Featuring Jordan Fisher

and so much more. Well, we didn't get a chance to talk about him being in Dear of enhancent on Broadway because it wasn't public yet we covered just about everything else. There's also an amazing giveaway at the end of this, so make sure you listen carefully. Hi guys, and welcome to this week's episode. I am so excited because Jordan Fisher is here. Hi. I want to tell you guys why it means so much to me that Jordan is here today. Let's go back to May. Let's

let's do it. I was thirteen years old. Jordan Fisher was my very first professional interview. It's kind of hard to believe that I was your first, Like, I can't really it's hard for me to wrap my head around that because you were so collected, you just think you were so poised already. Kind of it blew my mind. Dude.

We were at this Zone hundred radio station and I remember before the interview, you performed UM for like a small group of like forty people, and I remember I remembered you from Teen Beach movie, but I didn't really know Jordan Fisher, and I remember when he started saying, everyone's just jaws dropped because you sound like an angel when you sing. And I'm very I am not just saying that, like your voice check in the mill, thank you. Um,

your voice is just beyond words. And I just remember talking to you and I I felt so comfortable and just easy and it was so great, very sweet. So let's fast forward to September. Jordan actually introduced me to Radio Disney, and because of him, I've been working with them, and I can say for certain that I know I wouldn't be sitting here having this podcast You're doing anything if it weren't for you. So very very sweet. I'm

very proud of you. I actually pulled a quote from the first interview, but I want to Okay, great, okay, let's hear it. Quote my life right now. For the next while is music. It's putting out the album, touring, doing that whole thing, and hopefully when the right film comes along, doing that, maybe work on Broadway for a minute, you know, go back on tour, put out another album, work on another film, and go back on tour. That's what I want to do for forever. Isn't it crazy?

It's done all that in the past three years. It's kind of I mean, it's wild. I you know, I never I never got around to putting out the like the full album. UM and film really came trickling back into my life much faster than I anticipated. And I think a little bit it's interesting how how you have like an idea of what you think it's going to make you happy, and then with the lack of control that we have in our lives, often times things just kind of fall into place the way that they should.

You put it out there. Let's go down the timeline. All right, You've released a me P. He's acted in movies, You've been on Broadway, you one Dancing with the Star. She became a gamer. Well I was already a gamer, yeah, but like you became a professional. Well yeah, really dove into it and you got engaged. You've done a lot, but it's it's been it's been a heck of a few years for sure. So which one comes easiest to I don't know the one comes easier than the other.

I think that to maintain my ability to do all of them, well, I have to keep working at all of them. Well, you said on social media recently that during the height of all of the success you felt the most alone. Can you tell me more about that? Yeah, you know, it's an interesting it's an interesting thing, like mental health is, uh is a very important thing to

prioritize in your life. And I think that it's really easy to to be in the midst of the busy and the hectic and not think about how you're actually doing. And yes, so I was part of the November campaign UM where mental health for men specifically is concerned and and it's not talked about enough. It's not I think because as men, we don't typically talk about it enough.

I think that we have a habit of of just kind of dealing, you know, and uh, silently suffering and like whatever it is that we're dealing with, and um, you know, just because of I think social stigmas. I think that's just kind of what it is we're meant. We feel like we're meant to be a certain type of human man. You know, shape up, just keep your keep your chin up, man up, buff up, do the thing. And uh, I don't know that that's that's particularly the

healthiest thing for us. I think that we should talk about on it and um, you know, put ourselves out there. Yeah. I went through I went through a rough time for years ago and when things were working really really well for me, but I was lonely. I felt lonely, I felt not good, I felt sad, and when I had all of these great things to be happy about, do you know what the change and what helped you get

through it? In particulars talking to people, I think that I think that talking to a professional is probably always going to be the best way to go about it. Um. I did not do that then, But it's funny because I'm starting to do that now, isn't it great? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm amped. And I think it's important to work with somebody that is professionally trained and has an education on helping people sort through their thoughts and and be comfortable and their and their skin and happy with

their own company. I think that that's a very important thing that we don't prioritize enough. Well, let's switch gears, shall we. I want to talk about Dancing with the Stars. Okay, that's in it. I just want to say to everybody listening that I called it that you would win when it was announced. I remember saying it to you, and I called it everybody, this is true. Well, on the show, you were incredibly vulnerable and open with your adoption story.

Were you ever hesitant to be that open and vulnerable because millions of people were watching? Yeah, I think I definitely was. It was Lindsay was my partner that that really UM encouraged me. Oh, you know, kind of be an open book in that way and and let people into that side of my my life and educate people on where I come from and you know, be um, I guess, kind of be a beacon in that way.

And the coolest thing that came out of that was less the catharsis of telling you know, the story and my story and allowing people to know exactly what my dynamic is, UM, but hearing other people's stories as well, people coming out of the woodwork, you know, just Instagram, d m s and Twitter and whatnot. Facebook people just saying, hey, you know saw this thing, and you know this really moved me and my family because I'm adopted or I adopted two kids or whatever the thing is. And to

hear those stories was really meaningful. Okay, question where is the mirror ball in your home? Where is it? I have this little nook because little knowing you, like walking to my house here in the four years, like a parlor off to the left, but there's this nook that right before you go down like one of the like the first main hallway, and it's just sitting there and I have no lights on it or anything. And we just did a panel with rashand Jennings and they were

asking us where our mirrorbas were. And he was like, you' got this like this glass case and it's on this It's on my mantel in my living room and it spins and there's like an LED light that has I was like, wait, what I need to do that. I need to do something like that. But when I first won my I was renovating my house, so it was in my bathroom for the first like five months that I had it. You should put it on display. It's

a good conversation. So absolutely, well, now it is. It's like one of the first think you see when you walk amout hod So when dancing with the stars. I am not surprised at all because you're an incredible danswer and you've done it for quite a while. First, for those who don't know, you played video games for basically your entire life. Yeah, yeah, you have in a game in my whole life. And I'm really curious to know when did that, just the love for getting become a

part of your career. That's a great question, um, and one that I don't think I talked about enough. So you've heard of this this little game called Fortnite. I mean, I don't know, it sounds kind of familiar. Yeah, so it's it's this cool little game. You know. You build walls and ramps and roofs and things to to protect yourself and to get reached places, and you are trying to eliminate other players and then be the last person standing on this bat. What do you win if you're

the last person standing? A victory royale and bragging rights. That's what you're win. Yeah, that's what you win. Did you ever think that you would be a professional and you'd be paid to be playing game No. No, I worked at game Stop when I was sixteen. I mean, like, yeah, gaming has been a massive part of my life for forever and very grateful for that. What do you mention

about it? It's an escape, you know, it's Um, it's also really great opportunity to laugh and play with friends, to talk to commune the fellowship, to encourage one another, to joke and pick and play, and um, it is socially one of the most rewarding things that we have, I think, and I'm really grateful for that. I love that. That's probably my favorite aspect of it. One of these days you have to teach me for sure, because I

don't know how to play absolutely I got you. Okay, What is the longest you've played for in one sitting? Oh god? Um, fifteen or sixteen? I did a land party at a at a buddy's house. We played. We all brought our xboxes and like our console televisions over to his place and connected via land and played Halo.

I think for like sixteen seventeen hours. What about recently? Recently? Um, it's going to be like a charity stream or something that I've done that that required would have required, you know, like a long period of time. I think eleven hours. I think intense. It is, but you know you love it if well, it's it takes a while to get there because it is it's strenuous mentally to sit there for that period of time, well in front of between

and to entertain. Yeah. Yeah, you have to recognize, like I'm on for that for that period, I am playing at a high level. I'm talking to the people that I'm that I'm talking to other content creators that are also streaming, that are also on and also entertaining, trying to find that swing and that flow of being in the same discord channel together, muting with the foot pedal,

and then talking to our chat as well. We've got thousands of people that are all talking to us while we're playing, to handle the stream, diagnostics, to handle the transitions between scenes, and then also continue the gameplay. Go like that. There's so much that it's a full Yeah. See, I find this so interesting because I didn't know that. I always thought I was just like talking to people and playing games. Four monitors, a camera to mice, two keyboards,

two PECS classes because I already needed classes. Yeah, but doesn't that like strain your eyes? Yeah, I mean there's there's ways you take care of that. I'm really curious when you started gaming, is your fan base They're different than your fan base with your music and acting career. When I started streaming, it was completely more so TV film, music fans coming to watch and hang while I did something that they weren't aware of at all and nothing

that they you know, knew about. And then as I continued to stream into play, my fan base grew on Twitch specifically more so for the gaming space, Like you know, it was a bunch I have a bunch of like gamers and my channel and again the bridging of the gap,

it's really important to me. So if my intro on my stream, there's there's just like this awesome four minute piece that kind of just introduces people, lets people know like who I am, where I've come from, because the amount of people to come in and they're like wait, how wait, hold on now, hold on then and you know, to be able to kind of an incredible voice, Oh my god, can you do the rest of the Grandma Petty? That's my Grandma Petty? Grandma Petty, she here, baby, she

got you. Okay, now let's talk acting. Yes, talk to you about that. I know the story you've told me. You started acting because the girl in the fifth grade and that's when we first went to drama class. That's right. Was there a pivotal moment when you realize, like, oh, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life, for the rest of my life. I got bit by the bug for sure. I was in fifth grade. Fell in love with it very quickly, you know, the girl or acting, I mean acting, I mean girl,

I got the girlfriend. No, not so much. Did my first school play, regional show, professional show, and then joined the professional Theater Company by that December and was working. I don't know that there was like ever a moment where I walked on the stage and had the epiphany like it happens in films where the light bulb goes off, and I'm like, this is because I still, you know, worked hard and you know, academically, I was like I was premed and I had like a I had a

backup plan and continued working on that. Actually, like while I was working in l A on television, and it's a very tough industry, entertainment industry. How many auditions did you go on before you got your first role? Yeah, I mean I spent years years just auditioning and not booking it getting down to me and one of the guy And that's probably the worst part. Two is that you're so close. Every time I was was dubbed like

the King of almost. There was my my Birmingham, Alabama was my Hometown's where I spent the better part of my childhood. Have been here for thirteen years. But they did this this article on me and about like traveling back and forth and doing this whole thing Birmingham News, and it was the title was the King of almost It was that was me. I mean, like I wished it was constant. It's important. It's important people recognize that it's I mean, there's nothing luxurious about what we do.

There's nothing like long hours. Oh my god. Yeah. See I don't think people realize that, No, they don't. It just all of a sudden, the movies made Yes speaking a movie. He also just filmed another movie that some people may have called to other boys I've loved before and see yes that's right. PS, I still love you. What was the process of filming, how is the audition? How is working with thous In Tonao? It was great,

I'd see. I just finished Rent. It was literally like the day before I finished that, I got a call asking my availability for this film. I was like, oh wait, I hadn't even seen it yet, and I was like, did you see the first one of that? I had not seen the first one at that point, and I was like, oh wait, like I definitely have heard of it. You know, it was a big splash. I have no no sintennaio for a really long time. He was on Disney too, right, he was. But we met. I don't

even remember how we met. We met their mutual friends, like eight years ago. We've known so we've known each other for a very long time. And I got a call asking, you know, for my availability and if I and if I did have the availability, if I could get phone up to Vancouver real fast to read with Lana got the flu, which was not fun. That was that really sucked um. But I also watched watched the first of all the Boys and was so enamored. There's a whole thing with my passport. I lost my passport

in a move. I had to wake up at like four thirty am to go down to the Federal Building to like stand in line in the cold with the flu,

like looking at my sides like frigid outside. Managed to get my passport immediately hopped on a flight up to Vancouver with the flu and like studying just got my passports so uncomfortable, so just like in pain, got up there, landed, slept for like five hours, woke up red with Lana, kept my distance, and then got back on a flight, headed back down to l A. Landed and got the call that that I was doing it and that I

was leaving in like three days to go start filming. Wow, you also just filmed a movie with Sabrina Carpenter and like because she called to work it, which I am very excited to see. What was it like filming with Sabrina because you guys have been friends for a while, known for a long time, known for a long time. God, I think she was twelve or thirteen when we met, Like it was it's been a minute, and it's interesting, like and we we played lovers in the movie. It

was very very interesting. It was a very like and she's like your sister, right, Like that's weird. It's an interesting it's an interesting thing. You. I was just talking to somebody about this recently. Like you just it goes away, Like when you're on set and you put yourself in the role and you are there and you're doing the work and you're surrounded by eighty two people. You just as an actor, you become used to it, right, Like

it's just one of those things. But I don't know, it's an interesting it's an interesting concept, but it just kind of disappears, like Jordan and Sabrina disappear, and it becomes your character, and it becomes the characters. It really is a beautiful film. Sabrina is great in it. Liza Coci is, She's hysterical. It's really really wonderful. I'm e she really is. She. I loved it. She was wonderful and it You also were in a small show that many people may not know, but it's called Hamilton's Okay.

I have so many questions. Was the audition process like for Hamilton's Man, because you know I'm a huge fan. Yeah, I don't want to make anybody mad. It was a phone call. It was I was in Nashville. I played a show and Tommy Cale I did Grease Live with. He was the director for Grease Live. Yeah, Tommy called me. I was playing a show in Nashville and I got off stage like eleven thirties midnight thirty New York time, and he said, hey, do you have a second to chat?

And I was like, yeah, what's going on? He said, how quickly can I get you to New York? And how long can you do the show? And I said I can technically be there in like two days and I can do it for like four months. And he's like, all right, well, well, if you're down, like, let's work towards making that happen because we need you kind of quickly. So I was like, all right, to back to l a film, a film, a music video, and then red eye to New York landed, dropped all my stuff off

at the hotel and then started rehearsing. How long was it rehearsal? The rehearsal process took like five weeks? Five weeks, and you were just yeah, and you're learning the show

by yourself because everyone's doing right exactly. So you're learning the show with a dance captain, you know, an associate director, an associate mu supervisor and then yeah, and then you run through it like once maybe twice with understudies and covers and a couple of like the principles, and and then like when it's your time to go, you've only really run through the show once or twice, and you are shoved out there like in front of an audience that have at that time have been you know, maybe

waited two years to see the show, paid god knows how much to get their tickets, and now you're the one performing. You're the one doing it. That's so insane to me. And I think there's a line in the show that I love. It's so small of the entire thing is incredible. It was in my shot when Lynn says, this is not a moment, it's a movement. And I just love that line because there's so many different layers

to the show. So like when you were performing and it did you do you still realize those little layers throughout the show. It's a very in depth it was. It's an incredible show. Think almost every performance, every every time I did the show, there was something that I would catch and be like, and it usually it was like it was like Lynn, I can't believe there's my favorite song is is Um NonStop? A good one? And

he's able to narrate. He's able to narrate a three month period of one of the most one of the most congressionally disarmed moments in American history. In the course of like a few lines, he says corruptions such an old song that we can sing along and harmony, and nowhere is it's stronger than in Albany. This colony's economy is increasingly stalling. And honestly, that's why public service seems to be calling me. I practiced the law, practically perfected it.

I've seen injustice in the world, and I've corrected it now for a strong central democracy. If not, then I'll be Socrates throwing verbal rocks at these Mediocrates. And I just like the rhyme, scheme, the word play, and how it's he's able to narrate what's happening in such a short amount of time, and just the way just when you read it, it's you know, certain songs you can only listen into a few times. You can I've listened to that soundtrack hundred thousand times, and I still pick

up different things totally. Yeah, and you will continue to do. So you are very blessed, which in that you get to be friends with the modern day Shakespeare. It's the truth. That's what I call him as well. He's he's he's

our Shakespeare. He is. How did you meet him? We did a promo shoot for Greece Live before we started rehearsals, a couple of weeks before Thanksgiving, I think, and then the director, you know, he just he kind of grabbed a few of us and was like, Hey, I'm gonna go get dinner with some friends tonight, um that are in town working on a movie, and you know, you

guys like to come. It was me and Aaron to Fate, Julianne Huff, I think, Vanessa, and then Tommy and then in Walks Limo and Miranda and a huge you know in the Heights fan and I just I've I've loved his stuff. Bring it on, you know. Um went Chump Street and he walked in. I was like, oh, so this is who I'm having sushi with tonight. That's great, and we met, we clicked. It was great. And then he saw Greece when it happened, and he was he became a fan, and I was already a fan, and

and then we became buddies. Went up. I went up to see Hamilton's two weeks after Greece happened, a week or two after Grease happened, like very very immediately, and he hit me on Twitter and was like, hey, Thursday night is Broadway Bowls Like it's so it's a there's a Broadway Bowling League every Thursday night. He was like,

come b our Ringer. And so I went and bold with Lynn and the rest of the Hamilton's cast at the time after like right after I had seen them do the show and it was awesome and and yeah, it was an amazing, an amazing experience, and then he and I clicked became buds, and that was it. Do you have a favorite memory, because you guys have a song together, which is crazy to say, Jack, do you

have a favorite memory? Which, jeez, honestly probably Like, so, I'm doing his musical on Broadway in New York, did a Sunday mattinee, and then went straight from from the theater to JFK, flew to London, landed through my stuff in a hotel room, got picked up, and went straight to set to go film the music video, and we hung all day. We played music and laughed and watch funny videos and played piano and like that's how we

filmed the music video. We we wrapped at like nine pm that night, and then I went back to a hotel and grab died like a nightcap with my manager and slept for like four hours, and then woke up the next morning and hopped on a flight and flew back to New York and landed the JFK and went straight back to the theater and did Hamilton's How did you find out you guys were going to do the song together? He hit me he I was actually coincidentally on vacation in Hawaii and face he FaceTime to me,

and it's a nice surprise. It was like, hey, you know doing this? Uh you know Mowana is happening. Blah blah blah. I would love for you to sing like a cover to one of the songs from the film that will play during the end credits, as long as I can be the featured rapper on it. Oh my god, that's insane. It's pretty great. Well, as we talked about, the entertainment industry is a very it's a tough industry to be in what has been the hardest thing you've

had to overcome in it? I think the hardest battle is satisfaction. I think that, um, are you perfectionist? Yeah, very much. So it's important to recognize that you will probably never be satisfied with anything. Um quote from A Hamilton's man, Oh my god, has it ever made you want to give up? No? No, because I recognized that I'm only twenty five and I still I'm still so not um completely in touch with who I am as a person. And it's a journey though it is very much. So. Well,

that's what I want to do with this podcast. Like I love that you know, nothing's turned on, Like we're just I love to get to know people. And I'm glad that you're just being honest, you're not turning it on and you're just telling me about everything. I think it's important to realize that everyone's just people. Absolutely. I love that. Al Right, So this is the point of the show where we are going to be doing some drawing. Okay, it doesn't matter if you're good or bad. We have

some hats here. We're gonna go half on one side, half on the other, and then we're going to switch. At the end, we're going to sign it and a lucky person might get it as a giveaway. Beautiful, all right, what color do you want to go with? Firms? Start with a nice a nice blue. Okay, I think I'm going to go for the army green. That's mine. And then we just go huh and I'm gonna draw a dog on the bill of the hat. Nice. There we go. So, Joan, what's up, girl? I have some more questions for you.

We'll hit me. What is the best advice you've ever received? Oh, to not be so serious all the time. I should probably listen to that. Going for an orange. It's hard. It's hard to practice that, to be honest with you, It really is. It's very very hard to practice not being so serious all the time. So I'm just I'm just kind of letting letting my hand guide me. I respect that. Okay, I think I'm gonna go with pink and then just kind of fill it in. UM used

on me since I was thirteen. I'm seventeen now, Isn't that weird? It really does? But if you were my age again, or if you were your younger self, what would you tell your younger self, nothing at all. We all go on our journey. You know, we learned so much by making mistakes and by getting some bumps and some bruises, and and I think we forget the importance of the bar this pink again, Okay, I'm gonna go for purple. I think I'm gonna go for some nice

ocean waves. Well, I know you've talked about talking about this actually in our first interview. How when you put things out in the universe they come back around. What do you want to put out to the universe right now? Uh? Joy, I think that happiness is really important. I like that, I really do. I think that happiness is really important. I think it's something that is like so overlooked. I

think it's so important to be happy. So I like your color scheme, my friend, the purple, the what is that? The pink? And it's real cute. Okay, I'm going back for orange. Um. Trying to think what I want to draw. I think I'll draw a butterfly, to draw a big eyeball, kind of creepy, but kind of like it. Would you say that you're a spiritual person? Yeah? Absolutely? Are you the end of um? Yeah? I am I think I become more so, but I think it depends on the day.

Are you the kind of person who lives life with having regrets or do not have any regrets in life? We're agatting deep here, my friends, I guess we are. No. I think that everything happens for a reason. I agree with that completely. Again, like even the even the bumps and the bruises that we get along the road, mistakes that we make, and what I think, they're all like, they're all formative. It's important that we experience those things. You know. Yeah, I think I agree with that everything

happens for a reason. I think for a long time I lived my life having regrets on certain things. But I read this quote basically saying to live your life in the moment, and you know, regrets are something that we put on ourselves. That and it's a waste of time when you could be doing something better. Yeah, but yeah, all right, on a lighter topic, what your go to playlist? Who's on it? It's also a really good question because it also very much depends on just like where I'm at,

I agree with that, you know what I mean? For me, it's like very Broadway right now, really let's playlist more an album? Okay, what album Try Hard by the band Camino? Have you heard of the band Camino? They played Lala recently. I became obsessed with them. What about them do you love? So it's four guys and they have the lead guitarist and the rhythm guitarists are are the co lead singers, And I love that. I think that's really cool. So the shows are always really powerful because they're not as

exhausted all the time. Um, they are a little bit of everything. They're there, there, there. I'm a huge pop punk guy. Um, that's most of what I've been listening to lately. It's just like going back in time listening to like Yellow Card and Green Day and Fallout Boy and Amberlyn and Morosa. Yeah yeah, yeah, Um. And these guys are a little bit of that, a little soul, a little folk, a little country, a little like they're

a little bit of all of that. I love. What would you say your favorite Broadway show is of all time? Once in this Island. I've never seen it, been obsessed with it for forever. Would you want to be in that show? Yes? I want to be one of the gods. Though people are like Oh, you'd be a great Daniel. Like Daniel's an easy, thankless role. What's the plot of it? Um? It is a folk story from the from an island in the French Antillies. Um, it's a it's a Romeo

and Juliette kind of story. It's really sweet. I like shows that aren't like really happy endings, like and Dear Van Hanson. You know he's not with Zoe, but he's himself, right, He's happy, He's like finding joy. Yeah, I think that's it's important. Man. Isn't it crazy that you can learn so much about a concept within a two hour time period. Absolutely. I think that's what's just so amazing about art. It's

so important. People see Broadway. I think it's so importan people see live live production is nothing like live theory work at my start, so of course i'm a little biased, but no, but there's just something about it. Wow. Okay, I'm almost done here. I'm just doing a final line. This looks kind of cool. I'm not gonna lie. Oh cool, nice, I want to see this. Oh, I like this isn't that cool? Okay, So let's star let's sign it in the background here, and then I have one last question

for you, my friend. You're left handed, very left handed. Do you know what I still have? I was organizing through my room and do you remember the first interview you gave out those like those cards, those like handra cards. I still haven't you do? I'm ready beautiful. This is I think my favor. That's it's it's pretty bad. Okay. Nice. The final question, it's a deep one. Okay, let's hear it. How do you want to be known and what do

you want your legacy to be? I don't know what I want my legacy to be, but I want to be known as somebody that does great work and is an even better person. I think you're already doing that. Well. Thank you. I appreciate that well. I just want to thank you again, Jordan for being on this podcast. Thank you for having me. I'm very proud of you. Thank you for always believing. Love you too. I'm in your corner, you know this, yea. Thank you guys so much for

listening to this episode. I hope you liked it. Jordan, thank you so much for coming on my podcast that really needs a lot. Make sure you followed Jordan's on all of his socials, his instagram is at Jordan Fisher. Make sure you go and see Dear Enhancing if you can when it comes back. Also, don't forget to follow my instagram it's at It's Sammy j that's I t as as A M M Y J A Y. And also don't forget to follow our podcast account, which is Sammy jay Dot. Let's be real so you can win

those hats. All right, you Guys'll see you next week. By h