Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Less Bureau Podcast. I'm so excited because my dear friend Navia Robinson is here. Guys, I'm so excited to be here, my dear friend Sammy here obviously because it's your podcast. Really, this has been so long overdue. Yes, it totally has. We've been talking about this for ages, and I'm so glad to finally
be here. I was thinking about it and I met you in that sounds correct, And at that time I had just come back from the UK and I was filming a show and I am pretty certain I was speaking to you. And what was a British? Were British?
I was convince she was British. Guys. We were all like, I was my first big shoe and I worked with three Dio Disney and it was at the Sacks fifth Avenue, like rand opening, and I met Navia because we were we were the only kids there, yes, that were like interviewing, and then she was like British and my mom was there and my brother is there, and I remember us leaping be like what was her accent? Is she British? So funny to me. I remember quite a few things
from that night. Well, first of all, I want to say, I don't understand why I was talking in a British accent because I played an American character on that show. But I was also at a very impressionable age, and so I guess I just soaked up that accent. I probably liked it a lot, because you know, I was like loving it. Doesn't love a British accent, beautiful accent. And I'm sure my castmates were like this, go on, Um, I was there for three months, okay, but an impressionable age, Yes, exactly,
thank you so much. I'm helping you, trying to help me. Yeah. We also saw we bonded over seeing Neil Patrick. We were like, we're freaking out because yes, I just remember bonding over. I mean already. It was quite a strange circumstance because it's a very novel experience. We were at Sax Fifth Avenue working there for like the window unveiling. It was special and we were still they shut it down the store that day, and we were so young and it was so overwhelming and surrounded by adults too.
Of course, I was so scared because here you were, you know, you're you're an actress. You've been on TV. I this was coming up on my since my first real year like working with them, and I hadn't done anything like that before. You must have made quite the impression. This is you're one, you're two. If this was your year one, yeah, wow, and you're already that's incredible. I was just like, I still have stage fright in a way,
and particularly at that age. I think when I started, I was like five or six years old, so I had no fears and no insecurities. Yeah, you don't think about it. And then at eleven and then probably until like fifteen, I was just a mess. Do you still have stage right when you act? Yeah, a little bit. I'm getting rid of it because I think you literally have to in order to you know, be vulnerable or like unfold in front of the camera. You have to
like try to get rid of that anxiety. But as you get older and you develop more in securities and like whatever in your teenage years, it's it gets harder. I think being filmed during your teenagers while you're going through puberty is an experience that so few know. But the few people that I know, such as yourself, have gone through it. It seems like it's been a whirlwind. You're so good at this. I need to answer the question,
but I can't help. But um, well, yes, it's so weird, and maybe not want to watch the show I was a part of for that period of adolescence. But I think now literally every single person is going through it, maybe in a you know, just in a different way. We all have social media now, and kids have Snapchat and they'll broadcast that to their friends, and maybe it's inescapable for them too. So I feel for everyone. I think we're all going this really. I mean, in today's times,
it's just we're so exposed. What was it like growing up having so many eyes on you and the pressures of social media? With that, I know you're barely on social media. If we love, we stand, but you know what, mental health is a priority and I get that. So what was that like? Because I remember, for a minute, they're in like and you were really active and you
were I remember I ran into her. I remember I ran into Navia at Beauty Content was before we became like friends, and I remember she was just I was seeing her just always posting and just on the ground. I was like, how does this girl? Um? I love you. I feel like that was a different person. It's hard to even I mean, that's what you are at thirteen or whatever. You're just kind of like a sponge soaking up your environment, what's arounding, what other people are doing.
And so that really doesn't feel like me as much as it feels like a character that was like an amalgamation of the people around me. So that's kind of my answer on that. I don't know how I was doing, and I don't. I just don't think I had the self awareness at the time to like really be introspective. You know, maybe at that time I should have been like,
you know, you're learning. Yeah, you've always been so mature and I am always so just in awe of how like we are very similar in that where I think we're a lot older than our age and have always been. And I think it's just it's a struggle for people, especially making friends with people are age. I think that's one of the reasons why we connected, because it's hard to it's hard to find people that have the same drive or don't want to focus on the same things
like social media. I mean, yeah, and gosh, that's a good point. I think that is why we connected, and you've always been so good at managing social media and being I know it's really I mean, from my perspective at least like being on it um for an appropriate amount of time. But also I don't know, it just seems like you're well balanced and you just traveled to Europe. Can I say that you just traveled to Europe by yourself?
I mean that's like a testament to who you are, not just drive, but your own you know, esteem and confidence within yourself. And I'm really inspired by it. Thank you so much? Did you enjoy yourself? So it was up and down. Solo travel is not easy, but I wanted to prove to myself that I could do it because I was just we're just overcoming anxiety. That's just
the goal, you know. I've been thinking of my life is like three months increments and I'm like, Okay, who am I going to be in the next three months? And how can I grow to that person? That's good. That makes me anxious thinking about it, But that's good. But I mean does that help you? That helps manager?
And it helps manage my anxiety because if I think of everything over a year, Oh, but then when I think of little increments, and for me, so travel with something I've really wanted to do, but more so I saw someone some friends do it, and I was really inspired by them, and I just was prepared. I well researched my area before I went. But I spent like six days in Paris by myself. Wow, oh, I have so many questions. What are your questions? I just, um,
did you meet anybody while you were there? No? I was by myself. Did you you said it was up and down? What was that? What did that tradectory look like? First day? You were up and then maybe? So here's my here's okay. So basically I the flight was fine. I get to Paris. My phone isn't working, and I'm like, oh it was. And for those who don't know me, I'm an anxious person and this was just testing my anxiety.
So I my phone wasn't working, I couldn't text. I logged into the WiFi of airport and then finally allowed me to log on, but I still couldn't reach. I got a car before because I knew I wouldn't be able to read the airports because it was all in French, right, So I was very cautious of that, and then so I couldn't find my driver. I eventually found him, smart by the way he didn't. It was It was weird because I was told that my driver that I that I got um had a flat tire, and so this
driver was going to bring me that driver. But this driver didn't do that, and so in my mind, I'm like, oh, my goodness, I'm just in a car with this person. No I am in France. If you're me, I'm thinking that this is I'm thinking I'm being Yeah, i think I'm being kidnapped. I'm thinking all the worst things, like phone isn't working, it's a hundred and five degrees when I land, and that it was during like the heat wave. So did it get better better from there? Not much
better from there, I think. So. I have always been very aware of like the mind to body connection and how like your mental health, your anxiety, how it can manifest in your bodies physically. But it was so aggressive, it was hard to take control, and because no one else was there, no one can help me snap out of my own mind. So it was a challenge in that respect, but I pushed through it and it was
really good. I made my own perfume in Paris. I mean, there's no other place in which you should make right now, but you can't spell it war off. Yeah, perfumes don't wear on me at all. Yeah, exactly, that's what I mean. So fast, so fast, I don't know. Yeah, I put someone like two minutes ago. I went to the Liful Tower. I went. Everything there was like all my meals. It sounds very romantic. It was very romantic, but so inexpensive. Well, I'm going, you're gonna I want to go to Europe.
Wanted we should go. We should get a group who Oh, I literally have a friend's in Paris right now. I'm not going to say their name because they like to be like, you know, down down, and that would be so fun. So you're moving to Atlanta for six months next week, Sammy, I am so happy to see you. It really is, like obviously, it's a pleasure to see your friend who you love and trust and get tough great conversations with. So I I am busy, but I think I'm kind of like in for opinion for a pound.
If I'm busy, I don't mind being even busier if the new ends. Absolutely, I know, because if you're already in it, you're like, yeah, also, you're not like a thing on the to do list. I'm happy to see you. I'm feeling a lot of things about I'm from Atlanta, so it's going to be going back. I'm going back, and I really I think in the past year, I found my place in l A and found my friends and kind of falling in love with it in a
way I didn't think I would. I was like, l A, you know that's so, you know, we became we probably became friends this time last year, yeah, August, yeah, or July, probably July. We met in um catch up lunch, and I feel like knowing each other for years, and we actually became friends. We talked about shows, yeah exactly. We Yeah, we've been acquaintances, like really warm acquaintances, acquaint acquaintances, acquaintances, and then we actually became friends. Like a year ago,
we were in such a different place. We were, Yeah you were in college. Well yeah, yeah, in college, in college going to school. But honestly, something that's really genuinely like motivates me and inspires me. It is like how much you're still motivated by school and determined like it pushes me to be like, you got this, that's really sweet. First of all, your commitment to both maintaining your career and also, you know, pursuing an academic career has really
been inspiring to me. Um, but also just the fact that you are very thoughtful about your future. So whatever that means, it might not mean completely you know what. Ever, it means you're just super thoughtful about it. And I think I really want to adapt that to my life. So I am currently on the route, you know, attending a four year but at the same time, I'm like,
I like your totally. I like your fluidity that you've embraced in your life and managing it, and I think I want to apply that to my It's because I I've been learning there is a gray area, and I've been and I struggle with that. I'm like the other you know, there's this whole gray area. So I'm just taking it semester by semester and seeing what life happens. Because also, like, school is always there and I know that,
and I'm learning a lot while there. But on the other hand, if an opportunity would present itself, it's always it's always there as a backup. Totally. I think that's a perfect way to put it. I mean, you have to live your life, and life is unpredictable, and to think that we can plan it outstep by stuff, it's just unreasonable. I am guilty of it, but I'm trying to step How does your go ahead? Sorry, no, it's just it's hard. How does your anxiety manifest? Oh? My,
so many different ways? Socially, academically, Okay, what else is there? Generally? Um like, generally it's alwa, It's just it's always there in some type of way. I also have O c D, which makes it it's just like they feed off each other and it's just not it's not it. I've just been coming to terms with the fact that I may be an anxious person. I really deny. I mean, this is not diagnosed, and I don't know for sure if
I am. But I think I'm realizing that anxiety has a lot of different definitions or off in a lot of different ways, and I think I'm I'm super guarded and sometimes and I think maybe that's just a form of being anxious or like, definitely have a lot of career academic anxiety. I find myself very much living in the future or living in daydreams to try to like cope with my fear about the present. Oh same, is that? What that is? Do you do the same thing? I
do that too. It's it's really hard, especially I think the times that we've lived in for the past two and a half years, we've been daydreaming for like the next thing to get out of where we're at. And I feel like we're finally started at this point where it's like we should be also be enjoying where we are, but it's so difficult. Is that how your anxiety manifest would you say? I think so? I think I'm yeah, I think I'm also just super sensitive to like over stimulation,
which is kind of inevitable right now. Like you are a young person who's grown up in the age of the Internet and social media, you have so much coming at you all the time, even if you try to mitigate it, like I'm barely on Instagram, but still like if I you know, being an actor, particularly entertainment should be recreational, but it's also it's all I know exactly. It's studying. When you listen to a podcast, it's it's studying. No, I love podcast. My dad sorry, study, and I'm like, no,
I'm just listening. Try. It's hard, but it's hard, and it's hard not to like watch something or see a movie, which I love doing. But at the same time, that's my career. So I get anxiously like, gosh, why am I not doing something like this? How can I do something like this? I like that my brain just feels like it's always on, and I think a lot of people experience the same thing. So I don't know what to call it. Is it like, is that anxiety or what is that? I think it manifests in so many
different ways. But when you know how a sausage gets made, you know the process, it's so natural for that to be Like, I wonder what they did about this totally. I like the idea, though, like you can't explain art down to a science. It's not meant to be. It's not it's it's not math, it's not you know. It's like I think, I I've been actually considering what I
want to study. I'm at a crossroads. I've always said I wanted to like definitely pursue something, you know, social science and sociology, cultural loss of apology, yes, something like that. But that I don't. I mean, I do really love movies and I want to get behind the scenes of it one day, And so should I be pursuing that. I'm like, you can do both. Yeah, there are some curriculums or some programs for sure. Major double major major, minor. Yeah,
I guess that's probably the answer. But at the same time, major and like film and then minor in psychology. That's probably the route that I'm going to go. I could could you see that from that's pretty badass? Okay, we have to take a quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk about other aspects of the industry might be interested in partaking in, and some existential life questions. We'll be right back and we're back. I could see you doing some producing and directing in the future too,
I think that is. I mean, i'd like the idea of control. Oh, same, I love the idea of it too. It's so and I've just been Yeah, I've been an actress, just kind of reading the lines I've been given. Um, I do more than that. I would probably should't be that reductive, but in essence, I've just been performing other people's dreams and writings Since I was six, and I'm like, Okay, I think maybe I want to I want to do my own things. Yes, what was that entail? Um? I
definitely like the idea of writing. I've always loved writing. Did I not tell you to do this? Like a year ago? Na, I believe we had this exact conversation. I would be like, yeah, you were really even really good at like writing or doing something. I'm sure you did because truthfully, and you're gonna deny this, you're always a few steps ahead of not just me, but just I feel like you're a very much a big picture thinker and maybe when some people aren't ready for it.
I remember having this conversation. I was like, I feel like we've had this conversation before. Um, probably definitely just coming around too late, and I'm definitely coming around to it. I think it. I had like an epiphany probably like winter of last year, and I was like, oh, you know, I don't have to wait. When we went to the team books summit, Oh my gosh. Maybe around that side. That was fun. That was the day. It was a long day. That was that was a super long day.
But I think you've had it changed. My god. We were at We went to the Team Books summit together and it was in December, and I chose to wear a dress, a sun dress I should wear, thank you, but very not warm, um and true. So we went across the street at one point when there was like no speakers or anything, and Urban Outfitters was having a pretty good thing and I was like, let me get some pants and sure, and remember boots. I did get a pair of boots and I love them, wear them.
I haven't the summer, but they are in storage for my in my dorm room and we're going to whip him out this year and we're just gonna rock them good. Oh. I can't wait to see them again. Those are I think one of my favorite pair of boots I bought. It's not the best when you want to posibly buy something and it ends up being like a staple. That was crazy. That was great, But that was a real friendship.
That was a real friendship moment right there. I speaking of the team folks on of this is like shifting gears a little bit. But how do you feel about this generation and the pressure of all of beings like civically or um like politically engaged? Because I trust me I mean, I've always been that way, just instinctualists talk
with you about this. I love this. So I feel like it's really hard to be our age and I feel like for me and I know it's different for everybody, the way I feel less helpless is when I do something. And for me, that's also staying educated, that figuring out how I can connect with elected officials. That's how I can educate myself more on just our country and the history and the way it treats people and how what
can I do personally? And so I think it's great when other people get involved because I think that we're the generation that when we come together in large amounts, like we've seen what it can do. But I also understand that some people that doesn't interest them and they just want to be a kid. And I feel like we shouldn't force anyone to do to be active if it's just personally how I feel I am making an impact or can do something in this crazy fucking no.
I I agree. I think that, um that is totally like how I feel less helpless, Like I I feel physically like I have to. At the same time, I really get frustrated by the rhetoric that comes from older generations that's sort of in line with like gen Z is gonna save us, like it's our responsibility, Like we need help, we need help. I think every individual should be engaged some way, and sometimes it's can be so
small within your own community. But I mean there is so much pressure when people have said, multiple people have said to me, you know you're gonna be the one to fix us, Like why Donna the generation? I'm like me, little me. I still haven't gotten my permit um neither have I. That's right, you told me about that. I know. I still I'm nervous to take you a second time. But my brother told me to just suck it up, just do it. I'm like, if you fail, I fail,
you got it exactly. You can always do it again. Here's a question. Are you more afraid of failure or success? I'm thinking about this yesterday. Tell you my answer a good question. Yeah, okay, So I think I'm more afraid to succeed than to fail, because I feel like if I'm failing, you're only failing if you don't get back up. But I feel like if you succeed, then I'd be worried of how much there is to lose. Let's just
got deep. But no, Sammy, that's like such a good question, Like I'm going to start asking other people that and then giving you credit. Question. Um, I am totally just so afraid of failure, so I think it will be disingenuous for me to say anything else. However, I've never considered fully being fearful of success. I even bringing it back to the team, folks, I'm at I am terrified of the amount of attention some people receive we talked
about and that you might receive as so. Prime example, Olivia Rodrigo really just cool personal round performed there, and just seeing the amount of people who were invested in her, in her performance, when she was wearing and everything made me and I'm not even uncomfortable. There were people like I want to see what she's wearing, and I want these grown me. These were grown men older than her, older,
way older. And I told and I remember, it was just dis concerning how many people cared so much about her personal life. And I think that's a real issue that's happening. And we see this like you shouldn't put anybody on a pedestal. It's dehumanizing to do that to anybody, Like what people don't get these are just teenage Yes, even if you could be praising them. I think praising somebody excessively and like you know whatever, what's we're braiding
them excessively is totally coming from the same place. Yes, And I saw that happen with her, and I was just like, gosh, I feel for her because ultimately she's just a human being like we all are. And in that way, I'm totally fearful of success that like that version of it, that concentrated and people know everything about caring about you, being invested in your life and your decisions. That is terrifying to me. But it also comes aloud privilege.
You know, it is interesting, but so many people our age want that. It's interesting just seeing how many people want their goal. Their end goal is faint, but not what they're doing or their journey. And I want this, But I think that's particular. I mean, maybe it happens started and maybe like if I could guess, like nineties, early two thousands, you had to ntview, you had just
more um kind of intimate entertainment about celebrities lives. So maybe that sort of craze started then of like people wanting not just to be an actress or wanting to be famous. So maybe that's where it started. But I think it's even more intense now within this generation, and
I think that's bad. I think some of the people that started are like the Paris Hilton and the Kim Kardashian where though I think they've become incredible like business women and great things, at the time, they became famous for not doing that, for just they became famous for being famous. And I think that's where the craze started totally, and it's even more intense now and and to some degree,
I get it. You want to be important. It hurts to be alive and feel I imagine it would hurt to be alive and feel like you hadn't left Mark and I totally. I mean in speaking of you know, if you're failure, that's where it comes from. For me, it's like I want to make the most out of this life, like I've got to do something with the time I have. And so I think it's maybe those people who strive for fame where we just have the same fear, which is a failure and wanting to be important.
So I get it, but I saw compensating for something. Yeah, totally, I get it. But I think we all needed like shifter our values. And I say this, you know to myself as well too, not success or whatever. People's definitely enough that is, but just um pride within oneself and the actions that you're taking. I've been defining success lately as contentness, being happy with that and not about the numbers, because as soon as I go down that, why do I not grow down? Well? Comparison, Oh sammy, do you
do the same thing? Just like comparing I comparison. I don't look at numbers for the podcast. If one person is listening, that's all I care about. Yeah, yeah, I think that you're totally right. I mean, I'm just so bad when it comes to comparing and like but just afected by the outside world. Yes, it's do it all the time. And I think have you noticed that when I'm when I'm on at least when I'm on social media,
I do it less. And that's why I am like, Wow, social media is great to not be honest, yes, no, exactly, Like that's why for most of the time I have Instagram to lead it off my phone I'm not like an angel, though I totally redownload and like, go check somebody's story. But otherwise I like to keep it off because if I'm not reminded of um, it's not even particular people, it's just the world at large, I can focus on myself and what I want to accomplish my
own self esteem. But it's incredibly difficult. So I guess I would just encourage everybody to do what they can to too. Detach a little bit. And I will say that was one of the really good things about so Will Travel for me is it gave me a lot of time to think and thinking like where do I want to go? What do I want it? What are my intentions? What do I hope to put out right? You know, you sort of have to force yourself to be with yourself exactly, And I wish I would have
done that earlier. Wherever you go, there you are. Yeah. And when I first heard that, it terrified the ship out of me because I was like, Buck, I should probably really learned to like being with myself if I'm stuck with myself. So that's what the journey is. It's so funny you say that, Gosh, that's Quotes like that are bringing more and more too as I get older. Just like the quintessential stuff you heard when you were younger, whatever the meaning now yeah, I know exactly, just like
treat yourself the way you want to be treated. Just all this stuff. It's like, oh wow, it's so hard. True, it's incredibly hard. Um, but it's all ringing, very true. Yeah, wherever you go, there you are. So you have to focus your energy and resources in your time, not scrolling through your feed I get the instinct, but instead focusing it on yourself and how you can be a better person. And I just realized you could swear on the pod.
Yeah you can't, And I think that's great. Yeah, anytime we have to take one more quick break, but when we come back, I'm gonna talk more about your love of acting and your new amazing role in Gotham Nights. We'll be right back and we're back. One of the things that I'm curious about is there a struggle with
being an actor. You're going to someone else's mind and you're drawing another character and creating another person essentially, but when you're also working on yourself, is that every difficult when you're working on someone else. Um, that's such a
good question, Sam, you're so good. Um, yes, and no to So to be honest that my work thus far has been pretty simple, and that when you were young, you're usually cast because of your essence and not because you're being asked to play some sort of like transformative character. So I really haven't had that experience of having to do like some deep psychological work. I'm excited for it and look forward to that, but I haven't had that yet. Going into this new job that I'm doing, it will
be different. I think I'll have to do more character work, and I am and I'm excited about that. But I think you kind of find yourself through characters. Maybe I don't think they're entirely separate. Um, I think you kind of you can just kind of unravel and unfold. And
I think that's why I gravitate towards acting. I think I've always felt conflicted about who I am, and that's partly because of age, but it's also because, as I said, I think I'm I don't know if impressionable as the word, but I really soaked up my environment and so when I was younger, it was my four brothers and just
kind of becoming them and reflecting their personalities. Um and so I've always felt like I don't know exactly who I am, And maybe that's why I like acting, because I can like no exactly and for once that becomes a benefit and not something I just like about myself. The idea that I can be a ton of people, or that I hold a bunch of perspectives in my mind is actually a benefit to me in acting. So for me, I feel like it's just pulling from like all the all the little parts with me right now.
That's that's so beautiful. That's also like a working theory. But you know what, like that's life. And be easy on yourself because you are still a teenager. Of course you're you're about to not be soon. Know just airs I'll be twenty What I didn't I was hesitant to bring it up. But I feel like you're so ready for twenty. I feel like when I first met you, you were already like settling down. I've always ready to have always been ready to not be a team ajan.
As soon as it started, I was like, Nah, this isn't for me. So I'm hoping twenties is great. Oh, I think it will be. I mean, that's all you hear from people that either actually and then thirties are thriving. My parents are like their thirties for their favorite decade. And that's an extreme comfort to me because it's like your twenties both more money exactly, more money resources and you know yourself exactly. I like that, Sammy. I can't wait. I wonder what's going to be like, Oh, I think
it'll be great. I think we'll be like just having these same conversations, except maybe with a little more wisdom and perspective. M I love that. I want to talk about your show real quick because I am so proud of you. You were I mean, god, I really just love you and I'm great for you because you were there for me. There was a year of unemployment and you were there, of course to believe in me and really um encourage me to kind of take my life
into my own hands. And it's great that I am just now picking up on that, like like what's happened? Like what's happened? So Gotham Knights. I saw the trailer. I haven't even watched the whole thing because I can't why, Um, I've used this word a lot of this episode to excuse me, but yeah, it makes me anxious. You know what. I was like, I did not expect the twist and turns. I'm so, I'm really I'm very excited to watch it because I was like, oh, ship, didn't expect that. It
was just the trailer. I really, God, I hope you like it. You know, it's hard, like there's so much pressure, especially within like the DC comic book community, and um, especially with me. I'm kind of hesitant to speak about this, but like, I'm playing a character that's adapted from the comics from the comic books called Kerry Kelly who was depicted white m h in the comics, and I'm not,
um really yeah, I don't know. Did you know that? Um? So, it's just been hard because like the first thing when I was researching my character after I found out I got the role, the first thing that shows up, because Deadline had already done like press release that this news was out there on YouTube, was some random video from like this old guy Gotham Knights will be a woke disaster. My face on the thumbnail. Great, that's a reminder of
like that's still where we are. That I can just be born um and have a particular pigment and whatever particular ethnic makeup, and I am representative of Awoke Disaster. But that doesn't make any sense to me because it's bullshit. But also, like your talent will just show that's all you can do. All you can do is do your best, thanks and be what you think this character is. I think that's the direction we want to move into. Right where where people are being I mean speaking, yeah, I
mean right. It's just like, why does it matter about the essence of somebody? You know, why does it matter? Don't worry whoever made that video? And who's all the people who are disappointed in casting a lot of other like white people on the show. So it's and I promise they're there. You've got your representation, I promise, I promise use enough representation for everyone. Trust me, Mr Gotha Niese will be Awoke Disaster. I get the desire to
have representation, but you have it. It's there in the show. You have it, you know what you know? Brown and yeah, brown people can have maybe. I mean I don't like to put myself on that pedestal, but but I think everybody deserves obviously to be represented. I mean, that's what we want out of entertainment. So just relax, people have their time see it, you can be it, yes exactly, and think of the impact that that can have on
people that will see you on the screen. I yeah, And that makes me again, makes me anxious and I and I don't want to put myself on that pedestal. I I feel like we're in a time where there are so many great examples of people of color represented with them film and TV to look at, and so um yeah I I, um yeah, Well, I know you don't think yourself. I think you're who cares like what your skin color is. I think you're just an incredibly
talented person. And I am so excited for this next chapter and see what it's gonna just unravel for you, because y'all were all is about to see nab A Robbins. Get ready hopefully they like her. I don't know. I was, you know, I've never been very like caught into trailers, and that trailer was really good. Yeah. That means I highly recommend you watch it. Oh, I I'm you know, I'm a fan of the show. Like I read the
first the pilot. Um, and got treated before I took the role whatever, and I was a fan of it. I was like, oh gosh, they did Natalie James, um Chad, these writers, they just did a good job. It's fun. It's it's really fun. In the second episode I just read it, It's really fun, and I'm just like, oh, God, like, yeah, I'm excited to be a part of something that I
considered pretty kid gas and um. I have so many ambitions as an actress and and this is one of them, and I'm excited I get to fulfill this at such a young age. So thank you for being supportive of it. Of course, all I want is my friend's approval. I really mean it. I probably I will always be here to support always, thank you all, always speak here to support you. I'm a fan of yours and grateful for you. I love you. You're just really an inspiration to me.
I hope you don't take that as sachurin. And I can't wait to see where you go next. I can't wait to be in our thirties together reflecting on reflecting, Yeah, exactly, And I can't wait to see what this will look like for you the next six months, hopefully I'll get to visit you in Atlanta. Yes please, we'll FaceTime also and just catch up and think it knows for FaceTime, thanking us for FaceTime. And we can't let six months go back. We can't. Oh, I'm sad this conversation's ending.
I'll do it again. We'll do it again. And just thank you for just taking the time with everything you have going on in your life. And I appreciate you just always being there for me and be having you as a friend and very grateful. It's a lovely way to spend it. Thank you so much, Sai.