Heart of Horror #18: The Voices

That's the problem with you know, life and jobs and whatnot is occasionally that becomes a thing that you have to concentrate on and that's bullshit. You shouldn't have to. Yeah, I, you know, but we're like here in the States, we're coming off of the Thanksgiving break, which was Thanksgiving, was great, I got, you know like it's eating with the family and everybody cooks a lot of food and whatnot, so that all that's great. And, no, I did not watch any games. Okay, what else you got?

There were yams.

But if you dump some shit on top of a pumpkin pie, like some whipped cream, now, now we're in business. But that's just cause I like whipped cream, not because I like pumpkin pie. I mean anything and anyone. Uh huh, the first of many whipped cream on nipple references that you'll get this episode, um, speaking of uh, with, with whipped cream and white and ghostly, do we have a haunted dating story? I mean, look, I, I'm a professional, I take this right down down.

I know that may I mean not the worst segue I've ever done, but it's top 20 of the shitty ones.

Another part of this, though, is the my sister, or the sister of my ghost fiance, is gonna be at the wedding, and you know that she asked this woman. Oh. But, but you know it had to be a real like will you be the maid of honor at my ghost wedding? And they're just like, uh, yeah, sure, you just tell me when the date is. It would just be one of those churches where, like fully half of it's filled with you know people who buy a lot of crystals and then the other half is totally empty.

The other side. So a grifter by nature? Yeah, right it. Yeah, I mean, as soon as someone says, oh, I'm a spiritual counselor, then the first thing I think is like oh, so a scam artist or a cult leader, one of the two Speaking of? Alright, do we have more about the ghost lady dating here? Yeah, the only reason I'm trying to bail on this quickly is I mentioned cult leader and there is something that we have to discuss. Alright, have you seen the Twin Flames documentaries?

I didn't know it was gonna come up. This was like completely organic. But I know I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was gonna happen, but I should have thought about it because it is perfect for us. It is a cult of people who are trying to fall in love and it is fucking bananas. There are two of them. They're dueling documentaries of the way that happened with the fire festival. One of them is on Amazon, the other is on Netflix.

We certainly could I've watched both and I didn't mean to, but that's just how life happened Watch it and then we'll decide, because I don't want you to agree to that and then watch Right, watch the documentary. I don't want to be a part of this, but it is. I would recommend watching the Amazon one first and then watch the Netflix one, because I think the Amazon one is actually the better of the two in that it gives you more backstory on the craziness, and that's what you want out of this.

You want here is the crazy shit that the cult leader made the people in the cult do, and fortunately, as of right now, there are no fatalities Like this is not a Manson style cult, right as far as true crime shit goes. There are certainly victims, as are presented in the documentaries, but nobody's dead. They're just people who are deep in on the cult. Well, but I mean that's so.

Here's the thing is that the people who get involved in this it's totally understandable while they do so, but all the people that you're talking to in both of the documentaries are people who have gotten out of it, with very few exceptions, I think. So the thing that's fascinating about it is it's people who were deep in explaining, like here's how it caught me. This is what happened, like you know whether it's you know, my husband died, I got a divorce.

I've never really been in love, any of that stuff and here is a couple on YouTube telling you hey, if you do these things, you will absolutely meet your soulmate For sure. But it gets Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah and anyway, as you get into it, you'll just have to message me as you're watching this thing, because it's, but it's super good it is. Both of them are worth watching.

Amazon, like I said, I think is better if you're only going to watch one, but I highly recommend it as a. Oh my goodness, there is a cult in our midst and nobody has been reporting on this and all of a sudden now you can get a lot of information about this. Watch the Amazon one first and then follow up with an no, because it's different people that are being interviewed and you get a totally different spin on it, and one of them goes harder.

The Netflix one goes a little harder on the gender stuff, but I don't want to say anymore about that, because you need to get, yeah, like, watch the Amazon one, and if you feel like you need more information or just want to watch more of these weirdos, the Jeff and Shalia are the names of the two at the center. Okay, you've got a death name? Maybe so, but this is a J E F F. Jeff, oh no, but I feel that way about every name.

Amethyst realm is definitely not on the birth certificate, but yes, so there are cults in our midst and that's always exciting to know. Oh man, I love a good cult, especially if I'm not involved in it, most especially if I'm leading it. Yeah, I don't know what my premise is. I think it would. I think it would have to be built around Twin Peaks and that, like hey, I have. I have heard messages from the great beyond telling me that this is the touchstone of all spirituality. I don't know, I don't.

Yeah. I mean at this point like you know, we're hiring in all roles at this point, so I don't know, pick your job, what do you? What do you feel like doing? You want to be in charge of indoctrination? Be in charge of indoctrination. You want to keep everybody awake all the time you know, so that they start to really mentally break down. I mean, take that job. Whatever you want to do, however, you want to torture these people.

You are probably a gossipy bitch and I, oh yeah, I love a good mess at work, especially if it doesn't touch me personally, but I get to witness it and judge it.

But I guess that is part of the delusion you know that you're seeing, because you're seeing this movie through Ryan Reynolds's eyes and he's, you know, only schizophrenic break because he has stopped taking his medication, and that's one of the things that's really interesting about it. It's why it seems so tonally crazy, is, yeah, but so the the premise of the movie. We meet Ryan Reynolds, who is working at a factory, yeah, and he's kind of a quiet, keeps to himself, kind of guy.

Right, like neighbors yeah, no complaints for many of them. And then there is a woman at work that he's really into, play by Jim Arderton.

No, I've definitely seen Byzantium. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Like Jim Arderton, from what? The disappearance of Alice Creed? Is that what's called? Oh, it's so fucking good, yeah, and but she's great in it was one of her early roles, I think. Yeah, but from the first time I saw her on screen, I was like she is gorgeous. And how, how do I make her my, my own, my wife, right, I mean, that doesn't seem hardly fair. I can't compete with that.

Well, but he's accomplished and that's what he's got going, and isn't she with James Bond now? Oh boy, I'd say there you go. Jim Arderton, rachel, vice, carlo Gagino, all three of it.

By the way, the whole premise of this movie is that he's got a cat that, in a Scottish Brogue, is constantly telling him to do the worst possible shit, and a dog, an old hound, absolutely. And the old dog is you know, oh, brad Reynolds, you shouldn't do that, right? Yeah, it's really fun. It's funny Hear him kind of cutting loose, especially with the cat, which is very funny, yeah, and and so, yeah for sure.

And so he's, he's taking her home and at first she's a little withdrawn, but then she starts to come around and worth saying she's kind of mean, she's kind of a mean lady, what doesn't, oh for sure. And it seems to be not thrilled about being placed at this particular location, like she's from out of town and kind of sees everyone and everything as a little bit beneath her. Yeah, absolutely.

And. But so you know, as fate would have it, they're together in the Cabo Vistrock and it's it was at a deer, yeah, right, and so he has to kill this deer to put it out of its misery. And Jimmy order, right, yes, and Jim are ardent and, rightfully, is kind of freaked out by this and starts to kind of walk away and then he chases her down and kills her. Well, but that's alright. So that's one of the questions of the movie. Right Is like is it accidental?

I mean, because the cat is kind of asking him the cat sort of the evil part of his personality. But even the cat is like well, I mean, why did you have the knife in hand like that and why were you holding it like that if you did not plan killing her? Yeah, and you're right, because he's trying to be a good guy. He thinks he's a good guy and that's the irony of all of this is that he's trying to play himself off as like just a lovable guy next door.

But we see with his relationship with his therapist that she's like hey, you got to keep taking the pills, because when you don't take the pills, then the voices come back or you hear in the voices Not really, okay, good, right, and he keeps the trophy though Percerial killer tradition.

He, yeah it and kind of in that same sort of emotionally pathetic way and you can see through the flashbacks of you know his earlier life that things were not great and you know he's like, yeah, I mean, it's a very killers are made, not born, sort of thing that maybe you know the eternal question, right Of like, are you born bad or can you be born violent and crazy?

And yeah, and I think you can be, but I think more often than not, that's just like whether or not you have that killer gunpowder inside you. Then something has to light up for you, right, and that's oh no, we're both talking out our ass to some degree, but it's based largely on documentaries, we both saying Right.

There is a whole life I've led where I get to wear like trench coats more, and I've got a battered hat that I take with me everywhere, and people give me shit about it, but I keep wearing it anyway. And yeah, yeah, I promise that I'll never buy another pack of cigarettes, but I'm constantly bumming them off of other people and they're like why don't you just buy your own cigarettes? Because I quit and that's my gimmick.

Why wouldn't I take this medicine that makes everything okay again.

The scene where he says he's locked out of his house and she's like, oh, I can do this because you know I'm right, and she just starts, yeah, and while he's like trying to get in through a skylight or whatever a window, she's just like, oh, I'm going to open the door and go inside, and it's just a house of horrors.

Oh, I'm surprised that you have cats on account of there being a lack of poop spell. But there are those things that if I walk into somebody's house and I see certain things like that's one thing where I'm like oh, this is a, this is a big red flag. And but that's a different thing. There is, there is a difference between hey, it's, yeah, like some of it is just like oh, it's, it smells like your cat just took a shit, versus your entire place smells like your cat taking a shit.

You know what I mean. Like it's just in the carpet and drapes and yeah, like I. I. I say this from experience, because I dated somebody that had that kind of situation and I was like, can you not smell this? And right where she was like it just doesn't bother me, I guess, and I'm like it should. This is awful. I mean, right, this isn't about like hey, I'm trying to shame you as a pet owner or anything like that. But it right, it's just off, putting you know.

And but there, there, there are a handful of things like that, like that kind of odor. If you see somebody, that's just to your point, like you knew I was coming over and your place looks like this.

One of the kids in class just had a book open, was just tearing a page out of the back of it. Yeah, and I was like what are you doing? I don't think we're allowed to cane. But I definitely stopped in my tracks what I was doing and asked that question like what is this about? And they're just like I don't know. I'm like just it's. You know, if you don't want to read the book, that's fine. If you're bored in class, that's fine. Please do not destroy a book in this class, right?

The book didn't do anything to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. It stopped me in my tracks. We're not allowed to hit them.

But, man, it's getting to be the end of the year and a lot are, you know, the semester, and a lot of them are starting to realize like, oh shit, I'm going to fail, and so I like going back beans. I've just got a deluge of kids that are like, well, what if I do this? Well, can I pass? Then I'm like well, how about you turn in the work that you haven't turned in? That's 99% of every problem I have with kids. Is that, like my grades, terrible? Well, you didn't turn anything in.

What do you want me to do? Did you communicate any of this to your professor? Okay, yeah, that's all you need. Oh well, that's still fine.

Now, if I were really going to hurl things at the kids, I would just take a you know a sock full of AA batteries and like leave some marks, you know right, Something that like, yeah, when they're in their mid twenties and you know having that romantic moment where a partner is touching their forehead, studying their face, and it's like, hey, where did you get this little scar from? Oh, that's when I was a dipshit in my English teacher's class. Oh, really, Did you? Did you deserve it?

Were you asking for it? Since that day, I don't recall exactly what I did wrong and I can't see the color purple.

And then yeah, so right, and I mean he's just got a chorus of them now, and, and the thing that's real fucked up is when he's talking to these severed heads. They're like I am so happy now, I'm so glad we get to be together. You know it's, it's Right, right, right, right.

Yes, and it's, it's a great moment because she understands that her life is sort of in her own hands, where, if she takes the wrong step, things are going to go bad. Right, so she's, she's got to sort of play the part of I'm your therapist, I'm too invaluable and also I won't ever betray you, because that's the thing is now like to protect himself.

She knows what's up and sort of implies well, you're just going to be the next head in my fridge, you know and takes her back to his place, where we get some really disgusting shots of this is what his place looks like now.

Yes, and the police are closing in, and so it's, you know, the therapist getting away, the the place kind of going up in flames, and and Ryan Reynolds is Jerry, and so we're kind of making the decision I'm going to stay in this building, this you know old bowling alley that is now his apartment that he lives above, and we see the cat and the dog get away, though, which is nice, and yeah, and then the whole thing goes up in flame.

Brown Reynolds dies with it, and then we're treated to this like crazy dream sequence. I do, and I actually I do like this a lot because it's it's sort of implying that his mind is now free to kind of live in that world.

And, yeah, I mean you do want sort of a happy ending for him, because you do feel like he is a victim in as much as he never stood a chance to avoid this compulsion he has, and, as a result, though, people are dying and you're like I know that he killed people, but also, what if we just got him some help?

And, yeah, you know, let me ask you something speaking of workplace romance, since, all right, when you are involved with someone and they talk about a work wife or a work husband, do you find that to be a problem?

I was dating somebody at one point and they talked about the teacher across the hall from me that I'm close with or closer with her than anybody else that I work with, and but she's also right across the hall, like I see her all the time, we talk all the time, that kind of thing. And so the person I'm with is like so is that your work wife?

And I'm like no, that's not how I would characterize that relationship, but like we're friends and I think that like that's your work spouse situation I think is real. There's something about it that implies a, a like you're cheating on the person. You know what I mean.

I'm just thinking of it in modern terms of like having a plate of food while I'm yeah, which I've no people who did that. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah, no, that seems crazy.

So, um, I was working at a computer place at the time and there was a young woman that I worked with and we flirted back and forth and things seem to be going well, and I had two tickets to see George Carlin, back when he was all like yeah, and so I said hey, would you like to go see George Carlin with me? And she said I would love to. And I was like, cool, that means a couple of things.

Right, like she likes George Carlin, that's a good, good sign, right, and, and now we're, you know, going out. So all of this is coming up, oh, and we go to dinner Pretty decent sushi place ahead of the show and in the course of that conversation I realize, to paraphrase her, I think I know who George Carlin is. Oh, this could go bad. So we went to see the show and there's no opening act, as I recall.

Instead, just when it's time for the show to start, the announcer says hey, we just want to let you know about some merch that you're able to buy from the show tonight. There, I can't remember what the first thing was, but the second thing was a T shirt. Oh, the first thing I do remember it was a T shirt that had a thousand profane words or phrases on it, and the other the other one was a shirt that on the front says Simon says, and on the back it says go fuck yourself.

Yeah, so I'm. So I'm kind of laughing at that. I look over at my date and like she is as tight lipped and disappointed as a person can possibly be Right. And Carlin comes out on stage. The first thing he says is you know what people never talk about anymore Pussyfarts. And so I look at my date and I'm like, hey, how did? How did that hit you, cause I don't think it's going to get any any better or worse than that. And she is beside herself.

She just no, no, no, is not having a good time at all, and right, and so then it was like all right. Well, do I pretend that I am also offended the person who bought these tickets and invited her or do I just take her home because she's not having a good time? Or do I do the sensible thing and actually sit back and just enjoy seeing George Carlin in person? That's what I did. So it was just like, ah, fuck it, we're just going to enjoy the show. And it was very funny, it was a great show.

But on my way taking her back home, it was just the most uncomfortable car trip where, like, she was just frigid and, yes, she was not pleased.

He was like oh yeah, yeah, I fucked her Tuesday night. I was like I fucked her Monday night. Wait a second.

That's something that we've done a part and together, but it's something that we can really find common ground about. So, right, I learned it from you dad, it's, but but I do, I like I, I very much have that kind of relationship where, um, and it's cause I live alone, but it's like when I walk in the door, the first thing I see is my dog and he's excited to see me. And then we, we have pets and I take them for a walk and so, like a lot of my schedule revolves around the dog.

Like when I wake up, like oh, I got to take the dog out before I get ready myself, and that kind of that kind of thing. So it's like I have a very dog heavy life. But yeah, if somebody else lived here then I could give them some of the responsibility of the dog, which would be great if I wasn't the only person. Sure, that's fine, but just having somebody just take the dog out half the time would be yeah, um, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, all right.

But, but so far Michael, yeah, not, not terrible, Michael's okay.

So Biality, okay, all right, fair enough, all right, but but that is still tame compared to oh, let's talk about fucking on camera. Yeah, is that food? Is that a raffle? Can I have revels with caramel or pokers and billows and whatnot? Isn't that what it's called the ones you squeeze? Isn't that a billow? Oh, well. Kindling yeah, he's got kindling for that ass. Yeah, not as bad as the Australian route, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do you fancy a route is?

My understanding, at least, is that is an Australian proposition.

I mean, this is somebody that has. He's probably from Eastern Europe and his his, his last job was definitely working in one of those Eli Roth style hostels. Yeah, is he in a milking facility? I am in with hunker driving. I know where I'm going and this new man nowadays are weak and I'm going to run them all over. Yeah, yeah, that's. There are so much creepy there.

But the guy talking about like if you want to, if you want to, frig on camera or frig watching me on camera as I talk about my website, he is not worse, but is just a different kind of bad. So that like dog guy, I think, is like you're going to have to talk him off the ledge with the dog.

You're just going to have to, like, tell him, like it's weird that you're into your dog this much, and you're right, like, yeah, I'm not 100% there, but I understand that there are a lot of signs that if it did turn out that he was into bishiality, it would be like, oh, yeah, okay, well, I, yeah that there were. There were two ways to read it and I did it. I read it the way that I hoped it was true. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, and but that's why our detective business is going to work so well.

That's right, all right, I feel like that is the show. We have come to the end and we've done. We've done ghostly dating. We talked about dating at work some, and in rem jobs, more importantly, and then, right, wait, well, but look perfect, right, this is all good news. So, yeah, and the listening audience. But hey, so the plan is to be back on track so that we'll do another one of these next month for January, and January will have to. We'll have to do something winter related.

Yeah, something you know makes you want to cozy up with your loved one and get into some ferocious making out. It wasn't a very sexy episode because we were talking about serial killers. Yeah, yeah, I think. Yeah, next time, let's, let's we, yeah, we'll go harder on the sexy and yeah, next time it'll be, you know, asses up tits out. Yeah, no, perfect, all of this is exactly right.

So, out of curiosity, should people want to listen to more rim job stories Not necessarily yours, like I don't want to make it too exclusive.

Yeah, I, oh, my god, we had to put the kibosh on that show for a little while, but that's fine. You know, sunrise and sunset and all, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, it's yeah. But you know, the thing is obviously I can't just stop doing podcast stuff. So it's like, oh well, if that eight hours of week is not being spent doing podcast work.

What I should probably do more podcast work, just in a different way, and and that's kind of where we are is like, oh okay, I actually have have some free time that I can devote to dark parade pursuits in a way that I haven't been able to. So that's really exciting, and I do want to get into some interviews and stuff. That was something I wanted to do a while back, and then just you know time and circumstance and all, but I'm so excited for you guys. I can't wait to listen to that.