Featuring Rachel Platten

two with the amazing Rachel plattin Now. You might know her from her mega hit Byte song, but she is one of the most inspiring and creative people I've talked to. We talked about her new song Soldiers, which is out now, which you should listen to. We talked about her children's book How to Stay Creative, How to Get Out of a Creative Red Meditation Manifestation. She may or may not

walk us through a manifestation meditation exercise. That was the mouthful. Rachel, Thank you so much for coming on my podcast again. I love this episode so much. Don't forget to subscribe, and I hope you enjoy it. I am so excited to have you all my podcast, Rachel, but you're so welcome I've loved your music for so many years, but just beyond your music, you are one of the very few people that are so honest and vulnerable and authentic. And that's the thing that I've that was a catalyst

for me starting the podcast. And you have to wait a long time for your first hit. What was it over thirteen years? Yeah, you had to wait a minute. And I feel like you be here in a time where we very much have to practice patients for the world to get back to normal, and you know patients better than anybody. So what advice do you have for just patients, because I think we all need it right now. Oh it's such a good question, And I honestly I probably need my own advice too, because I don't really

feel like I was that patient during the time. I just more, um, I was strong, like I could deal with the failure and the setbacks and the rejection well. And then I did. And I'm like a good comeback kid, Like I'm not all enlightened and know every thing I figured out. But one thing I can do well is quickly, um, realign myself and like figure out again how to pick myself back up and get myself back on my feet.

And it's so funny because I'm teaching my toddler right now patients and yeah, we say the word all the time, and watching it in so many different forms in the way that we've had to be patient this year with um, you know, missing people and missing our normal lives and the struggle that obviously you and I are going through, but other people are affected even more. And there's just so much that we're all missing, and I've had to sacrifice and give up right now. And some of it's

for the better. I mean, I know that there's benefits to it, but I think my advice right now, oh my goodness, would just be And I'm doing it myself every day A come up with a gratitude practice to be in the moment and appreciate little things and the things that we do have rather than the stress of what we don't have. Like yesterday, I was feeling really lonely and missing my family there on the East Coast, and I wanted a hug so badly from just a

girlfriend or family member. But I realized I did a little meditation, and I centered myself and I realized, you know, I've done so much work. I can be that loving presence for myself. I can put a hand on my heart and give myself the nurturing that I need, and even give myself a hug. It sounds silly, but you know, we can do it. I can give myself the love that I'm seeking. And I think maybe the lesson is like finding, yeah, what we do have, not what we're lacking.

And in general, I think it's a beautiful lesson because it reminds us that we have so much to give, and often we're looking to receive and get, but we forget all the power and love that we have to give in our own hearts. I think that's so true. And I feel like we're in a time where I've been trying to figure out a form of self care. I'm not sure what that is at the moment um. I've been applying to college the first semester, I've been doing five classes. I'm still in high school. I've been

balancing the podcast with during a pandemic. It's been really interesting and I think I'm very drained at this point um And I can't imagine it's hard, but I've tried um meditating and I can't focus for that long. What advice do you have for that, because you seem very into it. I am into it, but I don't know that I was into it at eighteen. I think I think it's tough when you're younger and unless you've grown

up with being a common thing that you're taught. I'm trying to teach my two year old now to take deep breaths and like I'll like do a meditation and I'll have her sit on my lap and just be comfortable with the being still with yourself without doing anything. And obviously she can last maybe like realistically a minute and a half or two minutes. But that's impressive for a two year old. Though. I think it's I mean, it's pretty cool, um, but I think it's really hard

if you having grown up with it. I think my mom introduced me to yoga when I was seventeen or eighteen, maybe right around your age, and I was feeling so much stress. I remember that age is really really confusing and hard, harder than we give it credit for. It's like it's so much pressure. So you're supposed to you think you're supposed to figure out the whole entire rest of your life, and you think these certain set of

decisions are going to dictate. But the truth is emmy at least for me, I had no idea what path of my life was going to take when I was eighteen. I planned it in one way. I think there are always open doors that come There's all these like these miraculous opportunities that show up, and I think you just take the next best step and take the pressure off a little bit and just say what feels good for right now, not what's going to be like my you know,

life plan in ten years. So much stress. Okay, but anyway, now me that advice meditating, No I do because I feel like we're in this place. If you're a senior right now, you probably understand where. You know, we're applying to colleges that we've never even visited, and so we're determining we're supposed to go. There are these virtual tours, but you can only get so much out of that. I have to decide by May first, like what I'm going to be doing next year when I have no

idea what that is. Oh my god, that is I didn't even think about that. For you guys, that is really hard. There's so much you get from the energy of feeling a place and feeling if you fit into it, and like even just going into cafeteria or like a library and seeing is this like my vibes, this feel. I'm really sorry that you're having to go through that,

you know, but we compare. I'm so lucky that I am able to have the opportunity to go through it and to have I'm lucky to be able to be stressed about it, you know what I mean, Because people don't even get that opportunity. Um, But I have lived in New York my whole life. I go to school in New York, and it's doing school online at home in an apartment. Is what's stressful? Where did you grow up? Oh my god, I really feel for you, guys. I can't imagine what that feels like to have to do homeschool.

I've seen it my my friends where moms who are trying to put their kids through home school. But I don't know that many um high school age kids who are like having to deal with it. And honestly, I am so sorry for all of you. It's sounds horrible, but I love that you. I love that you shifted yourself even that like shift from like oh, this is a problem, and this is something that is hurting me to how lucky you are. I really think that mindset is so integral and important in how we're able to

have you keep our mental health, keep mentally healthy. UM. I grew up in Boston, right outside of Boston, and I actually moved to New York when I was um one where in New York I lived all over I lived um When I first moved there, I was in the Upper East Side, and then I was down in the village for years, for like seven years, so fun would you ever move back? I don't know. I was there for twelve years and it was a really beautiful time.

I was just talking to my friends and the other night about out the scene, the music scene in the West Village. Did you guys ever check out shows? And like, I don't know if it was around the Bitter End or the Red Lion or we never. We didn't really do that growing up. But it's as I've gotten older, I've been to a few shows downtown and it's it's the energy where it's in a little place, but it's still electric and it's even more special than the big

arenas because you feel this connection. But I don't think a lot of people realize, Oh, I'm so glad you do. Yeah, that's exactly it. That was what I came up. That was the scene that I came up in, and that infused how I look at arena shows now, Like the the smallness and the intimacy and the connection of those tiny little clubs that were like candle it where you know, maybe it was like five or ten people in them.

Sometimes I was playing um piano like covers for three hours to try to make my rent, but it was there'd be this like electric moments if I played a song that everyone loved, where every one singing along in some stuffy, tiny little New York City bar, and it's

the most magical that I felt like. I saw Julia Michael's um it was more than there was a couple hundred people, but it was still in the small venue in downtown New York, and it was she went into the audience and it was she was singing her song Anxiety, which I was like the first song. I was like, whoa, I relate to this and everyone started screaming and it was like the most Matt. I felt like it was magic and I've never experienced that before, and I think

that's the power of music. Do you remember when you first realize, you know, like music, I want to do this. Um. Yeah. I was in Trinidad at the time. So I went to school at Trinity College in Connecticut, and um, I wasn't doing it, wasn't pursuing music. I didn't really grow up with the belief that, like, I was that special or talented. I grew up in outside of Boston and it was really heavily on education, like go to graduate school,

be serious. I didn't really know a lot of artists and so that that path didn't seem like very realistic for me. And I also wasn't I wasn't like always getting the solos. I wasn't like that I had a good voice. It was fine, my parents liked it, but yeah, yeah, it's really nice. Um. But I went to Trinidad when I was a junior because there was some presentation in one of my international relations classes. I was international relations major by the way, in case you're curious, and I

was in one of my classes. They were they did a presentation on carnival in Trinidad, and they were like, music infuses all of Trinidad. In life, music is the soul and the heartbeat and something in me. I mean, I've always been inquires acapella groups and I played piano since I was five, and so music was a part

of my life, but I'd never put it first. And hearing this presentation and feeling the pulse of of a country that was like kind of born on music and spoken music and you know, I don't know, something lit up in me and I was like, I need to go there, and so I went to Trinidad for an abroad program. I ended up staying throughout the summer and I joined a band when I was there, and it was a SOACA band, which is soul meets calypso and um.

I ended up my first real concert concert was on stage in front of eighty thousand people at the International SACA Monarch Finals. Bananas. Okay. I did not feel intimidated. So I got on the stage and all of a sudden, I felt this. I don't know if you felt this moment in your life. Actually you probably have because you're doing it. But I felt this moment of true calling, like I am exactly where I'm supposed to be, this

is who I am. I was not able to hear it before because I was scared, But oh my goodness, this is what I'm supposed to do with my life. And like light lightbulbs went off everywhere and I was like, I need that mic in the front of the stage. Obviously I didn't go grab it, but that the most magical thing because I know exactly what you're talking about. After I have like one of my first interviews, I was like, WHOA, I don't know what this feeling is, but this feels like I I feel like at home

in a weird way. Yes it's a weird feeling, but it's great, Sammy. You know how lucky you are to have that feeling so young. It's really a gift. It just feels like I feel like I've always been a lot older than my age, even when I was young, and I feel like I was like a third year old in a twelve year old body. Um and so I never really I didn't like the middle school to high school, just the priorities, the shenanigans, a gossip, it was so um ridiculous to me getting swarmed up and

wondering about who's invited to this party? And I always felt like there's something so much bigger going on. Um and I just that's how I created my podcast. My anxiety was an all time low of my sophomore and if you have anxiety, probably know distraction can be your best friend. Um And so I started listening to podcasts and I couldn't find anything I related to. So then I decided to create one just for fun, because again, distraction. Here we are today. It's season two. Oh my god,

that's very incredible. Wow. I hope my daughter's like you. I really do. And it's it's all that my husband and I wish for her is that she um find something that she loves and we don't care what it is, but that she pours her heart into it. And honestly, I know it. It is hard. And I felt the same way growing up, like I don't quite fit in to the to the agenda here. I don't get it. In middle school, I wasn't very popular. Um. I haven't

really told anyone this part before. I don't think I was ever asked, but I wasn't bullied, But I just no one. I wasn't like I just I just didn't get it. But you know, the kids were like smoking cigarettes under the bleachers before school because that was cool. And see if for your work it was vaping in the bathroom, that's what the equivalent was, don't kids, don't don't do it and don't do any of it. It's just like, or you can if that's your truth, We're

not judging for you. But if that's your truth, maybe everyone has to take their own path to getting to where they are. But you know, for me and I would like I just didn't get it. I was like, why are we doing this? Why can't we be kind? Like? Why is it being nice cool? Why isn't there things happened trying? Why isn't trying cool? Like I was. I wanted to do well with my homework and do well inquired and it was so dorky. And I was always petrified of like authority. I was the one I couldn't

skip lunch if they counted. I was that okay back, yeah me too. I was so afraid of I still this way if anyone I'm so sensitive that if anyone say sizes me, I will just burst into tears. It's like so ridiculous. I honestly this is like one of my favorite things because when I started the podcast, I just felt so alone. And I've realized people that I look up to an artist like you, you know, where

so similar people don't realize that you're human. And I feel like, if you have any type of social media following, you're put on this pedestal as if you're not a human. And it makes me so mad. So I how have you dealt with that? The social media fakeness and all that. I have a love hate relationship right now with social media. I'm saying I'm not doing a great job with it.

I mean, thank you, I'm so glad that you feel like I am I And I get so many comments like that, actually, like, thank you so much for keeping it real. But the truth is I I've watched myself like lose followers since not playing the right game, like since not posting like the cute outfits and like the perfect makeup and like the things that I was posting before.

And I've watched myself lose followers, and it hurts my soul because I'm like, wait, I'm doing the wrong thing, but I'm actually doing the right thing because I'm speaking my truth and just like being like, hey today I feel like shit or today I'm anxious or sorry for this work today, I'm weaking curse on here. Okay, I don't know, Like I I struggle with it because on the one hand, sometimes I wake up and I'm like, oh, dang, I have a platform. It's my responsibility to share how

I feel. But but you're too that wants privacy at the same time, I want privacy right now, especially because I'm going through a lot and I'm making an album and I really don't know how to do the same to them at the same time, like I don't understand the artists. More power to them that can continually create content and fill their wells enough to create maybe the kind of creating I do. Um. I don't hope. I don't mean to sound I'm not special than more special

in other artists. But I go really, really deep. I like to have there like journal injuries. A lot of artists do this. But for some reason for me, maybe I don't know. At least this time I've been I've had to excavate so much and almost go into this cocoon to really like go through my dark knight of the soul and and feel like I don't know, becoming a mother all these changes, dealing with fame whatever, you know,

the highs and lows of all of it. Um I really had to go deep and it's been really hard for me honestly to then share publicly at the same time. So have a good day, friends, I'm doing great. I don't know if I'm doing a job right now. I'm trying, but it's fine that you're not doing your best. I'm in a weird place to a social media where you know, I'm trying to think of it more as um as

for my career then for like being a team. But at the same time, I am eighteen years old and then I do have that social media pressure of anxiety and seeing having Polo and all that. So I'm trying to find this balance where I need to grow in order to technically have be more successful because you know, companies look at your followers at the same time my much real health. I try not to look at it.

I am the same way. It's really really tough. I wonder how many people listening feel the same way that we do and wish there was a solution, because I mean, I feel like there's more of us than just you, and I feel like it's a really talk. It's not talked about. I know, I try to talk about it, and then I feel like, oh, I guess I shouldn't criticize social media. On social media, that's a little silly. But I know what you mean. But you know what

I think that I've watched. Also, I've also watched friends who are really have excellent mental health and excellent relationships social media. I've tried to learn from them a little bit more. And and when I'm really when maybe i'm not creating like an album, I'm better balanced and able to live able. I'm able to live my life and share my life at the same time. At the same time, You've two year old and you're creating an album and you're in a pandemic girl, thank you Sammy. People need

to realize that it's this weird. You know, someone gave me advice. They said, um, the best thing to do is share, and then observe, share observed, share observed. And the observe is not observe what hurts you or what makes you feel bad, but observe how it all makes you feel. So like, for instance, if I'm following and I'm following a ton of fellow musicians, I'll feel fomo too. You know, I'm I didn't grow out of it either.

I don't know that we ever truly do. And I'll look and I'll be like, oh, dang, they're doing this, or they look how keep they look? Look at their abste you know, just whatever, just the feeling that we're all we all have. UM. I use my meditation practice then to watch that feeling. And this is where I actually do want to share a little meditation thing with you. This is what I think, um her meditation can be really beautiful because it isn't necessarily about trying to quiet

your mind. For me, it's about watching my mind and being the observer because the waves of our minds are going to keep going. You know, they're not going to ever stop that shatter that anxiety. That's just what a mind does. It's natural. It's called monkey mind and Buddhism, it's just what a mind does. I love that. It's okay, you don't need to stop it. But what meditation has helped me do is realize that I am not the mind. I am not those waves going up and down. I

am actually part of the ocean. I am the ocean watching them. And so I think beneath the thoughts and meditation, I just let them go on, but I just go to a deeper place that's beautiful. Wow, thank you. Okay, we have to take a quick break, but when we come back, I want to take you up on your offer to try some meditation during this conversation, I also want to talk to you about where and how you find creative inspiration for your music and of course your

mega hit Bite song and we're back. It's hard to start your career and be a musician. Like you said, you were performing in front of ten fifteen people, but I think that's so special that you were content with that. How have you dealt with um? As humans, you know, we always want more and we keep trying to chase something else even when we get to it. How have you have you found a place of contentment or are

you still working on that? These are such good questions, Sammy. Um. Sorry, I needed to process that, and I think in some ways that isla almost like this mountain that is never ending in my life. It's like, but there are plateaus. So I did reach a point three years ago, right before I had my daughter, where I had been hurting so much because I wanted so much more, and I wasn't able to get so much more, even though I already had had a crazy amount according to anyone who

would trying to, you know, achieve a musical. Scus's sold ten million records, Like what is you know, what's wrong with my mind that I can't understand and register? That's enough. So it was so much pain and so much not enoughness, and so much trying and and like looking for that feeling of fulfillment outside of myself that finally just cracked, like it collapsed. And it was really a painful like

they all are. It was a painful growth. And I went on a really incredible trip, like a spiritual trip with friends. And on that trip, I climbed this mount where you go to Israel. Oh my god, I'm gonna go with my brother for birth right, so amazing, it's so incredible. And I climbed Mountain Assiah, which is the I hope I'm getting, I think, the trail of Tears. And at the top of it, I had been feeling so angry at God, like why didn't you you took

me so high? You gave me like two hits, and then you know, albums it's sold and all the success, and then I put out this album, this next album that I loved so much, and it really didn't do very well, and it was really hurt and confusing to my ego, and I was so mad. I was like blaming and looking around, like, whose fault is it? My publist fault at all? About just becoming someone that I'm not. I didn't get there by being that person. I got got there by being the kind like full of light

love soul that I am. But I was turning into this I don't know who. It was, some like crazy answer and I and all this blame and anger, and I climbed the mountain and at the top of the mountain, I had friends that were so amazing and supporting me and helping me all throughout this. And this was a long journey of therapy and everything. But by the by the time I got to the mount something cracked open and I just started sobbing, and it shifted. It's talking

about what we talked about earlier. I shifted from anger to gratitude. And I had this big, huge realization that, oh my God, like everything in my life, this was not happening to me. This is happening for me. If I continued down this path of success at the rate that I was going, I was going to become someone that I didn't like. My family, didn't like, my friends, didn't like. Someone I didn't want to be in the world. Who cares about fame If you are not a good

kind person, none of that matters. And I was becoming someone that I did not want to be. And so I realized at that moment, oh my god, this was a humongous, beautiful door shutting so that I could pause and be still and take stock of who are you, Rachel? What do you want? What's your true intention in this world? And it was just like sobbing tears of gratitude. Thank you, thank you for stopping me. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

So I did reach a point then of deep appreciation and enoughness, and that lasted about a year and I had my daughter and it was beautiful, and then I just put an Instagram post up about this. The stillness allowed, and like the rest allowed that natural fire to come back, and it then was an organic wanting more. It wasn't a needing more from an ego place. It was like, oh wait a second, I have more to share. I just birthed a human, I just went through a whole

dark knight of the soul. I have so much to share with the world again, and now I want more, but from such a place of love, like I want to share and more because I have more love to give, you know, like I don't need more fame. I just want to share more truth and love. And that's when you know you're doing it from the right place. And I feel like, especially during the pandemic, it's hard to stay creative when every day feels like it's groundhog Day. Um dude, yeah, I'm in a creative at myself. Do

you have any advice because it's a struggle. Well, I don't. I I was too, and then I went through a huge creative surge and now it dried up again, so I'm totally understand. I think my biggest advice is that artists in general were like volcanoes. People think that we're unstable, but actually the volcano is the most stable force in the world. In order to you know, birth all that lavea, you have to be so stable. So we are screative.

People are stable, but we have to remember that the creativity comes in these gigantic like and then it dries up and that's just the way it goes. That's just the way than the rhythm of a volcano. And kind of the acceptance again, the acceptance of what is is what my meditation practice has taught me too, is like it sucks, but when you're like, Okay, I guess it's just isn't my creative period? And then yeah, just kind

of the compassion for yourself, like this hurts. It hurts an artist when you don't get to be in the creative It feels incredible to be the volcano erupting. It really is painful when it dries up. So the compassion for yourself and then I think my other piece of advice to get the creativity going again is to just at least what I do. Maybe you'll tell me what you do, But I just soak up all of life, like through podcasts, music, movies, books, I read tons of books, walks, nature, hikes,

the ocean. I just let all of life kind of whisper to me and I just take it easy. I've had to do this recently. I just like literally stop forcing the faucet. I stopped trying to like stop trying to write just like quieted down journal, be still, and then let it bubble it back up again organically. That's what I'm hoping happens with me. Um it's hard, though, Well that that's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping it that was it, you know what I mean? Like, what if

that was it and there's no more creativity? Oh my god. I talked about the therapist. I talk about this all the time. It's like, that is our biggest fear. That's all creative people biggest fear. When it tries up. You're like, well, that was that? Was it? How I enjoyed there? Right? Yeah? Yeah, it's not, though I can tell you even though I had that fear literally last week. It's not. Though we know better. I mean I've lived a little longer, so I can tell you I have more experience with the

comings and goings of how it interrupts. But um, it never is. It's never the end. You'll always you'll have more, and oh my god, Sam, You're gonna have so much more. And any artists listening, there's so much more to come. You just have to we have to be patient with ourselves and come. It's hard, I know, it's perseverance. I I think when you wrote fight song, because it's such

a beautiful song. I know you've heard that a million times, but when you've when you wrote that, you know it came from such an honest place of like do you persevere in this moment in time? How do you continue fighting? How did you end up writing that song? Thank you so much. I was at a moment of really being kicked down and like thinking, dude, this is really getting

pathetic that I'm still trying to make music. I'm like I was thirty one or something at the time, or thirty two, and I've been trying for like you said, like twelve years and without any success, and it was just painful, and um, I was coming to a moment of like I really need to face reality, probably like my friends. But what made you doubt that if you were going for so long? Was it like a run out of theme or was there a certain moment. I

think my publisher called me I was Sony ATV. That was like a blessing that I had gotten signed got a publishing deal, So that was like one you know, I had little markers throughout the ten years or was that kept me going like, okay, I have a publishing deal. Now, Okay, I got this tour, Okay, I have a little song on the radio, like I had a manager at that point that was It's tough because in some ways it was such a blessing and he was incredible for my

for my art. But the other time, it was a little emotionally tough, you know he was it wasn't the most emotionally healthy relationship, and um, it wasn't like he wasn't using the best tactics to encourage someone. And so I think it was just wearing me down, like the way that he was kind of giving me attention and then withdrawing it, like an honestly unhealthy relationship. Relations but

it was manifesting in my manager relationship. And I think the rejection of that, of feeling like, oh I suck what might have been the thing that finally made me feel like I can't do this. So anyway, I reached that point of just like And I also think my father and my I know we were talking about our dads. I think my dad, who was such a believer, okay I should write all that back, maybe not such a believer, but loved me so much and was like, if that's

what raised Rachel happy. Um even they my parents were kind of like, what are you doing, Like, honey, what are you doing? And that's hard here, oh so painful. I got this. Um my grandfather passed away, had passed away right around that time, and I remember I was praying or manifesting or some some kind of version of that I needed money for this recording, like I needed money. So I was totally broken. Um, I needed this exact amount of money to give to a producer to try

to produce fight song. Actually, and I my grandfather pressed away, and my dad called me and he's like, and we didn't. He didn't. My grandfather wasn't like a rich man. It was a little He lived in a tiny little house. My dad called me and he said, you're never gonna believe this, but your grandfather left you the exact amount of money. And that was the sign from God like okay, okay, okay, like I'm supposed to keep going. And that money was the first production I used for fight Song. I skipped

how I wrote it though, I'm so sorry. Sure I'll hear that. Yeah, well I just okay. So I was driving in mal Malibu, I think I was on the way to a session and my publisher called me and she said to me, you have been doing everything but telling your story and these songs you're sending. You've been sending me songs for years, for like four years. You have not told me exactly your story. You have said all these other things and danced around it. Tell me

your truth. Who are you like? What has kept your little fire going? And I was so frustrated because at that point, I was like like every artist, I was like, I have told my story. And I got to this session and I just was so frustrated and angry and like and I just got to that piano, and all of that passion in the years of I don't know, it just came out. It came pouring out that chorus, and the co writer, Dave, he just sat there kind

of like, yeah, keep going that. But then that song took me quite a while longer to finish that I didn't. I had to get the verses. It took the sorry excuse me, I had to write like ten more versions of the verses until I got it right. So it's another story about patients in itself. But um, that's where it came from Wow and Now You Soldiers, which is such a beautiful song too. I feel like that's also.

I feel like your music has been so authentic and honest, which is it's so important because it makes people feel this alone, and I love that you're doing that. Okay, we had to take one more quick break, but when way I come back, I'd love to talk to you about something else. You're super passionate about manifesting, and I love to have you walk us through a little exercise around manifestation and meditation if you don't mind that, and a lot more right after that, and we're back. Now

you're really big on manifesting. I'm trying to get into it. What advice do you have? What? Okay, let's talk about it because I'm just getting back into it too, and I did a lot back then. I was like, humongous. Do you like wholeheartedly believe in it? Oh my god, I will tell you some tips. I will tell you guys whatever you want to know about ladies and gentlemen. Yo.

It is really it's real. And but the part of it that is really important to know is that, yes, you can manifest anything you want, but you have to be careful, because I think really important is to not just try to manifest things that you want, but peace and happiness and joy and the feeling, because what you think might make you happy and full of peace and joy might not. As it happened for me, I was got everything, every single thing I wanted to, except for

one thing that I think is still coming. But um, every think coming on this like twenty twenty thing list of wild things, things I had no business thinking could be mine. I was like, you know, thirty one, broke no reason to believe that I would be successful. And I have manifested selling millions of records, being on a tour bus, being presented with plaques, seeing thousands and thousands of people singing my song with like their fists in

the air. And I would do these techniques and I'll share one with you right now if you'd like, let's please, Okay. So one of the most important parts about manifesting is how viscerally you have to feel it. It can't just be thinking it. We have to get out of our heads with it. So you're not just thinking what you want. You have to feel what you want. You have to feel, you have to taste it. You have to see it, smell it, here it and most imporant, you have to

feel it in your heart. Feel the feeling that is the most That is the biggest secret. That's it. Okay. So for instance, um, everyone can do this at home. Is there something I want you to think of, something that you really want right now? You don't have to tell me. Yeah, okay. And I want you to close your eyes, and I want you to take a deep breath,

and I want you to ground into the earth. Just imagine roots going from the bottom of your feet down through the dirt, soil, rock, into the center of the earth. And imagine golden light from the center of the earth coming back up through the bottoms of your feet. They're your calves, knees, thighs hips, stomach. It's golden light filling your body, filling your chest, your shoulders, down your arms to your fingertips, golden light up through your neck, your jaw,

just relaxing as you go. It's deep bones, your nose, your eyes, your hair, the strands of your hair, your skull. Just feeling your whole body flooded with golden light. Take another deep breath, Okay, I want you to imagine that thing that you most most want in the world right now, and I want you to get a picture of it, not just what it looks like, but what it feels like. What would it feel like if you had that thing right now? How would your heart feel? Would you feel excited?

Would you feel giddy? Would you feel like you wanted to burst out and screaming and dance around the room like? Would you feel like you want to hug someone like you want to celebrate? What calls would you make? What kind of basis would you be kind of feeling? Would you be on your face? And then I want you to get even deeper with the visilation. What would it look like around you if that thing came true? What would the air feel like? What would what would be

physically in your presence? What kind of messages would you see? Would you seeing on your phone? What kind of things if it's maybe a dream of performing on a stage, would you see that microphone? Which you can you see those people in front of you, really see them? And then what kind of smells would you be smelling at that time make it so real? What sounds would you be hearing would you be hearing massive applause? Here that applause,

really hear it. And then I want you to put all that together at once in one big burst out to the universe. So right now you're going to imagine what would it feel like, Feel that feeling in your heart of pure joy fulfillment. What would it sound like here here, whatever the sounds would be, What would it smell like, what would it taste like, what would it look like? And just feel it like every five of your being exploding from your heart into the universe like

one big cosmic wish. Take a deep breath and in the exhale, I want you to burst it out, radiate that out. Okay, now I need to land back in your body. Feel the floor beneath your feet, feel a close on your body, blacks your jaw, blacks your shoulders, feel the air through your nostrils and out. And now this is the most important part of manifestation, is the absolute faith that you have done your part. You have done what you needed to do. You did your work today.

Now it is up to the universe to deliver you, like magic, what you put out there. And your job is to have absolute faith that you've done your part. And now the last step is the peace and the joy knowing that it's already yours. It doesn't even matter if it comes or not, because you already felt the feeling of what it feels like. So you can just relax with it. You can be easy with the whole thing. The dream can have a lighter touch because you already

felt like what it felt like. And that's the whole point of getting your dream. Anyway. Can you read a book? Oh you have? I have any children's book? By the way, how did you what was the inspiration for the children's book? How was that experience for you? By the way that I'm like, I felt it? You did? You? Like? Should have? Like? Um? When of those meditation apps? Just like, why do you have a podcast? I don't know? Is it hard? No, you can do it. I'm busy. I don't know. I'm

kind of tired momm ng to record here? Meditations? Are you kidding? Maybe I should? Okay, I'll tell my manager. I'm I don't really. I share them often with like session, you know, people when I'm in session, or I share them with friends, or but I haven't really done it publicly. It was really fun to get to do that. Maybe I will. I mean, I think it's way to connect with people. That's true, and it's something that I'm really

passionate about clearly. Yeah. Okay, so my children's book. Yeah, I released it last year right in the beginning of the pandemic. It was so special and also scary to release it then. I mean it wasn't like it wasn't an album, so there wasn't so much pressure, but it still felt like, oh wait, this is a baby of mine and my giving it the best chance to succeed. If I can't go out and promote it, yeah, I get that, but I'm so proud of it. I love it.

I actually have one right here. Can I see anything? Yes, this is one of my goals. One of my goals is trying. It's going to write a children Oh you should, you will, I'll send you one. Please do yes, because I'm looking for inspiration. Oh, it's really fun. It's a whole process and learning about m H. I am just so happy that you are my finale in my podcast, my season two final water so I manifested season three that we're gonna get picked up. Yes, it's yours. No,

it's yours. It's done, it is, it's already as it is you know, and so it is. That's that's your belief. Now your season three will get picked up. I like that, and keep doing that little visualization and keep listening to that meditation. I'm just going to replay your audio. Do it. There's also one there's also on YouTube, tongue of different. My voice might not be like that. No, I like

your voice. What are you talking about? But I mean for anyone listening, we all have our own tastes and like what five of us, So maybe you listen to it and you're like, well, that was really a cool process. But like I would really like to hear an Australian guy saying it you can find it or like you know, YouTube, you can on YouTube. And I also feel like it's so important with this industry and mentorship and just having

like women to have your backs. I'm so glad that you're on my podcast because I feel like, my god, I love getting to know you. You're so cool. I believe in you. Thank you. That means a lot, it really does. Do I didn't mean to interrupt you, so no, you didn't know, but it's I think we should all if you're you're listening to this episode and you just want advice, We're here. Reach out here exactly. Yeah, reach out to me on Instagram. The one thing I am

really good at is responding to messages. I love hearing from people. I'm also doing some TikTok's lately, although I've taken the hiatus. It's a TikTok star Nope, but she's she's learning books. Rachel, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. I'm so glad that we got to do this. You're so welcome it with so much fun. Thank you for having me as an honor. You're so inspiring. Thank you so are you. Thank you guys so much for listening to the season too finale of my podcast.

I still can't believe that. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Rachel again, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. If you haven't already, subscribe and follow me on Instagram and it's Sammy J. That's I T S S A M M Y J A y E. And don't forget to follow Rachel and all of her socials. It's Rachel Platton again. Thank you for sticking along with me for two seasons, hopefully too many more. I will see you guys, next time, Bye,