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52 - Parasocial Relationships & A Lesbian Kidnapping

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Transcript

Hello lesbians. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening and good night to everyone listening. This is. Giving Where's that from? Is that from the film with Jim Carrey in it? Is it? What? Liar. Liar. No, no, the one where. Bruce Almighty. No, the one where his whole life is fake. I literally mentioned it earlier today. Truman Show. Truman Show? I'm pretty sure he says that. Good afternoon. Good. Morning. I think so, yeah, probably. I've only watched it like once.

Years ago, I went through a phase where I thought I was in The Truman Show. I still kind of think it to this day. It's. Called mental illness. No, not. Actually, it's not dissociation, it's the fact that everywhere that I went would suddenly get busy. And it happened everywhere I went and it was so annoying. Like a place that's usually dead. I'd go into and then all of a sudden it'd be really busy. I'd walk into the shop, there'd be no one there, and then I'd go

to pay and there'd be queues. I was like, what? A Shriman show. True, or it could just mean that you've done something bad in the past life and it's just coming back to haunt you in the most annoying way possible. To queue for everything, Yeah, yeah, fair enough. We haven't actually talked about the event that we had it. Was a couple of weeks ago, now wasn't. It I thought it was insane. It was really good, so good.

We had the garden Bar which is around Notting Hill, and it was just like a massive enclosed garden and I'd say there's about 404 fifty lesbians. I'd say at least 450. It was insane, yeah. It was nice because there's like such a big outside space, which is great because like, let's face it, everyone's gone back to smoking. And I thought once we were told to go inside at like half ten

11:00-ish. She's 11. Yeah, 11. I thought, you know, like naturally it will like start to die down because generally we obviously do the pub nights. People always like being outside. Like if you live in London or you know, London, you know that there's not always a huge amount of choice when it comes to outside space. And people always do like kind of come in and like congregate

inside and continue the night. But like usually with the pubs that we go for, it's quite like a small space as well. So it's more like a social thing where people come in and talk. However, this place is like, it's kind of actually like a bar on the inside. I'd say like, yeah, Phil's very much like a pub on the outside, but a bar on the inside. And it's a big space as well. And they can turn the music up

really quite loud. So I was one of the last people to go into the bar because I was like shunting everyone in being like get your fucking ass inside now. And then by the time I got inside it was already feral. Like I walked in and the music was just blaring and there was just girls jumping, screaming everywhere on the tables, crowd surfing. Singing their heart. Like performing like Coyote Ugly. No, it was wild. It was. That is the closest I think I've ever seen to Coyote Ugly.

I think to be fair, I think I spurred them on a little bit because when we were inside, like the people that behind the bar, they obviously just had like no clue in terms of what we wanted to listen to and put on the worst music I think I've actually ever heard to the point where it sounded like construction work. I don't even know what it was. So I go over there and I hijacked their phone and I just put Chapel Rone on and suddenly that Chapel Rone is like, it's

like crack to lesbians. Like I see there's something in that music that as soon as they hear it. Chapel Rome is a bigger version of 2022. Renee Rapp. Yes, yeah. For sure, and a bigger version of 23 and kind of 2020 Fletcher and 2019 King Princess. She's just, I think because she's just giving off that like really out there mean lesbian vibe and people are lapping it. Up don't even know if it's that.

The music is just great, really good because actually on a on a like personality level, I don't get the best vibes from her. No. I've got to be honest. Yeah. Whereas like I'm not, to be fair, hilariously, given the topic that we're actually going to be talking about today, I don't fucking know these people. So like, let's not sit here and pretend that like I have any idea about what their personality is like because I

don't. But just the way that they present themselves as in Chapel, the things that I have seen recently outside of their music is just like not giving the best vibe. I think it's fair to make the assumption that you don't like the way that they come across, but it doesn't mean that you wouldn't like them in person. That's what I'm trying to say. We're trying to say.

We're saying like, not the best impression outside of music, but also the whole reason why I like her is because of her music so. Well, exactly. She's not really there to be your friend. She's there to provide entertainment and she's very good at it. Yeah, she does. Yeah, the lesbians are going crazy for Chapel. Road Well, we've got another one of those events now coming. We've actually got 2 events this month. Balls to the balls.

We knew that we wanted to do another one at the pub, so we're doing that one in like a couple of weeks and then at the Cock. And then we've got the lesbian Halloween night, which that's going to be at the Garden Bar. And I am. I'm so excited to see who everyone actually turns up as, because we put the theme as come as your lesbian icon, dead or alive. If no one comes as me, I might

just cry in the corner. I don't want anyone to come as me because I think I would just take immediate offence. So someone dresses as me and they like have a hunchback because they're like you have 0 posture Freya. They just, and they just kind of like scurry around the room and like oversize. Someone comes as me and just writes cunt across their forehead. That'd be. Great. To be fair, that actually wouldn't. Affect me? Funny.

Yeah, we went for two this month because now winter or, or autumn, but it's basically winter, let's be honest, is upon us very much. So what else do you really have to look forward to? Rat? Summer's over, so let's just begun pour a load of money down the drain in terms of beer, because what else have we really got to live for at this point? It's in like, it's our culture, isn't it really? I mean, if you were to look at any other culture that we've got, what is it?

Roast dinners. Roast dinners and Nigel Farage. Yeah, Adele, we've got Adele. Coldplay. Just trying to think of what comes to my mind when I was just. Talking, thinking about British bands and I thought about Blossoms who were playing at that Levi's event. And then I thought about me doing Shania Twain at that Levi's event. Joe what? Sometimes I just think, why haven't I got that thing in my brain that goes, you should be ashamed and embarrassed, But I don't.

I just don't have it. Like, I wonder if they did like a brain scan on me that they'd see like, that area of my brain. And she's fair. Though it was karaoke like you weren't the only one. You didn't just like gate crash the stage. No, we should train song and leave. Can you imagine? I also would have probably done that. I think the most embarrassing part of it was was that I was with you live like a few other people.

We were having a chat and I just up out of nowhere walked downstairs to the karaoke area and put my name down and wait very patiently for my time whilst frantically texting all of you and no one was getting my messages. So I was like, OK, this is a room for the people that are like PR work for brands or like a famous, and I'm about to come up here on my own to do Shania Twain. Man, I felt like a woman. I was just outside having a cigarette. Yeah, but then you heard me.

I did hear you and I was like, Oh my God. She is in all fairness to you guys, you did step out your cigarette and come running downstairs mainly for the. Record you to show Mellie. Yeah, to show our friend. We know that we would really enjoy. Well, I really want to try and get a karaoke machine for the Halloween night, so I'm going to try and make that happen because I think everyone loves karaoke. I don't know a person in this world that doesn't like it. I mean, I don't think that I'd

subject myself to it personally. Oh, you love it. I enjoy other people doing it, but I don't think that I would do it. I wouldn't enjoy it if I got up there. I simply wouldn't. Getting up there and doing my kink is karma. No, Oh come on. I wouldn't enjoy it. I would love to see it though. No, Yeah, yeah, if you. Were as drunk as you. Were I? Wouldn't. I still wouldn't. If there was a stage in a mic. No, I wouldn't.

No, I wouldn't. She got really drunk the other night and it was a Monday, which is just so funny, you know, It's just one of those nights. We just don't really. It's a cry for help. It's a cry for help and. She's I I pull up outside the house and she's so gutted that me and Liv have gotten out the car because she's absolutely blasting my Kinkus Karma hand out the window still singing to the top of our lungs. It was great, I enjoyed it.

Yeah, it was 5 minutes of peace and dissociation and then I got in and was violently, violently sick for two hours to the point where I was so sick that had nothing in me, but my body was still like, no, you need to get rid of this toxicity. To the point where I actually thought my eyes were going to pop out of my head. I felt that unwell. And at that point I thought, this is actually quite pathetic. Like, was it worth it? No, it wasn't. Like very much clearly need to sort myself out.

I've really been laying off the booze. This is why it really took by surprise because it was a Monday and I did really had no intention of like getting drunk because I've been really laying off drinking a lot. And for some reason I was just like drinking red wine, chatting with the owners of this local place that we go to who are also our friends and their little girls were there who like I love. So it's just socializing, blah, blah, blah. Had a few glasses of wine.

It was just like having a nice time, but it it wasn't touching me. Whereas usually with wine I'll know by, you know, let the third glass I can. I can feel it, but it wasn't touching me. I. Could see your pupils. So then I I kept going and then I kept going and then I kept going and then suddenly it was like zero to 100 and I would have stayed but it was a Monday night. So we left. And then as soon as I got through the door I thought I fucked. It sure, maybe that was your problem.

Maybe you shouldn't have come home. Maybe like, it's when you're left to your own devices, that's when you realize how fucked you are. Whereas had you not, you wouldn't have realized and you might have just gone on your merry way. Who knows? But yeah, red wine and you. I mean, I did know at some point. I was like, I want to go now. Scarlett lets me and goes, I'm

having a nice time. So I was like, OK, I'll just stay, but to. Be fair, you can just leave like you don't have to stay, no. I do usually leave, but I was like, yeah, no. And also we were there for another reason which we were celebrating. So I was like, OK, I'm just gonna, I'll stay today. We really wanted to talk about parasocial relationships because I feel like this has, well, going back to Chapel Rome kind of like has come into the forefront of the media at the

moment. And if you guys don't know what a parasocial relationship is? I'm going to read the definition to you right now. Parasocial relationships are one sided relationships where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time and the other party, the persona is completely unaware of the other's existence. Parasocial relationships are common with celebrities, organizations such as sports teams or television stars.

So it's basically one person has fixated, become emotionally invested, slash obsessed with another person who 9 times out of 10 will be in the media and completely irrelevant to their like daily life or no no association to their daily life. And this person fixates on said influencer media personnel to a point of obsession. And I think it can get quite dangerous at times and quite well. It is very dystopian. Yeah, it's where they think.

They basically will think that that person is their best friend, right? They'll think that they know. They think that they know them really, really well and that they have that thing where they're like, well, if we do, we're obviously going to be best friends.

So I'm going to play like a little bit of the video because Chapel Rona's come out to basically say this is getting too much and I'll play you at the beginning of it if you haven't already had of it. If you saw a random woman on the street, would you yell at her from the car window? You go up to a random lady and say, can I get a photo with you? And she's like, no, what the? And then you get mad at this random lady. Do you stalk her family?

Would you follow her around? OK, so I totally get this, but but OK, so I totally get where she's coming from. Like in the sense of it's getting too much. You can't be yelling at me from across the street. However, to compare it to a random lady, obviously we can't, we can't like put those two things parallel, right? We can't be like, let's get this random lady that nobody knows and somebody that's very well known in the media.

What she needs to be talking about is being like, I love you guys as fans, but you just need to like. Turn a line. Down and realise that there is a line. Yeah, because I think that she did go on a bit of like a manic speech about her fans and kind of looked quite disgusted towards the camera. Yeah. And so I don't think that was right, but I do get what she's saying in the sense where it's like, you can't be fucking chasing.

I think as well making this relevant to queer people is that I do think that queer fandom is way, way bigger than heterosexual fandom. As in, I do generally see from what I feel that queer obsession with people in the media is a lot bigger and a lot more intense than potentially what straight people in the media would experience from their

straight fandom. And I think that is because historically and obviously throughout childhood of the queer community now that are living online, being exposed left, right and centre to queer people, whether it be in the music industry or in the media or whatever that is, is actually

relatively new. And we never saw that growing up. So now to see even a glimpse of ourselves represented online, whether it be with relationships, people coming out, people just showing off their identity and being proud of who they are, creates this kind of like, Oh my God, this person is like amazing because they're giving me something that I never had growing up. And they do make it really queer centric, right?

Because it's like, as we've said before, when we were growing up that we had Ellen de Generes, she was the only one of the only out lesbians on TV, but she never really mentioned about her sexuality. There was still an element of shame. Whereas at the moment you do have your Fletchers, you do have your king princesses, you do have your Renee wraps, you do have your G flips. Like all of these queer people are showing up and doing absolutely incredible things for the community.

And obviously they're very much loved. But I do see a lot of that obsession with I, I think we've mentioned it before, but the whole obsession between Fletcher and Shannon beverages, relationships slash breakup and everything that came with that and the, the amount of videos and the comments underneath their videos and the, the, the, the edits that people would make and the, the rumours that would go round. It was just insane, Like genuinely insane and the same. As fuck that.

You fuck that. Yeah. And I, I do think that that isn't fandom and just loving someone in the media that I do feel is like relatively obsessive and more light does need to be brought to this is that no one in these positions are saying, you know, that they don't respect how much the fans love them and how dedicated they are are. And obviously everyone in those positions are there because of their family 100% and because of people who respect their art and love who they are.

And that is truly so important. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with kind of idolizing someone and looking up to them and loving and appreciating what they may or may not have brought to your life. But there is just a fine line between that them becoming quite intrusive to that person.

And there is a level of respect that needs to come with that, which is just because they have put themselves in a position of exposing themselves to the world doesn't mean that others have the right to take advantage of them putting themselves out there also. A Chapel Roan, right? Like that's her whole persona that she's putting out there. Nobody knows what she's actually like. I mean, like on stage, the dresses and her makeup. Like she's very theatrical. That is just very clearly like a

stage presence. It's like babes, you don't know this girl. And going back to what you were saying, yeah, I think it's really good. The artists that do say, I fucking love my fans and I wouldn't be here without them. Chapel Roan hasn't done that and is very much just like fuck you guys. And so I think that everyone was a bit like. Yeah, that's bad it. Feels a bit targeted to kind of almost all of her fans. Whereas it's like, no, let's

just like keep it real here. If you are stalking someone or you're yelling at them from across the street or you believe that they're your friend, yeah, that's not right. But purely being a fan and fucking loving someone and maybe losing your shit a little bit if you saw them in person because she got annoyed that somebody asked to take a photo with her, Yeah, that's bad. Come on, babe.

Like, I get that you don't want people fucking stalking you, but somebody asking for a photo with you, like, yeah, kind of. I don't know. For me, it just comes across as really, I don't know, it's just bad taste. I think The thing is as well though, is when people rise that quickly. Yeah. I can't imagine the kind of ego boost that you must get it. It must just, well, I think you have to be a certain type of person anyway to get that ego boost.

I really don't think it would do much for me, but people put themselves in this position to get to that level of fame for a reason. So it must stroke something for them that probably. Sometimes they don't like it, sometimes they don't like it, sometimes they think they want it and then they get to that level of fame and they. No, I think it's completely opposite. I actually think they love it, but their ego is so big they feel that they can be like fuck you a bit.

I don't know. I felt OK. I think it could go either way. I do. I do agree with that. I think you can either be like that or you can be really overwhelmed and be like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, I know that she's been around for a while making music like Pink Pony Club. I'm pretty sure she did in like 2018 or something crazy. But she did rise really fast, like all of a sudden just up, didn't she? Trying to I still don't think she's overwhelmed.

Trying to think of and a rap got overwhelmed, but I still felt dealt with it really well. Yeah, I don't know if Chapel Rhone is overwhelmed or just on her high horse a bit. On a pink pony because. A friend of ours went to one of her gigs and apparently she yeah, our friend. Said that the vibes were off. Vibes are off. And she just didn't do a load of songs. I don't think that she was like people showed went to go for. I remember there was something in particular, but I've

completely forgotten. Yeah, I can't remember what it was, but yeah, I just think fine line, baby. I mean, but then obviously there. Is that really dangerous side of them? People becoming so obsessed that it becomes dangerous? And that is really bad. Like you've just experienced it recently where people are cloning you and pretending to be 1. Catfish me, right? Multiple people have been cloning my identity. I don't know why they've chosen me, saying that they're a

private account of mine. I want to make it really clear that the only social media that I have is my open, very public tick tock. It's fair, I'm pretty sure with an ice cube at the end of it and then my Instagram account and then lesbian supper club. It's so weird that these like cloners are like just having really inappropriate conversations with people and trying to do some crazy shit. So I don't know, that kind of doesn't like fall into the same

realm, I don't think. But I think they are taking advantage of using me as bait, which is so fucking weird. Like who actually does that? I don't know. I mean, I know that it happens all the time, but why? Money, I suppose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People do it to trick others into cash sadly and a lot of people do fall for it and I don't know why but just be really vigilant because if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is with anything in life.

Amen, sister. I know it's crazy, but yeah, those are my, those are my only accounts. But yeah, I don't know, I feel like I do get it. I do get why the parasocial relationships are happening more

and more with queer artists. And I think the main thing as well As for us to just like, I think that's why it's so important to have your queer community that you form like such good friendships in because it's people that you can relate to. If you only have celebrities to relate to and no one in real life, you are going to feel like next level attached to this person because you feel so alone

in your own experience. And they're the only other person to you that's going through it and is speaking about it. And you're like, fuck yeah, I love this and it. And it can become that like unhealthy level of like obsession. So I think that everyone should just get more gay mates, basically more gay mates, more gay dogs. Not gay dogs, just more gay, more gay, more dogs. Before we go any further, this episode of The Lesbian Supper Club is sponsored by Better Help.

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I think just a strap. On in general are lesbian. Pub nights, yeah 100%. Just straight up coma lesbian first. Date just any form. Of scissoring and maybe maybe tripping. A lesbian breakup would send a straight person into a coma. I genuinely don't think that they've got the stomach for the prison scene with bets in the our word would send a straight person into a coma. Agreed. Sure, we need. Another L word, don't we? Fucking hell this is getting ridiculous now.

They've done generation. Q But that was shit. It wasn't great. Was it? It was just shit. So today's Horror Story is actually very fitting to the the parasocial relationships, obsessive type behaviours, stalking type behaviours. And it's actually titled Stalked and kidnapped. Oh hi girls, love the pod. Thought I'd share a semi traumatic experience I had with an older girl when I was around 17 which lasted for about 6 months. To give you some back story, at this time I wasn't really sure

about my sexuality. I just started playing senior football and this all took place in that community. If you know, you know. There was a girl on my team a few years older than me who paid me a lot of attention. We made out a couple of times when we were drinking, but it felt casual, like something between friends. I was close to her and our group, but as time passed around age 16 or 17, I realized she was mostly using me to drive her around and keep her company between her other conquests.

Wait, hold on A. Minute so she was younger, but she was driving the other girl around. I think it'll make. Sense later. OK one night I was out on the town with some girls from my team and we ran into a few players from another. One of them knew my friend and they had been together before but now hated each other. There's the girl started coming on to me and I was in my I don't give a fuck era a little drunk and ended up hooking up with her in the club.

This moment led to months of trouble. FYI this girl was 24 and I was only 17. That's rogue. That's disgusting. Actually, that's gross. Yeah, after. That night, the girl from the club messaged me on Facebook asking me out. I declined. Still, my friends and I who were broke would occasionally ask her for rides from parties. Unfortunately, during one of those rides, we impulsively decided to go skinny dipping at the beach. I was in good shape then and didn't mind the occasional nude run.

I love that. But I was in shape then. I know. But I remember walking up to her completely naked, asking for her help to take off my watch. That seemed to be the moment she became obsessed with me and I cringe thinking about it now. From there, the text became constant. She messaged me daily and when I started ignoring her, she took it to the next level. She began texting my friends, saying things like she was in love with me, that I must be an alien because I kissed too well.

When my friend also started ignoring her, the situation escalated. An alien. Because she kissed so well. I know. Oh. My God. That's so lame, she started. Showing up at my football games, which got progressively mooring sunsettling. One time she sat next to the mother of one of my teammates, who also happened to be my high school guidance counsellor, and described in graphic detail what she wanted to do to me. Having someone I'd known since I was 7 tell me that was

mortifying. At another game I saw her talking to my 11 year old sister and my mum. Stay away, honey. When I got. Home my sister told me she had invited herself over for dinner and had even suggested a job she thought would be good for me once I finished school to my mum I told my family I didn't know her and that she must be a weirdo and not to engage with her. Then came the truly creepy moments, as if the ones prior just hasn't been saying what

the. Fuck, I'm already terrified she sent me a. Picture of my dad walking to the train station with the caption going to ask him for permission with the ring emoji no. Shut up. She also. Sent photos of my car outside my house. No and. At this point. I wasn't just uncomfortable, I was worried. I'm calling the fucking. Police is what I'm doing. She's insane. I work part. Time at a local supermarket and she would come in and buy things just to interact with me.

I became hostile because I didn't know what she'd do next. It escalated to a point where she and a friend would call the store landline asking for me, then hang up. This happened so often that I ended up being warned I could lose my job. She even started showing up at high school party she had no business being at asking people about me. The situation felt really suffocating. Fucking. How the scariest? Moment, though, was what I refer to as my kidnapping. I've been out drinking.

I really don't find it funny but this is like so bad I I'm laughing because I don't understand how people can be so delusional that they wouldn't die of embarrassment of even thinking about doing these things, let alone actually going ahead. I've been out drinking at a friend's house party with my football friends. Later we moved to a pub but the bouncer recognised my fake ID and wouldn't let me in. My phone was dead, so one of my friends called another teammate who had offered us a ride

earlier. When she picked me up, I quickly realized we weren't headed towards my house. I asked her about it and suddenly the stalker, Oh no. The stalker girl popped up from the back of the car saying I was coming with her for a bit. I told them I wanted to go home, but they refused. I wasn't feeling brave enough to jump out of a moving car so I had no choice but to go along.

They took me to her house where I was basically held for hours as they berated me about the other girl I had originally hooked up with saying she was a terrible person. Which to be fair, I later realized my eyes was true. She told me the guys I was seeing would never look at me the way she could and that every time I tried to leave they were asking to borrow their phone or use the bathroom. They refused and physically stopped me from going.

I was genuinely scared but didn't know what to do. Eventually, around 4:00 AM, they finally dropped me home. Oh my God, I'd go. Feral the next day. I found 2 ring pops in my mailbox with the note saying just until I can afford a real one. Loved last night with you baby. Luckily I got to them before my dad did. He would have lost it. After that I became a recluse and started avoiding social events until she solely disappeared from my life.

Not long after I met my first real girlfriend who I've now been with for eight years. So in the end things turned out OK for me, but at the time it was terrifying and overwhelming for a 17 year old girl. So yeah, that's my strange non threatening but still terrifying stalker story. Sorry for the length. Hope someone at least gets a laughed out of my stupidity. Well I don't, no, I'm just, well actually no no, first of all it is threatening. It's not. That's what I thought I was.

That's very threatening, yeah. Because if that was a. Man, doing that to a 17 year old girl, that would be like, yeah, deemed as way, way, way worse. And secondly, you, it's not your stupidity at all. No. And. Also she was saying like for a 17 year old, I'm 30, that would terrify me. If anything it would terrify me more. I I don't know how she didn't go feral in the house for a start, because I think I would have been kicking and screaming, running out the door, whatever it took.

I just can't believe that people are actually like this. So like did she must have convinced herself that this girl just really desperately wanted to be with her but just like, was playing hard to get or something? Like what the fuck no. I just think like clearly deluded, mentally unwell person that needs a lot of help. Yeah, but also. This worries me because what's she doing now? Or we wouldn't know because she's at underage children's parties.

So we wouldn't see her not about we'd probably be all right. But the fact that she was 24 and she was 17 as well, I mean, that's your first seven years. Which, like, isn't bad if someone's like 28 and 35 or 35 and 42. Yeah, 100. Percent, but seven like a child, 20. It's just disgusting. Actually, no, that is. Gross. That is gross. I'm sorry. I hate when they're like, but they looked older. They have. They're not older like I'm 20.

Nine and I genuinely now would never go for someone under the age of 26. And that would be my absolute, yeah, absolute. Minimum age and it would. Be very much dependent on the person as well. But I'm sorry like that, I, I feel bad for this girl because that's actually traumatising. Well, the fact that it did traumatise her, she couldn't leave the fucking house. It's. It's just horrible, but also taking. Photos of the dad's car.

No, the dad being like sorry, not gonna ask his permission. The dad walking. At the train station it like you've got now. I mean, if you don't laugh, you'll cry 'cause it is like so bad. It's good, but if you're listening to this and you've ever been someone that has incessantly messaged someone or gone to a place where you know that that person may be in the hopes that you bump into them because you think it's going to be some kind of love story, don't do that.

Yeah, don't do. It because that. Person's not interested. They're not avoiding you to play hard to get, they're just avoiding you. And if they are avoiding you to play hard to get, then avoid them back and they'll come around that way. Showing up to their place of work or stalking their family friends and capturing them is is not the way to go about it. I'm just going to tell you that straight up just in case. None of. You realised that is not actually a good idea, just in case.

You need APSA. This is it. It's not the way to go about it, but she's going into the. Supermarket as well. Oh my God, it does actually like Joe. What always amazes me about psychos is there stamina. Why have they always got so much energy? Because I couldn't be asked to do that to someone even if I like do you know what I mean? I'm way. Too lazy for that.

No, I am. Yeah, no, I think turning up at work, taking the photo of the dad, I wish that she did actually go up to the dad and answer the permission as he probably would have knocked her clean. True. My dad a. 100% would have got a small older. Person that is, that is everywhere I am at the moment. I don't know if it's coincidental or not. We'll see. I've hired a hit woman. They're not very good because I'm still here, but that's that's what they. Want you to put it. No, I don't.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. She's, yeah. It's just, it's just different types of people in the world, some of which I perceive to be extremely, extremely strange. Yeah. And that's. Just the way the cookie crumbles. Or maybe it's just. Part of my Truman Show, I'm sure people. Will assume me to be extremely strange and bizarre in some cases. Yeah, no, I perceive you as strange. I also perceive myself as strange. I hate nothing more than someone saying I'm weird. I'm crazy.

Yeah, but. That's just, yeah, I'm just super. Ran Cringe. Anyway lesbians that's it for today we will speak to you next week and if you are stalking or you have a stalker let me know I want to hear. We love you buddy guys, see you. Bye bye.

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