#60 - Out Of The Darkness
Jun 23, 2020•1 hr 42 min
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Episode description
Coming out of the darkness and learning not to be afraid of it. Mikey Martin, the drummer for the band Shiny Toy Guns, and Victoria Evigan of Elephant Heart join Billy and Pat on this episode of the Learning to Lose Podcast. They get into Mikey's sober journey, dealing with being diagnosed with MS, and moments in which the divine feels present.
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