Featuring Meghan Trainor

And he recently got glasses and he's just I didn't think he could get cuter, and he's so cute it hurts, and I just keep going, Oh, I want more, you know, I want four babies. Four that's a very specific number. Yes, it's a lot. We're like trying to name the rest of them already, and everyone's like, are you gonna do like our names? Are you going to change it up? That's what I was like, We we have to figure this out right now, because we either have to do

all ours or we have to go right. He's Lali's you know, like they all of this sound the same or something. Our biggest thing is we don't want to name him after anybody or name our babies after anyone. And we don't like if you know someone who's like a bad person with that name name, it ruins a name. So I'll be like, oh my god, what about this name? And Daryl's like I hate that guy. I'm like, okay, you know, so we have to both not know anyone in the world with that name. Do you go through

the baby books? Oh, I go through the websites that are like unisex names, and like, I like names that could be for a boy or a girl. That's my favorite too, so I'm really narrowing it down, like Dylan or Sean or Ryan Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. My brother's name Ryan. So I'm like, I already lost that one. That's an our name too. I know it's perfect rip. I might deserve it for like a daughter, so cute, for a daughter that couldn't be nuts for a redheaded

spy kid, that's it. Yeah, it would break your name after rule, but because it's a girl, it doesn't count. Yeah, Like we knew, right, I wanted a girl name Riley, but then and we knew the name, and then that they were like at the boy, and I was like, we're keeping the name. Was it a surprise? Did you know the gender? They called me at ten weeks they could do a blood test now sick. I was like, I need to know now, and she was like, actually it's a boy. And I was like, oh oh, I'd

be the exactly anticipation of not knowing for nine months. No, I have no. I think people are crazy that they can achieve that patience. My mom did that with both of us, and I was like, how no, no, no, no no. And then when people are like, you just have to see the baby's face and then you'll know the name. Wrong. Baby looks completely every week. That baby changes, like you have a whole brand new baby every week.

Newborns looks so different than the baby. Oh yeah, especially if you push it out there aliens for at least a couple of weeks. Like ruly, yeah, really was having a C section scary, terrifying. I've never had stitches. I've never had You're right, dude. I was like, I've had vocal surgery, but I was asleep this you have to be awake, you have to be awake, and they come out in seven minutes. But you hear everything, you smell everything. You I was like, am I going to be moving?

They're like no, bit, I was on a rollercoaster. I was like okay. And then he came out and he wasn't breathing. I was like, where's that cry wasn't breathing. They took him to the nikki and they're like, dad, do you want to stay here with wife or do you want to go to a baby? And I was like you stay and the doctor was like you should go with a baby, and I was like, you betrayed me. And so he left and I was alone for forty five minutes getting so back up and you didn't get

to meet him right now. I got to see him for one second and they took him away and I was like, wow, that didn't go. I was so drugged up though that I was like, hey, he's fine. Were the drugs so great? But yeah? Yeah, I mean I was at ease. Like my mom was like crying on the phone because she couldn't be with me because of COVID,

So she was are you okay? And I was like he's good, Like I'm chilling, yeah, And then I talked about it like weeks after with my therapist and she's like, so you definitely have some PTSD, Like we have a little trauma. We're gonna work on that. That was a traumatic birth and I was like, oh for that to happen. Um, he was planning for a c session because he was breached, like he was not in any kind of position to be pushed out and he flipped right at the end.

And I was like, did you know so? And I was like watching every video on how to give birth. I watched my aunt give birth twice. I was like, I'm ready and then they're like C section. I was like, I haven't seen these videos yet, like my research. Yeah, I would get an epidural. I have nothing to please. Uh no, you need it. I need it. I need that epidural. My friend Hilary Duff has home births, which you can't have any drugs for that. She's a hero. I want to be. I want to be around doctors

just for like my anxiety. Me too. Write I was like, I want to be tubed up. I want the oxygen clothes, I want the nicky right everything just in case, because I feel like the worst case scenarios. Oh yeah, I go to death every time if I say good bye to my it's a problem working on. When I say good bye to anyone, I'm like, you'll probably get in a car accident. I'll never see you. Get it. That's how let's go by. It's a real thing I'm working on.

That is actually really funny you say that, because I used to have horrific separation anxiety, and I would always I couldn't do sleepovers, and I would always think if I want to sleep over that I would either die or my parents would die. Wow. Yeah, and therapy helped, see and now I don't have those Wow, that's amazing. We have a lot in common, Megan, we do. I feel you girl, stay in that therapy. It's amazing. Really. What's the hardest part about having a kid that no

one told you about? I guess I wasn't warned a lot of like when they fall, like you have to You're gonna just watch it happen, you know, and you have to try to not go what baby, you know, which I do, and Daryl's like, calm, come, you know, they look how you react to Yeah, no one really talks about, like, I don't know, when they fall it hurts if they're in any pain, if he has a cold, You're just like, oh my god, you're as happy as

your least happy as kid, which is real. What has been the most interesting part of seeing your son grow? That is just like, oh my goodness, he's like a human. Aw. I guess like the eyesight part, Like I didn't realize too when they're infants there like they can only see a certain distance, So that was bizarre, Like they're literally learning how to see and breathe and eat and swallow.

Something that's so refreshing about Like what you post in your content is just that it's honest and you're not showing the easy parts, which I feel like is what social media is off in a highlight reel. So what made you want to get more into social media? Because you're you have the podcast now pick talk with social media expert. How what made you open up more and not those platforms? Um? I mean, I think like the

pandemic showed me that we can work from home. And I enjoy working from home because usually we're on the road constantly, and now with a baby, I'm trying to do more work from home so I could see him and be with him. So I think a podcast with my brother too. Was just like a fun extra way to have therapy with him. And we've had many family breakthroughs. So if you ever, like are struggling with a family member, just start a podcast and you just talk for an

hour a day. It's great. What's the biggest thing? Being on a podcast has taught you? Um that there's other people out there that feel exactly how you feel. It's very nice. It's very nice. And it's like watching Ryan talk about his sobriety and how many people comment like, Yo, I'm going through the same thing and you talking about it really helps me. Like watching him see how his words impact others out there is a beautiful thing and it's like something and not a lot of people get

to experience. So that was the best part. And I'm so beyond proud of him. I think he's the coolest. He's like my favorite person ever. So watching him become a better person because he's been working on it has been the best part of our lives. How is the podcast? Has it made you guys closer or has it brought some tension? Because I know working with family can bring some Oh, it's definitely made us closer. Well, I always worked with my family, so we're not like that luckily

think thank god. Um, but he used to be my camera guy forever and he never was like I want to take pictures. I just like threw a camera in his hands and he was like okay, and he was like I'm not even looking, but sure. And I think over years of that, he wanted to quit and we got into a big blow up. Um, and that was like the last time we drank. So that was him trying to say I want to quit, but not like upset you. And I was like, I want you to

quit and not freak out. So it was, um, this is a new lane where he's like working and he's in front of the camera and he is really honest with himself and it's helped him a lot. It's like the best therapy. He just becomes such a nice person, a nicer person because it was already great. I love that. And I think there's something about the podcast format where there's no like three minute videos where you have to like get him points. You can just kind of show

your personality and for yourself. Oh yeah, I'm always like you do want to plan something, It's like, nah, we'll wing it. I'm like, okay, and we do just because, like we're best friends, so we can just chat all day long. Yeah. I love working on a podcast. I love your podcast. You're amazing. Thank you so much. I feel like you're just talking about how human you are. We need more of that. Yeah, we're like working on it. The concept is like we're just working on being better

humans in every category of our life. So we get really, really open and really honest. And I like that. I think it's harder to pretend to be somebody when you're in this business. It's like it's exhausting. So being myself people enjoy that, and that's wonderful because I don't have to pretend to be anybody else. Do you think showing more yourself on social media has allowed you to be more open in your songwriting and your music or they two separate things in your mind? Oh yeah for sure. Um,

especially like this album I'm might come out. I came out with Bad for Me, which is like, um, a slower song, but a real situation that I had with my therapist with a family member and had to write a letter and send it to him and and that stuff is real and I wrote it the next day, and a lot of people I've seen on TikTok relate to that, and they they'll even say I needed this like ten years ago, like this song is me right now, and it's it's really cool to relate with other others

like that. And I've been writing a lot about being a mom because I feel like moms aren't supposed to complain or cry online, and you know, and it's like, well, it's a lot of stuff is hard and scary. Like we just found out he's not using his left eye because it's like, yeah, because his eyesight is that bad that he just wasn't using it. And when we discovered that, Darryl and I were like heartbroken because we're like, we

had no idea this poor boy like couldn't see. So there's a lot of crazy emotions that come of being a parent, and I want to talk about it because it helps a lot of people out there and it makes me feel like I'm normal. I actually had a similar experience when I was about four. My left I used to cross and I couldn't. Yeah, I had to use the eye patch and everything on my right eye to make it stronger. I had my little red glasses

so I know the struggle. Yeah, there, and they find it younger now, so they can find it at six months old. So when he's a year and a half, he's a baby and he has glasses, and they were like, well, at least you caught it now, And I was like, what, I feel like, he's so young. They're like, well, nowadays, we can catch it earlier. But my brothers didn't get glasses untill they were like four, so they lived their life like walking into walls. That was me. I would

literally My brother used to make fun of me. I would walk when we're in a hotel room and they were clear doors, I couldn't tell that they were closed, so I would just walk into the door because I just could not have that depth perception. It's so heartbreaking, and your parents, like they must have felt so bad. We just felt so bad. My brother was cracking up. He was cracking up, and I was just crying on the floor. But that's what siblings are for, that's what

we're he for. Yeah, that's what they're here for. But I feel like growing up can be really hard, and I think it's really cool how you're documenting the struggles of being a parent because again, it's just not happening much. Yeah, I don't know if I'm even allow to talk about it, but I want to do it for you because I love you. I'm writing a book about pregnancy and like how bizarre it is and like things no one told me, you know, So what's the strangest see the open No

one told you about pregnancy because I'm very cure. Um, I knew like you could have different skin like pimples and stuff, but I straight up got um perioral dermatitis where it's like dry rough patches kind of like rosatia. And I just thought I kept like burning my skin on products or like the cup brushes I were using where I was allergic to, so I'd have these dry patches and it was miserable and itchy, and I was

like what is this? And later I found out like, oh, it can come with your hormone and balance, and I was like, oh, so there's like there's really strange stuff that I'm going to get into in the book. The women's body is crazy. It's crazy. We're amazing. We're the greatest. We're the greatest. I grew eyelids. Eyelids, did you know? Fun fact? That always like blew my mind. You grow the taste buds and the eyelashes and the third trimester,

whoa sick? Did you ever feel the pressure of bouncing back after having a kid, because I feel like there's this big pressure on like snapping back into your same body, but no, like your body changes. I knew like I had a goal of snapping back because I also was my heaviest when I got pregnant. I was like in COVID gained a fift you know, like I was up.

I was a hundred and eighty five pounds and that was my heaviest, and and I got pregnant and I went up to like to twenty and so when I after I gave birth, he los like ten pounds because that's the baby. But I got a dietitian after I was trying to do it myself and I wasn't succeeding because I didn't know how to work out right or eat right, and I tried to count calories and it was miserable, and I was like, I don't want to

hate this. So I got a dietitian and she taught me like the beauty of healthy food and how few does food is fuel. It's not just like yeah, it's it could be a beautiful thing. She taught me how like we're all burning fires, right, and if your fire goes out, like you don't eat for a long time, you're gonna feel angry and miserable. And if you try to throw a fat log on that fire, like eat a fat, huge meal, it's not going to make the fire go up. You're just gonna like give yourself a

tummy ache. So she taught me, like, you have to eat snacks all day and you have to like always eat when you're hungry. And I was like, wow, I thought it was like starve, you know. So she taught me, I love healthy food and I lost like sick steve pounds. Now I'm like, I'm like one, wait, I weigh one fifty seven now and when I was when I got practice five. So I'm like the healthiest I've ever been. As long as you feel good, that's what matters. And

something I never thought I would struggle with was food. Yeah, I would go through those cycles. I think being on social media really exacerbated it, where I was like, Okay, I'm gonna work out, I'm gonna eat right, and then it would get to the point where I also go c D, which I think dieting for me not good, and I would be like, oh my goodness, there are too many calories and strawberry and right when that happened,

I was like, I think we have an issue. Yeah, it's scary and it's it's it can really mess with your mind. So my dietician taught me, She's like, we're not going to weigh this week, it doesn't matter, Like do you feel good? And I'd be like, yeah, I feel great. Yeah, And that's how we do it. And she's just so good. She also specializes with like teenagers

or anyone with a eating disorder. Um. But she told me to that like a ten year old boy came in with like anorexia, Like it's it's kind of spiking again and I think it's social media and it's heartbreaking. But she's like having her specialized in that too really helps me out because she makes sure like are you happy, are you talking to your therapists? Is everything okay? How is your week been? So she changed my life. Her name is Christie Christie. She changed my life forever and

changed my bad habits. I wasn't taking care of myself and now I am that's so important and it's it's really hard to get yourself to that point to fully love yourself. And I feel like we're also on that journey. What advice do you have for little tips and tricks to get through the day to stay more positive and confident? Oh? Man, I have I've heard so many things, but I mean self talk, like being positive. I know it's hard, but

so hard. The more negative, the negative you are, like, the more your brain heres that like fourteen thousand times over and over again, so you're just bullying yourself. Um. And my therapist had me look in the mirror for five minutes a day naked and just look at myself, and I was like, I hate this, Like it was the hardest. Day one was the hardest thing ever. Day three I was like, huh, yeah, you start, it starts

turning and you see the that it's working. So Um, it's all starts with you working on yourself and it's very hard to do, but it's a thing. I'm working on it every day. That sounds like what I used to do exposure therapy, where it's essentially just doing your biggest fears and then just going straight into it. And it's a fact Oprah Toppy that one. Yeah, whatever scares you, you you should probably do it, like okay, And I had to do a TV show right after I gave birth.

I had like, um three months off and which is like the normal of what they have now because America is crazy. But I was like, I'm gonna be on television that like gains ten pounds no matter what. And it was a food program, so I had to eat food all day. Top set failed me style to check it out, and I'm like, I was like pumping during breaks and then I was like eating their food and I was like, oh, I was really on a like on on a program and I was really looking forward

to not doing this. But I'm the only woman in history who's lost weight on that show. Because it's all about moderation. That's what that show taught me, is like I can eat whatever I want as long as it's whittle. That's a fun fact. Fun fact. Yeah, everything moderation. Yeah. Well, actually on set, it was like all women and they were so they took care of me, and one was pregnant like literally every day. I was like, oh girl,

you're a hero. Okay, let's take a quick break, but when we come back, I'm going to talk about being a woman in America these days, all the different thousands of music you're bringing in your new album, how hard but beneficial it is, cutting out toxic relationships out of your life, and so much more. We'll be right fact

and we're back. It's really hard to be a woman nowadays, especially in America, And I just want to thank you also for posting and talking on social media about what's happening with the Supreme Court and Ruby Wade, because it's more people should talk about it, and it's a really hard thing. So thank you for saying something. I know. Thank you. Thank you for saying that I got a lot. I don't get a lot of hate comments or I don't look for them, but that one I got a

lot of nasty stuff. And it's not even like hate comments. This this ship was evil. It was like, well, at least you didn't abort your beautiful song. And I was like, oh my goodness. So I turned off the comments and

life is much better. But at that day, I was releasing my song that day, so I was like, oh, this sucks, you know, And I wanted to make sure I wasn't posting about me, and then I was like, I really have to say something, and this is terrible, and it's We're supposed to be land of the free and it doesn't feel like it. It really doesn't. I did a post it's scary to be a woman. But hopefully by having these conversations and talking about it, we can change the stigma that I don't know where it

came from. Yeah, it's like we're going backwards. I don't get it. I'm in college right now, and I'm very scared and just I'm an anxious person, but like adding the social aspect and knowing that my rights aren't secured. Its like in some places, like birth control is being taken away, and it's like there's so many medical reasons why we need all these things and they're not thinking about that. It's very, very frustrating. And my friend and I joke all the time, like should we go to Canada?

Like she would just late to go to Canada. Now there's a dawn devout a house. Um yeah, but it's scary and hopefully something good will happen because we're just going the wrong way. Just to switch topics a little bit, I have really noticed about your music and this next album is you're changing up the style. You're just trying out different styles, different dramas, and I love it, yes, ma'am. Yeah, I was going really pop for a while there because I love pop and I love this is still pop music.

But I did want to bring in my elements from my first album. I keep telling people it's like title two point oh um if title grew up, you know, and it's so you'll hear like the duop vibes that everyone loves. And I tried to go songwriting first, So songs like Superwomen are very like people call my Dolly parton song um, and that's I was really proud of that because my whole life, like my favorite thing in life is songwriting. So when I'm improving there, I'm like, oh,

I'm winning, you know, like I'm doing the best. Like yeah, I like the practice finally made it through, you know. And so these songs are very powerful and I think my best songwriting yet. I know it too because I've experienced life more and I think there there's that balance where to write about life you have to experience it and not just focus on writing. So what has that process been to not focus on like if the song is going to be vial, but focus on improving the

writing and becoming the best art is for yourself. Yeah, I think the best part about writing a whole album and a project is that you can You can't have songs like what it's really because I have a platform. It's like what do I want to say? And then being a mom, I was like, well, I want to say, like this is hard and like and everyone was interviewing me at the time and they're like, you're still positive, it's so happy and you're like, how do you do it?

You're so confident, And I was like, no, dude, I write these songs because I'm just in my head, like I see a therapist every week. I'm on antidepressants, Like I'm I'm here and I'm working my booty on working on it. I'm working on it, but you gotta work on it. And that's My songs are my therapy. Like my songs are me admitting like not everything is perfect over here, you know, um, especially bad for me. I

didn't know that would be a single. I didn't know that the first that's like a real personal thing that's happening in my family that my family members are like, that's going first. I'm like, it's like I was just trying to work through something that her. I'm just trying

to cope over here, I'm just coping. So yeah, this album had a lot of heart, and I think like the last song on the album, called Final Breath is literally um the movie The Notebook, because I tell Darryl, like, that's how we're gonna die, like holding hands in bed Old. That's so bittersweet and romantic at the same time. Yeah. Yeah, So I have an impending doom fear of death. So that's the album for sure. Oh yeah, yeah, I've always been terrified. It's the unknown of it. It's the unknowing.

I'm going to like, I'm going to a haunted mansion with the podcast at the end of this month to hopefully see a ghost so that I know I could stick around after I pass, you know what I mean, And I want to know that I could still chill with my kids. Do you believe in ghosts? I want you so bad. I just haven't seen one, but I love watching the videos online. I'm like, I might be real, you know, I'm like skeptical, but I'm like, but like,

if it were real, that'd be pretty crazy. I'm like, that's so wonderful to know that I get chilly here and haunt everyone. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for. Manifest, Manifest, Manifest, Manifest, Manifest, Hunt Forever do you manifest? I guess so, but not like intentionally, like wake up. Yeah. I'll say stuff like we're gonna write a book one day, you know, and then I'm doing it, or like we're gonna have four kids,

four kids for kids, you know that's gonna happen. I'm always I want twins too, so I get a two for one deal and I'm like, damn, we're gonna have twins. And I already had a C section. So there's like a target like my head. Just open it right back up. We'll get him out safely, you know. So that's a dream. Something that I really love about the song Bad for Me is how honest it is. There are so few songs that talk about the hard stuff, the hard stuff

and the toxicity that relationships can form. And just because it was amazing at one point doesn't mean that it's still meant to go on. Do you struggle with that? Also? Cutting relationships if it gets a little toxic. Oh my god. Yeah, I've got it from my mom. Wh just I feel so bad. We were in therapy yesterday. I dragged my mom to therapy and she was like, you guys, feel

like you're responsible for everyone's feelings huh. And I was like yeah, ding ding ding, like I have to make sure everyone's happy and like and my mom is the same way, so I got it from her. Um, She's like, you're not really responsible for everyone's happiness, right, Like it's

not up to you. And I was like, oh, so, like yeah, this situation when you have a family member, it's so hard because I've cut off friends and I've seen the benefits and like seeing, oh my god, life is so much easier, um and better and um I think like Meryl Streep said something like that, like if they're toxic, then they need to be out of your life. And I was like, I'll do what every say Meryl Streep and oprah, Um, there's just like soul suckers, you know.

But um, when it's family, it's harder, man, because they're not chosen and they're they're like they're blood and you have to see them every Christmas and and it's really difficult to try to ask them like, Okay, this isn't good for me. We need space or we need time, especially when you write out a beautiful letter and get no response. Like that really sucked, but it it told me like what I'm doing is right, you know, like when they show who they are, that's who they are,

believe them. I went through that and I wrote a letter to a family member a few months ago, and I never sent it. Really I did because I knew there was going to be no response, So I just wrote it and I got all the closure from that. You know what I have? My team is so smart. They did this honestly. Um they made a website for me, a campaign for the song. My therapist told me to dot co or you can literally go write an anonymous letter and just like blasted out. That's amazing, so smart.

I was like, we have to take one more quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk about how therapist impacted your life, your marriage and going back on tour. We'll be right back and we're back. How long have you been in therapy? A couple of years now. But I got a new therapist that like because that's the thing. If you have one bad therapy session, you just like I hate it. My family and my parents are in that generation where they're like, I don't need therapy.

I'm not crazy. I'm like, you need so much therapy. It's insane if you're saying that you need therapy. Yeah, exactly. So I got this therapist though that specializes in like moms who work and who are famous too, So I got the Jackpod. Like yeah, she but other than that, she's like she's such a genius. Everything she asked me questions like nobody does that in therapy. She's like when

she asked me, like, wow, that's that's crazy. Are you responsible for everyone's happiness and like their life and how they turn out? Like it's like maybe, I'm like, but I could be, but I don't know. Yeah, she's good. I'm in a new thing is where I'm like, I'm looking for a therapist. It's hard. It's like dating. It is like dating, and that was I'm having no luck in that area either because I have you will I promise. I heard bumble is really good. I heard bumbles great.

I've tried core stories. Also, like there's still that the if your friend knows someone that works that works for me. I asked my friend. I was like, do you know any guys who are like really nice? I just want a nice guy. And then I met him. Was like, we're getting married. I love that story. How long have you been married for? Now? We've known each other now, we dated started six years ago. We had just had our date anniversary July one, and um, we've been married

for three years now. How's how's the marriage life? Is it different than you saw? No, it's like exactly what I thought. It's amazing. But it's better than I thought it would be. I thought I'd marry like some douche and I'd have to train him. But he's such a softy and he's so emotional and it's so good for us because he like cares extra Like on Mother's Day, he wrote me a card and then he'll write a

card from Riley Like he's he's a softie. He's really really cute, and he would write before had babies, he'd write every card from my dogs. It's like I have Mother's Day, mom, we love you, things to take care of us. I was like, yeah, he's one of those so like but now I feel like I have to preach to the world, like don't settle. There's really good

men out there, you know. It's hard. I feel like something that has blown my mind at college is that people only, at least what I've experienced, ask for Snapchat. Where did phone numbers go? That's so weird, And they don't even everything is on snap text or Snapchat, and no conversations are just photos. I'm like, I don't want to see your face. I'm not even on stampchat again.

I gotta get back on there. I feel like social media's ruined, ruined, ruined dating because my older brother, he's like almost thirty, and he's with his friends and his friends like, oh my god, that girl is so beautiful, Like I would do anything to date her, and he's like, gotta say hi, and he's like, what, I can't talk to her in person. It's like, I'll just like find her on Instagram. I was like, Ryan's like, oh, no, go for in person over a d M always just

d m R. Yeah. That's one of the things about social media where I find if I'm on it for too long, I need to get off. Yeah, we take breaks for sure. Something else that I want to talk to you about is that I know you've written songs for so many artists. We talked about this in the last episode. I was very curious to know. Is the songwriting process when you're writing for someone else, how does it differ from when you're writing for yourself. It's always different. Um,

recently I've been writing for uh. I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, screw it. I've been writing for Judges Siwa and she's my friend, so it's different that way where she's like like she comes over to my house and we have a full session and she gives me ideas and she writes with me. So like

in that world, I'm writing with the artists. But in other worlds, I'll have songs that are just banked that didn't really make sense with my album, and I have a bunch of extra ones um and but some are so special and they're like, oh God, that needs a home, and we always say, like that needs a really good home, so um, we'll pitch stuff like that. Or the producers I've written with who have those songs that aren't out there,

like can we pitch them? So I have like I think, um, a K pop girl I think is about to cut one of my extra songs that I had. I'm like, yes, more home for them to go to. Yeah, it's so random, and it's my dreams to write for more artists. So my team was like, this time around, let's let's write for you and then let's get take more sessions and just write for the artists. I was like, I would love to who's your dream artist to write for? It could be great for any artists right now, dead or alive.

Who would it be? Well? Nowadays, I just want to write a song with Ed Shearon because I think it'd be some medical and Britta mars Um. I would love to write a pop banger for Dualipa. I feel like they'd be easy and fun um and who else I love? I love Tate the new artist. Am I saying that right? Yeah? Tate McRae, Kate McGray, she was on the plodcast. She's so cool. I want to write for her. She's so cool. If anyone wants to sing my songs, that's a dream.

When you're writing for like your friends versus just having artists, how does that process differ. I'll just try to write like made the best song win I'll just try to write a really good song and then then we'll be like, oh, this sounds like her, you know how like dual lipos in that disco pop world. If I wrote a disco pop song like let's pitch out to do a you know, I would die to write like a Caribbean song for Rihanna, like a reggae song, And that's my real dreams. I

just want to hear her lullabies that I know. I'm trying to do a lulla by album too, like a kid's music, because I've seen there's like the market small, you know, for these kids have the perfect voice for it too, I know. And then I can make little YouTube videos and be like, Hi, we're gonna sing this song today. You can get like little calming bird animations of just like I'd be like, that's mama, I think this needs to happen, and you're right them. I haven't

heard of many like lullaby albums. Um, what's her name? One girl did it and she did great, The girl who Sings A a thousand years. I loved you for those. Christina Perry. Christina Parry, she did an amazing kids lullabye album that was really beautiful. So I gotta try to talk back. No, I gotta try to listen to that and take notes, because she nailed it with this entail

writing like children's songs are going off. I want to see she did like great covers too, but I want to do like originals, like I'm sick of um ashes ashes we all fall down, so dark, all these things are so dark. And the rockabye baby, like when the tree has a crat old weld rock and the what is the lyrics I've never heard when the bow bakes, the cradle will fall and debil come baby quite Lyndall, Like, what is scarier than that? Nothing? So I'm gonna rewrite them.

Why was that saying to us as a child that we're going to It's terrific. There's a lot of really scary ones, so I'm gonna try to rewrite those and make them like pop. Would you ever write a musical?

I would love to, Yeah, my dream Dream Dream one of my other bucket lists dreams besides writing, like all the music to an animated film that I write is not for then for it to go on Broadway, And then I'm just like, wow, my songs are just playing on Broadway, like, and I don't think I have the strength to go do eight shows a night and starting

it myself. But I'd love to just be known as like the songwriter, you know, kind of like a Sarah Brella's waitress moment following I'm just right behind Sarah following her would you ever read a children's book? Yes? After my pregnancy book already got it. It's gonna have textures, dude, I'm doing it all like you. The xtures. Yeah, that those are the big hits that My kid only likes those books and I don't know why because he can't see poor kids, he felt. Now, does he have to

wear the eye patches? No, we skipped right over that, I think because it's that bad um. And he just wears his glasses and it took him like two days, but now he wears them all the time if he because he forgets they're on. They're so cute. To check out my Instagram. I did a video of it. Oh I saw. I very much saw heartbreaking with the red hair and the blue glass. Oh yeah, oh yeah, they're like turquoise see through. I was like, oh, this is

exactly what I wanted. Who picked out those glasses. Honestly, they were the first ones we saw there and the guy Michael his great. But I gotta go get like eight more pair because we're gonna be on the cover of magazine soon, so I need to get the anti reflective ones. You know what I'm saying. Boys a star. I used to have the transition glasses where they turned into sunglasses when you go outside. See, that's sick. I

didn't know that was the thing. Goggles they're great. They turn into sunglasses when you're outside, and they get dark when you come back, and they get normal again. Tight tight, tight tight. He's also like see through a pale. He's so white, so when he goes in the sun, we're like hat glasses cover. So I'm very curious. You have the album coming out, you have the book. Are you working on anything else for just for your creative self,

just to fill you. I eventually want a tour because I haven't sang in front of a crowd and since before COVID, so I would love to see everyone again. Um, I'll have a baby this time, so it's going to be a game changer. UM I do want to tour. I think a will tour and then um, then I want to get pregnant on tour the tour bus. Yes, the tour bus. I will be pregnant, I hope. So yeah, I'm gonna start trying like a day one of tour, and we're like, we're gonna make a baby, you know.

So that's kind of great because he'd be like, you were conceived in this city, period, and then we should name them that city. Oh my god, I'm like Kim Kardassian. Oh if you named him, Oh my god, if you have your baby in Brooklyn, San Francisco, San Francisco, imagine San Francisco. Thank you so much, Megan, this made my day. I wish of you. I will literally do this whenever you want. You just call me. Thank you so much. All yeah, have me back anytime. I'm ready. Awesome