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Leaving Eden Podcast

Leaving Eden LLCwww.patreon.com

A podcast about the IFB Cult as told by survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavri'el HaCohen. This podcast covers the IFB, the history of the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, other cults, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole. Our goal is to promote freedom of mind, freedom of thought, and freedom of religion.


General Content Warning: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics.


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Episodes

Ep. 96: Sadie Goes to Jesus Camp (Cry Night) (Fun / Pain / Trauma / Deconstruction / Salvation Doubt / IFB / Fundamentalism / Ex-Fundie / Exvangelical / Summer / Childhood Memories / Cult Stories)

Have you ever seen the move Jesus Camp? Well the summer camp Sadie went to made Jesus Camp look like a vacation to Jamaica with Micah and Moriah. Sadie asks the question, do the IFB know how to have fun without traumatizing children? And we legitimately do not know the answer. PLEASE SEND US YOUR HOW TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR HOW TO SERIES AT LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.com WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme s...

Aug 22, 20221 hr 58 min

Ep. 95: How To: Alcohol (Drinking / Fundie Snark / IFB / Ex Fundie / Exvangelical / Theology / Sinning / Fun / Beer / Gin / Wine / Vodka / Tequila / Whiskey / Martini / Sex On The Beach)

Did you come out of fundamentalism terrified of alcohol? Did you start drinking and make horrible mistakes? Do you wish you had somebody to point you in the right direction? Well Sadie and Gavi are here with this primer teaching you how to consume alcohol safely and responsibly, and instructing you how to avoid having a bad time. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp! For 10% off your first month of online therapy, visit BetterHelp.com/Eden PLEASE SEND US YOUR HOW TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR HOW...

Aug 15, 20222 hr 12 min

Ep. 94 And A Half: Welcome To Plathville Season 4 Recap ( Kim and Barry Plath / Divorce / Ethan / Olivia / Micah / Moriah / Strip Club Etiquette / Jamaica / Reality TV / TLC / Drama / Family / Weed )

You know what it is. All the spice. Sadie and Gavi are here with their takes on everything that occurred in season 4 of welcome to Plathville. Micah's birthday party at the strip club. Kim and Barry's divorce. Olivia's memorial ultimatum. Kim's financial exploitation of her son. Ethan smokes weed for the first time. Moriah's fight with Olivia. It's all here. Be sure that you've tuned into the Plathville Season 1-3 recap (the first half of this episode released on Monday, the 8th)PLEASE SEND US Y...

Aug 10, 20221 hr 22 min

Ep. 94: Plathville Part 2: Seasons 1-3 Recap (TLC / Reality TV / Welcome To Plathville / Plath Family / Deconstruction / Vision Forum / IFB / Kim / Barry / Ethan / Olivia / Micah / Moriah / Music)

In today's episode, Sadie and Gavri'el recap Welcome to Plathville seasons 1-3. (Season 4 recap will be available for streaming on Wednesday) They talk about everything from Ethan and Olivia going no contact with Kim and Barry, Moriah getting thrown out at 17 and pursuing a music career, Micah's modeling career, Moriah's sh***y ex-boyfriend Max, Kim's constant manipulation, and Kim's ongoing conflict with Olivia. PLEASE SEND US YOUR HOW TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR HOW TO SERIES AT LeavingEdenPod@Gmail....

Aug 08, 20221 hr 40 min

Ep. 93: How To: Dating (Ex-fundie / Fundie Snark / Deconstruction / Purity Culture / Relationships / Sex Education / Consent / Exvangelical)

In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el discuss learning how to date after leaving fundamentalism. If you want us to talk about something you'd like to learn how to do, please send your questions to LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.com WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/artist/6lB7RwSQ9X5gnt1BDNugyS?si=jVhmqFfYRSiruRxekdLgKA. Join our Facebook Discus...

Aug 01, 20221 hr 59 min

Ep. 92: Plathville Part 1: Are The Plaths IBLP or IFB? (NEW INFO) ( Fundie Snark / TLC / Jill Rodrigues / J-Rod / Duggars / Theology / Deconstruction / ATI / Quiverfull / Fundamentalism / Reality TV)

Sadie and Gavri'el begin their deep dive (Part 1 of 2) into the Plath family from TLC's Welcome to Plathville! They introduce the family members, the premise of the show, and Sadie uses her ex-fundie research skills to discover new and previously unknown information about the specifics of the Plaths' religious beliefs, including the details of their ties to both IFB and IBLP branches of Christian fundamentalism. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp! For 10% off your first month of online...

Aug 01, 20221 hr 33 min

Ep. 91: Burnout (Deconstruction / Theology / Fundie Snark / Fundie Life / Balance / Lifestyle / Fundamentalism / Physical Health / Mental Health)

In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el discuss the very real dangers that fundamentalist life poses to a person's physical and mental health, namely through overwork and sleep depravation. WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Profits from all pride-themed merch go to Point of Pride, an organization that provides resources for trans and nonbinary people across the United States, including in Texas and Florida Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast ...

Jul 18, 20221 hr 56 min

Ep. 90: Warren Jeffs and the FLDS (Mormonism / Fundamentalism / LDS / Keep Sweet Pray and Obey / Religion / Jesus / John Smith)

In This Episode, Sadie and Gavi talk about the FLDS, Eat Sweet Pray and Obey, and Warren and Rulon Jeffs. WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Profits from all pride-themed merch go to Point of Pride, an organization that provides resources for trans and nonbinary people across the United States, including in Texas and Florida Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/artist/6l...

Jul 11, 20221 hr 54 min

Ep. 89: Christian Nationalism (Biblical Literalism Is Idolatry) (American History / Theology / 4th of July / Fundie Snark / Christian Music / Manifest Destiny)

Happy 4th of July! On today's episode, Sadie explains to Gavri'el exactly where the idea of Christian Nationalism comes from, and why so many Christians in the United States believe that America is supposed to be a Christian nation. Note: We recorded this episode several weeks prior to the US Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade. Because of this, we make MANY jokes about topics that are REALLY not very funny in the light of that ruling. We hope you'll keep that in mind as you listen. An Exten...

Jul 04, 20222 hr 14 min

Ep. 88: The Leaving Eden Drag Brunch Returns With Listener Stories! (Feat. Dinah House-Fire) (Pride / LGBTQ / Mailbag / Deconstruction / Fun)

Sadie and Gavi are ONCE AGAIN joined by Dinah House-Fire the greatest ex-fundie drag performer and exorcism recipient to ever live. The three of them read listener stories, Euphoria, and Gavi's hypothetical drag persona. This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride, an amazing organization that provides resources including HRT and other medical care to trans and nonbinary people in the United States. If you want to support them, you can donate at https://www.pointofpride.org/donate An...

Jun 27, 20221 hr 44 min

Ep. 87: Pride 3: The Gayzer Beam (Grooming Libel) (LGBTQ+ Rights / Fundamentalism / Politics / History / Deconstruction / Cult Deprogramming)

On this episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the libelous allegations of grooming that are being leveled against the LGBTQ+ community. Don't worry though, it's not all pain and trauma! Source post for this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/67870328 "Inside a Cult" Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pwI6py78gsI This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride, an amazing organization that provides resources including HRT and other medical care to trans and nonbina...

Jun 20, 20222 hr 10 min

Ep. 86: Pride Month Special Interview with Elizabeth Hunter! (AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!) (Deconstruction)

On Today's AMAZING episode, Sadie and Gavi get to talk to the one and only Liz Hunter, AKA LITERALLY the coolest person to ever escape from fundamentalism. We would try to summarize this in the description but there is simply TOO MUCH to summarize. Make sure you check out Liz's new book, Hearts of Clay and Tempest. https://www.nymeriapublishing.com/hearts-of-clay-and-tempest This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride, an amazing organization that provides resources including HRT and...

Jun 13, 20221 hr 30 min

Ep. 85: The History of Pride (And Why You Shouldn't Be A TERF) (LGBTQ / IFB / Fundamentalism / Deconstruction / Cult Stories / Queer Stories / Gay / Lesbian / Bisexual / Transgender / Nonbinary)

In today's pride month special episode, Sadie tells us all about the history of pride and LGBTQ+ activism in the United States, and explains how trans rights are inherently tied to the rights for not just the whole LGBTQ+ community, but to women's rights as well! This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride, an amazing organization that provides resources including HRT and other medical care to trans and nonbinary people in the United States. If you want to support them, you can donat...

Jun 06, 20221 hr 47 min

Ep. 84: Cult Leaders And Convicted Pedophiles Are Bad At Writing Mental Health Self-Help Books (Feat. Dr. Shoshana Fagen) (IFB / Fundamentalism / Jack Schaap / First Baptist Church of Hammond)

Ex-Cult leader, former FBCH Pastor, and convicted pedophile/sex trafficker "Dr." Jack Schaap believes that he is an expert in mental health and christian counseling. Gavi and Sadie are joined by ACTUAL Dr. Shoshana Fagen to talk about why Jack Schaap's book "Healing for the Inner Hurts" is just about the worst book that you could give somebody who is suffering with their mental health. This book is so bad that Jack Schaap deserves to go back to prison for having written it. National Suicide Hotl...

May 30, 20221 hr 26 min

Josh Duggar Sentencing Special: 12 Years and Counting (Duggars / IBLP / ATI / Quiverfull / True Crime / Trial Coverage / Amy King / Caleb Williams / Anna Duggar / Michelle Duggar / Fundie Snark)

Sadie and Gavi discuss Josh Duggar's sentencing, from motions, to objections, to his prison term. They also discuss the letters written to the judge by Michelle and Anna Duggar, as well as various recent public statements made about the trial by Amy Duggar King and Caleb Williams. Letters written to Hon. Judge Timothy L. Brooks: https://interactive.5newsonline.com/pdfs/duggar-sentencing-2.pdf Content Warning: This episode discusses the sentencing in a trial for possession of and receiving child ...

May 26, 20221 hr 47 min

Ep. 83: A Day In The Life At Cult College (HAC / IFB / Fundamentalism / Cult Stories / Soulwinning / Hyles Anderson College)

In this episode, Sadie takes us through a day in her life during college. If you thought high school was hectic, just wait. We hear about fire alarms, dangerous stairs, and getting caught in the crossfire of a gang fight! An Extended version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Leaving Eden Podcast Merch available on Teespring! https://teespring.com/stores/leaving-eden-podcast-shop Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify! https://ope...

May 23, 20222 hr 29 min

Ep. 82: A Day In The Life In Cult High School (IFB / Deconstruction / Stories / Education / Ministry / Fundamentalism / Pastor's Kid)

On today's episode, Sadie describes what a day in her life was like during high school, both during the week and on the weekends. An Extended version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Leaving Eden Podcast Merch available on Teespring! https://teespring.com/stores/leaving-eden-podcast-shop Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/artist/6lB7RwSQ9X5gnt1BDNugyS?si=jVhmqFfYRSiruRxekdLgKA. Join our Facebook Dis...

May 16, 20221 hr 58 min

Ep. 81: My Smokin' Hot Wife (Mothers Day) (IFB / Cult Stories / Theology / Deconstruction / Proverbs 31 / Sexism / Misogyny / Relationships / Motherhood / Biblical Womanhood)

Sadie and Gavri'el honor the occasion of Mothers Day by discussing the proverbial Proverbs 31 woman. Sadie explains how even compliments and praise can be a prison within the IFB, And reveals who she believes is a real life, modern day Proverbs 31 woman. This episode was recorded prior to the leak of documents revealing a potential overturn of the Roe V. Wade Supreme Court Decision. This episode was recorded prior to news of the release of Jack Schaap from prison for sex trafficking of a minor. ...

May 09, 20221 hr 52 min

Ep. 80: The Mother of All Conspiracy Theories: The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (Fundamentalism / IFB / Judaism / Antisemitism / History / Russia / Hitler / Nazi / John Todd / Satanic Panic)

On today's episode, Sadie and Gavri'el explore the link between Illuminati/New World Order conspiracy theories, and fundamentalism by taking a deep dive into The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which is a fictitious document originating in the Russian empire in the early 1900s. This document has influenced John Todd, Hitler, The Satanic Panic, Q Anon, and everything in between. Sources for this episode are available on a free post on our Patreon. https://www.patreon.com/posts/65298661 An Extend...

May 02, 20222 hr 10 min

Ep. 79: The Monarch Returns for Missions Madness (Feat. Dinah House-Fire) (Missions / IFB / Fundamentalism / Listener Stories / Racism / Jesus)

Dinah House-Fire has returned to our podcast to discuss YOUR missions stories! Join us for the laughter and the tears! Extended version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Leaving Eden Podcast Merch available on Teespring! https://teespring.com/stores/leaving-eden-podcast-shop Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/artist/6lB7RwSQ9X5gnt1BDNugyS?si=jVhmqFfYRSiruRxekdLgKA. Join our Facebook Discussion group!...

Apr 25, 20221 hr 47 min

Ep. 78: From the Illuminati to the IFB: The Fantastic Lies of John Todd (Cult Stories / Conspiracy / New World Order / Q anon / Fundamentalism / Satanic Panic / Occult / Witchcraft / Ritual Abuse)

Have you ever wondered why fundamentalism is so rife with conspiracy theories? Have you ever wondered about the link between the IFB and Q anon? Have you ever wondered how Illuminati and New World Order conspiracies became ubiquitous? On today's episode, Sadie and Gavri'el trace it all back to one man; John Todd, who, with the help of Jack Chick and other fundamentalist pastors started the Satanic Panic and many years later, Q-Anon.An Uncensored and Extended version of this episode is available ...

Apr 18, 20222 hr 17 min

Ep. 77: Eric Skwarczynski of the Preacher Boys Podcast (IFB Stories / Cult Stories / Purity Culture / Marriage / Deconstruction / Toxic Masculinity)

We are so excited to be joined by documentarian Eric Skwarczynski of the Preacher Boys Podcast for an enlightening conversation about what it was like growing up as a boy in the IFB! Tune in to hear us talk toxic masculinity, deconstruction, marriage, and movies! For more information about Eric's work documenting church abuse within the IFB movement, visit PreacherBoysDoc.com An Uncensored version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Leaving Eden Podcast Merch available...

Apr 11, 20221 hr 18 min

Ep. 76: Getting Snug with the Dugg Part 2: Walmart Bathroom Pregnancy Test (Duggar In-Laws/Weddings Rundown) (Jinger/Jeremy Vuolo / Justin/Claire / Joseph/Kendra / Josiah/Lauren / Jed/Katey)

On this episode, we continue our snarkable rundown of Duggar in-laws and weddings including but not limited to Jeremy's expensive taste in sneakers, the antics of Justin's mother-in-law Hillary Spivey, and just EVERYTHING about Jed and Katie. Sadie and Gavri'el deliver the goods. Did we miss your favorite snarkable detail? Check out the extended version of this episode at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast with more than 40 minutes of bonus content! Send your missions stories via Email to LeavingEde...

Apr 04, 20222 hr 4 min

Ep. 75: Getting Snug with the Dugg Part 1: No Duggrets (Duggar In-Laws and Weddings Rundown) (Fundie Snark 19KAC / Counting On / IBLP / ATI / Courtship / Marriage / Fundamentalism)

We've been making this show for nearly two years and Gavri'el has still never seen a single full episode of 17/18/19 kids and counting. It's up to Sadie to give him the rundown and an overview of all of the snarkable details of the world's most famous fundie family, the Duggars, and the people who make the highly questionable decision to marry into this family. Today's episode covers Josh's wedding to Anna (née Keller), Jill's wedding to Derick Dillard, and Jessa's wedding to Ben Seewald. An ext...

Mar 28, 20221 hr 51 min

Ep. 74: Q&A Episode Number 3 and Life Update (Parenting / Catholicism / Grief / Unorthodox / Righteous Gemstones / LGBTQ / Formula 1 / Television)

In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el answer listener questions on a variety of topics. Thank you to all of our listeners who have in many different ways supported Sadie and her family following her father's passing. Your actions have made a huge difference for both her and her family. Thank you. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/Eden for 10% off your first month of online therapy. An extended version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast S...

Mar 21, 20222 hr 4 min

February 26 Update

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Feb 26, 20222 min

Ep. 73: The Laws of God vs. The Laws of Men / Terri Schaivo (David Gibbs / Christian Law Association / Politics / IFB / IBLP / Bill Gothard / Fundamentalism)

On this episode, we discuss the Christian Law Association, a "Legal Ministry" set up to provide pro-bono defense for Christians around the country. Be you COVID skeptic, ACE private school, or child molester, the CLA will be there to defend you in court as long as you are also a Christian. You might lose your case (in fact you'll probably lose your case), but at least you'll go to jail knowing that your conviction will be used as evidence of the persecution of Christians in America. Sources for ...

Feb 21, 20221 hr 49 min

Ep. 72: So Prudish It's Accidentally Kinky: The Cult Sex Manual (Intended for Pleasure) (Theology / Fundie Snark / IFB / IBLP / Duggars Snark)

Sadie and Gavri'el review "Intended for Pleasure," the christian fundamentalist sex manual written by Dr. Ed Wheat and his wife, Gaye Wheat. This is a book that teaches young christian couples how to do the sex. Tune in for a few surprises along the way. "Intended for Pleasure" is available for free online here, for your perusal. http://intermin.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Intended-for-Pleasure_-Sex-Tech-Ed-Wheat.pdf This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/Eden for ...

Feb 14, 20221 hr 37 min

Ep. 71: Good Old Fashioned Toxic Masculinity (IFB / Cult Stories / Bullying / Emotion Control / Deconstruction / Purity Culture / LGBT Bullying)

In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el discuss toxic masculinity in fundamentalism. Sadie figures out why boys didn't like her in high school, and the two finish the episode discussing homophobic bullying. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.Com/Eden for 10% off your first month! Uncensored and extended episodes are available on our Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Send your questions via Email to LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.com Leaving Eden Podcast Merch avai...

Feb 07, 20221 hr 57 min

Ep. 70: IBLP Advanced Seminar / Michelle Duggar... Wears Pants? (Fundie Snark / ATI / Bill Gothard / Duggars)

Sadie and Gavri'el explore the absurdity that is Bill Gothard's Institute for Basic Life Principles Advanced Seminar. They play a fun Etiquette guessing game, and talk through the truly loony theology and logic jumps that make this book possible. Then, they discuss Michelle Duggar's SHOCKING decision to (possibly) wear pants in public. This episode was made possible by Stephanie Rice, who sent us a copy of this book. Thank you so much Stephanie, we could not have done this without you. Uncensore...

Jan 31, 20221 hr 53 min
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