Featuring Liza Koshy

listen to this episode. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast, and I cannot wait to hear your feedback. Liza. I'm so excited that you're on my podcast and I'm excited to be on here. Dude. Congratulations, Thank you. The life you're living you've barely lived in and you've done so much, So that's congrats to you. Well, I've been watching you for years. Um. Yeah, Actually, I want to talk about a lot of things with you. I'm talking about Lies

on Demand season two. First, it is hysterical. Thank you. I think it is. Thank you. It's even better than season one. Thank you. Okay, See, that's all we want is just room for improvement. It's improving that room and we've improved. So thank you. What are you most proud of that? I'm telling I'm really honestly most proud of the fact that I got season three today. So yeah, today, literally they just announced it on my panel that there's the season three and that. Yeah, I'm so excited. I'm

so like, I can I'm glowing. You can't see me because it's a podcast. Oh wait, there's a little visual, a little visual, there's just dress um. But but yeah, came out today season three. Season two was amazing and so you saw that improvement. Season three is going to get even better. And that's a guarantee and a promise I will keep and a threat. Alright, any ideas what you want to happen for season three? Directing again? I directed in season two, and directing again would be amazing.

It was tough, but it was really fun challenge I was willing to accept. Again, Well, I find it really interesting because you created all your own content independently and then you're creating a show. What was that process like from doing something so isolating and then with a group of people, right, thank you for acknowledging that was very ling. I was on my own four years, like directing myself,

which I didn't realize that's what I was doing. So I was directing, editing obviously it was very aware of that. That took hours and days, but like filming myself, you know, creating these characters, scripting those characters, giving them personality trades, and then bringing them to life like that's I didn't realize that I was acting until I got onto a set and was told action and did something that felt

very familiar with, like I've been doing this. As weird as that is, like you would think, okay, girl, you know what you're doing. You're being intentional about it. But it was odd enough that I didn't really realize until I got into a whole new environment with a lot of people looking that I wasn't used to them looking, and I was able to do it. Still, how did you develop those characters? How did you come up with the idea for you know, Jet and Hell? That right?

Those are the classics. Classics. Man, oh thanks, so I told you I've been watching what you have. They say, hello, oh my god, I just made my day. Oh my god, I missed them too. Um they are on vacation I've been on vacation for a while. Um, but yeah, we've made Liza on Demand without them, and maybe they'll show up in season three. I don't know, I think they should. Okay, all right, well you could be in season three too. We'll talk down parents after this. Um, just to move

to California that anyways, we're gonna make this happen. Liza is on my side and this they're laughing. You can't hear them because they're not miked, but we got them. Oh and now she has a butter knife to her chest. We're we're a Tables fan. Um. But yeah, no, I it was wild to step into the role of Liza, a different version of Liza on Liza on Demand, and be this version of myself that isn't me but is me. I don't know. It's yeah, it's weird, it's it's She's okay.

So Liza Man is basically she's employed by her phone, right, which is what not too dissimilar to how I started was being employed. But good old Vine, good old baby. We got TikTok now do youse TikTok? I do? I use it to upload like my old videos that went on my Instagram stories and was only there for like twenty four hours, and then I was like, that is smart. We need to put it up there permanently. And yeah,

a place to go Oh wow, that is smart. I haven't I haven't gone down the TikTok hole of making them, but I've gone down watch. It's dangerous. It's very dangerous. It's a huge time sucker. It's good though, that's good fun. And they have tutorials too, so you can want to them how to do things. Yeah. I just love for TikTok. I just like the funny ones, like you know how like the skits because it reminds me of Vine mine, but it's longer. It's like what sconds I don't even know.

I just enjoy it. We did We talk about TikTok for thirty seconds enough for them to consider this a plug, maybe a future sponsor. Question mark Smart, Well, since your YouTube channel has been what really skyrocket? Did you besides Vine? What was that like when you realize, oh wait, I want to cross over into mainstream? Into mainstream? Good question. A lot of people ask about the transition this kid.

People ask about the transition from Vine into YouTube or like longer form content from sure to long form um mainstream though, because that's the challenge in itself to go to have like you're very unique in that you have that you can do that six second content, but then you can also do hosting the met Galla Red Carpet like black Out every time. I literally don't remember doing that,

so thank you for reminding me of UM. But it is a wild experience to like all of a sudden be um, you know, on a platform and talking to all these people that have admired for years and years and years, which is what what you do. And you have the utmost bravery and utmost unapologetic attitude about all things. So thanks for hosting the met Galla Red Carpet. You know, after I get lart um, I'll say something and annimal

let me go, but cancel culture as opposing UM. But but essentially, like I don't know, it's just a very similar feeling was induced for me personally of being able to perform in my own living room but then also on a set, but then also on a podium while narrating Lady Gaga removing eight dresses for the gala UM and it's just I love I love doing it all and it's really fun and I love challenging myself in

different ways that keep it new, fresh and exciting. Um. That's really why I kind of like transitioned over into mainstream, just to try it and kind of prove it experiment. You're in your twenties, I'm young, I'm fun, broken a hip, yet you're roaring. I was going to start a podcast and call it in my in the twine. You would be a great podcast. Thank you? Is it my voice? Because I didn't have a very soothing, very soothing boys thank you? I think so it just gets lower as

sweet talk. Yeah, I think that's what's so great about you know, lies on demand and all of that. And I just say, I do miss your YouTube videos. I miss them too, I love, I mean, and I'm getting more into there's a getting more into creating more of my own personal content on my channel again. So that will be have any more dollar Store videos? I there has to be. I'm still just as passionate. So I love that's what I tried. I kind of try to like night write wrap a nice little bow on dollar

store by creating a dollar store music video. It's not over, It's not over. No. Now there's too many good deals to not. I've never been to the dollar store fat, yeah, really never been? Are you okay? You're not living a full life? I guess not what dude? Okay, everything's a dollar like you go? I know, have you seen my video? I live for you? I live, I live vicariously through you in your videos. Okay, I'm glad, but get out more. I know. But like it's it's ridiculous you walk into

this store and you just don't understand. This is a plug for the dollar store. Two. I need to invoice them, but it sounds good. You don't understand, like lysol is the same? Do you actually shop there in your real life? Yes, on a day to day I mean when I okay, when I'm not on a day to day to day. I'm not pulling an Ellen, And I don't like I've never stepped footing a target like in years. Not like that. But got it. I haven't been to a dollar shore

maybe no? Wait five months? Five months? Okay, you remember when I went to one in Canada because it was even cheaper than a dollar do how much was it like seventy eight cents? I don't know the conversion, but

it was cheaper. That is crazy. Well, since you took your break off YouTube, I know it was for your mental health because because we all have that, because we all have that thing, um, we all that was there a certain moment when you realize You're like, I need to take this break or was it like an overall arching just like there was a little bit of a build, A little bit of a build, A bit of a build.

I think that's that's And to go back to what you were saying, isolating, it was very isolating what I was doing. So I was doing everything on my own, creating these characters on my own. I didn't really have anybody to creatively brainstorm with, um and and that was my own doing, right because I was like, I have to do this by myself. I've only done it by myself. It's all people want to see. It's just me by myself. And you did all I did for a long time.

And then I slowly started like eventually once I took that break and took some time to breathe and and and regroup with myself, ourselves in the different version of myself that I had been that people loved and was trying to like, Okay, I can be me now and be be be loved for that too. I don't have to be just yet or jess Alga. There's a whole

like unfolding of my brain. Um, but it was nice to like regroup with myself, give myself that time that I deserved and understand that, Okay, cool, I have other priorities and other things that I really want to like try, and I want to be unafraid and unapologetic about that. So I gave myself that space and created that space in my heart so that I could like give it to others and to other projects and bring them to life.

So Lies on Demand season three would not have happened had it not been for the breather that I gave myself. And I'm just happy that I made that choice I made then to be where I am now. Well, what advice do you have to do that? Because that's right, it's a scary thing. It's so hard. It's so hard, especially to to be comfortable with the uncomfortable. If we're gonna get deep here, they're getting deep with Sammy. Um,

I couldn't rename the podcast honestly. Yeah, it was getting getting comfortable with uncomfortable with something that I've always like strived to do. Then a job that I do kind of thing is just like testing my limits and wondering like, wow, how can I do this or do it differently than it's been done before. So that's exciting for me. But UM, it was more so just like understanding that it's okay to branch off and try new things and be all right with evolving and not sticking to script that I

wrote for myself. UM or being you know, like I say, like YouTube, you kind of create this box for yourself, like what you can you can expect as a creator, like what what characters I'm gonna do or what sketches I'm gonna do, or if I only do sketches or only do your characters or only do myself vlogging, And then to experiment outside of that. Um, sometimes your audience

isn't the most receptive, but does that really matter? Because you also want to be so love, like show love to yourself and appreciate yourself and and and understand that you get to do what you want to do and

hopefully others will appreciate you for doing that. UM. And that's how it originally all started with me coming from a place of like being passionate and excited about what was what I was doing, and when I lost that, people could tell, like you can see that through a video, um, when someone kind of like loses that initial excitement that they had. And so I felt that a little bit, and I didn't want to force it anymore. I wanted to just be very candid about, Hey, I'm going through stuff.

I don't feel they need to blog it, but here I am, and I'm gonna keep drying new things and now in a much better place where I'm drying those things. I mean, I think that's when it's very I'm like, I've been through that too, Like I remember when you post I remember when you posted that video talking about your break. I was like, in the thick of it, just like high school is just like stressful in itself, and I haven't now with all the social media's Honestly,

it's not easy. I have to shut my phone off at some point, right, Good for you for doing that though. Yeah, I think we're similar in the sense that social media both really intensified. Is that a word? That is a word? I didn't know it at seventeen, but yes, yeah, it really increased it. Um, But yeah, I think it's so cool that you took the break and you're talking about it.

I think I think you're very insightful and have a lot of wisdom, just like just like when you talk thank you so much a girl, if you only knew what was going on? Is that my because I think everybody has that little self doubt of like thinking like I don't know what I'm saying. The words that are coming out of my mouth are la la la la, like I'm not making sense, and that's that's that tends to be like the like little downward spile of like

social anxiety or anxiety in general. But like, thank you for crushing that, I'm healed well, Like especially when you have like such a big following and then people are putting in their own opinions and that that we must I can't even imagine how much of that did not help, right, right, And a lot of people just you know, placing their

own or kind of hurt people. Hurt people. So like a lot of people going through their own thing tend to project, um, you know, something that they see somebody else doing that they wish they could do kind of thing, And that's that's a tough thing. And I just empathized for those people, and like I would see hate comments, um and just like took it really personally at one point and then understood that maybe they're taking everything personally and that kind of sucks. That would have been in

that place. That was me in the beginning of high school because like a bunch of people talk about like everybody, and so I would take it so personally and it's kind of just distinguishing. Yeah, um, my brother is very has a lot of wisdom, So so I'll talk to him. He'll be like to like, don't even like he's nineteen, he's got a lot of wisdom. Two years, those two years, those two years a lot of good advice they do, right, I just can't imagine, Like, you've been in the public

eye for the past. What when did you start? Run started une. I just had this realization it's been seven years. How weird is that? So we moved out to l A. You were in high school. I was a junior in high school. I was your age. I posted my very first mine. Do you remember what that was? I was climbing on top of a car. There's nothing, nothing inspiring

at all. Did you ever expect it would lead to this no idea, no idea that would lead to this beautiful, insightful conversation with a young seventeen year old who's going to flourish when she moved to California. We're gonna make it happen, just like trying to really get you to kill what's going to happen? But um, it's that's that's crazy. You never know where it's gonna end up. I mean, how old were you when you started everything? Uh? Fourteen? Yeah?

Three years? Man? That's did you expect to be where you are now? Not even not even six months ago? No idea? And how do you did you have there your future in mind? Like did you intend to like like have all this turn out for you? Did you kind of just go day by day? You just kept working, working,

organ it went day by day. But also I had to put my energy into something else besides school because that just gave me anxiety within itself because because of my learning disability, So like when I was at like a mainstream school and they didn't know how to teach me, I would just it would really increase that. And so I put my energy into this stuff and when I

was anxious, I so really weird coping mechanism. But I taught myself keynote and how to like a dream, podcasts that idea and here we are, Here we are man. What like society, I guess would have seen as like a weakness you turn into your superpower. That's cool that I'm trying to do this. Yeah, that's okay, that's beautiful. Let's be real. It's nice, plug. I was waiting for the moment. I appreciate it. Is it ever hard when everybody has I can only imagine is there ever hard

when everybody is just speculating everything about your life? Because you know, one of the things that I just as a watcher of YouTube for years, you know, people have a perception of you. What is a misconception that you want to clear up? God, thank you, that's a beautiful question. Do you see That's okay? Hold on, here's an inside of the world. My publicist is in the corner of the room clutching her soul because no one has ever just been so human with me and asked me that

question before in an interview. So thank you for seeing that I'm made out of skin and flesh and bounce. That's nice. Yeah, that's really cool. I wow, um, that's that's deep. But I think a huge misconception is that maybe I'm not human. And I think that's a big misconception that, like a lot of people in the industry or in the media, people forget it. People forget it, and that at some point you kind of just become an accessory of sorts to people's lives. I don't know,

it's it's tough. I feel like so much has to do with those myths, like so much of of you know, people's mental health and the reason why they have to, you know, take care of themselves, meaning like people in the industry have to take care of themselves. So so intense about you know, self care is that there's everything feels so heightened because everybody's watching them and and you know,

just assuming these things about them. If you're not telling your story, then people are assuming that story, and they're feeling in the words for when you don't speak and when you're silent, they expect you to be. Actually literally had someone comment the other day like, you you can't be silent anymore. You need to tell the world. You're tell the world you're a bad bitch, otherwise you're not one. And I was like, that's so so aggressive, So a guys girl, I was like, I don't even know what

are you referring to? What am I? Silent? Twenty three? I'm sorry? Your expectations are so high, right, Like you're expected to be Like there's we have like knowledges on our fingertips, right, like we're living in a day and age that everything we're expected to know absolutely everything. If you're not well spoken about everything, or no facts are evidence about everything you speak of and are able to

back yourself up, that you are just a failure. Like there's either for failure, there's no gray matter in between, or you just living life, just living life and you're just not Yeah, you're just living life and learning right right.

So I think this conception is that where there's this idea of a celebrity and what we hold them to and expect from them, and those expectations can either you can either they can crush someone and and feel like they're not like living up to that and that they're not enough forever feel like failing and fueling that story that everybody has going through their heads that they're not enough and not this funny enough for smart enough for

people just because you have followers and does not change that. No, that's a that's a number. And as as grateful as I am to the to the audience that you know, gave me the platform to try whatever, it's still it still doesn't mean that, like you're it doesn't reflect your self worth, their self love that you have for yourself that is truly like at your core what you're able to spread to everybody else. So it's just it's interesting.

It's interesting that there's this whole fantasy behind celebrities when they are just human and they feel so like like, that's what I'm so curious about because I felt like when you so publicly went through a breakup so publicly that video was sixty million views? Is that heart? Is? How difficult is that when you're already going through something personally and then everyone's putting in their opinions and you maybe can't date someone publicly because they're like they're not

as good. It's so and so now that's why in texting back earlier ago, but that's that's right, You're you're so right. That was something. There was a decision that both David and I made what two years ago now, I think two years ago, two years like that's what I was saying, yeah, and and and put that out there just for our community, right like people knew us to make videos together, they knew us to you know,

always be with each other. Obviously we were dating, and once we put that video out, it was just simply just to let everybody know, yeah, we're not together at the moment, and when this is, you know, what our life update is. And then it just took off and it was like this new age of being in relationship and the expectations you have to have and release your relationship up dates. So that was something I've never been like a vlogger of sorts, right Like that was kind

of like a world that I lived through. David and mine was more so on like script side and me always like creating videos of my own characters of my right. Um so that was a very like all of a sudden, I'm me and being vulnerable and open about who I

am and what I'm going through as a human. Everyone just went like that, being like the one time I opened up and then having that much attention, I was like, is that was would you ever have another public relationship or is it just private from now on because you know about Okay, you don't know about him private. It's always chat. It's always a chat. He's always at a friend or something. Probably no, but I mean I don't know. We'll see, We'll see where life takes me. But at

the moment, no, I'm not dating anybody. If anybody wants to do something about that, same here and never been. Yeah, I've never been in a relationship. Was David your first relationship? No? Really, Like I had other relationships online and was online at the time, but nobody really like knew, and like I hadn't really started YouTube and the whole snowball of social media really yet. Um. But yeah, how about you? Would you be public about a relationship you had online? I mean, like,

it depends dependents. I don't know. I haven't I'll talk after this, but yeah, it depends what what what would

it depend on? Uh, the kind of person and the reasons, like the kind of person like future husband or like you know, just like someone that um I respect and respects to me and then we have like if yeah, like I don't know, I haven't thought about it because it's never happened, right, because I think even now more than ever, you see what happens exactly if you are in a relationship in your public about and how enjoyable

that can be. Because it was. It was amazing to like share all those experiences online with David and create. But at the same time, when it did unfold, it was a lot. It was a lot of attention at a place that I felt very vulnerable and felt like it was like, oh, I'm being so open and everybody's seeing me as they did and lies on demand, Yeah, as they didn't lives on the man. That was kind of like a metaphor of me being like, fun want me to bear at all you actually get in that episode, Well,

I had on head on pasties. Oh my god, a little mercan, which if you don't know what that is, it's like a little thing like a loan cloud of can either be covered in for or not. It was not, And I, yeah, I beared it all on the city streets of downtown. Man, thank you. Interesting interesting day, interesting day for a lot of people looking outside of their apartment windows. Yeah. Yes, well I'm really interested in like

the business side of things in a creative aspect. Yeah, what was the process of creating your own show, and just like the business side, like pitching it, coming up with it, because I think that's not talked about people to see a show, it's not talked about. I just like to acknowledge the fact that you did such a beautiful transition of conversation right there. Thank you for that. You're brilliant producer, beautiful mind. But the business side of

all that creating that teach me. Um. So God. I wish I could give you like a cram jam session, but it is so much better from experience. So I'm going to have to ask you to make a show okay, and you're going to enjoy it because I can just tell you, but to have let me know when casting

call is so I can become an audition presa. But basically it goes from like concept and like understanding, like what exactly it is that we want to the message we want to convey and the story we want to tell, and like what hasn't been told before and what needs

a platform to uplift that story? Um. And that's that's where we kind of like dove into the world of like gay economy and social media and and not social media so much, but gig economy of employing yourself and being your own self made, self employed, independent of worker. But that's tough to like build your own schedule and be this. But that's that's kind of the story that we started with, and it was a very broad and then what would be the adventures of the girl that

is employed by her phone? That? Did you come up with the idea? And like did you how did you pitch it? Like what was the I'm the executive, what did you say for the show? Um? The meeting that we had actually a creative brainstorm with my two cro

co creators of So Fun. They're So Fun. Deborah Kaplan and Harry Elfon are brilliant minds and it's too um that made can't hardly wait And you have no idea what that is because you're seventeen And I have no idea what that is because I'm funny the right But your parents knew it. Yep, they're nodding, they're nodding. Everybody's adding off camera, um, but yeah, they they did josing the pussycat dolls or pussycats um um, And like they're

they're just brilliant. They've they've known how to make you know, an emotional through line and the show the some amazing like broadening of a character. So they helped me defind who lies that was going to be in the show, and basically the concept came from their minds of the

whole gig economy. Mine was my original concept was, Oh, I would love to see like a girl enter a workplace and understand the logistics of her entering it as a man and as a woman, and I wanted to know, like what would the difference be, and that that kind of being like a right And that was like a pitch for one episode that was like I was like, this is I just really want to talk about this, um, Like I want to know what it's like if if a girl were to end at the workplace and how

she would be treated differently. And that's actual, Like there's an actual article that came out and said a woman changed her email to a man's name, and we included that fact in the show, but changed it to a man's name. Um, and she received a ton more work and was taken a lot more seriously and actually received

responses to her emails. And it was I forget I can't give like proper details, but it was so interesting and that was like a wake up call for me to like, I want to tell that story, but how And they kind of helped me maneuver, Like what we could do is like maybe this girl could be working in the gig economy and maybe she could change her profile photo and maybe that could be one episode of this huge arc of like this girl working from her

phone and what adventures that takes her on. And so season three, who knows if that she's still going to be employed on her phone. I don't know who write it tonight because I just found out we had a season. Would you ever create another show or a movie? Yes? You would? Okay, I would love to do a movie. I think that'd be so fun. I would love to direct the movie. I'm not in. I think that'd be

crazy cool. And dreamcast dream casts aray. Al Right, it's brilliant and I think it's just really cool what she did with Awkward Black Girl on YouTube. Its cool how she just expanded that into Insecure on HBO plug Um. But yeah, I think he's very amazing. I who else? God's good? You fine? All right? I haven't acted, but sure, I'll give it a shot. I think he should, all right, I think you should. All right, um, especially if we're

gonna move to California. Yes, let's make a tally of how many times Liza says, Okay, that was the third time doing six. Okay, keep keep you on six. Feeling not um, but yeah, I think you say. It's a raising great company, man, this is tough Zach Effron. Why not him? I saw you, I saw you do that gym time with him, and I'm just like, I'm jealous.

You got to work out with Zach Efron so many like high school musical references that I made, and um also Charlie sat cloud offferences in every movie, every movie ever that he's been in. But is he just like such a sweet human, like as much as you want to be like like, you're like, oh, he's so sweet and kind and genuine like present, like, it's so nice to see the human behind the facade that you. High school musical is my childhood. I had the Tea Troy necklace.

I did, I probably did. I got I dressed up as Gabrielle to the premiere of the third one, No Way have You? I mean Vanessa Hudgents never met her. I would love for her to be on this podcast. I really enjoy Vanessa. Let me if you want to come on and as like, come on in zac Efron, Hi, I got you. I put in a good word. Okay, but they say hi, and but I think they would also be in my show too. Oh with them, that would be yes. I think that would be great. I

think that'd be pretty great. And I worked with some pretty amazing people already, like uh Kamico, Glenn Travis Goals, my roommates in the show and my roommates in real life. They're brilliant. Also, I am so excited for the movie work it to come out. I know you filmed it with Jordan and Sabrina. First of all, Jordan Jordan was my first interview and he's actually came out an episode right because he's a Disney boet, right. He was my first interview when I was thirteen, and he introduced me

to Radio Disney Go. Jordan's something good dude. He's just a good dude. It's good dude. He's just yeah, he's a good dud. He's so supportive on set too, because he knew it was like my first movie movie. His voice is like, I know more than money, he's gonna be on Broadway? As do you have an heaven? I am like friends and friends? We have friends and Sabrina

She's what was that like? Working with these two completely creative people as well as yourself and then doing dancing, which if you've seen your Instagram, you got it, you got a movie because if you're just dancing, are is that? That's why I'm like, put yourself out there when I'm when a kid is like, yeah, I want to do this too, I'm like, wow, do you if you're eighteen seventeen? Okay, go ahead, Well you were thirteen or fourteen, but either way,

I thought you did it well. Like I didn't realize that putting myself out there and like dancing on my stories, Like was my audition tape for that movie? Pretty much? Did you teach? Do you ever take dance classes? You're really good? No? No, I took dances dance classes as

a kid growing up. So like I was like four when my mom enrolled me in the classic Piano or like, so I went for l A when I was a kid and then did hip hop when I was in high school and it was like very Texas I was on the drill team, so I did like the halftime dances and the kicks with the way too sparkling. The splits a classic do that do that at the end of everything I do. But I feel, yeah, just stretch boom crander. Is your body just so used to it off?

Care I'm gonna pull away from Mike, pull my hip out the place? No way? Yeah, so I now have to go take care of that. Oh No, we're fine. We did the movie. The movie is done. But there is a scene the movie we're gonna be like, oh, that's where she tore it. So yeah, I do have a little tear in my hip right now, but we're fine. We can do work at two. That's so oh my god. That makes me sad. We're good. Physical therapy great. Physical therapy is great. Right, I think you're just so you're badass.

First of all, I just want to say because I think it's so cool how much you do and the diversity in which you do it. You're working with Michelle Mama. Yeah, and we create change. And tell me about how that came about. When Michelle Obama text you you have Michelle Bama's number, No, I don't. At all know God and her teams after me right now because I said that she just changed your number right now because it sounds no, no, she did not get my fantasy that I'm living, telling

it before I tell the truth. Okay, the truth is Um, it's not as fun as it sounds. But my my team sent me an email fun story. But but essentially it was like my my I'd worked with creators for Changement before. I did a whole video about mental health and talked about my anxiety and being open about that, and that was another turning point for me of being open and candid online. You interviewed Obama and then interview our President Barack Obama wild um, and that was so

that was like the audition to me. This is Michelle Obama, which is very exciting, especially if you listened to Becoming on the audiobook. This is also a plug because it's amazing. She just I just have to ask, is she just the most amazing she is? Is she everything I would imagine she and more? Like she exceeds all expectations. You guys can't see me, but I'm blushing just hearing that makes me so happy. Not the cosmetics, Okay, I want

to get into that. That was so good by Liza gave me a box of her freaking beauty sessimy, but it's I appreciate. Oay, I want to open this. Okay, this is same. Oh. I know you can't see a visual, but you can just listen to her vanilla vibes. Yeah. I like the name smells as good as it sounds. Body butter and it's so smooth and rich. So what made you want to become ambassador? I don't know, because like you're doing everything, it's so great. I thank you.

I love trying different things and this has been such a step in a different direction or industry for myself that I've always kind of wanted to enter because growing up I had of some crazy skin and this is this was I hope it can be a solution for a lot of young girls that can skip all the steps and dermatology appointments that I went to, dermatologist appointments

that I went to. My mouth is open papie and strawberry seeds, scrub facial masks, scrub your face and then you leave that on and it like hydrates it so it's exfolientating and then it hydrates it right afterwards. And I know it's for sensitive skin, which I have, don't we all we all sensitive nowadays? Um, It's it's fantastic and it is like a it's a cruel degree love that there we go, come on, never tested on animals, it looks better on humans, and it's it's it's just amazing.

It's all around wholesome line. And I get to know the humans behind it, and like I'll tell you, the humans behind it exceed expectations to They're good people and they just like, that's what we need more in the world. We need the world. What I'm saying, like please, And then they're they're all so good and they're all like brilliant minds who are just striving to lessen the amount of packaging and their products. There you have to lessen

the amount of plastic there. You know. They takes steps, right, because there's there's only so much that we can do, but we're working on doing it and that's three steps and gentle care. But god, yeah, this is so exciting. I'm trying this body butter now hit it, hit it. I'm going to get me a seal on top, because that's how we do I like it. Clean. We love

it clean, and it's all clean. It's entirely clean. A lot of the I think I can claim this vegan, so hey, people care so much about going vegan on the inside. Can you guys hear that smr there? That's her dipping her fingers. How much do I use? Just? Oh my god, it's good time right wait, yeah, it's thick. But like people have this misconception that like clean beauty isn't always good or pigmented or you know, thick or sparkling or whatever they want it to be. But yeah,

you're doing yourself. Oh my goodness, glowing. Yeah, it's good on the hands. I put this on my face. You can, I mean, well it's body butter, but you can literally use anything like your body like skin true is a body gun. You do what you want. It's all clean. So like I've tested all of their products because they're not own animals, but but I've done it all the products everywhere, and they're multi use. Like it's multi purpose.

You can use their like I crayons on your cheeks and create designs, or you can use the body butter on your face. It's fine. Sugar scrab I think it's in there. Wait is it? If not, I will send it over to you. Is that it? Okay? I have more to send you that move more. There's a sugar scrub in the shower, and my elbows have been crusty my entire life and now they're not. That is incredible, removed like three layers of skin that needed to go

years ago. I just want to say, like, all I've been using is like I take coconut oil and then like brown sugar and it's like its own scrub. So I'm excited to use this. Okay, that's cool, and I like that's that's brilliantly like d I when I'm gonna be using this, but say what does that? And if you're ever feeling amazing same, what can do that for you? So it's all natural products really, cocon oil and sugar

brown sugar are in the ingredient. Smells so good. And I'm not just saying this because you're in front of me. There's fregran so that's not added any fregrance. Sometimes fragrance can be an irritant to your skin, So a lot of added fregnancys fragrances when you're like bumping out your face washing yeah about it now, Like it's exciting to like move forward to be more eco conscious just in general. Um, but like to be about it about your face too, that's the thing people see and that was a real

big insecurity for me growing up. So I want to help any girls now, um, just like feel more confident in the skin that they're in because they're in it for life. Well, you're very passionate about a lot of things and that you're going to appreciate this transition. Let's talk about your passion for activism. Yes, I am active, you're active? Yeah, correct, Yeah, no, I'm I'm excited to also align with Michelle Obama again, that's my friend, um for when we all vote. Campaign, I'm about to vote

for the first time. I'm so. I'm so. I've been taking you as government class and US history both, so I am educating myself. I know we talked all but the Supreme Court of voting, the taxes. I'm all educated on this now. Dude. I'm so proud of you because I was learning that and did not absorb it properly. But I'm so excited to vote, Like, I'm so excited.

What made you so excited? So many countries are not you're not able to share your voice, and I think it's so cool, especially at eighteen, and I think if we don't use that, that's just right. I'm so proud. I'm so excited. We just man, I'm so proud of you, girl, Like that's I'm just so empowering yourself. Did you feel soft? My hands were my God, thank you for that full

plug of course you. Um. I'm proud of you for just being so excited and empowering yourself to like learn so cool, especially now we are living I think in such a scary but incredible time in history that I can't wait to look back and say, I voted for this, I did what was right, because like what we're going through it's like a movie right right right, And you're gonna tell your grandkids in future, like, yeah, I voted. Girl. If I don't pop out a child that has the

same mind as you, girl, just dryin. You are so brilliant. I'm so glad though that this is the future of the future is bright and you are voting and you're making sure your boys is heard and you recognize all that that's all you can do that you can have to do your part and so many getting your friends together and like having a voting party because I really appreciate that, honestly, that would be fun. Okay, make it Wait?

What if you like didn't event, someone to tell you something real quick called the prom challenge right now and it's going on. It's MTV is partnering with when we all vote, and as a coach when we all vote, I can tell you all the details if you you get your school together to like get crazy, get like partied up about voter registration and like do it so creatively,

which I know you can do. Um, they're going to be able to cover your prom and like have talent at your prom, And that would be so dope to have you get rewarded for being excited about something that you're already going to do. So why not even why not do it? Why not do it? Emailing my principle after this, do it up to five dollars per prom or excited for problem I've been looking forward to for some It's a good mixture. It's a good mixture. Eighteen

What do you trying? Eighteen? Always the eleventh, What if I just did a dress a little like ballots? Because that also so sometimes, so like if that would be kind of fun and you'd make it so easy on me to choose the winner of that challenge, because I'm going to help with that. All right, Um, if you do a problem word, I'll put it a good word. Awesome text, Michelle, all right, so you just change it number again. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming

on my podcast. I'm so excited. I'm so excited for you and just the immense amount of growth that you've already experienced at the stage, but also just to see where you go and I will catch up with you a year from now. How about that. That'd be really cool. Let's do it. I want to follow up see where we've both done, right right. Oh, you're gonna you're gonna talk that whole time. We're gonna do so much. I'm so excited for you, so thank you for having me.

I'm so honored that year because I've been watching for literally five years. Okay, mutual stocking NATO. Yeah perfect, Thanks dude. Thank you guys so much for listening to this week's episode with the podcast. I hope you liked it. Thank you Lisa so much for coming on. Make sure you watch listen stay tuned to all of her projects. She

has a lot of them coming up. Make sure you follow me on Instagram that's at It's Sammy j I T S S A M M Y j A y E. And I also recommend you follow our podcast account, which is Sammy j dot Let's be real because we have a lot of fun posts and some of the police coming in the way. And don't forget to follow lies A Coachy on all of her socials if you don't already, It's Liza Cochi. She's pretty incredible and as last I would say bye,