Featuring Joel McHale

We're doing it, We're doing it well. Hello everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of the Let's Be Real Podcast. This week is so special because I am joined by host, actor comedian one could are you legend? Legend Joel McHale? One could argue and you would lose that are terribly How have you been since the last time we talked? Since this is the first time we've talked, we have first time. What is it like being on the other end, you know, of the hosting side being interviewed, which I

do prefer. Oh, this is way easier. What about it? Just answering questions? Yeah, I don't have to prepare fair enough. I don't have a teleprompter to go over or people to please, because you know, when you're hosting, you gotta usually an audience, and then you're like, I gotta tell a bunch of jokes, yeah, which I like doing, but it's work, which I like work. But then again, I like doing nothing, which happens never, So it's great, very busy.

That surprises me that you like doing nothing, because I'm also a workaholic. But I find doing nothing right now. I like doing nothing. I just never do it. M It's like something you always look forward to that just doesn't happen, right. So when people like, oh, when I finally get to do that thing, yeah, it's like, what is it like when you give a cat like that toy and they just chase after it but they never really get it cat nip? It doesn't that just drive

them crazy? Maybe I like the cat flashlight? Yes, the flashlight. It's that equivalent yea, when people like, oh, yeah, when I finally get to that thing, Oh, we're going to buy a beach house? Yeah, okay, yeah, go ahead and just go do it. You know, we have a lot in common. We do we do all right, Ready for this?

Go ahead. Both have learning differences Okay, yes, both anxiety, Well, it depends on what's going on sometimes fair enough, fair enough, yes, but I feel like those two things combined are just never easy. So I was wondering what that was like for you growing up. Well, I didn't have anxiety growing up, so so that came later. That came later, as uh, that's adulthood. That's only because mean, that's because of just stressful travel. I didn't have it as a diagnosis. It

definitely dyslexia. Oh yeah, how is that like reading memorizing lines with dyslexia? Memorizing lines is easy, that's easy. Dyslexia doesn't. That doesn't affect a dyslexic brain. Uh, you read a lot slower, I would say, Actually, some dyslexics probably memorize faster. That's so interesting, Like are like we read slower and comprehend it slow. Are then a person that reads typically that can just read fast, but but we get all the meaning once we read it. I'm the same way.

I have auditory processing issues, so it's somewhat similarity. Oh but so memorizing, yeah, I can memorize like no problem. Going back to anxiety. No later on now, like because I travel a lot that stresses me out. That it's because I'm trying to get back to see my family a lot. And I lived in Georgia all last year. So like when I start, when the jobs pile up, which is great, I love working, but then you know, the balance is always difficult. And then I'll be like,

why am I stressed out today? What's going on? And then I started thinking in the future, I'll be like, ah, that's what's happened. Just thinking that's what gets it going for me. You've always been anxious, Oh yes, grown up with anxiety. I think my learning difference has really triggered it personally for me because the yeah, I understand that, I always I just assumed I was dumb. Me too. I thought I was just incapable of learning, like there

was something wrong with me. For so long. I mean they literally told me I was a slow starter in second grade, that someone diagnosed me with slow starts, um, which is not a thing. They basically like, I don't know what's wrong with him. You can't read, he seems fine. Maybe he's just slow at the beginning of things, and that's what it's like. I thought about it for years. I was like, oh, yeah, well I'm a slow starter, so I'm not going to figure this out at first,

but then later on watch out. That's how you like you took that identity on kind of it sounds like, yeah, that's what I was told. Yeah, I feel the same. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's there sometimes why I had that person hunted down and killed. Oh and and they yeah, speaking of hunting down grills. Wow, that's what a transition. Thank you, I Bear Girls. Bear Girls is a great person. I know you traveled, did an adventure. I need to know more about that experience.

Why is that like just spending quality time with Bear Girls in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, we're we're trusting your life in his hands essentially. Well, there is. I mean there's insurances. There's insurance too, but imagine what the insurances. It's probably pretty hot. But they they even were talking like other countries you can go to and there's less

insurance required. But they're that crew is you know, that's like a Navy seal team of television producers and they know what they're doing and they've done it before many many times. And Bear is a very responsible person. And uh yeah, he's hurt himself a few times, but broke his back. Yeah, shoulder maybe, but he's you know, he was Special Forces, so he's yeah. I mean he was like, it's fine. Do you want some Madville no? Uh? So yeah,

that was real fun. We got dropped in by helicopter into a part of the Grand Canyon that doesn't have any access, which was great. And the boy, I'm I'm one of those people that love that sort of thing, so I really I was talking talking about it. But here's the crazy part. The night before in Phoenix, I did two stand up shows. Then a airplane that they rented picked me up and landed in this landed uh

wherever the heck we were in. I think it was in northern northern Arizona, and I slept for a few hours, and then we had ventured all day. Then I flew back and did two more shows. So mental sanity, where's that at That that that's a good day for me. That's like a fun day. I'm like, oh, this is gonna be a fun day. It'll be busy, but it'll be fun. That's so much activity and so much stimulation.

See for me, because I'm would you say you're an introvert or an extrovert, the most extroverted person probably you'll probably in Burbank right now, in Burbank specifically, Yeah, I am. I am a golden retriever. My friend I described my set friend. Yeah, my friend Kate, she was like, I'm a golden retriever, and I'm like, that's right. Uh so, And my wife's an introvert, so she has to deal with this guy all the time. So I get energy from being around people. I get more lively when in groups,

and I recharge when I'm by myself. I do not do that, like I like sitting on a plane and watching you know, like what we do in the shadows. But are some show that I'd be like, great, and That'll be my nice break and then then I'm off and running. Do you give yourself a breakthroughout the day or is it just kind of hustle and bustle till you sleep? Are you hustle and bustle till I sleep? Always? No self care? Uh? Well, I drink wine? What about face masks? Face masks? No, I use a sleep mask

because I'm easily awoken. Those are lovely. One. I have this big padded one. It's great. It looks like I'm a hostage. Oh but no, those are great. They don't touch your eyes. I have the silk one, but it's fallen off. It falls off every that's the thing. I'll try them and then they just won't be on my face anymore. The next morning, MC, where did they go? And then I'll wear your plugs and then the world is the world doesn't exist. You're in your own world.

That sounds lovely. You have to you recharge during the day. I recharge by doing my routines and doing things that are like for myself, and you have time to do all that. I make time, even if I have less sleep because of it. I will make time for it because I know it will make me feel better. But that's new for me. I feel like I'm trying to get into it. So when you wake up, are you anxious? Depends on the day and depends on what's happening right now.

Sometimes anxiousness it's like, well, what are you guys doing today? We're gonna be doing some stunt flying. That can be anxiety and docing like there's some but other times where you wake up you're like, I'm anxious and I can't even figure out why. Yeah, so I have anxiety and O c D. So sometimes it can just be I'll wake up and I'll be like, oh hey, They're like you're there. I've yeah, you're there. Got to continue the day, I know, yeah, I've developed that and I can't feel

I'm like, oh, look at that. Look you're going to feel like this today, you know. I was talking to my friend. She's like, you should name your anxiety, and I was like why. She goes, why not, like like a boat? Yeah, And it's like you put a name to it, so it's not like yourself. So I'm like, what did your name? I haven't named it yet, so should we name it now? I think we should. Is it a boy or a girl? Non binary? I feel like it could be. Honestly, it kind of feels like

a girl. I'm not gonna lie all right, uh Joel, Joel? I mean I just you know, Josephine, Josephine, Josephina. I like Josephina. Jojo Jojo? What are you doing already? Jo Jo? Don't mess up my morning like this or just go oh hey Jojo and you can start mocking her. Oh Jojo, what are you doing? You need to be a linxous today. You're feeling a little needy to be next to me all day. Come on, Jojo, I'm doing my self care later, Jojo. I like Jojo. It's going to be Jojo. Okay, I

like it. I feel like that's something that's also I don't know, there's something that I like about kind of taking the power away from it. Do you kind of make fun of it? Because I feel like that always takes the scariness away from it, which is right? And now is it weird that you're used to it? You're like, Oh, it's one of these days. It's not as scary. I've dealt with it for so long. And I think the pandemic, like,

I agree, the pandemic was no fun for that. No, I feel like it just exacerbates everything that we're all going through. If I didn't have exercise, it was would you say, exercise is a therapy for you? Exercise wine, Ken Jong, my family family first, but not no specific order. Yeah, but Kennon, I did that podcast for a brief period of time, and that was actually very helpful because we both are we have to perform constantly, and so that actually helped because we were like, oh, we have a

way to perform. Would you ever go back into the podcast in games? Well, the problem is that Ken and I both work in different places, and I'm speaking of O c D very O c D and h D. Well, yeah, I guess I'm more a D h D. So I'm always very disorganized and scattered to do lists. No, really, I would have to then write out a list. That's how I get through my days to do list all the way. I have to check everything off. Hire an assistant that I've I've had assistance for years. That's a

badass move. If I when I get there, that's the goal. That is a luxury. So they chase me around and say you have to do this, this and this, and I'm like, oh, maybe we'll get to it. We'll get there. It must be maddening for them. It's great. I feel like you you you have a good podcast voice, as do you. Thank you. That's funny said, because I don't like the sound of my voice, but I have to listen to it quite a bit. So then that's is that another source of anxiety? Aren't there always sources? I

don't know how. I think it's worse if you were like like if you were like I am, because I know people that enjoy their voice too much. Those are Yeah, you're like, okay, we hear, We're just hearing. You just want to hear your self talking right now, you're just talking. You love the sound of it. You don't know what you're saying anymore, neither do we. Just so everything is so great to listen to. So that's I don't like that.

So I think that's worse than a person. I guess self loathing is not great either, but maybe maybe neutral reaction. I think there needs to be a middle ground because I'm very self loathing both. This year is all about self love. That's what I'm making it about. Is it working? No, but we're trying. Okay, yeah, do you have to do chant like an affirmation? No? I need to get into affirmation.

I need to get into journaling. But then it's writing, like I can write to do list, but because I have so much on my mind, writing like my thoughts is will just hurt my hand. I ever do that? Yeah, So I'm like, what's another good outlet? Um? You could just leave yourself voice memos? Do you do that? I have done? So? I have done stuff like that, But I got a friend. Uh. We both yap so much that if we get on a phone call, it'll take

a long time, so we leave each other voice memos. Also, we are schedules never aligned, so it's really the only way uh sadly. But then we will have a call and it will be like two hours wow, voice memos. Like when I get on the phone with Ken Jong, I'll we'll talk for ninety minutes. But I think that's why people love the podcast and stuff, because it's just seeing you guys in in your element. And you know, I think community is has become something bigger than itself.

Um already that's called a transition. That's called the transition right there. Um. So I'm a film student also that, and I am really interested in just the process of creating from start to finish. And something that really inspires me specifically about Community is how you guys just played around formats so often. Yeah, we filmed it like a movie. Your shoot days were crazy. You did your research, of course,

very good. When you're filming a show like that and there's such time commitment, how do you find the balance on wanting to be a normal human and be with your family but also you're working on something that is a show that's arguably very being done very differently than most shows, well, movies that are any any movie that's shot in a cinematic way takes time. And unless you're clin Eastwood where you just stop shooting at five o'clock every day, there is no way to have a balance.

Especially in production. It's balls to the wall all the time, early calls, late wraps, early calls. That's just the nature. That's nothing would get done unless you had hours like that. There can be way did time. Sometimes it doesn't. I've been been lucky. There's I've been on some very efficient sets and then some totally inefficient sets. Uh. And the that's that can be maddening when it's not going quickly, but where when it's when it's you can see that

time is being wasted. But the other thing is like with community, we we were moving as a lot of it. We were moving as fast as we could, but it just takes time. When you're doing stunts and you're getting like around the around the study table that was seven people around there, and so every person has to be shot and every every part of the scene has to be gotten from that angle. So that just takes a lot of time. And so if you come to peace with that, it'll just it's just gonna be a while.

Then it's okay. The you know, to have a normal like you get your normal life when in your months off. Do you enjoy the process of filming and creating or do you like, um more of the finished product? Oh well, I like, I mean, I like acting a lot. I like. I mean, it's my first true love. What about it do you like? I don't know. I just like doing it.

It's fun. I always thought it was. I thought always thought it was, you know, playing One of the reasons why I kept pursuing it because I was like, I would be terrible at a real job, and I'm gonna do this until the real job police come and take me away. So uh so far they haven't. So far they haven't, thank god, because it's the only thing I ever wanted to do, so which can be an affliction because I know all sorts of people that that's all they ever wanted to do and and they had to

get a real job, which is maddening. Uh So it's yeah, it's it's a It really is a bug. It's like having a disease, that has just can't snitch, that has to be scratched all the time. Do you prefer acting or hosting or they just completely separate in your mind? I just yeah, I don't have any preference. I like it all. Everyone Everyone was like, well, if you had to choose, and I was like, who's making these decisions? What world are we living in where I have to choose? Uh,

they're all they're super They're really all. They're fun. They're all fun. So there's that the play of it. UM. I think acting, you know, playing a character takes a lot of time to develop, and you're developing another human in a way. Yeah, you're worth So that takes up. That is rewarding to see those things if they go well, you know when you're watching it back on television. Um, Hosting is fun because I get to improvise and screw around and have you know, like and so I love

all that stuff. I like stand up. Stand up is there's a there's a lot of travel, which I used to love. I still love it, but it it is maddening to be away from the family. Once I'm finally standing on stage. It's very fun and rewarding. And challenging, but but the whole process of kidding there, I'm like, I gotta do all that that then then and then finally okay take them. Yeah, anyway, it's these are all these become luxurious problems, but they're you know or you know,

but it's also your daily life. It's part of what the job is. And I love it and would never trade it. Yeah, I mean unless you have something really nice. I mean, I mean, if I do, I'll let you know. But like a spaceship, I would take that, you know, that would be pretty iconic, would be valuable, and you could go all over the universe probably though that's so true. We have to take a quick break. But when we come back, I want to talk about Psych the movie.

I know you played a very special role in this movie. And by the way, everyone Psych is one of my favorite shows. I also want to talk more about the show community, how you define success for yourself, and so much more. We'll be right back and we're back. You know, you were in a movie that I watched recently and I was like, oh, hello, John McHale, Uh Psych the movie, Psych the movie. Yes, I'm a are you a Psych fan? Well,

how did that come about. I am I am friends with Tim Almondson, who is from Seattle, in my hometown, and he was on Psych and he had a stroke about five years ago and which almost killed him. He has recovered remarkably, but he is still you know, like he actually can walk now. But there was a time when and this is terrible, SAG was just going to cut off the insurance because he stopped working. So James Rode and Dole Hill, who are coming on the podcast.

He's so great. I'm so excited, so fucking talented and nice and he's every those those two guys are what you want in a leads. And like Maggie Lawson's on that show, who was also so kind at the number of cool people on that show doesn't make any sense. And so when it starts with them being cool, which makes a set happy, and it makes the set a very happy place. Anyway, they wrote to that Psych movie too for Tim to be in so he could get insurance.

I mean, it's this what a terrible policy of I have thousands of problems with the Screen Actors Guild, this being one of the big ones is that if you stop working because you're horribly injured, yeah, you're not well protected. So then so then they he gets his insurance back, but he has a life insurance policy and they and they they turned around and went, oh, he's working again. We don't have to pay you for your life insurance now. And so it's also it's also stupid. And he then

eventually got back because he has will have lifelong challenges. Um. One of those challenges not being drinking bourbon with me um. So he missed opportunity so that I got to play. That was a surprise that I was playing his father who had passed away in the show in the movie, and so it was super fun and we've surprised him on set and she didn't know that you were playing his dad. Is there a video of this? There is? There is video? Is it out there? No, I've kept it. No, No,

I think it is out there. Really Yeah. I think something that I love about I know you're gonna say a transition, but Psych and Community is that the creativity and both shows I think are so prevalent, and I think those are the kind of shows that we need to be having more of nowadays because it's really playing around with format, really playing around with like Psych, Red did a whole the same episodes just six years later. I think it's awesome that now there are these shows

where we can just change around. You guys did a doc episode one time. Yeah, we did a couple of those. Dan Harmon's brain is very unique and very special and great and uh so that's why the show went from started out kind of I want, I want to say normal, but it was like, oh, what could this be? And then it took off and boy, you kind of go into his mind a bit. Yeah. I mean he has said it over and over that ill bet is kind

of his brain, and so that's one of the best characters. Yeah, I agree, Danny should have won an Emmy every year. He was playing somebody on the spectrum and his brain kind of dictated where all the episodes were going, and it was in the perspective of So that's that is pretty unique. But there's really great shows out there now.

Of course, there are so many great shows. I feel like there's something about the nostalgia that I think, right, well, now that is something that's comfortable, especially in that's so uncomfortable. I feel like, well, but that's always the case, that's true, that the world is always uncomfortable and there's always things we find humpered in. But thank god people found it in Community because well, when it was on, it was

barely stayed on the air. Every year canceled and it got literally and because of streaming services during the pandemic, like Netflix that, you know, Community found a whole new life. And the table read you guys did during the pandemic, Yeah, that was really fun. It was I think what so many people needed, and it brought so many smiles to me and my brother. It was watched it around our dining table and it was just a moment when there

was so much darkness and we were just laughing. Yeah, and Pedro Pascal man, he was so funny and he and he you know, he's a freaking Mandalorian and uh yeah, I cried. I can I tell I cried so hard after that. It was because I was just like, oh, like Bami reunion was great. If you were to be a part of another show with the same cast as Community, but different concepts, look, I would in a New York minute do something again with that. That group I would

love because they're you know, they are family. Uh superb. Yeah. Some of some of the best times to talk and those hours were endless, and I had new kids, so it is that was definitely challenging. But I knew when we were filming it. I was like, we're making a really unique thing. Let's do this till we can't. And then they stopped and they brought us back. So yeah, and then you know, we lost cast members and we added cast members and they were great. How do you

adjust when that happens? Because I feel like you when you get into a rhythm when you're doing a show for that long and you have each other's camaraderie, and then when cast members leave, like Donald Glever and Chevy Chase, that kind of dynamic is gone and you're bringing new people who are figuring out what is figuring that dynamic out? That's I mean, that shows you the brilliance of Dan

and you. The show changes, there's no you can't go back to what it was, and the show changes to something different and that Uh, it can sometimes be great and sometimes be terrible if it's not well handled. But I think with community, Paget Brewster and Keith David, those guys, Jonathan Banks, those guys were so good. Famously, when Cheers lost, uh, Shelly Shelly Long. It changed the dynamic of the show completely, and the show evolved and was just as good, and

definitely it evolved to something even better. I agree, And I think there's something I feel that people are afraid of change. It's very natural, and even me, I'm scared of it. But when I think it's so cool when you can see that change can be good and that the evolution of a show it doesn't always have to be the same. Change can be bad, it can be bad, it can be good, changes coming whether you like it

or not. I'm I think people should look through like a high powered telescope because if you're looking at a planet through a high powered telescope, the telescope has to move. Are you good with change? It depends on what it is. But you know, you see those freaking huge heavenly bodies up there and they're moving. Everything's moving, everything is swinging around in circles. So it depends on what the changes. Some change great, some change not some Yeah, you never know. Yeah.

I think I'm really easy going on some things and probably very rigid on others. I think there's something very um inspiring about the variety of which you do um, because it takes like a wide variety of different skill sets. Um. But speaking of going into change and something is changing, you're back to eat. I am back to eat. Back to Eat celebrity Beef will say, you have done more research than a lot of different people that have been on podcasts. Really. Yeah, some people don't. Yeah, they just

look up. You know. One of the very latest thing is my Instagram be like, oh I was doing what is he? Okay, let's be real right, yes that Um that show. I wasn't even sure whether it was going to come together and it did. Uh and uh, it was super fun to make and we and I don't know if it's doing well or it's Yeah, when I watched it, I was like, oh that was much more. That was super pleasant to do and it was really fun.

I got to meet a night a bunch of cool new people and I think there was some good jokes and um, he was remarkably cool about everything and the production company was great. So uh, like the sets were way too nice, which you know it was e So I was I was used to like, I'll just bring a set with me. I got I got something in the back of my garage. Um, But it was. Yeah, it was a remarkably fun experience. I will I didn't.

I didn't know what to expect, really, because you don't when it's all coming together for the first time, you're like, oh, I was gonna then yeah, no shows. You know, you see people kind of in the heat of the moment, and I think when when you ask those questions and you bring your humor, it adds more of a more of a human element to it than just you know the the Yes, the food is secondary. Food is secondary to that. Was any good food? Oh? Yeah, someone was

really good. Some of it wasn't um, but this food Like I love food shows, and believe me, I watched them and I like them, but this particular one was not. It wasn't about really the best food. It was more about screwing around and having a good Sometimes we need that. Yeah,

I would say all the time. Amen, Okay, we have to take one more quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk more about how you personally define success in this crazy industry and also the fine line of being a collector or a holder, because I heard you like to keep a lot of stuff. We'll be right back and we're back, know You've done quite a bit in your career. You've done meet movies, you've done shows.

There is a sense of like what is success? You know, people have different definitions for it, whether it's getting like number one, or if it's success within like if you're content with it? How do you define success? Let's be real, man, boy,

uh you can. It gets measured in different ways, and you know our country measured it measures it in you know, through a pretty simple capitalists view of like, well, if you make it big within money, then your success and then we all know that that is usually a disaster. But it really it is such a cliche. But I feel successful in the fact that the woman whom I married continues to want to be married to me. That's

always good. Yeah, So that got that one. I have two sons that engaging conversation and hang out, so I'm like that you hang out with your kids, that's like okay, and their teenagers. Yeah, and I'm like that's pretty good. Pretty good. So like I look at that, I'm like, okay, and then I heard it years ago. But like happy wife, happy life is very true, and that more just comes down to, like if you are trying to please your partner, it's going to go. Well, if you're both doing that, Oh,

it's great. Uh so that's great. I gotta keep it like you're always dating. Yeah, because like what could and if you if you tend that garden, it'll grow. Um so is marriage fun? Would you say? Would you recommend it? We we've been together a long time. We still look at each other like, look at us, like we live with each other. Here we are and we have kids. Yeah, and we have we've made kids. Look at us like a house and cars and stuff. Look at us, we're

like adults. There's still that sense of it. I've really it's great. I'm so lucky. And if you met my wife, you'd be like you got the best one. And and I did, I really did. So there's that whole wonderful thing. In our culture, they go every parents like, oh, I just want my kid to be happy. So there's that.

That's the end the marine culture. And then they said, like in Asian culture, they go, I want my kid to be successful, and it's like the I think the and then someone said, both of those are very problematic because you can't guarantee any of it. And well, and like if you can't guarantee happiness or just create it.

That's not something that's possible. And then all being successful you I guess you can, but but no, it should be it should be like this front of I was like, you want your kids to be good good, like with a capital G, because you can't control all that other stuff. So yeah, be good to each other, you know, love one another. As far as like work goes, I you know, like there was a time when I was like, oh, if I can just get on the show like this, if I can just do this, that with doing it,

it's fallen away. So now I like doing stuff I like. So it sounds so simple, but I'm like that was like playing Starman on UH in Star Girl was really rewarding. Uh and so I was like, that was super fun, great people. I loved playing the character. I look back on that as like that was really really a cool experience and so thank you Jeff John's, creator of the show, and break Passenger lead to the show. Anyway, that's a very long way to come there. There's things you can

like for success. I'm like, oh, I have a car that I love. I'm like, that is a measure of my success. And then I bought another one, and there we go, and then it just kept going. When I go to a grocery store, I'm not like worried about the price of this to that, and I'm like, oh, that used to be used to be very stressed out about that, and so that it's a weird measure, like getting a menu at a restaurant to go out, and yeah,

so that's so. Those were little things where I would remember, like always trying to find the cheapest gas in Seattle when I was growing up. Prices now, well, no, I mean this is this is the nineties. So what was in the nineties two and a half dollars three dollars and that was a lot people like I remember when it was fifty cents, but gas prices have come down so much they have Yeah, my wife, that's a tesla, and I was like, oh, this really does make a difference.

Have you played the Mario Kart in the tesla? I have not, So you can park the car and play Mario Karts. I would do that and just go And if you ever want to do like a date night moment, there is a romantic fire mode where heat or like a wood place fire burning and then he comes out and he comes out of it. It will be perfect for the weather these days, so perfect, it's what you

need for degrees just to add to it. Yeah, we're taping this when when the valley is turning into a i don't know, uninhabitable hellscape breaking it's going to be a hundred and five on Saturday. Yeah, Like I'll tweet something about how high the temperature is, and then people in Phoenix come to Phoenix and I was like, that's why I'm not in Phoenix. There's a reason I live here because I don't want it to be I know about Phoenix, but I don't want to go to Phoenix.

It's very hot. I hosted an outdoor event at night in Phoenix in the summer. Why would you? Why would you put yourself through? Because I got asked by Phoenix Suns and I'm like, yes, I'll totally do it and burn everything off. But it's okay. It was during the night. I mean it was like and I was like, it's all it's ninety eight degrees right now and it's night, it's ten. What are we doing here? What's happening? It's not safe. You've done some cool stuff in your life

I get to say yes. I definitely. When I was on Community, I knew that, like NBC Sports would show all the tennis. So I was like, can I get a ticket? Can we get tickets to the Wimbledon? Now? Like yeah, yeah, And they were like, we're not gonna fly you there. I'm like, I didn't want to be flown there, but you can actually get me a take it. They're like, yeah, it's just the World Opening. That's where I take. I definitely ask for free stuff, so I'll be like, if I could, should should And yeah, my

my house is full of my white drafts are crazy. Uh. Would you say you're a hoarder. I'm a quality hoarder. That's what a collector is. There's a very fine line between collector hoarder. I collect a lot of stuff, but knives and swords, swords. I have a lot of swords. That's going back to my boyhood. Yeah, it's really wait do people know about this? Okay? Swords? When did this start? When I was a child, my dad brought a bunch

of stuff back from the Middle East and from Italy. Uh, And I was just as a kid, I was like, I was always fascinated by it. Yeah, any other hobbies or things that people might not know. Well, No, I talk about all. I mean I collect wine. I like that. That's good. Uh, you have to moderate it. I buy a lot of everything. I just bought. I don't know, Like I realized we ran out of pepper sixteen bags. Do you just go like like have a great membership at Costco? No, I just buy mostly online. So I've

put it that in a store. I got a little storage place for food and like cleaning supplies, and I'll be like, we're not going to run out of that anytime soon. How many hats do you have? So many thousands? Do you have a storage unit for I have to throw them out? No, I don't have a storage I don't have t Do you know how much money you make on that? You know if you sell your hats? Oh? No one would who cares about you'd be surprised. Um on where? Okay? So there are two places Posh Posh

Mark and deep Pop. You literally just upload your clothes, put a price tag, and I think just because of your name, people will buy it. Okay, and you'll make a ship ton of money from your use hats. I'll do it. I'll let you have to write those down or you know, I can run the account. Great, I'll give you a percentage. Hey, it's a business. I probably have like like I probably you know, I probably had

a hundred different hats easily. And so because I just keep buying them, it's not like I'm wearing it's not like I keep them in. So we need to figure out a way where you can keep buying them and then there's just like a system where they're going out the true Yeah, no, there should because I end up. I don't know if you're like me, but I wear the same things over and over again, and I got shipped tons of clothes. I would never do that. I would never wear the same jumper like three times in

a week. Never, never, never. And you don't have like one other I don't have this in pink too? Why would I Why you would never wear it all the time? I would buy the same thing twice. That would be crazy. That would be something if you did a thing where you had a tracer on my clothes, it would just be multiple workout shorts, two pairs of you only wear athletic clothes? Is that your staple wardrobe? That is yes?

And I'm sure. My wife finds it super attractive just because I wear the same thing around the house sometimes if it's not broken wife fixing. Yes, But then it's like, oh, we're going to a party. Oh what I like this workout tome? What do we work what are we gonna wear? Yeah, there's a lot of that. So anyway, that's a long way to say I should just burn my clothing and hats because I wear the same dee pop, I think. I think it's another it's another Hey, it's another side business,

another hustle my life motto. Why not? Yeah? Why am I not? All right? You can run the account. That sounds all right, that sounds great, So make sure you check out his deep pop here that guy. Um, thank you so much for taking the time to come podcast. Thank you. We are half we're at the halfway point. We're at the halfway point. We finished what all right? I know? Like an Angels game? What happened? I know, it's just it goes by. Time goes by when you're

having fun, time goes by. What time we got here? Alright? One eight eight? Amaze, I showed up late and it's one forty eight. All right, we did it. We did it