Okay. And it turns up he's nowhere to be seen. I can't find him. I had to get the stick, I had to ram this, stick through this hog, and I'm literally like smashing with a hammer. This spike through a ho, just
Oh
up. And I was like, you piece of shit. I was so annoyed. Oh my god. So, and there's no end to my talent. So I'll do your flowers. I'll also ram a stick up.
and they take a long time to cook, don't they? Like hours
Yeah, they do. I mean, it was all, all right. In the end, it all turned out fine. Like luckily, I'm not like, I was just, so I'm gonna have to do this. I'm gonna take one for the team here, but
for
the hog got roasted.
they freak me out. Especially when people literal leave their head on and like put an app on
Oh
Like
yeah. Like what's the app? It smelled no. Yeah. But then actually, wouldn't it be weird if it was headless?
most people do do 'em headless, but yeah, they, that looks
Do they, I don't really recall.
like it's back and like it's bum
Oh no. Now you put me off. And I love, I love a good hog roast,
I not, I like, oh yeah. Don't get me wrong. Love a Hulk roast, love a bit of pork
apple sauce.
yeah. All day
delicious.
But the actual, having it on display, yeah, I'm not sure.
Don't wanna see it. I just wanna eat it.
Should we go to some,
Wow.
questions? Yeah.
I mean, we're following on quite nicely here. So I've got a little, I've got a little article I came across, which I really liked. So I feel like it fit in, it fits in quite nicely with our podcast because it's, it's about cake and I feel like, I feel like it's, it really should come under the am I the asshole sort of category here. So this couple apparently they charged their. Guests per person. A cost for a size of cake. So for their wedding cake, they charge their guests to, to, to eat it.
I mean.
this like how much info do you know? Like what.
So, so I know that they not only so, so ba basically this has come about because a guest that went took two slices of cake but had only paid for one. And the couple went through their CCTV footage of all of the day and they noticed that this guest had had not one but two slices. So more than their paid for slice. And they actually messaged them demanding that they paid
down by a certain amount of
Yeah, they were down three pounds, 66. That's how much they charged each slice.
So quite often I'll cut a cake. Yeah.
Yeah,
that like fall apart. So you just put 'em in the bin because they've just literally fallen into
yeah, yeah,
you always, you know, sneak a sneaky little bit of cake. Guess why you
yeah. Like, oh.
Do you know what I mean? Like how would
You know what I mean?
hated to have cut that cake to
Yeah. Oh my God. Do you know what? It's just ridiculous. And actually it takes me back. My friends got married in August and we me and one of the other bridesmaids we had to cut the cake for them. So their wedding? Yeah.
No,
Me. Oh my God. And so my, the one, my other friend who was the other price weight. Started to cut the cake and she cut it into like a slight, you know, like you cut a slice of cake. That's not how you cut a wedding cake. Now I don't know much about this. Okay. But I've seen the odd TikTok video, right when you cut it into like lengths and then you cut it into like little, like rectangles now.
Yeah. Yeah. So she cut like a slice, like a big triangle and gave some the, the first person got this great big triangle. I.
No. Also, how, Why was their caterer not doing this or their coordinator? Because, I'm sorry.
So they,
a
they got married,
I always am covered
got covered, yeah. I was covered in icing and there was, there was wasps everywhere, which I had to keep, I literally killed it with one, with a knife. And then they more come, more come, you kill one wasp, they all come for you. And I was like,
that's bad form let get you to do that. That's really
I mean.
catering
don't think they expected us to, but there was no one else to do it. They were literally, so basically they, they got married at like a Woodland venue, so it was like, it was like a dry hire. Like, and I think they, so they didn't,
Oh.
they shoulda hired. Yeah. So they didn't have, they didn't have like coordinators. So there so like the grooms and us bridesmaids that we all pretty much had a, like, jobs like to, to help kind of things. That's how it kind of worked.
of why you hire a coordinator. It's an extra cost, but you,
Yeah, of course you can have me touching all your cake
friends
your dirty, sticky hands.
Do you know what I mean? It always reiterate that you shouldn't have to be running around doing jobs on the day. Like you should be enjoying
Oh,
the K-cup. Why? And would would the caterer not do
I mean, it was a funny story to, there was, there wasn't so they had the food van but they didn't have like a caterer, so. It, obviously the food truck came and did the, like tacos and stuff, but they didn't have like an actual like caterer that would've done the cake. But I mean, it was, it was fine in the end. It was a funny story to tell, but I was just like finding it hilarious that I was cutting this cake because I thought, I literally just doing this. 'cause I've seen it on TikTok,
literally
like
hard, again, it's something that people
I was panicking.
It's not an easy job.
And then, and then they had a lady come up to me, one of the guests who I didn't know, and she was like, does the cake have nuts in it or something?
No,
And I was like, look. I was like, so I know that my friend's mom. The cake was delicious, by the way. It was absolutely lovely. She, her mom had made the cake, so I was like, look, I don't think there, I knew what flavor it was. I was like, I don't think there's any nuts in it, but I can't tell you for sure. And it could have been made where they're nuts. Yeah. And I was like, I can't tell. I can't say it. And then she was like, fuck, my daughter wants some cake like that.
And I was like, well, I can't give it to you because it might have nuts.
geez.
And it me and me and the other bride were just like, oh boy. It was a massive, I sweating bad.
you need a fricking coordinator. All right, that is point a point. Proven.
dear.
what happens? So
But
right? They charge the slices. How would you do that? What is it? Like an honesty box. You chuck in a quid and then you get a slice.
I don't understand. They haven't gone into much detail, which is kind of annoying actually. It is
info.
mainly that they, I just wanna know who's looking through the CCTV footage of their wedding.
Definitely. You don't
proper ales.
your wedding and try, it's like inviting someone around for a birthday party and charge 'em for a beer cake. Like for one you got from ster for a tenner. You know, like you just don't
Yeah, they don't. So I think they, they actually messaged this couple that, or this person, this guest had taken more than one slice. They say, Hey, so we were looking at the CCTV and saw that you had two pieces of wedding cake. We announced that each guest must pay per slice and notice that you only paid for one. Can you please send the three pound 66 asap?
Six.
So specific, isn't it,
of money
for a bloody slice of cake. Tiny little, you know,
Inch by inch.
as I know Well, how big the are.
Oh no.
That's terrible. These people are proper ourselves. But yeah, that's that.
Should we move on to the
That's that. Yeah. Go for it.
one. After a bit of advice, as I'm not sure how this normally works, I'd imagine my mom and my partner's mom would choose outfits that kind of compliment our color scheme for the wedding as they think it would help them
Yep.
and also look nice in photos. However, my mom has been looking at dresses that don't go with the wedding colors at all, and I'm not sure if that's normal, if or if I should ask, if she'd rather compliment them. At all. They're not awful colors. I was just surprised as I've got used to imagining things a certain way. I don't wanna sound
Yeah.
controlling, and I know all the guests will be in different colors anyway, but I was surprised her color choice was so different and wondered what other couples thought about it. It's also possible she's not realized that this color is nowhere in the color scheme and also don't, doesn't know what I've imagined.
Okay, so this is, that's quite a good question. It's a difficult one to answer.
I didn't care. I was like, wear what you wanna
No,
then we are
so I think there's, yeah.
planning on doing like loads of group shots. I think if you are planning on, it's a nice idea to maybe tie the colors in, but then like she said, all the guests are gonna be different anyway, so why does
Exactly. So it doesn't, I think you've gotta also appreciate that your mom might be wearing colors that she feels comfortable in. You know, like some people don't like to wear a certain color. I, I think it's a little harsh to kind of dictate what they can wear, but at the same time, like my mom did, like turn around and say, oh, what can I wear that a compliment? So she actually, she actually did like, just took that upon herself.
But then some people like say they might just not feel comfortable in that color. And they might, they might, or they might want some guidance. They maybe, maybe they just, she doesn't know
but
and she maybe wants that.
I really think like people are mind readers. Like you
No
basically what you've said to us, just go
voice, what you've said.
I'm
Yeah.
but FYI, if you wanna feel a bit more involved, like.
Yeah. That's a nice way to put it. Yeah.
to like, you know, it'd be lovely if you wanna match the bridesmaids, but at the same time, if you don't like, absolutely fine. Like, because
Don't worry about it. Yeah,
on the other hand be thinking, oh, I don't wanna impose on, you know, making myself look like a bridesmaid that might piss the bride
yeah,
So it's
yeah. Exactly.
minutes. Some people would be annoyed by that and some people would
You need to communicate.
a hundred
Just gotta comm it all goes back to communication. Something that we, we champion here over the Let's get your word podcast.
any kind of set. I always think the mothers generally wear something like a fascinator or something, which I always think is quite
Yeah.
like a hat or something that kind of almost marks them as, you know, they are
As, yeah.
But I,
Yeah.
don't
I am the hierarchy.
But I think it depends what color scheme you're doing. Like you say, it just might not be their, their color and also,
Yeah,
a bridesmaid as such. I think
no, exactly.
i walking you down the aisle, it'd be nice for them to match in. But
Yeah. I really don't think it matters
I
at all. Like,
see mums that do tie into the color
no,
Your mom,
no.
color scheme was like blush pink and your mom was in like a pale kind of nudie color,
Yeah, my mom, yeah, she wore like a blush pink and it had navy on it as well, so we obviously the, yeah, her dress was lovely. Really nice.
I love
She did. She had, yeah. Yeah. That's it.
as like, I think, yeah. That's
Hello. It's me
yeah.
mother, the bride. Yeah.
like the hats and the fascinators. Yeah.
Yeah. So I think definitely communicate with your mom. Just explain, you know, yeah. Have a.
oh, maybe she don't want me.
actually, yes. Maybe that's what I say. Like, like you said, people aren't mind readers. You've gotta have these conversations. It's not offensive what you are gonna say. You know, it's not like you're saying you have to wear this. I mean, if you were gonna say, oh, you have to wear this, and then that makes you an asshole. So
when you said, oh, I don't wanna come sound pushy or controlling. Yeah, you'll sound pushy and controlling. If you say mum, you need to wear this color. Like, why
yeah, you have to wear blush pink to go to my blush pink wedding or something. Yeah.
are like, oh. By the way, if, if you would like to tie in, then, you know, feel
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Perfect. Lovely. Well hopefully that helps with your query
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