Featuring Claudia Sulewski

from vlogs to lifestyle. She's also done some amazing collaborations and her newest venture is starring and I Love My Dad, which is a movie that just wrapped production a few months ago and it hasn't come out, but we talked all about that, having a healthy balance with social media, therapy, anxiety, journaling, life, her relationship with Phineas, and so much more. I hope you guys like this week's episode. Claudia, I'm so thrilled

that you're in my podcast. First of all, I just realized this is like the first time a couple is coming on because we had Phineas in season one and now you're here in season three. I know, that's awesome. I feel like we need to then have a reunion where we're all together, the three of us on the same conversation. Yeah, we should. And you know what I've been I've watched your videos. I sink like five years now,

so I love your channel. I love the way you edit um and you've been on social media for so many years, and I know you can relate to this. Being on social media at any age can be difficult with everything that it's surrounded by. What has it been like being on social media for so long, but also trying to keep like the same mental health. What's interesting,

I think is social media changes so much. I feel like it kind of didn't really exist when I first started making YouTube videos, so I guess thinking about what my headspace was and where I thought this was all going when it first started versus now is so different because when I started YouTube, I'm not sure Instagram really

existed yet or it had just come into play. TikTok didn't exist, and it felt like I think the shift was like I treated social media as this thing where I'm putting these things out and I am editing cute videos and having so much fun in the creation process and dumping it somewhere, and now social media has become this like bigger beast where you're creating, you are also you know, watching and taking in other people's content, and

you're also communicating. I was talking about this with my friend the other day, how like we feel that social media breaks are really healthy, right, just just getting off Instagram for a few days or whatever. But now there's this component where like I have so many people in my life that I only DM and that's like our source of communication. Interesting, so then what do you do? It's like the new text message, it really is. I So I just started college, and something I'm realizing is

everyone they don't ask for your number. They only ask for your snapchat, which is so odd to me because I just deleted snaptrat Instagram. By the way, I didn't delete my accounts. I was just like, I need a break. But like it goes to show the people that actually care about you will text you definitely, and the people that don't really you know, have an interest, will just send you random photos and won't even have a conversation. It's just it's odd. There is definitely like a difference

in the platforms. I feel with d m NG exactly what you're saying, it's like sharing a photo or commenting on something or just giving it a heart, while text messaging now is like this commitment where if you've made a friend on social media and you exchange numbers, You're like, oh, we're going there. It's like a true friendship. And then if you go to FaceTime, Oh my goodness, a hundred percent. Are you a big facetimer? Do you FaceTime friends every day?

You know? I think so, because I forget. There's just something about it that forces me to be more present, because when I'm on the phone and I'm doing something, I can so easily be distracted. When I'm looking in someone else's face, It's just more personal and I like talking to faces instead of just like audio, if that makes any sense, What about you? I totally agree. I'm such a fan of FaceTime. Phineas is on tour right now,

so we are constantly facetiming all the time. Although the feature of being able to swipe away and still have the little person, you know, the little bugs, but it's on pause? Is it on pause now? Or can you think it is? Because sometimes I'm looking at his face and I'm like, you are not, you are not looking, You're not, you are not you are reading a text messager. So it's when that eye glances Yeah, exactly exactly. Um, but I totally agree. I think FaceTime is like the

optimal prime communication experience. Um. And it's like the closest to real life, which is great. And also like I mean truly, I feel like I learned this throughout COVID, but like everyone is a FaceTime away, and it's crazy how connected you can feel after even just like a ten minute conversation. It's one button away, put that on a shirt. Um. So we love it for that reason.

But to jump back to like social media and kind of maintaining sanity, right and all of that, and I think we are just like living in a world where we are all sharing our lives, whether you are an influencer, creator, actor, you know, whatever is bringing you to social media, or if you just mostly like a watch or a listener exactly all these things. Um, I don't know, it's tricky.

I was thinking about this recently about like the contrast of like I feel like sometimes we post to feel seen or for people to see that we are busy, we are doing things, or Hi, look I'm happy and I yeah, it's to prove something, yeah, And it's like and then there's another version where you know, you you have a photo that makes you really happy or you are documenting a memory and you want to share it,

and that's the really pure side of it. It is such a double edged sword, and I feel like every single day is sort of like a little bit different, And um, I think I fall in both categories. I think we all do. And yeah, so I don't know what the answer is. I'm still figuring that out. I think everybody is. But it's hard to when you want to post something, but then it's so easy to get caught up in the oh my goodness, this didn't get any likes. Oh my goodness, I had to delete this.

Turn off your legs, That's what I did. And you just post what you want to post. That's what I say. That's what I'm trying to the place I'm trying to get to. Have you seen the social Yes, I turned off my Instagram and Snapchat notifications since I've watched it, and I don't have them on anymore, and I only have my like, Gmail and text and that's it. Amazing.

Same here. I the notification setting that I had on before watching that was like anyone who I follow, if they comment or like anything, I would see all of it. And I just like, do not need to know what time someone is liking something like if I am really that curious, I can go to the photo and I can click on view more under the likes and like, see, oh cool, cool cool. I don't need to see the

moment it's happening, you know, So same here. I'm glad that we're all going through that because I feel like it's one of those things where I've noticed, just in the short time I've been at college, just how much time everybody is on their phones, including me. So I'm trying to cut back. I'm really in a space right now where I'm trying to be the best version of myself, where I'm trying to grow. And something I love about

your channel is you're documenting your whole process. Um, I know you've gone into journal journaling, and I'm really trying to get into it. What are your tips because I have trouble like it's not doing, it's starting to do. It's like sitting down designating the time. Does it really help? Would you say? Okay? I love it? And honestly, it's one of those if you're looking at it as like a form of therapy, it is something that can it

can make you feel different ways, like I think it is. Um, it's like untruthful to be like it's going to make you feel amazing all the time, because sometimes like the times when I really need a journal or when I'm at a low point and and then journaling it like makes me sadder. But there at the end of the day, I just like love recording and writing down like where I'm at, you know, on a specific day or in

a specific moment, because I love looking back. I mean, I think that's like partially why I've made my YouTube channel so personal and and very vlog styles because I just love like being able to record these memories. You can see your growth as a human, which is awesome. That's crazy. It is very trippy to go back on videos and see like what I was interested in reading and what I'm talking about and the way that I'm speaking, Like, I don't know, we just like change and evolve in

so many different ways. But I think with journal this is what I'll say, um, and I'm like trying to do this to myself or for myself with reading right now, which is like give yourself smaller hills to climb. So like, journaling can definitely feel very intimidating. What do you write about how many pages. Like people talk about like do morning pages three pages a day. I rarely am journaling three pages a day. That is only if I'm like

on one, I'm like caffeine's running through the veins. I'm like, yeah,

I got so much right. But I think like giving yourself um, just like literally the shortest, smallest prompts of like one of my favorite things to do is, um, let's say it's like at the start of a week, I'll just write, I'll write the date, and I'll write like more of, less of, and I'll just write more of and then just list things that like have brought me joy or things that I want to do more and then just like less of things that haven't brought me joy, you know, less of staying up too late,

less of you know, whatever it is people pleasing I don't know like, And I think giving yourself like a few questions like that gives you that format of like because sometimes it's you're just like, I don't know what to write, and other times I just make a list of things that I'm like grateful for, and that puts me in a that is definitely like the most rewarding I think in the moment, because being grateful, is it really just kind of like put things into perspective. Yeah, yeah, totally.

So I think start like give yourself no expectations on like writing pages and pages and pages. That is not what it is. I use my journal to write like list to do list, like literally anything. Sometimes I draw, and I think that's what it's fun, is like dedicating a journal to literally dumping whatever you want in it.

I think also like my like perfectionism wants me to like stay in theme with what I am writing, and I'm like, okay, well right, You're like, well, if I'm going to draw on this journal, then I'm gonna have a separate journal for the draw. And it's like you just have to release that and be like like I literally have my drawl right here. I'm like, this girly has everything in it. And the way that I organize it in my brain is I'm like, this is my girly. Love that, and she stays with me and I write

whatever I want in it. And I think releasing that sort of feeling of like needing to organize really kind of like sets you for you a little bit, I know, And I think I honestly think we have a lot in common because I know you did a whole video about being in a funk, and girl, do I relate to that because I don't know if it's a combination of just like being in a pandemic for a year and a half or like just growing as a human.

But you want to better yourself, but sometimes like I saw your video and I related to it and just like I feel like I want to get a bunch done, but then I don't. I feel worse if I don't. Yeah, I mean that all falls into like giving yourself the smaller like hills to climb. I think, Um, I don't know, it's really tricky, Like I'm I'm personally coming into understanding that I for so long have like based my value

and worth on my productivity. Um, I don't know where that came into play with my childhood, but that's certainly where I found most worth. And I'm like kind of re um, I don't know, I'm like trying to rewire in myself and be like no, no, no, that's so

incredible though that you're doing that. Yeah, And it's I think we're just like in this time of life where like hustle culture is just like very you know, it's seen as like that you are you are killing it, if you are busy, if you are productive, if you're

doing a million things. But I think like finding joy and just like doing things for yourself and just letting yourself relax, like that's really important, and I for so long would feel so guilty about it, or like if I have slower periods in life, I'm like, oh my gosh,

I'm not doing enough. Oh my gosh. And it's like always just like remembering to give yourself the perspective of just like if things are feeling slower or if things are feeling less chaotic, like eventually things will pick back up for a season of life and you will look back and be like, oh my gosh, I had all the time to like get into all those books I told myself I was going to read. I had all the time to like focus on, uh, doing hikes or

like whatever. I think. It's just it's like so perspective and that's what I'm telling myself. And I think we're all experiencing a lot of that, definitely through COVID. I think like COVID forced a lot of us to look inward and now that we're in this like in between where things are opening back up and we're like re establishing our relationship to like balancing life. Yeah exactly. Um, Like I personally have been like going really crazy on like socializing. I'm trying to get I think I'm trying

to repay all the lost time. And you know that's tricky too, because sometimes you just need it yourself. It's listening to like your body and what you need, which it can be really hard. And I think social media exacerbates the household culture because you see everybody coming out with a new line or new this or knew then it's like, you know, sometimes you just need time for yourself to grow. And that's just as productive I feel like.

And that's to be reminded of a And I think also, like back to what I was saying about, like feeling the need to post on social media to feel seen by others. It's like, at the end of the day, if you are not genuinely happy and feeling just present and grateful and fulfilled in all those things, like that is where the source should be coming from. Those are the questions for yourself to be answering for yourself, not for others, you know what I mean. Absolutely, I'm a

big proponent of therapy. I've been in therapy since I was like on and off there was like eight that's amazing, and I am so grateful for that because I've learned so much about myself and how I grow. You talked about the therapy where you put these like electros on your Can you please tell me more about this cause I'm very curious. I literally just came home from an appointment, like I just had it done this morning. Okay, wait,

please explain. So Okay, So it's called neurofeedback, and it is something that like is becoming more widely known, but I certainly I have never heard of it, and it's sort of you hear it and you're like this little life hack, like this sounds like kind of life hack right here? It really does, it really does. So I got introduced to it through Phineas because his therapist like specializes in it. But there's I guess there are therapists all around that do it. Like it's definitely becoming more

and more popular. But basically neuro feedback, there's like two stages of it. The first one is they're like taking all these little electro things and sticking them all around your head because like basically you're different parts of your brain obviously are in different locations, and so she kind of she's very specific about where she puts everything, because

every part has a different purpose. And the first thing that she does, I'm saying she because his therapists woman, and she UM essentially like sends off a very low frequency. And at first I was like, this is us. This

is scary. This does not sound uh safe, but it's actually like the amount of UM doesn't our computers exactly exactly, and like so the wavelengths that it's sending are so low they are like I forgot the the actual number, but it is the smallest fraction of what like literally these headphones are emitting or a cell phone, and it's so low that your brain is able to pick up and read on it because all the other devices around us are so high that our brain is like no, no no, no,

we're not at that speed, so we don't care about that. So it's low enough for your brain to actually interact with the waves. And so like the first the first few sessions of it, she's like emitting a very low frequency just to see what the brain is sending off, and so it catches the size of the wavelengths and the speed, which basically shows, um, how how developed you are in those areas, and then how hard you're working

in those areas. And so you're like fully having a graph displayed in front of you showing you what areas of your brain are least developed. And so in that case, it would be like suppression. Um so where like your brain has decided, oh, I don't really need to develop

this area. So for me, like just sort of with my childhood and my environment, like, for example, my emotional suppression is like the smallest little sliver because at some point in my formative years I told myself, I don't I need to take after others and not be so concerned with my emotions. My emotions don't matter, and so my emotional suppression is like this tiny little sliver and it's it's wild to see it. It's validating, but it's

also like, yeah, validates everything you think. It totally does. And it's interesting because then like the analytical and critical side of my brain was like super super high. If anything, it was like hypo suppressed, which was like over the standard, so it was like blue. Everything else is like super Origin small, super blue. So um. Basically, she explained like, oh, you are doing a lot of your emotional processing through the critical side of your brain, because you're essentially telling

yourself how you should be feeling about things. And I was like, yes, I do that. I'm always talking myself into how I should be feeling about things. So once she does all of that, you like learn all of it. And now I'm in this process where she's starting to tweak the frequencies because essentially, like there is a healthy frequency at which your brain should be operating at and um. Essentially like she sends it off and then your brain listens to that and it decides like, oh I like

this more, so I'm gonna I'm gonna match this. And eventually, if you do it enough, your brain will learn like, oh I really like this this speed and I like this wavelength. And so what it's eventually supposed to do is just sort of like help rewire your brain and help remind your brain that it doesn't need to suppress

these different areas. And what's crazy about it too, is like it has helped cure so many different conditions and diseases, Like she's had patients that can hear better, or like, um, someone used to one of her patients like used to know Chinese and like completely forgot it because she blacked out her childhood and then one day she woke up and like remembered the entire language. It's like, I can speak Chinese again. So it's like kind of going into

your subconscious a little bit. Yeah, Like it's it definitely. It's not like creating any superpowers for you, but if there's anything that your brain has chosen to hold back, like it can help open that door again and be like hey, it's okay to you know, like access this again. It's really crazy. And so it's it's like helped people with memory or yeah, any hearing loss or like site, Um, I have really bad um like selective hearing. And I'm

that's the thing that I am hoping. Like sometimes like Phineas and I will just be hanging out and we'll be having a full bown conversation. In the middle of the sentence, I'm like, oh my god, I have no idea what he's talking about. I don't know what what why that's happening. But I that is the thing that I'm hoping that I can relate to that because so I have my learning disabilities processing, so I have dealt without my entire life. So I feel you on that.

Oh my gosh. It's very frustrating because I'm often having to ask people to repeat themselves. And it's not that you're not listening. It's just that your brain genuinely can't take in the information and process it. But it's like you here be you can't process it, yes, all the time, and like or I'll hear someone say a word and I'm like and I'll be like, wait, did you just say blah blah blah? And it isn't an English word at all, and they're like, what how did you get

that from that? Like, I don't know. I feel you on that. Okay, we have to take a quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk about your hobbies outside of acting in YouTube, what you love about storytelling, your relationship with Phineas, and so much more. We'll be right back and we're back. Something that I've like, try to find his outlets to um turning shitty situations into something art Like that's how this podcast came about came out from my anxiety. Um so that's what I've

been trying to do. But do you have I know you paint. I know you have a bunch of hobbies. Is there a hobby during quarantine that you picked up?

Oh hobby that Oh my gosh. I feel like not even specifically like painting creatively, but I did a lot of like wall painting the COVID, Like I I decided that I wanted to like paint my entire office and painting an entire room wout as an individual, and also like I think the reason why I didn't want to hire anyone to do it because I was like, I don't want to take the furniture out and like covering and cover it all up like I can do it wall by wall, and um I just like d I

Y queen a d I Y queen. And it was, oh my gosh, it took so long, but also I found like so much peace in it, like just when you go all out and you get like the big roller and like the pan and you're just like it's also a workout too. So weirdly enough, I found myself painting a lot of walls during COVID. I like also painted my bathroom and now I'm thinking of painting our master bathroom. I have like the paint can like sitting there staring at me every day, and I'm like, what

if I just cracked it open? But if I just no, no, no, I should hire someone. I should just hire someone. But what if I just did it myself? Mean what you should do? Then? While I was painting what I got obsessed with Bob Ross for the pandemic, And of course I watched his videos to call asleep. But if you go to Bob Ross Incorporated his like website, you can buy all his paints, his brushes, his canvases, everything. And then what I would do is I'd watch Bob rossors

and paint with him. Huh. And I actually they came out well, like really well, and you use his paints everything. But I saw a YouTube video where a girl did a Bob Ross painting on a wall, which could be fun to do. I saw that, I know, oh my gosh, that I wish I had the I think for me, like I would just feel like that's that's too much happening on one wall, Like I like things like so clean and minimalistics, or I'll just get the Barbara us

like kit and paint girl. It's great that Yeah, that is really that is like really really good information to know. I feel like going into paint vers is very inating. Yeah, because you're like acrylic versus oil, satin versus shine versus matt and you're just like where do I begin? Yeah. And also I'm a perfectionist, so like whenever I get stressed about doing a painting, Bob Ross was like, there's no mistakes, only happy accidents, and I was like, thanks, Bob.

He was really calming me down when I was painting. Wow, I should really. I feel like I've never like dove into that world, but do it. It's so clear. Yeah, it's so clear that it's like only a low risk, high reward like experience because they come out beautiful. And I've seen like YouTubers do like, yeah, let me see your let me see your paintings. I feel like I've seen so many YouTubers like painting to Bob Ross and it comes out almost exactly to what Keep in mind,

I'm not a painter. Okay, so this is without having ever really painted. This is okay, So this was this is for my senior thing. We were drawing on the sidewalk. Anyways, I drew this was my first one I ever did. It wasn't on the canvas boos that on this sidewalk. If you can kind of see stunning the classic trees, the classic and that was just with charcoal. That was with charcoal. That's crazy. Bob ros is a great teacher. Wow. So you were just like following everything but with charcoal.

Does he have charcoal tutorials? No? I was just kind of figuring it out as I went because I need something to like drive my brain. Sometimes I find it very helpful. Oh my gosh. Well, I'm going to look into his website. I mean, Bob Bars not sponsored, but Bob Bras. I love you, we love you. Another weird parallel we have is that you moved to l A when you're eighteen. I just moved here from New York and nineteen. And I know you used to do like red carpet stuff for Team Vogue. I did that for

Radio Disney. So I feel like we have this weird like similar like parallels happening, parallels happening definitely. And something that I've always been really inspired by your videos is just how driven you are in your work ethic and just getting stuff done because what people don't realize is they just see the finished product, but how much work it takes into just creating a video. You know, it's coming up with the concept, it's producing it, it's editing,

it's being in it. What is the process like to stay so driven and not not loose sight of like your end goal because it can be hard when you see like fourteen year olds making millions of dollars from just doing these dances on TikTok. Definitely, I think like that was the evolution of YouTube that none of us could really um anticipate for anyone that started way back

in the day. Because you're an o G. I feel like and I feel like right around the time I moved out was when we really started seeing like viral videos were definitely a thing. Like I think that's like what started YouTube, Like the man there was like a video at the zoo or something like, but specifically like the clickbait culture and like the explosions and like like

when all of that sort of came into play. I think for me because when I when I started YouTube, it came from such an authentic place of just like this is so fun. For me, this is fascinating, Um, I want to do this for fun. Like, I think

a huge part of me held onto that. I definitely understood that it had become my job and I had to there were responsibilities with that and taking it seriously, but also like, yeah, I think when I started seeing that shift, it never felt authentic and like sometimes honestly look back and I'm like, damn, maybe I maybe I should have jumped on like some of those trends right just in terms of like the types of videos that we're doing really well or everyone was collaborating, and I

was always like, that's not you exactly at the end of the day, like it's so clear that I didn't have interest in it, And looking back at it now, I guess like I look at all my videos and like, of course I'm younger, and so there's embarrassment in that, but like, genuinely, I'm so proud of everything that I've made, and I think like holding onto that, I guess like integrity for for lack of a less dramatic word, it it's like allowed me to be really proud of my

YouTube videos and be proud of the platform. And I think that's helped to maintain this uh like healthy relationship that I have with it now where it doesn't feel like gimmicky or slimy or like any of these sorts of things. You know, and like strictly from a viewer perspective, it comes across because you can go through any of your videos and you see the common theme, which is

just you. It's it's you could tell it's not trying to be anybody else, and that's refreshing, especially in the world where everything is so saturated with the exact same thing. So I think it's so great what you're doing. What do you love about storytelling? Oh? Um, the thing that oh gosh, I mean honestly, like this is where I geek out. I feel like I love every single different

component coming together. I feel that, I think because I I really I really like I see myself as an editor first, because I just love the editing process, because I feel like that is like that is like the moment where you're the chef in the kitchen and you're like adding and piecing everything together, putting the story together exactly. And I often I'll hear sometimes like I'll just go through like different because we have to use world two

free music. I'll go through like world two free websites or whatever SoundCloud and I will like find a song. This was my process back in the day when I made like a lot of look books where I'd find a song and I did envision like what I could

see with it, and then shoot based on the song. Um. Nowadays, because my content is more like just personal, I'll kind of like cut everything together, find something that feels harmonious, like with the footage, and then just like play around from there and like cut to the beat and then like give every every video a theme and all this stuff.

And now it's like getting into like acting more and stuff Like I find myself like getting so excited about that because it's like on this bigger scale with like the project I just shot. I'd be like, you know, you should really have like this sort of song with this, and he's like, oh my god, you're so right and so collaboration, you know what, as a YouTube as someone who's been yes, you're doing everything alone, and that has been like the most I just I love working with people.

It is really fun to allow yourself to like trust others and work on one thing together because get off each other totally, totally. It's so refreshing. I think like that is definitely what's keeping me, I guess like motivated these days and inspired and excited, because if you're yeah, it sometimes can feel very like isolating, kind of bouncing

ideas only with yourself. Um, and I feel like I've definitely sometimes I'm like, Okay, well, I could be sitting down with friends and like brain storming videos together and stuff. But I think when you're just so used to being able to rely on yourself for so long, you get stuck in that. So it's it's nice to be forced to like collaborate and like work with the community of people and stuff. And I'm very excited about this film.

I love my dad because thank you. First of all, what people don't realize that I tried to spread I have a bunch of friends or actors. Auditioning is the full time job in itself, and then if you get booked in my brain, but I feel like people, I feel like I need to preface that because well, what would you say your ratio it's per auditions? How many? Oh my gosh, well okay, truly, I don't even know what the ratio would be, but I can I can

confirm that I've been on like thousands of auditions. It is so that whole process is so wild, and you really, like I feel like in order to stay we're talking

about like the sanity of social media. Meanwhile, with auditions, that is the bigger beast that I'm trying to tackle, and I think it's like it's really I feel very fortunate in the fact that, like, I have many different things going on, and so I try every time I go into an audition for room or if I'm prepping for like a self tape, just reminding myself to have fun.

I think it is so easy to sense that in a room, and I genuinely feel like the projects that I have booked were the projects that I've gone like super far along the process, are the ones where I'm like, I'm just gonna have fun. I'm never going to get this,

you know. And having that approach really helps with the constant rejection because that is just the industry that it is, and there are so many people going out for the same role, and there are so many factors that are like outside of yourself, that are not in your control, so not about you, and it's so hard to realize

that too, I know a hundred percent. And it's like, so it's it's tricky, It's yeah, there are lots of auditions all the time, lots of many many many, um and and yeah that is just a part of it and accepting that and just being game. I think also, like you know, we're talking about how perspective is everything. I think too for anyone that is like trying to get into acting and um, wanting to take it seriously

and everything. I think also like looking at every audition as an opportunity to show face in front of a new casting director or like I just meeting people if a thing a hundred percent, and I think like things always come full circle. There have been so many moments where like there's a project that I that I've recently been attached to, I can't realize anything about it because I'm like crossing my fingers that it happens. But they

will manifest manifest. But they had seen like older tapes of mind that furroles I never booked, but they were like, I loved your tape for this specific thing, and and that's how we knew you were the right person for that. And so you just never know where your efforts are like really going to come back in your direction, you know, and it's it's really hard to feel like you're at least I feel this way where like you're behind. Yeah.

So we had Wayne Brady on he was that he kicked off the season three and he said, um, you're right where you're supposed to be. You're not ahead of anyone, You're not behind. And that's something that I'm constantly having to tell myself because it's so eat. We're in a world where it's so easy to compare yourself and especially with social immediate and I think if we all just realize that we're all on our own path, there's room for everybody. Yep, there shouldn't be any competition because we're

all on our own journey. And also to add to that, like don't compare your chapter one to someone's like chapter twenty. I think like, especially in the beginning, I used to totally look up to like different actresses and think like, oh my gosh, I wish I was booking these sorts of roles and stuff. And then I look back at it and I'm like, they've been acting since they were five, and I have been acting for only five years, you know, and and remembering that as well, that it's like a dent.

Everyone is on their own path. Everyone is on a different part, in a different chapter of their journey. And like, I think you're totally right that there's room for everyone. I just in terms of like content opportunities, platforms, mediums, like we are at a time where there is so much of it, truly, and um, I think that it's great. It's very very fruitful and I and it's really encouraging

because there's, yeah, there's just like so much happening. Okay, Claudia, we have to take one more quick break, but when we come back, I want to talk to about the difference between working alone, like creating YouTube content versus being in a movie and working with production teams and having that collaborative process Phineas and so much more. While we're right back and we're back, we're also living in a

world where instant gratification is everything. Post you get the instant gratification of likes, but when you're working on a movie or developing these projects that won't see the light of day for a long time, oh my gosh, you really have to like practice patients a what has that been like for you because you can just post a video and then get that instant gratification. But I love, I Love My Dad doesn't even have a set release

date yet, I know it is. Yeah, that is one of you know what I think, Um, I think having patience for those things. And I often feel like the things that take the most time like they're taking the most time for a reason. I mean, of course, like a YouTube video versus a feature film very different, and I think it's just a little bit different. Um, And I think like it just it's a sign of like

how precious it helps. It's exciting, like just having this build up because it's it's helping me just like continue to appreciate the opportunity and what it is and and hopefully what it becomes and what people's reaction will will be to it. And I feel like, like, don't you sort of feel like in terms of the immediate gratification.

So there's like posting a photo maybe one of the easiest things you can really do right, and you get it immediately, and then it's like a YouTube video or a pot cast episode, there's like a little bit more time and there's a little bit more time into the editing and then the release of it and then okay, great, now it's here, and it's like, so I don't know, I feel like the things that take a long time, Um, it's instant gratification kind of goes away because you're kind

of like okay and just put it out, Like that's how I feel at this point. Yeah, and totally and like also, don't you feel like with the things that do give you immediate gratification you get over it sooner because you got it so fast, you know, you're like all right, onto the next That's a really good point, Claudia, because I'm thinking about it, and I got the most satisfaction. The most satisfaction was when we launched season one because that was the most length of time it took. My goodness,

I haven't thought of that. It's sort of like works both ways, like it'll it takes the most time leading up to it and then like just keeps you so fulfilled and like grateful for it also just continuing on past its life, you know, like like an album for example, right, like it'll take a couple of years to produce, but then the shell life is years and years, if not decades, which is so great with that. Yeah, what would you say, the best piece of advice you've received, Oh, the best

piece of advice I've ever received. Um, I think like the reoccurring theme that I'm having for myself right now, or like what I'm reminding myself. And I definitely hurt somewhere. I don't know by who, but it's like, at the end of the day, all you have is you, like you, You are there when you are born, you are there every single day with yourself. You are there to the

end of your days. And I think, like that's really important because I find that I like often lose myself in my environment and my surroundings, like whoever I'm talking to or you know, my relationship or my friendships, like I often give so much of I'm a big people pleaser and I'm working on it and it's gotten way better. Girl. I feel that. See, I knew we had a lot in comment. I just knew it. I know we're like

unveiling all the onions. Layers are unpeeling, I know, and I so I just feel that I often lose myself and sort of give up all these self sacrifices in order to make sure everyone around me is comfortable and like that is definitely a great quality to have, but knowing where your limit is, um, it's really important. Like my therapist, Uh, this is like a few months ago,

but it just hit me so hard. I one time like flipped a question to her and I was like, if you're stuck in a position where you know you're going to disappoint someone or you can just sort of disappoint yourself by like you know, pleasing them, Like, are

you always choosing to disappoint the other person? And she was like, and I was like really like even like I know, I'm like, but what if it's like a really big deal for the person, Like it, let's say it's their birthday or whatever, and you just don't have a lot of energy, But it's fine, you can suck it up, and you can. And she's like, if you keep this pointing yourself, eventually you will just disappoint everyone.

And that's stuck with me because rights like if you keep just giving and giving your time and your energy, if you don't give yourself the time to like fuel up and and have be full enough to be able to give, Like there's a big difference between giving and pleasing. Pleasing is like an I lose you in situation because I am taking from essentially like just there's nothing of me, Like I am just taking pieces of me because there

is nothing extra in there too. And then on the other side of it, giving is like when you have enough to share, and it's an eye win you in situation. And so I think that is really important, Like our relationship with ourselves and what we're saying to ourselves literally like affects the way that we are seeing everything and

like interpreting everything a hundred per scent. And I think that, like, I think that is my answer, my very long answer to your question, because it impacts like every aspect of life. Would you say, now that Phineas is on tour, you're having some time to just reflect because I know, I'm sure you're going to go to some tour dates, but that's that's a whole other thing, because I'm sure you want to go to as many shows as you can and be a supportive partner and all that, but at

the same time, I got to focus on you. So this tour kind of it's really perfect how it's laid out. So I've had like roughly this whole week without him, which, like you know, in the moment when you're saying goodbye, you're so sad and you're like, oh my god, I'm gonna miss you just since makes the heart grow fonder, though exactly, it is so important to have that balance,

and so I have been high key loving and vibing. Yes, having the house to myself, been loving it, just like even in terms of like choosing, Wow, what breakfast I want to eat? Choosing will show you want to watch? We'll show I want to watch, what time I want to walk the dog, you know, all these little things that usually are very communal decisions for us. Um So

that has been really fun. And then next week I'm flying to Chicago for the Chicago Show since my parents lived there, and then after that I have another week to myself, which I'm excited about as well. It's like the perfect amount of like, yeah, what has it been like having such a public relationship. So that's a that's

a beast in itself, I know, it really is. And I truly feel like we got so lucky with each other because we were kind of we're talking about this the other day and saying, like, it's pretty wild that we are both are feeling about like being public about dating, Like we're so happy that we're on the same page with it. Um, you know, because we have certain friends that are in relationships and you just like didn't even tell online, which is which is totally fine because it's

up to personal preference. And I just I think we're both like thank God that we are in a great, healthy place. And I think at this point too, it's like the relationship always comes first. I think that's really really important because we recognize like how many life changes we've made together in terms of like you know, buying this house together and having mortgage that we're splitting, and like having a dog. We were literally like talking about it on FaceTime. It is very adult of us. It's

very sexy, and it's so bad. Um. We were talking about him FaceTime last night. I was like showing him Peaches and I was like, I was like, ah um, what did I say? I was like, funny that we can never break up for Peach's sake. She deserves better, and he's like, You're absolutely right. It's it's all about Peaches. It's a child. And so I think it's like the way to do it is just to always know that,

like it's always the relationship first. And there are definitely times with posting online where sometimes they can feel like, oh gosh, are we like posting too much? Like sometimes we'll look at our feets and we're like, is there too much couple ee happening on here? Because we often will have feelings about some couples that share so much and we're like, oh my god, this is too much. This is out of control. They need to stopping so gushy.

And then we're like, wait, but let's I feel like for three years in yeah, you tell me, you guys post a solid amount, not too much. Not I think it's a fair amount. Okay, very sweet, thank you. But I also think like whatever you want, you know what I mean, Like you shouldn't not because if you don't want to, so true, Yeah, take a cute photo post it's your feet because at the end, at the end of the day, yeah, and he's he's like he's also

like my best friend. I spent every day with him, and so of course I just have more photos with him than like anyone else's your life partner. I'm like, I like cute in this photo, so like it's going to pop the think you broke up if you cropped it out to be like what is happening exactly? Um, but I think, I guess the other fun thing about being public is that like there's never any room for anyone to like pry too much in terms of like

anyone being like, so, what's going on? Because he wasn't in your last video, you know, like it's I don't know, there's something nice about being like we're we're mom and dad of the internet, and everything's great and here we are, and um, I like, at the end of the day, I just feel so grateful that he is so comfortable being in my YouTube videos like that that truly like I could never force upon someone or change someone in order to tow I guess like not fit that role,

but just like to be comfortable with it, and like he genuinely is all that. He's always like you should be blogging this. This is hilarious. Go get your camera. You know it's it feels it's so we love a supportive boyfriend who is down for it. I love that. We love that exactly and encourages. We love a boyfriend who supports an independent woman. That's what we all need.

It is really sweet to know that, Like I I'm never feeling like I am like dampening the moment or pestering by like asking to film something because I think at the day, end of the day, like he also recognizes how many like memories were documenting and that's really sweet. And like when when we're spending time apart, you know, he's like telling me about how he's watching our old like Coachella vlog and and just like reminiscing on the

days and so it's just really sweet. And then it's like, you know, fingers crossed, we get married and have kids eventually one day and like Manifest and Manifest Manifest, we get to show our kids like footage of us looking young and hot when you started day we could see the journey. I know, Like that's that's such a gift you're gonna be able to give that, Like that's awesome. My biggest beer is like having a child that is

like so uninterested in it. Like I'm gonna be like, if you want to see what your mom was like from thirteen to you know whatever age, it is all there and they're going to be like absolutely not. Why

would I At one point they'd have to be. I don't know how you wouldn't be interested in that, right, I mean, like, you guys are having a pretty awesome, incredible life, but I'm sure something that's so important is to stay grounded, which is something that I feel like we all need to do more and feel centered with. Do you meditate? Oh my gosh, I have been on a meditation kick as of lately. I literally meditated right before this. Actually, I'm meditate you this morning for the

first time. You're like reading my mind. Oh my god? Did you like it? Did you guided? Did you? What do you do? I did a five minute YouTube good morning thing. I kind of fell asleep to it though. Amazing. No, that is honestly, that's so wonderful to hear, because I feel like if you go in too hard and too long, like you will not find it. Not sustainable. No, it is not sustainable, and it is such a It's the same as working out, truly, it's like working out for

your mind. And like I feel that when I'm in a really good, uh whatever like rhythm with meditation, like it's easier for me to clear the mind because it's all about like just letting thoughts kind of like subside and allowing them to just come and go. But when you first start, you're like all I can think about is what I have to do once I finished this meditation, and I have to send this text message and I have to do this, and then oh my god, I

have to pick this up. So it's one of those things where like I have not found the answer to it. I have not found what works best just yet, because I'm constantly like trying different apps. It's a journey. It's a journey. Uh. The meditation I listened to just before this was by Louise hey Um. She was an author. She wrote the book You Can Heal Your Life, but you may have heard of. It's like a self helpy book.

It's a feel good, feel good type of book. But her voice is really she's like all about self affirmations, which honestly, they make me feel good. So like it's like what they're meant to do, so they're doing their job exactly, and so it's like a it's kind of a long one. It's like a twenty four minute meditation. That's impressive that you can do that, but it's guided. She's like talking the whole time, so you're just kind of laying there and like feeling good is She's like

sweetly speaking in your ears. Um this silent ones. I cannot. I can't do those yet, Claudia. I am so happy that you can have my podcast. This was so much fun. When I Love my Dad comes out, we got to do a part two and yes can come to Yes you can talk about all the movie we can talk about when it's out and more beautiful. This conversation meant so much, So thank you so much taking the time. Oh, it was so wonderful meeting you. This was so sweet.

I truly feel like there's there's clearly just like so much we can relate on and we just like met in the middle and we're like I see you, you see me? And do you know it's real when you can make a connection on zoom, I know that's rare. Seriously, Well, thank you so much for making my day literally this was so much fun, goodness and I will be back, aren't you coming soon? Ladies and Gen's amazing. Thank you guys so much for taking the time out of your

day to listen to this week's episode. Up the Let's Were a podcast. If you want subscribe follow, leave a comment. I always love to hear your feedback on episodes. Claudia, thank you so much for coming on. This conversation was so refreshing and I genuinely loved it. And if you want, follow me on Instagram at it Sammy J. That's I T S S A M M Y J A y E. And I will see you guys next week. It's another episode. I'll see you later.