Duncan and Bo Come True Detective: Night Country – Part Six

So those reports of signing stuff are then maybe true.

Well, this is Ennis.

Nobody ever really leaves. Drop it, duncan. And.

Buck come correct. My er, my older brother, was talking about going to. He's never been to America and he quite fans. He'd go into New York in December for like Christmas and all the rest and I was like not this year. I was like if that was you, I'd avoid America for at least the next year, next year in a bit. I was like that post-election thing, whichever way it goes, there's gonna be fucking anarchist.

One way or the other. Yes, it isit's going to be a real mess, but, like you know I mean.

Here's the thing Is if, if the Democrats lose, there's gonna be a lot of like yeah, they will like, they will accept the loss It'll be protests in the streets and marches and that kind of shit.

But that's gonna be kind of the extent of it, yeah.

A precedent has been set, though, both Right, that you can just like take up arms and erm, you know, the worst that'll happen is that'll take two, maybe three years and you'll do a little bit of time that someone will get you off with.

So yeah, that sounds sexy. I like the sound of that. I know, always, always, always, sexy Erm. Sobut I speaking of stuff that Speaking ofof the sex, no erm. So I'm. This is my spring break. I'm off this week.

Woo Spring break.

Man, I was so fucking tired, I was like I was angry at the kids. Uh, when I left, With some reason, With somelike, it wasn't just like free-floating anger.

Yep, I do like the version where you get ready to go and just play the game and you know what your problem is. Man I was speaking of, you know what?

your problem is Steve.

You're a real shitting kid, steve.

But I mean kind of, there are some real shitty kids Ermuhlike. The reason I was angry was, uh, it was the day before spring break started and I was like, hey, we're just gonna play a game and I'll give you some bonus points. It was like awe were playing Balder Dash. Have you ever played that before? Where you Well.

I know what the term Balder Dash means.

It'sthere's also a variation that Jackbox uses called Fibbage. But it's basically. You're given a real word Yep, that is kind of kooky, right. And then you make up a definition for it and if you guess the right definition of the word you get a point.

And I like that reputation.

Andbut anyway. So sixth period was a bunch of assholes. And then my seventh period was a bunch of assholes too, and I discovered in between that one of the kids had completely ripped off the essay. He turned in from another class and it wasn't AI. God bless him. He didn't use AI, he just copied it from somebody else. The problem Good old-fashioned copy. I love it, yeah, but the problem was that class had an entirely different prompt for their essay.

My eldest is like too smart for her own good, like at the moment, and she knows she knows she's smart. So the the rebuttals at the moment are from someone that thinks that sometimes she is right, but she forgets that I control everything. So I told her more than one to pick your fight wisely. Yes, like, because like this, this right now, even if you get the moral high ground at the end of this, one iPad is gone. You're not chatting to your friend Like I have.

So yeah, yeah it. But you know, again, short sightedness is kind of part of the bag when you're talking about kids that like we'll just shoot them.

Time is nothing like turning your old, you know, I mean.

I have to remind myself every now and again, like you know, this is a 14th of their life. Yeah, I mean that's a lot and so. So I have to like, yeah, I have to check myself every now and again because you get so frustrated, because you're like you dumb shits, this is important because if you don't know this stuff. You're going to end up working a job that's not going to pay you anything. Yeah, and you're going to have to work twice as hard or half as much.

I tell you right now, one day, 15 years from now, you're going to be like I wish I'd just listened to that class at Mr Randall. Just follow these like that. You don't want to be a footnote in someone's kind of I wish I had have. Instead of yeah, yeah.

And you know, you talk to people like there's, there's a guy that works as a partner, that part of the maintenance staff at the school, and one of the things he says over and over again, like we talk about a lot about just how the kids are, like you know, they don't listen to shit because they know everything. And he's like I wish I could tell him. He was like man, I didn't grow up wanting to work at, you know, a high school maintenance job.

But you know again, mostly falls on deaf ears.

You try to you try to impart a little wisdom, but they're just like but I did, like I had a right up a kid that the asshole in six period told me that he didn't, he didn't care about me or the game. I could go fuck myself and I was like, all right, cool, yeah, I mean I don't, like I don't argue about him. Like okay, yeah, I don't argue about him, I don't argue about him. I mean, I don't like, I don't argue about him Like, okay, yeah, like I know where this goes and what this means is.

Yeah, that's literally what happens.

Yeah, so you know, keep it, keep it, the fuck up. That makes my life easier. But over so over spring break, I got to tell you another thing I did, yeah, so my dog, because you know I go off to school and I'm there for many hours and my dog has a little bit of separation anxiety. And I was talking to the vet about and the vet was like hey, there's, there's kind of two solutions for this. Well, really three.

One is you don't leave and that's not, you know, not feasible.

And the the second one is we give your dog a medication, basically dope him up during the day, and then comes and then right, and the problem isn't giant, it's just he likes to chew on pillows and shit like that. He gets anxious and chews on shit, but no cords or anything super valuable, Like every now and again. I got to replace a $20 Comforter but, but he was like, so we dope him up, or he was like but the downside of that is that he's not going to be able to get a good reason.

All of a sudden I quieted and you have an access.

Yeah, it is quite a struggle with your dog, I know. I have struggles too.

I brought them in this book. You may have read a bit.

But so anyway, the other solution was he was like you can try getting another dog, Cause he'll just keep him company. And he was like, honestly, you've got a dog and they're not them. Like having two is really not an exponential amount of work.

Yeah, it's really not like that, like once you understand the effort of one dog. It's not like kids, once you understand the effort of one dog. Two dogs is not that much more More food.

Slightly more expensive, but you know. So I've been auditioning dogs.

Like you just Next. Yeah, Like if you get, if you get an audition dog you need to watch yourself. If it comes in, carry in a burlap sack, you get out of there. I was thinking more. Chorus, live like just sitting in a theater, hello honey Right Next.

I just I don't, I don't like the emotion on the sleep Anyway, so, uh, so we've tried dog number one, and I wanted to do this while it was here for spring break. So I had a few days to kind of spend with the dog and I was like, yeah, cause it's not just Johnson, but there's the cat and you know, let's make sure that's not a nightmare and that it's not pissing, shitting all over the place and that.

is this.

I'm like I'm going to go back and I'm like okay, I'm going to go back and I'm like I'm going to go back and I'm like I'm going to go back and I'm like, okay, so Remy goes back, and then we're on dog number two now.

Hmm.

Dog number two is his is named cash Yep and so cash, it's cash.

It's cash. Tangled she's too. That's the flopping, the plans Did you go?

for plans. Yes, cause when I'm, when I'm thinking is as soon as I I like I go to check check out the dog. Yesterday and as soon as I see the name cause it like I went to a shelter and there were like three different dogs that look like they could be good fits and I wanted to introduce my dog to them and see how that goes. And um, so cash was dog number one. Johnson and cash get along pretty well, like they're kind of indifferent to one another, but it's like, okay, that's fine.

And I like.

So I'm thinking. Well, clearly, cash is not his real name. Yeah, the real name of the dog in my head is Mary and waggetty, and everyone calls him cash. I'm so glad you found it as funny as I did, Cause I was fucking delighted. Duncan, I'm glad you found it. I've caught myself because and he's been mostly really good, but the couple of times that you know he sniffed something and acted like he was going to pee on it or something.

I like how you increased the volume of saying that when you knew it was at his feet.

Yeah, yeah, that's right, buddy, you can go back anytime. I don't even have to have a good reason, I can just take him back, Um.

Oh dear.

I like it. Uh, I think I told you this, but a buddy of mine, uh, for my birthday got me that cover of national lamp. Not the cover, but the whole magazine the one with the dog on it. And literally it's hanging up in my bedroom and last night the dog is is in there and looks at that picture and I was like I don't. Obviously it's a dog and probably is not making any sort of association, but in my head it's another.

My, uh, my pug used to a ration, In fact still does it rationally bark. When black people were on the TV and I started a true story, I started Googling is my pug? And I put the, put the R and it all connected to racist. Sure, Um, like straight away, Um, and I haven't been able to work out why. But but then it did occur to me pugs come in two different colors, like that kind of fawny color or black.

But when he's moving around the room is it like little goose steps, Little corgi goose steps.

Yeah, he does. He does kind of like a poor comes up in front and then like that when he's walking.

Yeah, yes, I just a real Chris March, which you don't normally see in a pug. So, anyway, this is done. You're welcome, correct? We're talking about the finale, duncan, the final episode of true detective, season four. What is a? Lopez has visited upon us.

Yeah, like ours, I like to call it the episode that broke the Internet.

You know. So this is the lowest rated of all the episodes. If you look at IMTB, which seems fucking crazy to me, yeah it's the lowest rated in terms of like people rating online.

Yeah, it's the highest watched episode of true detective ever. Sure, yeah, like this, this, like, if you, if you want break it down, there's a lot of people confused as to why it's a Lopez has been given another season of true detective out with the fact that I think she nailed this, and you have to take into account that every single episode week on week collected 15% more viewers over its entire six episodes.

Well, and you know, for my money. I mean, obviously we're going to be getting deep, deep into this episode, but deep, deep. But you know it's a Lopez, I thought, pulled off a really neat trick, which is use all the stuff from the first season that people found fascinating and did the deep dives on. I do that part of it, but also do these like clever.

Yeah, there's one or two things that I thought were like clearly clumsy shoe horns from from the first season, specifically in this last episode where I was like right, okay, but I to me, if you, if you do, if you do a little bit of reading on it. And basically and I mentioned this in the first episode that we reviewed she went into HBO with a pitch for a TV show called Night Country and they said we'll love it. How about True Detective, night Country?

Yeah, and not understanding that the characters in this show are deeply flawed, like there's not a hero to be found. I mean, there is but it's not like they're not like we've got girl power, we can solve this. It's like they're doing it for their like the most human of reasons.

Yeah, this is, this is haunted them Like. This is like an actual physical haunting, as opposed to the kind of esoteric content that's in the show.

This is probably my second favorite season overall, nice. I really. I was talking to a friend at work about this, the finale in particular, and she kind of summed up, I think, how I felt about it, which was I enjoyed the finale so much it made me like the rest of the season even more.

It ties it all in yes, and it was not in a way where it ties it all in and not in a way where you're like, oh yeah, that was the guy that was cutting the lawn, like they do. I forget that every single time that you see him like really early on and he's a back, it's a Scooby Doo thing, you know what I mean? Like you see, like the lighthouse keeper right at the beginning, and then you see him at the end when he's unmasked, or the Jello thing.

We were asking the wrong questions, duncan we weren't in.

That was even the.

I was like oh, I know it was so good. It's all a sweet spot.

Fosster, by the way, is like hands down, fucking incredible in this episode, like she's given awards.

She's got a delivery and I've got. We'll talk about when we get to that point my notes. But there is one delivery that she has in this. That is maybe my favorite Jodie Foster delivery ever.

She is like just a crock like the whole, the whole arc of her character, not even just in the whole season. Just this episode is chef's kiss. Yeah, it is phenomenal. I was reading, I was reading the like. I've been reading uploads on this. People go that, you know, you know. And surprisingly, Jodie Foster I'm like she's got a fucking Oscar. I mean what we're doing here?

Don't call it a comeback. Like Jodie Foster has been legit. Have you ever seen a fucking panic room?

Like across the boat, like she does not phone it in. Yes, she's been in some shitty movies. I'm looking at you, elysium, like she's been in some shitty movies but she's never say. Like she always commits to the role and when you hear once again from the reading and all the rest, like Jodie Foster, like had specific views on how she wanted to play this character and one of them was she wanted to age the character.

No no no, no, yes, you have been doing this. You've been playing this game for 50 years now. Yeah, you know what the fuck you're doing. What do you think this character needs? Great, let's do that. Let's do that. You know and her instincts are right, like this is one. Her character is one of my favorite characters. I think it anything ever. I just I love. I love how flawed she is and how, yeah, I just love everything about it.

you'd be surprised what humans can overcome, or you'd be surprised what a person can live through, yeah, yeah. Like she is the embodiment of that as a character Like, and why she's saying it like preach.

And and. So we start like we'll, we'll, again, we'll, we'll get into this a minute, but you know we're just champing at the beat, yeah.

Like it's too difficult, not to it's too difficult not.

To.

You're going to ask me what my good is. I have not watched anything bad. My good is Jun two, which is like, hands down, a sci-fi masterpiece as fucking unreal Okay.

I second I think you said June two and I was like what was June?

No, june two is July, so that's what that's. It's June, squared I guess you're right. Yeah, doon to Denis Villeneuve, return on to close out the second half of the first book of June. And like, somehow, like proving, I think without a shadow of a doubt now, that he's the finest science fiction director of the last 50 years. This is, this is the murderers row. This guy has now been on is arrival Blade Runner 2049, june and June two. And like it's like, and this one is the most like, austin taste.

planning again Lito prime. No, that's the tradies. I can't. It's got a cool name and I can't remember the name.

Well then it go to anyway, and it's monochrome. Oh, it's just black and white. The whole thing shot black and white.

Oh, that's fucking crazy.

What a great idea.

So it's so like, the idea being that the the atmosphere filters out all kind of no idea.

You want to fucking explain it and I just sat there and, like my jaw was on the ground, got that right. This is like a like we're going to like once we step out into the sun. It's going to know the shot, using it, does x-ray something I can't remember.

Yeah, that's great. What a great idea that's. That's fucking cool.

I will tell you no more about it, but I will say this you will fucking love it.

I look, you know we've talked about doing before, but that much like zodiac, that is just a movie that I can throw on and I just wallow in. Yeah, and it's wonderful. I love all the nooks and crannies of it. It's just like now I just want to watch zodiac again.

I'll probably watch zodiac tonight. But I have nothing else I want to bring to the conversation to you as really kind of preoccupied. Pretty much all of my times in the watch now it's just been like this is yeah, yeah.

So my good is actually a book. Oh, I, just a while back I finished this, but I want to bring it up again because it's so fucking good. But, it's a book called Boys in the Valley by an author named Philip Frikasi, f R A C A S S I, who had never heard of before, never read anything by the guy before but this is one of my favorite horror novels I've read in some time and I usually I try to read about two a month, yeah, and anyway it's.

I did love them. There was a, there was an article it was towards the end of last year where they were saying that superhero movies were underperforming and they couldn't quite work out why. And I was like that because it's four movies a year, every year to the last almost 20 years, I mean audiences will eventually why is horror movie? Because it is different, is one and done for the most part Needless sequels is rising from the grave much like a zombie.

It's like slap like from the creators of the black phone all over it and like, oh, I like that movie. Let me go to this other movie, 100% like that. That's how you get me into the cinema, or even smile to where I'm like. You know what smile was? I really like smile. I had a great time with it. Don't need a sequel.

Yeah, one and done. Yeah, why do we need to? Why do we need something that will not be as good as the thing that we just have? Enough in there that make you remember why you enjoyed the first movie Also why you don't enjoy this one?

Well, fuck all that noise, duncan, let's get into. Let's get into detect. That's why we're here, that's what we're here for it and.

Longest ever episode of true detective, and I will say this and to when it comes to talking about this episode. Actually, I don't think we're going to be talking for nearly as long as we've talked about some of the other episodes, I agree. I agree Straight down to business, straight line storytelling.

So Very much. It does like there are. There are some things along the way that we'll definitely need to dig into you, but for the most part, this is like hey, we are getting answers to the to the questions that have been posed.

I hope you fall through the floor as what she says and then all of a sudden she falls through the floor and down she goes like through the floor and Danvers is like all right, are you OK? Listen, dr Lecter, I'm going to go get help, and no sooner does she just kind of lean over the edge of that, and then she's leading over there.

She's like are you alone down there?

Come back, you fucking bitch.

Yeah, that's what Navarro said. Why is this so feel so familiar? Wait, wait, do you have not vision goggles on.

Danvers is like two steps away from telling her how reckless she was, and then, all of a sudden, floor gives away with her as well and she goes face down.

Yeah she hits hard, gives it a real like when she hits, which I really like. And as soon as they realize like oh, she's OK, they see somebody fly by yeah, they think is Clark and they give chase and Duncan, wouldn't you know it we end up in like an underground ice lab. Yes, like fucking die another day. And there's a moment I think it's Navarro, who's like Danvers, look up, and they look up and they see the spiral shape made from fossils frozen into the ice above them. That's a cool visual.

They pick up what looks to be like a drill bit and the drill bit is cross shaped, star shaped or whatever it was, and they're like ah, they remind you anything. So they take photograph for evidence and, yeah, this this would appear to be, if you're, if you're piecing things together on the murder weapon, which means that anarchy died here and Navarro is pissed as soon as she realizes like, oh, this is probably the murder scene.

She is like stalking around, yeah, like fucking Darth Maul. And then the sees that there's, oh there's this kind of scoop marks by the shelf of samples and they pull that out and, sure enough, there's a letter that goes up that leads into Duncan, the Solol station.

So yeah. So how long were they in the caves? I mean, I must have been a while, because this whole ordeal lasts an entire day. The episode is pretty much an entire day, but they must have done something like, because one of the things that struck me about this one is when it's pointed out when fucking mad, crazy German, fucking what is he, yeah, when he was marking on the map like there was no point, they were like, look how close it is to Solol or anything like that at all.

Right, which, of course, jody Foster loves. I love this song.

Yeah, well, she knows exactly how to get into that cupboard this time, so she ain't fucking around the time. God damn, she's doing it and I'll put you. Listen here, ralph, you can fuck my wife. You can sit in a postmodernistic, bourgeois house, and one thing you can't do with her is one thing I want, and I watch my motherfucking television. Well, she literally opens this cupboard, grabs a fucking thing, tears it out and yeah, there is. Bueller has once again been discontinued.

There is a cutaway to Danvers house where Pete is just cleaning up and taking a shower to wash the blood off of him. The blood of his father. Yes, we will. Yes, we will come back to that, but just a quick point like oh, that's going on in the background of all this other stuff. Navarro is tracking these wet footprints that lead right into a wall and Danvers, meanwhile, is tracking down like she sees some door swinging. As you know, clark, is that you?

Yeah, I'm a federal agent, and hey, starling, did you forget to always check the blind spot?

always check the blind spot, because she doesn't check her blind spot and, as a result, she gets trained Well she gets locked in a room, like she goes into a room and part of the room is that they have like a freezer for all these ice cores that they, yeah, dug up, and she goes into that room and Clark shuts the door on her Right.

Instantly. What I thought when this happened is right. This is how the scientists died Like. You know what I mean. Like that's my brain went I was like all right, walking freezer, why did we not like, why is this not been a theory before? Like a blast freezer, like that totally makes sense. That's how they died, turns out. No, I was wrong on that one Look at that in one of the.

Oh fuck, I love the that whole scene but anyway. So Clark is now on the loose in the station. Danvers is locked up in this core sample room and Clark just goes full Jack Torrance with.

Well, that's it, this whole scene is like so fucking like. I love this a little bit. I really really do. I love the fact that she just on a bash a little bit of that they're shining. Let's tell it, let's just lean right into it Right.

So he brains Navarro with this fire extinguisher.

At Mancar others right yeah.

And then she wakes up while she's being dragged also from the show and what she does, but in a real nice change of pace. Yeah, navarro, like, bust out. She finds, like this iron rod in there and like and bust, bust out of the core sample room, gets out of this freezer and goes to find Navarro. Who is fucking this dude up and she has to stop it. She has to like call time. She's like don't kill him. Jesus Christ Navarro, come on, dr Lector.

Yeah, like, in this scenario, the person that you wanted to keep locked up in the blast freezer might be Navarro, like, and then maybe brain Jodie Foster you picked the wrong but like a fucking world champion boxing person this actress she is. She is on top of him. She is smacking the shit of her. But what I love about this is like Jodie Foster. Like Jodie Foster is not saving this guy.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We need to ask him questions. We're going to ask him questions. Also, before we get to asking him questions, let's leave him with the tortured hills on loop dude Like it's so fucked up, man. The details in this episode are just fucking incredible, yeah.

So I mean, let's just skip ahead to that and then we'll come back to Pete. But yeah, so they duct tape him to a chair and Navarro is like did you love Annie? And he's like yeah, I'd loved Annie. And she's like good.

And then sticks headphones in his ears and then duct tape, some yeah, and then plays her death video on loop, and then they put the tape over his mouth as well and switch the light off and then go to get a cup of coffee or something, or we're just going to leave him with that and leave him howling without a voice in the dark listening to the death cries of his love. It's just so fucking.

Yes, it is. It's raw. I really like it. Meanwhile, let's check back in with Pete, who's having a grand old time finding a tooth embedded in the wall.

Most likely his dad's.

Most likely his dad's from when he shot his father.

The closest that the molar is, the closest we get to the term more people in this episode, which once again shoots our theory out.

But yeah, there's no more people more people, but it's stuck in the morning.

It looks like this I'm kind of need to, and then all of a sudden fucking like in Nevada not in Nevada Danvers kid comes in.

Leah, yeah, it shows up and it's just like yeah, you know, is is Danvers around, like we had a fight, and he's like no, no, everything's cool here, just just cleaning up around the house. Yeah, make myself useful, no big deal.

He's standing awkwardly like Tom Sivir does and from the still dawn after being bitten yeah.

And Leah clocks it right away. She's like what is wrong with you? What's going on here? He's like, well, you know just everything going on with Kayla right now. And she's like, oh yeah, I guess that's cool. And then he's like you know what? In fact, can I just take you back there, cause the idea of them being alone on New Year's Eve kind of bumps me out. It would make me happy if, like you're not, like Danvers isn't here, she's off doing a work thing, why don't I take you back there?

That seems a new route. Let me just face it over. Like cause, as soon as she turns to walk out, he's like writer and grabbing the tooth. Go fuck him. He just fuck him up, steam.

Steam clams. You say, yes, sir, that's what you call hamburgers. Yep, Steamed hams, um, anyway. So yeah, like you said, there's a quick like yawink as he grabs this tooth, uh, off the wall, which is, like you said, it's just a really gnarly detail to include.

It's super gnarly detail, like you've just. You've just washed your father's blood off you. After, like, wrapping them up in plastic, like she's a lot of fucking parm, I'm putting her in the back of a vehicle to bury somewhere. I like you've just got through all that. You're like, and then you got to deal with this shit and just as you're getting ready to go dispose of your dance board, you turn around and he's fucking tooth's embedded in the wall.

We'll get to a discussion about this later that I dearly love Cause Navarro does not fuck around. She's just like he's fucked for life, isn't he?

Yeah.

Yeah, we'll talk about that, anyway. So, uh, so he does take Leah back to uh Kayla's place. She runs in and then out comes Kayla right away, cause she knows there's something up Right, and he's like, look, I, I know this is fucked up, but there's a thing that I've got to do.

And I can't tell you what's Danvers, what you're doing, and she's like Danvers didn't do anything. It's me, yeah, this is me.

Yeah, Um, and as he's telling her like, hey, once this is done, I'm with you a hundred percent, but I got to do this thing. And before he can even get it all out, like she kisses him and she's, she says uh, look, just come home. Yeah, when all this is over, just come home.

but this thing is fucking hellacious, Right.

Yeah, and they make the point like, hey, we can't go home, yeah, until this is over, yeah, and so, uh, they're as, they're stuck there and they're playing.

You know, the horrifying video for this dude in the tape to the chair Danvers is eating funyons, which remember we mentioned funyons right back in the first episode, with the delivery driver bringing it. So she's having funyons.

Um uh. Navarro, on the other hand, opens the fridge and out rolls an orange, and we learned that her mother loved oranges and there's kind of a significance to that. Yeah, and Danvers meanwhile sees this bit of glass on the floor and we get a split second flash to her, like walking along the pavement where there's a lot of broken glass. Yeah, just for a second. And then when we cut back to her, she's kind of picked it out of her shoe and it's thrown it.

What I love about this. Well, this is the theme of this entire season is the stories that we tell. Yes, and we've had this all the way through. I once got to read some people complaining about the fact that you know he's saying one thing, but the, you know the, the, the, the, the, playing kind of both sides here by showing you one version of the truth and his version of how he's like, the way he tells that is his story, as if they've not used this technique before in this season.

Like they literally have on on the wheeler case, yeah, or that it didn't begin with a made up quote about an unreliable narrator.

Yeah, at least all at a time as a flat circle, but, um, they've been all the way through it. But yeah, like the stories, the, the story that he tells is not what you as the audience see. So here is narration over actually what happened. What you find out, Bo, is kind of what we had pieced together. Once again, I love the fact that we kind of worked out a lot of this.

Yeah, I feel like we mostly got it right from way early on.

Like so much of the stuff we got earlier, and I think it's just because we are preconditioned to watch things and try to extract every nuance. Yeah, um, but yeah, ultimately what happened is the clip that we'd seen on the phone, right of her screaming, is a small segment of her death, and it was in that room. Below we find out that she was in a relationship with Clark. We already knew that.

Oh, Medicine man with.

Lorraine Brocco. Found the cure for the plague on the 20th century, I've lost it. Yeah, like, so, like he. Basically, he sees this and he grabs the first thing he can find, star-shaped chisel, starts stabbing her. She screams out. Clark hears this. Clark wakes up, runs through, runs down, sees her, tries to pull him off. He smacks her. Then apparently all the scientists come down and it's a real kind of well, let's just hold her down, let this guy finish it. And this is what we're seeing.

Right, well, because Clark is like clean air up, like, oh, this should never have happened.

Yeah.

She kind of wakes up and starts clawing at him, yeah For help, and he uses that same shirt or whatever he has, yeah To smother her.

Yeah, it does the old.

Yeah, yeah, speaking of Nicholson, he gives her the old cuckoo's nest.

Oh, 100%, yeah, Like he basically strangles her to death. So she died of asphyxiation and he's the guy that does it, but he doesn't tell them that and actually, right to the point that he dies, he's still claiming that he loved her and he didn't kill her. So once again, that's a detail that we now know that the detectives don't know.

And he's like oh, we never did that Right Right, Right, Like we did a lot of fucked up stuff, but we did. We did not take her tongue.

But the situation, the insinuation, is well.

He says they sent a cop to move the body. Maybe he did it as a warning to others. So the insinuation is hank did it. But like that doesn't really hold water, but neither does that.

That's what I kind of love about this episode.

Yeah.

Right there's. There's been a lot of confusion about the tongue Right and I was trying to find the best way to articulate this as something as to the symbolism behind the tongue Right, and the best I could get is a quote from and I took a screen grab of this because I was very proud of myself is a quote from famous Game of Thrones author, george RR Martin. He says that when you tear out a man's tongue, you're not proving him a liar, but only telling the world that you fear what he might say.

Yeah, that's how I took it. I hadn't read that, I'm just smart.

No, that's what it means and as a result, it holds no more symbolism in this than that. Yeah, cool effect. There's a kind of cool ghostly detail to put here, but she doesn't feel the need to answer that question at all, and you know what? I'm fine with that.

Yeah, I mean, if it is, you know, presumably the spirit of Annie Kay it is it is a way for her to speak, to say, like you are, you are on my case now.

Yeah.

Like you know when, when you are investigating the death of these men. But you can.

You can tie all this. Like you said before, no one the whole season is the unreliable narrator Like this could very well, when we find out who the killers are, they could have easily, like the tongue could have been cut out and put beside the body as a you know snitches get stitches, sort of thing, and they could have found the body, taken that and kept it as a. One day when we find, we will place, even though they will get to, even though the murderers claim that they don't know

You're right, yeah, I mean you're right. Like again, we can't be sure of this, yeah, but like it can be explained.

It can be explained. It just can't be explained by virtue of someone in the episode seeing. They did or didn't. Yes, but yeah, you could easily squirrel that way.

So so I like this moment very much as well, where Navarro says say again that you love Danny Kay and he's like I loved her. And as soon as he does, navarro pulls her gun and Danvers just turns around and is leaving.

Yeah.

Navarro is like aren't you going to try to stop me? And she's like nope.

No, you do what you got to do. I'm going to try to stop me this time. I think is what she says and she's like nope.

And so we do get that. We get some resolution on this of what happened in the Wheeler house, because Danvers leaves and we get the flashback again of the dude sitting in the chair whistling, twist and shout, and Navarro comes back without having shot so, Clark, worth pointing out and Danvers says you know, I was about to do it when you shot him, Wheeler, I mean.

Yeah.

And before she can do it, navarro, just like, pulls her gun and fires.

Yeah, reflex. It's like that is very, very, very quick.

And yeah, so we kind of wrap that up as far as we also get the detail, although it's not really explained.

We get the detail of a baby crying yeah, yeah, yeah. And once again I've read a few things where this upset a few people because it's not actually passed out and what I like. Once again, what I took away from this is them fabricating. The evidence is kind of twofold. One it's you know it's them covering the tracks and putting a guy who clearly wasn't fucking a nice dude, kind of putting a bow on that story.

Right, and their father like hey, you're. If the, if the story is your mother was abused and murdered and then your father killed himself because he could not live with it or whatever, yeah, Then that's probably a better story than hey, she committed suicide and then oops.

Yeah.

We got that a little wrong. We read the the room.

So, yeah, I like that's how I took that. Once again the Internet, the Internet, the Internet.

So so when we come back to Danvers, she's peeling an orange and a spiral just exactly the same way that Navarro's mom used to peel them. And the orange falls and we get a moment where we see like frost on the ground where the tongue was.

Yeah.

And in a very funny moment, danvers is like this this looks like a supernatural clue, dr Elector.

Yeah, what she like to me is all I've been screaming at my TV for about the past 10 minutes.

So that fucking ask him a bit more than the so, and so we do, and Clark says, like he'd been seeing Annie Kay and she and he knew that she was going to come for him. Yeah, and so when whatever happens, happens.

Yeah, you know, when the base, when he felt that presence and the power, went out, he licked it yes.

To the shaft with the hatch.

Yeah, and got on the other side of the hatch, so in the tunnel underneath and held on for dear life as he could hear the banging on top and these like the howling sounds and all the rest, all this commotion, and he claims that he is down there for days, which would track. I also love the fact that Danvers like suddenly puts it together Like this dude was here when we were here, like when we were, that he was all he was. He's been here the whole fucking time during this investigation.

He thinks the Vans for Ghost of Anarchy came and claimed them Right and tried to open the hatch, like he was holding the hatch closed and and had gone to look for Otis Heist to figure out how to survive. Annie and Danvers is like. Well, that doesn't make any sense, dr Lector, because you know he had quit long before that and the event that he survived was long before Annie was even born.

Yeah, and like I, don't know how much of that, though, like this is. This is like I think. Go and listen to an interview with Issa Lopez. She's a very, very, very playful person, right. She's a big personality, and part of me does feel like she watched that for season. She fucking loved that for season. She maybe spent I don't know five minutes checking YouTube videos and she just saw how much of a cultural phenomenon that is. It was like that. I'm going to fuck with it.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean kind of fine right, Like it's not my favourite line.

Yeah, it didn't upset me because they didn't handle it in the same way as it's handled in season one, like had they really went and like remember, like season one, like the time as a flat circle is all leading up to the fact that they end up hunting the wrong person, they end up killing the guy who is a murderer and is the meth cooker or whatever. You know that whole thing about the monster appearing and all the rest. That's where that comes from.

Yeah, I mean one. One false note in this episode is not going to throw me off. No, of course not, but you sure enough. Danvers leaves on that note and and Clark tells Navarro like go ahead and kill me or let me do it. Yeah, danvers meanwhile goes to lie down in one of the you know crew quarters or whatever and finds a crucifix in her hair. So supernatural shit afoot.

Yeah, for those not keeping count, the crucifix is the symbol of Navarro's mother, which has appeared several times in this season thus far in weird situations. But this to me, shows that it's kind of the supernatural element is now crossing over Like. So this is now, this is like we all at the moment. So far, most of the supernatural stuff, if not all of it, has happened to Navarro, and that's including the stuff that affects Danvers. So hold them communicating and all the rest.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, and we'll come back to this the whole question of the supernatural in this. But, there is a pretty good shot of Pete taking the bodies out to visit Rose as the street lights are going out, which is very cool.

It's just a great shot. Yeah, Rose, in this episode as well. I'm just like man.

she, like Rose, keeps it real, and that's what I like about her.

It's going to be one of those nights, isn't it? Yeah?

Oh, we'll get, we're almost there. So Danvers, meanwhile, wakes up from like this dream vision where she sees her, her boy Holden, and then here's some screen, mommy, and then she wakes up and the first thing we realize is like oh, she can see her breath here and the power is out in the station and the temperatures falling fast.

Yes.

And you know if, if, as soon as the fires go out, we're not going to survive. Maybe we shouldn't, but Danvers goes to find a bar.

I do see her breath, though, so she can't be the thing that's right.

Navarro on the other hand. But she goes to find a borrow and finds her outside, where Clark is now frozen and dead.

Yeah, he's what we like to call pulling a thorns.

Yeah, it is. And then you know some swing music plays and we see him in a picture.

He's always in the gold room in 1921, but I don't know if you knew that.

Yes, he's always been the caretaker in Salal.

Well, the thing is like she obviously she thinks Navarro forced him out to freeze to death. And this is where everything gets a little bit, a little bit esoteric, a little bit, a little bit spooky a little bit from the other side.

Well, yeah, I like that. The way she puts it is that first and brother fucker out. There is only witness. We have Dr Lector and Navarro is like I didn't do that to him. Yeah, like I didn't make him go out there. The that's how I found him and, by the way, I'm going to go find a backup generator because it's getting fucking cold.

Yeah.

And so she goes to work on the generator, which doesn't start. But we do get a good glimpse of Annie Kay All goously behind her. And then, upstairs, danvers is getting some ghosts of her own when this busted hub cap rolls by the doorway. She's looking, looking out.

Yeah.

And then we come back down to Navarro, who is now seeing the ghost of Clark that's doing the whole like shutter thing and says she's awake, which suggests that, oh, he is the kind of ghost that is just repeating what's happened in the past. So you know, of the three kinds of ghosts, we have the one that just repeats, yeah, which is Clark here.

One of those put two bodies on ace nates.

No, no, yeah. Rose has a line that I'm like what the fuck have you been up to, rose? Like, yeah, it's, she knows a little bit, but we'll get to this anyway. So Navarro and Danvers are now huddled around a fire, and it because there's no power in the place and they're just trying to stay alive until the storm lets up and they can get out of this place.

And then she goes to talk about her sister and, like Jody Foster, lays in hard that your sister was weak, she couldn't handle it. You're strong, you can handle it. You don't walk out on the ice. This is about to 180 pretty quick in this episode. Yeah, she will, she will, she will turn on that statement Pretty fast because she does say she's like that, you know, and she said it looks like you across the eyes, but something like that.

about Dr Lector and she's like well, hold on, Hold on.

He told me a message and she Danvers, goes fucking raw here. Dude, she gets like not mama bear.

She gets like fucking bile and she's like, yeah, shut up, you, shut your mouth, you keep his name out of your mouth. And she says and I wrote this down because it was such a good quote, it's what. This is the delivery that I love. This may be my favorite thing Jody Foster has ever said. The line is shut up about him or I'll shoot your sick fucking mouth right off your face. Fuck, she is angry. And then she says I am not merciful, I have no merciful and I have no mercy left. You understand?

She basically says to Navarro like if you want to walk out and they, she fucking go with that. Like, yeah, she bit the things are. She goes in, she puts things in, she puts things in, she puts things in, she puts things in, she puts things in and instantly is like that and she might do it. I'd like yeah, yeah, I'd like that's not maybe that I was angry, but that's maybe not the thing that someone who is contemplating suicide may want to hear.

So she goes outside to hunt for Navarro, who is, sure enough, walking out on the ice, but from Navarro's point of view, she's in the desert, yeah, and we get like the ear bleeding again. Which is just. She is in the presence of this. Whatever it is that's out there on the ice and the thing gives her her name, which is like Senna Ichkak something like that. Spare them while I hunt. So go for it.

Ice is going to break and it does actually, and she goes into the ice and fucking cinematography and this scene is fucking beautiful. It's like absolutely mind-blowingly good. But yeah, she goes under and, for all intents and purposes, dies and once again, according to Isolopes, that character dies in the ice but is brought back by Navarro, who doesn't walk out any further on the ice. She gets a fucking our native name and then she goes back and she helps Danvers and she gets her in.

I mean, it's a really Wonderful moment between these characters.

Yes, and I think it's the bit where I think Because what you're gonna get after this is an acceptance, where I think, danvers, all that, all that front that she's had about like no, did you spit it, gay tell you, and all that that kind of goes In this moment, and I think she respects that. Maybe there are things out there. Maybe death isn't the final, the final part of the story.

So well, I mean, she's just seen Holden, she's just seen her son, but sure enough, the storm is passing. Pete's still digging out on the ice this is fun.

This is like Rose, really. He's like he finished, you dig it. He's like right there, that should be enough. And I'm like roses, like what the fucking the knife he's looking at? She's like you may want to turn your head just now and he's like, no, I want to see. And she's like you want to see is that fucking puncture your dead? So long here, so he doesn't fucking float. And you see these, like Pete's face is like yeah, maybe I don't want it. Like he's like turns round yeah.

Right has has had to have done something because she knows how to do this quick and efficiently, and the fact that she knew how to do it at all, or that I never even thought yeah, she's, she's.

Like she knows that if they put that, there's another aspect to consider here like she knows, like the police know that, to be honest, fucking Pete should have known the ice is. The ice in the water is so cold, it's going to preserve the body, right, and when the ice thaws, that body is going to come up, and you don't want that, like you don't want that to happen. So naturally, you remove, you puncture the lungs and it removes all the air from the body and it makes your body float, sorry, sink.

I think that has something to do with Like Navarro telling Danvers you know like you get to carry Annie now you know it's that kind of thing like you're now responsible for.

I think, yeah, I think there's a finality to that that you have to do. It's like that. It's like in them, like mongo. The premise of late mongo, if you're looking at from a non-ghostly point of view, is the reason the mother so wholly believes that her kid might be communicating from beyond the dead is because she never saw the body. She never went to see the body, or her husband did so as a part of her. That because she never saw it. It was never realtor. So this idea of Pete needs to.

Yeah, where's this like? Oh, Let me let me make, let me just check you right now. Wait, she sits down. She says, yep, you're probably thinking the worst part's done, it's not. Yeah, what comes after forever? That's the worst part.

So there's a couple of ways to look at this. Right, the the easiest, most superficial way of looking at this is that he used to live with the fact that he killed his dad, right, and has like, not kill these dad, but hid hidden these dad and this case will never be solved, like the hangs bodies never gonna be found, I'll never be solved.

You've done the work to earn your, your ghostly visit from Hank, the ghost of murder past.

Yeah, lazy song of doom and gloom and God for boarding and paint your rooms blue.

But? But then they look up at the sky and the aurora borealis is is shining above them. I love this, like the storms over and it comes up right in the screen first of January, january 1st, 15th day of night, and, and, and then we go back to Salal where Navarro and Danvers are looking out the window and they see the storm has passed and like, hey, we can go now. Yeah, and there's a great moment where they Danvers is like, hey, happy, happy new year. Doctor of Lecter.

Yeah, homemade liminal and chemicals that like. I love Jody Foster and she's like she doesn't carefully spray on. She pours this motherfucker all over, right, and she's like get a UV light, right, yeah, she's not fucking around.

And then, sure enough, as you know you, you brought up the last episode. Three, right, one of the handprints is missing fingers. And that's where we get Foster saying we were asking the wrong question, doctor Lector, not who killed Annie Kaye, but who knows who killed her? Yeah, and and then, duncan, we go, we drive to the end of the episode.

Like this all. It makes so much that the introduction to this character Was she beating the shit out of this guy because he ladies hand, ladies hands on the woman with three fingers. So she, she fucking laid him out, and and then about.

She is just, she is a lady justice, she is being the show, she's the dark night ball Like well, and and she's also the one who said when, when they're asking about the selloz station, and she's like nobody ever talked to us, because nobody talks to the cleaners.

Yeah, she's also that. She's also the character when we're like does the symbol mean anything to you? She's like Blair, does this mean? She's been all the way through this series. She's been that they've spoken to more than once, will be down to see them more than once. He's packed, has appeared more than once. The evidence was there on the clothes, out in the ice, of someone with three fingers.

like, yeah, well, to get it, I mean at first is Jody Foster and then there's a roll out and yeah, go on, now we will pick her, and, but it's, it's Navarro who introduces.

Well, she, like I, asked before about what her name was and she didn't know and she says my name is Angeline, like Sinichcock.

Navarro, yeah, and the woman's like us, and it's cocked, that was my Aka's name. And Navarro says, well, do you know what it means? And Beatrice tells her well, it means the return of the Sun after the darkness. And then she kind of more readily, invites them in. It's like okay, now, now that we've established that, let's, let's have a seat, and well, so now that we've established that, let's tell you how everything went down.

Yeah right, and she.

She says, yeah, well, you know, here's the thing. I can tell a story. Yeah, but like now, whether this is how it happened, yeah, who's to say is one of the clue and right.

It could have happened this way, but maybe it happened like this.

And she says, you know, like hey, because of the way that native people are treated, it's the same story over and over again. And she says so we decided we were gonna, we were gonna tell her own story and this is our story goes, which is after spilling some mop water at the Solol station and seeing it go down this hatch, she goes down and discovers the weapon that killed Annie Kay. They also find these documents that were the documents that Annie Kay was looking for.

There's also proves that scientists don't learn from the mistakes. I'd be I don't know, I would have changed tools, I would have locked away that material, though, and, I don't know, maybe tiny duck my notes, I don't know done some things just so, just in cases never happens again we have to murder another woman. Maybe we I don't know maybe we put some steps in like I don't know, like a padlock on the latch and or something, but yeah, so they find it.

but I love this because there's a network of cleaners, and well in Danvers asked her like well, why didn't you report all this? And she says well, because nothing would have changed. Like we this? This is the story. We know is that we do this thing and nothing changes. So we told them, we told ourselves another story, yeah, and this is we get.

Yeah, we get like we got a cleaner actually in the police station. The police station cleaner. She's looking through the crime scene things. She's matching the wounds to the like to make sure they're right here and they're working it through. So, yeah, essentially the they set up everything. But while they're telling this story why she's telling this story More women start coming in, one at a time.

Until there's what like a dozen people in this room. Yeah, besides the cops.

Yeah, like because you're thinking it's a how could they overpower these seven guys? Well, it turns out. Well, if there's a dozen of you and you know where everything is in a facility, you can just walk in and switch the fucking power off.

Turn off the power, show up with some guns and they basically just heard them into the back of a truck, yeah, and.

Meanwhile, like they're trying, the, the trying, they see the main scientist trying to get in the hatch. So they know someone's in the hatch, which is how the handprints get the other basically trying to. You know, jimmy, the hatch up but they couldn't do it. So that explains the noise there. But they basically heard them into a fucking container, in a vehicle and drive them out into the middle of the snow.

And so they say well, so in this story, yes, you killed them. And she's like no, no, no, we didn't kill them, they killed themselves. When they killed her daughter in her home, yeah, they woke her up. What we did is we forced them into strip and then march them toward her, yeah, and like, put the spirals on their heads and shit like that.

So this is the. The the they they're talking about is the entity that Darwin drew at the beginning Sing. It's not Sengar, whatever it is, but basically the Entity that doesn't have any fingers bleeds from them, that is goddess of the sea and fishing, all the rest. And they'll like that. Like we marched them out there, their clothes were there. Yeah, like they wanted it. Any time they could have come back and put their clothes on, or she could claim them, and turns out she claimed them.

Yeah, and we write the way she puts it, because again, another great fucking line, because Danvers, I think, is the one who answers like so they didn't come back, why don't? Or why don't you think they came back? Then and she says well, I guess she ate their fucking dreams from the inside out and spit their frozen bones. But that's just a story. It's like oh man, that is one of the most metal things I've ever heard.

Yeah, there's a real pregnant pause of there's 12 women who have just told us a story about how they Can, what basically sent seven murderers to their death, and there's two of us and we're a little bit of number to you. What I love about this Danvers is so good man and like she's like she. She has the Ripley response to this. You know, like we'll just look it from orbit just to be sure. Like she's like that, while we just want to come here and tell you that the case is closed.

just this has been served in this story and they look so Danvers Gives up the like. Well, we just thought you'd be interested. Dr Lecter's and.

Like she gets ready, so she basically goes out. But, boy, if you're me, and Navarro in this case, like you're like that, so the tongue.

First. First, navarro says they, because they ask her like what do you think about this? And she says you know, stories are stories, that everybody's got them, that's fine. And but yeah, so Beatrice gives her like this, really like friendly Pat, like hey, you know, you're kind of one of us sort of thing, yeah, and but yes, that's where Navarro asked about the tongue and she's like I don't have any idea.

Yeah, did you put the tongue there so we'd like the cases or whatever, and she's like that? No, I think about. There's nothing about a tongue in our story.

Yeah and which, again, you know, this is the realm of the unreliable narrator, does she, does she not? Who knows? Yeah, but then we get Kind of our coda on this whole story, which takes place on March 12th, the first long day of the year. It's the first sunshine we've seen since the beginning of the first episode, which is yeah, and we get a very true detective trope.

That has not been all the way. In this one we get the interview of the police officer who attended the thing, which I kind of love. This I kind of love being in this Because also if you watch true detective like that season that everyone loves as well that show opens with the detective being interviewed, so I kind of love this. One closes with a detective being interviewed in sunshine and it's a is Danvers and she's being.

Yeah, like internal investigations or whatever.

Well, it's primarily they're trying to work out what happened with Otis Heiss and Hank Right and well, and she says well.

you know, based on all observations, it seems like it was a deal gone bad, dr Elector, where Hank must have gotten into a scrape and then he killed Otis and in the attempt to hide that body he disappeared.

because Hank is fucking useless Hank has been caught on camera following Danvers from the lighthouse fucking moron.

She says you know, well, you know, we'll find the bodies in this in the spring. We always do, yeah, unless we. And and then this is where Pete comes in bringing her coffee, yeah, and she's like well, as you know, this is his son. He was out looking for his father and we all feel, you know, pretty touched about that, dr Elector. And so then they then they ask her well, don't you think it's kind of strange that Clark died Exactly like all the others, kind of on your watch and she's like it is odd?

Yes, it is very strange, but you know some questions, just don't have answers.

dr Elector, yeah, and Then they're like all right, all right, fine, but what about Navarro? Yeah, and she's like, well, you know, some people come to Alaska to escape something and While she's telling them, you know the, you know getting the, the VO, why?

don't you tell them that lane we get while she's telling them her story?

Yes, the real story is she goes to Navarro's place, finds only this stuffed bear.

Yeah.

We cut over to Kovic, who finds the his toothbrush brought back to him. Yeah, and Danvers is like. You know, some people are looking for something and you know, I believe that Eventually Navarro found what she was looking for. And it's Navarro, like we get a cut to her, just staring off into the wilds of Alaska. Yeah and just starting off. But back at her house there is a phone that has a video confession from Clark saying here is the shit that we pulled along with Silver Sky Mines.

Yes, it was hunting the Carabou or whatever. It was right in the very opening scene. But this time he's walking past Just like an abandoned main. Yeah, the government closed this fucker down quick.

And and they're like so you've seen the? They're asking Danvers, these investigators, so you've seen the Clark video? And she's like, well, sure, who hasn't seen the Clark video? Doctor, lector? But no, who leaked it? I don't know, somebody did, but who knows? Yeah, and they're like, well, what are you gonna do next? And she says, look, this is in this. This, this town is. It was here before we got here. It was here before this place was even called Alaska. It's gonna be here after us.

What else?

is there doctor Lector?

And then we just ask the ask about could she explain how people claim that they still see Navarro from time to time, like kind of the insinuation being that she might live out on the ice? But that's not how I take this, because at the very end of this one we got a shot of her and Leah and who they've kind of grown together. Now they're eating sandwiches and laughing in the car and then we go to Danvers home at the end.

Well now first there's Pete, who is sleeping with his kid, but there's an expression on his face that says he is fucked for life.

Yeah, he's like. He's like. He now clocks and clocks out. You know what I mean. He ain't doing anything above what he needs to. He is no longer asking the right questions. He is doing the bare minimum for his job and holding on tightly to his family, holding on clinging to his son. And then we jump to Danvers at home, out on our balcony, and as she's sitting on our balcony, navarro appears as an apparition standing at the side, smiling at her.

The last lines of the whole season are when she says, when they ask her, like, do you think that people are seeing Navarro out there? And she says I believe that eventually, navarro is not out on that ice, but this is in us. Nobody ever really leaves Dr Lector, and that's where we get this moment of them on the deck. And so I'm of two minds about this. Here's what I truly believe is that, yes, this is an apparition that she sees, because and but not in an unfriendly way, like this is not.

Danvers said to her if you go out in the ice, come back. And I think that come back is not literally physically come back, and it's more spiritually don't leave.

Right. And so the other, the other, read that I've. I haven't read up on this, but it's just one of those things of like oh okay, I could see where this could be. On interpretation.

They say. They say on the show that people go out and live on the ice. We've already met three characters that lived in like compounds out there, so it is also totally believable that she lives a life off the fucking grid.

And we also know that. This is where my read of it gets a little strange. We also know that Navarro is bisexual.

Yes.

And so there is a read for me where, oh, this is just them ultimately ending up together as a couple.

Yeah.

Because there's no all right. So, duncan, here's the thing I fucking love about this episode is that could be true. It could be a spirit. We don't fully understand exactly what happened at the car accident with Jodie Foster and the kid. We just know that it's. It's haunted her Yep. Even though we got answers to the Wheeler thing, there's still. There are still questions about what. What that investigate or not investigation, but like what?

We never found out what the woman whose head was blown off in the war scene said to Navarro Navarro. What does she wish for? We don't get. And you know what, bro?

I don't think everything needs to be like 100%, 100% because you know, like it's what Danvers says, like not everything has a clean answer, and I like the fact that there's there's sort of this messiness of, yeah, apparently there is something supernatural out on the eyes.

At least this is how I know that, like true, like true detective fans, you know the hardcore ones just don't get horror right at all, because if you've seen Tigers are not afraid, there is a ton of like this. Is that actually a very Tigers is not afraid? Ending, it's that level of ambiguity of like yes spirituality and all the rest is wrapped up, then some things are just bigger than us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah and yeah, I just I really I really adored the ending of this. I thought it. I thought it was kind of heartfelt in a way that I almost didn't expect it to be as like poignant as it was, even though there's this her petty.

That's what she does, that's like, that's what I'm saying, like her previous work to this is Tigers are not afraid, which it was a movie that I was in cinema with grown men who were fucking crying. Yeah, that's how powerful she does it in the mute. The choice of score, the way it's set up, jody Foster's delivery of those lines at the very end, it's just, it's just there. And I think I come at the end of this and you didn't like this. I just don't think you like TV, if I'm honest.

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, Terrific season, as always, a great time. Um well, you know. As for what comes next, we'll figure it out. We got some peak panther. We got, we got uh, there's a whole season of slasher.

We haven't had to do slasher first, because the thought of going off and watching I don't know some inspector Cluso finding a bit of joy in my life and then having to sit down and do slasher is just like. It's a pain that I don't want. So we may have to. We may have to just rip the bandaid off, get right through fucking slasher and then get like some joy at the end of it. I don't know, I don't know.

We'll, we'll, we'll, figure it out though.

So, rather than later and we've got to be back though and hopefully the listeners out there have enjoyed our take and we are in a position now that we can very comfortably say that DBCC will be back and in our horizon future we have a new season of the terror that's been commissioned that we will cover, and a new season of true detective, which, by the way, we will also cover.

That, yes, exactly right. So, uh, I gotta tell you, uh, just tell me, no, no, no, no. I was just going to say, like uh, through, through sheer attrition, Uh, it turns out that, uh, the third episode, uh, is still the highest rated of this season so far. Um, but I I predict that the finale is going to be a banger.

Um, yeah, I predict to riot. I well look, let's see how the votes turn out, you know, what I'm saying Uh look, I look, I've got water.

I'm storing water now. That's where I am. That's why I got the second dog uh, just for protection, Although, based on everything I've seen so far, not not much protection. No, very, very. I'm about to have to give him a bath. That's, that's about to be the thing that happens. Uh, so, uh, yes, Duncan, where can people find more out of you between now and when next we talk here on DBCC?

Uh, you can find me on podcast under the stairs Tputscast.com, wherever you listen to the podcast under the stairs on YouTube. Uh, the next big thing from me will be a lot of talk and a lot of coverage in the next week and a half of Glasgow fright fest, where I will be taking in 11 horror movies and for some reason I did not notice this.

I was just thinking, this sounds very true.

detective One is investigating the series of gruesome deaths, the other is searching for some missing local children. Soon they realize that their cases are connected by an old folklore legend of a malevolent creature. The story of the soul eater is terrifying Incarnation of the soul eater from co-directors Julianne Moray and Alexandra Bastilleau who, as part of the Vanguard of French extreme similar, brought you inside Levite among the living in the deep house.

All of my favorites.

So yeah, so I'll feed back on that. So there you go.

All right, what about you, bo? What you got coming up soon? We are about to launch into some Asian horror on dark parade, a fairly obscure Kyoshi Kurosawa film called Sweet Home.

I've never seen. I will be super curious about that one because I love Kurosawa's work.

So the reason apparently it's getting a remaster and one of its claims to fame is that apparently the director of the video game Resident Evil said that it was the inspiration for that game. Oh, wow, so I'm curious to see it on a number of levels Thanks to that. So, yeah, so that's coming up, and then, you know, other dumb shit will just keeps going, more dumb stuff. Oh, I do hard of horror. We're going to do near dark. That's recording tomorrow.

Oh nice.

And talking, you know, because it's an excuse to come up with a theme, right, and so we're going to be talking about going on vacation with a loved one or potential loved one and how that's usually a terrible idea. So, yeah, so that's coming up and yeah, so you know, check that on on dark parade. In the meantime, duncan, the only thing left to do for this season of true detective is to say to my good friend Duncan say good night, duncan.

To my good friend Duncan say good night, duncan. Nice.