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THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL EPISODE 155 – TROLLHUNTER AND THE AUTOPSY OF JANE DOE

Jun 03, 20243 hr 8 min
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Episode 155 of THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL has arrived, and it’s a DIRECTOR SPECIAL!! We take a look at the eclectic career of Norwegian director André Øvredal, and his first two efforts, TROLLHUNTER (2010) and THE AUTOPSY OF JANE DOE (2016)!! Meanwhile, in WORLD OF THE STRANGE, we hear about some stories to SCARE YOU STIFF, and elsewhere there’s all the usual nonsense you’ve come to expect from us!! So tune in, download, listen, like, comment, and share!! LET’S ROCK AND TROLL!!!!

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The podcast on HONTED HILL will contain spoilers and swearing. Hello and welcome to the podcast on HONTED HILL EPISODE 155, keeping you alive. My name is Gav, I'm doing a little jive, my name is Dan. And other things that rhyme with five. Funny enough, I podcasted earlier as well and that intro started to kind of sing in this beginning of the podcast. I don't know why, whatever takes my bow. When we press record, never know what's going to happen. It's like flicking a switch, turn a me on.

What's going to happen? I'm always nervous and never know what you're going to say. We've got about 30 seconds so far and you haven't mentioned directions. It is a kid. You did, yeah. But no, no mention of course. There we go. Welcome, welcome everybody. Yeah, hope everyone's safe in the world. Everyone's happy, dandy, enjoying life. Nothing's getting you down too much. If it is, turn that frown upside down. That means do a handstand. And then you're done. And you're done.

Listen to us for the next few hours. We're going to talk some nonsense. Talk about a couple of cool films. Yeah, we're going to talk about dead bodies. We're going to talk about trolls. And lots of other weird and wonderful things. Not the internet ones. But not the internet trolls. I hate the internet trolls. Get a lot of them on the, as a superhero nerd fan. Anytime they mention, oh, there's a new Marvel film coming out of something.

You've got all these trolls going, oh, it'll be rubbish because it won't be. It won't be exactly like the comic book. It came out so fucking hell. No, it's not. No, it's a different book. It's an interpretation of it. Or, oh, this film's not going to be good because they've cast a woman in the lead route. Troll, fucking troll. But yes, it also grew into the trolls. It does always seem a bit like, well, you got nothing to do. You have to do. No, I've got too many myself, personally.

I don't have time to sit there. Oh, fucking you, fucking dickhead. Top, top. I don't have time. I don't care. I've got stuff to do. I'm, you know, so. I've gone through that wall and I actually know, don't get annoyed by it anymore. I just look at it and laugh. Yeah. I'm like, Michael Jackson popcorn meme now. I'm just like, ha, ha, ha, these fools. They live in their parents basement at 45 years old. But there's an easier one without if you're doing that.

We can't just sort of mock that nowadays because the way it is at the moment, everyone's struggling to, you know, afford to live. That's true. We are a bit delayed with the episode I got bloody COVID. Again. I don't know how. You love a little bit of COVID, but yeah. Well, she is after the last time I got it, but I got COVID again. Nobody else we've got COVID. Nobody, I came into contact with around me got COVID. I don't even know how I got COVID. So I'll twist my ankle on the skating.

And I could be doing much. I went serious. I spent most of the time with my leg on a bed just elevated, just sitting there because I couldn't do much because it hurt. And I got COVID. I did go out, but not for much. And I got COVID. And there's a lot of fucks like so. We couldn't record because I just kept coughing continuously in that portion. Didn't even know COVID is still around. It is apparently there's a new strain there. We say this every six months. There's a new strain now.

There's a new strain now. It's in the cold or the flu. It's always going to change because as soon as it goes into someone else, it's just going to change. I mean, we've definitely had my whole family have had it. Yeah. Well, once, you know, we confirmed it with the lateral flow tests. And I suspect we may even had it a second time, but we don't, we don't test, you know, who does anymore really? I mean, if you do more power to you, but it's not really, it's done now in my opinion.

Like you just said, it is just another cold and flu type thing that we're going to have to just deal with as a human race, really. It was, it was frustrating. It said like still will I isolate for five days, which I essentially did for about four days. And then I checked myself and I was fine. But it didn't even matter. I felt so shit. I didn't want to do anything anyways. I wasn't going to go out and hang out and go party in any way.

So I don't know if it's everybody differently, but it felt like it just felt like a really horrible, heavy cold. Yeah. Yeah. I did watch a shitload of films start getting a bit bored, actually. Yeah, I've watched quite a lot as well. Well, before we get into what we've been watching, let's just tell everybody who doesn't already know, because they've already clicked on this. That this is for this episode, we're doing another director's special. Yeah, we're doing a lot of these issues.

This is a dance idea for this year. Just check out just different directors, really. Yeah, because it's our 10th year, isn't it? Yeah, we do. We do occasionally do it, but we thought we'd try and fit as many as we can in this year. And it's cool sometimes to check out directors that haven't done as much or a bit newer to the game. And when I say newer, there's still been around for 10 or 15 years, you know.

And for example, today's episode, we will be talking about Andre O'Ridall, the Norwegian director, which some of you may have seen some or all of his films. And he's quite versatile, but that means we'll be covering the first sort of big film he did, which is the Found Footage Fantasy Comedy Horror Troll Hunter. I'm really interested in Found Footage film. Yeah, from 2010. And it's nice to talk about the Found Footage as well.

And we'll be also covering his follow up to that, which was the All Topsy of Jane Doe, which is a very different film both in the look style. It's the best thing that happens when someone makes it or something, and then someone actually backs them and hopefully doesn't interfere too much. I don't know how much of a studio film All Topsy Jane Doe is. It could just be an independent as well. I should really know this.

But just the access to more money, maybe like Brian Cox and like, do you not mean? And then just working at craft and art, which you've learnt with passion and everything, and pushing it to a high level and not being interfered with. Well, we'll get on to his filmography then as well. We'll be talking about him in a moment. Yeah, that's what we're doing.

We're doing a bit of Andre O'Ridall, we're talking Troll Hunter and the All Topsy of Jane Doe Doe, two very different films from the same guy and what Wade's not a career. But yes, Gav, you've been ill. My family's been a bit under the weather, but it's just what it is. We're here, we're recording. What have you been watching? You know what I could say is, interfered with like Jimmy Savall in a morgue, and that would actually connected with the All Topsy of Jane Doe, wouldn't it?

Could have slipped in some Jimmy Savall? Well, it's also going to be... Do you know what Jimmy Savall's slipping in anything in a morgue? Well, funny enough, Bill Murray will be helping us slip into a few things in the morgue later for the movie. Oh, really? So yeah, watch out. Thanks for having me. Alright guys, make sure you listen for that one. What have I been watching? Well, I was ill, so I kind of wanted cheering up. I did do too much horror. It's a bit of a bobs' whoon there.

Let me guess, you wanted to cheer yourself up. So you watched good old Serbian films. No, I didn't. I watched a great escape. So it's kind of random. I'm not going to go through all the intimate movies you watch so much, because we're horror podcasts. But a great escape, which was quite fun to kind of watch again. And I did a lot of buddy-cup movies. My favourite comedy buddy-cup movies, Chips. Fucking love that movie. If you haven't seen Chips, check it out. I don't know why.

I really like that film. Yeah, I mean, that and Baywatch both surprised me how much I'd liked both of those. I don't know why. Yeah, I thought Chips was going to be awful and end up being like, possibly one of my favourite up there comedy films. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's really good. It's weird though, it's quite an action film as well. It's quite a strange one. Yeah. I did that a few bits of bobs. Not too much horror. I didn't really feel like it so much.

But I did watch the other day, because Sarah and I are listening to podcast. We watched Snowtown. Have you ever seen that? It's the movie kind of about the Australian murderers. I feel like it has. I feel like it has. But bodies and barrels. No, I haven't. And it's just about those. Watch that. No, that was, that was alright. But not really too much. I watched Everest with a loiter. I did get to cinema yesterday.

Yeah, it's quite good because he did an Everest project at the moment for home-ed school. But I did yesterday. I did yesterday, managed to get to cinema with him. And we went to watch Roy's of a note, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. The Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Their names. And quite enjoyed it. Two hours, 40 minutes. It's a long one to take a nine-year-old. He was bouncer especially as he's pretty much has ADHD. Bouncing around a little bit. But he went to toilet, actually.

I did have to turn around to the person behind me. Or was it a second to last row? And there's no one else on our whole row. There's just one person behind me. I could hear their phone. It's like, so I lied to you into the toilet. And I turned around to him and said, Yo dude, turn your fucking phone down. It's what I said. And then I realised it was a woman for a start. And I thought it was a bloke. Not like that man. I still say that. But I said dude, I thought it was a dude.

Not a dude, not a dude. And they went, well, what could you hear? I'm reading. It's like just turn it down. I could hear it. Reading. Yeah, it's like, well, don't pay for a cinema ticket. I imagine it. I've been thinking about this. I kind of appreciate in some sense where you're wondering around hangin' out. It's probably one of the art students in the town not a living here. And they've got nothing to do. They don't know people. What they could do.

Oh, fuck yeah, I'm going to go to cinema and watch a movie. What's the plan? Yeah, let's go watch that. Not really probably seeing any of the other films or really caring. I'm not going to watch a movie. But when it comes down to just sitting in there looking at their phone, the hocks on. And not long after me turned them off, they left the cinema. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't feel good about that at all. Oh, no, I didn't. Anyway, the movie was all right. It wasn't too bad actually.

I kind of like this Planet of Yate movies now. Because I did obviously have my fear of Simmon Kiz. Yeah, so you don't like the monkey very much. But I'm all right with it now. And me and Elijah went through the whole of that series last year and they were planning to do a good plan. Yeah, they're good. They're good. Oh, and this new one was actually pretty good. I quite enjoyed it. Well, I'd like to do a monkey special with you at some point. I need to do monkey shines. I know that's one.

That's George and Marrow. Yeah, we could probably do monkey shines on the original Planet of the Apes, the Grand First original. Let's do that and talk about ape movies. Because there's a lot of them actually. Yeah, and all different random ape movies. Well, they can be quite scary. You know, monkey show up all the time. They want to be phenomenal, isn't there? Super strong. They're fucking scary. You're shit. Yeah. Don't fuck with monkeys, guys. Don't fuck with monkeys. Or apes, sorry.

Apes. I don't want to get the monkeys. Speaking of Nile animals on Friday, I was around someone's house filming them with the green screen stuff. But they've got a dog which is like an Excel bully, but it's not. But it's fucking massive. I don't, it's not a very fear. I'm just not bothered by dogs. So I say, who knows you boy? And it's just so scary. He was fond of me, kind of realised I was quite a fun thing. But even his tail whipping was sharp and hard like a proper whip. It was like, wow.

And yeah, Nile is fucking speaking of animals and what I could do to you. Wow. Nile. Nile. Nile. What have you been watching? I've treated myself. I've been blessed actually. I've watched some absolutely fantastic films in my last couple of weeks. Oh, good. What have you said? What, what, what? I caught up on a few that I've been wanting to watch for a long time. So I watched one from 2016. It's old now, but I've heard lots of good things about it. Christopher Lloyd is in it.

It's, I am not a serial killer. Oh, yeah. I think are you saying DVD but never just going to watch it? Are you going to get free from Friday fest? It was really good. It was good in that. It was about a kid who thinks he might be a serial killer and then he meets an old man who he suspects is also perhaps a serial killer for real. The old man being Christopher Lloyd. I won't spoil the ending because it's still eight years old. You've been some people might not have seen it. It's not old man.

It's not old man. It goes absolutely batshit crazy at the end. And I was just like, you would either go all in or you'd hate it. But I think I know a lot of people loved it. It was really, really good. Very strange as well. And it's kind of a bit sort of set. I guess it was set in the like mid early 90s, late 80s, but it didn't do that whole stranger things thing. It was just it was what it was, you know. And funny enough, in that he works here in his mum work in the local coroner's office.

So his mum is like the chief coroner and him and his mum get the bodies in and they take them apart for you know, until the cops what's happened just like all tops of Jane. So funny enough, it's a bit like that, which was just a coincidence. But yeah, I am not a serial killer. It was awesome. And I was like, wow, that I couldn't think that would be that good. Then I finally got on the bandwagon for the last of us.

I'm not saying that yet, no. Bill, I just haven't got around all the time to watching it. You've probably not played the game. I've not played the game. I've got to, but I'm not ready to play this. Our buddy RJ McCready, he is the biggest fan of that game ever. And he's been talking to me about the show. We can't wait for me to watch it. So I finally, I actually bought the show on prime because I got some Amazon vouchers from my birthday.

I bought the show because it was on sale or something for like £10 for the nine episodes. It was like about 12 hours worth of show. What's about those? Fucking hell, it was incredible. I cried almost every episode because I don't know that I think it did be better that I don't know the games. Yeah, I don't know. It's a bloke in a girl. That's kind of... Yeah, that's all I knew. But the emotion, it was everything that the walking dead wishes it was.

And also it was like, you can really see films like The Girl With All The Gifts has really ripped off the game. You know, and all that kind of stuff. 28 days later, I was glued to it and I bingeed it over about three or four nights. Absolutely loved it. Really violent, great effects. And Pedro Pascal is phenomenal in it. As are most of the people in it. But yeah, there was some good horror as well.

And I know that they've just started production on season two, so I'm really excited to watch that. But I just know everybody out there has seen this apart from you. But I had only just seen it myself. And it's just one of those ones. I just... I wanted to commit to it properly. Finally watched it. And it absolutely held up. I've been talking to RJ about it. You know, I was saying, like, fucking hell, this is so, so good. So good. Great acting and everything in it. Oh, I'm glad you like that.

Oh, I've checked it out. That was the thing. When I had COVID, I realized I had to lock myself away for a few days. No one could really come see me or couldn't see anybody. It was like, great. I can fucking just start binging and watching the latest stuff on and watch. But it just didn't feel like it. So it's kind of annoying. I've always done stuff like that. What else? What else? Well, two quite new films. One, well, one not so new.

But I consider it to be one of the best horror films I've seen in a couple of years. That's statement. The Black Phone. I did not expect this to be so good. Yeah, enjoyed it. Went to cinema with my eldest. It was, I'll say it's Daisy's favourite film. She got it on DVD. Plenty would love that movie. Obviously written by Stephen King's son, Joe Hill, and directed by Scott Derrickson.

And it felt like what would happen if Stephen King and like Shyamalan sort of had a baby, and that baby made a film because there was a bit of a Shyamalanness to it. It was supernatural, but not supernatural. It was a bit of a stranger thing, Z as well, but not. It had everything in it. I liked it was really brutal and a really satisfying payoff for the ending. Really good. I loved how everything tied in. And on top of all of that, Ethan Hawke was terrifying in it.

Fucking horrible. It's good Ethan Hawkeys. Yeah, I can do it. And the kid, the boy in it, Mason Thames, he is going to be big. That was his first role and he was amazing and he's going to be big. I think to make a part two at the moment. Oh really. Okay, we'll see how that goes, but I was blown away by it. I gave it 8 out of 10 and couldn't quite believe it. So again, I was watching all these films all in the same week. Like, I'm going to have to, something shit is going to come on soon.

And I ended up my week that week with another brand new movie, which everyone's talking about at the moment. I don't know if you've seen it, you might have done. I'm talking about it late night with the devil. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everyone, oh, you have seen it. So the cinema, didn't you? Yes. Yeah, yeah, I saw it on Shadow. I really enjoyed it. I did enjoy it. Yes, I really enjoyed it.

I wasn't quite everything I wanted because my critique, my criticism of it is that they, I wish they'd have kept it found footage rather than do the behind the scenes sort of bits. It felt a bit too forced. Like, it didn't fit in with the story. But I liked David Dastmalschian. I thought he was wonderful and amazing. Very well cast for that character. I feel like the ending of it. Now I was on the spoiler. That's the spoiler. No, I don't. I feel like doing a turn of dot. I was on a turn of dot.

I said, they're not so spotless minds show recently. And I talked about this on there. And they do something on their show where you do buy it, rent it, bin it. And I told, I said that I'd seen it, but it wasn't a buy it. It was a rent it. And I'll say the same thing here. The reason for that is I think a lot of the audience are going to come away from that. Not liking the ending. Yeah. And I thought I'd let into the back shit craziness of it. But it. I've just seen it before.

I've seen that film before. I've seen the extra cst. I've seen. The only one I've seen other fan footage stuff. And I'll probably go back to them more than I would go back to this. But it was still a very well made film. And it's nice to see some kind of fan footage in the mainstream. And I like the idea. I'm surprised to know once ever done something like that. Other than ghost. I've seen the film before. I've seen the extra cst. I've seen the other fan footage stuff.

I've seen the ones ever done something like that. Other than ghost watch, which we talked about, you know. Other than ghost watch, no one's ever really done something like that before. I just hope they don't make a sequel or something, you know. It's got to be its own. They won't. They won't. No, no, no. I'd watch this over the X's this day. I really liked that the slow build up with the like the. Just like the funny got aside and just just the whole thing.

I really enjoyed that aesthetic and the look of it. Yeah. I liked that. But you and I both like those late night American talk show type things as well. This did that so well. It felt so. It felt very comfortable. It felt very comfortable. It felt like what those talk shows are meant to do the make to make you feel quite comfortable. You kind of get to know them like they're your friends. Like a podcast. This is like guys who are long time listeners to us, probably now voices so well, find us.

Comforting and smooving to your ear holes. But, you know, and I think that's what those talk shows were always aimed at. Like giving you that sort of thing they come back. It's your old friend. Oh, we can sit around and tell you and watch out. It's a real big thing, isn't it? Especially in America. And I think it has that feel to it. So there's a comfort. So I think rewatching that would actually probably bring it better. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, I did enjoy it though. It just wasn't as for me.

It's one of those things where sometimes it happens to me where the height, you know, you worry. I know that. And I was worried actually you going in. It's just that you're like, oh, it's open, I'm talking to it. It had. But you've even said to me, do you know me? Well, it's really good. But don't, you know, don't go in. Going in and going in and going in. Yeah. It's just going to you're going to enjoy it. I know you.

Yeah. Yeah. One last thing I want to mention is well, and this is a shout out to one of our patrons, Don Colier. Now, Don is actually coming up to be our next patron. Well, not on next patron patron after next for the patron picks. And Don actually does his own show, which he's been doing for a couple of years, called Found Footage Horror Movies with Donnie Darko. You can find it on Spotify. So shout out to you, Donnie. I've listened to all the episodes.

There's maybe a dozen or so episodes on there. He'll be the first one to admit. He's not as regular as he likes. He's had stuff going on life like we all have. But. Always have it, Don. Always have it is your creative output when you're feeling inclined and you can get to it. Because there's no rules. That's the best thing. So as long as you can don't mind paying the monthly server or you've got your shows up for free somewhere, then it's not going to back matter to.

Just do because I have to tell this to my eldest who loves live streaming. And they sometimes get money and stuff from live streaming and things like that. Because loads of people watch them. But sometimes it's still what they're doing. It's like us then we don't podcast if we're not really feeling it because you don't get good performance. And nobody wants to hear that. So we've actually put episodes off before because we haven't felt correct mood to do it.

Even just that is a not an excuse either because we want to go to the best we can. So don't write on. Do it when you feel like you can do it. That's my advice for you. And don't worry if you've got an episode came out three years ago. It doesn't matter. Just another one. So cool. Could go back into another episode. Cool. I'm out again. It's no rush. No rules. Well, finally enough in the episode he just released.

He talks quite a lot about what he's sort of been dealing with and why there's been some gaps between shows. But he also talks about late night with the devil because obviously he covers exclusively phone footage movies generally. Sometimes he does like. Yeah. Sometimes he rounds up like what's been coming out of the year and stuff. But he did give us a shout out. So I wanted to return the favor. He gave us a shout out.

He said he was wearing his podcast on haunted hill T shirt and two people in the same day. I think he said asked him about it. Oh, yeah. Pretty cool. Works well with that promotion. Yeah, and he sent me really lovely email. Quite a long email just telling me quite a lot of stuff about, you know, his. What he's been journey's been on stuff. So I just wanted to give him a shout out.

Thank you so much. You know, I've replied to you obviously you would have seen and looking forward to hearing your pics. Take your time, my friend, as with everything, whether it's whether it's shows you're doing or telling me what you want us to cover for you. But yeah, pretty glad to hear from you and glad that your T shirt is getting people come over and talk to you as well. Because you can then also say, oh, I do a podcast too. We have to get ready. We have to get one.

It's where we have little one things that says pinch here. It's just when the nipples are on the T shirts. Ready to get. I don't know because people get arrested. Yeah, so if it's ladies or molested, but there we go. I just arrested. I just arrested. Melester development. You saw. Yeah, but we run girls. He's already been down. I think what if he's done something. Yeah, I just wanted to keep doing. Sorry, don't move at the end of that. Yeah, I appreciate that.

Very, very, very quickly to see this apology video. Yes, it was awful. No point in the girl in the corridor. Yeah, at no point did he actually say her name in the apology. He's like, well, who are you apologising to? You're doing it because you have to. And you don't want to. And you're looking at, he's looking at a script off side of the camera. I've watched the behavior panel. It's a really good YouTube channel. We should check it out people. It's where it's these four different people.

I've said about this. People before. And they just, they could do truth. They're like paid by the army to come in and like interrogate people. They can just tell from the way they do. Look at the corner and they're thinking all. And they were just going to town on them. Like this is the worst apology video ever. Yeah, yeah. Fuck him. Yeah. Like a PDD. Well, that's what we've been watching. Before we kick into our first film then, let's quickly talk just a very small line.

I've mentioned Jimmy Savo and PDD in this episode. I do apologise. Well, let's get the others out of your system. Rolf. Bill Cosby. Paul Faris Bill Cosby. Harvey Weinstein. Donald Trump. And anyone else that comes to mind? Donald Trump. George. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Anyway. Anyway. Well, he's not, but he is. Okay. Well, let's talk about Andre Overdure. He is our director that we are doing a director special for this episode. Now, the weird thing about him is, he's a very private man.

And there's barely anything online about this man. Oh, there's no online profile. No, he doesn't have a profile. It's not a bad thing to be honest with you. If I could get away with it, I would. But I have to work reasons. It's easier just to have it. I know, right? It's very cool, I think. So we can't talk too much about his background or how he got into film. I can tell you a few bits. I can tell you he's born in 1973. He's Norwegian. He's a director and screenwriter.

Obviously, he did Trollhunter and all the tops of Jane Doe, which really kicked his career off. That Trollhunter is still his biggest thing really because a lot of people haven't seen Jane Doe. Unless you're like a big horror fan, it's not like a mainstream film. Which is strange. That means it answers my question. And then independent rather than a studio film. If a studio film had been, you know, lighter to money on marketing, etc. Yeah.

And it was in the cinema, you know, but, you know, so all we can really do is talk about his career really, which is short but very strong. Because he, this first major film was obviously Trollhunter in 2010, which we're going to be discussing in detail in just a moment, which is a Norwegian language, a found footage horror film. It's basically like, if you like rare exports, then you'll probably like this.

It takes that kind of spin on a fantastic fairy tale type thing and puts a dark twist on it, doesn't it? It's very good. Obviously, all tops of Jane Doe, we won't talk about that now. I'm just going to be talking about that in detail later as well. It's just like it's first film. We're interested in title of a future murder. Yeah, I don't know what film. I think I don't think it's really hard to find. It's an Norwegian movie, I believe. It's kind of interesting. It's a really interesting name.

But you can see how his career went, because after Jane Doe, you know, he then got the chance to direct scary stories to tell in the dark, which is a big sort of jumping on that goose bumps bandwagon, turning a kid's books into a world. Do you like that film? I like some of it. Yeah, same as a film and look to it. I really quite dig. But yeah, it's not up there, eight out of ten or something. It's a six out of ten. I love the scarecrow bits. Yeah, that's a great look.

The weird thing about it is, some of the film is too scary for kids, in my opinion. And some of it is not... It's a mixed barrier now. Who's it for? Yeah, I saw it as cinema, but it was a day. It was actually when I was having mental health issues. A lot of five years going down. And I just didn't, wasn't feeling it, but I think that's the reason. What's it again, not that long ago, with one of my kids, quite enjoyed it, actually.

And he's in pre-production to direct the second part, by the way, right now. Yeah, that's right. Interesting. Was it more or two? I don't know that one. Yeah, Mortal is an action fantasy, so again, he's really trying lots of different... Well, it's quite good, though. A young man discovering he has good powers based on ancient Norse mythology. So he's keeping his roots. Oh, this is probably shot in original titles, Tordon. I reckon it's probably shot. It's on Plex. You watch it?

Oh, OK, interesting. And then after that... Yeah, after that, a movie I haven't seen. I have seen. And I watched it in Whitby where it's set, because it lands... Oh, Departs. No lands. Yeah, the last voyage of the Demitter. Which I quite enjoyed it. And that's an interesting career. That's his last thing at the moment, other than anything that's in production. So he went from a find footage, relatively small budgeted... Well, we went from future murder, this, whatever this feature film is.

Yeah, but he didn't do anything for 13 years after that. It takes a long time to get going sometimes. But then, but out of the blue, Trollhunter, which everybody was talking about when that came out in 2010. And that's because you're at the point of like found footage films. So many found footage films. At 2010, we look at around panel activities, because obviously bluish kicking it off. Grape and cane tours, all of these sort of.

And the sandwicher, like that, are stand out found footage films in the sub-genre of horror. But then Trollhunter came along, and then obviously that was kind of like... That dude whose first film was kind of found footage called Monsters. Yeah. Garaf Edwards. Yeah. And that's the same principle where it's done a found footage style film. But using good effect skills and chucking in big fucking monsters.

And he himself, he went up from the scale straight up into doing Star Wars, where the fuck he was doing. Yeah. Yeah, of course, quickly from Phelophage. And that's him showing his skills with effects and stuff. Obviously, our man here has it gone on to do like an effects heavy movie like a sci-fi type film. But doing a Trollhunter, but a found footage film comes out. Yeah, there's a found footage movie.

Okay. But if you've got like a thing, which is your USP, your unique selling point, that is big fucking trolls in it. And it still looks pretty good. The trolls look pretty decent. You know they're fake, obviously, but it's fine. And it's fine and it's got good characters in it. So, for a found footage film, I think it sticks out more than the others. Do you not mean the average found footage movie? For sure. It's got a budget to it. And then all topsy of Jane Doe is completely the opposite.

It's got two, three, four cast members, if that. You know, a love for all topsy of Jane Doe. Incredible movie. One of the scariest films I've seen in the last ten years or so. And I'm sort of showing my hand here. You know, I was intimidated the first time I watched it. Me too. And I've probably seen it four or five times now, which is, you know, a lot for a film that's only eight years old. Oh, what is it saying, building as dead people when I was watching it?

And what I would say about it is, for me, it's as good as which. Yeah. Ego's which. It's up there for me is a film that gets under my skin. It scares me every time I watch it. It's a spoiler alert. It is a witch movie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you don't know that. But we're going to get into it. And if you haven't seen the film, please stop this. Go watch the film. All topsy of Jane Doe, Traw Hunter. You don't have to do so much. So this point, though.

At this point, Hollywood have noticed him, you know, because all topsy of Jane Doe is rumbling under the surface. Obviously, Traw Hunter, people are talking about it. So they've said, well, let's give this Norwegian guy some money to make a big budget American film that people know from the books from their childhood. So he goes on to make scary stories to tell in the dark. You know, it did all right. A lot of people liked it, but I don't think a lot of horror fans liked it.

And then, yeah, he makes more tall. And then all of a sudden, the whole world was talking about the last voyage of the Demeter when it came out last year. And I haven't seen it yet. Well, it kind of had issues somewhere along the lines. It's a 45 million budget, and it grossed worldwide. 21 million. So it hasn't made its money. But the thing was, I think it was getting promoted a little bit by studios, but then all of a sudden there's like some issue. I don't think it played at many cinemas.

So it's like, well, you're not going to make your money back anyway. Yeah, it went to streaming really quickly, didn't it? It did. And I think it was a bit of an, and it just all of a sudden was kind of like, where's that movie? You know?

But what I like about this man, you know, from what I know, from what I've had the small things I've been doing, from what I know, from what I've had the small things I've read is, this is a guy that takes his, he really takes his time, takes his time with his projects. And he's only 51, and he's made a couple of bangers already. And I think, and he's four years old and means, made loads more than me. I think any, this is a guy that I'll watch.

You know, there's something about that finish and Norwegian beside of Europe that do these movies. You know, I mentioned Rarex Sports earlier, which is finished. And I don't know. There's something to be said. There's a little bit of a dark sense of humour. And they do horror very well. And yeah, I'm sorry that I haven't got much more to talk about with him, because he's a very private gentleman, which is absolutely his prerogative. And I think that's brilliant.

But what I can tell you is, he's made two very different horror films that we are going to be talking about in this episode. Because they're both very good in their own way. So yeah, that's it for me about Andro Ovidar. He's just, just Andre. It's cool. It's fun in the Fowlforge genre. There's a few movies out there where straight away you start watching them. You're like, oh, there's been money put into this Fowlforge. We're like, currently I am the deadbolt crew making another Fowlforge movie.

And it's zero budget. It's absolute zero budget. But that's why I love Fowlforge movies so much, because you can get all these different types of filmmakers that can come along and make one of these films. Obviously, the grays of them being good. Very. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of fun in that. You can have high budget. You can have high budget. And it doesn't matter. If you don't know what you're doing with Fowlforge, it can be shit. Because you can have someone's going, oh, a studio.

Oh, we're going to make a Fowlforge movie. Okay, we've got all this money. It's popular at the moment. It's good to find it. Let's do it. So the camera's got to do this. And so you don't know it. I know Fowlforge films. So I can't do it with literally no money. And it still come out as okay. It's not like massive trolls in there. And Don Coyle, he'll be with his show. He'll know about this as well. But I think Fowlforge was, it's gone past. It's on the down now. We hit the peak.

And sadly, it's just there. It's like someone moving. Or Frank is on films. I think sadly, the majority of what comes out now, Fowlforge, which is a bitch, is quite shit a lot of it. There was one that I heard someone talk about. I think Bow Ranzel was talking about one that was an hour long. And it was about a ring doorbell and what's been, what's seen through that. Yeah. And it's like, that could be good, but it also could be shit. But now and again, you get a gem, don't you like Trollhunter?

He did. No, with the devil, which is technically a famous footage film, you know. It falls out, okay. I do disagree with you saying that it'll shit. There is a... They're not all shit. I say it lately. The majority of them have been quite shit. Yeah. Because like the other day was ill, I bought, there's some more on my list for one, I watched it ages ago. There's a movie called Leaving DC, like Washington DC. And it's just over an hour long, a little bit over an hour long.

And it's just about a dude moving out to the middle of nowhere to get out of the city. And it's him doing his diary for the WhatsApp group, whatever, sort of thing. And it's pretty decent film. And it's pretty much just him. And he's never done any other film. It gets to the point when you watch it, you're like, is this guy just playing himself? I'm so... I don't know. He's not a very nice person in real life. It's weird though, because they've never made anything else his person.

And it's obviously bought a house at the middle of nowhere for I can make a movie there, because that's the location. But I don't know, we should check it out, actually. There's another one I want to check out called Deadstream, which is quite new. Yeah, it's not too bad. I could be quite annoying, but after what we get used to. I quite liked Unfrended. And there was another one that came out that was only an hour long during the pandemic. Most of the hosts, or something like that.

That was really good. Most of the hosts got back. Yeah. So what I'm saying is, I'm not saying all of Frended butchership, just to clarify, I'm saying the majority of it in the last few years has been very shit. But you do get Jim's occasion. The raw Jim's. I'm in a lot of Frended butchers groups. I'm actually got the figure on the pulse a little bit, because I like to keep up on what's going on. And I'm always promoting pre-tunational. And Dom, did you check that out, Bod?

It's the Frended footage film we made before. Dan's got a really big beard in it. I have. And actually, you know, as a filmmaker yourself, and I think a lot of filmmakers, you can't not love Fend Footage because it's such a thing to make films. It's way more important to make films. Yeah, as long as you do it right. But I think it can be done very late. People can be so lazy with it, can't they? If you're doing it for the fact that you want to make horror movie, it's not the way to do it.

But a four-film maker, I was chatting to Ben, who's a director of photography for their both films, explaining to him how nice it is and freeing it is, because you're just filming whatever. You haven't really tested which way the camera's going to swing around. You don't know. And when you come back to edit, you're watching back all your rushes. And at one point, the camera does something which you didn't plan. And he goes, that's brilliant. Chop that, chop that, keep that rest of your shit.

And then you start putting it together like Lego. And you're like, man, that's so good. But you couldn't have planned the way the camera does it. Because that's how free and found footage films are. So for a filmmaker, I love it. Yeah, totally. And it's really interesting that he, Andreavod, I went from technically a fine footage film to this. So, very exciting. Keep watching his career. Shall we have a show? Yeah. Let's hand some trolls. Well, it's because I do apologize.

The train is probably going to be in Norwegian. Well, listen, you've got to pay the troll toll to get into this... E-D-Hole. You've got to pay the troll toll. Get into this boyshole. Another reference to it. It's always something for that. You're saying boyshole or boyshole. Boyshole! Get into this boyshole! Incredible stuff, incredible stuff. Whenever I think of trolls, that is just what I think of. The other day, I did it again.

I started season one and I've started going for it and I'm going to look season four now. The earlier ones, there's got so many gags going on in just one episode. Do you know what I mean? There's a lot of energy in the early ones. Very funny. Anyway. Indeed. Well, let's go hunt some trolls. Here's a trailer for the troll, that's her. Here we go. Thomas! Thomas! Thomas! Thomas! No! Romeo!! No! Oh Okay, so troll hunter from 2010.

A group of students investigates a series of mysterious bear killings, but learns that there are much more dangerous things going on. They start to follow a mysterious hunter and learn that he's actually a troll hunter. Does troll hunter the name does actually put across like a really bad sub video channel on Paul and hub? I've got to admit. Oh God. Doesn't it? Like bang bus. That's all the thing. I'm not going to look in for. That's not good though.

Well this is written and directed by Andro, Rachel. And if you like rare exports, I've said it before. If you like that kind of thing, you're going to like this because this takes the myths of trolls doing under bridges and smelling the blood of a Christian man and all that kind of stuff. Which is quite cool. I've got trolls under bridges in this. As a kid, there's that story, isn't there? As an airship of the troll in a bridge and shit. Billy goes gruff. Billy goes gruff.

And they go, they go, it's in this one on the bridge as well. You know, they do. Well, it's very clever. It's stuff like that. Now this movie came to fruition to light because of something the Norwegian President or Prime Minister said in a random interview. He was asked and they show it at the end of this movie. He was asked in a film about power lines and why they're going to do about the problem with power lines because in Norway, they take the environment very seriously.

And he said, yes, there are too many power lines, but we do need them here because we have a troll problem in Norway. And his assistant looked over at him and I, what the hell? And he was kind of, it was in the news for a while that he'd said it and then it went away. But Andre overdo, obviously, thought, hmm, and his brain started to go in and he wrote troll hunter. That's brilliant. And they show that clip at the end of this film.

So you get to see that little clip of him saying that and it feels like fake, but he did actually say it in a real press conference. So it's so laugh here. It's just so weird. It'd be like, I don't know, it'd be like, I don't know, Trump saying or whoever, you know, someone's in power saying something really random. Like, yeah, well, there's a Sasquatch problem. So I do like the fact that this film is just from the name. It's a fun film. Yeah. Trump's on.

Trolls aren't like, we don't really have many examples to be honest with you. It's not friendly, cruel hunter or the pitiful hunter. Jesus Christ. I've looked that been awful moving. I never want to say it. But troll hunter, it kind of makes it kind of fun. I used to have trolls, little ones, a long hair. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, trolls are fun. So it kind of makes it like you're going into a bit of a tongue in cheekness to it, I feel.

And it gives them a backstory because there's different types of trolls that have different, not powers, but different abilities and some of them eat rocks and some of them live in the forest, some of them live under bridges. And have a flash of light in the turn of stone. That is good. Yeah. And we're squirting the guy. So do watch it a few times. It looks great on camera as well.

And like you said earlier, the trolls themselves look good, you know, you forget just how much you see of the trolls, you know, you think, are you just going to see little glimpse? And they are falling on trolls. And you got a member with foul footage movie. One of you got a member if you're doing effects, it's a lot easier. It is quite easy.

Now AI, if I can help you do a fixed ados, I'm using AI slight little bits here and there to help you like detect movement of body and do not mean like that. It's really good now. But you got a member with foul footage, the camera is constantly moving. You're not like a static locked off tripod type shot where if you're applying effects to a static locked off shot, it's easier to cheaply quicker. You get done with the camera moving. And it's a whole new ball game.

You're going against as the camera moves left, you got to make sure that trolls move in right. It's the whole what you not mean. And you can get away with blur and stuff like that. And it looks good. It looks good. It looks good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. And you've got to admit sometimes it affects. Yeah, sometimes films you effects you watching me like, oh, that's why sometimes, yeah. Brain deads and stuff like that looks so good still because they're not digital effects.

They were on screen. I think the ingredients that make this work are, it's fun, like you just said, it's original. It's also foul footage makes it. Well, I think foul footage is a good choice. Yeah, it works because of that. It's great acting in it, especially from the troll hunter himself, but some of the cast aren't, they're not annoying or anything like that, you know, it's good acting in it. And on top of that, they're shooting it in Norway, which is fucking beautiful.

You've got these incredible landscapes and forests and mountains and lots of long roads to drive along and get these great shots. You can just drive along and do all of this. If you live in Norway, you know, it's harder to do that in the UK, you know, there's always going to be a fucking bus going by or something, but yeah, so all of those ingredients I think, and then Andre over there is obviously the director and the bright. So he had the vision.

He knew what he wanted and a writer director is always a great, a great thing, isn't that, you know? Yeah. And I think any foul footage shows was thinking about it, like which production values are a bit more than your average foul footage film. I think every time that that happens, at some point in pre-production a producer has come to them and said, why foul footage? We could just make it traditional. And I say that he's gone, said, no, this works for this film.

I think he's gone, this is going to work for it. We could traditionally just film it like always great shots and troll. But it works so much more fun with this. It makes you feel more like in the zone as well, in there with them. Yeah, because you do have to suspend your disbelief because of course we're talking trolls, you know, and we're talking, you know, the government are involved. I know that kind of stuff, which is fine.

We've seen conspiracy movies before, you know, with aliens or bigfooters who haven't been covered up. But, you know, the documentary crew go along with it and they're just, you don't really know what they think they're going to get out of it other than up close and personal. They all think they're going to get rich, I guess, if they're allowed to show this to the world, there are trolls. Yeah, and no to royalty, I think.

But at the end of the day, you're just along for the ride and it's a fun ride to go on really. Yeah, I'm going to, I think you could be shorter. Yeah, I don't even know what level it is. What level is it? It is one hour and 43 minutes, so it is a long one. Yeah, I think 90 minutes would have been fun. I'm going to shout to a large, I think. I think you would appreciate it for the monsters, because you know, he's always making them out of clay and he loves it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, totally, totally.

All right, well, let's get hunting. So we start off as we do with a lot of these blow-witch and all this kind of stuff where we get a bit of text telling us, you know, a crew, a documentary crew was going hunting, um, for a bad killer, um, they were going to go in there and see what was going on, because some bears are being killed illegally in Norway and they wanted to know what was more about it, but they came across something that they weren't expecting.

The following footage, you know, reveals what they found. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Well, it was great. It's funny, because at the right in the middle of what we're making at the moment, it now starts up with, maybe it's not been found, but what is this or something? Unfortunately, you have to, there's some things you can't get away if you've got to make your reasons for the why the camera's there. That's one raw found footage. What is the camera there?

And with this one, it's good, because it's like research. It works well. Whoa, I can't hear you. Sorry about that. What has that done? I'm muted by mistake. I'm too, the troll got me. Um, so like we said, Norway takes its environment and its nature very seriously. So these guys, basically, they're there from a local university, I guess, and they're there to try to record what's happening with bears in Norway.

They think there's a poach who are going around killing these bears, because there's only, you know, a dozen or so officially licensed bear hunters in Norway. They don't kill them very often, only if they get too close to a town and stuff like that. So they go, we start off with them sort of chatting to these guys, and all of them are saying, well, there's a poacher, you know, this shouldn't be allowed. We're very angry with this, whoever this is killing these bears.

We think it's this random guy that we've seen rolling around in a dirt-yled trailer van. He's a really strange guy. Have you seen a lost coast tapes? Yes, I have. That's a good found footage. It kind of reminds me of this setup. You got a free of them, and they go and they find this seasoned veteran who lives out in the middle of nowhere, or whatever, and he's like a sort of John Rambo almost like, and they're like, we're going to follow you. Okay. Very much like that.

Yeah, because this guy is a bit of a Rambo type guy, isn't he? He's sort of a one man army. Oh, yeah, he's definitely, he's definitely Mel Gibson, the lethal weapon. He doesn't have a relationship, I'm turning out to throw, especially like if any lady comes into his trailer, it stinks of trollepis. It's not something she would turn a lady on, and it might be golden showers involved, but it's trolle, golden showers. Yeah, trolle, golden showers.

Troll golden showers would be like a waterfall, wouldn't it? Well, that's big trolle. Trolled in showers. For your superb. Weak end of trolle, golden showers. Takes chelikes and yellow and stinky. It's quite Blair Witchy at this point, because we're getting these very fast cuts between locations, and they're testing their equipment, and they're getting comfortable with each other as a crew, and they're interviewing these people, not that comfortable, or maybe.

Yeah, no. But you don't know what they might not have shown. Could be hand jobs that you've turned the camera off. Hand jobs all around. Hand job hunter. Troll, hand job. Oh, well, it's going to be hard, because it's going to be, where is it in the hand? This is a spool troll. Anyway, I love the way you look so seriously, unless it's a spool troll. So the crew here about this picture, like I said, and they find his camper van. They hear that he's nearby, and they're tracking down.

They find his camper van, and he's not there. They spy through the window. They can't find him. They say, look, well, just hang around, because he's got to come back at some point. And he arrives much later in the evening. And he's got fucking scratches and rips all over his van, like, poroffent, it's not just like someone's keyed up your fucking car. This is someone's coming on the tin opener, John tin open and pulled back your fucking car.

It's like the Jurassic Park truck from the first Jurassic Park movie, you know, it's it looks something like that. It's just been like Wolverine's had a bit of a go at it. Wolverine and Freddy Krueger are locked out of it, and they tried to get in. That's what it looks like. And his name is Hans, and he is there's like, how excuse me, excuse me. He's not that. He's not that. Fuck off. He says to them. Get lost. This is the first word he says. Get lost. Does any else?

It's kind of like if Clint Eastwood, let's, let's change this. Let's change this and turn another movie, which doesn't exist, but could exist. It's like if Clint Eastwood was dirty Harry and dirty Harry had been fired, and he didn't know what dirt weekends had moved to Norway. It's like that. Don't ask dirty Harry if you can follow him around. Get out of here, kid. I would love to see Clint Eastwood as a troll hunter.

I think that, see, people worried about AI, I'm saying bring on dirty Harry as a troll hunter. Yeah. The other day, just on a very small AI tangent, I got, I felt an AI rabbit hole on YouTube, and I was listening to Freddy Mercury singing lots of new songs. I listened to him sing, let it go from Frozen, and it literally made me well up because his voice is so suited to that song. Fuck it, I don't know. It sings that song to me.

The bit where he says something about being a queen or something, I thought, that's brilliant, because he was in queen, you know, and he liked to call himself a queen as well. When the person was programming that AI to do that, they wrote, oh, I got it. It was amazing. So I ended up listening to a bunch of songs by Fred Rampers. Oh, really? But they've done like, where? YouTube. It's all on YouTube, yeah, or like M&M. Yeah.

They've got his voice and they've done like, I know it by nature, so M&M's wrapping it, and you're like, and it's weird to hear him saying like the N word and stuff. It doesn't feel right. But at the same time, it's like, it really suits that, you know, and it's funny to hear Amy Winehouse singing something that she could never have sung, because it came out after she died. Michael Jackson singing something and it's just so weird.

What if 50 cents in the club was done as a Motown song, and there's a, the one of the best ones is the Beach Boys, but it's Jay Z's 99 problems. And it's like, again, 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one. And it's so good. It's ridiculous. It's AI's, I love it now. I've decided. Well, we may as well enjoy it before it takes over the race. Yeah. And back to Trill Hunter, get away from Clint Eastwood and AI. Yeah, so he tells them to get lost. So it's nighttime.

Now one film, this one thing this film suffers from is there's a lot of, and then it was the morning, and then it was the morning, and then it was the morning, and now we're driving, and now we're driving. There's a lot of samey stuff. And I agree with what you said. I think we could have cut this down somehow by about 20 minutes. Yeah, it needed a new chop to it, definitely. But it is what it is, and it's a fun ride, like we said.

So they hide it, and they see him come home, and they follow him. They're like, let's try and follow him tonight and see where he goes. But he knows. Funny enough, I had this issue yesterday of that kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, the first half bit, which you're supposed to be, like your fun and games in script terms. So you do lots of fun shit, and just weird shit, whatever. It was like, same jungle, jungle, jungle.

And it was so much, and this is the same, it's like location, location is quite like the same. So it's quite hard to, like, you need these geography points, not even just graphically, but like an actual, just different things to help break things up. Because otherwise it becomes monotomy, but then the story becomes a bit like an effort, like, you know, I don't want to be an effort, or what to be enjoying it.

And almost, this is almost Norway working against the director, because Norway is quite samey. So a lot of the settings do look the same, you know, unless you're in Norwegian, you might recognise certain landmarks of the subject. It's a lot of forests and mountains and roads and stuff, and rivers. But again, it is what it is. We're funny enough in the past. So yeah, the Apes maybe very quickly. At the midpoint turn, it became really interesting then, and I really got into it then.

It's almost like a story, a second half, is it almost when the story really starts? Actually not, I mean, it's like, me getting a chopper to something like that a bit more. It's just interesting, because normally the second half of films is when people sometimes struggle before they get that third act. It's funny in it. What we're on this tangent, it's funny that film is now, so not up at So-N-R, that's not the right word to use.

Indulgent filmmaking and Hollywood is that films these days are a good hour longer than they were when we were younger. When we were growing up in the 80s and 90s, films were 90 minutes, maybe an hour 40. Sometimes there are 60 or, well, not 60, but there were like 70 minutes long, depending on what you were watching. These days, most films are over two hours, two and a half hours, you know. Yeah. I like that, I do, but at the same time, sometimes I just want to be in and out, Gav.

In and out, that's all. I agree, because it made me think this is part of the 8th movie, it's 2 hours, 40 minutes. You can't tell me that during the movie for just 2 hours and cutting 40 minutes off, you know, it's a different of save G money, with how much more affection you have to add for another 40 minute movie, it's how many more days, shootings are 40 minutes more of a movie. I don't understand.

You could, and more people I thought were probably put off by going to a 2 hour 40 minute movie than they would in 2 hour movie. Even 2 hour seems a bit much. Something depends on it, what it is, yeah, be right. I think with that, yeah, you could do 2 hours, but 2 hours 40, I think, I definitely, if people would look at and go, nah, fuck that, 2 hours 40. I had to discuss it with a lot of people. People do it. Some people are like, I'll wait for that to stream.

Yeah. And I can pause it, you know, do what I need to do. That's, but then the opposite is true, with something like the last of us, I, you know, support the first episode is an hour and a half, but then the second episode is 50 minutes, then the 45, then one's an hour, then an hour and 10, then 50 minutes, but I never wanted it to end.

I think what they've done, the formula for TV shows has been found, obviously, a lot of little while ago now, breaking bad and all sorts, enough where it's a drug and it gives you just enough to hook you in without making your board. And they know that they can push it out for 10 episodes where you can extend it and also go, nice, this is where this happens. Fuck yeah, we're in a movie, you can do it with too much or whatever. So that's why I think TV works.

They found that magic formula to make it a drug. The bastards get you don't know because you know, when it's a good TV show, you don't, it feels like you've only been watching it for 10 minutes and then it goes and credits and you're like, what? Yeah, for example, I watch recently, baby reindeer on Netflix. Yeah, I watched that. I was like, needed to go to sleep. I'm pretty good, but I get bit tired. Oh, it's bedtime. I was going past it guy.

Oh, god, I was like the guy in acid rovers facing pole ghost. I had to turn it off eventually. Then in the morning I woke up and I binge to the last two episodes in the morning. I don't do that. I don't do that. But they get the fucking hook to me. They had me. Yeah, it's good that they've seen that. Have you seen that? I saw my 50% of it over Alice's shoulder wash. She was watching it. Oh shit, sit and watch that shit. It's fucking crazy shit. It's a crazy shit for me.

But it's a whole other thing going on about that on the outside. We're not getting to that. We're not getting to that. No, I know the story behind it. But yeah, so back to our intrepid documentarians, they follow this Hans guy secretly, or they think secretly at night time. And he loses them because of course he does because he's a badass. So they've lost him and that's the end of that. And the morning time comes and they're on the way. They've heard.

I actually actually felt a bit like fair play to a bit. But I wouldn't want to do it. I'd be a bit nervous that he's going to come up and bump me in there. Fucking shotgun. Do you know what I mean? They were so almost rude about the way they approached him. It's so cheeky almost. It gives off a bit of a wolf creep vibe at times, doesn't he? I'm sure it's going to happen. It definitely goes off of like, stay in the fuck away for me.

But they keep persisting to the fact that they follow him at night like for a long time to, if they come up to them, which they did on the boat. They wait till they get to this boat later on. It's like, he must be like, you've been following me all this time. I'd be like, what the fuck? But he's not as bad, but we get to him. No. Well, they get some information that a bear has been found shot and killed. And it wasn't by any of the official hunters. So they go to this.

And when they get there, they hear the guys talking and they're interviewing some of them. And they say, well, there's no bear tracks around here. This bear has been shot and then dumped here. And we're suspicious about what's happened. What are the things that happen to someone just dumped this bear here. But then there's all these dead animals nearby. And obviously, spoiler, what we're doing here is we're finding out later on, we find out.

All of this is set up by the troll and then all each in government that whenever a troll breaks through its barrier that it's not like to go out of and so it's killing like sheep or whatever destroying land, what they do is they make out that it was a bear. And they get someone to bring a bear in. These funny Polish guys later on on that scene when these Polish guys bring that dead bear in so funny.

But they basically get a dead bear and then they make out that there's been a bear sort of attack or whatever. But we don't know that at this point. All we know is people are suspicious. There's no bear tracks. So they follow this guy again. And this time, as you said, they go on to a ferry. And they go up to his car. He's not in his car. Of course, he's not. So they say, well, let's go over and let's go and talk to him. He started to compare themselves to Michael Moore, don't they?

Someone you don't hear about anymore randomly. He was all over the place though. Everyone was talking about Michael Moore for a while, aren't they? What happened to him? Well, he's done some touchy subjects towards some certain people, I think. So I don't know. Or he's a certain person who wouldn't get support and most people are trying to shut him down. So that's going to be tiring. So he maybe just doesn't have the energy anymore. He did some great stuff. I read a lot of books, actually.

Yeah. Yeah. So they're comparing themselves to Michael Moore, that kind of stuff. Anyway, they might cut up secretly. And they say, let's go up and speak to him on this boat going, you go over, I think it's Thomas that goes over. So they got to him and you're like, like you said, you could just throw them over board. We don't know what this guy's like. I just think it's so like, I was just like, what? No, you go talk to him. It's to the point that he knows how long you've been following him.

It's a bit fucking stalkery. Go back to baby rain. Yeah, but fucking hell. He says, hello, Thomas says, hello, we met you earlier. You told us to get lost. And he's like, yeah, and I can see you're at your camera over there, your friends over there with a camera, you're probably wearing a mic. Fuck off and stop following me. And then we tried, you know, we really tried. So again, nighttime, they follow him again. They're very persistent these kids. And they follow him to an area.

I'd probably get them done for stalking. And lastly, they get down loosely. They get to a point where he's gone into a field and they get there and there's a sign that's on the gate, which we find out later on the troll and it puts this sign up to keep people away while he's working. And it says no trespassing blasting zone. So they're like, oh, well, fuck it. Let's go in anyway.

So they go in on foot and they go into this sort of area with woods and hills and they hear weird noises and strange noises. And then a big flash of light in the distance, which was thought more about in a moment. And then all of a sudden out of the darkness. So there's a really good, that whole build up is good because they don't believe us. This is the whole thing that we know that's going to be trolls because we're watching a movie.

The guys are dirty, are we, we're saying he knows it. 30 Hans. 30 Hans. He, I mean, that's sad. I'm not bad, poor movie. I've got dirty hands washing for me. Come here, dirty hands. Um, um, oh, he framed me now. He knows as that. But those guys don't believe in the second that it's trolls. So the fun fact here is us watching them go and look at the camera and then go, what the fuck? Because they just see his lights all on. And then he runs out of the woods. We got a big troll.

He just doesn't, he just says one word. Troll. It screams to them. And then what? And then in a couple of seconds, their whole world changes. They now know that trolls exist. It's amazing. Literally, he just, he doesn't care. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed watching their reaction. That was what I said. That was my build up for it. Not me seeing a trolls almost. It was always saying, because this is the second time he was watching it. Oh, first time.

First time I watched this by the way, I watched it at some of the house in London, open air. On the day of the London rights. Oh, well, not so nice. That was in the other. That was in the east end. That was in the west end. That was right. Nice. East end town in the west end world. I can pick a picture, boys. Who doesn't? Yeah, so they get separated as he screams troll and they all kind of get a name for a group. They get a goldfish, they're mama. What's the cool ourselves?

Who are the pet shop boys? Who? It's not a good name. At no point they will go. That's a fucking dope name, man. High five. Yeah, but there's probably some other bands that have got terminates. The tip shop names. The fucking, the, the bicycle shop. Bunch. We can go. We can keep going. Let's just do the trolls. The supermarket trolley. Stuckers. I'm going to get a little bit of a trolley. I'm going to get a little bit of a trolley. I'm going to get a little bit of a trolley.

I'm going to get a little bit of a trolley. I'm going to get a little bit of a trolley. The supermarket trolley. Stuckers. Also, the liquorice also. So Thomas has been bitten by this, whatever it is. I don't know what this is. And Hans was like, my god, you've been bitten. We got to get some first aid to be doing that. What's all this? Basically, you're going to get a tetness. You're going to get a tetness. There's slime all over me. I don't know what this is.

And he's like, we need to get away from here now. That no one's questioning them yet about him shouting troll. They're all just sort of Thomas is injured. They're all shaken up. There's another thing that's earlier on. Just before they see the troll. It's exactly like Los Cossetakes where their boom operator can hear something. Is that the same in Los Cossetakes? Yeah, because they hear like a weird growling noise. Well, he says to them, let's go back to your car. They get to their car.

And their car is absolutely trashed. It's on its side. It's been much trawledged on the slime everywhere. The trawledges is all over it. And one of them says to Hans, is this a bear that could have done this? Yeah. And he's like, no, I said it was a troll. And they're like, hmm. So you're saying that trolls exist? And he reluctantly says that I'll drive you. I'll give you a lift back. Come on, let's get over here. And in the car, they put a plug up the courage to ask him more about trolls.

He's a bit reluctant, but he starts to give him bits of information. Says he's a troll hunter. And they were looking at each other like, well, if this guy is this is again, a bit like another fan footage movie, to get up the marrow, which I just mentioned to you off there, where this could be a guy that's just completely nuts, or it could be a guy that's playing trolls or in digging up the marrow. He could be a guy that really has playing monsters.

But either way, this is going to make great documentary. So let's film it. So they ask him, can we document you? And he actually says, yeah, OK. And what? It's it, yeah. Because he had what is it? The something which gives him the thing we realize is that he has to do it. And he's fed up nowadays. It's something to be able to push back that he's getting from the government, where he's a bit like, fuck this. I'm in that Norway and the world know that this exists now. Because he's kind of like.

He's fed up of it. And that's why he's also says, fuck it, I'll do it because later on they go to C.A. DNA species or say, I don't know, some woman in a lab. And they ask a question. And she looks at him and he says, it's OK. I'll take the trouble from it. Say, say it, they need to go on. Say it, we need to get this out. And that's what this film turns into. It comes into a message of this guy. Need to get out of conspiracy, which is actually a reality, but hidden away from the public.

Yeah. That's very true. So the next night, he says to them, I'll let you come with me tomorrow night. So we cut to the next night and they all go out together and he says to them, no. Got a check. Does anyone in this car believe in God? And they're all looking at each other. What do you mean? Because trolls can smell the blood. Nice touch, sis. Yeah, he says, but it's a bit of a vampire thing. It's kind of one of those blood. They can smell the blood of a Christian man.

And they're all sort of saying, well, no, one of them says I used to be in a church choir when I was a kid, but I don't believe. They're believing God, you know, none of us to. And they're all like, no, none of us to. Oh, one of them might know. Oh, oh. On the way to the site they're going to, one of the realising is that he's sitting on the landmine. And up to this bit, he's like, what's systems anyone? And the harms are just like, it's a landmine. And they're like, what?

He's like, yeah, it's a landmine. He's like, I've been sitting on this the whole time. He's like, I don't worry. It's not armed yet. Yet. Jesus Christ. Well, it's not armed. It's all right, so if it's not armed. I'm trying to on yet. You're okay. Don't worry about it. And yeah, he says to them, right, this is your last chance before we get out of the car. You don't have to come. It gives them so many chances. You don't have to come. They're like, no, no, we want to film you. Let's all stay.

Right, okay. Go and take off all of your clothes. What? Whoa. What's going on here, Hans? Go to the river. Hans, dirty Hans, what's happening? He says, go to the river. Take off all your clothes, wash in the river, and then take this lump of whatever it is and rub it all over your body. Wash your armpits and your groins. He says. Yeah. And then what the hell's going on? And then rub that on. So basically just rub troll piss all over you. Yeah. He doesn't really say what it is. It's just troll.

It could be from a gland. A dog has a scent gland in its butt. It could be like out of a troll's butt. It could be a troll's bollock. It could be a troll's penis. We don't know what they're rubbing on themselves, but they're rubbing troll scent all over themselves. As we don't have smell of vision in television world, we have to take a guess that it's not very nice. The worst smell I've ever smelled is probably in Canada when I smell a skunk. And that was pretty bad.

I mean, I've smelled some terrible smells. Don't get me wrong, I've got toddlers, but a skunk was pretty bad. And it hung around for days and days. My worst smell is in the South of Cisco. I came back to my apartment as there's crack it that used to just... He lived in the block somewhere somewhere. But it's so fucked out his face. He would sit like cross-lead. One time, I just sat straight in front of my apartment door. I had to go around him to get in and just staring at it for hours.

Just looking at my door. I could look through the people, look down, and he's just staring at my door. And one time, I came back and I smelled. He was cooking something somewhere. Well, Bern's like, is that a fucking dead body? Like, it was something I've never smelled before. So much, my friends popped over for England to see me. And I was just like, what the fuck are we going to eat? And he just looked at us like he wanted to eat us. And it was like, what the fuck is he burning?

It could have been drugs, I guess, but it smelled bad. Well, Hans also shows them that he's got a huge flash bulb, which has a UV light in it. I did think, if I ever smell a dead body, oh, no, instantly, if that was the same smell, because I'll have a flash back to then. You'll know. Maybe it was rotting flesh. Oh, yeah. Maybe. So, yeah, he shows them this flash bulb. And then it says that basically, I use this as a defense against the stroke. What happens when the troll see this flashing UV?

And he says, well, it depends. They either turn to stone or they explode. And they're like, the more he tells them, the more they're interested but the more they also don't believe this because it's ridiculous. So they all start discussing fairytales. This is like what we've got told is children. We're kids in Norway. Yeah. I like the fact that it's in Norwegian. This isn't sub-total. But he says troll piss in English. Troll piss. Yeah. Troll piss.

Okay. We also find out that there's different types of troll, different sort of breeds, if you will, of troll. But the one that they're going after at the moment is called a Ringlefinch, which I like. And he says, so basically you can see where the Ringlefinch here has been marking his territories. You can see he's relieved to finally pass this knowledge on that he's been holding on for all these years. He's like, these markings show where the Ringlefinch has been.

You know, he's noxious trees down. He does this. He does that. And then he gets a radio into somebody. And you're like, what? There's more people involved in this. Well, this is obviously the government and stuff. And he says to them, right? Okay. And you want me to get a blood sample? Yeah. I'll get a blood sample. Yeah. No problem at all. They're all looking at each other. I love the fact that he's talking to. Yeah. I love that. It's just like an organisation. It's just work people.

It's going to go to work today. What's my job? Fucking taking down trolls. Well, he reveals later in the film that he is the only troll hunter in Norway. So he drives all over the country. Must be tired. Taken out these trolls. No wonder he's so grumpy. Yeah. And stinks. So they test their night vision cameras. Of course they do. This is a flying footage film. Everything that's called with a green night vision. Brilliant. And they hear some growling. Something very big moving in the trees.

And we get our proper first reveal of a troll. Because this is that. This is a real proper reveal. I think actually because they must think you've full of shit. And taking the piss out of them slightly. But yeah. Ground vital. We get we get we get we get a T-Rex Jurassic Park moment where the ground starts vibrating, which is a nice touch actually. If you look, if you look, it looks different things of vibrating, which is nice. Trees cracking. We hear it mask. In the distance.

It's a lovely build up. Yeah. And good so you could use a sound in this. Yeah, yeah, good sense of. And then the troll reveals itself. And not only is it a troll, it's a fucking three-headed troll, Gav. A huge troll with three heads. Now we later find out when he's discussing the sort of biology of some of the trolls. That these other two heads aren't proper heads. When these type of trolls get really old, they grow these petrusions on their next bush that look like other heads.

Which is cool that they undreurate at the time to like write all this backstory for these trolls. These different types of trolls, but they're all really confused and very scared. And Hans says, right, we need to run, run, run, so they start all running. They can see the troll through night vision. They're all hiding. They managed to find each other because they got separated. One of them, Chase gets chased and Hans, Hans, he turns it to stone using the big light on the top of his Jeep.

So it sort of flashes that here and it cracks turns the stone. As he says, he sniffed you out. One of you believes in God. Yeah. But he shows them and they're all like, if this is real, this is real, can't believe this is real. And yeah, he says one of them, one of you is Christian. You know, and he then goes on to explain, I'm the only one in the country. I'm doing this for the government and Norwegian government don't want anyone to know about these trolls or their existence of it.

He then the thing is the poor guy, not only does he have to hunt the troll, track the troll, hunt it, then kill it by turning it to stone if he can, or get a blood sample from it, wherever it is he needs to do for the government. After that, he can't just leave a giant troll made of stone in the middle of the woods. So after that, he then blows it up with dynamite.

Then he sort of drills it down with a jackhammer to little bit of pieces and sort of spreads it out to make it look like it's just a few rocks. I picked him days to do that. I absolutely adore that it's a real controlled explosion. And he's got explosion blankets, all heavy blankets on top of the explosion to take the density of it. I loved it. I loved the fact it's a controlled explosion.

It just makes it more like we have to do an official through the books, you know, you know what I mean? It's good. It's a little touchy like that. And of course, as he's finishing up in the morning, you know, and he drilling down the last few bits of big brick and rock, the government, the GMM shows up the government official. Try to see if that camera turned off, doesn't he? What the fuck are these cameras doing here?

He must be like, it's like, we keep this quiet and all of a sudden turn up and there's a fucking camera crew with you. This is the only bit which I've got a problem with this film at this point here. This guy would have straight away gone up, taken that camera off them, taken all their camera gear, all camera bags, had them searched for memory cards. Do you know what I mean? They would have, they leave them, then he plans on getting in a few days' time. Do you know what I mean?

Duplication. You know, I found out a bit shit. But apart from that, I know what you mean. It should have done. But luckily, this scene ends up with something that I find really fun, which is a Polish paint supply. A Polish paint supply. A bunch of Polish guys that have driven into Norway, their job is to bring dead bears in. Bring dead bears. Basically, you're hunt bears. So this guy's like, hey, hey, how you doing? Yeah, you're going to film us. Nice. Nice, you're filming us. This is cool, man.

We like your cameras. It's quite a jovial welcome to the film, isn't it? And they're sort of like, are you filming us with this dead bear? Because what we do is they just start spinning the beans. We get paid to bring these dead bears in to cover up these tropes. They're just telling them everything. These guys, like, we can't leave. Don't worry, it's not that you're just kidding me. Yeah, yeah. You know. And they ask him, you know, what's your job?

And he's like, my job, you know, it's basically to bring these bears in. And then you see them with these fake bear feet. Thank you, fake bear tracks. Thank you for tracks and sort of like, just making it look like this bear. But the problem is, obviously, they've started. There aren't as many bears anymore. So they've started finding like Russian bears. And then the government have to explain how a Russian bear is ended up in Norway. You know, it's traveled all that way.

You know, and then it got shot by the poacher or whatever it is. So the story is starting to get thin, which I think is why Hans wants to break it to the world. They say to him, you know, what is your job? And he says, I'm a troll hunter. You know, I'm the only one in the world. And I just want people to know about their existence anymore. So this is where they start discussing to themselves. We could be so rich. Should we keep following him? Should we keep doing this, you know?

It's dangerous, but actually I've finally said they've already been friends. They should get going now. I'll make a video out of the first they had. Yeah, they could. It's not finished. It's a documentary. You can't really see it as a documentary. But what they've got is so incredible. The world ran. To show trolls, they could sell that footage easily to a new. Just a three-headed troll being to understand that. They could sell that footage and that was all they need.

But they have to be like one and more. Same as all humankind. Yeah, they want more. So they decide to stay. So they have breakfast with Hans. He joins them and they talk about. He says, I work for the TSS, which is the troll security service of Norway. It's a top secret, you know, part of the government that no one knows anything about. What I do is, you know, everything you've heard about in fairy tales, they're not cute, ugly, smelly things. They're dangerous. They're predators.

They're animals. Some of them have quite good intelligence. They can live up to 1200 years old. They used to be, I used to be in the Navy. So that's how I became the troll hunter. I'm pretty good at what I do. I can track most things. And he tells them all these shows them like pictures and stuff. And he forms that he has to fill out when he's killed one. You know, how old was it? What type of troll was it? Did you destroy it? Did you make it turn to stone?

Did you destroy all these different things? So he's got to do all this stuff by the book. It's like just a job. And he's so done with it. That's why he's telling them was he then says, you can come into my camper van if you want. And this is where they go into the smelly, smelly tramp. The camper van, isn't it? Oh, tramp event. Trumper van. He's got troll tails all over the ceiling in there, which is removed from some of the trolls that he's killed and didn't to understand.

There's pots of like troll scent everywhere in troll glands and maps and drawings and guns and knives. He's leaning under a sunbed. Yeah. That's weird. He's paranoid. So he thinks well, the trolls won't get me from under this. Because I need a basic UV light on me all the time that way they won't like me. That's just bonkers. It's pretty weird. But he says to them, right, let's go find this wringle finch then. So they're on board. Here we go. So they want to go on to the next one.

They want to find another troll capture it on camera. So they do. So he climbs up a tree to look around for signs of a troll. He shows them his traps that he set. He sets traps that have got charcoal in them because the trolls look trolls like to eat charcoal. I don't know honey. Weird. He says, oh, there's none of these traps have been triggered yet around here. Lots of driving looking for tracks. Some tourists say that they've seen bear tracks. They find some carcasses underneath the bridge.

They go to this bridge and there's lots of people from the local village under there looking at all these dead animals. They know that this has been a troll but all these local people are like, what could have done this? What could have killed all these sheep or whatever it's goats. And then the G-man shows up again. And they start pushing his buttons to document triggered. They start saying, do you think this could have been a bear?

There's no bear tracks around here and they're really taking the piss out of him I feel like. And he could really get them arrested at this point. But I think because they're with Hans they feel like invincible. I like we've got a Jurassic Park moment turns up with some goats on a bridge at night time. Are you guys sitting there waiting to see what happens? It's very Jurassic Park. And for a fan of the movie that's a huge compliment. Well, it's actually goats. Although it is very Jurassic Park.

I think it was a goat who tries to put on a horseback. But obviously that's the link to Billy Gates' graph. There's ten of three Billy Gates' graph. And what I love here is he says, right, okay, so they look quite often in a fine under bridges. So tonight I'm going to go, I'm going to plant some goats. I'm going to put on this suit of armour which is like the bear suit that that guy wears in the... Is it called the Grizzly Man? That he's got documentary about the guy that tries to...

No, it wasn't that... There is a guy that built a bear suit which is ridiculous. Oh, there's that as well. It's like Iron Man. Yeah, he wanted to make a bear suit fight a bear and I don't know. It was ridiculous. Lesnie Nielsen didn't need a bear suit. Fuck, no. Don't take animals. Don't take animals people. Check it out. It's fucking the bomb. So yeah, to paint the scene, we've got a couple of goats on a bridge to lure the troll in. We've got Huns in this metal suit of armour.

You got Night Vich Nielsen and just waiting. That's what was very drastic parker that moment I did like it. Nice tension. He goes up and again, this is very fairy tale. He rings about. Because the troll is most likely to sound about it. Have we seen an arm come up? See a troll arm? That's well good. It's so good. That's great. It eats some sheep or some goats. We get to see, he pours some blood out then to attract it again to the smell of the blood.

And then he gets punched by this troll picked up about like fucking no ones business. He's like a fucking ragdoll and it throws him on the floor and walks off and they will like look at him. Is he alive? And he gets back up. And we can do the sides for syringes as well. Oh yeah, fucking hell. He's got to take a blood sample from this one. So the crew checks on him and he is said alive and he says, he's such a badass. Give me this syringe.

So they give him the syringe and he's like, right, stay here. I'm heading down under the bridge. That he goes down under the bridge. We see lots of flashing lights and noise. The troll explodes into pieces. But he comes back up. He's got the blood sample and the syringe and he radios in. And he says to them, okay, I've got this syringe. Let's take this to the, I think it's like a local vet. It also happens to work for. Oh, they can do the test. He works for the government as well.

Well, that's what he does. A criminal, isn't it? If your friend's been shot. Let's get him over to any defense. Yeah. There's always a scene in those gangster films. So my friend, he's got a bloodshot wound and a gunshot wound. And they're like, I already sew up cats. And then they put a gun to the face. You're sewing them up now, bud. You call him phydo if you want, but you fucking sew them up now. It's always in a, like a Tarantini movie or something like that.

Well, it's not what it should be. So yeah, the vet tests the blood. They interview her. Maybe Tarantini said it. The last movie is going to be the vet. Oh, be a rocker. A vet who's now a vet. And he's there just patching up people. Oh, I like that. That could be the ninja. It's a quick, the vet. It's Harvey. It's Harvey. He can't tell. And one day the wrong, the wrong gangster is pushing over the edge. Yeah. And he's like, someone dies. Someone comes in and dies. He can't save him.

Then they come and kill his animals. I know Quentin is one of our listeners. So Quentin, please. Patron, who you think you're at. He just told us not to tell anyone. So sorry, Mr. Tarantini. If he was a patron, we would be, he probably wouldn't give us very much. I'd love to hit him. Give it a spaniard to review movies. Okay. And then give us these obscure French fifties movies. I don't have what that fatness is. Okay. Thanks. Some like samurai movie. I don't have what the sixties just did.

Yeah. So the vet explains what she's doing. She explains their biology a bit more and why they don't like sunlight. Because their bodies can break down. The vitamin D and that kind of stuff. And she says, if they're an older, if they're very old, like close to a thousand years old, that's when they'll turn to stone. But the younger trolls just explode like the one under the bridge did. So she kind of gives us a bit of realistic back stories to their biology as well.

And yeah, she tests it and tells him, you know, what's going on. And in the morning, Hans is collected loads of newspapers. And he's looking at all the headlines. And like, well, what are you doing? And he's like, well, basically, I'm looking for signs of patrol clues. Like what you mean? He's like anything that's like a farm that's been destroyed or a herd of cattle that's been mutilated or killed or, you know, a fence has been ripped down. These are all the signs I look out for.

And he's very old school, you know, in the middle of the thing. You know, he's in a nose, she and he. Yeah. He explains to them, there's lots of different territories. There's forest trolls. There's mountain trolls. There's rock trolls. There's all these different, and they don't get on and they have these battles. It tells them that they like to chew on car tires. So this is all weather out in the field. He's showing them around.

So this takes place over lots and lots and lots of scenes this next bit. And it is a bit samey, but we do learn a lot of back story and exposition about trolls and stuff. Even reveals that when they get pregnant, they are pregnant for 15 years. And one of them says, are they mammals? Yeah, they're clusters mammals. You know, he shows them a battleground where many years ago there was a big, big battle between some mountain trolls and some ground trolls.

He visits, he's got a contact at the museum. So he's got a contact all over the place. And he visits his contact at the museum who gives him some information on some activity at a local farm. So they go to this farmer and the farmer says, well, I've been told by the government. Maybe it's a tornado. Maybe it's a tornado. He's in through here. But we don't really get tornadoes in Norway. And also nothing else in my farm is damaged. The government told me it's a tornado.

It's probably a government say it. They must be right. And they're like, so obviously we know it wasn't a tornado. So that's pretty cool that the government are still doing all this shady shit. This time at night, they find some troll tracks. So they're on the trail. And he pulls his weird horn out, doesn't he? Oh. He pulls his horn out. He pulls his own trumpet. Everybody rub the stench on yourselves. Get that stench on you. It's the word stench.

So they rub the stench on and they head into the old stench. Well, they then go into a shaft. Stink into a mine shaft. When they get in there, he says to them, it looks like a whole pack of trolls is living in here. Now at this point. It's a troll, like, yeah, let's turn around and go out. Yeah. If I was in the documentary crew at this point, we're not dealing with one. We're dealing with a pack of trolls and we are in an old deserted mine. I don't want to go in there.

By the way, this is like a certain plaque makes me this is a point here. It kind of makes me a lot more interested and a bit more in it because it's a totally different location. It just makes it more interesting. It's not a bit wrong with the same location. It's not like a movie setting is completely the same location all the time. But it's got to be done in a proper way. But it's nice welcome, I feel, the new location.

Yeah. And what's good as well is that the evidence that there's a pack of trolls living here is there's dolls. There's a threat involved. It's a whole lot of skeletons everywhere. Just kick the film back up again. It was needed earlier on, to be honest. It's a little bit of a troll shit. They hear a noise and they click on the night vision and the trolls arrive. There's five of them. And they're trying to get out and they come and it's like, yeah. So they run back to the lay out.

So they hide in a little hole and the little trolls come in and go to sleep and start farting. Oh, it's so funny. And it must have forgot about that. Well, yeah, because they're almost throwing up on there. Initially, they're snoring. But their cameraman's freaking out bad. And he keeps rubbing his stink on him because he's like pretty shocked. They're going to find out to the point where he keeps getting louder and louder and louder and louder.

Yeah, is he the one that actually is revealed to be very Christian? And that's why he's panicking. Yeah, he's got his head. He doesn't smell it. He says to them. His name's Callie. He says, okay, I've got to tell you I'm a Christian. I've got him a Christian. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. And Hans says, okay, don't sweat. Don't sweat. Don't sweat. Fucking hell. Bit late, mate. I've shot the pants. But he says they'll smell the sweat on you. But of course they wake up because they smell him.

Dude, get in. Dude gets in. Yeah, they use the flash bulbs. I know the fact his camera still works, but the cameraman's useless. They do that classic sideways camera drop in a fine footage film to show that his presence has been killed. But it works. It works. And yeah, Joanna grows back as she finds the camera and they're all a bit sad about it. But fuck it. Let's carry on making this talking entry. See, a lot of selfish just going on here.

They should have stopped earlier on and never wanted to be killed ready. They go back to the caravan and the guys there now looking for tapes. You've had days. They could have been in the gym for KST's days and emailed them to someone easily. Yeah, ridiculous. He argues with them about it and tells them to turn the camera off again. They're like, really? They're like, they're the new director of photography. Let's get someone out here and they don't explain to this new person. Not very well.

Before that, just before that, they agree. They want to carry on because they want revenge for Kali dying and they say, his death would have been for nothing if we don't carry on. No, no, no. There's always a selfish route, isn't it? It should be like we should finish that respect for him. And we make what we can. That's how you'd finish it. And we'll make a lot of money. Anyway, of course they think they can make more. But they get a new camera person and she's like, yeah, it's wildlife.

Yeah, we're shooting wildlife. And then it's like, you're into God. I'm a Muslim. All right. Okay. And then he goes to Hans. It's Muslim, okay? And he's like, ah, I'm already sure to be honest. I know they know like Christians. We'll find out. We'll find out. She's like, what the fuck is going on? I'm going off of these random guys. But later on at no point, then does she actually have any moments where she's like, what the fuck is this?

And starts going, it just, that gets forgotten, which is weird. It is weird. And there are holes you can pick in this if you want. Unfortunately, yeah. And this is probably my third or fourth time in watching this, you know, the first couple of times. You don't notice these little things. But as a reviewer, we do notice these little things. We do, as a reviewer. But we forget about it. Because then the next thing, Hans is fitting these massive spikes to the front of his Jeep.

And that looks cool as fuck. Fair enough. So, you know, fuck it. The new girl thinks they're joking when she says, no, we're going troll hunting now. They're like, yeah, what do you mean? And they find out that these power lines, all throughout Norway, aren't really power lines. They're an electric fence that the Norwegian government has put up to keep the trolls within their territories. And that's why there's loads of power lines all in the country side in Norway to keep the trolls in.

And there's a problem with this. So they go and visit the tech guys who run the big power plant that powers one lot of the electric fences. And they say to them, you know, we're not really sure what's going on. But the power's gone out. So they realize, oh shit, these trolls are going to escape. We don't go and sort this out. It is like I said, parking electric fences keeping the animals in. We just need some of the little tax and typing away on a keeper. And then getting his arm ripped off.

Please! That's my giant, that's my impression. Brilliant. I watched the New Jurassic World the other day. Yeah, yeah. I loved it. It's dinosaur. It's a film. Come on. It's a dinosaur. Yeah, so we find out a bit more about this guy who's been doing this since the 70s. Thomas talks to the camera and says, like, this man is a hero. So actually at this point, not only is their friend died, but they also realize how much this guy's done for the country.

And they really want to give him his heroic praise and let the whole world know what he's done for this country. Now he's kept everything together. Is he, is he a protagonist? Maybe. Because he's not really a like boy and that's the thing with this. It comes across more of a documentary. It doesn't come across a proper film because there is no protagonist. But we do obviously have the antagonist as the trolls. So there is a mission for someone. So he must be the protagonist essentially.

Well, they go to this cabin now. This troll is TSS cabin, troll security services cabin. And this is where Thomas collapses and Thomas finds out he's got rabies. And it's because the trolls have got rabies, which is why they are all acting up. So there's an infection of rabies in amongst a lot of the trolls. That's the whole Thomas. He's like, oh my god, oh my god, I need to get to a hospital then. He's like, I've got a job to do. I haven't got time to get to a hospital.

We did do that another time, but right now I've got to get these trolls. So these trolls out Thomas is obviously freaking out because he's got rabies. Right. If he's so. They've got a suns up in an hour. Yeah, he says we got one hour, one hour of darkness left. Now that is just a great sentence, one hour of darkness left. That would make a great title for a film, one hour of darkness. Just like that, I don't know. But we see a troll on the horizon, Gav. Yeah. Big troll with a big dick nose.

Yeah. Big troll dick nose. Big troll dick nose. Yeah. Yeah. The troll has got things. I think this one has on its face. I wouldn't like to see a trolls dick. Yeah. Would not like to get it. More trolled us. She's swinging around knocking things over as they spawn. Rumble through the forest. On me. Imagine accidently walking on a troll doing a shit in the forest. Just be awful wouldn't it? She rolls. Jesus Christ. She in bricks. She in bricks. Yeah, this trolls headed their way.

And Hans says, right, all stay here. I'm going to go off and defeat this troll. And he gets an itchy, he plus playing Christian hymns. And this is a point where he speaks. And this dude camera person, that's be like, what the fuck are we doing? What's going on? But this is laughing. Forgotten. Yeah, I know what you mean. She's kind of like a character that's brought in. She's just camera person now. But as though it could at least overdubbed some reaction voices on top.

With her sort of saying, what is in there? Like just keep rolling. We'll explain all later. Something like that. Yeah. So he plays these like really loud hymns. And like Christian songs out of his Jeep, which obviously tracks the troll. Because it doesn't like Christians. So it heads towards his troll. He flashes his UV. And it's a slow troll. Don't flash a troll. Boys and girls don't flash your trolls. He slows it down a bit. But then the power cuts out. It's a bit tense, power cuts out on it.

So they all get in his Jeep. And he said, I love this. He gets, they all get in his Jeep and he just links over into them and he says, it's definitely rabies. It's such a casual like, it's definitely rabies. And then drive it off really quick when the, when the trolls are after him. The effects of the fear. Well, good. Out of windows. Yeah, and we get this amazing, trusted part reference. Where you see it again in the, in the review mirror.

Just like, you know, Jeff Goldblum in the review mirror being chased, you know. Yes. Yeah, it's all very good. So very cool. Great effects. They stop. They do more UV flashing. They drive off again. It chases them a bit more now. This is the road. Yeah, it's slapped them right off the road. Wow. Onto their side. They all managed to get out. Well, he said, I need to finish him off. I, okay. He said, he says, I need to give him the finishing blow. He talks like a real hero.

I need to deliver the finishing blow. That's what he must be up for. He's got a lot of progress. And then we hear all these deafening rares. And again, the sound design is incredible on this, you know. I was seeing from a distance, don't we? And photoque. You see the scale in the distance. It's really good. Yeah. And he just pulls that up a Zooka. Because he's got a landmine. Stirring the stone. And he just leaves the thing. He just leaves. He just leaves it, doesn't he?

Doesn't that come back at all? Just goes. That's how you get by to him. It's like, my job's done. Well, you don't need me no more. Fuck it. I'm out of here. Boom. And they all walk back on foot. They took about the hard drive. Some van's arrive at this point. I'd be shit myself, helping out those hard drives on me. Should have got rid of murder. Well, yeah, because some some government van's arrive at this point. And they run away.

And then it just says, there's no more footage available after this. No more recordings. And no signs of these teenagers have been seen since. If you see them or hear anymore, or any of the things that evidence trolls in Norway, please contact the local government. And then it ends with Norwegian Prime Minister giving that weird speech, very mentioned. Yeah, we've got a troll problem in Norway. Yeah. And his speech is official next to him looks at him like, what the fuck? And that is the end.

Kind of bit of a weak ending in some ways. Like the fight with the trolls was amazing. The bazooka, the effect, the sense of scale, like you said, the same design. I just would have liked, I never always, I'm not always a fan of when it just says, sadly, no more footage was available. I know it's a real trope in the film footage movies, but I wanted a bit more. I wanted Hans to like become a hero. You don't see that lamp, actually. Do you know, it feels like you do.

Absolutely, but you don't, I can't really don't actually. Not a huge amount. It's a bit weak source. It's a bit nice of you. But that's troll answer. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, trolls and goats. And it's a really fun ride. Yes, on repeated viewings, you can pick holes in it, you know, the poor Muslim girl doesn't seem to question what the hell's going on. Like we said, it drags on a bit in places where they're repeatedly driving up and down different roads of Norway.

And yes, like a lot of the times we say, they could cut a good 20 minutes out of this. But the first time, the second time you watch this, you will be enjoying it. Yes, it's funny. It's a fun film. It's funny, it's well-acted. It's a ridiculous concept with these guys acting. It's like Grand Expo's Santa Claus. And there's a guy that deals with Santa Claus's for the government and all that kind of stuff. It's a ridiculous concept, but because they act so seriously, Hans makes it.

Otto Japperson, his name is, the place Hans, he's brilliant in this. He just does it in such a serious way, like, yeah, trolls are real, and I hunt them. It takes lots of boxes. Found footage, it's got a fancy elements. It's a fine, you know, it's documentary as well. It's got all these kind of things in it. And while made well-crafted, holds up well after 14 years, I'd say. Yeah. Well, check out if you haven't seen it, especially if you're into your found footage films.

I do remember this doing quite well at Fright first when it came out. I'm going to say found footage films which are non-English speaking language, because it's the language I speak, do you find a little annoying? Just because the nature of the found footage, the cameras moving a lot, we've subtold as well. Sometimes it can be hard. This one's too bad. Sometimes it can be hard to follow.

Compared to a standard film where the camera doesn't move too much, and you can sit there and read the subtitles, then it plays on some next bit. It's more phonetic with a found footage. I know what you're saying. You know, wordful words. Definitely a thumbs up from me. From you as well, I think. It is. From me, yeah. I'm not going to come back to loads. I'm in an R and keeping my blu-ray on off. I don't know how much I've watched it.

I've probably seen it about four times now, and if it's on the horror channel or whatever the horror channel is for these days, I'll watch it. I'll show it to Elijah, I think, then I might not get rid of maybe. Do you see him watch that? Bill's here. Oh, hello Bill. What are you doing? Where are you wearing that? Where have you got nothing on except for a tag on your toe? No, there's a little tutu he's just put on. It's a leather tutu. We've never seen that shit before. Weird.

Interesting. Weird. Anyway, Bill, what was that? I suppose you were that Bill, take us out of here. Yeah, where do the strange let's do it? Hi, welcome back to the world of the strange. Oh, that was strange. Well, that's the first one, 12. Well, thank you, Bill, for turning up and introducing that. As always, Bill's given me a list of interesting stories, linking into our next film, the autopsy of Jane Doe.

Now, these are stories, real-life stories of people that work more, people that work with dead bodies, regular. So, Sarah's shown interesting things on this. I've always said to her, I said, you can come back smelling of dead. No, no, what's interesting about this list is, it isn't your usual dead body set up and the person was actually alive, that kind of thing. There might be one or two of these in there, but a lot of these are very different.

And a lot of them are quite realistic, showing you the true, what it is like working with dead bodies regularly, because we're all human beings and we all die, and we are just all sacks of meat full of farts and shit. You used it, you know, when you see a horror movie in the old door dish and the more tissue guys, I said, all-tish and... What's all-tish? All-tish and... More tissue guys, is there any sandwich and puts half a sandwich on the chest of one of the... their stiffs?

And then carries on talking and picking some and eats it. You see that in all horror movies. That's a job. Peter Jackson's coming in and brain-det, though. Okay, but I said lots of films. It's a job, though, isn't it? That whole... Yeah. You don't need to talk. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Ten... Ten... Ten-ton of kind of destination, you know. Exactly. You know, he's just been away taking the nipple rings out of that guy. They're worried about it. Okay, so here we go.

So, these are all just quick quotes, sentences, paragraphs, from people that have worked in these sort of establishments. So, the deceased's grandson's faked a breakdown over the casket, started crying over the casket, but they were noticed. What they were doing this, they were taking all the jewelry off of her body. So, they were stealing from the dead grandmother's corpse at the funeral.

It didn't take long for the rest of the family to spot what they were doing, which resulted in a huge fight at the funeral. But if I could crash heads or something? The jewelry was taken back off of them and given back to the body. And the creepy thing was, two weeks later, the grandson that had taken the jewelry turned up in my morgue, dead himself. Oh, shit. Yeah, because... The desperation of trying to steal that shit, they owed money or whatever, they were putting junkies or whatever.

I wonder what the deathful cause was there. But I bet you were starting to do with being a fucking street fag. A Colombian necktie, I should imagine, or something. The next one says, I was an ER nurse, and once we had someone die, and no one came to claim the body. So, they went to the morgue. That was that. But their phone stayed in the ER by accident. And every day, two through TPM, the alarm would go off. We couldn't figure out how to unlock the phone or turn the alarm off.

And the battery on it lasted for months and months and months. We ended up locking it in the bedroom, but it was so loud you could still hear the phone going off. We had to listen to that dead person's alarm, two through TPM every day, haunting us for months. To this day, I still shudder when I hear that same ringtone. Oh, that's a poor person. I said it was locked. What? What could it turn off? Because they couldn't unlock the phone. Oh! And the battery on it lasted for months.

So, this alarm was just going off. This poor person had been sent down to the morgue and the body was processed and weeks and months passed that. This alarm was still going off. Why have they got the phone? Because they had to keep it, I guess, evidence. I don't know, I don't really know. I don't know why you would have the phone. It's just obviously going to get rid of it, but the phone's on there if you have to keep the possession weird. OK. Here's another good one.

This would make a good scene in a horror film. My best friend, growing up, lived in the upstairs of his family-owned funeral home. So, we were kids. I'm used to play hide and seek in the empty caskets. One day. One day, though, we got a surprise. Fuck yeah, you opened it up and there's a body in there. That's what? Indeed. Indeed. They just got a delivery from a different funeral home. I love it. I love it. I love the sound of it. And there's a body in there. No, no, I love it.

I've done it the same way times that it's never going to think of it. One day, because they've gone past the fact that it's dead, it's involved. They're just playing. They've gone put to these now great hiding boxes. That's what I are. They're not going to go through hiding boxes for the game. And one day, they just say, I play a game. Oh, shit! That's fucking well, good. Couple of ten-year-old boys as well. That's a goonies. That's a Spoolberg movie. That's fucking brilliant. The next one says,

My wife is a mortician once. She was trying to break up the rigour mortis in a deceased person's hip by lifting and flexing the entire leg up. But her grip slipped and the leg swung back down. The heel of her foot cracked her right in the face and gave her a black eye. She had to explain to people for the next week or so. She's not on an abusive relationship. She just got kicked in the face by a dead guy. Oh, that's an old pub conversation. What happened to you, dead guy? Kicking in the face.

She had seen the other guy. It's dead. How about you still have things to do? How many go if I can crack the body back to like, not so straining again? There's a few of these, but that happens. Is that a full of dicks? There's a dicks get up. Yeah, that is. Hold that thought, because that is one of my stories. Hold that thought. Hold that dead dicks. It's not a thought I want, but okay. A stiff dead call. The next one says, I was working for a while over as an overnight transporter of the dead.

So I transport dead bodies. It was good pay. Didn't do it for long. I wore a black suit, a white shirt, a black tie. I used an unmarked black van, white gloves. Our boss wanted us to look very high-end. Anyway, we needed to transport a recently deceased middle aged woman 250 miles in the dead of night from a hospital walk to a mortuary near her family. It'd been two hours of total silence driving along. When all of a sudden the corpse let out a long scream and wail.

Wow. Was it just access, access gases? Yeah, he said I was about to shit myself as I swirled off the freeway. Even though I knew what this was, it was just stomach gases escaping through the mouth of the body. Fuck me. And it made it go. Oh my God. Can you imagine that? Oh my God. It's probably like the heat temp to change, probably, didn't it? Oh. And like the bumping up and down on the road. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, change of atmosphere and whatever. And situation.

Wow. That's that, that's what that would, that would all my shit up. Yeah, it's stomach gases, stomach gases, but also air in the lungs and stuff as well. And all of that kind of stuff. Pretty bad stuff. Pretty. A lot of people have heard these types of stories, but I just thought it was fun, fun little conversation. Here's another one. Back in the day, I used to work for a funeral home and often when they're now already climbing, I had pre-arrangements and they passed away.

I'd be dispatched to go and collect their remains and bring them back to the funeral home to be prepped for their celebration of life, or going away, party, whatever you want to call it. But sometimes this would be a collection directly from the morgue. And sometimes it would actually be from their home. More often than not, this was typically in the middle of the night. I was on a call. Oh, sorry, I was on call from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m.

And one night I was dispatched to collect an old man who died in the middle of the night. By the time I got back to the funeral home, it was 3 a.m. I'd put him into the fridge and I was ready to leave. And as I was getting ready to leave, I set the alarm, the building alarm, to head back home, and all of a sudden the door to the refrigerator room, swung open, and then slammed again very abruptly. Whoa! The door was very big and very heavy, and it would take a lot of power to do this.

I didn't look behind me. I just headed back home, back to sleep, barely slept that night. It's the creepiest thing that's ever happened to me. I've only started telling people about it a year later. He said, the weirdest thing is, I felt the hair rise on the back of my neck when it happened. Oh, yeah. I've got goosebumps just thinking about that. That's good. It's been building up, by the way, into a nice, us- I can't believe it for the next movie. Yeah, yeah.

Here's a quick fact that someone's revealed. Sometimes a fresh quartz gets shaky limbs, meaning it's very hard to put them in a body bag. I did not know that a dead body could start having a volition. A red dancing. Body popping. Rock the planet. There's some electro onto some footage of a dead body moving around. Lots. Don't you think that? Don't you think that? Have you seen that one of bats? Someone's turned it upside down. It looks like they stood up and they put rave music on it.

It looks like the bats are dancing to rave music. No. It's very funny. I did see where they put that new Prince Charles picture. No, not Prince King Charles picture. Yeah. That big, like weird red painting. If you put two of them together and turn them both completely 180 and put them together, you get this form of like a devil with horns. When you get a chance, guys, and you go, look at that picture of King Charles and then look at the cover of Mandy. Oh, really? The poster of Mandy.

They're the same thing except Nicholas Cage and one in King Charles and the other. We should have Nicholas Cage as King. King Cage. We should. King Cage. Wow. King Nicholas the Cage. I think you'd come up with great things to do in England. Oh, right. You know, which one we're going to do? Get rid of trains. Yeah. Bring back many far things. Cool. Yeah. Bring back many hills. Why? Everybody gets an octopus. Okay, the next story is, I'm an osteologist, which means I work with dry human bones.

They don't really generally do that much. But one time, I got the creeps. I was handling the cranium of a woman. And I could hear the wisdom teeth raffling around in her head. Part of it was horrible. They were partially formed and hadn't quite erupted through the gums. Wisdom teeth form when you're about 18 years old. And then they start coming out in your early 20s. I was in about 20 when this happens to me. And it made me realise, fuck, one day I'm going to die.

And my wisdom teeth are going to not rattle around because they've already come out. And then I was a very young woman's head with the teeth raffling around in it, gav. Oh, god. I'm putting on more colourful light comes get pink. Sorry. That's better. Okay. My creepiest moment was when I used to work in the morgue and I was up my own at 4 am in the morning. Straight away, I'm like, I don't want to be there. No. I was using the lift to put a body into the crypt.

It reached about eye level when the power went out. So you're in a lift with a dead body and the power's gone out. So it's so, ooh. Lots, lots, lots going out. It's not, it's not, it's not. It's not a pitch dark. Yeah. I couldn't even see my hand in front of my face. All the fans died, so it got really hot in there. Oh, no. All I could hear was the body bag crinkling a bit as the heat was making the body sort of swell up.

Whatever. And I can hear weird voices in the distance, which were just other people in the building, but it all felt so freaky to me after two hours. Oh, no. The power came back on and I had to carry on with my shift. Imagine it, imagine that power comes back on and the body's not there. Oh, don't. Oh, God. Oh. Oh, we're going to get each other a creeped out for this next movie.

I used to work at a mortuary for a few years and we've got a good method to keep someone's dual shot if they die with a mouth open and the rig and mortars are setting. Super. What you would know, it would actually be you sow their mouth shut from under the chin. Oh, one of the superglue in the mouth shut. Yeah. Yeah, they do use superglue sometimes, but this guy's like, look, the anyway to do this and he pulled out a giant needle. So his boss was showing him the rope.

He was going to put this and he shoved it in under his throat and he sowed his lips up from under his throat. Somehow he knew how to do it. So he sowed his mouth up, but from under his throat. Yeah, yeah. That's quite soft though. Okay. So I took him to Dalton at the end of Hot Farts in the muddled village. Oh, that makes me feel bad. Oh. Yeah. Oh, I'm going to have some ice cream. Yeah. A quick one here. I helped with the nautopsy once. I went and arrived at a woman's house.

No one had seen her for a few weeks. When we got there, her cats had been eating her. Of course it is. Fucking cats. Fucking. I used to work for a funeral home for quite a long time. About a month into my job there, I was working during a bank holiday weekend. The only people around with the transport guys in me, they dropped off a body and they left straight away. They didn't give me a hand over what they normally do. They just said, oh, it's in there, off you go.

So I walked in and there was a person sitting straight upright on the bed. Is that what I didn't help? I literally peed myself a little bit. Then I realized that the guy had died sitting up and the vrigan mortis had sat in. So they couldn't flatten him out and they thought it'd be a funny prank to just leave him sat up on the table. The poor guys had been working there a month. Oh my god. Not good is it? I just had to go over there and just get on hand on one bit and another hand on the...

It'd be like trying to open up on those old edges. It'd be like, I couldn't do it, make me freak out. That's so for bed I used to sleep on at yours. It'd be like trying to undo that, you know, but a body. Then you wouldn't sleep outside knowing that that's how it felt. Here's a good one. My grandma used to work in an ER in Puerto Rico. A guy had passed away so the doctor asked her to prepare the body to go to the morgue. She got some sheets and started wrapping the guy up.

As she crossed his legs, his penis became fully erect and pointed straight up. She wasn't sure what to do. It looked chromatic. She untied the sheets and crossed his legs and his penis went back down. She left it, crossed his legs again, and the penis went straight back up. She tried this two or three more times. I don't know why she's trying it several times. I don't know why. She likes to see that penis go up and down, don't she?

She went and spoke to the doctor and he said, why are we seeing this once or twice before? Basically, the guy's got a prosthetic penis. Every time you're crossing the legs, the prosthetic and the penis is shoving up and making them have a hard on. Wow. Okay. Talk about a stiffie. Yeah. I think I've got one more. Yes, here we go. I was bringing a body to the hospital morgue and I heard it groaning. I already knew that this might be something that happened.

I freaked out a little bit though and I started unzipping the bag to make sure they definitely weren't still alive. As I opened it up, the first thing I saw was the person's dead eyes. They died with their eyes open. So you just unzip the bag a bit and there's just these two cloudy eyes staring at you. Well, it's good. Oh dear. There is one more. Similar to another story. Punched in the balls by a dead guy once. Amazing. I used to work in a hospital's security.

I hope I punched someone in the balls when I'm dead. You can just leave your fist sticking out the ground if you're getting buried. I'm just going to clutch my fist now. Just in case I had that any point die. I want that fist clenched. Well, I was on call one day to move the body and the body's limbs were sticking out at strange weird angles. So I started moving the arms and the legs back into a better spot to fit into the body bag and then get into the fridge. But the arm stayed in place.

So I pushed it back down and when I let go, boom, you hit me right in the face. Out right in the balls. Punched in right in the balls that did. So there we go. That's that's part of the strange. Let's know I didn't want to tell the stories about farting and people waking up saying, I'm not dead yet. We've heard all those. These are just more realistic stories. Things about penises, getting punched in the balls, things we all like. Penises getting punched in the balls, that kind of thing.

From a viewers point of perspective. Yeah. But yeah, some of them are genuinely creepy. I think for me being trapped in the lift with a dead body for two hours. That's pretty creepy and the thing up that does. Yeah. Well, Bill. Bill, take us out of here. You stiff one, do you? That's all the time we've got for this week on War of the Stranger. Next week though, give me iron. Haarless pets. Weird. This is not what I was expecting. Can I see one? No. No. What's that for? Make sure he's dead.

Share it. What happened? No, I'm deep. No fingerprints in the system. For now, she's a Jane Dole. He needs my help right now. 11 o'clock, I'm all yours. Subject is in her mid to late 20s. Hair, brown. Black blood warning down. Nice. Gray? What happened to you? First, a bounder. Then a ripped out her tongue. Poisoner. Paralyzed her. Forster's walled a cloth. Brass on her. Dad? No one could see. What we have seen. No! No! No! No!

Shining. The autopsy of Jane Dole 2016 rated 15 an hour and 26 minutes. It's a horror mystery thriller. A father and son both coroners are pulled into a complex mystery. While attempting to identify the cause of death of a young woman who was apparently harboring dark secrets. What do you mean that the death of a young woman who was apparently harboring her? Who apparently what of the cops come along said, We think she's got dark secrets. How does that not mean? That's wrongly for us.

Anyway, 6.8 out of 10. Good film. Scary, spooky. I watched this when I lived above a funeral parlour and I turned all the lights off. Watched it and it shit me up. Yeah, I don't remember the first time I saw it. I think it might have been going back a bit now. I think I watched it on my own. Really, really, really creeped me out. Yeah, it's a creepy film. It's not a good film. Something about dead bodies in films where they could move any minute, you know. That's one element of it.

It's also very small cast. A single location. The Fundry, Rainy, well, I sat on my night of Rain and Funder. They've got a mission where they've got to get this body investigated very quickly because they want to know. The mystery of circus artist comes in. It's a Jane Doe. Don't you know what's going on with her? She looks body-wise. She looks very good. I don't mean in a sexual way. I mean, like her skin and figure and form and everything. She looks like a very healthy person.

So it's a whole mystery thing. I really like and I'll protagonist of this. There are two people, a son and father who obviously is a business. And yeah, I like it. I think the single location and over one evening with the mission, we need to find this out and get the evidence back to it or the information back to the police. First week tomorrow morning, it's a late night job. We're going to have to get a fur. Come on, let's go. It's great. It's simple. It's brilliant.

The reason it gets under my skin and the similar. And I know you're not as big as fan of the exorcist, but similarly to that, it's very, very, very, very grounded in reality as well. When they start finding things within her body and her organs, it feels so grounded. It makes you as an audience member because you are now discovering the stuff as they discover. Obviously, they've got a medical advance. They know their knowledge of medical procedure more than us.

So they can straight away be able to detect, oh, that kind of eyes for that reason. They obviously have sort of telegraph and give us info dumps of the reason of what's going on and what's happening. But we are seen as they're peeling back the skin, spoilers. We're going to get into what's moving. As they're peeling back those layers, we're discovering that what is not normal. We know that it's obviously not normal. It's just like that moment. It's just like, whoa.

It's creepy and it's, yeah, it's brilliant. And that really is. And like you said, everything as they do is very realistic to what happens. Makes it so much more indulgent for us as a viewer. So the point that when the supernatural elements do start coming in a bit, you start questioning, is this really, were they thinking this? You know, what is actually going on? Now, it feels very, very Stephen King. It feels like this could have been a short novel by Stephen King.

And actually Stephen King, when this was released in 2016, he actually said, this is the scariest film I've seen since Alien. He really liked this film. He said, this is up there for Alien with me for creepingness. I'm going to say hands down. I think I was in the best place ever to watch this film in a funeral home. Yeah, I don't think anyone could have any help in the top of that for this movie. Unless you were those two tenured boys hiding in a casket. Actually, in there.

We're hanging out with some dead bodies like some weirdo. Yeah, yeah. Someone's probably done that. Jesus Christ, you're about to drink for the biggest bottle of Sprite I've ever seen. Why? Oh, right, you knew almost made me laugh. It's not at the end of the bottle. That's why. I know. Yeah, great, great movie. It's a Friday. I've already said this. I know. I've already said this, but this movie for me is one of the scariest films I've seen in a long time. It genuinely gets under my skin.

And for me, when you're talking modern, in the last ten years or so, this and the witch, Robert Eggers the Witch, these two films are up there for me. You know, there are best films. Good double bill. It would be good creepy double bill. This is a very well made film. There are better films. Yeah. This just gets under my skin. The blind cocks, of course, in a milhose, fantastic actors. This has gone off that they've set out to make this film and they've made the film they set out to make it.

I don't think you could make this like such an incredible movie. It's psycho territory or something. I don't think we're ever going to go that with it. But for what you have a available one location, two cast or three cast, it's brilliant. It's really, really good. And I think talking of the director again, I think Andre Overture would like, he likes a challenge. He takes this time as projects, like we said. Now, this is this considering it's a small cast. It was a challenging film to me.

You've got this dead body. So they had to hire a girl who was really good at yoga and meditation because they didn't want to use a fake body for most part. What? I didn't wear that. It's a real girl. She had to lie there and make it in front of this cat film and crew. You know, she had to get into a meditative stage, had to breathe slow enough that you couldn't see her breathing or anything like that. Obviously, when they're cutting her open, that's all prosthetic.

Like so, how hard that would be as... What a challenge. Well, yeah, as when you go to cut, okay, we're going to turn around, we're going to go back to do that again. You know, how hard that is because then they're just going to have to... You can't jump in and out of that meditative stage. You're going to have to stand at meditative stage for hours and hours and hours. So what that's happening, they're setting up again. You would just be still there just doing nothing. Still doing it.

And also, on top of that, the vulnerability you'd feel as a naked woman lying there, you know. I actually don't think so. I actually think... You're taking that role anyway. You know what's going to happen. But I think after a moment, I think that was... If in that meditative stage, I think that whole thing's gone. You won't be bothered about it. The point is... Or anyone's forced on concern. You'd be like, they've already seen me now.

And then what had happened is, you're looking to go, great, boobs, bush, brilliant. After two minutes and you're working, you ain't going to give it shit. And on top of that, the prosthetics and the effects that they use are incredible with this. I don't think so. I think she probably wouldn't be too concerned at a full. And this is... Why you and I like this as well is... This is a mystery. It's a mystery that unravels.

And we're figuring out, as you said earlier, we are figuring this out with them, you know. The lovely thing about this is they've got a big chalk board and they write everything on there. You know, she's got an unusually small waist. She's got this. She's got that. And they're building up this. It's so educating us right on the board as well, being our teachers and we're the students watching. It's fantastic. It's really good stuff. Well, let's get into it. Let's start slicing her up.

They do it. Also, great title for a movie. The top 15 dough. Just simple. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it now. So we start with a really nice wide lens. I don't remember the beginning of it. She's a crime scene for t-shirt. Yeah. I didn't. I'd forgotten. Slowly tracking along. We hit a crime scene. There's blood everywhere. There's a dead body here, a dead body there, here a dead body there, body everywhere. Oh, my God. Oh, sorry. I've been hanging out with kids, you know.

But there are a dead bodies everywhere. And there's the detective looking around who comes back later on. It's only two liters. Why does it look so fucking big? I don't know. It looks huge. That's the next. It's not by the way, we're talking about the sprite again. I'm not two liters of blood. What if he has? I'll two liters, you know. So in this house, in this crime scene, there's not only a dead body everywhere, and dead bodies there's scratches on the walls and on the doors.

A news team show up as they always like to do. Go and distract them. Don't let them come anywhere near here. The usual thing. And then in the basement. In the dirt floor of the basement. They find this half buried naked girl with no ID. Yeah. And the detective says, oh, she's Jane Doe then for now. But it's weird though, because obviously putting her out for her skin and everything and her body and everything is perfect. She looks really like, like, hasn't been on the ground for a while.

If anything, just put in there for moments to go. Yeah. And just put, and just that the cis scene ends. They say it's really weird. It looks more like something he was trying to break out than trying to break in. There's no signs of entry. Which straight away, well, I don't know, because the second time watching this, I know what's going on. So, but say straight away, you're like, oh, it's because she's a witch. And she's going to fuck them up. Yeah, but you don't know if she's a witch.

Do you like initially like, don't you see what she is? No, you don't. She is. She is. So we can discuss in the next. Yeah, of course. Yeah. So she, that's why they're trying to get out. She's a witch. But why is she not earth? Or peat, they bury her, don't they? To keep, what is the peat for? I don't know. It's from the peat is from the town of Salem. It's from the town of Salem where the witch trials were. Well, okay.

So maybe it's kind of like Dracula and fucking Hollywood, do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, they talk about the brain cocks, the heroizes that later on. His character, Tommy. Cool. It'd be not you could make this movie, but make a prequel all around the witch. You could do, yeah. You could do. Cool. Let's talk about Tommy and his son, Austin. Fantastic chemistry, Father and Son. Working as coroners and more. Love writing cocks. He's such a welcome to films.

The fact that he does stuff like this or trick a tree or stuff like that. He's happy to do movies like this. He's not above this. I do like this. He's respected English actor and he's not up his NR. I like that. No. And he works well with the millhush. and they've lost their mother's slash wife two years ago. So that's kind of like a thing that's happening with them as well.

Emile, her, she's kind of secretly planning on leaving the family business with his girlfriend, but he hasn't had the guts to tell his dad yet. Cause you know, it is a bit weird. He works in a coroner's office, but it's a family business as well. He's grandfather, director, etc. We have an autopsy montage. Don't normally say autopsy montages and it's with fun rock music playing. I'm not sure how the father and son are so unfazed to be cutting up.

Yeah, they love, they love listening to rock music while they are chop up the dead. Chop up some bodies, chop up the dead. What a great name for an album. Chop up the dead. I'm right. I keep after that. Right, that'll be from, as podcasts don't have to write a name down. So that's brilliant. All I've got is a bit of cardboard here. I have to keep jotting stuff down on. You're going to write this. What did I say? You could do chop up the dead. Chop up the dead.

Don't write it on the wall in your kids room though. And they come home and they look at them. It's easy to chop the dead. She's probably already written it on it if I paint it over. Yeah, so they take pictures of a very bloody burnt corpse. And then they slice it, they dice it. And he tests his son. He says, right, how did this one die? And he's like, well, obviously, you know, he died of burning to death. And he's like, no, think again. And he's testing him.

He's trying to make him a better, you know, coroner. And he says, ah, smoking installation, inhalation, note, try again. And then it turns out that what happened was this person had a brain hemorrhage while a fire was already starting in their home, which meant that they had to, they collapsed to the floor and then the fire burnt them. But they were already dead from a brain hemorrhage before. So he's been doing it so long, Brian Cox, that he kind of knows his signs.

He's really trying to help his son to be a better coroner. You know, we want our son to be better coroners. But it's the end of the shift. They put the body in the fridge. They see their little cat, Stanley. Yeah. They've got a cat, of course they have. He eats a dead mice lying around the place. Yeah. All right, they live so we know, though, because it's gonna work for later on if it's good for a little tension builder. They, the cat goes through the air vents, like Bruce Willis in die-hound.

So that Bruce Willis doesn't go catching mice. He's trying to get away from European terrorists. Yeah. Bruce, what would you call a cat? To link it to Bruce Willis. Meow hard? No. I don't know. I don't know where I'm going with this. Anyway, look, they've got a really, what's cool about this morg is that they've got this really fucking creepy, round mirror up on the corner of the corridor.

So you can see anybody coming down the other side of the corridor and this will come into play a couple of times later. And it's pretty creepy. You know, the round mirrors I'm talking about when you're driving down the street. You know, and you can see. So it adds a bit of distortion. But anyway, Emma, the girlfriend of Austin, she scares him. Wow. Oh, you're bit. Sure, why'd you do that? Oh, I got you, I got you good. Yes, she did. Come on, show me around. Show me the morg.

I want to see where you were. And he said, oh, no, don't come in here. That doesn't like it. And he says, he actually is quite respectfully. He says, she says, what's his bell for on their toes? And he says, oh, basically, my dad's a bit of a traditionalist, but back in the day, they would tie a bell to their toe so that they weren't dead. The bell would ring and we'd hear it. Now, this is a creepy thing. It's straight away.

It's a lovely set up for something which is going to be really creepy later, isn't it? And we know it's coming in. And it's like, oh, God. Yeah, on the ankle, sorry, not on the toe. But in the back, she says, go on. I want to see one. And he says again, like, respectfully. He doesn't know his dad's there. And he says, no, look, I really don't. Dad says, I'm not allowed to. And then in the back, Grenji here, go on. Pick one. And Brian, I don't know. I did like that. Pick a draw, any draw?

Have a look. Let's have a look then. So yeah, they have a look at their bodies. He says, oh, you wouldn't want to see this one. Why not? The last cat scout. I can't come up with anything. I'll be fucking trying for ages. I can't mix Bruce with us with cats. I'll be trying. I'll go into the last cat scout. I can't do anything else better than that. OK, great. Thank you. That's really good. I like that. So the body she chooses to look at is a gunshot victim. And it's got no face.

It's got a hole in the warehouse face was because he took a gunshot blast to the face. What was she was? She's like, oh, great. This is the best hoping for the one of those. Or was hoping one of her face? What do you want? Like, that's nice. And she asked some questions. And he says, and this is a great little speech. She says, no, no, no, no. We just do the how and we leave the why to the cops. We tell them how they died. The cops find out why. That's all it is.

We don't get any further involved in this. And she pulls back the she and he rings the bell because he's a playful dad and just freaks them out. So the camera cuts with the woman. She goes, OK, call next with the boy fin on that. So we don't see anything. But then we hear straight away, and it's the dad going, oh, he's quite a cool dad, isn't he? But the sheriff shows up with a body. Well, so the dude, I got a date with his lady friend. So he's like, come on, let's go.

And he says, you're right, dad. Yeah, no, I have a Friday night. And it's a thunderstorm coming. They're going to send one. I got a date. And they're heading out. Just they're going out, coming down the elevator shaft. And whoop, shaft. It's the sheriff of a body and stuff. So I don't know why, because his dad says it's fine. Or at this point, he says you could go and he's, but he, I don't know, he feels inclined that I guess it's a lot of work.

But he doesn't know that the sheriff wants him to do it straight away. So he says to his girlfriend, hang on a minute, there's something a bit weird about this one. The sheriff look really worried. Yeah, I think so, yeah. And he said, look, my mom only died two years ago. I do still feel like dad. He's coping. But I better, and she's like, oh, you're going to ditch me for a dead body again. He's like, I'm going to help my dad. And she's like, all right, I'll get it.

And he's like, look, I'll catch the last show in. I'll come and help dad with this. It'll only take a few hours. I'll come back out and meet you later. And we'll do like the midnight screening or something like that. So she leaves. And they unzip the corpse. He says that I'm going to help you with this. So they unzip the corpse. And the cat asses immediately. So straight away, we're like, right, this cat doesn't like what's going on with this dead body. And the cat sees dead bodies all the time.

Yeah. And the cop fills them in. The sheriff says, look, basically, we find her in the dead body. Have buried in dirt. Can't find any marks on her. There were three other dead bodies in the house. She's been prepped. But she is the priority tonight for this crime scene. You've got to do this tonight. Find out how she died, because I need to know. We've got the news teams wanting answers. So it's got to be done tonight. So yeah, it's all very believable.

And they love it the challenge, you know, because I was thinking about this and they're a line of work. They work 24 hours. But it's not often a body's coming in in a small town. They might have a road traffic accident where they get three bodies in a row. They have to work for 24 hours. But then you'll get a few days where you haven't got any bodies coming in, you know what I mean? So yeah, OK, if the cop wants us to do this, we'll work until two in the morning to get this done for you.

It's not a problem. At least today, you never could be at work. Yeah. Florists and funeral directors are always going to have work to go hand in hand. Because I think of another one now, aren't you? Well, I was going to say the food retail business or food retail, you know, food restaurants, etc. That's the trouble. It's like, you have a choice. You don't have a choice when you're dead. You're dead. That's true. Yeah. No choices at all.

And you know, important memory is, if we didn't have memory, we wouldn't know who any of us are every day. We wouldn't even know who we are, where we belong. Who are you? Where am I? What am I doing? So that's why AI. We're not in a simulation, well, James. Right. We can't. Memory stop it now. Memory, memory, having memories, keeping us away from the simulation.

If I, if I, if I, I've pained every time on every episode, you mentioned either AI or simulation, I'd have about 20 pounds at the end of each episode. I know. I'd have a little savings pot. We'll be able to do much with it. But so yeah, so they start the process. So they, they've done this a million times. We get the Dictaphone. This is Dr. Tommy about to start the autopsy of a lady, Jane Doe, did it any sort of, he's telling us the audience, but he's also doing it to the Dictaphone.

And his son is his assistant. So he starts writing up things on the chalkboard, what we said, where there's going to be four parts to this autopsy. We're going to do an external examination, then an internal examination, then the organs, and then we're going to check the brain in that order. So let's get started. So again, like this is a little investigation. You know, we're breaking this down. Let's start with the outside. No marks, no scars, no piercings. They open our eyelids.

They're always like cloudy, but like put it flat, pretty good on the outside. No rig or mortis. They're really confused about that. Yeah. He says to Austin, can you notice anything about her torso? And he says, yeah, she's got a really small waist. Yeah, write that on the chalkboard. OK, yeah, usually a small waist. Now, we find out later on this is because she's very old, and she would have been wearing corsets back in the day. It's interesting.

We get angles are risk of broken, but there's no signs of outwardly that have that happen in. Oh, it's this is where it gets creepy. So basically you pick up and there are totally flimsy arms and feet and hands. But there's no sign, because like we said before, the body's like perfect condition sort of thing. No bruising, no cuts, no marking, no nothing. And they're both really interested in this. You know, Austin's like, that's weird, Dad. Not seen that one before.

Let's write that on the chalkboard. They're really sort of cool. Well, he is, I mean, I suppose. And if you get the same all the time, also, you go like, whoa, like when it comes up different, it does make you start to question. And it's said to us, Dad said to like, don't question. We just give the facts. We don't question anymore. We leave the job here. We go home. We come back. As in, don't go home and think about it.

Yeah. Well, he then starts looking under the toenails and the fingernails and they find dirt. And he says, what's this? And he's like, well, it's not soil. This is peat. And he says, peat. God, where do you even get that? And he says, well, you can buy it from like a garden center. But normally it's up north. Yeah, up north near Salem. But they talk about that later on. But there's nothing in her nose or ears. But they open up the mouth. Oh. And they find a crudely severed tongue.

Well, the butt of a tongue should we say. Yes. And this is now what they've done here is, so they've obviously opened her eyes, now they open her mouth. And as we walk away in the car on the room, we're just left looking at this dead body line there with its eyes and mouth open like it's silently screaming. But then horrible. And then we hear this, and the fly comes out the nose, which doesn't, the sun doesn't make him go, oh, it's just like, probably happens.

It's not really that shocking, but it's creepy. It is very creepy. They do more of this stuff here, I don't know. They do. And they start saying, well, we're going to check her vagina here now, because obviously that's part of the external examination. Just before they do that, they find fabric in the mouth. Just before they cut the vagina, they find the cuts in the vagina. Oh, yeah, that's right. And they pull out some fabric, which is really weird.

And they put it up to the thing, it's like some old, almost tapestry or something, isn't it? With runes and strings to make. Creepy as hell. And inside, it is a tooth. Yes. And then, fundest strikes. And I'm sitting there, first I'm watching this, lights out, going in and above a funeral part, just above their people going, oh, God. Oh, it's just got worse and worse. I loved it. So yeah, it's a molar, a human molar wrapped in this weird tapestry. So they put that to the side for now.

They're writing all this down, you know, they're making notes of it as they go. Then they started doing the examination of her genitals, and they realized that she's got lots of cuts inside her internally. So then they start saying, well, maybe she was in, some sort of sex trafficking, sex trade or something like that. And he's like, yeah, but this looks more like cuts, rather than like terrors from like rape or something. So put it on the board, son. So you write it up there.

Well, well, this has begun on the whole time. Music's been playing on, because they have music playing in the background while they do the autopsy. Because at this point, the radio starts playing a load of random stuff and then changes music. It does. It does. It's a bit, it's a creepiness. And it feels a bit Stephen Kingy again, some of these little, and that's not a slight, you know, that it doesn't feel like they're ripping off Stephen Kingy. It just feels like it.

I love the buildup at this point. I mean, this is what I said earlier in script form. This is your fun and games. Did you just say about the screen that you hear on the radio? No, it just has weird sounds. Because you get this started, and then it sounds like almost like her screen, come through the radio. I swear, which is really weird. Well, he says, right, we're on to phase two now. The internal examination. And he cut a chest right down to a stomach. Oh, like peeling a banana.

Oh, it's when they get the old fucking crowbar thing. Oh, the old chopper's later. First chopper to spines. Oh, it's the take a ribs off. That's the take a rib to it. So they can get to the while I had COVID, I am, I banged out all the sound effects and sound design for Ben's film, which is about 20 minutes. It's quite a lot of sound effects. I thought I'd do that once, Il.

And it's loads of go, loads of go, loads of splashing and fums going in eyeballs and squelching and all sorts of fucking love it. But this, the cracking of spine in here. So... Ah. Yeah. Well, before they do that, they slice her from the chest to stomach and immediately blood pours out of her, which again, this is weird. This is weird, Dad. Shouldn't be. The blood sugar can geely by now. Yes, it is really weird. Take some blood samples. They take some blood samples and we...

Put it in the blood fridge, don't they? But the blood fridge is leaking somehow. Yeah. What have you done, son? Oh, sorry, Dad. I don't know what's happened here. This blood pouring out of the fridge. Let me clean it up. Don't worry. Weird, weird. You're very professional normally. Things are going strange in this morgue. They talk about the waist again, seeming too small. They talk about the core, sit, perhaps. And this is where they get the bolt cutters that is. He uses to clip her...

Crap her ribs. Oh, so this is the spine. The thing is the skin. The thing is the skin. When you start chopping spines for various, like nice horror, but... What I say is... It's done like body horror and stuff, but then sound design, like cracking spines, is too horrible. Now, look at her lungs, son. They're blackened. Oh, wow. Maybe she doesn't look like a smoker. Well, I don't think she is a smoker. Very strange.

It seems to be more of their burn than anything, rather than cancer or smoking cigarettes. And also, she's part of a young... I would expect black lungs like this on someone who's like 70 years old. You'd smoke their entire life. There's no way this could happen from smoking, so they look at that as well. And he says, it's a really good metaphor here, about the lung. He says, it's kind of... This is like finding a bullet in the brain, but with no entry wound. That's what these lungs are like.

And his son's like, oh, so his son's obviously glad. He didn't go on his date. And he's cutting up this dead girl with his dad. You know, it's been exciting evening so far. They take her heart out. And there's weird scar tissue all over her heart and all over her lungs. And when he takes her heart out, the light stops flickering off. Oh. It's a really creepy. And he says, I've never seen this before, but it's like they wanted her to suffer. Yeah. And they can't understand why she's not mangled.

Like externally. Yeah. They hear a noise. Is it someone at the door and Austin goes out to see you? It is. No, it's happening. We keep just getting the strokes of thunder just for sound design and background. Yeah. Oh, God. He sees somebody when he's in the corridor. He sees somebody in that reflective circular mirror. Just stood there. But when he goes around the corner, there's no one there. And he says, I'm going to go to the corner. There's no one there. It's pretty spooky.

Molly's on his own. Brian Cox is on his own. Well, that's not any. And he looks at their body and he says, what happened to you? But his son then listens into the event. And we can see a shape in the event. Oh. And you don't know where this is going. The first time you watch this, you don't know where this is going. No. And even though they've started cutting her open, you're still. I find her quite scary like the body. It's a body which is sitting doing nothing and it's scary.

That's a clever thing to do from a filmmaker and all the crew and cast. Just really well. It's the creep factor in the buildup. That's what it is. And of course Tommy, man, he cuts his wrist a bit on her cut on her sliced rib. Ouch. He's sliced his wrist open. So he has to go over and tend to that. Which again, these are all unusual occurrences. He's never cut himself on a dead person's rib before.

I just thought I saw something moving behind me when we were chatting and I was like, so it was looking around while you're talking. I'm getting creeped out. Weirdly, when you talk about a thunder strike and just now the cable that connects my internet fell down off the TV just because it was resting at a certain angle and it rolled down a bit. And I had to, like, you said, and then the thunder strikes and then the cable moved as you said that. So this build is... I know it's getting me.

I know what I'm saying. I've not got creeped out, then. Well, I've not got my glasses. And I could just see this, because I'm just saying, I'm a little short-sighted. I can see you fine, but my window is really small. But then I was all letting dark behind me, but obviously, didn't it? I think it's probably the headrest of your chair that moves when you swung a little bit around. Yeah, but I'm fine. I'm fine. It was that black thing over here. I thought that was. Oh, I'm getting creeped out.

Alice is the sleep upstairs with the kids. So I'm down here. I've got to lock up the house later. Yeah, guys, it's been a while since we've all got a bit of creeped out. But this film is good. It's good for that. So yeah, Austin is spooked out. You're right. You see something in the air conditioning unit. It jumps out. He falls back on the ground. His dad comes in. And he says, what the hell is happening? I can't figure it's going to fall down. That's a seat. Stop it.

So Austin falls back on the ground as something jumps out of the air conditioning unit. It's dad helps him get up. It's the cat in there bleeding, dying. So what does his dad do, Gav? Just picks up the cat. Yeah. Rakes its neck. Yeah, well, yeah. And they immediately incinerate it. There's no fucking around. They're shooting at rats at the cat. He says, just give me a couple of minutes here. This was the last thing I had of your mother's this cat. And as much of a pain in the ass it was.

It was the last thing I had. So I just need a few minutes to think about the cat. So it's sort of a bit of a trigger in for Tommy and my ghost for Austin in some ways. But they incinerate it. It's not that triggering because he incinerates it. But he used to use the death. So death's not a thing for him. Great shot here of a fly on Jane Doe's eyeball. Just to emphasize that she is dead. It's a nice, nice cutaway. And a fridge door creaks open behind the sun.

Oh, you're getting real creaks out there. It's so horrible. What, it's going to dark out there. And then we'll bomb ourselves here. It's that what's in it. It's what you're doing. He says the door must have not shall it correctly. Some right. All right, let's get on with stage three. I'm going to have to after this going knock on the air being big on next door. So I'd join out. Can you come and look after me? Can you spoon with me tonight? I'm a bit afraid. I'm afraid. Air being big five star.

The kind of story. Boone is big. It's great. Knock on the door for spooning. Don't, don't. So they continue on with stage three, which is examining the stomach. So they open up her intestines. And they pull out a piece of weed, like a flower. It looks like, but it's called the gyms and weed. And they Google it. And if he doesn't Google it, sorry, he gets he's got a book. And a gyms and weed is a plant which can be used to paralyze somebody. It's got paralyzing properties in it.

So he says, so they might have given her that. And then done all this stuff to her while she was led there. Still alive. So they've really, whoever this is really wanted to suffer. Now, while this is happening, the radio comes on again. There's a storm coming in. The biggest storm we've ever seen. It's a thunderstorm. You guys better button down the hatches. Get inside. Don't go anywhere tonight. Don't get on the road. It's an awful storm.

But they carry on because they're, you know, they carry on working. Did you mention the idea about a door that comes open of the dead tree? Yeah, that's when the bit you said you were getting freaked out. Oh, okay. Oh, of course. Sorry. Get some freaked out. And why am. And they start questioning. He starts going back to the tooth and he's like, it's really weird that this tooth and the piece of rag that is wrapped in haven't been dissolved. Yeah. By her stomach acids.

And then he says, I want a minute and he puts the molar in her mouth. And they've made her, whoever did this made her swallow her own tooth. And that's when they start thinking about the rituals. And they think this is, this is like a ritual or some kind of sacrifice for something. It's a sacrifice. Yeah. The radio starts talking about the background. This is storm. Bad. You're not going anywhere. And I was like, this is, this is a gaff movie, brilliant.

They start discussing, well, how in earth did all this internal damage happen with no external signs of tool? And what they're doing that a song comes on about the devil. Don't let the devil in. And it's like, why this is, it's getting creepy. Why is that song coming on? But is that song then good, good ghosts warning them to not carry on? For me, it's like the exercise, anything that does with the real like talk of the devil or something like that.

It just gets to me because it makes me think, if I watch this film, I'm letting the devil potentially come and get me or something, you know, or a demon or something. I don't know. That sounds mental, but trust me, it's been really gets on the most skin. Austin thinks that dad, I think we should go. He's like, let's be realistic here. This is a storm coming. There's some weird, we've got to go.

But also, there's some weird shit going on here, dad. Like we both experienced like the cat's died, the fridge doors are opening. We're both men of science, but something strange is happening here. And we, I think we should go and he said, no, come on, we've got a job to do. Let's do this. They find after peeing some of her skin off tattoos inside her skin. I didn't explain the way they do this. This is what really made me go, oh no, they just made it open up and they open up like a book.

Left and right, the skin. And as they do that, we find tattoos underneath skin. How is that possible? It's not what the fuck. And it is for me extremely creepy to first time I've watched this. You've taken the words right on my mouth. This was the point where it's a pinnacle. They've been way up so much and that's just like, oh my god. Because up until this point, swallowing a flower, swallowing your tooth, breaking your bones without any external damage, all of that maybe could be explained.

But this is impossible. How can this happen? It is actually that. The fact that you can't tattoo inside someone. You can't do that. And then they hear a loaded noise. The lights go out. They turn on a torch and loads of bodies have fallen out of the fridges. Oh, god. And this is the body. All the bodies have gone now, haven't they? And this is the point where the dad, Tommy says, let's get the fuck out of here. The dad is actually the one that I've seen now. The generator comes on.

The generator comes on. So at this point, this is great. Amps up this film straight to weight. For fact, it's two people in one location, and they're dead bodies. But the Jenny comes on, and they're just like great. It's a bit of a, like, let's get the fuck out of here. But they can't get outside the door, like that. The hatch, which is above them, because there's a tree fallen on it. So they're stuck.

So the only other way he goes to the lift, and obviously they probably didn't try to want to try to lift, because obviously an electric's out is silly things to do. It's dumb. Going out the way they're going to go makes sense. But they can't. The storm's not to tree on top of it. There's a stuck down there, theoretically. But they do try to lift.

And what's great about this film now is I love it in horror films, where something like a vampire or in this film, a dead body doing something, where the people don't, where they just accept it, and they're like, they accept the situation. This is fucked. Let's get out of here. You know, they're men of science. They're not like in some films, they'd be like, oh, let's go in down in the basement. And see what it is. No, they're like, no, this is a weird situation. Let's go.

You know, a bit like when George Clooney says, I don't really believe in vampires, but what I've just seen with my own two fucking eyes is a vampire. So there's only one thing we can do here. You get in creeped out. No, I thought I heard thunder. Jesus Christ. So they head down the dark corridor, like you said, and they hear a noise. And it's dad just has run. Let's run. And they start running. They locked themselves in an office. And they acknowledge this situation is totally fucked.

We don't believe in this stuff normally, but this is pretty creepy. So Tommy tries to call the sheriff, but the line cuts out before we can say much more than you need to get over here now. There's Jane, do you brought in? But then just to bring out the creep factor, more, we hear the bell from the foot tags of the dead people. Yeah, go in. Yeah, ankle bells start screaming. Oh, God, I don't need this now as well. And it's pointing like, oh my God.

So Austin gets down on his hands and knees and he looks under the gap of the door. And we get a few seconds and then a barefoot walks past. And it's a dead body's foot. And this film is just getting creepier and scarier as it goes. It's doing a fantastic job. The door starts shaking and banging. And then the sheriff is trying to get the door down. And then he says, I don't know what's going on. I think it's her dad. It's her and Tommy says, we've got to be logical son.

And he's like, yeah, but there's logic and then there's what's going on here tonight. Someone grabs Tommy and pulls him out of the room. Austin breaks the door down. And his dad has been injured at this point. And he said, I don't know what it was, but it had gray eyes, whatever did this to me. And they realize, you know, they say that this is way past possible, but to quote the film, this is way past possible, but it's happening.

So we got to get back into the main morgue and we've got to finish this all topsy. Because this is the only way to, you know, we don't know what is happening here. So they go back in and everything they've removed from the body is instantly decomposed. You know, because we find out later, she's hundreds of years old. Yeah. And it's just instantly decomposed. Rapid decompression. Decomposition. Decomposure. I don't know what it's called. Decomposition. He said like something on, he would say.

He says, right, let's get it to the crematorium. They're going to burn her. They're going to burn this, this witch bitch. Bit of a shining moment now. Austin has to wax the door down. And for the slit in the door, we see a dead face with sewn up eyes and mouth screaming at him. So he says, fuck it. He pours liquid on the dead body, Jane Doe, lights her up, but she doesn't burn. The room does. Instead, everything in the room catches some fire.

Yeah. And we get this amazing score coming at this point just to really build this out. I didn't think they'd get any eye for this could be an issue, but they do actually manage to put the fire out. Yeah, yeah, he puts it out. No change to the body whatsoever. No, not brilliant. Nothing at all. If anything, we as an audience realize that her eyes are now no longer cloudy. Yep. That's the one thing if you notice. So they decide they think that they're lips working again.

So the power is probably coming back on from the generator. So they make a run for it, but they just about missed the lift of the door in the door shut. And then they hear a bell ringing again coming from around the corner. And it seems to get in closer and closer. They see the rest of the bell man coming. Oh, so creepy. Tommy slices it with an axe, doesn't he? Yeah. As it gets closer to them. And this is heartbreaking though, because they realize that it was actually Emma.

There's break that there's to the scene a bit more. They run into the lift, they manage into lifts and they go shut the lift. They can't shut the doors jammed for some reason. Oh, fuck. And then we'll send the thing comes closer. And lots of fashion back and forth. And they know what's coming. It's a creepy man. Oh, but it's bell ringing. So Ryan Cox has got the axe. Goes up. FAM! Straight out to it, because they know it's obviously a dead body wandered around. It's not.

No. But how did she get in there? Did she come down the elevator earlier? Well, he told it to come back for him later. She, I didn't think I could think of. She came down, then the lights power out. And she was running around the corridor trying to find her him. That's what I'm thinking. Either way, his dad has just killed his girlfriend with an axe. Yeah, that's not good. That's a problem. Not good. No. It really moves. This fit our notes. We're going for this review really quick. Our notes.

This film really moves for just a second. It's an hour and twenty minutes. It's six minutes of credit. It's very good. Very good. Tommy breaks down in cries. Obviously, you know, they do get in the lift though. And he says, it's my fault. I told her to come back. And then this triggers a conversation about losing his mum. Slash, Brian Cox, his wife. They've never really talked about it too much. She seemed to dive some sort of illness. Probably cancer or something like that.

And it's a bit a little bit a little small emotional, but it all works. It doesn't take anything away from the film. And then Austin says that. I want to know one thing. Why hasn't she killed us yet? Yeah. And he says something in her doesn't want us to. There's something in her. She doesn't want us to find. So let's try and figure this out. Let's do what we do, which is figure out how someone died. Let's do this. So they head back in. I've put in brackets. I would not do that.

But they go back in to finish the autopsy. When they go in there, though, someone stabs Tommy quite a lot in a very smoky dark room where there was a fire on here. So they locked themselves in the morgue room. It's not weird just to shoot when it's a dead body. So tax bar corpse. They're just cracking on. Yeah. They've got to get on. But I mean, they're tax bar corpse. He's like stabs. It must be a step by corpse. Yeah, isn't it? Yeah, it's got to be. They continue the autopsy.

Now they scalp her. They removed the top of her head. And they came at the top of this. The brain, the brain looks normal. Oh, yeah, very normal brain. Except. Let's do a next exam in the brain tissue under the microscope. Let's put this under here. This is an interesting development. What the fuck? What is it? Look at this. It's a live. The cells are still alive. She's still alive. And this for me again is a nut. There's been so many points, but this was another what the fuck.

So they could have brain out of, or no, they've taken some of the brain, haven't they? But they've removed her heart. They've removed her lungs. Still, they've cut her open. And somehow she's still alive. But then they realize that that material was folded open. It all up and it's a Bible passage. And they look it up and it's from the year 1693, is her date of birth, is the year she was born. And she is a witch. And they realize it relates to a witch.

So they then tie it all in with the peat, which is found in New England. She's a 17th century witch that's been brought in still alive. And they've been sliced and are open. And he says to her son, we cannot deny what we're seeing here. And maybe the ritual, this is a bit of a weird part of the story where they say, maybe the ritual was done on an innocent, which then made her into a witch. I kind of lose track of this bit a little bit. I don't really think that was a great bit of the story.

But whatever, it doesn't matter at this point. The film is so incredibly scary. But he says to her, because she felt all of this, while she was still alive, all those years ago, and what we've done to her today. She now wants us to feel everything she felt, which is why we're feeling, you know, someone stabbed me earlier, you know, I've lost my girlfriend, the cat's died, all this kind of stuff. And it's revenge. And he says, the perfect line here. He just looks at, he says, this is her revenge.

This is her ritual. And it's just a really creepy moment. At this point, something tries to break the door down. Tommy Whispers to the corpse. Don't hurt my son. Please don't hurt my son. That's all he's got left. He doesn't even have his cat anymore. It's just got his son. He stares into her eyes. And then his ankles and his wrist snap. Snap, snap, snap. And he falls to the floor. And there's blood sucked back into the box with the witch's body, the window's body, while this is happening.

So everything she does to them, she's slowly regenerating. Yeah. He's got the gray eyes that she had then. Her eyes are very normal now. We hear some stabbing sayings. But you can't see anything stabbing him. But I'm guessing his internal organs in his heart are all being sliced up. Maybe even his like genitalia. Maybe he's having something happen to it like Khrush did. And he dies. Because Austin finds him and says, dad, dad, he's like, just kill me.

And he kills his own dad with a scalpel to put him out of his misery. Yeah. And the radio comes back on. And they hear the sheriff calling. Guys, can you hear me? We're trying to get you out of there. That there's a tree blocking the door. We're coming to get you out. Now, at this point, Austin is looking like a psycho. Because when they come in, he's killed his dad with a scalpel. His girlfriend's dead with an axe to the throat. There's dead bodies all over the place.

Even the cat has been incinerated. It's going to look like he's a bit of a convent normal baits, really, at this point. Yeah, it doesn't look good. But then the sheriff starts singing. And it's not him. Because we then hear the ankle bell ringing. And she's playing with, she's playing with Austin. Tommy comes back from the dead briefly for a quick jump scare. Austin falls down over the balcony. Dead. So he's dead now as well. Yeah. And the morning time comes and the cops show up.

And the radio saying, well, we've had the fantastic weather for the last five days. And that's set to continue. No sight, no talk of any thunder or anything like that. So it was all orchestrated by the witch, all this thunderstorm. And the sheriff comes in. What the fuck happened here? They're looking around. And the sheriff says, right, this is exactly how we found her. We found her. To start with the movie. Their bodies everywhere. Yeah. I don't care. Get her out.

He says, get her out of my can see. I don't want to know anymore. Get her to the next can see someone else can deal with it. Because she's at this point. She's in pristine condition like she was when they brought her in. Now the sheriff to him. They have not done an autopsy on her. But we've obviously watched the her slice her, watched them slice her a bit. There would be some documentation. You got the blackboard. I just got the sort of recordings that they were doing as well.

So he could start looking at. That's very true. That's very true. I didn't think of that. But yeah, they move her. And they say we've got the other bodies as well. So all the body bags are just like that. Well, so all the body bags are tucked in the back of a truck. And the last thing is a cop driving along with the bodies in the back of the car. Some static comes on the radio. Spooky song about the devil again. Yep. And she briggles her big toe when we hear a bell.

It's such a brilliant ending as well. It's so good. Everyone dies. It's all deaf. But the thing is, Gab, this is a genuine, a genuinely scary film. Oh, yeah. And I've watched this half a dozen times now. Yeah. It's a scary film. It's not often I say that. You know, I've watched a hundred, a thousands of horror films, honestly. But not many of them I would say are scary. But I put this up there with which exorcist for a genuinely scary films that linger and stay with me.

You know, it's sort of film that you turn out the lights, you run up the stairs. You don't look behind you. Yep. You know, we've got a bit of freak tech talking about this. You know, it's a fantastic film. And this is the best thing that Andre Vajon has done in my opinion. I haven't seen the voice of the Dmitry yet. I'm excited to check it out. But this is phenomenal filmmaking for everybody involved. This is better than that. But, you know, I'd say this is the best film he's done so far.

And I would probably put this in my top 100 horrors of all time. Probably in my top 10 scariest films of all time. It's just phenomenal film. And it gets better with every watch because you forget all the tiny little creepy details that they find as they go through. That's very creepy. Definitely. I hope you've seen it guys. If you haven't, do watch it. We have told you the whole plot, though. Unfortunately. Right. Thumbs up for me. Yeah, thumbs up for me.

But last thing I would say is this film's got balls. Yeah. Because it's not a witch. And a film about a witch shouldn't really be that scary. But the way it's done, it's very original. I've never seen it done like this. It's very opening up as it goes. It's a mystery and it opens up and unfolds into terror. It's brilliant. Right. This is awesome. Out of here in Kampai. Okay. That's not just going to say that's the witch, but it's not. It's the autopsy of Jane Doe. Goodbye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. And we're back. We're back again to say goodbye. I'm very the same. I'm all right. Oh, yeah. So not a lot to talk about with Andre Overdoh. Because he's a very private man as we mentioned. But he's definitely made some absolute crackers. These two, particularly Trollhunter and autopsy of Jane Doe, particularly autopsy of Jane Doe, fantastic film. So that was another director special. So that was episode 155 in the camp done and dusted. Well done.

Yeah, yeah, are you wondering something or you wondering what's... What's coming next, Dan? What's coming next? Next, next. Well, our next episode is episode 156. It's a... A big picture. A big picture. Very excitingly our newest patron Dante. It's his first go at picking a couple of movies for us. Oh, splendid. What are we doing? He selected. 1962 cult classic Carnival of Souls. Okay, interesting. Which many people say inspired, well, Romero himself said it inspired elements.

Night of the living dead. And a few other bits and bobs. Weird you're wearing T-shirt. And he seems like he's on Beast. Sorry, yeah. He's on Beast. And he's also paired that up with a film that not many people have seen, I've seen, I've seen, I've seen, but he said he caught on Prime once. And that's cult. C-A-U-G-H-T. He caught on Prime. He caught on Prime. He got caught watching cult on Prime. So many of you used to say I saw Saul over there. I saw Saul. See, did you see Saul?

Yeah, I saw Saul. Did you see what you saw Saul? Yeah, I see Saul. I see Saul. No, I saw Saul Seed. For anyone that doesn't know, well, I'll give you a very brief notice. This cult is about a couple who are interviewing somebody in a house. And that's as much as I'll say. It all goes a bit crazy and weird apparently. So he said it's, it might not be for everyone, but he really enjoyed it and he would like us to cover it. So more than happy to do that.

And just to say, obviously, it doesn't mean that we may not like your films. And if so, we will say how we fill the films. We don't always like every film. What Dan does. I don't. Not every film. No, no joking. But yes, so we will be honest with it. So please don't be disappointed with the patrons. If sometimes we are not into your films, it's just where it is. Yeah, but we'll be checking those two out. And then after that, it will be episode 157.

And to kick off this time of the summer, we are going back to Camp Crystal Lake for Jason for the final chapter. And Jason, five, a new beginning following on our summer tradition. Yes. And so brilliant stuff. Lots of boobs and smoking weed and Jason hacking and slicing, Dyson. Love it. Love it. Great stuff. And then after that, episode 158, it's a Wes Craven director special. We've done one in the past. We covered Nightmare on Street and Scream.

This time we are covering the original Hills of Eyes from 1977. Which is quite a summary film. Vacation. It is actually a hot film. Yeah. And we are pairing that up with another hot film because everyone in it seems really hot all the time. I think there is a bit of a heat wave. And that is 1991's. The people under the stairs are very weird. The wonderful film. Being rings, isn't it? I've not seen that movie before. Many a year, but I did watch it. Lots as a teenager. I've got it on VHS.

I love to take it out and watch my VHS for that one. So yeah, that's what's coming up next. A patron pick followed by a couple of Jason movies, followed by some Wes Craven. So you're in for a treat for the next three episodes, listeners, lovely listeners. Thank you. Thank you to everybody for listening and supporting and sharing and joining him with us. I will now do our little bit of housekeeping before we say our good nights and goodbyes. So we are the podcast on haunted hill.

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Oh, it's a good night for Brian Cox, slice and indicing your girlfriend up in front of you with an axe. Dan, I know you're sorry, but wow. Sorry, son. It's a good night for me. And it's a good night for me. Good night. Good night, everybody. Stay safe and listen. If you find a dead body and it farts, it's normal. It's just a smell worse. Oh, a dead body fart. Oh, I don't like smells. Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. Good night. Hang on. Can you hang on? Can you hear that?

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