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Leaving Hillsong

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Episodes

Tulips and the Monster they Created part 2

Alcohol is not Brian H's friend so why is drinking so rampant in Hillsong life? And what has changed since the old days when not a drop should be drunk? Or a pastor? Grace and I continue our discussions on what the is going on recently in HS and its culture and it gets a little heated! Join us for more chat about #leavinghillsong Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 13, 202234 minSeason 2Ep. 11

Tulips and the Monster They Created

Grace and I (both Social Work grads and former Hillsong people) wanted to catch up on the who's who and who's where of Hillsong. Cos we've both been a bit MIA. Join us as we attempt to make sense of some leaders' decisions by reporting and trying to attach some social work theory or bandaids to what is going on. Over 2 episodes we discuss life development stages, mental health, gender, tulips and so much more. So grab a cup of coffee or tea or the sacramental wine and let's talk tulips! Hosted o...

May 12, 202250 minSeason 2Ep. 10

The Money Trail Pt 3

Leavers, Believers, and the rest of the world: WOW did you know this stuff? I sure as heck didn't and you can hear the excitement in my voice. 11 year old me had so much fun in this snooping world of spying on the bad guys. Barry Bowen from Trinity Foundation (trinityfi.org) walks us right through a Form 990 of TBN the cable channel and shows us all the revenue they've disclosed. We go snooping through bizpedia and then discuss the red flags you should look for when assessing a church! Each mome...

Apr 17, 202234 minSeason 2Ep. 9

The Money Trail Part 2

Well, goodness me! What a ride The Money Trail is becoming! In Part 2, Barry Bowen from the Trinity Foundation covers issues including: - fraud - board structures - property searches and data bases for church ownership - income streams - music, music, music - copyrighting your sermon and much more Do not miss Part 2 of THE MONEY TRAIL ! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Apr 16, 202228 minSeason 2Ep. 8

The Money Trail

Oh baby, baby, it's a wild world. It's hard to get by just upon a smile. But it helps! WELCOME TO THE SPECIAL EDITION OF LEAVING HILLSONG THE TELEVANGELIST HUNTING EDITION! BARRY BOWEN FROM THE TRINITY FOUNDATION in Texas talks you through the way corporate structures, sneaky shifty boards, and limited liability helps evangelists flourish and propagate with little interruption. In this episode we cover: - unexplained deaths around TV evangelists - revenue disclosure or lack thereof - money laund...

Apr 15, 202229 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Family Ties

One Roberta Houston, AKA Bobbie or Mother Dove (official cult name) is the next character #leavinghillsong. And it looks like she did not go peacefully in the night. Brian had a tantrum online about it, just about 8 o'clink, and then the Board, whoever the heck they even are, wrote a thinly veiled swipe back and Grace and I couldn't resist. So set your hair in curlers, and get ready to hang over the back fence with us, as we say bye bye Bobbie and wonder where their successors, sons, and Rolexes...

Apr 10, 202259 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Board Games

There's been a lot of changes behind the Board Room doors at Hillsong. Our Chief Source, Saucey/BBQ Sauce/theSauce walks us through what the moves the board have made, who's who in this zoo and who's zooming who? Where are the elders, who's behind the changes and what does it all mean? Tonight we're in the board room. Hillsong has been playing Monopoly for way too long. Who's the little dog? and the guy with the hat? It looks like someone's missing.. so pull up an executive chair as the Sauce ex...

Apr 03, 202234 minSeason 2Ep. 5

My Way or the Norway - Sorry

In this bonus episode, Grace and I have a look at a detailed statement from a former Hillsong pastor in Norway and a letter from Brian@hillsong.com that says sorry, almost,.. Come chat!! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 30, 202241 minSeason 2Ep. 4

The Great Resignation

The week ending 27 March 2022 concluded with the 3rd resignation of a pastor. The 7 days prior had seen a board member, and at least 2 pastors resign.. most notably the Big Eagle himself as he used to be affectionately known, Brian Houston ... Join 'Grace' a former member of ten years of Hillsong who is working on a Masters in Social work and me to look at the statements from Hillsong and what they might have meant .. then and now.. This one's worth cake... and we'll talk about that. Talk then!!...

Mar 27, 202245 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Powerful Men and the Greasy Pole

On March 10 2022 I was arrested after attending a court mention of Brian Houston's By the following week everything at Hillsong had changed. Join us as we discuss what Brian did next or last or didn't do, my 2nd arrest connected with Hillsong, and what might happen next or not. We go over the Global Board's letter of response. And we have a lot of questions. Special guest: Rev Michael Bones muso, human rights activist and law degree holder last from the Baby or the Bathwater! Come chat! Hosted o...

Mar 20, 20221 hr 1 minSeason 2Ep. 2

David’s Princess - a reading from People in Glass Houses

Recorded on 20 March 2022 following the initial public revelations about Brian Houston's misconduct, I decided to do a reading from my book, People in Glass Houses. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 20, 20225 min

Who’s The Boss?

Is Brian Houston #leavinghillsong? What does it mean that he 'stepped aside' or was it 'down'? Now what? Join me and my very clever colleague and source for this fantastic discussion about how Brian C Houston came to be in the Assemblies of God movement, why he's left, and what his life will be like after... We also discus what the organisation looks like and well, who's the boss? DON'T MISS THIS EXCITING CLOSE UP RETURN TO LEAVING HILLSONG! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more inform...

Feb 27, 202228 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Welcome Home Part 3 plus Holiday Tea

Happy Holidays! In this gift for you, we discuss what happens when, after leaving Hillsong, Noemi asks some queer questions and asks for straight answers from the Men Who Said They Knew About God. Then we talk about why and how Carl Lentz was fired and the impact that had on his immediate followers... We also talk about resilience and what got Noemi through. Don't miss this episode for controversy and healing tips! Something for everyone! Oh and stay safe ❤️❤️ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priv...

Dec 26, 202124 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Welcome Home Part 2

Hillsong says 'Everybody's Welcome'. But for years the question has dragged on in celeb and mainstream media: Is everybody welcome in the same way? How are members of the LGBT community treated? The pink dollars are welcome but what about the humans behind them? Noemi Uribe shares her experiences of asking these questions to her pastors and leaders in Boston as part of the East Coast 'campus' of Hillsong. Due to the deliberately vague avoidance, she received very clear answers and the impact of ...

Dec 19, 202159 minSeason 1Ep. 20

Welcome Home

Noemi had grown up as a pastor's kid in Mexico and was involved in church planting with her family. After returning to the US for her education continued her Pentecostal faith.She was eventually invited to a Hillsong Church plant, later, not knowing it would become infamous not too long after.In Part 1, Noemi shares a fascinating history of life as a Pentecostal in Mexico and the transition into 'white church', and away from her very cultural roots including the Brown Virgin her grandmother reve...

Dec 05, 202132 minSeason 1Ep. 19

The Bathwater or the Baby?

"Reverend" Bones is an indie musician, songwriter and singer based in Canberra. He's a passionate climate change activist and a law graduate, working long hours when he's not playing with the Exvangelicals. It's a very different life for this 30-something than ten years ago when he first ventured out of his hometown, into the city, and the study of philosophy and law at university. Michael, as his mother calls him, speaks strongly from his own experience and professional insights about healing, ...

Nov 28, 202149 minSeason 1Ep. 18

A Contestant in Their Game

Yolandi Bosch is one of the handful of people who have ever spoken out in print against Hillsong's practices and ethics. She has featured in the New York Post, Business Insider, Vanity Fair, and is rumoured to be have been interviewed for an upcoming Hollywood special. But at what cost? Did Hillsong sue? Will they sue? Is speaking up and 'doing the right thing' really worth it in the real world? Join us for this very important discussion about protecting other people. Closing track by Gospel Tra...

Nov 14, 202137 minSeason 1Ep. 17

A Contestant in Their Game

Given that 90% of Hillsong College students in Australia are international, it's kinda important to know how those students are treated and what the actual education is like. Yolandi Bosch found out when after saving up, she applied to Hillsong College to further her skills and her relationship with God. What she found was she had paid to be part of an entertainment machine, where students were graded according to their marketability, and if they had none, they paid to be rejected. Far from home...

Nov 07, 202136 minSeason 1Ep. 16

A Minor Thing

Lisa found spiritual homes in the AoG/Hillsong network for 14 years, for her, her husband, and family of 5... or so she thought.And while she had questions over the years, things that didn't seem right, it wasn't until a major issue during a major rebranding was treated like a minor thing that Lisa and her family fled.And then experienced the results of their hard work.Join Lisa and me for a chat about a mother's realisations from being in and finally leaving Hillsong! Hosted on Acast. See acast...

Oct 31, 202140 minSeason 1Ep. 15

My Voice Does Matter

Megan was 17 when she moved to the big city and started attending a big church that soon became Life in name and for her.But after guaranteeing her medical welfare during a crisis to staff, everything changed when Megan got back to church and college.And then there's the old Hillsong link.Join us for a chat about Life, the Hillsong Universe and everything Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 10, 202135 minSeason 1Ep. 14

An Economy of Souls - Part 2

Shaun Nemorin is a therapist, mental health researcher and a leader in the torture and trauma field. He holds a Bachelor of Psychology and a Masters of Social Work and has 20 years’ experience working with people with a refugee experience, 10 of those spent in humanitarian contexts and emergencies with the United Nations.But as a younger man he witnessed and experienced first hand abusive hazing practices at the institution he called his spiritual home.Some time ago, Shaun decided to confront th...

Sep 26, 202149 minSeason 1Ep. 13

An Economy of Souls - Part 1

Shaun Nemorin is a narrative therapist, a former UNHCR staffer, with a Masters in Social Work, specialising in trauma. But before that, he was a boy looking for community in connection in a place he now calls The Institution. Join us for this conversation and settle in for an overdose of insight, expertise, and lived experience. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 19, 202145 minSeason 1Ep. 12

A Pentecostal Agenda Part 2

In Part 2, Fiona leaves the revival centre movement and goes out into the big, not so bad world. This episode looks briefly at the domestic violence model and leaving a pentecostal church, so please be prepared. And Fiona also walks us through how she took social action and was successful! keeping kids in schools safer from the Pentecostal Agenda It's a great listen, so please do join us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Sep 12, 202134 minSeason 1Ep. 11

A Pentecostal Agenda

This week we hear from Fiona about a church not unlike Hillsong, but not Hillsong. Fiona grew up in Melbourne in several pentecostal churches including the Christian Revival Centres. The experiences had a profound impact on her life as she rose through the ranks to pastor and leader and she discusses those times and what it was like to come out as gay in a place with a pentecostal agenda. Please join us! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Sep 05, 202128 minSeason 1Ep. 10

A Bald-Faced Lie Part 2 (final) Nathan Zamprogno

When disgraced pastor Frank Houston left the Hillsong off shoot church he'd been sent to, Nathan Zamprogno did soon after, too. But not before he'd seen the harsh reality of where church and state collided. Nathan shares his story of leaving Hillsong and how a political party that was supposed to have nothing to do with the church, made its influence very clear. Join us for Part 2 of a Bald - faced Lie, There were some tech difficulties with a previous version so if you missed the details: Natha...

Aug 29, 202144 minSeason 1Ep. 9

A Bald-faced Lie

Nathan Zamprogno was a devoted member of a church that was a Hillsong offshoot, about half an hour's drive away. He discusses the impact those years of devotion had on him before he ended up #leavinghillsong. But before he had, he was witness to a visiting pastor who appeared to stay. His name was Frank Houston, and it seemed strange he should be in such a small town so far away from the public eye. And the reasons were more than sinister. Please join us as Nathan and I discuss all things youth ...

Aug 22, 202135 minSeason 1Ep. 8

My Favourite Colour - Emily's Story Part 2 (final)

Emily discusses the 'trail of destruction' that Bobbie Houston left behind and what the global pastor's words have meant to her.She tells us about the tools she found to rescue herself from Religious Trauma Syndrome and how she found a peaceful life that she loves living.So please join us to find out if Emily got a favourite colour and how she fought her way back after #leavinghillsong Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information....

Aug 15, 202133 minSeason 1Ep. 7

My Favourite Colour - Emily's Story

Emily grew up in a Christian home singing the songs of Hillsong in church. When she got the chance to actually be in the band after moving to London, she jumped at it. Over time, Emily realised things were changing. She talks to us about those changes, including the effects of Religious Trauma Syndrome in this episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 08, 202138 minSeason 1Ep. 6

A Bit of a Weirdo - Part 2 Jo's Story

Jo tells us her happy ending with Ben and the baby/s 🙂 and explains what life was like working every day for a church of 800 people in a volunteer musician role. A very informative episode about a woman's experience in the music world as a worship leader for a church plant of Hillsong's Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 01, 202128 minSeason 1Ep. 5

A Bit of a Weirdo - Jo's Story

Jo felt like an outsider at school and gladly welcomed her friend's invitation to go to a youth group at a local church. The church happened to be one of the satellite offshoots 'planted' by Pastor Frank Houston of Hillsong (nee Sydney Christian Life Centre) and pastored by none other than Carl Lentz's future father-in-law, and old pal of Brian Houston's, Kevin Brett. Soon, Jo met Ben and fell in love. Both invested in a pastor's vision, they were to face some impossible decisions, decisions tha...

Jul 28, 202131 minSeason 1Ep. 4
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