It's time to talks Flo, It's time for the show. You hear this song on the radio racks fast. Let me get that photograph? Sports Talk Radio starting now. It's got What's Up everybody, and welcomed episode one hundred and seventy five of Let Me get that Photograph? As always, my name is Drew or the d H and joining me Mark co host Scott Rappapool, what's up, dude? You know, dude, I feel like one seventy
five should be a milestone episode. It is well, I mean, it's like every every you know on the twenty fives, you know kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, well, I mean it is a milestone. It's a it is a It's a big molestone in my opinion. Hey, we're twenty five away from two hundred. We'll be hitting that really soon, I know. But I feel like, you know, we should be doing like a part for this one. Um yeah, you know, but we'll save it. We'll save it for two hundred hindsight and all that stuff. Yeah,
two hundred will definitely be a big one. But welcome everybody. Hope everyone is doing well. We have a jam packed show for you guys today. Even though it's not a big party. There's a lot of news and a lot of stuff Scott to talk about, and um, we'll dive right into it. At least finally the news broke before we recorded instead of two hours after we recorded, like everything else seems to it. Then, if you guys caught her, it's only it's coincidence because I got busy yesterday and
we couldn't record on it on the Tuesday when we normally do. So yeah, no, I mean we got lucky. As Tom Brady has announced that he is retiring again, except for there's a couple of differences. This time. His contract is out, so he's not getting out of a contract. He could have gone anywhere he wanted period. He couldn't have the first time, so there was a reason for retiring before. But Tom Brady retiring from football, the message he sent really seemed like it, uh, like he
meant it. Um, I know he got the condo in Miami and everyone thought he was gonna be a dolphin. No, that's where his kids live and he can't legally move them out of state, so of course he's gonna get a beautiful house where his children are in the middle of a divorce. He's probably gonna get it, and he's probably gonna get a bunch of other houses and a whole ton of other places too, right, I mean, and let's be honest, Tom Brady's not done with football. He's just done
playing football. I mean, he do you know what's the what's the what's the over under run? How long he takes him to come back? Well, I don't think he comes back. I don't if you gave me an overunder I mean, if you were giving me odds that the odds would have to be like that he doesn't come back, would be probably like minus five fifty or minus six hundred for me. Like I it was different before because he was leaving New England and you knew he wanted to win a Super Bowl
somewhere else to prove he could. Now he's done it, and he's he is a lot older, and you saw his age this year for the first time ever on the football field. You saw Tom Brady's age, and I think he if anyone's going to look at that film and see it, it's going to be him. And so there's a big difference from when he retired from New England and he wanted to prove Belichick, the fans, the writers,
anyone in the whoever it was that he could win elsewhere. Now he's done it, what else does he have to prove to himself or to anyone
else. I think it's about doing, you know, kind of doing something you know a little bit different, and there's you know, there's been a lot of discussions with the quarterback injuries and problems at the forty nine Ers have had that Brady may end up there for on a one year contract because you know, again he grew up in the area, he grew up a Niners fan, and he also has ties he else ties in Carolina, So he's been linked with Carolina with Orlovsky, who brought up all the business ties and
relationships he has. There's a lot of places he could go that would yeah, but I think I think the forty nine Ers would make sense because you've got the sentimental aspect of it to him, as far as you know where he grew up, things like that. But then you also have the fact that you know that team is with the exception of the quarterback injuries, which is kind of what their downfall was, you know. And at the end, I think that team is stacked to and is primed to make a run
next year at you know, at the Super Bowl. No, so do I no matter who the quarterback is. Um. I think the forty nine ers, which we'll talk a lot about them and some of their quarterbacks here in just a few moments, but that I think that they're they're overly stacked at quarterback with multiple capable quarterbacks. I do think the system that they run with the players around him helps tremendously to be able to plug in play, which would be nice for Tom Brady to just jump and plug and play in
there. And I could see him moving over there because that would probably be But I mean, at the same time, you thought that they were going to win this year, and once again, I'm going to go back to Tom Brady. Did not look like Tom Brady this year. I'm sorry, And I mean his card market showed it. His card market went down during the season. There was not the massive amount of hype that you always see for Brady cards. Carolina was within two, Get was tied with them with
three games left to win the division. I mean, and Carolyn, look, I mean, so Tom Brady, well, that wasn't really saying much because the division itself was you know, of course, because that's my point, tom Brady was not Tom Brady, that he was not the exact same Tom Brady. And so when you're talking about coming back or going for this one last ride, I don't know if plugging him into San Francisco gives them
a better option than the quarterbacks that they have. I just don't. It's because it is the system there, it's d system, and once they figure out how to use Christian McCaffrey, it's going to be a lot bigger and a lot worse. I mean, they might as well have used him at quarterback on on Sunday, because he probably would have been better than Johnson. He can throw too, he throw, he can throw, he can run. You know, you don't, you don't have the thing. Honestly,
that's what I would have done. You know what, Screw the fourth string quarterback. Let's just let McCaffrey run it, you know, run the line, make some passes. It comes runs. It comes back to things I've said a lot, and that's that the forty nine ers have not figured out
how to use Christian McCaffrey the right way. Yet. We talked about it when we were talking about who we thought would go to the Super Bowl, and I said that I didn't think they'd figured out how to use him yet, and they haven't and when they eventually do, unless they're forcing him to adapt to their system, which I think is stupid because he fits their system. You just need to expand his role. But yeah, he should have
played quarterback over Josh Johnson. But Brady, let's move to the card market for a few moments before we move on on to a couple other things relating into some quarterbacks in the league. But so Brady's card market, now he's
done. Let's say he's done. Let's say he doesn't come back. He's done for right now, what do you see his card market doing in the future, Because it's always interesting when even an all time great like Peyton Manning or someone like that, retires, it's always interesting to see what happens with their cards. So what do you see Tom Brady's you know, immediate and kind of long term effect on his cards? Well as far as the immediate
effect goes. You know, this is a unique situation because we had it a year ago, right, you know, Brady announced his retirement all of a sudden, the cards shot through the roof, and you know, then he came back and they started to you know, and part of it was him, you know, starting the season not playing very well, and part of it was just the market in general, you know, being down overall. But the question is, now that he has retired for a second year
in a row, will we see the same kind of bump. I don't think it's going to be as big as we saw last year. I think he gets a little bit of a bump, and then long term, I think, you know, I think there's the Hall of Fame bump that you
know that's going to come. And I don't think there's you know, if there's any player out there that you know you have questions on whether or not he is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, well, yeah, Tombry, Yeah, I mean there's no, there's no that's unanimous across
the board immediately exactly. And you know, I'm not sure if the NFL should do this, but you know, you remember when Wayne Gretzky retired, Yes, you know, the NHL waived the three year waiting period and ducted him into the Hall of Fame immediately, and it's like, yeah, yeah, the commissioner actually liked Wayne Grat's case. Though, no, it's probably not going to do that for Tom Brady now. And that's and that's probably
true. And you know, I'm kind of kind of shocked they didn't do that with Michael Jordan two in the NBA, but you know, they made him wait it out. I think he gets the Hall of Fame bump.
And I think you see a steady rise, you know, that is that is going you know, long term, that is going to be just a consistent you know, maybe the one percent two percent you know, year over year kind of thing, you know, every year and it and it becomes you know, kind of on par with vintage you know card where you you know, you do see a small, you know, for the most part, a small but steady increase on a year over year basis with you know,
taking in you know, market conditions into account and things like that too. All Right, I completely agree with you. I don't don't know if you're gonna see much of a bump. I think you're gonna, like immediately, I think you're gonna see a lot of cards sold because people buy them, and so you might see a tiny bump because a lot of people are buying, and so the supply may be less for the demand for that time being, you know what I mean, and what's available, not overall,
but for the time being. So I think you're gonna see some sort of a bump. But then, like you said, Tom Brady, I don't think you're gonna see astronomical bumps at any time, not even the Hall of Fame or anything like that, because I think a lot of that's baked in. But you are gonna see this is someone who's bigger cards, especially autos, because he has so few and things like that, they're going to continue
to rise. You may have some that, you know, don't set record sales, but for the most part, a lot of his stuff is going to continue set record sales. Contenders as they sell, will probably keep out selling each other, you know, a little bit each year. I mean, he's that type of player. It is going to be interesting to see how this last year affects everything. Um not going out when he probably should
have. Well, I think I think they seen it, but I think we've seen it because over the last this last season, his prices are down right, and not all of that is due to the market conditions. Yeah, I mean a lot of that is due to the fact that he played like crap. Yes, but I think I think tom Brady's cards, at least long term, when we're looking at the market, I think you said
it best. It's gonna be like vintage. I mean, he's gonna be one of the most in demand cards no matter what once He's retired every year all the time, and stuff's going to continue to rise. It's just I don't think you're going to see those meteoric bumps. I mean, who knows. Maybe he does something incredible outside of the sport that changes the world. Who knows he is Tom Brady? Um? I mean in Ted, they did try and steal his jizz, so hets have magical powers. But you
know that that is true. And he's got the new movie, and he's got the new movie out yeah this week. Yeah, So I mean maybe he goes mainstream Hollywood like The Rock and gets even bigger post retirement. Who knows with Tom Brady, but the man I love to hate Tom Brady hanging up the cleats for now. I still think it's for good. But we
shall see. But Scott, let's move on. Now from a quarterback that's hanging up the cleats to a couple other quarterbacks that are hanging up their cleats, but not for good, just because they failed to make the super Bowl. The super Bowl is set, which will have our super Bowl talk next week. We'll do our picks and everything, and I will I will hold on before you get into that, I do want to say that, Wow, the two of us both wound up with last week's episode, we pick
the same teams to make it to the super Bowl. We were both wrong, very wrong. Yeah. I do want to point that out because when you know, this is one of the few shows that when when we get it wrong, and in this case, we got it horribly. Oh yeah bad. You know we're going to come out and tell you that, hey, we fucked up. Yeah. So I hopefully nobody, you know, place any bets based upon you know, our I mean I did, and I will say that I think one of the games would have gone completely different
head their quarterback made injured early in the gas. Yeah, let's be honest there. Um. But yeah, so the super Bowl is set. Of course Philly and Kansas City, so well we'll touch on them a little later. But the quarterbacks. Uh, And we'll touch on the quarterbacks here too as well. But I want to talk about the quarterbacks that are left, obviously Mahomes and Hurts, and the quarterbacks that didn't make it Purty, you
know, Herbert Burrow. I mean, you look at the names of these quarterbacks that that got so close but ended up not making it and their market because I have a random going to go on here in a minute, but I want to get your opinion on everything. But what do you what do you think about you know, the quarterback market as as they get eliminated as
the season comes to an end. I you know, we all know how finnicky you know, the collectors and the fans and you know, I don't you know they see like when the Chargers went out and you know, obviously that knocked out Herbert. Yeah, and you you know, people are you know, hating on him, and you know, prices went down all the people, you know, hey buying buying Herbert at twenty percent of comps and that kind of stuff. I think they're failing to look at the totality of
the situation as to why they got knocked out. You know, it's kind of similar to Okay, well, Purdy's not in the Super Bowl because Purdy got hurt early in the game, and then when he came back out, people are getting on him. Why isn't he throwing the deep out? The dude had a torn you see. Yeah, he basically needs Tommy john surgery, right. And the fact that he was even able to throw the ball like period, yes, is miraculous. His injury is, i would say,
is probably the reason that won it wasn't a closer game. Yeah. Defense, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's another story. But you know, they couldn't do anything on offense because they had nobody to throw the ball. Johnson was a bust. Yeah, you know, but you're talking about, you know, your fourth string quarterback, you know, coming in and playing in the NFC Championships like, oh, okay, who would have thought this would happen? Yeah? And by the way, the fourth string quarterback
who had played for four was it fourteen different? Yes? Seven or eight or something ridiculous like that? Yes, Um, you know that That's one thing that drives me nuts, dude, Like, okay, the I mean use brock parity as an example. I've seen so many posts that have just driven me crazy about brock parity. Blah blah blah. Oh he lost. This proves that he can't handle it. He's a bust. Haha. All these party cards are gonna be worth ten dollars in the future, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. This is the dumbest thing that I see in the hobby, and it is so cyclical, and it drives me fucking crazy because Okay, yes, all right, he lost. Obviously his stuff is gonna go down. A lot of people's stuff is gonna go down. It's my favorite time to start buying. That's what happens in the hobby. But they say, oh, why did these people pay this big money on these cards? Well, because maybe they believe in him. And you know,
my three my three year rule. So you've got to give these guys a chance to develop. We're looking at these young guys and judging their entire career before they've even played five years in the league. Look at Jalen Hurts right now. Jalen Hurts during year two was considered the big It was a toss up between Yields or Hurts, and it was Hurts possibly being a massive bust. Look what he's been able to do what Brock Purdy is gonna do.
We have no idea but the but this whole getting on and just embracing the fact that cards are dropping tremendously is just so stupid to me. And now that the season's over, they're gonna have a basketball player in a week, once they finally start paying attention to basketball, it'll be someone in basketball for a little bit, then baseball, then we'll find someone in football. And it's just gonna rinse and repeat itself. It drives me crazy. So
I do have a concern about Brock Purdy. I think there is one legitimate concern about Brock Purdy. What's that? And that concern is Trey Lance. Well, yes, by the time they come back, Lance is going to be healthy. You know, he'll be He'll be healthy to play. Purdy should be recovered relatively close to the start of training keep you know, even if he does have to have surgery. Garoppolo, I believe his contract is up after the year this year, so he's not going to be a you
know, he's not going to be a factor here. But who is going to be the starting quarterback in San Francisco. Purdy has proven that he can. He can do it, but so is Lance. You know, although the one knock I have against Lands is that he lost to the Bears, you know, week one. Now, granted the weather conditions and then you know they're in week one well, but they were also basically playing the game in a kiddie place. Yes, yeah, so, you know, not
exactly normal conditions. So if Trey Lance becomes the starter again, Purdy is the backup and Lance plays the entire season and Purdie doesn't really get a lot of action, you know, all right, I can see a drop in value on that because he was relegated to backup status. But that's the concern. That's so It's got nothing to do with his potential or his skill or
anything like that. It's solely due to the fact that he may not be, you know, the starting quarterback next year because their starter is coming back, right, And I mean, how does he feel about that? Does it force a trade? There's a lot of stuff. I will say that forty nine ers are just loaded with some possibilities if they want to move on and be content with the Josh Johnson type backup. But I think they just
saw why you need a good backup. But you know when we're talking about the hobby and the market, Yeah, whoever ends up with that backup gig, that's that's going to be interesting to see how it goes. Do people say up, he's the backup and give up on him, or does that turn into the prospect of like all he's on the like the Jordan Love effect. You know, oh he's on the bench, but he's coming and so
what what happens there? I mean, you could have theoretically two of the most hyped and most in demand quarterbacks going in the next year being on the same team. So I I think, I honestly think that they both remit you know, they're both going to stay in San Francisco next year. I think the question is which one of them is going to not be their long term right, because it's it is going to come down too because you've got there literally a year apart just for his draft status. You know, we're
not talking about a situation where Love comes in. He's got a few years because he's playing behind Rogers, just getting older and things. Now you got to pay these guys. Yeah, there is gonna come a time where one of them and they're not gonna They're not gonna pay them both, No, but so one of them will get traded and with the question is going to be which one, And I think it all depends on who stays healthy.
I mean Lance could come out and get hurt in week three, week four, and then you know, Purdy takes over finishes the rest of the season, and now all of a sudden, it's probably going to look like Lance is right, He's gonna get rated and Purdy's going to remain the starter. Or it could be it could be the other way out. It could be that Purdy never gets any playing time because Lance remains healthy, and now all of a sudden, Purdy's the one that's going to be on the trading block.
Yep, well I will. I will say one thing. You know, I brought Purdy to me. Let those cards fall if you want two
people. But giving up on him is something I would definitely not do, because, like I said, I think the quarterback situation there's going to be interesting, and it might not be a three week flip or a two month flip, but I think down the line, I think Purdy is a pretty strong investment, especially if you're looking at whereas cards are now when they settle and go back down to non you know, super Bowl or on hype type
of stuff. But they're not gonna. I don't think they're gonna trade either one of them this year because the quarter the draft class with quarterbacks this year is actually pretty decent. Yeah, he so, I think they're gonna either twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five, when the quarterback class coming out of college may not be as strong, that would be the time to trade one of the two of them, because you've got you're going to get the better
value for him. Absolutely, And speaking on Holton Ayer's mark my words, he's coming Bowl MVP, Senior Bowl MVP, and then the NFLPA Bowl MVP. You watch this, dude, He's coming but anyway from the East Carolina University of course. But we've got two quarterbacks in the super Bowl, Mahomes and Hurts. What do you think the Super Bowl does to their respective values in the hobby? Well, Mahomes, you know, he had a massive high from a value standpoint a couple of years ago, and his stuff has
fallen off a lot, you know, compared to that. Not all of it is, you know, is because of his play or anything like that. But a good chunk of it is he has to win in order to see a large bump, and I think, and honestly, I think it's a short term bump at that. Hurts. On the other hand, I think he's I think he gets the bump regardless of whether or not he wins or loses, as long as he plays a really good game. And I honestly think this is going to be a really close game. I don't see
it being a yeah, I don't see it being a blow. No. I think, like you said Mahomes, a lot of this almost with Mahomes and his pricing, I think is almost baked in as he's going to be one of the next heir apparents, and so I think a lot of his stuff is really kind of already there. But when you look at Hurts, this is a season and this is a run where he's establishing himself as one
of those main stays in the hobby. And I agree with you if he if he performs in the super Bowl, even with a loss, if he has a good game, shows he belongs and you know, and can keep it competitive and his stats look good. He doesn't turn the ball, over a time, you know, it's set, etc. He's gonna get a
bump for a long time. And I think people are gonna look at him, maybe not in the same breath as Mahomes, because people have him so far ahead of everyone else, and which is debatable, but they have him so far ahead of everyone else. This could put Hurts, you know, right below him and in that next tier. Yeah, exactly. And Hurts has one thing going for him that Mahomes doesn't. As far as I know, Hurts does not put ketchup on every time, and that's a major name
comes to Mahomes. And don't get me wrong. Look I like ketchup on certain things. Great on Hamburgers, things like that, but you're putting it on sneak, You're putting it on hot dogs, which is like sacrilegious. Here in Chicago. They'll actually arrest you for putting ketchup on a hot dog in Chicago. But that's just I don't know, I just don't. I can't pull for somebody who puts ketchup on everything. Yeah, no, no, I understand you there, but you know, well, we'll see what
happens. One Thanks for shure. It's going to be interesting. There's gonna be a lot of movement with a lot of a lot of quarterbacks in particular, and a lot of position players. There's a lot of position players that are going to be impacted by this as well. We'll kind of focus on the Super Bowl and some of the players in it and their market value and everything like that on next week's show when we do our super Bowl preview.
But it is definitely going to be interesting with all these quarterbacks. Absolutely. But you know what, speaking of a guy who puts ketchup on his hot dogs, yeah, let's talk about Lebron for him, all right? And I just I want to preface that for those of you that are not for Chicago, when you say somebody puts ketchup on their how that is the biggest
insult. Yes you can, you can lay on somebody here. So yeah, you know my feelings on Lebron, But let's talk about let's talk about that for a minute, because the dude is I mean, look, he's had an amazing career. There's no doubt that he's a great player. There's no doubt he's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. He's what
three hundred points away from the score. You know, yes, he's approached time scoring record and you're seeing you know, when we talked about this a little bit before the show, you're seeing a massive increase percentage wise in the card market for quite a few key cards. Now I mean not everything across the board. Well, actually most stuff is up, but a lot of
it the top chrome, PSA, tens and things like that. I mean, you're looking at over twenty five thirty increases in those over the last couple of weeks. He's approached and he's played fifth I think maybe I think he played, let's he played last night, sixteen or seventeen games all season that's always played, and I mean granted, every game he plays, he's putting up absturd numbers. But he is approaching that all time scoring record. And
that is something that I assumed was baked in. I thought everyone just figured that that was going to happen and it was just going to pass by and be nothing. But you're seeing it in the market. And if you go to one of our awesome sponsors card lad and you look at their ladder where they've got a lot of his key cards, and you look at a lot
of his sales and his trends. Every card you can click on is going up, and on their card ladder, his number, the number one card on the ladder right now is the two thousand and three Ultimate Collection Auto out of two fifty. He's on their light crazy and stuff that. I mean, the value right now is at sixty grand. I mean, these things are approaching not ultimate hype level, you know, uh places, but they're
getting back up to where these are significant increases. And it's depriving to me anytime anytime you wind up with you know, a you know, thirty to forty percent, you know, or higher increase over a short period of time, you know, which we're talking about a matter of a couple of weeks. Yeah, you know that that's a pretty significant increase. And I'm and I'm not talking about it, and like that doesn't apply to like stuff that's under ten dollars, right, you know, but I just want you want
to put that out there. But when we're talking about that for a you know, something like a lebron Tops Chrome rookie, you know, that's kind of a surprise. The biggest and it's not really a surprise that the ultimate out of two fifty is not you know, it is seeing a large increase because you know, again the more limited the print run on something, the the you know better it's going to do, you know, in situations like
this. So I kind of understand that, but I am surprised at how high it's going because this is one of those things where it's like the season started, you know, Lebron was not far away from you know, the scoring record, and everybody kind of assumed that this point he was going to hit it. You know, at some point this season. The question is when you know, and three hundred point, you know, three hundred points away. You know, he's got average thirty points for the next ten games,
assuming he plays ten games. But here just just as an update, like I was saying, his tops chrome in the last month there rady to growth at thirty point two six percent from fifty eight hundred. Now it's currently at seven thousand, five hundred and fifty five with a high sale of eight thousand and five hundred and twenty three in the last month a loan. So, I mean, this stuff's rising, and I think he's that boat. I think he's kind of in that Brady boat. Yeah, I just don't
know. What to think about it, because you know, we've got a obviously a milestone event coming up. Yeah, but at the same time, we you know, he's getting older, he's playing fewer games, his team's terrible, His team's terrible, which shouldn't which shouldn't be terrible, and that's no, Well, they haven't had a D when they have Lebron and a D on the court together. If they can never keep him on the court, which I think they're I think, I mean, there's a million teams
in the NBA right now, around five hundred. I think they just look at the records and say, okay, we can get into the postseason. Let's just get these guys healthy. I don't think they're trying. I think I literally think they're just coasting because they know they can get in. Now. That's a dangerous game they're playing because there's some crazy good young teams that could easily beat them if they don't start to pick it up after the All
Star Game. But I do think after All Star weekend you see a completely different Laker team. This team is right now, let you know, coasting or going through the motions, letting Lebron play a little bit ads recovering. Let's see what happens when the Lakers are actually on the court, because this isn't really the true Lakers yet. But like I said, there's a ton of young teams out in the out in the West that I like way more
in la oh I would agree, I don't. And even if the Lakers do some you know, end up making the playoffs, I don't think they make it to the conference final game. No, I don't, no, no, no, no, no, not even not even close. I
think they're I honestly think they're a first round exit. Well, but with a with a team that is that stacked making it to the final, you know, if anything short of making it to the finals, it's a feeling as a failure, absolutely so. But I'm yeah, but I'm curious, you know, when he hits that, and you know, are the prices baked in now or are we going to see an even bigger bump when he when he actually crosses Yeah? Is this the start of something you know?
Going up? Is this something that's gonna be a continuing trend as everyone waits for him ultimately to play with his son and then retire or since we all know that's the game plan, is it or is this uh, maybe just a couple of people wanting to grab him real quick because I think he's but well, and we'll kind of end it with this, but I think he's in a Brady level when he retires, as his cards are just going to continue to go up. You're gonna have your haters, but Michael Jordan had
a million haters when he played. Look at how he's viewed now, and you know, Lebron will be viewed the same way, I think in ten twenty years, and so I think his cards can are in that Brady era when he does retire. But to see this increase now was quite shocking to me because I really assumed that this was baked in. I did not think that this was going to be something where all of these cards, including just his Basetop's Chrome PSA ten, which does have a couple thousand in pop,
we're gonna go up that much. That was That's quite shocking to me for a record that was I mean, it was a guarantee that it was going to be broken. Yeah, yeah, there was no there was no question about it. But you know, knowing that you know he was not done this year, you know, knowing, you know that he's going to play another couple of years until you know he gets cheat. You know, he wants to. I know he wants to play one season with his son.
And you know, I think, honestly, as much as I don't like Lebron, I think that would actually be cool because I think that the first time, maybe the first time, that you'd have a father and son playing together on the same team in the NBA. Yes, he's already playing against opponents kids, yeah, that he played against. Now ultimately he'd get to play with his kid. It's a it's a pretty amazing accomplishment. But oh, I do and I do want to say that a father, father,
and son playing together on the same team has happened before. Yep, Gordy Howe and his kids, yes, you know, playing the NHL together. But I don't think it's happened really anywhere else. No, I mean, don't don't quote me as that, but I'm i'd almost guarantee it maybe on a smaller level, never definitely nothing on a on a superstar all star level like this. But one thing's for sure. In order to get it done, he is probably gonna have to take a pay cut to go somewhere else
because just how salary caps work. Luckily he doesn't have to worry about bills, however, we do. So guys, we'll be right back. And we are back. So we're recording on February first, and we're gonna start. We'renna start doing something we should have been doing from the beginning and you
know, at the beginning of the month. Now we're gonna forego the movers and shakers, yes, segment, And what we're going to talk about is the excitement coming in the hobby over the next thirty days or in this case, twenty eight days. We're gonna talk about what's coming up on the release calendar. Yes, what do we get to open? What? Yeah? What what are we going to be ripping? You know what? Are we
going to watch the breakers go crazy over? What can we expect as far as monster hits being funneled through the back door in boxes to backyard breaks and all that kind of stuff. So we're taking a look at the February release calendar. Yes, and I want to bring up a couple of highlights. Things are things that are you know, staples and hobby things that are I'm really excited about now. I will say February is before we kicked off with
some of the names. February is really when, at least in my opinion, the hobby gear truly begins. January kind of ease into it. February it kind of kicks into gear. Yeah, that that is true, with the exception of a product that is releasing today and it's actually a great product. I love this product. Upperdext Synergy Hockey is coming out today. Nice. Well no, not really. It's twenty one, twenty two. Yes,
I know, Synergy. I know they are still still behind. I blows my mind that I know that they haven't been able to catch up or scrap something or I mean, you can't do anything in hockey at all right now outside of young guns, like you can't know. And that brings up, and that brings up a good point because Series one's been out for a while, for twenty two twenty three for that season, and guess what Series
two is coming out yea later this month. But yeah, we got twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two releases coming out in February at twenty three exactly something. Yeah, something sums a little off on that, So well, yeah, coming up, So today we actually have a cool Panini Zenith's coming out today. For football, we've got Synergy Hockey, and then we've got Tops Gilded Collection Baseball Yes, which it actually looks like a pretty fun product.
Yeah, it reminds me of the old school. Um the Diamond Anniversary Edition almost parallels. It's really cool. Yeah. Other things that I'm excited about next week, We've got Panini Immaculate UFC Yes coming out, which is always always a fun product. One that's coming out in the tenth which I am I'm curious to see what they're gonna wind up doing with it is twenty twenty three Leaf Floyd Money Mayweather Collection. Yeah. I love Floyd Mayweather.
The dude is I mean, aside from being an amazing boxer, the dude is just a character. So I'm curious to see if you know, he's done any you know, cool inscription autos or anything like that, you know, with some fun things that have come out of his mouth in the past. Yeah, so I'm I'm excited about that. One. Also got really cool stuff coming out, like obviously Bowman Chrome Draft Sapphire. But then you've got one of my favorites Tops Chrome ben Baller coming out again Ben Baller Edition.
I always love that set well at the end of the month, and this is this is something different. We've also got twenty twenty two Tops Chrome Sonic Baseball. Yes, and I believe that is only being released in a light format. I have not seen any any hobby variation on that, so I'm curious to see what's gonna what's gonna happen with that. We also have the second iteration of Bowman Chrome University Football. Yeah with logos. Okay, I was not aware of that, but yeah, there are logos on this
year. The mock ups that they have out of the Georgia players. Now, I don't know if every card and everything will but if you actually take a look, the mockups have logos. Yeah, I'm looking at will Anderson of Alabama. It's got the Alabama A right there on it. So these actually, yeah, Caleb Williams at USC, these do have logos and everything. Now, the jerseys, for some reason, some of them still seem to be airbrush. But no, looking at these right now, they look
amazing and they've done something really cool. I told you guys that this was going to be the first edition was going to be very basic and just dipping their foot in the water. Look at the increases that you've got here. You've also got the back end Time Bowman throwback inserts this year, you've got
Invicta. They've got the Invicta set this year, which well they do they did that, they did that last year too, right, But now they've got the Big Cahuna, which is one of the really big inserts, and then you've got the Rambling Autos which are some massive short prints, and you've also got a couple other new inserts. So they've really done a really good job with this. But now you've got logos. That is a huge difference for this product. That's good. That's gonna be a that's gonna be a
game changer for the product. But so yeah, that you know, last year's product they had the Golden Boy insert and the retro and then in hobby you had the Infecto. But now they're throwing in some initial inserts. I think, I think it's gonna be a really cool product. But the fifteenth is actually going to be a big day. So in addition to the bum Chrome University, you also have Leaf Metal Draft baseball. Yeah, you've got
uh, the always favorite Donres football. Yeah, hey, coming out staple of the hobby forever exactly, Peniniummaculate WWE, which should be a fun product. I've seen they've they showed some photos of wrestlers signing some of the cards. You know how cool Immaculate gets with the memorabilia for sports, with the shoes and things like that. Just wait till you see this WWE. It might not be the most valuable stuff in the world. Wait till you see
the cards. Oh yeah. Now upper Deck is releasing three products that day. You've got Series two Hockey, which we mentioned earlier. You've got Trilogy Hockey, yes, which is the twenty this is twenty twenty two, twenty three seasons. And then they're dating at twenty twenty two for some reason. But they're releasing upper Deck Flear Ultra Marvel Avengers, Yes, which I think
is actually going to be cool. And then the final one on the fifteenth that we absolutely have to talk about is a It's the big product from a baseball standpoint. Series one for twenty twenty three is coming out of Oh that's a national holiday for baseball collectors. It Series one release day is huge, and yeah, this year we've got something that's in at least to my knowledge, has never been done before. And I've got to commend Tops for doing
this. For those of you unaware, when Tops put out the mock ups for the Series one design, there were massive complaints on Twitter on social media about certain design elements of the card that they didn't like, just certain things that they thought could be improved. Well, for the first time, at least that I can remember, Tops and fanatics listen to them and actually tweaked the base design and changed really all of the stuff that were the major complaints.
They updated the right side to make sure the team name doesn't go under the player's secondary picture. The team logo has been made a little smaller, and the rookie card logo has been adjusted a little bit. It really does give it sounds like not too much and not really that big of a difference, but it actually looks beautiful. But it's very interesting to see a company
this late in the design process. The stuff's coming out on the fifteenth, and they made those changes, like now, Grant and I know they've had the change is done for a long time. They listen to them as soon as they put the mock ups out. But this is pretty cool to see,
ye, to see someone tweak a design based on customer feedback. Oh no, I I agree, um, And you know, props the tops for you know absolute, you know, going through and kind of doing that, all right, So I kind of want to go through the rest of the month and pick out some highlights here. So the seventeenth, we've got twenty twenty two, twenty three Don Ross basketball coming out. That's always a popular product. Twenty second, we've got twenty twenty two Bowman Inception baseball.
Phoenix football is coming out on the twenty second, as well as Prison Premier League soccer, which should be a fun product. We've got also Rookie and Stars football is coming out, and Goodwin Champions Yeah, it's coming out that day as well as Revolution Soccer. There's a lot of stuff on here that I was excited about, um, and then you know there's some other smaller products and things like that they're coming out. But there's something that I notice
that does not have a date yet. It is just kind of sitting in there as February twenty twenty three to be determined. This is a good one because we talked a little bit about Upper Deck and their delays and things like that. We made one of twenty one twenty two Synergy coming out in twenty twenty three. Well, at some point this month, Cup is going to be making its return. Yes, but this is from the wait wait, wait for it, the twenty twenty one season, and it has been delayed
almost every single time it's been put on the calendar. So I we were talking about over unders earlier, I think you have to put an over under on if this does get released in February. Well, I think since they have it as the TBD, I think that it probably will. This is not Yeah, it's one of those things. It's like, you know, we think they're delayed. I don't even remember was it was that Kapperzovs rookie
year. Like I'm trying to figure out like who the you know, who the Chase rookie right of that product, And hopefully they've been sitting on a lot of the stuff for a while. And I hope so, because if not, I'll tell you the next three years of Upper Deck stuff once they get to those products are gonna be absolutely amazing because you know, they do things differently as opposed to massive redemptions. They just issue the cards in random sets later on once the cards are done, and so well, but they
do they do do redemption right. But I'm saying for the most part, I mean, almost every set has, every big set has hundreds of cards from previous releases that people didn't even know we're gonna be on the checklist that ended up, yeah, finally becoming part of the checklist. So maybe these
delays make these next few years amazing. I don't know. Well, it's usually you know stuff, it's SP Authentic and SP Game US that usually have the yeah yeah, yeah, the updates for other sets from previous years. So that's possible. But they're just gonna put this out there. You're releasing a product from the twenty twenty to twenty twenty one season in February of twenty twenty three. Not only that, you're your highest N set. Yes,
But here's where I'm going with this. They're better not be a single redemption. Oh no, because two, you know, you're basically releasing it two years late. Yeah, and there's no excuse to not have those cards back and live in the product. There. I'm going to scream from the top of the rooftops. If I see redemptions coming out of that product, yes, no, no, no, one one redemption nite of that product,
and that's that's a massive, massive failed by a productive you. If you decide to not scrap the product and you're going to put it out this late, you better did it right. Yep. Absolutely, this should be Every autograph is live. Yes, there's no reason for a two year late product to come out with redemptions in them. Yeah, or any issues period like you know, missing cut autos, things like that, whatever it is. You know, get it right, guys, it's two years. But yeah,
February, man, absolutely, it's a stacked month. I mean, if you look at it, February really is a pretty stacked month. You've got a lot of great stuff. We mentioned a lot of it. There's also some really good online exclusives. I'm interested to see the tops Wander Franco sets. I like those Tops cross Player sets. I've taken in for a gemmant a lot of the autographs from previous sets, and I think they're really cool looking and I'm interested to see some of the some of the new sets.
I'm glad to see Zenith Football back. Zenis was something I grew up with, and so I'm actually really excited for Zenith because it looks a little a little updated obviously, but it does look like they kept some of the original feel to it and they do have some throwbacks, and so that was
a set that was very near and dear to me as a kid. Well, in the last couple of years, hasn't that Zenith has been part of Chronicles, right, Yes, they've had it's been part of a they've had just the bass cards and it's been a retail exclusive in hanger packs last year, I believe, and I don't know what it was the previous year, but it's been a short print subset where you get like four of those per pack, you know what I mean. And it was just the basic Zenith
brand. But now you're getting a full on, extended release, which I'm happy about. It might not, you know, command the most money in the entire world, but it's going to be a good load to mid end product. But it brings that nostalgia factor back for me. Yeah, you know. And if they utilize the old school foil and the beautiful foil and things that Zenith was known for they could have another massive hit on their hands.
I'm excited to see Zenith and a couple other really interesting products come out. But February definitely a stat month in the in the release date calendar. Yeah, I'm excited to see, you know, how some of these products do, and yeah, you know the stuff that comes out of them. So we'll have to keep an eye on that as the month goes along.
Absolutely well, guys, we will update you every single month, Like we said at the beginning of every month, we'll take a look at what's coming up, give you guys a give you guys a little breakdown and prepare you for what you can see on letter rip and what you can go to the stores and buy. And in February, it looks like you're gonna have quite a bit to choose from. Absolutely, And now that we're talking about February's
release calendar, that means January is done. Yeah. And for those of you the follow soccer, you realize that January, Hey, it's one of the two transfer windows throughout the year. Players can't move teams aside from during
two months out of the year. Right this month, there were some big moves that I want to touch on briefly, because these guys you're gonna want to keep an eye on from a hobby standpoint, because they have moved to bigger leagues or bigger teams or you know, they're getting They're gonna wind up with more exposure based on where they're at, and chasing down their stuff is probably going to be a smart move at this point. Oh yeah. The
biggest move so far or not so far. The biggest move in January was happening in the last couple of days of the month, and that was Enzo Fernandez. Argentinian national had an amazing World Cup this year. He was playing with Benfica, which I believe is a Portuguese Portuguese team. He made the move to Chelsea. Yeah, league, there's a bump that there's a big bump. Yeah. I am really excited to see what he does against Premier League competition. Me too. You know, Benfica has been a relative staple
team in the Champions League oh yeah, years. But you know, so he's gotten he's gotten play, you know, experience against top teams. But now he's moving over to the top league. Yeah, and it's gonna be it's gonna be a huge to see what he's able to do and if he's able to help Chelsea move up the table, because right now they're sitting outside of European competition and they need to help. Yeah, it's not a good
look for them. A couple other ones. Joel Felix got loaned from Athletico Madrid to Chelsea and his first game immediately got a red card and got suspended for three games. Yeah, yeah, Joel Felix has a ton of cards that are out there. Yeah. And don't get me wrong, the La Liga is probably the number two league in Europe as far as talent goes and competition. I don't see that big of a bump coming around for him, but they're worldwide. There is a lot more people following Chelsea than there are
following Athletico Madrid. And he's had he's always had that that collector base in the soccer market. Yes, guys, sorry to disappoint all you soccer haters. The market still existence doing great, huh. But he's always had a decent following in a decent amount of supporters that want to see him succeed.
Yeah. And so if he does and Chelsea does have that resurgence, I could see him, Like you said, it's not gonna it's not gonna five hundred percent and brock Purty overnight, but he's gonna he's gonna have, you know, a solid increase. Yeah, no, I would agree. And then the last one as far as Chelsea goes, is Mikhelo Mudrich who came over from Shock Tar Dunetsk and frankly, I'm surprised that team is still playing
right now because right in the middle of a fricking war zone. But he went over to Chelsea earlier in the month, played a couple of games already and he's been fairly solid. Cody Gackpo moving from PSB to Liverpool, we talked about that earlier in the month. I think, yeah, so he does not have a lot of cards out there, Nope, Once he does, I think it's going to be a huge thing. Georgino, that's a big This is a big thing. That's a pretty big move from Chelsea to
Arsenal. If they if Arsenal can hang on and win the Premier League, I think it's gonna be a you know, and Georgino plays well, I think that's gonna be a big bump for him. Two younger guys that you probably haven't heard of. Paul Unachum Scolling his name right, went from Genk to Southampton. Yeah, he's I can't remember if he's the twenty one year old or the twenty year old, but he's been a solid player. And
then also to Southampton. We've got Camaldeine Sulamana from Rennis to Southampton. He actually played a couple of games in the World Cup for Ghana and I believe that it's either it's one of the two of them have played nineteen games, scored sixteen goals with their respective teams and so far this season, I'm looking
for big things out of them. Now, those are two. Those are two of the guys that you're gonna be seeing most of the hype on and some of the big big when cards come out, when some of these upcoming sad or put out this year, a lot of those sets are going to be leaning on those two names. Well, but here's the thing, so, uh, Prism Premier League is coming out this month. Yeah, I
don't. I don't think any of these have been done, you know, I think all like none of the guys from the January transfer window, we're going to make it into that product. No, it's gonna take it's gonna be late in the year before. Yeah. Um, now you may see tops chrome Uefa. Yeah, they may be in there in time for that, especially with Enzo Fernandez. He'll be in there with ben you know, regardless, probably with Benfica. Yes, hopefully they can get an update in
time and get him a Chelsea kid. But there's another one. Actually, there's two more that I had on my list here. One of them is a wild weg Horsed moving to manu That should be a you know, that should be good from a say he had a great World Cup with the Netherlands. And here's the one. Here's the one that was so under the radar that I just wanted to throw out there. And there's a guy that we we should have been talking about for years and years and years, especially being
one of the few Americans playing in the top level. Weston McKinney moved from Juventus to Leeds. Yeah, and that's a big one because Juventus just got charged with the whole bunch of you know, potential financial crimes. They were doctriteing points in the you know, in the league. So they are no longer really in contention to be playing in the Champions League or the Europa League
or even the Europa Conference League next year. Yeah, you know, And granted I don't think Leads is either, but no, but this gives McKinney a chance to also shine. He could end up really shining there and having
the spotlight on him. I don't think people expect him to win championships, but he's gonna get the PT he's gonna get the starters, he's gonna get the opportunities, and he's gonna finally have that spotlight on him, and that could do wonders for someone like you said, in the soccer world, we should have been paying attention to and you would think we would have been talking
about for a couple years. No, exactly, even even with Leads being a mid to low table team, he's going to get a lot more exposure there than he was getting at Juventus. You know, we're moving to a team that gets a lot of TV time, that is playing in the top professional league in the world, you know, from basically the third you know, number three or number four professional league. I think I loved I'd love to see it, and I'm happy as hell for for Western McKinney. No,
me too. I'm I expect big things out of him. I hope so I got some awesome cards. I'd love for him to finally hit that potential too. But um now, I love Weston McKinney obviously US boys, so you know, hopefully everything works out for him. But way under the radar move that could provide some major hobby dividends. But guys, definitely take a listen to some of those names. I know some of maybe unfamiliar to
you, but I highly suggest doing some researches. Those are some moves right there that could really alter some teams and some players at least in terms of the hobby their value going forward. So very interesting into January and a very interesting transfer month, that's for sure. Ye all right, y'all, I think what do you think, Scott? Probably a good time to wrap up today's show. I think that's a good time to wrap up today's show, all right. Well, before we do go, guys, once again,
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