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To Panic or Not To Panic?

Mar 07, 20231 hr 16 minSeason 2Ep. 60
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[steph]: Yep, [steph]: No, [roscoe]: So what you're hearing there is we're live day. Dartybroder is in the car right now or doing a car. cast. welcome back to [roscoe]: Leafs late night. Sorry for the delay. Everybody. I know, we usually do this after the game. But someone somebody [roscoe]: had a long day of shoveling snow. Apparently, [steph]: Eh, oh my God, everyone knows in the T. T. even in Autoa. Apparently you sent to pick there. We got a huge dumping of snow

[steph]: and it obviously didn't suffice in one. you know, event of shoveling, you had to do multiple, and then the next day when [steph]: the sun came out, it just turned to heavy wet snow and it was tiring and exhausting And then I fell asleep during the [steph]: game. I'm so sorry, guys. I know, O my God, I was looking Forward to it as well, but yeah, [roscoe]: You didn't miss much at the end. I'll say that lots of things to take away from it will get to that, but yeah, snow

[roscoe]: has been ridiculous. I don't know if it's the same where everybody listening is. I know for our Australian friends, it's [roscoe]: not but [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: my street in particular, like I don't know how to describe it, other than I can't see out of my driveway because the snow [roscoe]: banks are really tall and it's like that for the whole street like it's insane.

[steph]: Same here. yeh, look out the window. You just see a white and yeah, my arms, my back. They still hurt like I'm still recover [steph]: here, but I can't imagine for dirty. I think you're in the north and now, like near Keswick or something. You guys must [steph]: have had a ship on the snow.

[darty]: Yeah, so funny, you said. I don't know what you said. My arms, my back, and all of a sudden my mind went to my neck, [darty]: my back, but then I also went [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: to my back Is broken spinal. [roscoe]: Uh, [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: so I get a [roscoe]: uh, [darty]: little bit of two vives going on here. But yeah, it was pretty bad, except that dirty lives a very privilege life, and

[darty]: that his. His driveway is very small now in comparison to his old driveway, and all four cars are on the driveway, so [darty]: the amount of snow I had to shovel was minimal. They took up the entire [steph]: Nice. [darty]: space, which is not something [roscoe]: M. [darty]: Dart has ever [roscoe]: H. [darty]: experienced in his life. I have consistently lived in the sticks with dirt roads, and shoveling was the most atrocious

[darty]: thing. but I'm not gonna stand here, but you're not a Mary already had it rough for anything. It's just I hate shoveling, [darty]: so like now in my new semi domestic life Like it. It was nice to know that. Oh, it's just as like Okay, Go shovel [darty]: the pathway and like that's great because the path Way is only like maybe a couple of yards. you know, lie like [steph]: M.

[darty]: it's not. It's not like I have to travel like you know, an entire kilometer with the fucking shoveling just to get out [darty]: of my driveway. you know like it's thank God [steph]: Did you also walk to school uphill both ways in like six feet of snow Back in your [darty]: Back [steph]: day. [darty]: in my day just to get a comic book and have to walk like five. six, maybe ten clicks. I don't remember any more to the

[darty]: general to the general store I steal money from from my mom's fucking bowl of change. Get like [steph]: Oh [darty]: five bucks. You know, scroundjump enough for a Bongo Simpson's comic. and maybe just maybe enough for like a Jolt [darty]: cola. All right, [steph]: Yes, [roscoe]: You. [darty]: We're wearing my Thomas Caberlay jersey.

[steph]: Yes, [roscoe]: You know what, And with the mention of Thomas Caberlay, let's get to the leaf's welcome back to Leafs late night where [roscoe]: it's never too late for the leaves. [roscoe]: Everything is awesome. Everything is totally fine. I'm not projecting positivity into the world at all, because we definitely [roscoe]: need it right now. Welcome back. I'm your host, Rosco, joined by step, the finals and dart broder. as you have heard

[roscoe]: already. Yeah, so without really getting into the nittygrity of the game to start here, the alarm bells are going off on Twitter. [roscoe]: In the media, I'm sure on Facebook and everywhere you can express you Opinions, it is discourse about the Leafs and [roscoe]: it's not good, so unfortunately I know you fell asleep, but to run you through the things that happened in this game

[roscoe]: first period extremely physical. We say J. C, J. T, get absolutely mode down twice within like two three minutes. [roscoe]: Matthews blocks a shot in the first period, hitting him on the inside of the knee. He luckily came back. I think [roscoe]: it wasn't the end of the first. It wasn't second And then in the third period, We have or no, I think it was in the

[roscoe]: second, Even Riley blocking a shot hitting his finger. I think it was from even Matthews, so it wasn't on purpose at [roscoe]: all, and he was seen in the arena with a splint on his finger, which we now know is broken with no time table for return. [roscoe]: So that is not one, not two but three centers that are now less than a hundred percent, And that's putting it lightly. [steph]: Uh, yeah. I watched the first. Okay. [roscoe]: I know

[steph]: This game was hot and heavy like, I mean, people were all over the ice. Luke Shin coming back in his return not too [steph]: long after trade deadline in the opposite dressing room, And then we're so excited about Matt Murray returning Right? [steph]: Is he going to put on a murazick performance or a Murray perform performance? [roscoe]: It's a good one. [steph]: I tweeted out, You know, Game day to eat, and I accidentally put in a morazic gift and someone called me on on it and I was

[steph]: still seeing seeing stars from shelf. I swear. so so yeah, that's where that came from, but yeah, man, like seeing [steph]: Lushin throws weight around and everyone, I guess helping out, but I noticed a lot of penalties to right like Trana with [steph]: three penalties in the first period, [roscoe]: Jake [steph]: Vancouver [roscoe]: Mckabe, [steph]: with [roscoe]: casually [steph]: two.

[roscoe]: going to the box for seventeen minutes, which I've [steph]: Oh [roscoe]: never [steph]: my god. [roscoe]: seen before. Like the guy. If I'm remembering this correctly, because I was, I apologize. I was planning on doing one that [roscoe]: night, so I didn't take notes on this. Um, somebody was hit And and she jumped in and Bunting jumped in, And then [roscoe]: Mckabe finally comes in and starts the fight. so he gets an instigator. Do you have the penalty in front of you?

[roscoe]: I think it was instigat Fighting and attend ment misconduct. [steph]: Yeah, yeah, so first it was for fighting than ten minute misconduct, like you said, and instigator, yea, like I listened [steph]: to this, and the commentators were just like. Oh, are they pulling this out of their sort of thing Because first minute [steph]: we're getting a two minute or five minute major, and then it turns into like seventeen minutes off the bat.

[roscoe]: Yeah, it wasn't until the second period that Jake Mc Abe came out of the box, which is insane, because the leaves [roscoe]: were playing short already. It's just yeah, super fun, [steph]: Yeah, and another thing I noticed in the first that they mentioned was that you know the leaves have not scored more than [steph]: one power play goal yet this season. in a singular game [roscoe]: Huh, [steph]: I did not realize this.

[roscoe]: They, also on a positive note, haven't been shet out in like a hundred and thirty something games. They have the N [roscoe]: h record for most consecutive games with a goal that's insane. That's this entire year and most of last year that they [roscoe]: haven't been shut out.

[steph]: Yeah, and also you know that's your dem co, coming back. This is the third game back after sitting majority of the year [steph]: right, This guy hasn't played and he's coming off a five, four winn Dallas, and then a two one lost posting in nine forty [steph]: four S percentage. I didn't really know where this would go because everyone's telling us you know Vancouver is so horrible.

[steph]: Blababablabla and then we look at the record. Man Leaves has lost the last six Teen out of eighteen in Vancouver, and [steph]: the last six straight. I believe in their city as well. [roscoe]: Yeah, six different [steph]: So [roscoe]: goals too. [steph]: Oh my god, Dart, Did you catch the game at all?

[darty]: I was listening to bits and base the game, and of course, like you, [roscoe]: Oh, [darty]: always [roscoe]: I think he's [darty]: catch [roscoe]: still [darty]: the [roscoe]: muted [darty]: game on [roscoe]: over [darty]: Twitter. [roscoe]: there. [darty]: All right, you know, you know exactly [steph]: It's all right.

[darty]: people's. You know how the game is going, based on the on the Re Tweeds and the twets. All right, because that first [darty]: period obviously was pretty [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: funking. you know, hot for the leaves in a positive way, but oh, you know, now I was actually thinking in the top of my [darty]: head, you know, like I mentioned earlier on Twitter about Murphy's Law, but I was going to say there's got to be a new

[darty]: law called Dubiss Law, which is no good Trade acquisition goes uninjured. All right, That's that's Dubois [steph]: Right. [darty]: law for you. Okay and totally fuck, can we not catch a break with our, you know, with our big trades, Just like nobody. [darty]: Nobody, nobody can stay healthy. What's going on and what's going on there? but the game, The game itself, it was.

[darty]: I said. It just turned out if I'm goin, if I'm gonna gloss over everything. not just this game but the past couple

[darty]: of games. obviously, Um, the visual. The grand visual is not looking good because of you know, we all were on a huge [darty]: high because of all these I really nice pieces that we picked up, and for you know, for what we gave away, Basically, [darty]: I think the only thing anybody really cared about was Rasmassandine, and I feel like that, especially with that game

[darty]: is smething. that will bite us a little bit like it doesn't feel quite as nice now losing Sanden, But it's just if I could [darty]: say something before I get cut off. Don't like. Don't turn the alarm bells on Yet. I know I've said a lot of ship, [darty]: because that's what I do. I talk ship. but the alarm bells are not on for me. All right, this Dubois guy. He's got [darty]: it figured out. He's got some bad fucking luck though, but he's got it figured out.

[roscoe]: Yeah, honestly, it just comes down to luck at this point with these injuries. it's so kind. O noying, but okay, So to [roscoe]: start with the first period to take some positives away, the leaves played a physical game they were able to keep up, [roscoe]: and honestly, like I twitted it out, I said this is a different team. Everybody was answering the call and keeping

[roscoe]: up with everything Vancouver was throwing out. Matthews and Marner were adjusting to being hit. They even mentioned on [roscoe]: the broadcast, You know when there's somebody basically hunting you, the whole game. You, You don't get that space like

[roscoe]: the leaves usually have where there's a box That they're just kind of passing around Trying to find an opening. This was [roscoe]: someone constantly chasing them down And you know they were able to get away from that and it seemed pretty even in

[roscoe]: the first period. So [steph]: Also, you know, shots fourteen to five for Toronto in the first, but at the same time when you lose Jake Mc Cabe to [steph]: penalty for majority of the period, you're down another D and you're already down forward with Matthews going out, so [steph]: you're down to ten forwards and six D. and then the rotation kind of gets jumbled, because once J. T did he sit for a couple

[steph]: shifts there right, and with all these penalties these lines must have been just I don't know. brutal. [roscoe]: Oh, it was a mess. And and really the problem came down to. I, I'm not sure if you caught this. I guess this wasn't the [roscoe]: third. the the least. picking up. Finally a double minor. They get four minutes to try to open this game up. It was tied

[roscoe]: one one and twice in forty four seconds. Vancouver scores a short handed goal. This was just abysmal. It was like a lot [roscoe]: of people throwing this on Morgan Riley. I personally, and I mean, Tardy brought it. We try to standing for Gustafson. [roscoe]: I know Gustison has an offensive upside. He had a hat trick against the leaves this year, but I mean, [steph]: Yep,

[roscoe]: that's almost half of his entire goals for the year, so that's a little scared. He since has he's joined the leaf? [roscoe]: All I can say is he's a butter finger Like the amount that this [steph]: M.

[roscoe]: guy has had the puck slip off of his stick at the blue line and caused to turnover is a little concerning. I know it's [roscoe]: only been a few games with him, but it's It's just frustrating to watch because I know he has that, and on the other side, you [roscoe]: C. C. Dean getting three assists in his first game with the Capitals. [darty]: Okay, so [roscoe]: So [darty]: hold [roscoe]: it was. [darty]: up. hold up. hold [steph]: Yeah,

[darty]: up. Everybody [roscoe]: It's a little annoying to watch. [darty]: here here's my question for you, all right, Because this is is just going to change the perspective of how we're going [darty]: to talk about sanding. All right. Do you guys not think that this guy actually wanted to go? Because if we're looking [darty]: at like, you know, why would we trade a guy like Sandy Like he obviously has more than just potential. you know he.

[darty]: I don't think he was. He's marginally better like, Don't think Ugustison's that much better or worse or whatever. Like. [darty]: I don't see why you make this trade right. So if you, if you had To think, why the fuck is this trade happening Is [darty]: he really? Because like dubs, knows that sanding like not necessarily wants out, but there's that sour taste in everybody's

[darty]: mouth because of the that hold out for one point. For you know, there must be some some bad blood there, and I don't [darty]: mean like we shipped him out, but more so like This was kind of a favor done on both sides. That's what I'm trying to [darty]: say, because there's no, I like justice in. I like what he did for me in fantasy, but I would have rather kept sanding

[darty]: right. So where's the know? Where's the? You know? They say the roofs in the pudding. Where's the fucking pudding? Right? [darty]: Like explain. [roscoe]: I would say it's going to come down to the resigning of both players. like to, son. You're going to be able to potentially [roscoe]: maintain Just the guy is only on an eight hundred thousand dollar contract this year. You can probably get him for what

[roscoe]: you sign sanding for this year. Like maybe like one on one. If you want to keep him around. Maybe he sticks around [roscoe]: for the same. S On this year. Sanden s going a pop off in the next couple of seasons and he's going to want more and [roscoe]: more and money and I don't think the Leafs can keep, like I've said, it was always going to be him or Lolagran Thought

[roscoe]: it was going to be sand that they kept around. But I guess because the value was there, they were able to move them. [roscoe]: I don't know. I think if there was an offer for Liligrand, they probably would have done the same, but the interest was [roscoe]: in San Dine, so that's what happened and now Washington is gonna have to try to fit him in, And I think it makes more

[roscoe]: sense for them. They're an aging team. They need to start bringing in some new people and the leaves are in Win now, [roscoe]: and Sanine wasn't going to get first pair of minutes with the leaves. And now look, he's literally straight to the [roscoe]: first parent. Washington. [steph]: Also Kyle devises little project here needs to play and in order to do that, we had to move out some capital in order

[steph]: to re, activate him. So by these moves we had to activate Matt Murray, right and sanden. Once Jake Mccave came in and everyone [steph]: else, he just got pushed down the chart. Well Keef's chart right, We know he has potential. We know. Um, he was on [steph]: P. P. To, We Ve seen what he can do in the last five years with the organization, but he can't play the right side.

[steph]: We've tried that. Been there. done that note, the new acquisitions. they fill holes that we need. not just the offensive [steph]: side but the D, which is, everyone's been talking about the physicality, Even though Sandi led the D and Hits, not going [steph]: to live before Lucsian's days. [roscoe]: Throw some big [steph]: It's [roscoe]: ones. [steph]: just yeah, like this hurts. I know this hurts for life's nation. But we got a first back.

[roscoe]: I was going to say You [steph]: We [roscoe]: do [steph]: got [roscoe]: get the first. [steph]: you get the first, which is the biggest thing. You scratch each other's backs like you said Dart. Because it was prime time [steph]: opportunity for dubs. He held out last summer. you know, gave him the contract at the end of the day. Now he's doing well [steph]: even though he missed some training camp. Sandy fully, said, Um, It's been a rough start like it's been a low start,

[steph]: but we immediately acquire someone who leads the team in points for defenders and has power play. You know, Opportunity, [steph]: like off the bat, because he ran Washington's power play unit, So it's it's tough to see the butter fingers happen with [steph]: Guess right now, Because you want that hole to be immediately filled. You don't want any mistakes, but people have to realize [steph]: we're pretty much plugging imnubion, every single line [roscoe]: Yeah,

[steph]: after dread. trade deadline, here on the road, the leaves in Vancouver game. Wmas, the fourth game or Fourth game? third [steph]: game in four nights, or whatever it was or three nights, or yeah, it's just been a lot and I don't know it hurts. but [steph]: at the same time it was time. [roscoe]: Yeah, and look, look around. Tampa is on a five game losing streak. I don't know if you guys saw this, but cutoff

[roscoe]: point and stam. Cos, were bench for the entire third period and then the next game they get shut out Six. Nothing [roscoe]: to Carolina. So I mean, if you want to sound the alarm bells here, it's not like everything is honk dory on the other [roscoe]: side of this round one match up and nothing is going to change Like they could really both go on a couple game skid [roscoe]: here, and it's still going to be the two of them, but it [steph]: Yeah,

[roscoe]: It just goes to show that this is going to happen. I'd rather people playing well, but maybe a little banked up before [roscoe]: the playoffs. and hopefully they're all back then, like your top line cracking under pressure right now, because that [roscoe]: seems weird for for Tampa, especially defensively. they're collapsing. So I don't know. [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: this is kind of the better of the two. It seems like Matthews is okay. J. T. Ll be back in a few. hopefully fingers

[roscoe]: crossed. Oriole. S the one that I just don't know [steph]: Yeah, and that just my last point on Sandy. You know, the guy always wanted ice time and it wasn't going to happen [steph]: in Toronto. Unfortunately, and I don't know. I just I feel everyone's still complaining on Twitter. And I saw your

[steph]: tweet there dirty, too. You said he was a piss baby. I saw that, But I don't know. Now we have a new guys. I'm honestly [steph]: utterly shocked that we have Shin and Mccabe, Like I thought, if Dubs was out to get a player like that, it would [steph]: have been one. Not both. [roscoe]: I know and of course the report comes in. He was swinging on Eric Carlson, but of course the price was away too high. [steph]: Oh yeah, yeah,

[roscoe]: Okay, so P continued to be good in the first. I'm just looking through things that wetted. Oh, I'm gon Kevin. B. First [roscoe]: intermission is like, You know Matthews could be fine, but you know something like that could also be a really small [roscoe]: M. C. L. terror. it's like Don't don't put that out in the universe, you dick. That's just [steph]: M. [roscoe]: we don't need that. [steph]: Yeah, but

[roscoe]: Oh, the cool thing was when what was it that happened? Was it? when Riley went down? something happened that they moved [roscoe]: to Varas, Marner and Matthews onto one line together. I think it was because Matthews. Oh, it was when he came back

[roscoe]: out after he was hurt. he came back out onto the wing, and to Varas and Marner were already out there, so that it was [roscoe]: like the thirty three million dollar line for the first time [steph]: Wow, [roscoe]: in No five on five, So I thought that was pretty cool. [steph]: Um, go ahead, Ardy. [darty]: I'm glad you're actually looking at the screen. I really appreciate that, [steph]: Yeah,

[darty]: So I have. I have Park now, [steph]: no, [darty]: So there's no [steph]: I [darty]: more [steph]: saw you. [darty]: illegal illegal interaction on the show. I am. The first thing I want to say is that I want to congratulate Bxffor getting [darty]: his degree at Web, M D University All right, [roscoe]: Uh, uh, [steph]: M. [darty]: And and second, I also want to say I did not call Sandy a Pis baby, but I might have retweeted it so [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: that those are [roscoe]: M.

[darty]: not my words. Whoever Me up, the term [steph]: Um, [darty]: pis baby, like I've there's always something new I can add to my vocabulary. M. Yeah, there's some definitely some scary [darty]: scary moments out there, but I'm glad that Johnny brought that up about that that to Varus Matthews, and was Tmarsmathe's [darty]: Marter line. Yeah, [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: it's like less. we forget that we still have some of the best players in the N, regardless of they're going through

[darty]: a slump. And so sometimes all it takes is just you know, Just got to change. rearrange the Quation and things can you [darty]: know? They don't always look look great. But the thing is is that that is possible. now. I'm gonna jump forward in the

[darty]: conversation, but you don't have to refer to it right now, but talking about rearranging equations. Unfortunately, [darty]: I don't think everybody is very happy when they have to rearrange the equation by putting her foot on the first line. [darty]: But you know you know Selav. Guess [steph]: Keith said, Curfoot's been playing better than bunting, and he's earned that first line role. We all know Keith sees

[steph]: all, but at the same time it's like you see the line up O're like. What the hell? What? What's going on here? And [steph]: seeing J T in a gray sweater today kind of throws you off in a sense, but yeah, [roscoe]: I feel like Since the acquisitions we've talked about this through, Kurfoot's been playing a lot better, and I've noticed [roscoe]: over the last month or so, Bunting's discipline has really gotten a little bit of hack like there's a difference

[roscoe]: between being annoying and just being like Jordan Bennington, and it seems like he's starting to lean towards that where he's [roscoe]: like getting too riled up about things, and when there's no call made, you can hear him yelling, like on the broadcast [roscoe]: you can hear him down on the ice, and I don't know things that are going to get him called more often than it's being effect

[roscoe]: If I think he just needs to be careful with how he's playing this game and remember what the objective is and not [roscoe]: get so emotional with it. [darty]: He needs to get a phone call from Nasumqadri. Okay, because that's very [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: qadrieske. [steph]: Uh, [darty]: very like [steph]: uh. [darty]: not cadre, as we know him [roscoe]: Very [darty]: now, [roscoe]: much. Yeah, [darty]: but care as we knew him. All right, I'll stop talking now.

[roscoe]: No hundred percent. That's really good comparison. it's it's old cadre, old leaf cadre. [steph]: Well, the biggest thing that sticks out to me is for that game. Anyway. Are these two shorthanded goals on the same [steph]: power play opportunity [roscoe]: Yeah, [steph]: for for the Vancouver connects. Just What? what now? Right? like? just learning this after this game that the leaves [steph]: haven't scored more than one power play goal in a single game. This is my biggest worry. like

[roscoe]: That's a. I mean. that's not something to really worry about, because look one, one power play goal on two opportunities [roscoe]: is fifty per cent. One power play goal on three opportunities is thirty three percent. One [darty]: Yeah, [roscoe]: on four opportunities is twenty five percent. All of those you are still either number one or in the top four in the [roscoe]: league. Like [steph]: For sure, but [roscoe]: it doesn't. [steph]: my [roscoe]: really. [steph]: point.

[roscoe]: It doesn't really [steph]: yeah, [roscoe]: like. the leaves don't get that many calls in a game any way. Like how many power play opportunities do? They haven't [roscoe]: even had a five on three this entire season, [steph]: That's true, and they also took the least amount of penalties in the month of February, but at the same time it's you know, [steph]: when you have so many opportunities, it's what make or break the game. And the first goal for Vancouver was on the power

[steph]: play. the second one for the Leaves, also on the power play, But it seems like five on five. [roscoe]: The [steph]: nothing [roscoe]: only [steph]: was [roscoe]: one for [steph]: budging, [roscoe]: the leaves, [darty]: You know what. I just want to. [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: I [steph]: the [darty]: just [steph]: only [darty]: want [steph]: one. [darty]: to point [steph]: sorry,

[darty]: out that I honestly love our Uncle John's bathroom reader version of sucking. You know, fancy statistics are fancy facts [darty]: about the leaves like these are the worst possible. Like you know, records that the leaves could have you know like it's [darty]: just like like [roscoe]: M. [darty]: nobody wants to know this. You know what I mean. Like [steph]: M, [roscoe]: But, but really, like I put a pull out, I said. What's the most concerning right now? Riley's hand, Matthew's leg, or

[roscoe]: Morgan's Riley, Because I thought that was funny. Yes, I spelled Riley wrong. I know. Um, there was one, two, three, [roscoe]: four five. I don't know. Like twelve. All of the above and a lot of people saying the power Play specifically, Um. Fulton [roscoe]: read saying the power play getting thirty seven likes. So [steph]: Hm,

[roscoe]: a lot of people In between. I mean, there were seven hundred votes of Power Play would still probably be up there, [roscoe]: Morgan, Riley, being number one, closely followed Bio, Riley's hand and the power [darty]: Who's [roscoe]: play. [darty]: surprised [roscoe]: So [darty]: by a life defense [roscoe]: I mean,

[darty]: man taking a fucking ship kicking? You know what I mean from the fans that [steph]: M. [roscoe]: Yeah, ever since, I mean, since I was a kid, Mcabancaberle and then Gardener, like there's always somebody [darty]: The [roscoe]: right [darty]: life [roscoe]: So [steph]: The Gardener [darty]: lies [steph]: Express [darty]: version of curse, [steph]: way.

[darty]: Employe the month you know [roscoe]: So to not spend time ripping on that because it's a little played out the power play itself like, Yeah, it's an issue, [roscoe]: but like I said, if they're scoring one a game unless they're getting like more than four opportunities. That's not [roscoe]: overly concerning. Would it help them yah? But like they're five on five game has been good, so I'm not really worried

[roscoe]: about that. Like, like if they're scoring three, four, five, six goals a game like they have been in the last two months, [roscoe]: And they're still only scoring one of the power play and all those games like. it's not a problem. [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: Like how many [steph]: I guess [roscoe]: games? [steph]: it's just disappointing.

[roscoe]: How many games do you think they would have won if they gotten one more power play goal this year? Like there's very [roscoe]: few, they either win or they get blown out like they don't really lose by a goal anywhere in the season. [steph]: I was looking at our New Jersey stots looking forward and we lost the last one by one and same with Boston like it [steph]: adds up, man, like just the power play and thinking of how, I mean, we're fourth overall, but

[roscoe]: Yeah, exactly out of thirty two. Like [steph]: Carolina converted on four out of five power play opportunities yesterday when blowing out Tampa sick. Nothing [roscoe]: Okay, are they? Are they in the top three above us on the power play? [steph]: They are. I'm not too sure off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure they're doing well. They must be with its new [steph]: acquisitions. Oh my God, just seeing that though, And like [roscoe]: You know what their power play is?

[steph]: What, [roscoe]: You said Okay, So one for five, even twelfth, so throw your [steph]: Okay, [roscoe]: point out the window. Only Edmonton, Tampa and L have a better power play than the Leaves do. like. I don't understand [roscoe]: this argument that the leaves power play sucks. It's twenty five percent. They're just better [steph]: I'm not [roscoe]: than [steph]: saying [roscoe]: Buffalo, [steph]: it sucks. [roscoe]: but a lot of people are. [steph]: Yeah,

[roscoe]: a lot of people are saying it's the most concerning thing. They are fourth in the league on the power play. They [roscoe]: are first in the east. Well, sorry, second, other than Tampa on Tampa is only less than half a per cent ahead of them [roscoe]: like they're both at twenty five per cent.

[steph]: So Carolina's twelfth in the league, And what do they do at trade deadline pick up Shane Goss to spare to anchor that [steph]: second unit boom, four points and two games called Kinyemi Career Hive Five point night, Three or four of those points came

[steph]: on the power play like it's just crazy how these fixtures will like impact your team in this aspect. So as Leaf fans, I [steph]: think the expectation is a little high because we have these bigger names And you know [roscoe]: Yeah, [steph]: Yeah, yeah, [roscoe]: and one [steph]: yeah, [roscoe]: of them has a broken finger and one of them got waked in the head, and one of them got shot to the knee. If you give

[roscoe]: a couple of games for this to work, these guys are on a, have the best power Like, even better than Tampa. That's all [roscoe]: they [steph]: Yes, [roscoe]: need to be, and they're barely worse [steph]: agreed, [roscoe]: than them. Go ahead, [steph]: agreed [roscoe]: tardy. [darty]: So sorry, so just give you another crazy anecdote Is that someone famous? I once said that if you mind your own biscets,

[darty]: life will be gravy. and unfortunately for the leaves, is that when it comes to those opportunities to, to you know, [darty]: whin those tight games right when on went down to one goal you, we don't find the biscuit getting in the back of the [darty]: net and I think when we're I said, which I was talking with Bag Head and I was talking about. Like those fans who just

[darty]: seem to sit there in that negative pit of despair And you know, never get out. It's like we. There's a reason Why this [darty]: is not like unheard of. Because you know you are. People say you are what your record says. You are. okay. Yes, we are [darty]: fourth, but you know another record we have is fucking disappointing failure. All right, it's not coming through when

[darty]: we need it, and the one time we need to see it. unfortunately it sucks are those stupid bullshit games that come down to those [darty]: on one goal, regardless of whether we're paying a bottom feeder or a good team. And if we can't see that in the regular [darty]: season, how the hell are we supposed to expect that from them in game seven. I know it sounds crazy. I know it sounds

[darty]: like I'm shouting to the clouds, but it's true. How can we expect that of them when the fucking time comes already, My [darty]: coaches through the years of playing fucking pe sports to high school football. they constantly always tell you, because [darty]: I know this because I was a ship player and I barely. I probably have more splinters on my ass from riding playing

[darty]: than anything else. I know this because the term is practice how you fucking play all right, And if the regular season is [darty]: just practice, then win those King games. Holy shit, [roscoe]: Uh, [steph]: A bitch. Yes, girl, [darty]: So [steph]: please [darty]: sorry [steph]: yell [darty]: for everybody's [steph]: that to the [darty]: audio, but that's like. I don't want to be a bad head. I don't want to be that guy that's constantly shipping on the

[darty]: leaves, But I understand the fury. I understand your pain, and I understand why people are telling Morgan Riley, calling [darty]: the new Jake Gardener, because we want to see them do it in the regular season, even though we know their chance games [darty]: or bullshit games or bottom feeder teams, Because if we see, we see them doing it in those moments, we can feel more

[darty]: confident about them doing it in a game. Seven, Hell in a game Five, All right, It's yes. this. this is just a small [darty]: sample size. These four games. you know, the good thing you guys mentioned was about Tampa, Like I did bring that up

[darty]: as like. How can we? You know we're sitting on the least right now, But how are the other teams doing? And I actually [darty]: didn't know I was expecting people to answer, because I like, I tweattriter, like ogle, and the people did answer [roscoe]: M. [darty]: right. the people [roscoe]: hm. [darty]: answered. Finish now, [roscoe]: Yeah, [steph]: Yeah [roscoe]: No, [steph]: and [roscoe]: Tampa [steph]: look at [roscoe]: is [steph]: Twitter right. [roscoe]: on a skid man.

[steph]: Yeah, like I've seen twits today being like Kit has lost the locker room. Oh my God, he's lost this team. Now. Faris is [steph]: practising on the fourth line. What is wrong with him? [roscoe]: Oh my [steph]: Like? [roscoe]: God, [steph]: a lot of this is just ignorance because they don't know what's actually going on with a depth of injury and such, But [steph]: the other half is what Dart's mentioning. this p, t, s, p, t, s. D moment where it comes back. It's like these haunting

[steph]: memories Like we want to see it now or else we don't think it can happen later. And yeah, everyone's kind of pissed, [steph]: but we're We're not like that. We. we watch every game almost and break this ship down and realize you know we can take [steph]: the good parts out of this game, right Murray is back. [roscoe]: And [steph]: He had [roscoe]: he [steph]: a solid [roscoe]: that [steph]: game.

[roscoe]: save on that two on o or two on one where he kicked all the way across the net. That was crazy. That [steph]: Yes, [roscoe]: should have gone in. [steph]: Yeah, considering that we lost like, even though he posted, what was it? A? eight thirty three right. Not [roscoe]: Not [steph]: like [roscoe]: his fault. [steph]: not a lot of shots on that. it's not his fault.

[roscoe]: The first one that went in. he was, Justin Hall, was standing literally directly in front of him, like he loves to [roscoe]: do and not block the [steph]: Double [roscoe]: shot. [steph]: deflection. [roscoe]: Yeah, [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: and he blocked it went off of his leg or something and into the net because he's so great at screening, And then the [roscoe]: other ones were all just the turnovers off the the power play and then they scored an empty nutter.

[steph]: Yeah, we find out you know Ryan Riley breaks his finger, but he could have been worse like Marty tweeted. Today showed [steph]: out Marty just saying he could have in like, broke his back right, and could not be back for the playoffs [roscoe]: Yeah, [steph]: Like we know this is an injury. that he's going to come back fully healthy. Cadre and Gadroe did it within ten fucking

[steph]: days last year and came back and played. I'm sure he'll be fine And then the whole J. T thing like he took the day, Was [steph]: the last one on the ice at practice to see how we felt and trust me those trainers. If there is any signs of concussion, [steph]: they will not let him put on a jersey. So these are good sciences and we have to take them, appreciate them and move forward

[steph]: and welcome back Lilegrin next game. And you know we'll see who's a net. Does Murray get the next start? Do you guys [steph]: think? [roscoe]: That's a tough one. Actually, I mean, I think because of how long there's been between games. Like why not? Sammy clearly [roscoe]: was playing a little hurt waiting for Marie to come back. So

[steph]: Yeah, and also just a plus for the Vancouver side of it all this game. Quin Hughes becomes the fastest defender in [steph]: Anchel history to reach two hundred assist. [roscoe]: That's [steph]: Just [roscoe]: pretty cool. [steph]: beating out. Yeah, Brian Leach, body or he did it in two sixty three. Brian Leached in two sixty four.

[roscoe]: Wow, good [darty]: And [roscoe]: for [darty]: the [roscoe]: him [darty]: feel [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: good story about all [steph]: yeah, [darty]: of this [roscoe]: last. [darty]: by the way is that the Leafs are continuing their good charity and allowing the Vancouver Connect to have a wonderful [darty]: victory over. you know the big Bad leaf. You know everybody. Any time they play the leaf it it feels great to be at the leaf

[darty]: so well, you know what. we did Them a fucking [steph]: M, [darty]: solid because their [steph]: M, [darty]: dumpster fire of a team and their idiot of a fucking management aquiline. They, finally, they have something to look [darty]: forward to. I saw the rings out there from Casco, Twitter. All right, [roscoe]: M. [darty]: so enjoy [roscoe]: hm, [darty]: your win Is because I'm sorry, Shadow, to not go from nuckmeams, but you're fucking suck. so there you go. [roscoe]: Yah,

[steph]: And another thing to write, Lucan. His wife's giving birth in the next like any second now, so they left him behind [steph]: and actually rented out ice for him to practice on and left a trainer back with him Like the Leafs are very dedicated [steph]: to get all of their new players to jail with this team. Like even leaving back a trainer with him like, Wow, like, I [roscoe]: Yeah,

[steph]: was shocked to hear this, but moving forward, the other plus side, home, Urg and Steve's are called up. Homeburg obviously [steph]: played his way into this roster before trade deadline and he shown us what he could do like. I was pretty confident [steph]: in camp in Homeburg, as our bottom six centers, We got to this point in the season thanks to you know, the buds before

[steph]: trade deadline. I think Steve's, for example, is going to light a fire under everyone's but just bringing this fast [steph]: pace game Up to speed because it feels like the leaves haven't been up to speed right, and [roscoe]: No [steph]: like they need like [roscoe]: one of [steph]: a [roscoe]: those [steph]: little kicking [roscoe]: who [steph]: the butt.

[roscoe]: who were they playing the other day where it was like they were constantly losing every race to the puck Like I forget [roscoe]: who one of their opponents was the last couple [steph]: Calgary, [roscoe]: o games. Yeah, I was Calgary, where it was like every time they were going for it, it was like guys. How were you losing [roscoe]: every foot race for this? I know you guys aren't slow. Like what's going on? So just somebody to get them back up to

[roscoe]: speed. Really? it would be nice. Last thing I want to [steph]: We [roscoe]: say about [steph]: see. [roscoe]: the power play though, because I'm still [steph]: yeah, [roscoe]: looking at this thing. Fun fact, [steph]: yeah, [roscoe]: Edmonton was The best power play in the league right now. It's just under thirty. Two percent has had two hundred

[roscoe]: and twenty six power play attempts, which is second to Autowa. Only the leaves, however, [steph]: Wow, [roscoe]: have had thirty five less power plays at a hundred and ninety one, putting them nineteenth of thirty two in the league. [roscoe]: So anybody complaining about the power play their fourth for percentage, like ninth, for or seventh for actual power play [roscoe]: goals, and their nine Tenth for opportunities to do so. [steph]: Okay,

[roscoe]: So shove it. I know Morgan [steph]: Wow, [roscoe]: Riley is not playing well offensively right now, or maybe defensively do, but everybody else is picking up the slack. [steph]: Yeah, Well, it was evident when we had the five forward power player as well, it. it worked when it worked and then it [steph]: didn't work when it didn't like. It's nice to have that mix up there, but now that we have now all year, the leaves have

[steph]: been battling injury and this adversity, and we're here for a reason, and now we get to use a new bud. you know, Lardy, [steph]: plugging in on the second line at center right. This was a capability as a a plus, coming to the last right [roscoe]: Oh, happy [steph]: you can't [roscoe]: birthday, [steph]: have [roscoe]: by the way, [steph]: and happy Elated birthday, Sam Lafferty. [roscoe]: Isn't it today [steph]: Um, [roscoe]: or was it say or was it yesterday [steph]: it was yesterday.

[roscoe]: now? [steph]: Yeah, but it's nice to have an extra center option and then they trust him enough to plug him on the second line like [steph]: that's That's good and it's not her foot right, like her foot still on the first line left wing,

[roscoe]: Yeah, okay, so we got to go to questions because we got a bunch of them and we're going to run at a time. So first [roscoe]: of one, [steph]: Okay, [roscoe]: Zach Nelson pulled up the picture from the broadcast where they showed the Leafs lost five straight in Vancouver.

[roscoe]: So Michael Hutchinson, here, you know what I gave you guys, Hutchinson. See if you can name the other four goals that [roscoe]: the Leaves have lost their last four games to Vancouver with [steph]: Gran, [roscoe]: No. [steph]: Oh, mara, [roscoe]: Yep. [steph]: Um, campbell, [roscoe]: Yep, [steph]: Um, [darty]: Anderson. Yeah, [steph]: Anderson [roscoe]: Yep, and [steph]: And [darty]: Sparks, [roscoe]: Nope. [steph]: Oh, [roscoe]: it was twenty twenty one.

[darty]: Castmrcascasio, [steph]: Oh wall, [roscoe]: No, [steph]: M, [roscoe]: but if [steph]: Hm, [roscoe]: you guys missed it, Casimir Casco, so nailed a rap in the back of the head with a water bottle from like forty feet [roscoe]: away and it was sick. [steph]: Yeah, join the M. l. B man like well, That was a nice task. [roscoe]: Okay. I'll give you guys [darty]: David [roscoe]: one more [darty]: Rid, [roscoe]: guest. Hell. Yeah, it's David Reddick, [darty]: Did I [steph]: Yeah,

[darty]: finally got a fucking question right out of every single episode? I'm [steph]: Thinking [darty]: terrible of [steph]: day, [darty]: these. I'm terrible [roscoe]: M. [darty]: of these. I finally got one thing right, Just one. like miniscul [roscoe]: Nicely [darty]: part. [roscoe]: done. nicely done. Um, So [steph]: Nice [roscoe]: the actual question from Zach Nelson Murray was awesome tonight. What is going on with Matthews right now? He seems off.

[roscoe]: So what's going on with Matthews right now? [steph]: Man. I think everyone has this expectation that he's going to instantly score fifty again and his name has been plastered [steph]: absolutely everywhere from N H, L covers times two, two commercials. To you know, the expectation is high. He's deep

[steph]: in this league now and coming off this year and on pace for thirty goals and like ninety points. people think he's going [steph]: downhill when technically he's still an amazing player. [roscoe]: I just want to [steph]: Hm. [roscoe]: pull up a graphic that Marty posted. Shout out, This is Matthew's last year Versus this year, So after fifty six games [roscoe]: goals for on ice, he's looking at sixty three expected last year and fifty six this year. So let's down on ice [steph]: Hm,

[roscoe]: goals against last year, forty seven this year, twenty eight. So if you're asking what's going on with Austin, [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: He is scoring a couple less goals while stopping twenty of them from going in. so he's [steph]: Leading [roscoe]: changing [steph]: forwards [roscoe]: his game up. [steph]: with blocks. Yeah, I think he's second on the lead in the on the team with blocks, [roscoe]: Oh [steph]: and [roscoe]: yeah, blocks [steph]: just [roscoe]: last [steph]: being a

[roscoe]: year on pace for thirty nine this year seventy four. He's sixteen more hits, up to sixty from forty four last year. [roscoe]: Like, come on, [steph]: Yeah, it's [roscoe]: Sure, he had eleven more goals last year at this point, But really like you've spread, you've spread that out. Marner, [roscoe]: scoring more. J. T is back on his game, Willis on fire this year Like they can spread this out. Well, he can make everybody's [roscoe]: lives hell. and I love it.

[steph]: It's easy to get comfortable with the idea that Matthews is the instant choice to score. and like every format, it's just [steph]: I'm happy that he's working on his two way play. Obviously, it looks like there's something wrong with these expectations, [steph]: but I'm sure Dart has a great explanation because he's talked to many peoples on the Inter Webs about this topic And [steph]: yeah, I would love to hear your expert opinion.

[darty]: It's so hard to sit there and not to say anything, because I always have these really funny things that just they sit in

[darty]: the back of my head. I'm like I got to say. I got say. I got to say, and this time let's hope it comes out properly, [darty]: But what I was going to say is it seems like Austin's lost his moo, But when we look at the, when we look at Stott's [darty]: like that, he's certainly got the power all right, and one of the [steph]: M. [darty]: things that you know we needed from Austin was to adapt and change this game up a little bit, and not just scoring right.

[darty]: Because we've learned Scoring goals isn't just going to win us games. It's great and we, we love when we outscore [darty]: our opponent, But as the other qualities, that from each of the players, but particularly from Austin Matthews, that are [darty]: going to win us in those really weird situations right like sometimes just can't out score your opponent. but you can

[darty]: outfinessthem. you can't out block them. you can out hustle them. And I think he said we're talking about Austin losing

[darty]: his modo. literalytht's. what people are saying. People are saying that Austin, Austin Matthews doesn't look good out [darty]: there, but I think that's just There's like almost like you know, trying to use big words here, but it feels like I guess [darty]: like a paratime shift in the way that the Leafs are, you know, operating right now, and especially with all the players

[darty]: moving and and you know everything you're seeing online and you know it's stuff that they probably are ealing with mentally [darty]: too right. It's not know. they're the athletes. They're the ones they're doing this. So they've had to change Has been [darty]: a lot of change has been a lot of ups and downs injuries. unexpected circumstances again. Like, what do we want to see

[darty]: from Matthews? Do we want See him score more goals? or do we want to see him get better, And if getting better means [darty]: to staying, you know, staying out of injury. Maybe block and show is probably not going t save you from injury. But but [darty]: we do like I'm not gonna. [steph]: Oh, [darty]: I'm not gonna ask him to score more goals. When I ask of him is to be the best he may that he can possibly be. Does

[darty]: he give a funk that I'm asking that? Probably not. That's what I am sitting here asking about Awes Matthews. [steph]: M, [darty]: If I can get that from Losin Matthews. That's that's all that. That's all I can really ask from him. I had more to [darty]: say somewhere, but I lost my trail of thought, so stop the.

[roscoe]: Look, I think the point comes down to you don't need six goals to win a game. We're not the Edmonton Oilers. You just [roscoe]: need one more than your opponent does right, So he doesn't if we're [steph]: Maybe [roscoe]: already, [steph]: on the pawraplay [roscoe]: look if we're already up. five, four to one or something, And he's scoring the one that makes it five to one. Like extra

[roscoe]: goals here and there are not what I'm looking for. If that's going to be. You know what? What sets him from fifty to [roscoe]: sixty Great, But really what's the difference maker this year is? Can you stop the other team from scoring those [roscoe]: important goals and can you score the important goals when we ne. They and I have not thought that's been lacking for

[roscoe]: Matthew's game this year. Like whenever they need a goal, these guys have come up clutched hen they need to. It's [roscoe]: not like I'm sitting there when it's a one goal game like, Oh my God, nobody can score every single time there's been [roscoe]: the odd time. Yeah, but that's the game like. I feel like running away with games is not really like. Yeah, it's fun,

[roscoe]: but it doesn't get you any more points than just winning by a goal does right. So [steph]: M, [roscoe]: as long as you [steph]: Hm. [roscoe]: can stop the other team from scoring more often like it's six to one to me. [darty]: I also want to point out to that Austin Matthews is very close friends with Justin Beaver, and anybody who's been, you [darty]: know all those cats out there that are paying attention to tiktok. You know you, you fellow rascals, rapscallions. paying

[darty]: attention to your tiktok. U. There is a lot going on with that old Haley Beaver. And And and that you know you know, [darty]: Nick said at best that you've got to keep an eye for Selina All right, So if there's anything if there's anything [darty]: that could be poss [roscoe]: Oh, [darty]: Bly [roscoe]: my [darty]: on Austin, [roscoe]: lord, [darty]: Matthew's mind right now. I know he's a young young lad. He's into the social medias, And why not? So I'm sure that's

[darty]: probably up there too, so I got to tell him, just like the Can government right now. Elate the tiktok buddy. All right, [darty]: You got you got to keep you know. Keep your eye office, leaner right, keep your eye on the fucking puck. All right. keep [darty]: your stick on the ice and keep your head up. there. you go. [steph]: It's funny you say that because coming into this year on his slow start, many people on Twitter was like, Um, he has

[steph]: a new girl friend this year, maybe spending way too much time with his girl friend rather than his buds. That speculation. [steph]: Of course, [roscoe]: You got to keep an out for Salina Is like the best quote you've dropped in the last month. [steph]: M, [roscoe]: What a throwback. Mike. the fanatic [steph]: M,

[roscoe]: asks what his dues do with Morgan Riley this summer. Seriously, Riley, for J T Miller, The decor looks so much better [roscoe]: with Riley out than ever have with him in the line up so disheartening because I absolutely love Mo as a person, and [roscoe]: Scott poet Scotia, following up very fair question. He's not been right since coming back. temporary. If not, then [roscoe]: what should the leaves do? Stuff you want to start it?

[steph]: Um, just thinking in a management perspective, even though I'm not them, I just think they are not even going to touch Morgan [steph]: Riley whatsoever until the time is going like, near the end of his contract. he's going to be forever leaf. In my opinion, [steph]: And what do we do? I don't know. We just have to prepare for play offs. Get em used to multiple D partners right, like

[steph]: we've seen the hall show during Van Hoover. Who was it, Brody, And then now he's being paired back with Lily. Like the [steph]: pears are all over the place. I don't see the leaves ever getting rid of Morgan Riley, but that's just my opinion. [roscoe]: Tardy. take it away [darty]: You know, I've been trying to say this all day, but when it came when it came to Morgan Morgan, Riley, and like the hat

[darty]: and Vital, which I have been a part of just because like man, I really wanted this guy to be the captain. he leaps a long [darty]: time ago, and I just feel like I feel like there is some care over attitude from the leaf that he grew up with, You know, [darty]: the ones where he was sitting in the locker room while Phil Castle was saying. What was the one he's talking? He's talking [darty]: to the Funks name. again. That That short? [roscoe]: For [darty]: No, [roscoe]: nough.

[darty]: not enough. The the coach was. it was it good one? Any good [steph]: Oh [darty]: one good one. And [steph]: Randy [darty]: see, [steph]: Carlyle, [darty]: Morgan, Riley [roscoe]: Oh, [darty]: was in [roscoe]: that [darty]: that dressing [roscoe]: whole thing, [darty]: room Because [roscoe]: eh, [darty]: even the back of the video and I feel like I feel like there's some carry over like, maybe depression or disappointment

[darty]: from. like you know, every year we fall short Right and he's He really has gotten away with murder. All right. Like s [darty]: best friends with Jake Gardener, I've seen these guys. You know, I creep them one time I happened, they have to show [darty]: up to my work and as like, look at these guys, they're like shaking hands of buddy Buddy. They seem like couple of cool

[darty]: lads. I'm like this Morgan Riley fellow. All right, he, he is an amazing defense man. And again we're talking about someone [darty]: who lost their way who lost their modo. It's Morgan Riley, and I know he has it still. Unless there's some injury. we don't [darty]: know about it. You know all these guys are hiding something, but Morgan Riley. I have given Justin Hall so much leeway that

[darty]: Though I've been chirping Riley, Eve, though been saying some bad things, I take it all back all right. I want nothing [darty]: but the best from Morgan, Riley, especially because he is healthy on paper. We just got to help him get his mo. go back [darty]: so everybody can finally like. Don't listen. Don't listen to old me of five hours ago when I tweeted some probably mean [darty]: ship about Morgan Riley.

[steph]: Oh, [darty]: Listen to me now [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: when you're listening to this episode and let's send out those positive vibes All right, because yes, I want to fucking. [darty]: you know. throw this guy through the screen sometimes because it just seems like, especially after tha One quick earlier [darty]: in the season is like, Oh, yeah, it's really easy to ignore the fans yelling. shoot. Yeah, well, then why don't you

[darty]: shoot the uckingpuck all right, Like if you're aware of it, then don't be a little brat. you know. Don't be that kid [darty]: like I'm not going to do it. Just fucking go out there. You know what to do. Hammer down, boys, So we're talking about [darty]: Morgan, Riley. We need to help this guy get his modo back. Not a hundrpercent happy with him, but I'm sending out

[darty]: all the positive vive because he's the only guy we got. He is our number one. He is our Victor Headman, And you know, [darty]: don't even think Victor Headman is doing that great. Take what we like. Let's not take what we have for granted. All [darty]: right, I feel bad for shading on them. We do take him for granted. I take him for granted, and I'm sorry, [roscoe]: I think [steph]: M. [roscoe]: we take [steph]: hm,

[roscoe]: all of our defenders for granted in Toronto, but I would say he can figure it out for the next what? twenty games. Because [roscoe]: come play off time, I'm sure he's going to snap out of it. He's He's got the most like you said. He's been here through [roscoe]: this whole thing. He's got the most to prove. I think being here through all of the debocals of past, he's carrying

[roscoe]: the most weight as a leaf. Like I don't know. I just I feel Now with everything in the right place. Granted all these [roscoe]: guys have to come back healthy, but I feel like this is a time where he's really going to pull it together. I don't [roscoe]: know. I hope so, just to echo what you guys [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: said like, I just, I hope for the best for him, but I don't think they're goin to move on [steph]: Me [roscoe]: from [steph]: too.

[roscoe]: him. But if it does get to the off season, and like you know, everything falls apart and he is the reason that you [roscoe]: know they lost game seven. Like just theoretically speaking, knocking on what, Um, in that crazy world it's very easy Contract [roscoe]: to move at seven and a half million for what he is, just because the market was set after he signed it at like nine [roscoe]: plus for what he is, [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: So [steph]: he's a steel.

[roscoe]: I think if the crazy crazy scenario came up where they did want to move on from him, even if it isn't a couple of years, [roscoe]: like you said, near the end of his contract, like they want to do him a Kyle Lavery favor, and just for his last year, [roscoe]: send him somewhere to win. I think it's an easy one to move, especially towards the end of [darty]: And [roscoe]: it.

[darty]: the sad part is someone's getting a [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: steel right because like it's [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: it's also [roscoe]: of course, [darty]: the leaf's curse like there's multiple, like cursed things that we do that we have, And one of the leaf curses [roscoe]: Hm. [darty]: is is that Are you know our players who are? So you know, they've got that dark cloud over them and nothing can go right.

[darty]: All of a sudden, they go somewhere else like say, and they just somehow our lights out and just put us to shame. right [darty]: so Nd that would be that would be the perfect example. I know he's a little bit O. K. I guess older. Now how long You [darty]: been in the league for an entire decade? If not more [roscoe]: Yeah. [darty]: so, but still [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: like some, one'd be getting a steel out of Morgan Riley Felix, you know I wouldn't want to lose him, and it would be

[darty]: a shame that you know you know how it's going to be if that's the case if it comes down to, you know you know. Oh, you [darty]: know, Morgan Riley equals Jake Gardener. two point. all of a sudden, you know he's gone. He can't help it, just how it [darty]: is in this fucking city. And and I am part of it. I am to blame too.

[roscoe]: I think the [steph]: M. [roscoe]: Curse of X leaves is coming to an end, though, because I mean not that I'm cheering for people to have lesser careers [roscoe]: by any means, but Capi and Yanson have not really panned out since moving on from the Leafs, and those were guys that [roscoe]: I thought we're going to be. You know, unfortunately, we couldn't keep them kind of guys. And [steph]: Yeah,

[roscoe]: really it's just been. They've bounced around and barely made rosters, so the only thing I can take from that is maybe [roscoe]: the curse to starting to lift. [darty]: Maybe it's [roscoe]: I [darty]: weird [roscoe]: don't [darty]: to, [roscoe]: know.

[darty]: because Capinin was like neelanderd, two point o, right, or I guess like one point six or something. You [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: know E was like well, like [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: he wasn't really Ne Lander, but he was our stop gap when Ne Lander was holding out, And it was you know, the talk of the [darty]: town at that time was Why the hell do we need New Lander if we have cappening, If you know what's happenin Casper Cappening,

[darty]: right, So it's very strange to think that this guy's gone to the pit of misery along with Johnson, who I totally forgot [darty]: about, So [roscoe]: Yeah, and he was just part of a trade on deadline. One of the big [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: ones. wasn't he for Meyer? [steph]: I think so. yeah, yeah, [roscoe]: So he's going out to San Hose. No, Andrea Johnson. Okay, next question from Olaf Zenegar at Zenegar Why haven't the Leafs

[roscoe]: been able to make clean passes over the last three games? I've been saying this. It's insane They can't make a pass all [roscoe]: of a sudden. They used to be so good at this and then it's just nothing is going in the right place. I get it. There's [roscoe]: a lot of new guys. They're adjusting to how like we talked about, People pass hard and that's hard to get sometimes.

[roscoe]: But like the professional hockey players they've had practice. I don't know why this isn't clicking. Its. You're a [roscoe]: little for us right in to watch. And like I said with Gustafson, and like him and Riley, have lost a couple of the [roscoe]: blue Lion. You've seen some passes in the slot to just go to nobody, like they're trying to do [steph]: M [roscoe]: too much,

[steph]: You. I think they just have to get up to the pace even with the one of the sorties from the Vancouver game. I believe [steph]: Bunting passed it from behind Dem co, out in front to Shin, who completely missed it. And then it went to Vancouver, [steph]: who easily cycled and got the goal. [roscoe]: And the other one was to Vars, throwing it out in front of the net to nobody. So

[steph]: Yeah, and like there's three or four Vancouver kanus right in the center like you're not getting that through. But [steph]: like you just gotta stop panicing and think about it for a second and I think [roscoe]: When your task [steph]: you know [roscoe]: is intercepted [steph]: it would. [roscoe]: by J T Miller, give your head a shake. [darty]: No, no, [steph]: It's this tough league. Re like it's anything can happen and people play their best against the leaves. Always like everyone's

[steph]: either from Ontario, they want to put on their best shoot showing. Where this game welcoming back. Like every game, there's [steph]: a list of events going on and there's always something to celebrate or another record record broken. But now I think [steph]: the guys need to just breathe. Finish this road trip. you know, Have a good couple practices and get back to Basics [steph]: like defense, and then the offense will come like, Don't try anything fancy, and then it will come.

[roscoe]: Agreed. Okay, So now we've got a couple of questions. I love these. These from Chris Harley at Early sports. Um, [steph]: Oh [roscoe]: so we got a few here. fun ones. first one. like I know, Arizona's attire, fire, and doesn't even have an arena, But we [roscoe]: have to be the most embarrassing franchise right, and for anybody who is familiar with like Dungeons and Dragons out

[roscoe]: there, it's like the leaves don't just miss. They roll a natural one when they lose. So for for reference, like what [roscoe]: that means is You have a twenty sided die and if you roll it and you get a one, say you were trying to like fire your [roscoe]: bow, instead of just missing the bow, snaps and hits you in the face and you do damage to yourself like it's the worst

[roscoe]: possible thing that could happen because you rolled the lowest possible thing like I feel like that's what it is [roscoe]: With the leaves. They can't just lose a game. It's they'll win. Everything is fine. They'll dominate a couple of games. [roscoe]: The win. that one was getting a little close, and the next game it's like people trip over their own sticks. It's like [roscoe]: Is happening. How are you? a completely different team than last week?

[darty]: I just love rolling that one on the D twenty, you know, [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: and then rolling it again. [roscoe]: Buddy? [steph]: Yah, [darty]: What is it? Though they call it like a roll [steph]: Uh, [darty]: for misery or something. [steph]: uh, [darty]: When you have to roll one that you roll one. you got to roll again. And then that happened to me so many times it's [darty]: like Yeah, I guess I'm getting fucking wrecked today. never playing that game again.

[roscoe]: Yeah, it's just the leaves know how to lose in an embarrassing fashion. I don't know. It's the frustrating thing is, and the [roscoe]: also silver lining is, it's two points. Either way you can win by. like I said, you can win by six goals. You can win [roscoe]: by one. It's still two points. You can lose by six [steph]: Yeah,

[roscoe]: and you can give up two short handed goals. It's not like you know you lose any points for it like it just looks worse [roscoe]: to everybody watching the game. [steph]: There's always something right or Justin Hall gets activated by putting two Tam Pons in his nose, like something [roscoe]: Oh my god, [steph]: king random, and it becomes a headline [darty]: Heard [steph]: so [darty]: of a champion right there. [roscoe]: You [steph]: I don't [roscoe]: know, [steph]: know.

[roscoe]: Yeah, but in a couple of weeks [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: this is just going to be a game that they lost and we're going to be more focused on the time line for Riley. Coming back [roscoe]: is O far as back up to speed. and which goal is n't like. These things aren't going to be a conversation in a couple [roscoe]: O weeks, especially heading into the playoffs. It's just really, really, really annoying coming down the stretch

[roscoe]: to lose a game like this again. I've [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: shouted out to the Tampa fans inside the rank because my God, they've been screaming. [darty]: You know it leaves. [roscoe]: I can't image What it's like [darty]: Leaf [roscoe]: over [darty]: fans [roscoe]: there. [darty]: just really really want to have their cake and eat it too. And I know people say you.

[roscoe]: Yeah, you got [darty]: You [roscoe]: to [darty]: know, [roscoe]: win [darty]: they [roscoe]: eighty [darty]: always [roscoe]: two [darty]: say [roscoe]: games. [darty]: you can't cake to, you know, the stupidest old fashioned archaic statement, But the truth is that the reason that we want

[darty]: to is because everybody else seems to you know, like for some reason Boston, nothing can go wrong for Boston. nothing [darty]: can go wrong for that rat Marsh, and you know we're all finding you know, team friendly deals, not fucking postawtveron [darty]: Un. You know, [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: rose, [steph]: Uh, [darty]: rose color [steph]: uh, [darty]: glasses and red flags. And what not? [steph]: Fox.

[roscoe]: Okay, so this next one is going to be just for the sake of me clipping this and putting it on our Instagram. I'm going [roscoe]: to call this start, one bench one and cut one cool. [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: Hardly know. [steph]: I [roscoe]: that's [steph]: like [roscoe]: not [steph]: these. [roscoe]: what you wrote, but I got to censor. I know we haven't censored a lot, but I want to post this So first is plain chips?

[roscoe]: Okay, so not no flavors, just plain chips. pringles, [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: lays and ruffles start one cut, one bench, one, [steph]: Um, I think the first choice to cut is obvious Here, [roscoe]: Which is. [steph]: Pringle [roscoe]: Oh, [darty]: Yeah, [steph]: funk that [darty]: I'm cutting pringles [roscoe]: okay, [darty]: too, just because I like you have to define lays. If it's is it just lays original or lays like any type of lays. [roscoe]: No dude, all all original.

[darty]: All [roscoe]: All [steph]: All [darty]: original. [roscoe]: these are original. [steph]: original [darty]: Okay, but [steph]: Yeh [darty]: okay, here's my issue again. I always make things complicated. The lays taste better like if you dip them like, I'm pretty sure [darty]: like people like, put like cream [roscoe]: No [darty]: or something on them, [roscoe]: plane plan [darty]: but [roscoe]: chip. [darty]: just the chip themselves. I'm cutting the lays. Sorry, I'm cutting he lays.

[roscoe]: Thank you, plain lays. If you've had like when I was the last time you bought a bag of plain lays chips. There are [roscoe]: so many You go to the grocery stores like there's kettle cooked ones. There's like even the store brand kettle, cook chips, [roscoe]: salt and vinegar, even the plain ones like they're better than lays. They're not [darty]: Miss [roscoe]: good. [darty]: Vicki's [roscoe]: They're [darty]: ruined [roscoe]: like, [steph]: Guys. [darty]: my life.

[roscoe]: S like tissue. It's tissue paper, Man, like it's sold tissue paper. There's nothing there [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: cut. lays. [steph]: but they hit the spot when you're mowing and you're downing a bag like myself. The plane lays are easy to eat and they don't [steph]: freaking stab you in the mouth [roscoe]: No, the [steph]: like [roscoe]: great either, [steph]: a ruffle. Okay and I can grab a whole handful because that's the only way I eat chips like a savage and pop corn, and

[steph]: I just shove that ship in my mouth and make a huge mess and it has to be lays from these three like pringle. Yeah, plain [steph]: lays, yea ruffles. Though, if there's a dip, it has to be a ruffle because there's support in that ship [roscoe]: We're [steph]: so [roscoe]: talking [steph]: it can hold [roscoe]: plain [steph]: the dip. [roscoe]: chip [darty]: No accoutrements [roscoe]: only [darty]: All right, But the, [roscoe]: Paramon, [darty]: The, The [roscoe]: Sonacuraman,

[darty]: lore, So the the Pringles, Though, the one thing I do like with the Pringles is they're basically Mc. Donald's French [darty]: rise. All right, They taste the exact same. Yeah, [steph]: No, [darty]: they taste the exact name of Mcdonald [steph]: No, [darty]: French prize. [steph]: they do [roscoe]: They do. [darty]: Yes, [steph]: not [roscoe]: They do [darty]: but I think also to the Mcdonald, French tries to have heat. You're never gonna have a hot pringles. That is the difference.

[roscoe]: Okay. [steph]: True. [roscoe]: Just okay. [steph]: Yes, [roscoe]: I'm starting starting pringle bunching ruffles and cutting lays. [steph]: How ship are cold Macdonald's fries here? Okay, so you want to ringle? That's equivalent to a cold Macdonald fry [roscoe]: If it was [steph]: over [roscoe]: flat [steph]: a [roscoe]: and [steph]: ruffle [roscoe]: crispy, [steph]: and lay.

[roscoe]: I would eat a cold crisp, Macdonald's fry any time like the little, like, if you find one of those crises in the ottom [roscoe]: of the bag, Not like, like hours old, but like if it was cold, I eat that I wouldn't touch the rest of the bag [roscoe]: Because crispy potato salt, which is basically what all of these are okay. This one is a little easier. More interesting, [roscoe]: pie, cake and ice cream. [roscoe]: Start, [steph]: That's [roscoe]: one [steph]: hard.

[roscoe]: bench, one and cut one. I will start. I'm going [steph]: Okay. [roscoe]: to say, [roscoe]: Oh my lord, Okay, so here's why I am somebody who finds myself craving cake, but I'm going to cut cake because it's the [roscoe]: idea of it is always better than the actual cake. like I very rarely have a cake that's really good Like you can buy [roscoe]: more chitty cakes than you can. good ones and good ones are expensive [steph]: Yeah,

[roscoe]: pies. You can spend six ninety nine on an apple pie at the grocery store. It's a pretty good pie like you can make [roscoe]: a pie at home, and even Like when it's not that great, it's still pretty good. You can buy a can of pie filling and [roscoe]: make a good pie. You throw some ice cream on that. It's perfect for that reason, I start ice cream because ice cream [roscoe]: makes every desert better, Meaning ice cream is the King. Pie gets benched and cake gets cut.

[steph]: Okay, see your reasoning there. This is hard for me because I do not have a sweet tooth. I'm a savory person. I'm really [steph]: like. I'm not picky. I just don't want it like I can eat apple pie, but I'm not really enjoying it because I'd rather

[steph]: have like I don't know Sor bay. I like fruity sore bays. I don't. I'm not like a huge ice cream lover either, So if it's [steph]: like Mixed fruit sor, I would love that, but [roscoe]: Fine [steph]: H. [roscoe]: ice cream [steph]: d. [roscoe]: is [steph]: Q [roscoe]: King. [steph]: cake. Yeah, d, Q cake over everything every birthday [roscoe]: That's [steph]: it has [roscoe]: mostly [steph]: to be [roscoe]: ice [steph]: D. [roscoe]: cream.

[steph]: Q. That's the only cake I'll go for. I can eat a cake, but like my, my favorite d. Q. If we're just talking about cake [roscoe]: That's [steph]: cake, [roscoe]: an ice cream cake, which proves my [steph]: There's [roscoe]: point that [steph]: too [roscoe]: ice cream [steph]: much [roscoe]: makes every regular dessert. Better Ice cream is King or a dairy. Please sponsor us [steph]: I like treatzapizza too, from D. Q. [roscoe]: Again. [steph]: M. [roscoe]: it has ice cream.

[steph]: Yes, so ice cream wins for me as well [roscoe]: Thank you. dirty. [steph]: caking pie. [roscoe]: Oh yeah, which one [steph]: I don't [roscoe]: between [steph]: know. [roscoe]: cake and pie? [steph]: I have to go cake, because you know I'm one to eat around the crust as well. I like the filling. I'm not a big crust person [roscoe]: Sorry, So which one are you cutting? [darty]: Uh, uh, [steph]: Pie. [roscoe]: Okay, [steph]: This [roscoe]: Sorry, [steph]: is hard.

[roscoe]: I could not make sense of your reasoning, which, whether it was good or bad, [steph]: Okay, I like them all Guy is. I just rather not [roscoe]: Um, [steph]: Trizapizza [roscoe]: Okay, Dart, [steph]: from [roscoe]: and [steph]: D. [roscoe]: then [steph]: Q. [roscoe]: and then we'll do favorite pies and we'll sign [darty]: All [roscoe]: off. [darty]: right, You ever like like? I feel like my thoughts are so loud sometimes that like like I'll be sitting there like you

[darty]: guys are talking and I'm just thinking about. Like pie, pizza, Was my wife calling and then I'm like thinking about like [darty]: Holy fuck, my mike was on. Was I talking? So I do apologize. I was like just randomly, like blurting out. I don't know. My [darty]: thoughts felt so loud because I got lost in the in the pie. I lost in the sauce. All right So but while you guys were [darty]: going on, I was really, [steph]: Do you hear the baby crying?

[darty]: I'm outside in my car, So I can't, but maybe my spiky senses are tangling, But yeah, I was like, really lost in my [darty]: thought about like pie and cake and then chores. And if I had to choose one like I have to, I have to start pie. I

[darty]: love pie. I love all kinds of pie, even apple pie, which I think can be very basic and boring. Sometimes I'll choose that, [darty]: Especially it's hot, like a hot apple pie from like Mc Donalds, or like you know, fresh out of the know, baked [roscoe]: Oh yeah, pies got to be [darty]: baked [roscoe]: hot. [darty]: by your, you know, your grandmama, or something like that, but O your grandpa. Now some grandpa was a damn good pie

[darty]: maker too. All right, He made made a really good pumpkin. but I like pumpkin pie. Some people don't, but you got t have [darty]: the whip. All right, you don't have the whip, So I'm starting pie. I am cutting. I'm cutting ise cream only because

[darty]: I only like one or two flavors and I usually find myself only. I usually find myself over eating it. I don't think I have [darty]: like I used to love, Like the idea of having three scoops and I usually like At the end of the day, I probably only need [darty]: The baby cup and then I'm good. Anything more than that just seems like I'm just like. I'm like [steph]: Me [darty]: drinking [steph]: too.

[darty]: milk. you know, like, like, like, like, Like choctelieyou. know like a lot of chocolate milk. You know. I mean lie. Yo know. [darty]: you just drink too much of flavored milk. Just you want throw up just any milk. So it's you know dairy challenge yourself, [darty]: So it's definitely T's. [steph]: Rascal's [darty]: It's [steph]: dying. [darty]: definitely start, Pye bench and cake, Because like cake is good, but I just don't know it sitting on the bench All right.

[darty]: And yeah, we're cutting. We're cutting the cutting. The ice cream Go. [roscoe]: I'm lacdosintolerant and I picked ice cream as the winter. What does that [steph]: Uh, [roscoe]: say? [roscoe]: Ice cream with [steph]: yeah, [roscoe]: King? Okay, So pies, I have to say, because it already just made me think about pies. My favorite. I said, all pies

[roscoe]: have to be hot. All pies don't have to be hot, but [steph]: No, [roscoe]: most pies are better when hot, but [darty]: Some like Get [roscoe]: lemon [darty]: hot [roscoe]: marang pie is fantastic and it's not hot. Same with coconut, cream pie and butter. Scotch pie is [steph]: What [roscoe]: really good and I like. I like all fruit pies, cherry pie, apple pie, strawberry roubarbpie, [darty]: Sweet Jerrybye. [roscoe]: like they're all Good. Blueberry pie.

[steph]: My favors. lemon marang, [roscoe]: Never met a piotidn't. like. [darty]: I don't know why, but I still say [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: Lemon [steph]: yeah, [darty]: marang is lemon Marin, just because I'm I think it's funny [steph]: M. [darty]: because because I just want to be purposely obtuse [roscoe]: Levin Rite is [steph]: I like [roscoe]: really [steph]: lime. [roscoe]: good and Key lime is [steph]: Yeah, [roscoe]: good too.

[steph]: I like fruity. I do. not okay. I'm not a picky person Guys. There's like enough things. I can count on the top like [steph]: one hand that I hate in this world, and one of them is coconut. So [roscoe]: What [steph]: coconut is out. I hate coconut with a passion. I can't even smell it. It smells like ship to me, So if you have coconut [steph]: body wash, you smell like ship. [roscoe]: Interesting? Okay? What about?

[darty]: Step [roscoe]: what [darty]: is [roscoe]: about [darty]: not in [roscoe]: cheese [darty]: love with [roscoe]: cake? [darty]: the Coco. [steph]: No, [roscoe]: Not [steph]: Well, [roscoe]: a love with the cook. What about what about cheese [steph]: yeah, [roscoe]: cake? [steph]: no coconut here, [roscoe]: Cheese cake [steph]: love [roscoe]: is a dividing [steph]: cheese [roscoe]: one. [steph]: cake, love cheese cake. Okay, so if it's a desert, I go for cheese cake, not cake cake.

[roscoe]: See those are good. I like the ones. I know. they're like Cisco. You know, every restaurant has them, but those big [roscoe]: cheese cake that has like the chunks of stuff in it. Those ones are [steph]: M. [roscoe]: really good at restaurants, [steph]: I like fruit. I like score. I like Carmel, chocolate stuff like that, but [roscoe]: So basically anything you can put on a cheese cake, [steph]: Yeah, pretty much

[roscoe]: I lean more towards fruit cheese cake than chocolate. I don't know. I find like the chocolate. I don't. no, I. it's [roscoe]: the texture or the bitterness of it just doesn't. I mean, chocolate and cheese obviously go well together, but it's [roscoe]: like the texture. I find a little little strange. I don't like peanut butter with it for the same reason. [steph]: I like dark chocolate and Carmel, sea salts with [roscoe]: Oh, [steph]: dark chocolate,

[roscoe]: Carl. see salts good, but I think it's the acid and the fruit goes well with it. you know, cut some of the fat of [roscoe]: the cheese instead of adding more to it with chocolate. I'm getting really molecular with this I apologize. just thinking [roscoe]: about cheese cake. [steph]: Dirty [roscoe]: Now? [steph]: favorite pie. [darty]: In the words of the great Marts show, we are examining the minutia of this this topic [roscoe]: Yeah, [darty]: and [steph]: Yeah,

[darty]: my favorite pie. definitely like a strawberry roubarbut. I don't know. I think that like, I [roscoe]: Wow, [darty]: think, I think foods, I think smells and scents like they can definitely bring you back to like a place of nostalgia. [darty]: You know, if I want to be like Down Draper here, you know, talking about nostalgia and I don't know what it is about.

[darty]: strawberry rout bar pie. I don't think I think it's the. For. It just reminds me of a place of this one time when I was [darty]: a young when I was a young boy, and I had every single grandmother and associated grandmother in my life in my house [darty]: like they were. They all went like strawberry picking, and I guess rubarpicking and then they wanted to make every.

[darty]: They wanted to use every single mason jar imaginable to make jams and jellies and pies, and for an entire like week, [darty]: I was eating pie and jam and jelly, [roscoe]: Oh, hell, enough, [darty]: and I was just In heaven And that is where my problem is with wet started. [steph]: A. [darty]: But but now [roscoe]: M [darty]: take back from a. I just want to be funny, but honestly though it's like you know, it's as a kid, you just can't help

[darty]: yourself and you cannot stop eating like our man. I don't recall a single day that week not having pie. It was so good [darty]: and like I don't have. I don't really eat that much sweets now anyways, like every now and then, I'll I'll you know, buy [darty]: a larocca cake from Grocery store and destroy one of those. whatever it happens to be like a chocolate truffle or [darty]: something. But, [steph]: Uh.

[darty]: but when it comes to pies like you know, I don't really buy store bought pies. I did choose pie over it, though, because [darty]: of those memories and because, if I go and say, if I go to a family gathering, if it happens to be Thanksgiving or [darty]: something, you know, the first thing on my plate, it's going to be that pumpkin pie All right and I know it's It's not

[darty]: for everybody like I, I love the straberyrubar pie. I love the cherry pie, but there's a special place in my heart [darty]: for that pumpkin pie. All right. So and the whip you got to have the [roscoe]: Frick.

[steph]: What it [roscoe]: Fun fact, I don't know if you guys have tried this brand before and I can't remember what is called the top of my head, [roscoe]: but there's a brand of jam that they have a wall mart that has like a bunch of different flavors and one of them is [roscoe]: strawberry rubarb jam and it's really good. [steph]: Nice. [roscoe]: Highly [steph]: Never tried it. [roscoe]: highly Rico [darty]: Please sponsor us? [roscoe]: right.

[steph]: I did my garlic con fe today because I do that [roscoe]: Oh, [steph]: a lot. so I spread that on toast with like avocado and other ships, So [roscoe]: Oh, damn, [steph]: like [roscoe]: look at you. [steph]: I, It's so easy and like it lasts, so you get garlic oil out of it as well, and like flavor things instantly. It's [steph]: great. So all this desert tug like I'm usually cooking savory ship like I've haven't baked and I can't even remember,

[steph]: probably since I was a kid, But cook. I cook every day like and I cook from scratch too like. I hate store bought ship [steph]: and frozen ship. So Well I try with the spending means [darty]: Yeah, [roscoe]: Oh [steph]: Girls are expensive man. Oh my god, [darty]: I had to cook three weeks [steph]: right, [darty]: in a row, because I'm not a good chef. I'm my Heffer Will kill people. Gordon Ramsey would never stay at my house,

[darty]: but I had to cook three weeks in a row. I know there's people listening like Wow, dirty Uramouron, people cook every [darty]: day. But but again I said, I prefaced by saying like I am not the main chef in my house because people will die, but

[darty]: I cook three weeks in a row because I screwed up and did not cancel my Hello fresh orders for Three weeks. I don't [darty]: normally use Hello Fresh, but I, I got it because someone gave me free Hello fresh and was like Oh, That sounds like a [darty]: cool idea. I'll start cooking because it seems simple and I'm not trying to plug Hello fresh here. They're not paying

[darty]: us and this definitely not a good story for them, Eve, Though the food was great, but but yeah, I kept get. I kept [roscoe]: I.

[darty]: getting those subscriptions like God, damn it. I thought I skipped it. I thought I skipped my subscription this week and [darty]: they kept sending it to me And so because I initially picked five meals, they sent me five meals every week, and that's [darty]: you know, you have to make a meal Every single day, so I'm like, God damn it, if I don't make it, it's going to go bad.

[darty]: So every day, like for three weeks, was an experiment and like not murdering people, and you know, sending people to [darty]: hospital, and I got to say My, My odds were like two out of three, you know, Like two thirds of the meal is turned [darty]: out pretty good. One third of them probably would. never, you know, would would get [steph]: Nice

[darty]: me. You know Gordon would come to my restaurant and be like you, bloody idiot. You are an idiot sandwich [steph]: Is going to [darty]: guarantee. [steph]: say that [darty]: So I said, two of three ain't bad for darting and cooking. And so if there's my plug for Hello Fresh is, just make sure [darty]: that you remember to skip or cancel your subscription because you will be stuck with a lot of food. [steph]: I'll [roscoe]: I. [steph]: send you all my flyers for them.

[roscoe]: On that. I just canceled a couple of subscriptions today that have just been kind of sitting around and it felt good. [roscoe]: so reminder friendly. Remind you to do that if you haven't in a while. [darty]: Credit card will thank [steph]: Yeah, [darty]: you. [roscoe]: Heck, yeah, okay, [steph]: Well, [roscoe]: let's get out of here.

[steph]: Leaves play tomorrow night, New Jersey Devils. guys. We won one, lost one so far, so hopefully we can beat the this [steph]: beast of a team who has new players and team O, Myer and company, and we'll be back to talk about it. [roscoe]: Just got to beat the devil out [darty]: I'm [roscoe]: of [darty]: just [roscoe]: it. [darty]: on a ell you right now, sorry, [steph]: Yeah,

[darty]: fellows, and step and all of you beautiful people out there. but we did. We only lost one game. That first game did [darty]: not count. All right, We definitely, [steph]: Yeah. [darty]: we definitely sucked them so hard with the rest right, which has never happened. So let's actually win a game for real. [darty]: Let's show them that we don't need the rafts and let's kick some freak in as, because like the boys deserve it out there [darty]: right, [roscoe]: Go. let's go, baby.

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