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Legacy Code Rocks

Andrea Goulet and M. Scott Fordlegacycode.rocks
Legacy Code Rocks explores the world of modernizing existing software applications. Hosts Andrea Goulet and M. Scott Ford of Corgibytes are out to change the way you think about legacy code. If you’re like a lot of people, when you hear the words “legacy code” it conjures up images of big mainframes and archaic punch card machines. While that’s true — it only tells a small part of the story. The truth is, the code you leave behind is your legacy, so let's make it a good one.
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Episodes

Innovation in Legacy with Dave Thomas

There are three groups of people around every legacy system - those who are stuck with it, those who don't want to be with it, and those who love it and see its value. How do we reconcile these three opinions and rewrite legacy code without completely replacing it? Today we talk with Dave Thomas . Dave is an all-around player in the software industry with vast experience as an executive, investor, board member, consultant, architect, and engineer. He is Chairman of Bedarra Corp, which provides c...

Sep 16, 202444 min

Code Reviews with Chelsea Troy

One of the reasons why it is difficult to work with legacy code is the lack of preserving the contextual reasons for past coding choices. Today we talk with Chelsea Troy, a Machine Learning Team Lead at Mozilla and a computer science lecturer at the University of Chicago. She tells us about the value of code review in the software-building process and why code review should not be treated solely as a mechanism for approval. When you finish listening to the episode, visit Chelsea's website at htt...

Jul 22, 202450 min

Modernizing Code with Edward Hieatt

Mending code while it is running is risky. One wrong move and a small change can bring the entire system to a halt. Today we talk with Edward Hieatt , Chief Customer Officer at Mechanical Orchard , a GenAI native company that modernizes critical legacy applications without disrupting what they are doing. He tells us how to use AI to identify system dependencies, why it is important to first understand data flow before diving into code, and how to maintain functionality during the modernization p...

Jul 03, 202449 min

Mending Code with AI with Ray Myers

AI proves to be great at writing new code, but what are its capabilities when it comes to mending the old one? Today we talk with Ray Myers , a legacy code expert and sceptical enthusiast for AI. With 16 years of software engineering experience, he focuses on collective lessons learned to improve our existing systems and organizations. He tells us where is the place of AI in legacy code mending, whether AI can provide help when editing existing code, how to train AI with up-to-date coding skills...

Jun 17, 202458 min

Quality-Check of External Dependencies with Feross Aboukhadijeh

Many of the largest companies rely on third-party code to run critical parts of their software. However, there's often little focus on ensuring the quality of these external dependencies. Today we speak with Feross Aboukhadijeh, CEO and founder of Socket , a developer-first security platform. Socket helps developers and security teams release software faster and reduce time spent on security busywork. Feross is also a lecturer at Stanford, where he teaches CS233 Web Security. We discuss why the ...

Jun 05, 202446 min

From Vintage Computers to Test Automation with Sophia McKeever

How do the love for vintage computers and test automation come together? Can one inspire another and how? Today we talk with Sophia Mckeever , a software development engineer at Pokemon Company International , a test automation framework architect, and a computer historian. She tells us what led her to collect vintage computers, how they evolved into machines we work on today, and what is the connecting thread between computer history and test automation. When you finish listening to the episode...

Apr 02, 202457 min

Kubescape with Shauli Rozen

In Kubernetes , security is a joint effort between security engineers and DevOps. A perfect tool to bring these two together is Kubescape , an open-source Kubernetes security project. Today, we talk with Shauli Rozen , the CEO of ARMO , the company behind Kubescape. Shauli has more than fifteen years of experience in technology, B2B management, and business development. He tells us about the advantages of Kubescape, what it does, and when would you want to use it. When you finish listening to th...

Mar 21, 202439 min

Reviewing Logs with Joe Gross

Reviewing logs for security threats and operational functions can be a cumbersome task. Attention is a finite resource, and it is easy to miss something when faced with megabytes of data. Today, we talk with Joe Gross , the Director of Solutions Engineering at Graylog , a leading centralized log management solution for capturing, storing, and enabling real-time analysis of terabytes of machine data. Joe guides us through SIEM (Security Information and Event Management), revealing the secrets of ...

Mar 04, 202450 min

Managing Security Services with Scott McCrady

Cyber security is not a core activity of most software development companies. It is an outsourced activity that simply has to be done so that we can deploy our core services. Today, we talk with Scott McCrady , CEO of SolCyber Managed Security Services and an accomplished international executive with broad experience in sales, business development, and the operations side of a cloud-based and information security-based business. He tells us about the trends in the cybersecurity market and what h...

Feb 19, 202452 min

Developer Experience with Ramiro Berrelleza

How to set up developers for success? For the longest time, companies left developers to their own devices to figure out the workflows and tools they will be using. As the teams grew, so did their problems due to the lack of established procedures and good practices. Today, we talk with Ramiro Berrelleza , the CEO and co-founder of Okteto , the leading platform for developer experience automation. Ramiro is a true visionary, continuously searching for new ways to improve the software development...

Jan 24, 202438 min

Sustainable Opensource with Cory O’Donel

Back in August 2023, HashiCorp announced that after nine years of Terraform being open source under the MPL license, they were switching it to a non-open source BSL license. This sent shockwaves through the software development community. Today we talk with Cory O'Daniel , a CEO and co-founder of Massdriver , a company helping improve developers' experience of cloud operations, offering self-service capabilities along with governance and guardrails to developers. Cory is also one of the drivers ...

Jan 08, 202455 min

Software Bills of Behavior with Andrew Hendela

Simply knowing what is in your software is not any guarantee of safety. We need to know what that software does versus what we expect it to do. We need to know its rules of behavior. Today, we talk with Andrew Hendela, a founder of Karambit.ai, a company dedicated to automatically detecting malware and securing your software supply chain. Andrew worked for over a decade automating hard cybersecurity problems. He has many years of experience in cybersecurity leadership and deep technical expertis...

Dec 11, 202350 min

Socio-Political Implications of Legacy Code with Amy Newell

In the age of rising AI, we cannot neglect the topic of the social and political consequences of the code we leave behind. Today, we talk with Amy Newell, a 24-year veteran of the tech industry and an avid activist in issues spanning from local politics to tech. Amy discusses how to engage with emerging technologies, how to use them, and how to create them while being cognisant of the harm we can inadvertently cause along the way. When you finish listening to the episode, visit Amy's website at ...

Nov 28, 202349 min

Automatic Refactoring with Jonathan Schneider

Automating refactoring and code transformation is a fascinating and efficient way to eliminate technical debt. Today, we talk with Jonathan Schneider , a Co-Founder and CEO of Moderne, Inc. , and a former senior Software Engineer at Netflix, where he created Netflix Rewrite - a large-scale automated refactoring tool for Java codebases. Jonathan is also the author of SRE with Java Microservices . Jonathan tells us about the advantages, challenges, and pitfalls of creating automated refactoring to...

Nov 13, 202353 min

Disruptive Thinking with Lance James

Imagine if you could counter ransomware by exploiting it to create a backup of your attacked data for you. Now, that would be disruptive! Today, we talk with Lance James. James is an experienced cybersecurity specialist with 25 years of experience in the field. Building on his programming, network security, digital forensics, malware research, and counterintelligence experience, Lance tells us how to use disruptive thinking to improve cyber security and predict and counter major cyber threats. W...

Oct 24, 202349 min

From Monolith to Understanding with Nelida Velazquez

Going from monolith to microservices is one of the most popular topics in software engineering. But jumping the boat without understanding why can be a dangerous (and expensive) adventure. Today we talk with Nelida Velazquez . Nelida is a senior software engineer at Cobalt , a cyber security company that offers pentest as a service. As a backend developer, she had numerous opportunities to witness ill-informed migrations from monolith to microservices, and she is sharing her experience with us. ...

Oct 02, 202349 min

The Old New Thing with Raymond Chen

Microsoft invited the Legacy Code Rocks team to attend Microsoft Build Conference and gave us access to the studio on the third floor of the Seattle Convention Center. In this episode, we talk with Raymond Chen, a senior software engineer at Microsoft. Raymond has been involved in the evolution of Windows for more than 30 years. In 2003, he began a Web site known as The Old New Thing which has grown in popularity far beyond his wildest imagination, a development which still gives him the heebie-...

Sep 19, 202338 min

Playwright with Debbie O’Brien and Max Schmitt

Microsoft invited the Legacy Code Rocks team to attend Microsoft Build Conference and gave us access to the studio on the third floor of the Seattle Convention Center. In this episode, we talk with Debbie O’Brien and Max Schmitt, both part of the Microsoft Playwright team.. Playwright is a tool developed by Microsoft that allows developers to automate the testing of web applications.. Playwright's unique feature is its ability to handle multiple browser contexts, making it efficient for testing ...

Jul 31, 202337 min

Windows Terminal with Kayla Cinnamon

Microsoft invited the Legacy Code Rocks team to attend Microsoft Build Conference and gave us access to the studio on the third floor of the Seattle Convention Center. In this episode, we talk with Kayla Cinnamon , the first of the three guests we had an opportunity to chat with at the Conference. Kayla is a Product Manager with Microsoft. She’s currently working on Microsoft Dev Home and helps out the Microsoft PowerToys team. Kayla is also the former product manager of Windows Terminal. She te...

Jun 26, 202325 min

Passwordless Cyber Security with Justin Richer

How many of your passwords do you actually know? Now, how many of those passwords are already on the black web? We are living in a fascinating age of transition from personalised passwords dependent on text inputs and our memory to more advanced access solutions. To help us navigate this evolution, we talk with Justin Richer . Justin is a technologist working on a wide variety of projects and problems throughout the internet. Justin is the founder of Bespoke Engineering , an independent consulta...

May 31, 202355 min

Servicing Technical Debt with Dave Mangot

There is some disconnect between business people and engineers when talking about technical debt. While engineers understand the metaphor as a credit card debt that has to be paid off entirely and as soon as possible, business people see it more as a mortgage paid in small installments over a long period. Today we talk with Dave Mangot , CEO of Mangoteque and the consultant, author, and speaker helping private equity portfolio companies get good at delivering software. As a former architect at S...

May 15, 202348 min

Code Review with Michaela Greiler

How to ensure that your code review practices are not just an expensive bottleneck in your team’s productivity but its ultimate superpower? Today we talk with Michaela Greiler , a Head of Research at DX and the owner of a consultancy and training company, Awesome Code Reviews , focused on helping development teams improve their practices and processes. She tells us when to do code reviews, how to get the most value out of them, how to incentivize meaningful code reviews, and much more. When you ...

May 01, 202347 min

Carrying Cost with Avdi Grimm

What does it mean to build a cost-free feature in the software, and are cost-free features even possible? Today we talk with Avdi Grimm . Avdi is a software developer with more than twenty years of experience. During his career, Avdi worked on everything from aerospace embedded systems to enterprise web applications. He is the author of Confident Ruby: 32 Patterns for Joyful Coding and a recipient of the Ruby Hero Award. Currently, he spends his time helping developers deepen their coding practi...

Apr 17, 202339 min

Process Improvement with Stefanni Brasil

Every once in a while, it is wise to stop for a second and think about why we do things in a specific way and whether we need to change something. This is where rethinking processes kick in. Today we talk with Stefanni Brasil , a co-founder of hexdevs, a senior developer at Thoughtbot, and a core maintainer of faker-ruby. Stefanni is also a co-host of the hexdevs podcast, a show helping developers take their Ruby career to the next level. She tells us about her keen interest in processes, why th...

Apr 03, 202342 min

Building Durable Software with Ashu Chatterji

There is an eternal dilemma among software developers - should we try our best to predict the future and build it into our code, or should we just plan for frequent iterations? Today we talk with Ashu Chatterji , CEO of Caravel Labs and software engineer with 3+ decades of industry experience, working to reimagine IT consulting as an industry incentivized by innovative outcomes in global sustainability and social justice. Ashu built and led a global practice of "player-coach engineers" that help...

Mar 20, 202340 min

Software Design with John Ousterhout

To build anew or to rebuild? Many developers have a knee-jerk reaction to start building existing software systems from scratch because they think that is the easiest way forward. Today, we talk with John Ousterhout . John is the Bosack Lerner Professor of Computer Science at Stanford University. His current research focuses on new software stack layers to allow data center applications to take advantage of communication and storage technologies with microsecond-scale latencies. He is the author...

Mar 06, 202353 min

Elm, Roc, and Rust with Richard Feldman

Working on legacy code is never easy, but some programming languages make it more enjoyable. Today, we talk with Richard Feldman , the creator of the Roc programming language , the author of Elm in Action , and the creator of the Frontend Masters courses Introduction to Elm and Introduction to Rust . Richard tells us about the advantages of the Elm, Rock, and Rust languages and why they are more enjoyable to work with than other languages. When you finish listening to the episode, connect with R...

Feb 06, 202345 min

Refactoring in Product Teams with Andreas Creten

Product teams are scared of technical debt and refactoring. They press on to make something new, not to question what they have already created. However, the urgency to deliver new products carries the risk of technical debt. Today, we talk with Andreas Creten , a software engineer turned CTO. Andreas is a co-founder of Made With Love , a company that helps startups and scaleups to get out of technical trouble. Andreas tells us how to work with product teams to address technical debt in the earl...

Jan 23, 202341 min

STEM and Cooking with Kimberly Fox

How can cooking help you have a better team? Today, we talk with Kimberly Fox . Kimberly leads virtual and in-person cooking classes and is a recipe developer and writer for her blog, From Market to Table . Building on more than ten years of experience working in STEM and witnessing gender inequalities and micro-cultures in corporate settings, Kimberly developed her signature corporate cooking experiences helping leaders to build more inclusive and diverse teams. When you finish listening to the...

Dec 18, 202244 min

Python with Michael Kennedy

In this episode, we are talking with Michael Kennedy , Python expert and the founder and host of two podcasts - Talk Python To Me and Python Bytes . He also runs Talk Python Training which provides online courses for Python developers. Michael tells us about the reception of Python version changes and the most challenging aspects of the transition to ARM processors. When you finish listening to the episode, connect with Michael on LinkedIn and Twitter, subscribe to his podcasts, and check out hi...

Dec 05, 202254 min
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