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Featuring Lindsey Stirling

Oct 13, 202236 minSeason 4Ep. 2
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In this episode Sammy Jaye chats with violinist, songwriter and dancer Lindsey Stirling! After being eliminated from America’s Got Talent with some brutal criticism and suffering from anorexia and depression, Lindsey Stirling picked herself up and has been constantly innovating with her love of the violin. Lindsey is now releasing her second Christmas album and touring while performing trapeze during her show. We talk all about her evolution, creative outlets, DIY's and much more!

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Lindsay, I am so honored that you're coming on my podcast here today. You the way you've approached your career and the way you've been so innovative in creating new ideas in your space has been so inspiring for me. And the way you reimagine things. I just want to start off with, how did you first fall in love with the violin? Well, thank you first of all, thank you for having me, and thanks for your very kind words. Um, I fell in love with the violin when I was

really little. My parents loved classical music and they were always playing, you know, these old classical records in our home, and so that's just what I fell in love with. I was exposed to it, it's what I knew, and I really wanted violin lessons when I was six, and so you have those violin lessons. And was there ever a time where you stopped playing violin or has it just always been something that's been an outlet for you.

It's always been an outlet. There were times, like in high school or in my teen years, when I like kind of started to fall out of love with it a little bit here and there and went through lulls, but I never quit. You know, it's always been a part of my life. I love that. So I have to ask, how many violence do you own? I've got a whole closet full of them. It's bad, um, but I probably have like seventeen at this point. Bad or amazing one or the other. I don't know. You know,

that's a really good point. They're covered in sparkles and lace and all kinds of fun things, so it's amazing you. So you're telling me you have bedazzled violence. I do. I have some really pretty ones that I get to tour with, and like, I just got a new one that I'm really excited to decorate and figure out how I want to make it feel Christmas Eve for this tour because I decorate them myself. So I'm like, what am I gonna do? What craft d I y queen? We love that, we love it? So do you glue

the rhinestones on yourself? When I get them bedazzled. I've actually sent them to like professional bedazzlers, because as we know in l A, that's the thing you have to So yeah, I wanted the real people to do the real job. But if it's like something more unique, like I just made one for a music video where there's like little skeleton bones and all this stuff on the violin and I made I made that myself because that

was like a fun craft night. I was like, I'm gonna put on a rom com and I'm gonna make my skeleton violin. What rom com? Oh? I think I watched um Maid of Honor? How was it? Oh, it's so cute if you haven't seen it. I'm always for a good rom com and a good crafty project. Yes, your girlf my own heart. We need to get together sometime and just craft and calm it up those nights. A good craft night with a good rom com. It's ideal. It is. I'm in college and I'm like, that's my

ideal night. Just be with the friends, do a face mask crafting. Yes, what better way to live life? Love it. I know you were on America's Got Talent, which I think is so in such an interesting part of your story because though you didn't win it and you got eliminated, you kept going. It's always hard when you have a setback to keep pursuing what made you keep going. After you're on TV and then millions of people watch you get voted off because I can't imagine going through something

like that. Yes, you know, it wasn't only getting voted off. It's not like it's just so you didn't make it to the next round. It was so humiliating, Like I got told just the harshest critique I've ever received, like in front of millions of people. I was told that I sounded like rats being strangled and that you know, it just didn't have it. It took and it was

so embarrassing. Um. And you know, from that experience though afterwards, I remember I did think to myself, I don't think I could ever get on the stage again like this. I don't think this is for me. Um. But then there was this like a little inner voice that whether you call it your spirit, your gut, your instincts, whatever the universe, I think it's a I think it's like my spirit and God like telling me that like there's more,

there is more for you, don't give up. It just wasn't right then, and so I kind of changed the wording of what they said. Rather than not good enough, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna just add, you're not good enough yet because my performance really wasn't great, like if I'm going to be honest, like I kind of earned the critique I got. But no one moment of your life should ever define you. No one performance should ever define how you're going to perform for the

rest of your life. Yeah, it wasn't my best performance. I was so nervous and I was new at this craft. But I put in the time and I realized I just wasn't good enough yet. And then when I got back on a stage, like, you know, a year and a half later for my first show, like my first show, Um, I was ready. Then I had put in the time

and it was a different story at that point. And so yeah, I think there's that experience taught me so much about grit getting up after you fall, and that sometimes you know it just isn't the right time or place, and that doesn't mean it that forever is not the

right time or place. Absolutely, And I've seen so many of your interviews and I love the way you you view things and the positive spin you take on it, because I feel like the way we talk to ourselves is so important, and it's the energy that we give out and it's also the energy that we received, and it's something that I'm definitely I struggle a lot with I'm trying to figure out the whole self love journey.

It is a process. And I was wondering, what it's hard to continue sometimes and to keep going with the positive talk when you're not feeling so positive. So what advice do you have for you know, continuing with gratitude and just keeping that those good vibes around yourself, you know? I think that, Um, when it comes to like positive self talk and all of that, it's so much more about the overall journey than the moment. Like sometimes you're not gonna win in the moment, but it's about learning

to train your mind for the overall journey. And um, when I was in college, actually I was, I was in a place where I hated myself and I was so negative and I was I was then rexic, I was depressed. I truly hated myself, and I finally woke up one day to realizing I used to not be like this. I'm sick of hating myself and I deserve everybody deserves better than this, And um, I didn't win every moment from there on out. It's really hard to

like force that positive self talk in your head. It's it's almost impossible to believe it when you say it when you're in a state like that. But it was through slowly training myself and saying the positive things over and over and over again, even though I didn't believe them, looking in the mirror at my eyes and saying like, I love you, and you are strong, you are smart, you are you are you know all the things that we want to believe about ourselves that I didn't believe.

But after you say it enough, it's like you're rewiring your brain. After you write in a gratitude journal enough, Like if you do that every night, you are rewiring and strengthening neuropathways in your mind that you may not feel like it's winning in the moment because you're like, I don't believe this as I say it or as I write it. But the more you do it, the more those become, the stronger neural pathways than the negative ones. Just like working out muscles um and your mind will

naturally start to use those pathways. I mean, it's an actual, like biological there's a science behind it. It's a science and it's not just like, oh, well, believe in yourself and you'll feel better. It's like, no, you're actually creating you know, pathways and biology and science and so anyways, I'm a big believer in even if you don't think you're winning the moment, you're creating your future and it

will change your life and it changed mind. I that is so important to hear because I also feel like I know a lot of people in college listen, listen to this podcast, and college is just it's a it's a mess up. Social experiment is what I've had to realize about being there from high school in a random place and you're like socialized and see what happens, and

it really and I think social media exascerbates it. And you know, now we have you know, always comparing yourself and there's body image issues that you know, it's so hard to just be nowadays, you know and just get through. And I know you're you're so active on social media. Have you found that balance where you know you can still prioritize your mental health and keep that the priority while still being on an app where you know you get can you can compare yourself a lot too. Yeah,

I think it's always going to be a battle. It's just a reality that we have to live with, and we're almost like in the middle of the science experiment because it's also new still, you know, and everybody and it's always changing, and so it's like hard to figure out constantly what the best balances, um But I find that it's healthy to figure out your own limitations. Like there are certain things that I thought, I, you know, that I would like maybe follow on social media, and

then you realize that doesn't make me feel good. You know, when I see this person's post nothing against them, but I'm not saying that they did anything wrong. It's just like when I see the kind of content they're posting, it's not making me feel good. And it could be because I'm not in a good place and nothing about them, but it's like those are the posts that for now I'm gonna mute, you know, like really curating your feed because it's inevitable we're all going to be on these feeds.

But like learning to set boundaries for yourself. Learning like if you have to put a timer that allows you to only look at the app for a certain amount of time, if you need that, do it, you know, learning to create boundaries in a world where there are

no boundaries anymore. I think is so so important, and every once in a while take a little bit of a like hiatus from social media where I'm like, I'm only going to get on to post and I'm not gonna use it as a um consumer for a week, you know, I'm just we're gonna get on and post, not look at anything or even have someone else, like

have my assistant post it for me. Like, I think it's really healthy sometimes to almost do like a bit of a fast from it, to like detox, because it is a like it is a bit of a toxin to get all that in you every day. It is. And I've noticed I turned my notifications off from Instagram and all that, and that has helped tremendously because it's not getting the ding for it anymore. So it's only

when I choose to go on it, you know. It's like those little things that I've noticed really with me personally, do you have any like go to when you're not feeling your your best, like go to self care? You're like, oh, this will make me feel better. Let's see what does my go to self care? UM. Lately, I've really gotten into breathwork, which is something I have you done it. I've heard so much about it from so many people, and I hear it's incredible, but I've never done it.

It's really powerful, it's and it's the kind of thing again that like when I first did it the very first time, I was kind of like, all right, that was kind of relaxing, cool, Like I don't know what everybody's the big hype is. But then as I kept doing it, and now it's like a daily practice. I I do it every morning for like, oh like ten to fifteen minutes. It's not a breaking my schedule, but I've just found it has made an immense difference in my anxiety because I am once a day like calming

my nervous system. Again, it's not just this woo boo stuff. It's science, like you're actually changing the chemistry and your body when you're oxygen eating yourselves and taking this time to like reset your nervous system. It's something I do before I go on stage every night now so that those like those like adrenaline pumps that I'm getting that are so strong and sometimes cause me to be a little bit out of whack when I first step on stage.

It it literally just resets everything. So I don't know, breathwork has been a huge, like maintenance practice in my life right now. But also if I feel like I'm starting to have an anxiety moment, just that reset of being able to do some of these simple like even if you know, a simple breath that I do often is where you take three breaths in and one breath out, so just like, oh fun, that's fun to do that. Yeah,

it's kind of fun. You do it to the beat of a song, um that's in four or four time, and it like works perfectly, and it's amazing how how much it has helped my anxiety. So that's my go to Okay, I need I have anxiety too, and O c D. So I need to get on this because I know what it's like having a nervous system out of whack. Are always in fight or flight, So I need to calm I need to calm her sometimes we all do. And I think our world is riddled with anxiety these days, you know, And how is it not?

How is it not some of us worse than others. But it's like you know, anything, you know, I don't know. I've tried medication at times, that breath work is the most helpful thing I've ever done. That's so interesting because I have been really trying to figure out what works for me and you know, maintaining that and it's it's hard to continually work on it. But something I've been doing that my friend recommends is I named my anxiety um. Her name is Jojo Um, and I'm just like, Jojo,

We're good, Jojo, stop it. We're so good, Jojo, you don't need to mess things up for me. And I noticed it kind of helps because I'm putting it's kind of separating in my brain, like, oh, it's not me. I love that. And I did the same thing with my eating disorder. I called it ed um perfect and I yeah, and it does. There is something really relieving about realizing that this is just a piece of you. It's not you, it's not even it's really what the world has done to you. So it's not even you,

and it compartmentalizes it. And it's nice to have something to be like like ed not today. I do not believe what you're telling me about myself. You know, Jojo, what are you doing? Pull it together? You know, it's little things like that, But I love, and I love being able to talk about it with people because I feel like once I started having these like open dialogues with my friends, it truly made me feel so much better, like, oh, my goodness, I'm not the only person going through it,

because when you're going through it can feel so isolating. Absolutely, it really can. And I think one of the best things I ever did for my recovery when I was antarexic was going to a group therapy, Terrified absolutely terrified love therapy. It was on campus, and I found out through a counselor on campus that they had the secret group that met and it was like a basement so

no one would know where we were. Um, it was terrifying to go, but like one of the most powerful things was to sit in a room with other women who had never met before and share them expressed the same thoughts that I had in my head that I thought were so crazy and so isolating. And you know, there's a lot of power in just community. There really is.

And you noticed when someone says I mean, you're like, oh, you feel that too, so do I. And it's it's taking that first step to just say something, which is

often the hardest thing um. Something that I am really inspired by is I know you talked about doing ballroom dance as like a release, and I started to I signed up for a tap dance class this semester, but I've never danced before in my life, and it's with dance majors and people have taps since they were two, and I don't know what I'm doing, but I'm having so much fun. So I was wondering you have that same release with ballroom dancing where you kind of can't worry,

you kind of have to focus on what you're doing. Absolutely, I think it's really important to one like have an outlet something like that where you get to you really have to, like you said, focus and it takes you out of whatever you're living in on your day to day.

But also, I think there's something so great about being a consistent student in life, like the ability to try something new and realize that like, Okay, I'm going to be kind of bad at this for a while because I'm just learning and oh my gosh, is they're teaching me this step it feels impossible. I think that is such an important feeling to consistently have as a human because as we're as we grow as adults, we just get so so comfortable being comfortable, and we get really

uncomfortable being bad at things. Like kids are fine falling, They're fine if they suck at something, and they're like they're like, it's okay, I'm I'm just learning. Of course I suck, but adults aren't good at that. And so you know, like yeah, in a ballroom or I've recently started taking a trapeze class, like so you know, so uncomfortable.

So um odd I love it though, but I really think there's so much value in And also you have to really focus because and it does pull you out of your head because you're like, I have to focus on this or I'm gonna trip on my shoe or I'm going to fall off this areal apparatus. You know. Literally, I've been trying to live by doing one thing a day that makes me uncomfortable. Oh and it's honestly made me live more life than I ever have because I've been really putting myself out there. Can you tell me

an example? Oh, of course, Um, I asked someone out for coffee, which I've never done before. Um. When and this was a little bit terrifying. But in my tap class, my teacher pointed at me and told me to do the dance routine in front of everybody. Did I want to shoot my pants a bit? Yes, but didn't make me feel uncomfortable? And absolutely did so we got everything that made us uncomfortable on the way. So it's just like little things that I do throughout the day, just

like for me socially, anxiety can cause. So I've been trying to put myself in social situations. So whether that's I went to a party by myself, which I've never done before, but I actually had the best time. So it's just been it's been a lot, but it's been good. Yeah, good for you. I'm going to take that. I don't know if I will have the courage to do it every day. That's bold, just one thing, it could be so small. I think it's amazing. Just one Okay, Okay,

I could but I love that. I think that's amazing. It's fun. I've been really trying to the goal for myself for this year is to try and be the best person I can be and try and you know, grow as much as I can. And I've been doing my life in three months increments where I feel like when I plan something for three months, I'm a completely different person. So it's been helpful to do it in those bits I find. Yeah, oh that's so good. I

love it. I want to talk about trapeezing because I know you are going on tour and you're releasing a Christmas album, which is Can we talk about how fast the holidays came this year? Oh my gosh, I cannot believe that we're almost in spooky season. Like, yeah, do you have any Halloween costumes planned? You know, I am the kind of person I have a costume shed amazing just of like so many costumes from music videos and tours. I love costumes, so I keep them all. Um, I'm

like a costume hoarder. I guess you could say, but it's a great I'm not gonna lie. I know. I always tell my friends, if you don't know what to be, come over. We'll play dress up. So, um, I don't know what I'm gonna be, but we're gonna be a tour rehearsals. So I'm planning on throwing a like a Halloween party after a long day of Christmas tour rehearsals.

I absolutely love that we have to take a quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk about your new album snow Waltz and the crazy stuff you're going to be doing on tour, and it has to do with track peezing. We'll be right back and we're back. Your new album, snow Waltz comes out so soon. And I know you described this album as a whimsical, pixie like feeling. That's quintessentially me. Can you please expand on

that because I love how that's phrased. Well, thank you. Um. You know, this is actually my second Christmas album, and my first one I really leaned into like what does Christmas iconically sound like? You know? So I had some big band songs in there, and I was trying to really lean into the traditional sound of Christmas. And this time I was like, actually, I want Christmas to come

a little bit into my world. And so, um, I do feel like this album is still sounds like Christmas, but it also sounds very much like me and like whimsical. I I just cannot wait to like take it on the tour and get to share like pixie dust with people every night. So you are going to be trappeezing

while playing the violin, you must be incredible at multitasking. Well, you know what I found is in order to multitask, you just have to know each skill so much that you don't have to think about them, and they become one. I guess. So I was like, learned the violin parts and then whether it's choreography or trappeezing. Um, I learned that super well, and then I learned them together slowly, and because I actually I am not a great multitasker, but if you can connect the two so they become

one skill. Because if you think about it, like when I play the violin, one arm is doing something completely different than the other hand, but they become one so that they're synonymous. And so if the choreography becomes one with the playing, then I'm not multitasking anymore. My body just knows the assignment for every move, you know what I mean. That's so awesome. So how has tell me how how has trappeezing been? What is that process been? Like?

It's been so fun. It started out like, you know, super uncomfortable and like a little bit scary as you're like up in the air holding onto these ropes, and just hoping that your balance is good. But um, you know now that I'm like a little more comfortable out there and I learned how to like do certain positions where I can play and stuff. It's just so fun. I've definitely gotten the aerial bug now. And two of my dancers were like, that looks like a lot of fun.

We'd love to do it too, So they now go up in the air too, Like we've just all been, you know, we've been rehearsing and getting stronger, and it's there's something very empowering about it too. I've never been super strong, like in my upper body, like I could never do a pull up, and suddenly I'm I'm getting strong And so there's something that's really like exciting and empowering about like what your body can do when you push it absolutely. And I know you talked about your

struggle with eating disorders. Isn't that even more empowering with how much you've overcome and to be able to feel strong in your body, has that just been even more of a full circle moment for yourself? A percent? And I remember when I was first trying to get through my anorexia. Um, one of the things I really focused on was thanking my body for what it could do, instead of seeing it as this like visual picture that I was always trying to shrink and trying to disappear into.

It was like, my body allows me to walk, it allows me to you know, um, you know. And at the time, I wasn't much of a dancer. But since then and I always try to really think about that, like my body is not an object, it's a tool, and it allows me too much. And the more I've learned to focus on the what I can do and train my body to be, the less I have because of course I'm like past andrexia, but there's always that little part of my brain that there's always the voice

I had to tell ed to go away. I don't believe that anymore. And the more I've worked on my my skills with my body, the easier it is to tell him to get the heck out of here. I love having tools in your tool kit. It's so autome, and I'd like to think of my brain as a toolbox and I'm just filling it with tools. Love that.

So something that I think is very inspiring to me is I know you're an independent artist and you're constantly creating and innovating, And I was wondering, when you're going into creating a project, what is the creative process, Like do you generally have a theme in mind or a general idea or things you want to implement in your project or how does it generally go about when you're creating something and wanting to innovate a space. You know, it all depends. I do love a theme though. That's

why I like Christmas albums are so fun. Is like there's a very understood theme that everyone gets and we get to use the from the theme. Um, you know what. I've done that on several albums, Like I wrote my last original album was called Artemis and I actually decided I wanted the theme to be this like fantastical story and I wrote a comic book so that like the album and the artwork and the music videos and the tour could like center around this theme and the red

hair thank you. I love red hair. Um. It's like really fun when you can create like a palette and then you get to just bring it to life in different mediums, Like making the music videos is so fun, you know, for that Artemus album or making the tour flow, like feeling like I got to tell a little bit of the story. Um so so yeah. To me, I think it all comes a lot from like storytelling. I've always been a storyteller. My dad like like taught me how to tell stories from the time I was little

because he was a writer and loved storytelling. And so I think that's where a lot of my creativity really thrives is when I find a way to make it feel like the music is a narrative or you know, like I'm writing to create a feeling of a story or an arc of a story. There's something so magical about that to me and always has been. So you've done comic books, You've composed what's the next element of storytelling that you want to go down? What's the next

endeavor for you? The next endeavor? Um, you know, I've I've always wanted to well, I've always wanted to compose music for like a score, like a film. And I think you know, John Williams, I think is the greatest musical storyteller of our time. He's inspired me so much, and so I'd love to write like theme music, manifest put it out there. Yes, I'm a big manifesto. I've been trying to get into it, and I've noticed when I feel like I've been putting out good vibes, good

vibes come back. So we're seeing how it goes. I love it. It's so true though, it's like what you put into the world is what comes back. It's also what you're going to look for. It's very much what you look for, you know, if you're focusing. Yeah, like the good and the bad and the positive and the negative. They're all around us simultaneously all the time, and it's just what have you trained your mind to see? Um, are you going to pick out the good? Are you

going to focus on the bad? And you know, and it changes your life depending on which one you're looking for. Yeah, So how do you stay creative without getting into a funk? Because that is something that I've struggled with quite a bit. Yes, Um, and funks are the worst it is, and it's like inevitable, It's like, yeah, it happens, and um, so I definitely get into funks and sometimes it's just a matter of being kind to myself when I'm in it and not, you know, just reminding myself that is a part of

the process. Like when I'm in writing mode and I feel like I'm just writing bad song after bad song after bad song, I'm like, you know what this happens. We've been here before. We know that the good stuff will eventually come, you know, So like be kind to myself. That's kind of the the mantra of the Funk because it's like the harder I am on myself and the more I like get angry, you know, my why are I being better? Like, it's only going to slow down

the process. It's like any emotion, you just gotta feel it, experience it, and then it will move on. You know. Have you noticed that living life has helped get help you get out of creative funks because you're pulling more from your life experience than just supposed to forcing yourself

to write. I think so. I think sometimes, Um, like I just read this amazing book called The Happiness Advantage, and he talks in the book about how, you know, we have this mindset so many times that we just got to push through and we just gotta like grit down and like get through it and keep working. But he says that if you do small, tiny things and it's not like you even have to go on a huge vacation or take a month off work or like

do anything big like that. Like little tiny things that just like give you a burst of happiness, whether it's like going to your favorite like restaurant for lunch in the middle of the day, like just to kind of pull yourself out of something, or um listening to your favorite song and taking five minutes to dance around your

house before you leave to an important meeting. Like what that does to your body, um and your mind is game changing, and it gives you a huge advantage in like the workplace even or in just your mental health. Like tiny bursts of happiness. And so I've like kind of tried to like implement this into my life, and it's been really cool to see how I can work longer in sessions, i can be more creatively a tune when I'm kind of taking little breaks, which is not

intuitive to me. I have for a long time time was always like, no, you work, you work, you work, you go, you go, you go until you figure it out. But there's so much more power that comes when you take a little break. Yeah, reset yourself, get some sunlight, have a snack, then go back in and you're gonna be so much more effective than if you just like

powered through. I agree, And I feel like we're also living in a society where hustle and grind culture is so like it's good to wake up at three am to get your days started and stay up till midnight and work so hard and do all that. But it's like that's just not how our bodies function, and we need sleep and to give ourselves rest. And I feel like people don't really talk about it, like sleep is cool, guys, you should sleep, Like going to sleep early, sleep is cool.

I love that. And you know, I just feel like there's this need whenever anyone's like what are you up to? What's going on? You feel like you have to the best answer is like I am so exhausted. Oh my gosh, I'm just working so hard and there's so much happening. I could bear like, you know, that's like the answer. That's like the cool answer. I feel like it has been for years. But why not just be like I'm up to nothing? And it's kind of great. You know what I've loved lately that if I like, if I

have stuff, I'll tell peop about it. But in those times, so maybe I'm in between projects. I've learned to like be really okay with being like, you know, I'm kind of in between stuff right now, but like I'm happy. I'm doing good. That's like my favorite answer to give is not even to talk about what I'm doing or how tired I am or if I am tired, but just saying like I'm actually like in a good place,

like I'm I'm happy. And it's funny to see people's response if you say, like, if your answer is that I'm I'm happy, like, oh, you know, it's it's a very intriatum. Tell me more, um, you know, or if it doesn't have to be that I'm happy, be like, oh man, it's you know, it could be whatever it is.

But talking about how you're actually doing rather than what you're doing is like a shift for I think a lot of people, especially in the entertainment space, when it's so much about like what are you working on next? What do you do? Anyway, it's not just like, you know, I'm actually pretty content right now, like really, yeah, I'm fulfilled. Yeah, and for no reason, I'm just like I'm just happy and they're like, oh that's good. Yeah, I wouldn't be like that. Yeah, okay, we have to take one more

quick break. But when we come back, I want to talk all about touring, including how it affects your mental health, the good and the bad. We'll be right back and we're back. So when you're on tour, would you say tour has been like good for your mental health and the travel or it does it weigh on your mental health a bit because I can't imagine like going from city to city performing all the time. Or do you just like love it and is that how you feed

off your energy? I kind of love it. Well that's good, I do. I thank Heavin's. I would not do it nearly as much as I do if I hadn't realized early on that like, oh my gosh, I love this. Um, you know, I love entertaining. I feel like it's kind of what I was born to do, was to get out there and put on a show. It's it's just who I've always been. But I think the most important thing that makes me love it is UM the people I tour with, Like I I really have a family

and UM. And it's funny because I don't have a family of my own in my home, Like I have friends in l A and I like my people that I love, but like I feel almost like when I go on tour, I'm going home to a family. Um that you know, because some of these guys and these you know, some of the guys have been with me for ten years, and my dancers have been with me

from anywhere from eight to four years. Um. So it's like we really are a family and we have our own we have our own Christmas traditions at this point because we've toured so many times through Christmas and so um. I think aside from the fact that I love performing, I love putting on a show, it's the fact that I can go to sleep at night on my tour bus, you know, like a sleepover with my friends on the bus, And that makes all the difference to me. That's so

much fun. Are you so excited to go back on tour. I'm so excited, lindsay, I need to see the show. I'm so excited to see you. I want to see you Trappee's in the air. Oh yeah, come back to a show. We'll get your tickets. Oh that would be so cool. So are you so excited to just trap peas in front of so many people or you a little well, we did it last Christmas. Um, that was like our our little maiden journey to see how it felt.

And it worked and and it was great. And so we're going to all new cities this year's and we've also had time to like home the craft a little bit more. So I'm I'm very you're an expert. I'm a quote unquote sure, I'm expert ish enough to do in front of audiences. So um, because like, yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to go up in the air in front of a crowd if I was still afraid, you know what I mean, if I was like afraid of falling, Like I could not do that in front

of a crowd. But now that I'm like very comfortable, and I'm like, I feel strong, I feel confident, like I'm ready. I love that. Are you doing any other d I wise for this tour? So many? I, um, you know, I'll be making a violin something cool. I'm

not sure what. But I'm also super involved in the costuming, so I've like, um, you know, costumes all over my house of like bits and pieces that I've been piecing together and then I basically, once I pieced them all together and pinned things, I like send it to a seamstress and then she makes it so that it's not going to fall apart. But like, I love costuming. It's something that I get a lot of joy in. Again,

it's like Kraft night. Yeah, I saw you made a skirt out of your curtains and I was so impressed. I was like, how did you do this? That was you know, that was a moment of necessity. Like I had ordered a dress for a music video and then it just kept not coming and not coming, and it kept saying it was coming, and the night before it still hadn't arrived. And I got home and it wasn't there, and I'm like, oh my gosh, it's nine o'clock at night.

What am I going to wear tomorrow? And I was like laying in bed and I like looked at my curtains and it was like the sound of music moment. You know, it's like a favorite things. Um So yeah, I was like, oh my gosh. I just basically pinned it to a skirt and like draped the fabric and anyways, it ended up looking really great. It was like the perfect ideal situation. I didn't have to ruin the they're

actually back in my room. They were Anthropology curtains, So I was like, I'm not going to ruin my curtains. Never not Anthropology curtains. Never not Anthropology. It's like designer wear for your window. Literally, So I was like, I don't want to ruin them. So I just like unhooked them, pinned them up, unpinned it at the video, and like carefully placed them back up. Like goodness, I'm so excited for the holiday sales that are about to come from Anthropology.

The candles have some fun stuff, their home to Core, their dresses, everything is so magical. They're their home to Core is what I hope my future house to be like. It will like I'm it's just going to be color. It's going to be a pink couch. Like I just know, there's just gonna be fun. Yes, so like so feminine, I guess is what I think draws me in. It's fun, it's whimsical, and I feel like I feel like that you can't find it's hard to find nowadays, it is. Yeah,

everything is so dark and dark colors. I'm like, where's the color at Yeah, everybody's into neutrals and like a very basic palette. Um basic like patterns. But I'm like, oh, well give me some flooras need some color. Yeah, sparkle, oh, sparkle anything and it will make it better. That is my life motto. You got to absolutely Lindsay, thank you so much for taking the time to come on my podcast, and everyone go listen to her second Christmas album, snow Walls.

It is Oh my goodness, I'm so excited and I'm excited to see you hopefully live. That will be incredible. Yes, oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for such a great conversation. I loved all the things. I'm going to try to do something uncomfortable every day. I love that. Yeah, thank God for that. Thank you of course, thank you so much. Lindsay was so lovely getting to talk to you. You too, have a wonderful rest of your day because luck with college. Thank you. I will make it through.

You are, You're gonna be great. Okay, bye bye

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