Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. It's the smile that you do whilst you do it as well that's amazing. Oh I love silly, but I also I want to dig into some of your some of your shit please please. You're. Little vibrato, I really feel like you did start the hate for Benson because no one hated him until I saw your video. Correct. I want to fucking deck. Him it's really bad. I feel very sorry for the flipper. I I do, I feel a bit bad. Benson Boone. So basically like. Isn't he gay? I gay.
I don't know, I don't know, but he. Was just like an entitled straight man, but I think he's gay. Maybe, but he literally like so he came out with that song The Beautiful. Thing I think it's a really fucking annoying. Song, though, I'm going to say it was really good. No, I really, I really don't like it. So I felt like, you know, when you feel unified by someone's hatred for something, I feel more unified for things that I hate than things that I love. Perfect.
I love hating the same shit with someone on way more than I do loving the same shit. Me and like I feel quite bad because I don't think don't. You really, you actually don't. You know what it is? Someone. Commented and they were like no one hates Benson Boone more than you Moldogger, and I was like listen, oh, I listen. And I was like, I don't hate him. I think he seems like a funny cunt, but like he shall like moon. But like I will say moon bean ice cream, but it's in my head. I can't.
I see it and I saw your hatred video. I well, I just said it sounded. This is where I said it sounded like let's get physical. So I said it sounds like let's get physical, physical. Like it sounds like that. But then, yeah, everyone was like. You're gonna bust these fucking YEAH speakers right out. That is true. But the problem is, the problem is I'm coming at it being like, hee, hee, hee.
But then you get the crazy people who are like, I hope Benson Boone dies and it's like, all right, let's take it. Wait. So let's calm down, babes. Let's calm. Down. Yeah. I mean, look, I feel like everyone takes it too far, though. Like, I feel like we take it far, but in a funny way. Yeah. Like, I love it when a bit goes too far. Yes, but you just keep it going. Yeah. I'm the type of person who would carry on a bit for, like, a Goodyear me just to, like, fool
someone. I just feel so much joy in my heart if I knew that I was fooling someone. It's like the equivalent feeling to when you're like hiding in a closet knowing that your sister about to walk in the room to jump out them. Yes. What's that feeling? Yeah, exactly. Just like pure, like Dicky, like really, yeah. Like, wind myself up in like a really happy way. But we're always, I feel like people, like people lying us. We're doing it in a funny way. But then you have people who,
like, take it too far. Yeah. Like, I don't like that. Like. We don't like the hatred. No, that's not funny. No, but it's. But moon like someone, someone once said like what the fuck is a moonbeam? And like, yeah, like be. Fair, I think he fucking hates. It I don't think he like no, I don't think no. And apparently he he was saying that he wrote the album in 17 days. And I was like, I don't think that's something to. Yeah, and I think it's kind of obvious. I think it's kind of obvious.
Firstly though, I need to introduce you. What do you mean? That was my introduction. We talked about Benson Boone. Hey, OK. And it's actually, hey guys, it's me, Benson Boone. And that was it. And that was. The And that was it. And then the episode Moonbeam Ice Cream. It's really fucking annoying. I won't lie. It was on my June playlist. It was on my Pride playlist. Really. Yeah. You have a pride. Playlist. I mean, I'm. Gonna put that on tonight. It was just every month.
I do like a playlist. So I'll be like June 2025, July 2025, who do that? And it's not organized. No. Well, it's a really good way to like keep track of the months. But like, I put that on because Moonbeam ice cream reminded me of June. Yeah, and June Beam ice. Cream. That's good. That's. Sorry, yeah, but introduce me. I will. Hello lesbians. I'm sat with another lesbian. Yeah, Molly, but she also goes by Moldoga. Yeah. On Instagram and tick tock. Yeah. I have followed you for years.
So the very fact that I've got you right here and very excited, it's very funny. It's been years. It has you. Yeah. And I don't even know what the first thing was that I saw, but your tick tocks are hysterical. Like, hysterical. And I love just like I love the fact that you do do the bits you have like such a repertoire on TikTok that I don't really know where one thing ends and the other one begins. That's exactly my now looking inside of your brain a little
bit. Like it's very similar to me. Like I fucking love that. And you know, we call that diverse. Yeah, diverse. Yeah, diverse. Talented. Yeah. So you're like, so I'm going to tell you from what I've seen from you on the years online we've got. I don't explain the fucking law. I'm going to explain the law of what I've seen. Right. There are videos of you that are kind of like, acting out, like certain scenarios. Yes. I mean, like the friend who
dead. Yeah. So like the friend who can't be vulnerable, like that kind of thing. Yeah. Right. Yep. You've also got the songs that you've written. Yeah, that you. Boyfriend I didn't like. I've got some really good songs, guys. Go listen to them, they're really good. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're actually a fucking bop though. They are. They actually are good. And bop it is also.
Bop it, right? So I've got a song called Bop it. It is about a bop it and one of the first lines is bop it, twist it, pull my tits. Yeah. And I really like that. I resonated with that. Yeah, it was very, it was quite emotional to write that one, but yeah. That is something that I would say to a girl. That's not a joke. I would literally say bop it. Twist it, pull my tits, pull my tits, smack my ass. Don't be a bitch like that is poetry like fucking never.
Shakespeare could. Shakespeare is fucking. Wrong. He's. Great, Right now he's. Like literally twerking to us at Stoke Upon. Where's he fucking live? Stoke Upon fuck knows no, and I don't know he lives. Where's that? Stoke on Trent, Yeah, Where he is, She'll go find him. She'll go find him a song and see what. Happens, guys. We'll be right back. We're just gonna go find Shakespeare in. 200 years time people in school are gonna be reading this? Yeah.
What do you think? Yeah. What do you think she meant when she wrote Bobbitt Twisted? Pull my pets. But yeah, back to me. What else did I do? So you also do some of the most like unhinged, like the way that in which your brain works really intrigues me of how you come up with these ideas. Like. You there was the song and which one was it? I see trees of green, was it
that one? So one of my main law indicators is indicators, but basically I had a series on TikTok where I took the song of Louis Armstrong's What a Wonderful World. And then I sang the first minute, but I just sang the letter S, So I was like, so for example, I see trees of greens. So if I go, I see. So yeah. So can you do the S every time? Yes, I see cheese of green. So that was red. That's insane. So basically, did you even think I'm doing this? Bye, Bye.
It's my brain. And then I, yeah. So I just like, did that letter. And then someone famously commented they wrote you should do the whole alphabet. Yeah. And I was like, OK. And then I did amazing. And basically the whole thing was I added a letter each time and it got more fucked. Yeah. And more insane. Yeah. And. And just more cooks. Absolutely insane, but like also really fucking clever. Like thank you that's actually
really hard. It was well that is like you need difficult to do. Well, people, no thank you. And people thought I did it all in one day, but I didn't. Every time I did it, I had to like Reap because as I went on, I like. You did this like face. Yeah, I dressed like a kind of clown was fucked. But you like Beetlejuice? Yeah, I was giving Beetlejuice, but yeah, I like, I would as it got more cooked. I like, looked more like looked crazy. I love that. And it was.
But then, yeah. So then it ended and I did every single letter. Yeah. And then I did, I ended up doing a lot of like duets of like back story to the whole thing. And I made like a whole plot. And then I now I pretend like it never happened. Not fair enough. So if any, like if anyone's listening to this, it didn't happen. But I've sometimes people will comment, they'll be like, aren't you like the wonder wonderful world girl? And I always write like, I'm sorry, I don't know what that
means. Don't know what that means. And then what is a wonderful world? Yeah, like what is? And then all the comments underneath are like, yeah, you must be thinking of someone else. And that's. Really good. I love how your fans are like, very like to the bit too. They're the same. They're really funny. Yeah. And like, the same goes for the songs when you're like, oh, this is how singers online like introduce their songs, etcetera. And then it's also, by the way, so fucking spot on.
And that's why it's so funny. You're like, hey guys, this is a song for when you're feeling depressed. I'm sad and it's like the worst. I love it when you're like, when you're LA. What was it it was like when you're LA boyfriend? Becomes your LAX. I love that the airport and it's just so good. Awful but really good love. It yes. And so then like you've leaned into all of that, but again, like you just kept it going. Like you kept doing music videos
to the same song. People are like, is this a joke? And you're like, obviously, no, it's not a fucking joke. It's really a great song. Yeah, this is fantastic. Best thing I've ever done. I, I, I want more and then I'm trying to think of other things that you do as well, like you do like the siblings thing you did the I love the gender reveal video. Yeah, all that I'm your Mima and
I've. Yeah, we did a video at the start of this year where we like pretended to be like a Republican family in America from the South. And we all did like doing their like gender reveals where they're like, I'm your Mama bear and I think you're going to be beautiful big boy. And then like all. The it's like and I hope you're. Born. I hope you're born. If you're not, there's going to be trouble. And this is like that. And he's on you to be straight. Yeah, yeah.
I just fucking love it because what you what you do is that you encapsulate everyone and like everything very, very well. Like that's what I always get drawn into. And then you also had that one last thing that I wanted to mention, which was in and I saw it on a reel and people on reels don't have like people just don't have a fucking sense of humor, like a lot of stuff. But it was this one video where your friend is like, not like, don't rush me, Katie. And like, don't. Rush me.
Katie, you go, you go to kiss him in the car and then he fucking slams your so funny, hilarious, I think. I think people think that you 2 are together and they were like, yeah, I used to think this was funny too when I was with my boyfriend. Now he's in jail like. And look, I can understand the concern, but you guys need to know we're both so gay. And it was staged. And also I asked, so it was with my friend Harrison. I asked him four times. I was like, you need to fucking
shove me against the wall. Yeah. He was like, no, I was like, fucking shove me because we were recreating a scene from Monsters versus Aliens. It's really funny. Thank you. And I was like you to do the bit. You need to shove me. And like I I'm any, I believe in being hurt for the bit. I think that there's essentially there's no, there's no such thing as going too far for a bit exactly and you have to be committed to it exactly. That's absolutely fine. But yeah, all the comments are
like, what the fuck? Yeah. And they're like, babe, run. Yeah, babe, run. You should just the one you should just start doing like story times to me when I thought it was funny when he was doing but actually it was fucked. What? Fuck. Yeah, how's me? Like, what do you? He's literally so gay. He'll be like I didn't approve of.
This, yeah. And then also like, because you, I don't know if you've like, openly talked about being a lesbian too much like on TikTok. Yeah, I've like, I've done well at the start of last. No. Oh God. Because I don't even know how I know. I've done some videos on it like I've I've done, I did the song. So in 2023 I did a song called Do you have the Ick or are you just a lesbian? Yeah. And it was like a one minute song that I put on TikTok and it people like I loved it.
It was fun. And I've basically the whole thing was like people who say like, oh, like, I hate when he like walks to the beach. Yeah, that's an egg. It's like, that's not an ick if you like men like you're fucking gay like and it was just like how people come up with the dumbest fucking reasons for not liking. I've heard some of the most outrageous reasons. It's like, no, you just don't like. Yeah, You are a lesbian. Yeah. And I think like it was for me as well, because I think it's
very relatable. Like a lot of lesbians have like a full you'd meet the right person and right guy in inverted commas. But then it'd be like, oh, but he has. He did like this slide. Yeah, he, he has a green shirt. And I, I just can't do green shirts. And it's like, yeah. And it's like, all right, Queen. Like what was your like? What was your gay awakening like? What was your story with that? Wow, so like I, I feel like growing up like I have sort of like on TikTok as well.
I've done like a few videos on this where I'll talk about like it was hard to know. I think I've missed this. Yeah, it was quite so. I'm actually quite glad. I really agree. Yeah. But there was like, videos where I was like, talking about how male validation can be, like, confusing in knowing that you're like a lesbian. Do you know what I mean? Because it's like the feeling of like, wanting men to like, you
can feel like you like them. And then when they don't always reciprocate, it like, sparks that like, crazy thing in your head where you're not crazy, but like, that thing in your head where you're like, oh, I want them to like, want me. Do you know what I mean? So do you think that you confuse wanting them for wanting them to want you?
Like in I've been, I feel like I've kind of just to be transparent, like at the moment I'm sort of really facing my sexuality head on in the last like year more than I ever have before, which has been really good. Do you feel like you? What do you feel like you denied? I, I think what it had, what it's been is like growing up, I just be like transparent, like I didn't get heaps of like male validation at school.
And I always had this pattern where it was like I'd have a male friend who I was really close with, but they'd always boys go for my other friend. Yeah. And that was me, too. Yeah. And also they called any guy that was interested in me gay because I look like a boy. So I mean, it kind of checks out. Now you're like, and that's working for me now. I was like, fuck you.
But like back in school. And it's like that thing where I think this like knee jerk reaction sort of started to develop where it was like, right, like if I see a guy, like I have to get him to like me. Yeah, of course. And like that that happened where like I'd have like really close male friends and they'd then be interested in my like close. Female and then because that hurt you, yes, you would then like, well, I couldn't be gay there. Yes, exactly.
Really funny that you put it like this because I've never really heard someone talk about like this. And I resonate with that a lot actually. Like I really wanted them to just want to be with you, yes. Yeah, but it was like the them wanting to be with you part was so strong that it wasn't actually obvious that you didn't like because. And I remember like there was a guy in high school who was my really good friend.
And I've again, I've been like, I've had to like, really, really think about this and like unpack it because I was like, oh, like, I remember we had a time where we were walking up to like the bus stop after school and I was like alone with him. And I remember being like, I have a crush on you, but I'm really uncomfortable, you know what I mean? And I was like. Did you say that?
No, like I didn't say it to him, but I was like, like I didn't, but I was like, I like this man, but I'm I don't like I feel. Weird, but I don't feel comfortable with him. Yeah, and I didn't realise that at the time. I'm a stuck like the anxiety and like the for like feelings of like lust. Yeah, yeah, lust, lust is that. Are you thinking of the Shrek 2 quote? Please say yeah, you know, you know, And she's like. Honestly, no Shrek two, I've missed the boat.
No. You know when you know when the fairy godmother is like pouring the thing and she's like in just a bit of lust? Yes, thank you. Because he said it like that and I was like, surely you'll be. That's just my fucking. Voice man Jennifer Snow. But yeah, like, and I feel like what started to happen. So yeah, like that happened so much up until like 20, like 20.
And then in the last couple of years, there's been times where like I will, what started to change is I've had, I had an experience where I was like at a party and I was like interested. I was like flirting like again, like I, I'm not proud of this, but I was like an out lesbian. But I still had that like knee jerk thing of like impressed men, impressed men. And I again like compared. Yeah, we want to talk about.
Yeah, it's so fun and like, but here's the thing, every time I would flirt, they like, wouldn't be interested, right? So I was like, oh, well, I could be straight, but then this guy was interested in me. So at the party he was like
actually reciprocating. And then I, I literally, I was very drunk, but I like burst into tears because it was the first time I was like, Oh my God, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Was it more so that you were crying because you had that realization of Actually, no, that's this is the case. A. 100 because you know what it is. I think sometimes for me, because the guys aren't like 1 always reciprocating, it was like that little voice in my brain was like, well maybe I'm not a lesbian.
Like maybe I'm maybe I'm like because. You weren't confronted with it. Yeah, exactly, because it's like literally being straight is literally shoved down your throat so much. Like everyone knows that. And then like, but yeah, like you don't realise how like on like a micro level, how much it. Feels safer to be bisexual within that round, right, because you're like, well, I've still got my toe in the pond, yes and of this normality, yes. And so I'm kind of half. OK, Yeah.
And like 100%, that's how I always viewed bisexuality for me. Like when I was younger, I was bisexual like, me too. That's how I identified as. Yep. Knowing. Really. That was, that was. My but then I also just kind of thought, well, I could just say that I'm bisexual, which kind of like keeps me in that round, but then just never day man. And then I was like, no, this just isn't me. That's just not me. So then that realization happened, and that was in 2020.
Did you say or look it's? Is it very recent? It's it's like literally I had like so yeah, at the at that party, this guy like turned around and was like, Yep. And I was like, because again, I was like, oh fuck. Like again, like it was like, Oh my God, like it was only for me. I've learnt like so much of this shit happens in your fucking head where you like can romanticize men. You're like, I do like men. No, no, like I do like I do. But then it was only when he was there.
I was like, not an idea like a 3D fleshed out person that I was like, Oh no. And I. Like this joke has gone away too. Far, but the bits over now like not and that, yeah. I meant. Yeah, yeah. I don't like men, but yeah. And it was like that. But then like I have noticed like I think that like like muscle of when I was younger of like wanting men to like. 100 percent 100. Percent it's still like this is what I'm saying like I've been unpacking it literally since
like last year. I had another thing where there was like a guy and I was like, oh, maybe I do I do and then like the same thing happened where that where did that like sorry, that party experience hadn't happened for a while. So I was like enough time had passed. I was like maybe and then same thing happened. I was like, I my body just like. It's the body that like, just will tell you, right? Because your brain will tell you stories and your body won't. So your body will always be true
to you. And your brain is filled with information. It's not your own. Yep, Your brain is filled with information from other people, from other sources, from films, like songs, whatever the fuck, right? Yep, and compulsive heterosexuality is. My biggest fucking OP, Sorry. It is, yeah. It's biggest fucking OP for me too, yeah. Especially growing up, like you are more one and two as well, like you're very straight
passing. And so it is that whole thing of just like, do I fit within this mold? Is that me? And then also maybe I think as well, when you have ADHD, you're so used to gaslighting yourself. Fucking get on to this if you Oh my, you're. So used to gaslighting yourself. You're so used to not trusting yourself. Then you think, well, what if I've just taken it too far with this whole lesbian? Yeah, that's what if I. Well, the thing was as well. Here's the really interesting thing about it.
Growing up with I've heard a few people have different experiences with this. I've literally gone on like, the depths of every corner of the Internet to like, hear people talk about like, hey, Reddit, but yeah, like. For me, growing up, I never felt like a lot of, you know, some women who are like identify as gay are like, oh, I'm scared of other women and stuff like I don't have I've. Never had that I've never had I've.
Never that yeah, that I've I when people say that I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's so weird to me because I've found for me growing up like again the close it was class like but like even in general what made it always so confusing is because I always felt so scared and anxious around the boys like but I felt really safe around the girlies so then I didn't feel like. Send you thought, oh, I might just nervous around them because they fancy. Yeah, exactly.
Again, like growing up, I never felt like when I was around the girls, there was this thing where I was like, yeah, I get like nervous and stuff on dates and stuff, but I don't feel this hankering need to impress them and like, no, because I just, I just don't, I feel like a fully 3D functional. You know, you are. You're just a fucking player, babe. Yeah, I'm a. Whore. Yeah, but like. I'm a slut slut. I'm a fucking.
Slut but but I just like doing. That while you're only here for like a couple of days, I'm like, I'm beat and delete, babe, beat and delete. I have been to the Tower Bridge with my cousin. I'm a whore. No, but yeah, no, I've done the town hall. Yeah, that's. Now you're coming to the lesbian. This is true I'm. Very never know. You never know. And I bought my deck of cards. Yeah, who would like me to do a magic trick? Honestly that would work on me
though, but I'm not even. That would work. You know, I'm honestly, I'm actually just excited to play games, but literal games I'm like, who wants to get play game? No, no, not not mind. Games, board games play. Snap. That's like all I. Fucking love. Yeah, fucking love. Snap. I'm not even here to flirt. I'm here to be silly. Yeah, silly. Yeah. This episode is sponsored by Better Help, so let's talk about
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with men? 100% and like this is the thing I've realized I will get fucking hell, fuck my fucking life. I've heard I've like again, I've stalked TikTok users who like mentioned this and I've only seen people talk about this a little bit. So I'm going to bring it up. Go on. Limerance. Oh, limerance with men as a lesbian. Oh, interesting. I know this again. For so long I was like, this doesn't make sense. You can't have limerance with men as a lesbian.
That means you like men. No, Because here's the thing. Limerance isn't actually about liking. Someone. No. It's an obsession. That's the reason why it's called limerance and not love or not liking. So here's the thing, right with men, here's how it will manifest with me. OK, I'll be obsessed with them. I'll have really intrusive thoughts about them. I'll care if they like like all my stories, my Instagrams, my posts, like my videos, whatever. Like it'll all be.
About like it's like an OCD, yeah, but it is like a compulsory. Yeah, and it's like, and it's all about like kind of I'll have thoughts about them. I'll like base my worth around them and everything. I'll think about them a lot. But then but then it's like the whole idea of limerance is it's like not a real person.
It's the idea of them, right. And then what happens is the more fleshed out 3D and like real in inverted commas they become, the less I don't give a fuck, you know what I mean? But it's like, this is my little loophole sometimes. This is where I go fucking crazy. When I barely know them, That's when I go insane because my brain, my fucking. Really need to know them. Yeah, like you need to. Yeah, I'm like, right, let's hang out and then I'll get the egg.
So I kind of have like this might be a hot take, No, but like based on what you just said there, I think that you have. So it definitely sounds to me that you've got like subconscious entire homophobia, right? So, so subconsciously your brain is trying. So yeah. It's the Westboro Baptist Church in here and I'm like, cool. Let's work on that. And so I'm kind of more interested as to maybe why like did you have like did you have a hard coming out? I, I had, I grew up in Australia.
So I feel like here's the thing, like I grew up in, I was born in 1998 and when I was in school from I was in high school from 2011 to 2016. And I towards the end of my high school experience, things got better. But again, like I remember like in year 7, everyone was like, that's gay. Like everyone would use that as like a slur, like people would use lesbian as an insult. Like, and you just don't even realise how much that what. And this is what? Builds a shame within you.
It does and it makes you. I think people don't realise that, like, this is what I've been really like working on is the internalized homophobia can make you try to be straight. And that's like, oh, babe, yeah, yeah. And it's, and you feel, I feel like especially now that there's like. I was worse than you, OK? Does it make you feel any better?
Like I would get to the 3D version of the man and feel that feeling that you felt, but still go ahead and punish myself for it anyway, just for the fucking fun of it. Like, and it was fucked. And that's the trauma that I have to live with because they genuinely like, I traumatized myself. Yeah. It's not even on them. Like, I can't even for once can't even blame the fucking man. Like, I very much behaved like I wanted it.
Yeah. And I, you know, it was very consensual, but like internally it fucking wasn't right dying inside. So like I slept with so many men like when I was younger and like, I wish that I listened to my body in the way that you did that. So you might say that you're like factualism and stuff like you still actually had more control than maybe you realized. So like, so when you were at school, there was a lot of like slurs that were like chopped around.
And then when did you, did you always know that you were like slightly? So, OK, so like here's how it happened. Like again, I think I've realized, like I don't think I can overestimate how much chasing those guys and having them, not if one fucking dude, if one fucking guy had come up to me in school and been like, hey, Molly, I've got a crush. You would have gone, Oh, I'm gay. I would have been like oh yuck, but like that again, like the muscle just kept developing of
like OK, two men. I am not worthy like I am not enough and that. That made you want it more. It overshadowed every ability to like, tune into my body and be like, oh, what do I actually want? And then it also feeds into the horrendous lesbian trope of you just can't get a man. That's what. Yeah, that shit is fucking ridiculous. So dumb so. But also it's way harder to get a girl than it is. Yeah, everyone. Yeah. No, literally.
But yeah. Like, so growing up where I remember when I was in like primary school or like 12, it's so weird things have come so far in such a short amount of time. Yeah, but like, and. But when I was in high school there was no like I know with TikTok as well. Like I think a lot of people found out they were gay on fucking. On that, they fucking did. And like, it really helped me. I'm not going to lie.
I really TikTok helped me a lot. Like, yeah, but yeah, like when I was in school, I didn't actively seek out anything because like, I didn't really know. It was only like 1 of my experience. I've been unpacking. Oh, you'll fucking hate this. Ready. So, yeah, so I had experiences of like wanting the guys to like me and like there were those like, oh, when I was in year 9, those fucking hot lists of like the hottest pit. Do you do? So there was what ready do? You have this Perry.
I'm looking at Perry. Is this like an Australian? Do you remember? Ask FM. Oh, I remember. Oh fucking. Ask FM Should we do an ask FM right now? Let's do like and on. Let's fucking name you're A. Fucking you're a fucking bitch. But yeah, like Ask FM, there was a list right Ready. So they had a thing When I was in year 9, there was a like, who are the hottest girls in the
year? Yeah. And again, just things like that make you you, you don't realize how much it. Like, Oh my God, I would have not been on that. And I wasn't. And I was like, and it was always like, oh, like you're funny. But I was like, I want you to think I'm the hottest bitch ever. What do you mean funny? Like be call me hot. But yeah, again, like it just we're taught so young that like if the guys want you. By the way, funny, you're worthy. Yeah, I know, I know.
Now I'm like, Oh my God, shut up and all the guys. When you're a kid. When you're a kid. But then there you go and oh, oh, everyone, sorry, but everyone from my high school now, all the boys are so fugly. But like, yeah, growing up I had that. And like, again, it got better, but people were still homophobic, you know what I mean? There was still. It's still there. Yeah, it was. Still there and like 2016, that's just when Netflix came out.
Just around then, like streaming services, more inclusive shows were starting to come out, but. And TikTok help because the algorithm was larger. Yes but that was but again I got TikTok in 2019. I was what I was like 2021 ish like it was like it was not in my like really vulnerable state as like a fucking child. Should have really done with that. Yeah, that's why I always say that representation is so fucking. Important. So important.
Is why we do this, which is why we do like everything that we do because it's just like you can't always just rely on that algorithm to feed you as well the right shit exactly you want to see. So then when did you come out like what? How old were? You, well, it's really interesting. I remember the body. You can do whatever you want, but the the body will hunt you down and tell you, you know what I mean? Like. That you're a dying. And yeah, yeah.
And I remember, like, the same thing you said, like where it was like your body was like, what's going on? It was really interesting. I had this thing where I would like, really publicly be like, I like this boy. I like this guy. I will like, I like this boy. And like, if you have a question of boy, I don't think you're telling everyone, babe, like this. You may have sounded a bit emotionally stunted because of Yeah, because it really wasn't real.
Yeah, well, I didn't know it wasn't real, but because like, I didn't get the chance to, as you said before, you were like, it didn't play out or something like that. Was it like it never because it never played out. I was like, well, I don't know, like. An experience with a girl though, that made you be like oh. So when I was in like Europe, I went on like a school trip and I remember school trip we love. I was very, I would say I was very repressed in school.
I didn't realize I didn't even know it was going on type thing. But I remember I met like she was on the school trip. Oh, this, this is this is my fucking origins to like villain origin story. And I remember as I was going to sleep, I said to this other girl who was my friend. I was like, I think I like the girl. And then at school in front I didn't I hadn't told anyone. I didn't. It was very because again, all the boy crushes like I like them.
But this girl I remember being like don't fucking like no one fucking like no, And I remember being like, oh, I think I like like her. Then I remember being like, what the what the fuck like that? That's new. And then in front of a whole group at school, she was like, oh, Molly, remember when we were going to sleep and you said you liked blank? Yeah, I have that fucking that fucking bitch. Yeah, honestly, yeah. And she's freak anyway lol. Oh my God, that's so.
Bad. It's so and I remember bit, but again, as you said, like you know how you just spoke about my upbringing and stuff. I think my body. I remember in that moment, you know, I'd be very public about being like, I like boys. But then my stomach dropped when she announced that because it was like of. Course, it probably felt like your whole body was on fire. Exactly. Really. That's a lot. And also to just be like outed like that and something that you were so vulnerable.
Yeah, that. I fucking hate. What the fuck in the world fucking. Hell, like that kid, I'm sure she wouldn't do that now, but fuck you. Yeah, fuck you. Beep, I won't say her name, but but yeah, but yeah, but just like as you said, my body, I think the fact that it felt such shame like that shows like how my upbringing resulted in that.
And like one thing I've been so embarrassed about is I not embarrassed, but I am now I I am a lesbian, but having all these annoying, I call them like compact crushes is like, you feel like, oh, I'm not a lesbian. Then you. Feel like you're frustrating yourself a little. Oh, it's. It's literally like fucking so annoying in my head. And then like, you meet these men or you see them a year later or something, you're like, Oh my fucking like, what the fuck was
like, like, who cares? Like it's just like it's just your subconscious brain just trying so hard to get this out of your system in a way like, and that is really heavy to have to deal with whilst you're also aware of the fact that you are a lesbian. Do you know what I mean? But I think that like the more I would say that the more that you like embrace being a lesbian and being like so fucking proud of
that. And also surrounding yourself with lesbians is like a big thing that do you have many like lesbian friends and I. Was going to say like in this last year, like I've started like going to like, like events and like going out to like more like queer bars. And that's again, like I literally went to like a queer bar and I was like, oh, I feel 1000 times better. Like things like that, you know what I mean?
But like, it's really interesting and I I'm if this stuff kind of resonates with people. Like I'm sure it does. I will, I will say something that I've found really helpful for me. So can I do like a little story because I think I think this might help. So I was at like a games night and there was like a new guy there and he was very conventionally attractive and stuff.
And like usually what I will notice when I'm around someone like that is all kind of not like always flirt, but kind of try to like impress them a little bit. So what I've been really working on now is having like quite a neutral stance around men's not being like, I fucking hate them and and ignoring them because so because I find if I then go the other way, it does, it's still it's still. Feeding into the attention. We want to, we want to just make them little, little background NPCS.
So like what I'll do now is I'll relax my body language, relax my face and like I'll kind of do the opposite of what my body. Like the quick reaction it wants to do is like flirt and like
look good and like perform. And I try and like just drop my shoulders back, breathe through it and just like talk really slowly and look them in the eye and just notice the urge to be flirty and not act on it. And I will say like that guy came to this games night and rather than it turning into a thing where I meet him once and then obsess over him for a year, the idea of him and then like go crazy, I just like did that and I was like, that's good. Like you know what I mean?
And I. Think, I think it's, I think as well because you what I think that maybe you internalize it as when you're flirting, yeah. You are giving them permission and control. Yeah. So then when they don't reciprocate, that need for that control back becomes way more important to you. So therefore, you're going to spend all that time obsessing as to how you can get that power back because you gave it up so freely and that shamed you because you didn't even want
them in the first place. Right. And then you're like, I've almost made a fallout of myself. I've been above and beyond trying to impress him. And he's at what? He's not even. Oh, so he's liked that now. So that's a little bit of validity, and I'm trying to claw back from the 100% validation that I gave away. I can understand that. Yeah, I can really understand. That and that's not like you seem like someone who's so you know, like, yeah, I'm in break.
So it's not, but it's nice to hear it, isn't it? Because it reminds you that like, you can still be an like I am an out lesbian God. I'm a fucking loser like me. I'm a loser. I'm a loser. I'm a loser. I'm a loser. Loser. Yeah, and literally sorry. I'm like, I'm a sucker. Like sucker, it's like a club, literally. I'm such a sucker and I am a very out lesbian. Obviously I've got a fucking everything is gay, but I also for so many years had that like
compulsion. And even to this day I find that my body language is probably naturally flirty. I do tend to say more neutral with men. Like I am not one of those lesbians. It's like don't fucking speak to me. And that's what I mean, because it's like, I also don't care about you enough to even do. That which I think is, you know, that's great. And then and then. That's great. That's great.
If I'm find someone, like genuinely interesting, then it's like, yeah, I want to have that conversation. But in the back of my mind, all the time I'm thinking, is he thinking that I'm being flirty? Yeah. Is he thinking that I'm being flirty? And I will think about it that way. And then it is that thing where it's almost like there is that desire to just want everyone to want you. Yeah. Right.
But you know what's interesting? I think this is what's made it all a bit odd is that that like this is just Oh my God, no, I love it, but it's literally patriarchy, right? It's like it is with we are taught that like men and what men want should be the most upheld thing ever 2% and like like women. I know for some women that is great if they're like, I care so much, like, like, but I obviously care but like as in like, I'm trying to unlearn that, but. It's putting men on a pedestal,
yes, right. They've always been up there. But I also think that it is a very different experience you growing up in Australia. That is also why there's a lot of Australian lesbians living in the UK. Perry over there. You're just one of them, hey? Perry. Or also like yeah.
I'm also good at. That getting that you are getting like understanding their sexuality when they move over here yeah, that's yeah a few times as well because the compat is a next level over there like I do know that it's way worse and. It's fucking, it's all like the rugby boys. I like the girl and like it's such like a like it's like there's like, as you said, like
I grew up in a very. Well, it's just the fact that like, the men can walk around in a fucking dodgy moustache and a mullet and all the girls are like. Oh yeah, yeah. Like, wow, yeah. What are we looking? Are we looking at the same answer the? Standard of men is so fucking. Yeah, no, it's. Grim and but but even there put up on a pedestal. Yeah, exactly.
So imagine like, no wonder why you feel like you're like, you know, but I feel like within like fixing that insecurity will also allow you to feel that same level of respect. Yes, not respect, but like what's the word that I'm looking for that that same level of who want to say pedestal not even like hierarchy. Is an equal, isn't it? Equal like do you feel like you will put women higher once your own insecurities about being a woman? Yes. Is higher.
It's literally like, it's so interesting, like, and I think what I've learnt, I think a lot of people I'm I for me, I was like, oh, I'm a lesbian. I should just like be able to like focus on women. And it's actually for a lot of these things, it's actually been a very like mechanical thing that I've had to do to like unlearn this stuff. So for example, like I will watch like a lot of women only media now. Like, I'll listen to songs by women. I'll read books.
I feel like, I feel like you're going to like. Yeah, I know. I'm like. What is it? It's like the opposite of a conversion. Yeah, no, literally I'm. Like I'm just like, here, go and watch the album. No, you fall asleep to this hypnosis. Yeah, yeah. I like women. Like like literally. And I think for some people it might be like, well, do you even like women then? Because you have to do. It's like, yes, like this is what for some people, this is doing it.
Can you? Care. Yeah, care do. You know what it actually feels like, and I'm so sorry to cult survivors if this sounds insensitive. It feels like coming out of a cult. It literally feels as dramatic, real. It feels as like intense as it
feels like can't. Pet is, is like a cult is a fucking and the amount of women, yes that make their lives miserable because they and never get out of it because the cult is there to convince you that even if you are starting to think about like a woman, that that's actually just it's not the same and it's not going to be as good and you're as good as
the guy. So even if you're a bisexual, right, it's like, no, no, no, that's not going to happen because the guy you, you're so much better off doing Yeah, yeah, right. So why would you why would you leave the cult? Yes, Why would you leave that and be happy? Yeah, if you could actually kind of suck it up and grin and bear it with a man and make sure you have the kids. Like, look, look at all your friends are having children, all getting married.
And I want to go and run around with a spiky little dike around the corner. Like, you know what I mean? That that's the that's the way that they view it, whereas the way that I view it as. Fuck them kids. Fuck. You, well, you don't. It's like it's one of those things. That you could live a life with a beautiful woman and have a very fulfilling, yes life. But it is. But it is really interesting that like, this is your experience. Because I also feel for people
like us who are very outgoing. Yes. And we have a lot of opinions. And yes, you obviously see the world in so many different ways, which is how you're able to do what you do. That they don't almost think that that struggle comes with it. Yeah. You know, And all of us have got like a fucking struggle somewhere. I'm fucking riddled with them, so don't worry about that. It's literally that it's like guys like fucking out like fucking fucking out. This compare is it's it's my
biggest upload. No, but like I think for people to hear that you've experienced it as well will be really helpful and like I trust me, like I. Get out the cult. Yeah. And do you know what, on your point, I think a lot of people as well. For me, what I've realized, just to be transparent, my therapist was like, she was like what? What is like one of the benefits and like, how can like being a lesbian be good and like pussy? Yeah. But I couldn't, I couldn't answer it.
And I was like, wow, this goes deep and it goes deep. And what? So what I've, I think don't this is what I'm literally in the process of telling myself is it's if you don't know what it's going to look like, it makes sense that you want to go back in the closet. Do you know what I mean? A little bit. Oh my God. So it's the fear of the unknown. Yeah, it's literally not. It's like, it's so now all I'm I'm literally I'm leaving that cult of like.
The fear of the unknown is the worst, Yeah, because it is the fear, and the fear will only ever build up negative scenarios. Yeah, ahead. Right. So it's a bit like if you have a fear of flying before you get on that flight, the whole time you're thinking, well, it's going to fucking crash. Or if you've never been on the plane and all you've like, it's like. All you've ever seen is plane crashes. Yeah, you'll be like it's lit.
That's literally it's like, and if everyone every homophobic thing around you has been like, oh, this, this, this, this and this, of course you're not going to be like right time to be a lesbian. Like you're going to be like, holy, Oh no, I'm doing something in inverted commas. But. The thing is, I mean, I can say it from like being on the other side that it is the most freeing, amazing fucking warming feeling ever. And I've never felt prouder and but that took me so long to get
there. But it doesn't mean that just because it takes it might have taken me longer than like somebody else. Some people really quick, some people are longer, some people take longer in life because they've also been like. Boyfriend. Boyfriend. Boyfriend. Yeah, Yes. Compact. Compact. Yeah. Compact. Yeah. Something's really wrong, but I don't know. Yeah, do it again. Compact. I don't. Know he's perfect, Fuck him. You're on such a buzz. Yeah, but yeah.
Thing so like for me, I'm just like I know that it shouldn't be a while, but I know it's taking other people longer and I know it's taking other people like a different amount of time yes but like my thing that if I could go back to me when I was younger, I would shake my. Fucking shoulders. Don't look at these fugly. Men, don't look at any of these fugly men and stop putting yourself through it. No, you're not gaslighting yourself. Yes, you are gay. Yes.
And actually it's fucking great. And gay doesn't look like that nightmare that you have in your head, right? And. It's. Great and it's great and it's so much fun and you feel so alive and you genuinely will now get to feel love. But the good thing is like in working through all this, what I can really say now and I've I've not it's not been like only since this year I've had glimpses like I've. Had glimpses but I think it's more now you feel ready to face.
It and yeah and I. Think it's identifying it as the issue. Yes, it's good that you did. I'm really like unpacking it and like what I feel like, no, you are. But it's like, but it's literally that. And it's like now I'm starting to sit like, even when I said like, I went to that queer club and I was like, oh, oh, so this is what it's like for your body to feel like horny. Yeah, we love feeling horny, you know? What I mean it's like I love it.
Yeah, it's like so like that feeling of dread in a straight club like that you that I thought I was like, no, this is woo. I'm flirt. It's like, no, it's. Also just like not fun because you don't have that drive in you to kind of almost just be around your like your people, yes, in a way, right. So you feel a bit like out of place. You just don't know. Why, Yeah, you're like, what's going on? And you're like, oh, this is a
weird feeling. But yeah, like when I was in that club, like the quit club, I was like, hell yeah. And it's like, it's nice, isn't it? And like your body and it's so weird. It's like it kind of, I think they've said this, I think it's on. I was watching like love Simon. I love that film. And like they were who's who isn't suddenly 30 The actress. I do. Oh, my goodness. What? This is no 3013 going on 30. Oh, Jennifer Garner, Jennifer
Garner love her. She's there's a bit where she says to Nick Robinson, the main guy, Simon, She's like, you can like breathe now. And I was like, oh, and it's and it's really cute and it's just like, it's true. Like, yeah, it feels like you've been like holding your breath, holding it in. And it's just like. And then you can actually just go, Oh yeah, you know, it's easy. And it's a huge thing, like to be able to do that, to like combat it, combat the compat.
Honestly, we need that on a T-shirt, but I can't. No like I literally want to get a shirt that's like compat is my biggest fucking OP. It is your fucking OP Like for real. But we, we working on it. We are working on it, but it's getting, it really is getting better. I'm like, yeah. The people with just the struggles are just the best comedians. Like, what is it that you want to do now, though? Like, going forward? So you've got your online creator.
Yeah, you're doing all different types of stuff that because like, I think, I mean, I can assume you've been some good drama school girl. Like I feel like You Can Dance, sing, act. Yeah. So I have a podcast, I do TikTok. I do like acting stuff as well. Love that, love musical theatre, love making stuff, love writing stuff. I'm very much wherever it takes me. I love doing lots of different things and I love having like, yeah, but I love doing comedy stuff.
So I feel like it all feeds into each other, right? Like I was like doing a piano lesson. Oh my God, I do like beginner piano lessons at the school. And we were learning Welcome to the Black Parade. And then I did like a group end of term concert with a bunch of eight-year olds. And it was. Just I fucking love that I fucking. It was just me and these children and they were better than me and I was like, this is this is fucked. And it was like when I was a young boy and it was just, but
yes. But again, like all these things feed into each other and like help each other. I'm Australian. I'm in London at the moment. Like just being in different places just helps, I can't believe. You're only here for two days. I know I am. I look, to be honest, being back here, I'm like, all right, I love it. I'll go back. I'll go back to London in it. But yeah, that's why, because I was born here, guys. I was born in London. Born here.
Can you not tell by that accent? I was fucking born in London in it, but now I'm in Australia I can't. So yeah, I've got like a bit of those bit of both accents. I love you so much. You know, you've got the, you've got the passports. Yeah, yeah, I have a British passport appreciation. Yeah, I actually am. I Willy. Willy. I'm from Britain, but yeah. I love you. Yeah. I actually love you.
And before you go as well, I was like thinking of this new segment, which is called lesbian or lesbian out. Right. So it's like. The insurance and outs of like lesbian stereotypes. Interesting. And then you're going to tell me your like hot take on that, like whether you think it's in or whether you think it's out. OK OK so my first one would be saying I love you within the 1st 2:00. Months out. Shut the grow up, grow up. No, you don't. You don't know.
Him no freak Limerick weird. Don't be a freak, don't be a fucking freak. Shut up. Like no you don't I you. It takes like 5 years to learn how much you fucking hate people. Like all right, none of that shit. Yeah, no, five years and then you say something OK, like a normal. Person that is, if anyone said I love you to me, no. I kind of love you. It's kind of bad. It's been like 2 hours. I love. You. I love it. No, but like, genuinely. Yeah, 2 within two months. That's far too soon.
So embarrassing. What would be your like your your time frame of saying I love you though? I mean, like four to five months, I thought that's OK. Like 4 to 6 months, Four to six months, OK. But the two months, no. And the two months, no, you don't know. You don't know someone in that time. You don't know someone. And I think just because. You've been there. That asshole does not mean that you know that. That is poetry. That's beautiful.
That's what I'm feeding to all these U-Haul lesbians. I'm like just. You don't know, but I can understand how people do. It's intoxication. Yeah. It's like you finally come out. You finally meet someone. You finally feel like you're in the right place. But it's lost. But yeah, it's lost. You don't know them. It's it's just they could be anyone. You don't know. You don't know them. Next. Next. Lesbian in, lesbian out dry humping. In I think that's I. Think so too.
I think that's silly. I love how you're getting all of these right. Yeah, yeah. No, I think that's yeah, it's giving like, yeah. Hump is fun. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah. It's like, oh, and it's like everyone's like, yeah, I think that 100. Percent lesbian in lesbian out dating within a friendship group. God, if you've really thought it out, like if everyone's on board, if you've thought it out, you've thought of the consequences. If it's if you really do feel like it's someone who.
Is worth. It is worth it and it's not going to ruin everything. And everyone in the group is like, you know what? This feels right. If we, if you guys were suddenly a couple, yeah. But if it's just like, we met yesterday, now we're in love. I'd be like, shut the fuck. Like no. Like no. Someone's getting kicked out the fucking group. If everyone's just horny and like doing no, but if it if you honestly feel like if if you guys were, you know, like in fucking friends when Monica and
Chandler. 100 and it was just. Suddenly like, yeah, all right, cool. Like if it's like that and it honestly feels like it. Would want to happen. Yeah. Then I think it's honestly OK. But if it's just like, I think also like, it's a bit tricky, isn't it, when you're friends with people? I think it's like transparency. Yeah. It's like a big thing, right. So it's just that you don't want to be like, yeah, yeah. Because then there's like X is in the fucking room. Exactly.
Lesbian. You know, it's going to be careful in this town and then in or out. That was good strap. Good one. Straight. I thought we said straight. I thought we've been like straight, straight, right? In, so in, so in. If you say out, come on. Get a fucking get a grip literally get a grip. You can go and join that other can in and out in and out. Yeah, no, very keen with the whole life if you.
Don't know it's so in. Yeah, it's so in and I'm so fucking sick of people saying if you like this trap then you're straight. Fuck, what does that even mean? Who says that? And it's who says that? Do people say that? OK, it's not fucking hate that. It's always connected in my darling. Straight to call a girl handsome, and I don't think so. I think a girl can be handsome. What are Why are people so stupid and ugly? Oh, you must be straight then it's like, oh, it looks like a Dick.
Yes, because that is the. That is the shape of the. Who's it connected to? Who's it connected to? Yeah. And it's just like, it's. That's dumb. I've got tits swinging in my face. Yeah, someone is strapping me. That's not that's not straight. Yeah, yeah. The name, name the straighteners in there. No, that's name. That's so dumb. It's so dumb. Where the fuck?
If anyone or if anyone says anything bad about that, they can come to me. Should we ask all the lesbians the one night tonight and just like, fucking stuff? Yeah, yeah, that's not a fight. OK, thoughts on this? Let's get the police involved. OK, story time to when we had a strap fight at the event and the police got involved. There's no such thing as bad PR. Yeah, exactly. I you know that girl and she's like get ready with me for SIDS. Really. Greece.
You know the chick and she's got the the makeup girl. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. With that Kim Kaddis great thing. Yeah. I think we I know I do because she because I just went to Greece and she has this video where she's like get ready with me for said to really grease and I've been saying it, but I fucking need to do that. Yeah, I've had that just really quickly guys. All right, while I've been here, these would be my 3 vocals.
Go on. OK, so I've had get ready with me for said to really grease and nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. And the last one is, it's really old, but it's this video of this lady and she's like. Who the hell doesn't love macaroni? And it's from like 3 years ago but it's like lady on TikTok and she was like 60. So now this is your your 3. Those are the three top three of your holiday. That's like the three recurring thoughts I've had on a loop for like I. Love. This it's.
It's just that's how it happens. I love this. Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. I'm fucking you do. It so. Well, fucking hell. You've got so much of like a vocal depth. When you do it, it's always nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday. Joe, I'm going to it's like a show reel and descended up to some advertising companies you had to do. Your voice over here. Is my voice real? It's that one. Yeah. It's. Really good. Could you do like a Tesco's checkout?
Like what do they usually say? Item in bagging area, Yeah. Is it like that? Yeah, it's like that unexpected item in bagging that. Was unexpected item in bagging area. And then in Primark they go till #3 please. That was till #3 that was shit. I really been. To. That's pretty good. Please, I'm going to Benson Boone. Yeah, you are going to Benson Boone. Then you should do the flip as well. I actually should, yeah, actually should I? I should I should I do some flip? Molly, yeah.
I love the fact that I've only just tried to get to know you within, like the space of an hour. Yeah, but I really. Feel like, yeah, it was like, no, that was really good. Yeah. You know more than a lot of people babes like. Well, where can people find you? Tell the lesbians where they can go. What to click on? OK you can find me on TikTok at Benson Boone at Moldogger MOLDOGA, on Instagram at M fuck at MOLDOGAI don't know my.
Name on Spotify. I'm sorry what the fuck I'm on Spotify. I also have a new song coming out very soon. It's about milfs lol. I can't wait for this. I've already heard the snippet and I'm just fucking gas. He I showed Freya a little snippet and it's I love it. It's funny, but yeah, I need. To be the MILF somehow when you do you need to try and create. Well, what? You will be the MILF of the
song. 100 I know that I'm only a few years older than you, but like, people know your mother, so it's it works, but I also want to hold like a baby and just like The Hobbit across the room. Yeah, just throw a baby, yeah. It's like, it's like you come along. Yeah. And you're like, oh, I love Milfs and you come on over and I've got the baby and I'm like ashing onto its like head. Yeah, put my cigarette. Yeah. And then you were just like, I want to be your baby. And then I take the baby.
Yeah, I. Drop kick it OK because it's like showing my dedication to like why to MILF? Hood yeah. To MILF, Yeah. And to your like, to your role as a MILF. And also listen to the is is it It's so Silly podcast. Kind of silly, yeah. So we have a podcast. Yeah, if you if you think, if you thought this was silly, you can see be silly over there, babes. I love you guys as well. It's you and your friend. Yeah, it's called Kind of Silly Podcast.
Go and check that out too. I'll obviously put everything in the show notes for everyone to check out, but that's Queen and thank you so much for coming on as well. Freya and I are going now get jacked. Bye.