Featuring Olivia Sanabia

my guest. Now you may know her from Amazon's Just Said Magic or Disney Channel's Cooping Cammy, but she is genuinely one of the most talented, hardworking and driven people I know. And I love this episode and I hope you do too. Yeah, Olivia, this is super exciting. Okay, everybody the Olivia Sonavia is this week's my podcast. Hi guys, I'm so honored to be here. Okay, can I tell

you why this is so crazy? The first time we met was not to let people know I met Olivia and I was interviewing around a red carpet for Beauty can in l a team and we found this video a few months ago, and the first time we met we shook hands when so, why did we shake hands? It was awkward. It was awkward professionals. Yeah, but it's just weird because I've never we Olivia and I have become very close friends since we've developed a friendship, which

was kind of out of nowhere. It was, it was out of nowhere, but I think it's so awesome and now here we are. We're here. I'm so excited to be here. You guys, I'm such a fan of Let's be real, and I'm honored to be here today. Olivia has been one of the only people in my life, one of my friends besides like my family, that has truly supported me through this. I remember when I was working on the pitch deck for the podcast. I told

her when I got the pilot. I remember we were walking around the growth and I was even one of the people because you get it, you get how much work goes into it, and I've just always really appreciated that and just our friendship. It's we are. We are friendship. I'd say we were friends, but I think the pandemic a little bit. It brought us together. Did we faced the FaceTime? Yeah, We've had a long distance friendship mainly

over FaceTime. Yeah, I mean we've lived on separate sides of the country for as the majority of our friendship, and m it's just crazy that it's become such a close friendship because we've seen each other like not as many times to equal how close we are Max ten times if that? Oh yeah Max, Maybe I know. Isn't that sad? That's weird and only thinking about that, But we faced time more than I've ever FaceTime to anybody else in my life. Really, yes, we faced them at

least if it goes two weeks, that's a lot. That's like, that's true. You brought me out of my my shell because like before our friendship, I didn't like FaceTime. I like to have like photos and yes, totally. I was always like, no, I don't like FaceTime. It's weird, it feels awkward. Until you really brought me out of my shell and I was like, you know what, I just

got an amazing friendship over FaceTime. I love that. I remember, so I interviewed Beauty con l A. It was I don't know, we need to find that interview that'd be so funny to watch. But then I remember I was doing a piece for Radio Disney and you were around the Disney show Coop and Cammy UM, and I was doing like a behind the scenes and it was a few days later, and I remember you remembered me from the interview and we exchange numbers and then I complimented

your camera and remember they did I remember that. And then I remember a few months later I found out you're in New York and I d M D randomly. I was like, hey, like, I want to see a Broadway show. You saw Mean Girls, and it was amazing. You got dinner, I know, And that's how I think it all started. And we barely knew each other. I was out in New York and um, when Sammy reached out,

I was like, oh my gosh. I was really nervous to reach out because it was when I was in high school's right when I was going through all that ship that was terrible, and I was like, Okay, let me try and just put myself out there and meet some new people. And I remember Damn and he was like, Okay, we'll see what happens, right, And I at the time like I needed some more friendships in my life. And so when you reached out, honestly, I was so excited.

And you know, when you're on vacation somewhere you don't like or I guess it was maybe more of a work trip you don't expect to, like, I don't know, hang out with people that you don't don't know there. But we had so much fun. We hit it off that night. I feel like weird. That was our first Like I remember you coming in the restaurant because we got dinner before, and it was just like we've known each other for a really long time, and I remember us both being like, wait, this is a little odd,

how comfortable this is. It was a little weird because, like you said, we had only met each other in a work setting two times before and they were very short. Yeah, isn't that crazy. It's so weird. We kind of friendship development story ever, and then we have what three years now. Yeah, I think, so that's crazy. I remember when I saw you, um, because, like I said, I was on set. It was so interesting to see your work ethic and see how set's going.

What people don't realize like Disney especially, it's very glamorized, but it's a set is a lot of hurry up and wait, which is yes, people don't talk about right, And I think when you're it's more waiting when you're an adult, but when you're a kid, it's a lot of um school work. You know, I was still um in school. I mean I'm eighteen now, but I was still in school when when I was filming Coop and CAMMI. So you're not working, you're doing school in the classroom.

So I know it's crazy, but um, I think that's like the question people always have is like, how do you balance school and work life? You have to, like you have completely, So what would you say a average day on set was like for you? Well, we kind of had a weekly schedule because it was a multi cam show, so that is kind of like a set

schedule every week. So Monday we had a table read in school, and then Tuesday we rehearsed all day and did school, and then Wednesday we rehearsed again, and we had what's called the network run through, where we would do the whole show as like a play for the network, and they would come and do notes and make revisions, and then Thursday and Friday we would film and we didn't get much school work done on Thursday and Friday, we banked it all on the three days beforehand, so

that's crazy to think of your schedule. What was that like? Do you feel like, because I know we've talked about this, I've always felt older than my actual age and I know you have to, but what have you ever felt any resentment from not being able to have that whatever the normal experience is or is it you just you just kind of like me where it's like I've always kind of not really jived with that. Oh my gosh, exactly. I think that's why we get along so well, is

because we have that in common. I've always felt a lot older than I am. I've a aways felt like an adult trapped inside a kid's body. Um. I think I never had any resentment towards not having like a typical childhood or going to regular school. I, to be honest, never really desired it. Yeah, I didn't love it. I went to public school and I didn't love it. That's being so honest, And UM, I think certain things. I just I was never sad about not having a problem

or not having a regular graduation or those things. I in my own head, I was. I realized that I was having just different experiences. I didn't feel like I was losing out on anything. I was just having a different experience. You're having so many life experience to right, and it is an adult world, an adult business. So I'm glad that I've kind of felt like an old soul on my life because it kind of prepared me

for being in an adult business. But no, I honestly I'm so happy with like not having that true additional childhood. I don't feel like I missed out. And you know, it's really interesting because in our friendship, we don't really talk about work really. We just talk about whatever. We talk about everything. Um, but how long have you been working for I became an actress when I was seven

years old, so I've been in this business for eleven years. Okay, so from seven to eleven, what were you working on? Wizardes Show appearances, commercials, auditions, that kind of stuff. Yeah, I just kind of when I was seven, which is like such a little little age. Um, I just hit the ground running with like commercials, and I trained. I was really adamant about training. I still am. I think like the best thing anybody can do as an actor is trained, like know your stuff, no your craft, fall

in love with your craft. You know, you gotta love it, you don't want to just and we're in such an time where so many people are going into acting without the love of it, but just as a money grab in a way that it's very refreshing to see you. You hustle, you really do because you love your craft. Thank you. I love my craft. I love acting, and I think I fell in love with it through studying and working with different acting coaches and and being in

class consistently. That's how I fell in love with it. And that's what gave me the ability to be resilient through the rejection of this business. Um, because I love it so much. I love it. It's I mean, it's my passion. I couldn't do life without it, So I think you really have to love it. And um, I was grateful for that time of doing commercials and auditioning a ton when I was like, like you said, seven to eleven, and making coast our guests, our appearances and

training and that that's what I was doing. And then when just that magic happened, life was completely different. Just how magic happened. I started filming it when I was eleven, okay, eleven fift I think, Yeah, what about acting? Do you love? I always think about this, and I think it's living through other people. Like, as humans, we get one life

and we only get to live through our eyes. And I think in acting, I get to live through the len of so many different people and have I feel like I have different life experiences through the characters I've lived through. Honestly, Wow, that's awesome. Thanks. And to affect people. I used to go into the movie theater and just be so deeply affected by movies. I mean I still am,

but even as a kid. Like the reason I became an actress is because I went to the movie theater and I saw a movie called Ramona, and I talked about remember when she ran away? Oh my gosh, of course I did. I cried traumatizing that song, the Taylor Swift song that adn't Nolla. When she's walking up the hill by herself. It's hard, I know, and she brings her mom puts the bowling ball in her backpack because she doesn't want her to leave, and she knows it's

going to get too heavy for her to carry. Yeah, I know this movie back my head. Yeah, And I think I was so deeply affected by everything I watched and I was just I just wanted to make people feel And that's those are the two things about acting that I love so much. And then you later when you in your acting career, you fall in love with a set environment and working with the crew, But first you have to love acting because it's the bones of

the career, you know. Yeah, would you say we are in such a divisive world right now where it feels like there's more hate than love. Do you think by being an actor and getting to go into different characters has made you more of an empathetic person? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely. I think it teaches you um to be a lot

less judgmental, you know what I mean. I think when you do so much research about a character like I've I've done, you know a lot of research, whether it's for auditions or for roles on you know, different subjects, um like different diseases and things like that that the character might have. And I think it just teaches you that everybody has a different story to tell and that everybody struggles. And yeah, absolutely, it makes me more empathetic. I think you kind of have to be if you're

going to be an actor. But that's also great tool that you have just in life now, to be able to see something on the surface and then kind of real evaluate like, is this all there is to it? Or is it a deeper issue? Oh yeah, totally. Because we only see people we know, We only see the life that they choose to show us. So I think when you get to dive deep into a character, you get to see all the stuff that you only know

of yourself. You know, all the private moments and all the things they say to themselves, And when you dive into a character, you have to see all of that. What how they interact with other people, how they interact with when they're by themselves, you know what I mean? Yeah, what would you say? I think we've talked about on the podcast a lot, the highlight reel of social media, Yes, um, and I know you know how it's affected me a lot and how I've had to just delete the app

Oh yeah, quite so many times. What would you say The biggest misconception about you is, oh, my gosh, Sammy with the hard hitting flue. Okay, I think, on a lighter note, I think I'm a lot goofier then people see. I mean, I think I'm funnier than people see. I agree with that. I really didn't. I don't know. No, I agree with that. I absolutely like, Oh I'm funny, but no, I just mean that. I think I'm a little more relaxed. I'm super chill, you know what I mean.

I'm very reserved. I'm not. I feel like I know a misconception about you that people go for it, and I want to know. So. I did not realize how big of a Twilight fan Olivia was. Um, I haven't seen the Twilight yet. I know we need to make that happen. We've been talking about it. I am honored that you've just given me a platform to discuss my Twilight addiction. I you're right, I do what people know about this. Um, I mean like I do post like on the anniversary of Winter. I can't say I do post. Um,

you know, the anniversary of when Twilight came out. Um, if anybody wants to know, I'm obviously team Edward. I've posted a couple of TikTok's. I do have Bella's engagement ring. Um that's like me, I that was. I think your obsession of Twilight is like similar to my obsession with high school musical like I see the Team Troy necklace. Of course. Oh I always wanted that, right, Oh my goodness, if Zach put it on me, yeah, that was that was what I really wanted. But I mean, when't the necklace?

Was there some because I haven't seen the movies, was there some equivalent that Edward did that you would want Patterson to do? Um? I, oh gosh, I mean there's so much I I know, you know what I mean, Like vampires. Well, no, I see, this is when I wish that you've seen the movies with me, Sammy, because the whole premis is that he's reluctant to bite her. He doesn't want to change her into a vampire. And yeah, so I think I love all the quotes from I

love all the quotes from the movies. Um like and so the line fell in love with the lamb, like yeah, all all, there's how much good stuff? And then there's like this thing about Spider Monkey and there's a lot of good things. Are all foreign things. We really need to make it happen, like wee like a movie marathon. Yeah, I'll tell you now what My favorite. I bet people are going to agree my favorite is Breaking Dawn Part one. Okay, so that's the fourth movie you're in for the first

one we're going to watch or we must go chronologically. Okay, how many movies are there? There's five? Five? Yeah. I'm trying to think of like something I can share with you from the movies that I don't want to know. I want to be a surprise if they did, like a Twilight reboot. Oh, would you be into that? Or you're kind of sick of reboots? Because I feel like I'm a little sick of reboots. But if they asked you to be like Olivia, what do you want to

be in a Twilight? I mean, I get where you're coming from with the reboot thing, but no, I am. I would be in to do a Twilight all the way. Would you say that's your dream character? Yeah, that's like my funny dream one. Okay, what about like actual dream real dream ones? I guess. I mean I would love to play Juliette in some adaptation of Romeo and Juliette. You're obsessed with Shakespeare too, I forgot about that. I am.

The obsession is real. Yeah, you have a song called stars Cross I do very much so inspired by Romeo and Juliette. Yeah, I've seen basically every movie adaptation there is, really, Yes, you want to know. My favorite is of course, have you seen the Basil Arman one with Leonardo DiCaprio and Clare Dain's I might have? I might have in school? Actually, yeah, people make you watch in school. But I saw that

movie for school. Actually I was supposed to watch one of the versions, and I fell in love with it. Leonardo DiCaprio, he is my favorite actor. I think he's a genius. Yeah, I think he's a genius. I love him. Of course, Young Leo has my heart. I mean Young Leo's Young Leo, but like as an actor, he to me is a genius. Are you more of a visual person? Yes?

I think so. Yeah, because when I like study for tests before I take the test, and I'm studying and I look in a book, like in the textbook, I'll remember like the location of the paragraph of the word, but I won't remember every detail. I'll just remember that whatever information I'm looking for was near that location that sometimes like close you in. Do you have a photographic photographic memory? I think maybe, like a little little Your testo last night went well. It went well, guys. Olivia

is a sophomore in college, which I was not. She's just cranking through the classes. Thank you. Yeah, it was my um last psychology tests, so that was really a great feeling. I'm done with that. Okay, let's transition from psychology to mental health. But first we have to take a quick break, and when we come back, we'll talk more about that. I want to hear more of out your music, and I know you have some crazy right carpet stories, so let's get into those and so much more.

We'll be right back and we're back. Mental health can be especially tough for so many this time of year. How is your mental health? It's pretty good. Good, it's pretty good. This time of year is really good for me. You love this time of year, so I do. I do, honestly, Like there's just something inside me that like gets an immense amount of joy from it just being the holiday to remember in August. You're like, I'm so exciting. Slow down. I know, yeah, I know. Basically, I just try and

get through Thanksgiving and Halloween. I'm just kidding. I love those two, but the goal of the year is to get to Christmas. Okay, what about after Christmas? After Christmas. I love a new year. I love a fresh start, and your Valentine's Day always makes me a little depressed because every year I'm like, oh, maybe next year, and then it just comes around. We're young, we're young. We can be each other's exactly exactly we need to do our holiday. Um, I know, every stop it Okay, min

hasn't come yet. It's ordered though, so I will ship into your house. But every like, for the past two years, Olivia and I have been doing this gift swap where we send each other like holiday presents, and it's so much fun. I love getting creative with it. I know last year because I mean we obviously weren't together, so we send each other these like boxes. You decorated it. It was so fun. I had so much fun putting

it together. I know. I have written notes when every I haven't told you Va Silvia over face time for like the past eight months. Anytime you say something, I write it down on my notes section. I do this for like people close in my life, so I like remember these things so that for the gift I can kind of put it together these like well things you've said in the path. That's genius. Yes, I think I remember you did that because Sammy is an excellent gift giver.

That's like a little fun fact people don't really know. Excellent, like so good. Last year you were telling me everything you were getting for your family, and I was amazed. Didn't I tell you to get your sibling um to adopt the yes or to get the star yes or no? You told me to get them um to adopt like an animal online to Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. That was like that was a good idea on my part. It was a great idea and I totally ended up using it. I mean, guys, Sammy for your gift giving needs.

You know what I say, Olivia should make a cookbook and I do a gift guy gift book and then we can bundle it. That sounds great. Yeah, okay, a cookbook slash gift giving guide, like all in one book. Is this like a perfect idea? I think it is. You can self published on Amazon. Let's do it. I mean, I'm something that has It's so weird to me that it's almost two. It's like we're coming to the end of season three. I know, guys, I'm such a fan. It hasn't been an amazing season. Oh, honestly, this has

been my favorite season. I loved him all, but this has been my favorite. Really. Yes, Olivia has been one of the o G listeners o G, but like I have been sometimes it can be very overwhelming to do the podcast while being in school, and um, Olivia has just always like whenever I get stressed, she's just like she says, no, like you're doing it, like you're doing a great job. And your support has just always literally

meant so much. Same. Thank you, Sammy. I mean, Sammy is maybe the most supportive person that I've ever met, Like she's always cheering me on and the definitely I always say that Sammy is the definition of a true friend. So I'm like, I love our friendship. Came one of the most random place too, it did. Is this your first podcast? Um, I think it might be podcastsh my der debut. What's the question you've never been asked before

that you're like, Oh, I wish someone would ask me this. Um, oh my gosh, I don't know, because I was I was doing By the way, it's very weird to do

research on your friend. I like, I was like, I was like, I was trying to be prepared but then I was like, you know what, I don't really know if I can how much I can do this, because it's weird because I know you personally, and it's very interesting to see the way like the media, like I see you've done these interviews, it's very much these surface level like how's it going, and you know, talk about this,

and very much surface level stuff. Do you ever wish you when during those conversations people would I don't want to say, treat you more human, but ask more questions that weren't just about promoting a project. Yes, I mean I totally understand to where people are coming. Of course, it's a business right, of course, but as a human Yes, I think when I listened to your podcast, it does feel so human and so authentic that it makes me, um more aware of the way I answer questions, more

aware of less media trained. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean there is a time and of place for that, of course, but um, I think your approach to your podcast is so real and um, true to yourself and honest and um honestly, it's given me a new perspective on the way you interview people, the way people respond to you when you interview them, Like I feel like you have this way of opening people up just naturally. It's true,

like it's also conversational. And that's why I always tell Samy is she has such a gift for it, and it's just you feel relaxed when you're with her, because interviews are scary sometimes when I'm on the few times I've been on the other side, I feel weird, just like you don't have control over what people are saying. Totally. I've been asked some weird questions before. That's the weirdest question you've been asked. I think I may have told you this once before. I was on a red carpet

and like it made sense kind of. But I was asked, if you were to have a Dina dinosaur rock star, what would be its name? M hmm, it was. It was at a premiere. Was it like a dinosaur move? It was? It was. But and I honestly I came up with the worst spot was I think everybody my brain just I could I couldn't think at all. I was like, well, what would be a dinosaur rock star name? And I think I said like t Rex Sauna or something like to do a play on Riona. I have

no idea. I was also like or Nirvana. It could have been Nirvana. Yeah right, I could have gone either way, right, So true? Interesting? Yeah, isn't that a weird question? What is it like being on a carpet? Because I used to cover them for Radio Disney and they were so overwhelming just being there. And I can't imagine on the other side, because it looks very glamorous when you see the Instagram photos, but it's kind of chaos, and I don't think people A lot of people realize that, Oh

it's so chaotic. I think, is it not stressful? It is stressful sometimes. I think if you're feeling great and you feel your best, and you feel it, you look your best, it's fun. I think if you can get out there and just like have a good time with it, then it's fun. But other times it gets super chaotic and people yelling your name why and weird interview questions like that one that makes you think I have to think really hard. But for the most for the most part,

I really enjoy it. I think if you do too many in a row, it gets exhausting. But I don't want to take it for granted because it's so fun. There's one dress she wore one specific time that I always tell her it was, I think it's the dumb broke, the dumbbo premiere dress. Thank you. I remember when I saw that. I was that one I love you popped off. Thank you, No, I do. I did love that. For those who know, it was like a it was like

a ballgown. It was. It was a bawn ballgown that like went to like a little below my knee, so it went out far, but it didn't go to like the floor. It was very poofy. It was very very poofy. But that was the coolest premiere ever. I saw Angelina Jolie, yes she was movie fan girled over. Oh her for sure because she she pulled over. Um, she pulled aside one of my cast mates from Cooping Cammy and told him that their family watches our show. Isn't that the

craziest thing ever? I freaked out. I freaked out, and um, that was a fan girl moment. I met Tory Kelly on the red carpet and started crying, and I don't do that. And I think it's just overwhelmed because she's been such a light in my life and her music really speaks to me that feeling all too right. It just I was like, are these tears coming from It's

it's like you can't help it. And you know, like when you're in the industry, like I don't get fan grilled over often because like everyone's human, you know, right, But like there's i'd say three people that I would actually possibly lose my ship over Lynn Well of course talked about multiple timesting and Oprah Oh great, Like I know they're so, I know they're human, but they're so those are like answers to who would you want to have lunch with? Um? Like dead or alive? That kind

of that's good. Those are good names. It's just I think I don't think. I don't know if I fan girl over them, but more so over their brilliance of course, of course, and what they've done exactly. Yeah, I get that. Something that I really want to talk about it is if you has the most beautiful voice, Oh my gosh, covers on TikTok and a'll texts will be like supportive friends, Sammy always cheering me on no, but every time my

mind is just blown. Like I know you a beautiful voice, but it's just like you said you did eleanor Rigby, and I was like, oh my goodness, thank you. She popped off. Thank you so much. What are your thoughts on TikTok, because I do you want some really interesting Yes. So I haven't been on TikTok much and I know that you thank you. It's I know I shouldn't be proud of that, but I thinks something to be proud of. My time span has gotten time attention span has increased

so much. Watching YouTube videos when I was on TikTok felt too long. Yes, and ever since I've been off, I can like, my attention span is so much longer. Ever since you've been off average, I've been off TikTok. Yeah, it's really bad. It's really bad for the attention span. I know, I find myself like not being able to sit through certain things. Now I'm like, oh, I need to retrain my mind. It's really rough. I saw this.

Olivia knows I'm obsessed with the news, um, but I saw this thing where the CEO of Instagram was asked questions because you know, studies came out about how Instagram can be like negative effect at teen girls mental health and body image, and there definitely should be legislation. I don't know if you saw the social dilemma, um, but it's very interesting, especially like on a large scale because

you have a pretty substantial amount of followers. How have you navigated that with also staying present, insane and not compare yourself because it's so easy to like we said, people just post to highlight reeo. Oh my gosh. It's really tough. I definitely struggle through that of trying not to compare, and I think, um, gratitude is the best way to combat comparison. But I mean that doesn't always happen. But yeah, it's hard. It's hard. Yeah, it's a daily

thing that you constantly have to remind yourself. You have to consistently say, hey, you know what I'm gonna try and um just be grateful for what I have and try not to compare. But like I said, like that doesn't always. Um. Sometimes, no, when it's hard, and you have to consistently try and do that. But I think also a great way to um not deal with those things or to kind of lessen the pain is to try and get off of it. I know it's hard to believe me, I'm on it all the time more

than I should be. But um, I think that's one guaranteed way to kind of get rid of those pressures, UM, is to try and do other things. And I when I found other hobbies and dove further into my work, I feel better, you know what I mean, more assured within yourself for sure. Yeah. And I think gratitude also means reminding yourself of like positive affirmations about yourself, like hey, I'm grateful that I do this, and I'm kind to people or whatever, you know, those kind of things. Yeah,

I've been trying to work on that. I mean, I was showing her, I know what you're about to say. Last night. We were phase timing and I showed her UM the final project I did for my class that I directed. UM and Olivia gave me a very nice compliment and I immediately rejected it. She shut me down. And you're like, we mean to go this well, but like, I feel like it's not just you. Everybody struggles with

trying to be proud of their own work. And you work so hard and I can clearly see that you should be proud, But of course when it comes to talking about yourself, I think we're all our own worst critic. Yes, like,

I can be so mean to myself. It's so bad, and I've been trying so hard to not um and I feel like, I don't know, I feel like that's not talked about because I go through these things of I was talking to my cousin about this a few months back, and I was saying, how like I am my biggest obstacle, and he said something that kind of really intrigued me. He said, well, that's kind of nice that you know how to overcome you and if that's

your biggest obstacle, then you can do that. And I was like, you're right, because I have the power to change that totally takes work. It takes a lot of

daily work. Yeah yeah, but you know it's when even if you're mean to yourself, it's letting that go and just being easier with yourself because at the end of the day where all we have absolutely I'm definitely my own worst critic, and and there's almost like some kind of relief in that sometimes where if I'm if I'm happy with something I've done, then I know that I should be proud of that because I think when you put yourself um, you give yourself such such high expectations

and standards. When I finally am happy with something I've done or worked on, I'm like, dang, that took a lot of work to get there, right, even I'm proud of myself, Dang, that's kind of like my barometer of of that I worked really hard for that. Does that make sense? Like, Okay, do you know what's really interesting? I'm just like kind of analyzing our friendship right now.

And any time we try and like talk about the other person, we both try and like no, no, you like no, no, You're like I'm like telling about this, You're like no, but let me hear about you first. I mean, like, don't want to talk about ourselves. So we really do that quite a lot. We need to work on that, we do. We do. I feel like we've gotten better since the beginning of Yeah, got to the point guys where it was like we like I couldn't even start the conversation because let's talk about you.

Like that still happens, it does, but not nearly as much. I feel like we're more comfortable just talking to each other ourselves more. Yeah, and what's and because we talk often, it's like it's not even that much to update each other because it's not superficial stuff exactly exactly, mostly just kidding. Okay, we have to take one more quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk about your new song, Evergreen, and your song from last year, The Train, one of

my favorites. I also want to talk more about you growing up in the business, our friendship, social media, and much more. Will be right back and we're back. I know it's how we to accept compliments, but I don't know, but you are truly such a hard worker and you inspire me and for people that I don't that don't know. Olivia released a beautiful song that she wrote herself called Evergreen, and last year short and release a beautiful song called

The Train, which I am obsessed with. And something that a lot of people don't know is not only did you write it, but you also made and edited the lyric video yourself. You have edited multiple things. You are people a lot for a lot of people. It's a big team that does things. Olivia does it herself. Um, and it is so inspiring because sometimes we can all get trapped in our own head thinking, well, I don't

have this, so I can't do it. But you are also a true definition of if you want to do something, just do it yourself. And that's really hard to do, to start something and put yourself out there. But I just want to say that, And I think your song Evergreen is so beautiful and I'm so proud of you for you did. You did the cover art, um, you did the lyric music video, and I just want to acknowledge that because you work so hard. Thank you. Oh my god, you're saying thank you. No, I I really,

I really do appreciate that. Like if I want to be, you know, one thing as an actor, aside from hopefully being a good actor, I want to be just hard working. So I really appreciate that. Um. Yeah, I think that's maybe a misconception as well. Like, yes, I'm an independent artist and I do most of it myself. I wrote the song, Um, I had an amazing producer who did who produced it for me Isaac, And yeah, you're right, it was a lot of work, but it's a lot of work that means a lot. Thank you. Sammy has

always been so supportive of my music. I sent her my new song Evergreen before it came out because she wanted to hear. It was like I was having a bad day and I was telling you about and You're like, you know what, I'm gonna send you this. You can't show anyone. Yeah, and Sammy knows. I'm like, super, she won't send anything, and yeah, she won't until like you're like, we were bold perfectionists. So unless it's like to our

standards correct, Yeah, yeah. If if I'm like, I don't know, I think a couple of things need to be changed, then I won't show it. But Sammy was in need of a little bit of distraction that day, so I was like, you know what, here we go. Here you go, take it, take it, take it. But um, that's really kind. Thank you, Sammy. I mean, this girl right here, Can I brag on you for a second? Okay, yes, I'm not going to get your permission. Um, I mean you

guys listen. You guys know what an incredible podcast this is. And I always say that Sammy is a visionary. I think she has such a view of how she can contribute to the world and how she can contribute to um people our age and helping them have a voice and helping stand up for people. I think she has such a clear vision of how to be an authentic person. Um, I just think she's incredible. She's an amazing friend. Anybody that is lucky enough to be her friend knows that.

And I'm just very grateful for you. She's incredible. Meanwhile, she's also a student and so okay, but like, you're incredible. I'm just I just this is what facetimes are. Like time we'll try and complim each other and just like stop, you know I'm complimenting you now. Yeah, that's basically the conversations we've talked about this. But just like being in a young person in the industry especially that's so male dominated,

it's so hard to find like minded people. And I'm so beyond grateful because our friendship formed so naturally, it

wasn't forced. Um and I feel like we've also just been there for each other in a weird way, even if it's just over FaceTime and we have like not the same career, but we understand what the other person is doing and going through, and because they are so similar, that's been super helpful, I will say, because not a lot of people know the process of pitching a show, of hoping to get renewed, to do you know, to do all of that, waiting to here on the next season,

waiting to here in the next season, for each episode. And I think you've been a very good person for me to talk to because you've always it's very easy to lose sight of how hard it is, um, and I just very much appreciate how much you've just been like, this is an accomplishment you need to recognize. Yeah, and celebrating. I think we always remind each other, like, hey, this is actually an incredible thing. I think you're caught up

in the moment. You don't realize that this is awesome. Yeah, definitely, like celebrate yourself. I think we both do good at reminding each other of that, Like this is actually a big deal. I know you're caught up in the moment and it all might be stressful, but like celebrate this. Yeah, right, and we got each other, We got each other. Just love fest right here. I know, Olivia, I okay, First of all, make sure you follow Olivia on social media.

Make sure you follow Sammy as well. She has great content, gorgeous gorgeous content. That's the thing I've been trying. I go back and forth. I'm sometimes I'm like I should post, and othertimes I'm like, I can't. It's the struggle. It's so an ongoing struggle, I know, because you're thinking it as a business. Of course, at the same time we're called teenage girls. Yeah, and it's also like interacting with

um friends and fans is so cool. So I think when I think about it through that lens, I'm like, oh, yeah, I do want to post. I do want to share things because um, I don't know, I just want to I want to use my platform. So it is that mix of like I don't want to post on social media, but which I totally get because social media is it you're start because you're not on Snapchat, I'm not. No, I think that is when you are so mentally clear.

I genuinely think. So I've only heard, you know, stories about snap scores and all that good stuff, and when people ask for my snapchat, Like, so, I remember I did like when we want some girls like I don't have a Snapchat. I was like, you thought it was so weird. No I didn't. I was like, this is kind of nice. I d like it cool. Yeah. Remember, I think like borrowed your phone to use the filters because back in the day when Snapchat filters were good, right,

didn't I remember the dog filter? Oh my gosh, yes, I just liked the Like, I feel like Snapchat is one of those, like the most unnecessary social media platforms, Like it just does more harm than good. I agree. Do you remember the flower crown filter? Remember the unicorn and when like you open your mouth like a rainbow tongue would come out. Yes, yes, that was this was like when it was actually like good, Yeah, we don't need Snapchat get often. You know, it's so true. There's

plenty of other social media platforms. Exactly. Sometimes I wish we lived in a world where there was no social media. Oh my gosh too, I feel like all the time, right, all the time, things were based on your talent instead of followers. Absolutely, OLIVI and I've talked about this, but I can't imagine how frustrating it is to not get role or should be considered because of a lack of followers. And it's not about talent when it should be about talent. Yeah, yeah,

that's tough. It is. It is. I know you know this, but like I understand it. I understand that this is a side, but um, you know, I think actors were just such fragile people. We can't deal with that. We're so sensitive as an artist, yes, the artist, Yes I can't do with that. No, I'm just kidding, but no, I think that Again, that's back to the craft thing, like you gotta love the craft enough for all that

to be worth it. Yeah, I feel that right. Um, if you're ever wondering what our conversations are, like, Um, this is it, this is it, this is it, this is our friendship in a nutshell. Um, go listen to Evergreen. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. And this year finally on the podcast, it's it's a time on my favorite season and now I'm a part of it. So I love that? Is it? Do I say, like I want to say, subscribe to your pod? Is that what

I say? Is that how you subscribe to a podcast? Yeah? Okay, everybody, subscribe to this podcast. Please you made it this far and leave a comment a green emoji for Evergreen. That's how we'll know you've made it through. Yeah, let's pick a specific one, like a green, like the green tree. How about a green tree and a green heart? Love it? Love it perfect. We're gonna know we're gonna know. Also if you do that, comment that both on our Instagram post,

and that's how we will also know. Yeah, I'd love to see that. We're kind of having a little secret code. Yeah yeah, I would apply to whatever comments. Yeah, me too, do it. We love this. Thank you for coming. Thank you so much, Sammy. It's such a pleasure. This was a long time in making. It was I'm glad I do. Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's episode of the Let's Be Real Podcast. I hope you enjoyed it. Olivia, I love you so dearly, and thank

you so much for coming on stream Evergreen. She's worked so hard on it, um and it's such an incredible song, and also listen to the train. Follow her on all her social media Instagram Olivia's Nabia TikTok, Olivia's nabia Um. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already, and follow me on Instagram at it Sammy J. That's I T S S A M M Y j A y E. And I will see you guys next week.