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H!TITDS - Puzzle (1974)

Jun 13, 20241 hr 12 min
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Darren Burrows joins Richard to discuss Puzzle AKA L'uomo senza memoria, a giallo from 1974. So, gas up your kitchen chainsaw because... well, just because!

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Before we talk of other things, who the hell am I? I'll tell you who you are. You're a dirty son of a double-crosser, a stupid con artist, who thinks he can pretend that he's lost his memory. I'll get it back for you. No, hold it, hold on. You got it back already, have you? Everything is ready, my darling. You're not being afraid. So we'll be together again. This fairy would chase his bride's ale.

Hello and welcome to Hello This is the Doom Show. I am Richard, folks. I'm very excited because the stars have aligned. And I finally got a long time talking about we're going to do this one day person. And here they are. It's Darren Burrows. Hello, Darren. Hi, Richard, how are you? Great, great. Glad to see you.

I have been looking forward to this, which we finally got the date together a few weeks ago. And you mentioned what film to do. And I was in two minds. I think I gave you two or three films. But now the one we settled on, which we're going to cover today, I'm really excited to talk about. Oh, yeah, big, same, big, same. And this is puzzle from 1974. It is a duke yo to sorry joint. And it's the Italian title is La Womo, Sensa, Memorial, directed by duke yo to sorry.

If that name is familiar to you, G allo fans out there, it's because he directed the bloodstained butterfly and also death occurred last night, which is recently just come out on the blue right. Yeah, that one I need to be in a good headspace for because it's so sad. I've never seen it. So is it kind of like a police type film? It is absolutely a, I consider it a G allo for sure. It is just a gut punch.

Okay. So I just bought the blue race. So I'm looking forward to watching that because I've had that film for so long on such a rubbish copy. Yeah. It's definitely a issue. I think you'll enjoy it, but yeah, just be prepared. Would you put it on a par with the bloodstained butterfly? You know, it's been so long since I saw the bloodstained butterfly. I would literally watch them both again to answer that question because it's been so many years.

I don't know what for me, but I remember really liking that one. Like some of the stuff in that, like you get like an agental style kill without giving anything away and then you've got, I think it's like a court drama part as well in some of it. That's the part I remember less fun. Yeah, yeah. But I think it works. I think everything works in that film. Yeah, but this one though, I think it's just, well, I can't wait to see your views on this one.

Right. Well, I'm going to play a very long trailer. This is a, it's a good trailer. It's in English, which is, you know, sometimes tough to find with a yellow, but it's in English. It's just a very long trailer. So let's get this thing out of the way here. It's like I was born eight months ago in that clinic where I woke up. But who am I? Who? The doctor says I'm scared. Scared of what I'd remember.

Your name is Ted Walden. You were born 30 years ago here in Jolly Olding in the Brockhurst in Kent. He lived here on the continent and in New York. You got married two years ago to an American married. Well, then buddy boy, you tell me whether it's a bad old set up. It's from my long lost husband. He disappeared in London. This means they set up our meeting. And whoever they are, they kill us.

It has to be the work of the saddest or madman, I think. No one in the right mind would do anything like that. I'll kill you if you even try to bring Sarah into the... Well, that's a good start. You're getting back at a character again. But who am I? A dirty rotten bastard. Let's put kid in a round. The stuff. Where is it, buddy? Stop it. No more, please. I want looks like a big string of sauce. Don't! Now, please.

I'm not going to give you a white sauce. When I said I was going to kill you in five days, I wasn't killed. Five days. This is where I give you yours, Ted. Do you remember what does it mean? Try to remember, Ted. You've got to remember. Before we go any further, we're going to spill this thing and, you know, with the dialogues. You definitely don't want the ending beforehand. Right.

And especially one that's this good. Here's the plot synopsis from IMDB. And Amnesiac Man and is a strange wife restart their romance. Only to find themselves hounded by unscrupulous figures from his past life. The aforementioned Dukio Tissari. He also co-wrote this with someone named Roberto Infaskelli.

Yeah, you said it better than I would. Oh, man, I'm trying. He wrote my wife's absolute favorite Italian film, Night Train Murders. Hey, Leetta. What's in that? Don't you like Night Train Murders? Oh, man, I love that film. I know I know likes for a female is quite a hard film to watch. Yes. That's the one when anyone asks her like what is the least favorite thing I've ever shown her. She always brings that one up.

I don't like how it is well, but for me that's surprisingly that would be in my top kind of 10, 15 movies of all time, which I don't know if that says a lot about me, but. Not for those type, you know, the really Iki scenes in it, but all the other stuff I love. That's dude, he also produced two things, the Sunday woman, which is really good. And also Dupio Delito, AK double murder, which is also funny that that's both those have some nice comedic elements to them that I really enjoy.

I think the murder weapon in the Sunday woman took me by surprise a little bit. Very much like the sister of Ursula, like in terms of what a weird double feature like yeah, yeah, I can't have the comedy took me out a little bit of the Sunday woman. I didn't really like it that much. You can't not, you know, not see that at the end in this body.

Yeah, very silly. I enjoyed it. Another guy who wrote this was Bruno D Geronimo, which I'm like, is that Italian Geronimo? I love it. I would have never I've never come across that name as an Italian name before. Yeah, yeah. Love it. He wrote the weapon, the hour of the motive, he wrote what have you done to Salange and wrote paranoia, the Carol Baker as a race car driver moving. That's great. You know, sat a film and he's wrote really telling you I've been dying to rewatch that one good stuff.

Oh, yeah, is that the one on the land, deep box set? I think it is. Yeah, absolutely is. Yeah, as far as this cast, it's led by a Santa burger, who is just absolutely gorgeous. And then she plays Sarah Grimaldi. She was in a French G allo that I know I've seen called diabolically yours. Okay. Yeah, I don't know much. I like, I mentioned it just because I've seen it. I don't remember enough about it.

Yeah, 1967 film. Yeah, that's when I've gotten all file on. We've sort of about our fear when we have a files we go on, hard drives and stuff. I've got that but I've never watched it. I think I may have the service as well for it. Hopefully. How about you do her husband for a strange husband, who's named Ted a K. A. Peter is played by the one and the only Luke Miranda. Oh, man, Luke Miranda, what a joy. He's done so much great stuff for G allo and crime films.

He's he's a bit of an acrobat. He loves to jump and kick people or jump and tackle people or just something he has the best fight scene ever in torso. Oh, my God. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, dude. He's kind of Italian royalty. I'd say. Yeah, things of actors. Good call. I want to say he was he was talking about injuring his back a bunch of times doing these crazy stunts in a documentary.

I forget. I don't know if that was him or not. It probably was though. No, that's saying to me. Right. Yeah. Because he was alive up until at least a few years ago. I'm not not sure if he started recently. Maybe. Yeah, definitely alive because he was doing interviews up till I you know a few years ago. But that's saying to burger she started in the testament of Dr. Mabous.

Oh, really? A little film. Yeah, I was reading up and she's also in Sherlock Holmes and the dad in necklace with Christopher Lee. 62 as well. You know, I still haven't seen that. I look forward to watching the scene. Not no, but I'll tell you absolutely why you're dressed. Yeah. So next up is Danielle, although I am going to call him Ryan Hart because that's how they kept referring to him in the movie.

This is Umberto or Sini who was in what I think is a great actress ripoff called the Antichrist. Oh, I've never seen that one. Not sell bit of the Matina. Yeah, it's a little overly long. But I never notice that it's long. It's it's so weird. And over the top as you know, as actresses ripoffs can be right might make to actually loves that. Nice. Nice. Everyone I spoke to loves that. But he was actually in I was going to ask you about this film. A Jarlo called into rebound.

Oh 1968. You see that one. Yeah. I think you may have died when you put in the book. I'm trying to remember it. Oh, it's a really weird one. Yeah, it's it's very the tone is very mysterious. It's got the dude from watching me when I kill in it. Yeah, that's it's a very strange film. It's definitely a wee bit pretentious.

Okay, yeah, that's what I've always wanted to see. I'm never got rain to it. Yeah, it's definitely not bad. It's just weird. Thank you for calling. Thank you for picking up on that. I had no idea he was in that.

It's weird that some of these, you know, actors and you kind of look at their filmography's and you think, you know, I wish I, you know, checked that out, you know, went out the chance and some of the early Jarlo, some of these actors that done is like morning, boggling when you think about it. Yeah, this this 60s was just nothing but as soon as they got over the whole spy film thing. I never liked spy films, the bond rip offs that much.

No, as they wanted to get into those thrillers, which were always, okay, not always 90% of the time were inheritance schemes. Or, hey, my rich husband sucks. You're my lover. Help me kill him. You know, right. That's what I'm a little lazy started. Then really, didn't he?

I've got the old fashioned kind of what I really all gentle took to another level. You know, with a black killer. But then I don't mind some of the, you know, I know a lot of people that don't like the lazy ones that the early lazy ones. Yeah, but I, you know, you've got one on top of the other as well. Fultchie similar to, you know, I look all in as well. But it took me a while to warm to some of them. But now I can watch them all day long.

Yeah, as you get more obsessed with the genre, you're going to be watching stuff that you've never bought. Like I'll watch a, I'll watch an Italian film that was released around the time of the Jali. That can be almost any genre like if it's an urban setting. I'm into it. If it's like 1971 urban setting, even if it's just a drama, I'll watch it just to accidentally get that yellow vibe from it.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, exactly the same because I recently watched Lucio Fultchie's four of the apocalypse, I'd never seen it before. Wow, nice. Dirk absolutely thinks it's a masterpiece. I was kind of disappointed a little bit, but I will say now I've let the film process in my mind a little bit more. I think I'm going to go back to it and love it because everyone I speak to just sings this praise is all the time. I just don't think I was expecting the film it was.

Yep, that's what I mean. I had the same exact reaction where I was like, wait, what is this? Like, oh my okay, it's this spaghetti western by Fultchie. It front loads a lot of violence in the beginning and then it goes on a journey. So it's a journey film. Yeah, and I did not expect that at all. And yeah, I think you and I probably had the same initial reaction and then in hindsight, it's like,

oh, there's something special there. Yeah, second time you think, yeah, but I'm Thomas merely on as well as one of my favorite actors in that. Yeah, nice. He's amazing. So next up in the cast is Anita Strenberg, another geolo queen, and it just unbelievable. She, this is my favorite thing. She plays an American and her character's name is Mary Kane.

American American. Oh, no, yeah. I know enough. I know we'll come on to the actual film, plot and all that, but I would love to see you know, a little bit more. Yeah, yeah, I forgot when the first time I saw it, like I forgot that her character shows up earlier, I had only remembered her with the car scene. Yeah. And I thought it was so bad that they had just had her in that one moment completely forgetting I'd seen her and the rest of the movie. I'll be honest, you know, not a lot.

I mean, I don't think we even have her listed in our key scenes. Oh, yeah, probably not. Yeah, she's in it. And we've got Bruno Karazari as George George is our heavy in this movie, one of one of a couple of heavies, but this guy seven blood stained orchids and that's just a tip of the iceberg. He was in a hundred and 103 things. Wow. He was a huge and strange voice of the psychic. Yeah, I was both she because he was actually in for the apocalypse. That's what brought it to my mind.

And then he teamed up with him again for the psychic. Yeah. Nice. Nice. Yeah. He's great. I always love him. Oh, man, he's eating a few crime films as well. He also did a Mario Barber film Roy Colton Winchester Jack, which I've never seen. Yes, I have seen that years ago. That is a very strange movie. I was like one of those.

I think it was another one of those. He was a hired gun like the director dropped out last minute and he had to take over. Okay. Yeah, it's really cheap. It is like thread bear. Right. Is that like a let's know what is a western. He's absolutely a western. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Tom Flai. He is in this as Dr. Archibald T Wildgate. Tom Flai. He was in tons of stuff. The movie I always think about him first is Nightmare City. Yes. Yes. He has the funniest character arc in Nightmare City.

I want to say he's like the military science officer and they're like, hey, military science officer go study this weird disease. And he's like, I'll be right back. And then the next time you see me, so fucking gurney is dead from the disease. Yeah, that film is wild, man. Nightmare City. I have so much fun watching that. I remember being so disappointed in that movie the first time.

It was not what I was expecting. It was not what I wanted. And then I rewatched it. It was when Jeffrey and I did an episode on it way back like episode. It was like the second episode. Jeffer was on on the show. So like, you know, 10 years ago. That was my second viewing was for the podcast. And I loved it.

And if we had a film can do that though, you know, you watch it first time. Don't like it. Go back. Give it a bit of time. And then you think, well, it's like doing like, you know, with our drugs. I mean, oh, by the help. And I like it the first time. And that one's had a complicated Blu-ray history because like the the rarer video Blu-ray. It looked good, but the color timing was off.

So a lot of the the bright colors were kind of yellow. So it was it was a sharp image, but then it wasn't the right color. It looked off. And then arrow video did a Blu-ray of it. And the copy they had was damaged like print damage. I remember chemical damage on it because it was looked like it had been left out in a toilet for a while. It was so bad. Yeah, yeah, probably the best we're gonna see. Yeah, you need a mixture of the suit the cavalry, but I believe I have to have both.

But I mean it's not me city, you know, I'm glad to be watching it. Look at that. You know, with the damage and drawing me give it that growing days feel, you know, working in favor, talking to me. Nice. I don't recognize Philip Philip is the first guy is going to show up in harass look more in this character is going to harass Peter AKA Ted. But yeah, using a bunch of stuff. If I've seen him in something else, I don't remember. And then can you miss him type of thing? Exactly.

Yeah. And we got Carla Mancini, the the the chameleon. She was, I don't even know who she is in this movie. She's that lady that was in the union, the Italian actors union. And so she has to be someone from that union has to be in your movie. So you get like kickbacks from that union. And then you get a broad to help you to produce, which is why she was in 241 movies. Wow. Yeah. And I always forget what she looks like. And then I always forget what character she played in the movie.

I can't remember lock out if she is in this. Exactly. But look at her credits. It's crazy. It's completely insane. Like every genre she's just popping up as made or whatever. And then you get a kind of tax scam, so I mean, look at exactly exactly. Last but not least, Dorillo, Chrussiani is Luca, our special boy character. He is a child that lives near, he lives next door to, to Sarah's, sent a burger's character Sarah. And he has decided that she's going to marry him when he's old enough.

And he's very creepy. They're relations. Yeah. But it's not her. She's not like encouraging. She's not exactly discouraging it, but she's not making it worse. He's just like in love with his lady. It's it's whatever. But he was in don't torture a duckling as one of the kids. Yeah. And he was in a camp, placed a name off hand, but he was in one of Lanzi's crime films. We Thomas Milan as well. Oh shit. Syndicate say this. And that's a great film because he plays a similar role.

I mean, you know, the little kid, you know, he's kind of on his own thing. I actually think it's dubbing in this is worse. Well, I'm going to say this. It's worse than Bob from a H. What's the matter? Yeah. I mean, just the moment he comes on screen with his. And do you know if that was his real voice? I don't know. I can't be. I would be shocked if that was his real voice. It is horrible, man.

It's horrible. I think he did. He did have a similar vote. I might have the same voice actor when he did that. Syndicate say this as well. Oh, man. That kind of makes you think whether it was his body. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe he wasn't busy. You know, right. Yeah. Yeah. Did he go to know if he went on to make any more films when he was older or anything? I think he stopped. I think he got past it. Last credit was in like 1980 or something like that.

That surprises me because, you know, obviously, you pop on the voice. I think he's a decent little actor. Oh, he's not. Yeah. From what I've seen him in. Nice. All right. Let's dig into this plot here. This film opens up with our pal Peter, as we call him in the first part of the film here. He is an amnesiac and he's at his psychiatrist's office who is played by Tom Falehi, who honestly, if he's your therapist, you're in big trouble. That guy. He's not dead. Oh, yeah.

Tom Falehi's freaking character's name is Dr. Archibald T Wildgate. The most like elaborate name ever. Longest name you could ever. But I'll be. Oh, man, put him in Mary Kane in a room together. And he could be friends. So ridiculous. He gets reunited with his old friend, Philip. Philip has contacted this therapist and he's sort of got this big reunion to help good old Peter. Remember.

Let's remember each other, right? This doesn't work. But in order to continue this therapy session out in the world, Philip follows Peter back to his place. What happens when he and Philip are alone together? I mean, it's crazy because when they first initially meet, you think, you know, he knows this guy from somewhere and they're going to get on him. And then he would perhaps friends. But once they just get in this room, this Philip just freaks a just as pension him.

And it comes from nowhere as well, you know, it's not really a fight. I mean, it's just a one punch thing in it. And it's crazy because while this just happened this all happens. There's like a gunshot goes off and this Philip guys like shot dead through a window open window of Pizzoum. It is crazy. And that's like kind of, you know, all in the first while five minutes, you say Philip is telling Peter AKA Ted.

He tells him his name is actually Ted that there's some there's some stuff. There's some products, some merchandise. That's why they had stolen together. So they got a he's trying to like squeeze the information out of them. And when it doesn't work, he pulls a gun and boom, gone. Right.

And the way he disposes of his body as well, he's quite funny. He pulls down the Murphy bed and just throws the corpse in there and shuts it because as he's trying to figure out what to do with his corpse telegram from his wife shows up. Hi, you're my husband come to frickin Portofina, bro. And I mean, was I in like a hotel as well with the fold up bed? I'm guessing it was a hotel. It's a small flat. I don't know. Is that going to smell after a while? I mean, that's not the best dog he ever had.

You can never go back. You're now London is over for you. Before we talk about other things, who the hell am I? I'll tell you who you are. You're a dirty son of a double crosser, a stupid con artist. Who thinks he can pretend that he's lost his memory. I'll get it back for you. No, hold it. Hold on. I got it back already. Have you? Good old daddy. He moves on with his life and is headed to Portofino in Italy. And then we get to see some little little boys swimming, having a swimming meet.

And we get introduced to Sarah, aka Santa burger. And we get to meet Luca, who are rooting my notes is Luca, the infernal. I was rooting for him. But yes, so he is of course being flirty with her. And it's it is what it is. It's disturbing in a way, but I mean, it's not, you know, it's kind of it's all on his patch, we say, you know, she kind of doesn't discourage him. Like you said earlier, but I mean, it's just like, you know, he's just infatuated with you or do anything for it.

It does come into play as well. It'll be like, yeah. And one of the other things about Luca is he's an amateur photographer. Yeah, I found really funny when we see his photographs later, they were definitely taken by like a professional photographer. Yeah, it is. This kid is a freaking wonderkin, man. Wow. Well, it not comes into play as well. Then you know, the whole graphs everything is earned in this movie. That's what I've found.

Speaking of things that you shouldn't be surprised, we'll pay off later. Let's talk about this chainsaw that's that's in here. Right. So yeah. And I mean, once you go back and rewatch the film, you can kind of tell it was just done this scene just to set it up. You know, what's going to happen on in the film and that. But basically, yeah, I presume it's a Gavna, Victoria.

He's using the chainsaw right? So I and she just casually says, you know, by the way, will you leave that, you know, in the cupboard when you when you finish with it. And I mean, no, shallow films like we do. We know that's going to come into play at some point. But yeah, it just, you know, it just gets you thinking, you know, straight away, you know, that's going to happen. Exactly. Yeah, I, it's called check-offs chainsaw.

All right. I just have my mind blown by who the, the gardener. But I'm going to say that for my trivia. Since I have no trivia for this, I suspect you have some trivia for this movie. Yeah, I might have a little bit. Yeah. But I, yeah, I'll say, I'll say who the gardener is for later. She's borrowing this place. She's like, this is like someone's summer house and she's been living there since her husband, Ted disappeared.

And for some reason, that means that the gardener who's keeping the place up has to borrow her chain saw, which is fine. You know, that could happen. Why she keeps it in the cupboard in the kitchen. Who knows that's that must be an Italian thing. I don't know. Yeah, they're sending all British thing on a lot. So, so that night, our little dog or a little hero. What's the dog's name? Whiskey. I can't believe I forgot that. They only say it's 6000 times.

So, so whiskey's her little winner dog and he's, he's the literal best. He's the cutest dog ever. The dog is trying to warn her that someone is in the house. The dog is going ballistic and she's just like, oh, you're so funny. Do you want to drink a water? And then she gets chloroformed and the next morning cops are there and her house is trashed. But that's all that happened. Someone just turned over her house. Nothing's missing. They just went through everything.

Yeah, which is quite strange, you know, because and she acts as if like it's just an everyday thing, you know, just, you know, this guy in the middle of the night, chloroforms you and nothing's really ever said the bait of that, you know, after the police, you know, turn up the next day. She just acts like, oh, this has happened before, but I was never home before. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So finally, she is reunited with with good old Ted.

There's a funny moment where she's waiting for him at the train station and he doesn't recognize her and he keeps walking. But this mysterious gentleman named George tells Ted, hey, your wife's still waiting on the platform dumbass. Somebody goes back. They're reunited. My favorite moment in this is that there's this really hot girl who he was kind of hoping it was his wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wanted him to be like, oh, you're my wife. Okay. I wanted to remember her though.

Right. Today was pretty hot as well. I know. I was just going to say. Yeah. Yeah. This is like probably the most beautiful I've ever seen her ever. It's incredible. How is your way? How is your way? How is your way and burger king? Man, how can you, sir? Two operas, two opera juniors and four Coca-Cola. And what I have to wait long if you make one opera with no pickle and no lettuce. No, sir.

Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce. Special orders don't upset us. So we ask you that you let us serve it your way. Oh, well, in that case, could I have the other opera with extra ketchup? Sure. We can serve your rosy plop of fish with everything on top or anyway, you think is proper? How is your way? Now that's the way to do things. Power away. How is your way? How is your way and burger king? Yes, burger king. Back at the place, something happens when Ted sees their clock. What was that about?

What happened in this film, right? It's all about kind of memory. He's getting his memory back every so often. You know, a little piece of the jigsaw puzzle kind of comes together, having the puzzle puzzle. But yeah, so the clock has something to do with the plot or something to do with his past year where something's happened, but I don't want to go too much into it. It will again come into play later on. Let's put this one. I think he buys of the clock, dummy before all this happened.

Yeah, with one thing in mind. So we say, I'll just say that for now, but yeah, it is kind of an important plot point. Yeah. And it introduces that motif of his memory slowly coming back. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We get some fat shaming at the pool. The guy who's been romancing Sarah this whole time is Danielle a aka Reinhardt. You know, he's like a happening dude. He's got the high heeled shoes. He's got, you know, some nice tight pants on. He seems like a good guy, right?

Right. He does a lot older than us. Well, I think. Yes, he works. He works at the pool. He's like a swimming instructor slash coach for this, this boy swimming team. And he's literally fat shaming this kid. And I'm like, oh, you're getting some weight. Better be careful. All that pasta buddy. And I'm like, have you ever heard of a growing boy? Have you ever heard of the phrase kids grow so fast?

Right. And it's kind of confused what his role is in this school. I don't even know he fat shamed that kid, but what is his actual role? I made it up. He was like the swim coach slash swimming instructor could be. Could well be. But I don't know. Yeah, yeah. This is what more viewings will reveal to us as we go. Exactly.

George gets punched in the face. He thinks he's following Ted around, but in fact, he's not following Ted around. He's Ted sneaks up on him from around a corner and punches him right in the face. George has a habit of blowing his nose and leaving tissues everywhere. Very charming. What a catch this guy must be. And we actually find out why he's following him as well. He can on this whole scheme. There's that merchandise. He wants that merchandise. And it's worth a million dollars. Yeah.

If he can't come up with it because if Ted doesn't come up with it, both of them are going to get killed. He threatens Ted. Like I'll kill your wife too. I'm not going out alone. And then the guy's probably won't be buds at the end of the day. But it's kind of not his best plan either is because if he does care, he's never going to get that one million dollars.

He should be bringing him like supplements like dinko below. Right. Yeah. He should be. Yeah. His best friend flashcards. Do some flashcards. You know, do some like listen to his favorite songs. You know, like I'm just assuming that Ted when he had his memory was really into like the macarena. Is that really kind of well to do as well? You know, they're not poor people. Any anyone in this film. A couple of the little kids. It's not normal. What I view. But yeah, pretty well to do.

Unfortunately, this movie has our puppy pal doesn't make it. What happens with whiskey? Right. So I think she comes back after letting the boy walk the dog, which is probably again not the best things he's ever done.

This dog then it goes off the little boy there needs like chasing round, you know, whiz whiskey, whiz whiskey. And then she gets back to her, you know, her boat and then finds the dog slashed on the bed, which yeah, animal lovers. I know not going to love that scene to be honest, but

luckily it is such a fake dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The actual concept is kind of brutal or with a straight razor. And that's probably like there is one, without jumping the gun, there is one kind of slashing towards the end. But this is nothing like an agento style, you know, black look killer or any of that.

Yeah, the budget was not going to be for the realistic effects on that. But the blood of the dog on the bed reminds Ted of something horrific he witnessed where he's standing there holding somebody from behind, holding their arms behind them. And another figure is slashing the person's throat. I mean, yeah, that's a really cool scene as well, because he has this splash back I think with the mirror as well. Yeah, the mirror maybe jokes is memory and that.

But yeah, that comes up a couple of times in his, you know, as he's piecing everything together, I thought I was a really cool team, like one of the better scenes of the film, I think. This woman, Mary Kane, she knows this gang of people who stole stuff and she's trying to sort of seduce Ted and everything and try to help him jog his memory or if he's lying, that's the other thing is people think he's lying about losing his memory.

If she can trick him into admitting that he's not really lost his memory, when that doesn't work, she, I'm going to go and spoil it folks, she is a accomplice with our pal, Danielle, a Reinhardt, she like runs over Sarah in a parking lot. And instead of taking her to a real hospital, yeah, yeah, they wrap her leg up while she's I'm assuming unconscious and smuggle the merchandise, which we'll also reveal here, which is frickin heroin and they keep calling it little sausages.

Right, yeah, yeah, because it's literally like sausage shaped heroin bags, I'll connect together, which it would be very disappointing for for whiskey had whiskey lived whiskey would have wanted actual sausage. I don't think dogs like heroin, although you could train them to like it possibly.

I pretty show you could yeah don't have the time honestly, but this leads to a frickin tense super tense moment where Sarah's alone recuperating with her leg up on the thing George Paser another visit George has been harassing her he's the one who tossed the apartment he's the one has been like just always around always like starting shit. And the periphery and everything, but the first time he came to see her, he acted sort of friendly, he was menacing, but not in a obvious way.

Right, yeah, he starts throwing lip matches at her. I mean, yeah, I got a little bit of trivia about that later. It was actually come from a film, I might as well say it now, but actually come from a film called Sharad, which I think was made in 1962. That's the writer at the idea, because the character in that I think it's all be at the start in that as well. And she's the one who gets you know from matches on.

But yeah, that's sort of give the writer I think the stale the maybe the idea nice when they're doing the screenplay. Oh man, that cast looks amazing. Yeah, yeah. Oh James Coburn shit, I think he's the one that the sack, you know, of course, of course he played the heavy. Yeah. Cool. There you go. I see it's so funny when filmmakers from the 70s are referencing older films and it's like such a crap shoot if I'm seeing it or not. I'm like, right.

Cool. I mean, that makes you want to go and watch an age just for that connection, but it's probably going to end up being bad. But the cast is amazing. No, I'm pretty confident. Sharad's going to be a freaking great movie. I offense my guarantee to you. Just don't hold me to it. Right. So he leaves her alone and lots and lots of stuff happens. If we went into all of the moments in this movie, we'd be here forever.

And I wanted to say she sees a photo that Luca took of Renee, Renee of Reinhardt's, Danielle, a meeting with Mary Kane. And she's like, wait a minute, that's the lady that ran me over. What the hell's going on with this cast and she immediately says ripping her cast off. And somehow she couldn't feel like the six or seven sausages of heroin. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Luca to hide them for her. And that's when the jig is up with girl Danielle, our pal Ted is just coming from a brutal.

He'd been like shot by George and he killed George, but then he was being held hostage. You see, folks, this is a very convoluted plot. You've got to get the dummy. Oh, shit. That was in my final thought there. But yes, when George goes flying over the cliff, magic. Oh, awesome. Yeah. It is. Fairly convincing, dummy. But it's just such a brutal when it hits the rocks. It's like, oh, I mean, not far seen as well.

Poceted. I love whenever Luke Miranda got a chance, he would do a cool fight scene. I forgot. He's ended up doing karate chops and kicks. So he's on his way back with his memory, possibly restored our pal. Danielle has, you know, he's totally dropped the mask. He is now just threatening to murder Sarah. She locked herself in the kitchen and gets out that trusty chainsaw and they have a freaking chair versus a chainsaw. And I wrote my notes never bring a straight razor to a chainsaw fight.

I mean, it's quite comical when you see her with the chainsaw. He's got this little reason to look at him still out and you're thinking, wow. It is so funny. It's just so gone, though. Like I feel like once you got past the early 70s, Gealo, there was always some gimmick with like the later ones. Like there's always a Gealo with something else. So like autopsy is a Gealo with super, super grim, weird shit happening in it.

Yeah. And then this, you know, I don't know if Texas chainsaw massacre had come out and now this movie had to have something to do with a chainsaw in it. Or if that was like something that was always in the script, I have no clue. And because you had last days on the left, didn't you have a chainsaw? Yes, always forget that was from maybe that was the name Florence, but this was the same year as Texas chainsaw. So yeah, it would be interesting to see which one did come first.

But then the whole thing just this fight is just so epic. And of course, Ted Burstin pretending that he's on Daniela's side. And the chainsaw is now been dropped. It's lying running on the floor, which makes no sense at all. No. And then finally, I came off Sarah pushes him or if I think Miranda look Miranda's character kicks him. Okay. And then he falls on to the chainsaw, which he would have to fall onto it and grab the trigger at the same time for it to do what it does, which is.

That's why I was going to ask you because I didn't even know it. I thought he wasn't on. I thought as he fell on it, that he just comes on automatic. It was so epic. I think it was running, but it wasn't like revving. It wasn't obvious. Right. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah. That makes sense. So, hey, with the villain defeated cops Burstin and obviously way too late to do anything.

And that's when Sarah being a good wife just starts lying about all this stuff like, hey, my husband had nothing to do with any of this is just some crazy shit that happened. And that's when there was like, no, let's tell the truth. Let's do this right. And I'm like, don't do that. Let's go with the lying part.

Right. And that's why I was going to ask you a question about the ending about your interpretation of it because they kind of have this smile together after he says, you know, he's going to basically come clean. And then it just ends. What's your take on that? Do you think he's going to go on and tell the police everything because that would make no sense because both of them would be put away here for a long time.

So I don't know the little look they have the exchange weather. They're going to just, I don't know. My guess is that Ted is going to walk away from this. I think he's going to he's going to come clean and have the both of them tell the entire story. And then he's going to roll over on all of his contacts that now he has his memory back. He's just going to roll over and just be a total fricking still pigeon. And then get witness relocation. Get out of there.

Yeah, yeah, it's a bit. What about you? I just basically I just baffled by, you know, I haven't really got a fault one way or the other. I'm just baffled while you would. Oh no, surely you would just deny everything and blame Danny out. Right. I love her shaking her head though. Like that last thing. And she's just like shaking her head out. I'm like, no, we're going to lie.

I just think that director even knew what they were going for to be honest. Maybe, you know, they didn't have an ending written or something. Exactly. But you're surprised when you think a styled he was part of the right in team as well. Oh, shit he was. Yeah, there's free writers. And this only for the screenplay, I think. Yeah. Okay, I missed him. Cool. My husband had nothing to do with this. He didn't listen to.

I'd be dead if he hadn't got here. Rhymehart tried to kill me. I found out he'd hidden drugs in the cast. He put on my leg the other day. And that's true about the drugs. I saw them. No, there's much more to the story than that, Sergeant. And I think we'd better have a long talk. The producer on this is certainly no slouch. Luciano Martino, brother of Sergio Martino. So you've got husband of Ed Weach. I think it's time. My brain always forgets that. Thank you for that.

I mean, he's got a gap props for that. You know, I know. I can't even process that. I'm so happy for him. Even if it was only for a short while. Exactly. You know, everyone would have wanted to be in these shoes. That's all. The composer on this is Gianni Ferio. And man, one thing about this movie, its score is incredible. It really is. Do you know what I surprised? Like I was surprised. This kind of like the strange vice of Mrs. Ward in places.

Yeah, that's exactly what I got out of it. I love, I love the theme. I love the theme. It's it's one of the most memorable. Like I've been listening to Giello mixes of music ever since I got into this stuff. And there's pieces of music that are just like a signature of the genre. And this has one of those in it. Absolutely. Yeah. Ferio, he also composed the music for Deathwax at midnight, which another absolute freaking brilliant score right there.

That's what I'll be covering tomorrow on a future stream. It's going to do the two death walks. And for Bidden Photos of a lady of suspicions. So I got them to watch overnight. Oh man, that's going to be a fun time. I've seen them all, but it's been a while. So it's going to be like watching them for this time, hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. So that's how I am about Ferdinand Photos. I have not seen that in years. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that one.

The cinematographer on this. I wasn't really familiar with the stuff he shot. He shot a film that I did not like called Dead of Summer, which is tagged as a Giello, but really it's just artsy lady stuck in a remote location. And she's an asshole movie. I don't really know. It's not great, but weirdly enough, he has a story credit on one of the worst actresses ripoffs ever called Return of the Extrasus. I've seen you one for me. 1975. It's pretty rough. And you know, I like actresses ripoffs.

This one is not it's not it's walkable, but man, it's it's so corny and bad. We have Richard Conte in it and some other people. I'm trying to remember it has another title like Possessor or something like that. Oh man. Yeah, the Possessor. The Possessor. Yeah. I never used to that. I wonder don't think when you're desperate. Go for it. But I don't know if you'll ever be that desperate. Right. It can't be as bad as that one. They'll connect with you behind the door or.

Oh, see, I like beyond the door beyond the door. I said, yeah, I like beyond the door. Those kids. As we've talked about those kids before those asshole kids. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to we're going to talk about how we feel about this film. What we know if we loved it liked it or I mean, obviously we both hated this. But no, what's some trivia you got about the good old puzzle? Right. So the film originated from Lafine, Dal, Eternita, which was an improduced idea like a style.

The head concocted with Vitter Eros as a Salino. I might have to say that again. It's all real Salino. There you go. Where the protagonist has lost his memory. So that was kind of like a sci-fi storyline, which predated back to the future. Angiolizoli was going to produce it with Julio Gemma starring in the main cast where Luke Miranda would be. But I was really ended up dying in 1970 and it was kind of shell after that.

Also, when Titanic is got free add-on, Lombardo asked Tazari to think about another thriller. That old story kind of came back to his mind. He took out the sci-fi element and he kind of penned this sort of a line for the story, which it was to become nothing came of it Luciano Matino called him. And he gave him like a two-page treatment from Robert Owen Fassali. And then it kind of came together after that. Is what I read up on.

Nice. So the Amnesia story was a recouvent theme in like 1940s film you are. Also Cornel Woolrich is 1941 novel, The Black Curtain. It's partly got a similar thing going on. And German Laurenti's hold up, which was released again in 1941 story line. You know, may have similar elements.

The scene where Luke Miranda's character, she's a man get his throat slit, is modeled on Harmonica's flashbacks in Sarah Unafault that he west with key details, relief bit by bits in that film us again, another kind of influence. So the the only piece I found was by accident. So the gardener, which we barely even see. And the reason I thought of it, because you said the gardener's name was Vittorio.

This probably Vittorio fan phony, who was in fricking just a name of few, what have you done to salange? Web of the spider? Who saw her die? Be on the door. He's uncredited in the Antichrist. He's also an eyeball. And he's the cop taking notes in deep red. Wow, that's an incredible bunch of films to be. I would love to have that on my CV if I was an actor. That is yeah, she seemed like films really.

Darren, you picked this one because you wanted to hate watch it again, right? How do you feel about the shitty puzzle? Right, so I come into this pretty late. So I first watched this, I would say a couple of years ago, maybe because getting hold of the DVD was really hard to do. Oh, yes. I think there was a foreign one. Oh, yeah, like a Danish one. I think there was. But anyway, so I first watched it.

A couple of years ago, really like everything I've had. I like the fact that it's more like a hitchcock, pocket and type, you know, story line. And it doesn't give you any real go. I don't it's very minimal the go. And I kind of just like the whole memory, the game is memory, losing his memory and getting it back bit by bits. I've always liked those type of films. But yeah, it was a good excuse actually when you said to pick a film out.

I thought, you know, I really want to see this again. So why not? And it holds up as well. It really holds up. For me, I'll give it, I would, you know, if we're going to give a rating, I would give it a strong 8 day to 10. One of the better, less than all ones, I would say. Yes. How about yourself? How did you first watch this?

I was one of the ones who picked up that foreign DVD. I think it was Dutch or something like that. It's in English that the dubbing is in English, but it's also got maybe the Italian. And then all of the subtitles are languages I do not understand. So I've had that DVD forever. And surprisingly, it still looks pretty good after all these years. But that was the first time I saw it was on that disc.

And I thought it was really good. I think I enjoyed it more this viewing because I never had appreciated how tight the script is. So much stuff pays off very little. Is any like slack? It's freaking great. We got JNB in the first five minutes, which I thought was wonderful. The camera works great. The aforementioned music by Gianni Ferrio is just totally cool. And the dummy death as we as we mentioned, it's so good.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like Luke Morinda's character. He's a secret superhero from the Marvel Universe. His superpower is forgetfulness. Missed to forgets. I don't know. I made a joke at the end of the review in the first yellow meltdown book where I talk about how horrible the song is. And what do you mean the one from the closing credits? Yes, I'm still not in love with it. But I actually like that singer. It's Rosella Kanachini.

I'm trying to remember she's got some some cool songs like she was like one of those female pop idols from the time. So she's got some some cool tracks out there. But I definitely have softened in my cruel, cruel review of that wonderful jam at the end.

Folks have heard in the trailer at the beginning. There's some really funky music in that trailer that I don't think is in the movie. And if it is, I don't remember it. But I forgot to send you that beforehand, Darren. But it's it'll get you grooving.

Yeah, look for when when the episode comes out. Did you get this this vision of you bought the blue ray? No, I just I just held on to my old DVD got the blue ray, a DVD. It looks pretty good. There's a comedy track with Kat Alinger, which I didn't get a chance to listen to. But yeah, it's a booklet and all sorts like I know this is not going to be for the podcast because this is more visual. But yeah, if you get a chance. Okay, cool. You might be able to get a cheap because I got a few.

Nice booklet. I totally forgot they put this up as hilarious. I'm working with it. The community track. I might just frickin upgrade. Why not? I blame me if you like the spending money. Hey, you know, she'll get her cut. She gets my paycheck every two weeks. Right.

So before I let you run out of your screaming, Darren, I always ask my guests to talk about a recently seen and loved film just a movie that you watched recently and that can be any genre, no limitations. You got anything exciting. You've seen lately. Right. So I was going to say the slayer right from 1982, but I spoke about on on a stream last week. So I basically I'll say this one. So it's a British program slasher from 1975. And it's called Debbie strangers.

Oh, I heard of that one. So this has hailey meals in it. You've got this psychopaths going rain kind of killing, you know, random people. But what happens early on in this film is you see someone escaped from a mental asylum. And you see what it is kind of turned into this road movie where all this batch of stuff. So how to happen. There's like interact with this two bikers. People get murdered in like the woman gets murdered in the garage.

And then it all kind of ends up with these two characters. And yeah, I won't say nothing after that because you really don't want to know, you know, I don't want to get anything away. But I will say that it is a fantastic film. But it's not a on DVD or Blu-ray or anything. I think what I've got years like a gray market release. But it is on YouTube. So it's deadly strangers 1975 highly recommend it. Certainly if you have British kind of, you know, yeah, those slashes.

That reminded me of another British one that I wish would get a release, which is a night after night after night. Oh, man, I really need to see that one. Yeah. So G allo it hurts. I've got an old bootleg of it. Yeah, never never put it in.

The copies watchable. I think we probably have the exact same version. Yeah, it's just nothing out there for this movie. But yeah, I've really enjoyed it. But yeah, I'll definitely check out deadly strangers. That's like a British yellow you said. I think I've read as well. Yeah, night after night after night. Absolutely.

But deadly strangers has got the same director as a salt. Have you heard of you? Yeah, in the devil's garden, right? Yeah, not in 71. So yeah, I'm pretty sure it's got the same. Sydney Hayes, I think it is. My pick for my recently seen in love is nowhere near horror at all. It could be horrifying if you if you were scared of going to the beach. It's called Where the Boys are 1960. It is I have seen part of the 1984 remake, which was a big, you know, like 80s fun movie.

Where the boys are is 1960s fun. It is about some girls who are tired of being snowed in at their college so they go to spring break down at four Lardale. And it's follows their little stories and it's really kooky. And even with this like breakneck tone shift at the end, it's a frickin wonderful silly film. I'm sure anybody who's in the horror is going to watch it and go, why what?

But you got me interested though. It's just like, yeah, I love 60s cinema. So I love even like the corny stuff. It was a spring break over here. And so Leon and I watched a bunch of spring break movies. And this one had always eluded us and we were totally taken with it. And it's got a really, really young George Hamilton before he turned into leather. And Paula Prentice from the Steppard wives. She steals the whole movie. She's great.

So you watch quite like abroad, you know, you're not just a horror guy. You do watch a lot, a lot of different sub genres and all that. And how many like percentage wise, how many horrors, you know, and that you say you watch in a week or a month or a year. That's a good question. I think definitely as far as I'm always reaching for horror or G all or or slashers, I think slashers that we watch and rewatch the most. And then we mix it up. We watch a lot of British mystery TV.

Right. Yeah. And Victor Morse and Poirot and Agatha, like any Agatha Christie adaptation. Not then we have like every Elvis movie ever. I think I remember you saying that. Yeah. We're perfect. Elvis movie fans. Yeah. You know, we're going to fair amount of comedies like clue and like sometimes some teen movies will sneak in there. I love there's a teen movie called Drive Me Crazy, which is one of my favorite freaking non horror movies ever.

It's just super silly stuff. So we watch a lot of like we watch a lot of musicals, not the Rogers and Hammerstein Rogers and Hammerstein. We don't watch those. Those are pretty dreadful, but like good musicals with like Fred Astaire, the music man. So we mix it up a lot. But if I had my brothers, we would only ever watch horror.

You get burnt out then what you say on horror sometimes. Maybe I think that's why I think that's what it is is that when I'm watching a light movie like like for example, like Hello, Dolly with Barbara Streisand and Walter Mathau. It's like it's such a treat to see people like live to the end of the movie. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I suppose watching like some bad films make you appreciate just not even more.

And you know, Lea does had as much of an influence on my viewing as I've had on hers. So there's a there's a trade off with what we end up watching. There's very few films in our collective non horror collection. I would just not sit through with her. And you know, there's probably more stuff in my collection that she's like, oh God, not that one again. Right, but she will sit down and watch a jealous. Yeah, I'm not the finish. Yeah.

Both books both Jellum Elton and Jellum Elton to she was there for like, I would say at least 80 80 85% of every single one of those. Wow. You know, lucky mine because every kill find all of that wouldn't sit on any Jellums. Yeah, they see AdWeech for next and I guess they can't get a little bit right. It's all about the compromise because you know, like, she even movies I don't I used to not care for. I always tell the story that there's one called practical magic, which is a.

It's a magic movie. It's about which is, but it's more of a romance kind of chick flick kind of thing. But it's so damn good that I finally gave in and was like fine, I like it. It only took like 18 viewing. Wow. Yeah. I know how that works as well. Yeah. Yeah, because if I watch a movie, I don't want to see it again for another year. Like I rarely watch a film like very often during the year. Whereas Lietta, you know, she has her comfort movies and she'll watch those a lot.

I was going to ask you that as well. I like to say obviously you've watched the Agendals a million times. Oh yeah, but like Matino films. I often would you say you watch something like say torso or strings, bodies of Mrs. Wood. Do you watch your multiple time to year or what or just once now? You've seen it so many times. Yeah. Like when I first started collecting, I would watch I had like 20 movies that were in Italian horror, Spanish horror,

I had very little, very fierce. I would back in the day rewatch like phenomena over and over again rewatch zombie over and over again. And then more of my collection grew. I couldn't do that. So I would like, I didn't have time. I would just watch death once while. So sometimes I'll watch torso and I won't watch it for like three years. Okay. Yeah. It's like and I've covered it in one of my books.

It's going to be, it's going to be even like longer. So that's why puzzle. This is my first viewing of puzzle in. Oh my God. Over a decade easily. Wow. Yeah. So I just cycle stuff around like I watched the beyond. We had on leap year. We had a leap year this year. So on leap day, we picked movies that were out of time. So, okay. Yeah. That was. Yeah. Yeah. I think I thought it was the beyond. I hadn't watched the beyond for.

God at least six years. Wow. So I'm also obsessed with like new stuff. Like finding new to me horror movies. So like I'll be watching something like dark tower starring Michael Moriarty. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Watch something like that. That's just so random. But it was intriguing instead of like revisiting opera or what was the one you said? Also. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. So yeah.

They're like a drug to me though. Tosos like a drug. I've got to take every three months or something. Six months. So what I've got. One of my goals was to get back to the Geali. I haven't seen a long time. I won't. So this was great that you know that you threw puzzle into the pile. The one I just watched two weeks ago for the first time was not for the first time for the first time in like at least 10 years was plot of fear.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. And that one hit so hard. I had a great time with that. I know what I've not seen that probably make the same 10 years. I can't remember much about it at all. You'll enjoy it. My friend. Yeah. It is quite good. It's quite good. I will definitely put that now on the watch pile. Yeah. The one I was surprised at going back to was murder obsession. I won't swear because I but I love that film.

We picked it on because we do a thing on dad pits channel where we do like a euro cult podcast. Yeah. I'm like picked it on there and do it. Steve and Dana were watching it. I don't think they had the love I did you know for it. I'm going to go to that movie as that is one of my like top five favorites right there. I know the one who got me in to watching it. I'm glad you did that would make it that has made a great double feature for me with death smiles on a murderer. Yeah. Yeah.

Those those two back to back are just so great. I love them. I go. Yeah. Yeah. Well, sir. I'm going to let you get going. You want to tell us how the folks can find you on various podcasts and YouTube's. Yeah. So we do this thing on every Saturday usually. So I would the kill is on subjective perspective collective. We cover all things. Jolly we have you know guest Richards been on we have Choi how worth a couple of weeks ago. So there's a people looking for that.

I do a grind haze films on visiting by voices one which we're doing next Tuesday. We're covering hell night and humongous. That would be coming out later on in the week. That's with Dan Stein to engoralfobia's Keith. But yeah. So just keep a look at for them to I'm sure there's other things in the work coming as well. But yeah.

Highly recommend. Well man. Thank you again for joining us. No worries. My eyes. It's always. Yeah. I'm glad we finally made time. I'll absolutely have you back on again for sure. Oh, not anytime. Just let me know the same with yourself. You know, we're definitely going back on sooner than later. If I still can't we're you and we're working to subject and all that. Or you can pick for yourself obviously. Yeah, and all that good stuff. So yeah. Bye folks.

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