The White Stripes

[roscoe]: welcome back it is reversed retro night welcome to leaves late night i'm your host [roscoe]: rosco joined by dart broder surprised guest here benner and southey well it's never too [roscoe]: late for the leaves presented by inside the rink and the reason i say surprised [roscoe]: guests here in dartybrodur we're not on video tonight [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: but he's rocking what i can only call la elliot freedman car cast as i'm [roscoe]: looking at him in a gym right

[Darty Brodeur]: oh [roscoe]: now and [Darty Brodeur]: h [roscoe]: you can hear the [Darty Brodeur]: h [roscoe]: music pumping in the background and i see this guy just going on a machine [roscoe]: you want right [Darty Brodeur]: this [roscoe]: now [Darty Brodeur]: is a sibexelyptical right it was the quietest most modern and i think it's at [Darty Brodeur]: least a [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: fifteen hundred dollar machine all right so i figured [roscoe]: uh

[Darty Brodeur]: if i was going to do multi task i'd pick [roscoe]: h [Darty Brodeur]: something that wouldn't have too much interference on our microphone and still get maximum caloryburnage [roscoe]: i [biehner_]: for [roscoe]: love [biehner_]: for [roscoe]: the dedication [biehner_]: for everyone that [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: can't see it just think of danny hetley or jason speza from like the five [biehner_]: o six senators post game

[roscoe]: this guy's just like it's headphones in just going to town at i love it [roscoe]: man i love that i love that you're here from there it's great [Darty Brodeur]: i've had this t shirt since great eleven all right so [roscoe]: yes [Darty Brodeur]: you know it's it's old school it's old school pump tonight [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: your nipples are telling us that [roscoe]: uh uh [Darty Brodeur]: m [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: banner [roscoe]: buddy [biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: okay [biehner_]: you're a dad now you're not supposed to be working out cut that ship out [roscoe]: so because it's reverse retro night i want to start with questions sound good we're [roscoe]: gonna start at the end reverse style so with the very first question here from [roscoe]: t m l fan and van has going marty or the leaps good southey you [roscoe]: can start this one how's it going leaves good [roscoe]: yeah and i mean i know there's a bit of a tongue in cheek to

[roscoe]: the question because there's it's not been the most supported leafs regular season campaign so [roscoe]: far as far as the the fans and media goes it's been a lot of [roscoe]: it's been a roller coaster eighteen games so as simple as a four word question [roscoe]: are the leaves good can be it's there's some depth to it i think he [roscoe]: knows that next one from aran at aronlea nineteen seventy eight thanks arn this is

[roscoe]: also from vi blue and white um well this is so okay it's two partner [roscoe]: feel blue and white will curfoot ever score again and aron following up and will [roscoe]: they realize cur foot is not the player they need in the top six so [roscoe]: frustrating so i mean okay we saw him make the pass to nowhere land to [roscoe]: not open j t the other night and now we see him blow his i [roscoe]: don't know twelfth it feels like break away of this son already it's not that

[roscoe]: many but it feels like it nor [biehner_]: so he's like mice [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: to point o or like [roscoe]: h [biehner_]: michel grabner [roscoe]: no kidding [biehner_]: eighty five point o like [roscoe]: always one of these a [biehner_]: every single season the leafs ways have this kind of player and i wish i [biehner_]: would have wrote it down someone on twitter was talking about maybe the [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: leaf's picking up capinit because oh you know you could use his offense in the [biehner_]: bottom six he did this exact same thing when he was on the leaves he [biehner_]: had chance [roscoe]: why are [biehner_]: after [roscoe]: leaf [biehner_]: chance [roscoe]: fans so [biehner_]: and he [roscoe]: obsessed [biehner_]: could never [roscoe]: with bringing [biehner_]: bury [roscoe]: back guys why why is it always let's bring back luke she let's bring back

[roscoe]: jack campbell let's bring back his barry [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: capitan sorry [Darty Brodeur]: and [roscoe]: go [Darty Brodeur]: wasn't [roscoe]: on people [Darty Brodeur]: appening [roscoe]: are just obsessed [Darty Brodeur]: only good when nelander was gone was that not like the scoop there [biehner_]: capitan [roscoe]: there can be [biehner_]: was [roscoe]: only one [biehner_]: right like he [roscoe]: yah [biehner_]: never really lived up to his potential [roscoe]: yah

[biehner_]: and he's still not hence why he's being scratched a whole bunch i don't know [biehner_]: like like my swiss army knife comment from a couple episodes ago [roscoe]: it was great [biehner_]: i don't i'm not too sure if [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: as much as i love the guy and i do see his use i don't [biehner_]: know do you bentham do you give him a new [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: shooting coach do give a matthew stick for a game like

[roscoe]: yeah that's why i mean like it looks like it always looks like good things [roscoe]: it's just the finish is never there and i know he's not supposed to be [roscoe]: a goal score but like i mean he doesn't exactly have the assist either this [roscoe]: is his longest goal dry it's not a thirteen games or something he hasn't scored [roscoe]: in or fourteen this is nuts [roscoe]: yeah in [Darty Brodeur]: but besides what he's giving [roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: you guys on the ah who fantasy i know he's probably screwing a bunch f [Darty Brodeur]: people over if you have carfootbut besides that is he not do you think he's [Darty Brodeur]: not giving something on the bench like in the locker room like even on i [Darty Brodeur]: used like i feel like this guy this guy's got to be pretty solid but [Darty Brodeur]: he doesn't doesn't see if there's too much wrong with him besides the fact he's

[Darty Brodeur]: not putting too many points up [roscoe]: yeah and i mean it shows by the fact that keith gives him all these [roscoe]: opportunities whether it's you know power play time on p p two or penalty kill [roscoe]: or he's now floating between either the first second or third line they at least [roscoe]: trust him to play everywhere it's just it's back to be interesting you know you [roscoe]: can be pretty good at a lot of things but is that really what we

[roscoe]: need out of that slope right now or do we need somebody like nick robertson [roscoe]: to not be in the press box [roscoe]: next question this is from mike d thanks mike mike d underscore three nine two [roscoe]: should the leaves make these reverse retros their main jersey are going to let banner [roscoe]: take this one because he's the jersey guy on no so that you can [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: jump in here too [biehner_]: so i will i will admit it [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: when they came out i think i was the first [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: one on this plot to say i did not like them they are starting to [biehner_]: grow on me just a little bit i thought they were i don't know if [biehner_]: it's the photographer they have because i thought the same thing last reverse retro when [biehner_]: the photographer when they posted pictures of it i thought man that's a god awful [biehner_]: jersey and that jersey grew on me too [roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: i don't know if it's maybe because this is one of the most complete games [biehner_]: they've played all year so i just kind of it doesn't hurt [roscoe]: it's [biehner_]: or [roscoe]: easy to associate the jersey with how they play [biehner_]: or [roscoe]: my [biehner_]: or if anybody saw my tweet matt murray given off the grant [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: for early nineties [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: vibes something about the white [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: shoulders just every time he'd go down the butterfly to make i saved like jesus [biehner_]: christ i'm watching fare here [roscoe]: yeah i like the crest on it honestly better than [Darty Brodeur]: oh [roscoe]: the last reverse retro but so what do you think [roscoe]: yeah oh [roscoe]: yeah [roscoe]: and dirty i'll let you finish this one that i'm gonna throw the next question [Darty Brodeur]: i [roscoe]: to you [Darty Brodeur]: think [roscoe]: too

[Darty Brodeur]: that is what was missing from [roscoe]: that a good [Darty Brodeur]: our takes when that came out because i noticed that i felt like you guys [Darty Brodeur]: didn't [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: was it wasn't as prominent in the photography [roscoe]: ah [Darty Brodeur]: was that stripe on the top and i love it as soon as i saw [Darty Brodeur]: it i was like you guys i don't know what you guys are [roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: talking about go back to the episode i'm telling you now i was all [roscoe]: yes [Darty Brodeur]: though this jersey [roscoe]: uh [Darty Brodeur]: and because of that white stripe in fact i wish it was more shoulder patty [Darty Brodeur]: like folk i wish they did a little bit [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: more with it but still i think it really pops and that was missing from [Darty Brodeur]: the initial photography and now they set on the ice fucking beauty

[roscoe]: white stripes baby um so i'm going to give this next question back to you [roscoe]: dirty so before i go to mike's question what do you think is a good [roscoe]: chant for matt murray [Darty Brodeur]: that's a tough one because like i was really going for [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: the know the [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: like with samsonov i really like [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: the now classic like ricola like so nvright [roscoe]: that's a good one

[Darty Brodeur]: but with mary it's like i don't know maybe shouting [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: out like like murdog or something like [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: murdo [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: don't know this [roscoe]: so so mike was here's mike's question how good was matt murray again tonight seriously [roscoe]: needed fans of scotia bank to cheer me for him every day of the guy [roscoe]: earned it he has he was positionally sound calm and composed all night long give

[roscoe]: it to this guy mat murray i mean yes buffalo savers aren't a seven game [roscoe]: losing streak but here's a lot of guys that can score on this team and [roscoe]: i know i say that a lot but did well the net front challenge is [roscoe]: dirty [Darty Brodeur]: like what's his nickname to actually murdogbease honestly i feel like his nickname should be [Darty Brodeur]: bones because like he's so fucking skinny like [roscoe]: bones

[Darty Brodeur]: like for for a big tall like tandy not really that big once you get [Darty Brodeur]: all the equipment off of them i feel like [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: a lot of tents are like that too like it's the it's the football pads [Darty Brodeur]: they're wearing that make them look big but [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: yeah murray especially when he was a little under the weather last season that guy's [Darty Brodeur]: guys skeleton all [roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: right like it's incredible how much area he covers [roscoe]: oh yeah so southey this question is from scott on discord with murray playing well [roscoe]: and what we've seen of sammy are you confident enough with the tend situation for [roscoe]: the rest of the season [roscoe]: ye [roscoe]: ah oh man oh [roscoe]: okay yeah oh yeah yeah i mean it all comes down to injuries right but [roscoe]: at the same time last year jack cambell and peter marassig were not healthy either

[roscoe]: and i think if you're going a give me two goals that are shaky on [roscoe]: health i would take murray and samson of over mraszikand campbell any day dar go [roscoe]: ahead [Darty Brodeur]: ber [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: you have something there look you're gonna say something i don't want to jump ahead [roscoe]: sorry i can't see [biehner_]: no [roscoe]: him right now [biehner_]: you can't see me [roscoe]: no i can't oh sorry i can't see satybener if you want to jump in

[biehner_]: yeah sorry i was just going to say like marty and i talked about it [biehner_]: before the season we had a an episode of his podcast there that we broke [biehner_]: down the leif's goal tender depth in the system and we we both felt you [biehner_]: know cautiously optimistic and fairly confident [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: that this was going to be a pretty good pretty good tan coming into the [biehner_]: season [Darty Brodeur]: and do you guys think do you gys think that

[roscoe]: darton [Darty Brodeur]: the positivity that we're seeing when we look at this tantum as opposed to the [Darty Brodeur]: previous tantum i would like to believe that because there's less of a dark cloud [Darty Brodeur]: over these guys like murray and sam son of were not hearing much about you [Darty Brodeur]: know the mental health the outside world [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: getting to the inside world of them right i feel like with these guys yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: they got their injury problems but it's not like they're [roscoe]: m [Darty Brodeur]: like morai who literally his [roscoe]: yes [Darty Brodeur]: groin is made of glass you know like i feel like with these guys gordstelick [Darty Brodeur]: said it best last night just fucking run him all right with matt murray like [Darty Brodeur]: let's [roscoe]: my [Darty Brodeur]: see let's let's see what he got and if he breaks then fuck [roscoe]: my

[Darty Brodeur]: we got to get new tend but we [roscoe]: yes [Darty Brodeur]: got to see see it now before later [roscoe]: yeah i think the difference last year was the leaves were scoring a ton everybody [roscoe]: was on the ball this year we're seeing a bit of you know some people [roscoe]: are off to slow start some people are on some nights and we'll get to [roscoe]: that with another question here also shout out to lucas who basically asked the same

[roscoe]: question i'm gonna lump it in but the difference last year was they were scoring [roscoe]: a ton and also letting in a ton of goals but still managing to win [roscoe]: which sounds like the edmonton oilers this year surprise surprise weird coincidence there i don't [roscoe]: know but now you're seeing that gold tending hasn't really and why they're losing it's [roscoe]: been other problems so i think that's distracted the story line away from you know

[roscoe]: what's wrong with with matt murray like way it was last year with jack campbell [roscoe]: where it was always a question of his emotion s in the locker room and [roscoe]: you know because he was the one that wasn't on when everybody else was so [roscoe]: uh next one kally cartel this will go to you beiner are we okay with [roscoe]: matthew's lack of scoring because we're winning and still getting points

[biehner_]: absolutely it's as much as he's our our goal score and we've been you know [biehner_]: all leaf fans have been pimping his tires all summer saying he's the best goal [biehner_]: score in the league not only is he still [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: getting chances he's setting up his teammates for chances and his defensive game is still [biehner_]: there if he was just kind of coasting you know going through emotions shift after

[biehner_]: shift i'd be worried like is there a lingering injury is he [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: is something going on behind the scenes that's making him not happy there um but [biehner_]: i don't see any of that like he's going he's battling [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: in every shift he's out there he's laying a hit or he's digging a puck [biehner_]: out and stealing it from someone to go ther way for a chance is just

[biehner_]: you score sixty and you're going to be covered how many times has someone scored [biehner_]: sixty goals in the past ten years [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: twice if i remember correctly i've taught my head him and stammer [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: like [roscoe]: and [biehner_]: it you're going [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: to be covered [roscoe]: yeah and honestly if the only problem is shooting percentage then he's fine [biehner_]: yep

[roscoe]: to kind of sum that up it's like if the only problem is he's just [roscoe]: not getting them in the back of the net yet that will correct itself like [roscoe]: it's obviously below what it should be that will average out so did you at [roscoe]: a jump in there [roscoe]: no and i mean he's still finding his way under the score sheet he's been [roscoe]: getting assist almost every night that he's not scoring so it's not like he's not

[roscoe]: getting the points right that wraps up our questions thanks everybody for sending those in [roscoe]: on discord and twitter if you're not already on our discord is just shy of [roscoe]: a hundred people were at ninety one we just passed ninety today that's so fun [roscoe]: thanks everyone for joining uh okay onto the game first period this was probably the [roscoe]: leaf's best first period of the season so far would anyone want to argue me

[roscoe]: on that i don't think it necessarily started like it's not like they were playing [roscoe]: hot at the gate but as far as yeah oh cool um we had a [roscoe]: couple interesting goals i mean we'll talk about the first one jontveras ben you want [roscoe]: to take this i'm just pulling something else up here [biehner_]: we're talking about the tip [roscoe]: yeah from marner oh yeah it was the power play goal sorry i'm just pulling

[roscoe]: up a couple of things here from the game let's be shift [biehner_]: no no [roscoe]: over if it sounds like i'm off i was cleaning this room today and i [roscoe]: left the window open and i forgot to close it and it is freezing cold [biehner_]: right [roscoe]: in here so i'm like [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: shaking as i'm talking [biehner_]: it's just [roscoe]: ah [biehner_]: like you're at the rank come on man you should be in prime form [roscoe]: oh i know fact i didn't dress for this

[Darty Brodeur]: may we did do a music music break at [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: some [biehner_]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: point just [biehner_]: so [Darty Brodeur]: to let this guy have a not freeze you know turn to ice cole mill [Darty Brodeur]: pod [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: i think [roscoe]: i know [biehner_]: i think the wrong persons on the work out machine right there [roscoe]: uh uh [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: so basically just like [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: what was it ten twelve seconds [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: into the power play um mole gets the puck at the point slides it over [biehner_]: to marner who's up on the half wall who just released howitzer and j t [biehner_]: just gets a tip of it out front to beat up l best name in [biehner_]: hockey ukapekalukann [roscoe]: i don't even [biehner_]: the leaf [roscoe]: try to tweet spell it i just said p [biehner_]: oh yeah the leaves go up one now

[roscoe]: yeah i can never remember how many keys are in uco and pea is it [roscoe]: two in both [biehner_]: i believe so [roscoe]: yeah well save me a bit [biehner_]: yep [roscoe]: yeah he's been getting the looks like we said he's just like you know to [roscoe]: ben's point everybody's expecting that shot so they got to find more creative voices scoring [roscoe]: the power play and that was the problem though the first like twelve games was

[roscoe]: you know let's get it to matthews oh there's three guys watching him now what [roscoe]: now they have a now what what's it [biehner_]: ah [roscoe]: exactly i [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: think they all just want to see him get to sixty again [biehner_]: oh yeah who doesn't he's he's shooting his lowest shooting percentage of his career he's [biehner_]: at ten percent right now and this previous lows was in his rookie season at [biehner_]: fourteen point three [roscoe]: m

[biehner_]: so it's [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: it's going to come back around he normally hovers around the fifteen even up to [biehner_]: he said a couple of seasons above eighteen per cent [roscoe]: oh and the other the other good pass he had was where he fed bunting [roscoe]: for that break away that he almost scored on so i mean [biehner_]: yep [roscoe]: like he's he's really just finding new ways to be effective on the ice and

[roscoe]: i mean using the body which will get to when he took that penalty that [roscoe]: was absolutely bullshit [Darty Brodeur]: and look if he saves some of it for the first round we finally get [Darty Brodeur]: past her yo're gonna complain if he's only got forty goals like come on [roscoe]: no not at all um so second one kelly yarn croke with what i could [roscoe]: only call i forget who on twitter said this was basically a jason's betsogoal just

[roscoe]: right in front bullet to the open side of the net there finally kalyoncrok with [roscoe]: his fourth of the season i'm glad this guy this was less than five minutes [roscoe]: after the power play goal so leaves [Darty Brodeur]: that [roscoe]: were sti [Darty Brodeur]: goal [roscoe]: buzzing [Darty Brodeur]: legal or [roscoe]: there [biehner_]: m [Darty Brodeur]: something that [roscoe]: i'm [Darty Brodeur]: you put [roscoe]: just [Darty Brodeur]: the sirens on there johnny

[biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: uh h was that that wasn't me whose was that that's you it's gonna say [roscoe]: you're i'm not the one downtown yeah so not much to say on the one [roscoe]: other than san dene finally showing his offensive side of his game and why you [roscoe]: know there is a [biehner_]: yah [roscoe]: ceiling that people are talking about there that he's yet to reach i mean i [roscoe]: think he was good on this one feeding it over to eval and then angvall

[roscoe]: was the best play of this but the swedish line man [biehner_]: the best play of this being the not getting called for too many men [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: ah [roscoe]: i mean like look was it really [biehner_]: oh oh [roscoe]: or was it one that they just should have called by the book like did [roscoe]: it really [biehner_]: so [roscoe]: affect the play [biehner_]: it didn't affect the play but with the [roscoe]: ye

[biehner_]: way that this penalty specifically gets [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: called against the leaves you would think it was just an automatic whistle blown like [biehner_]: i'm surprised the guys didn't just stop [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: skating and one of them go to the box like [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: if the puck wasn't there then yeah okay it's not a penalty if angvallis coming [biehner_]: out and trying to get into the play even though zare [roscoe]: eh

[biehner_]: isn't off the ice because he's not in the play but the fact that he [biehner_]: gets the pluck right away even though [roscoe]: it's [biehner_]: he's [roscoe]: questionable [biehner_]: even those are at the bench he within that zone you know rats normally gave [biehner_]: a little bit of his own right right at the bench there the fact that [biehner_]: he touched the puck technically by the book that should have been a call against [biehner_]: the leaves [Darty Brodeur]: and was

[roscoe]: especially [Darty Brodeur]: that not the [roscoe]: against [Darty Brodeur]: bane of [roscoe]: the [Darty Brodeur]: our [roscoe]: leaves [biehner_]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: existence last year it seemed like [biehner_]: ah [Darty Brodeur]: every game it was too much man right like what's our counter at this year [Darty Brodeur]: is that our first one of the year [roscoe]: a ah [biehner_]: it's basically been since babcock was fired i don't know if babcock had some some

[biehner_]: you know interesting photos of some of the rafts and his black was black mailing [biehner_]: limit not sharing it [roscoe]: ah [biehner_]: something [roscoe]: little [biehner_]: like [roscoe]: handshake deal going on [biehner_]: right yeah [roscoe]: yeah yet i think i've only seen one maybe two called this year and at [roscoe]: this point it seems like they were at four or five so it was like [roscoe]: thirteen in a span of two months they had last year but the reason kind

[roscoe]: of rushing through these is because i really want to talk about the mark dane [roscoe]: goal here for [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: more than a few reasons right some people have never seen a goal scored this [roscoe]: way we actually got to talk about one last year if i'm not mistaken where [roscoe]: this happened didn't [biehner_]: fun fact [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: the one we talked about last year when this happened i have that goal puck

[biehner_]: in my display cabinet in my basement [roscoe]: wait what [biehner_]: i ended up getting that puck [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: the tovaro's goal [roscoe]: okay so [biehner_]: if it's the one i'm thinking [roscoe]: right [biehner_]: of [roscoe]: was to varas yeah [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: yeah it's coming back to me i was like i've definitely seen this before and [roscoe]: i felt like it was the first time i'd seen it and now it's twice

[roscoe]: so if you knock your own net off well the play is still going and [roscoe]: there's an imminent scoring through spot crosses the line it's a goal and they knew [roscoe]: that everyone pointed to it on the ice said that's a goal so mitch marner [roscoe]: comes in and does what some people have called questionable but trying to make believes [roscoe]: twitter proceeded to pull up two old clips of marner doing this exact same thing

[roscoe]: before where he comes out of the breakaway pulls somebody to the side who's behind [roscoe]: him and then gives it back to the person following him who then has a [roscoe]: wide open net so kind of tricking the defender and the goal [biehner_]: it [roscoe]: you [biehner_]: was [roscoe]: did [biehner_]: actually [roscoe]: it in junior [biehner_]: a really [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: sorry it was actually a really clever play to do at that point because especially

[biehner_]: shorthanded you know the sabers players aren't going to be expecting that there's going to [biehner_]: be a second player coming in behind [roscoe]: of course [biehner_]: so they're just they're just going to stop it and if i remember correctly i [biehner_]: think there was the wasn't the curve foot break away just before that [roscoe]: i think so [biehner_]: was [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: it [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: and [roscoe]: it was [biehner_]: like [roscoe]: the bunting one

[biehner_]: bunting okay so up l is really good down low so [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: once marner had realized ship i'm in that low why not drop it back because [biehner_]: he knows someone like go is going to be there whether or not go was [biehner_]: yelling for it or not who knows but and then [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: it's a very very rare rule you almost never see it [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: but we have seen it a [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: handful of times over the past couple of years the leafs themselves i think this [biehner_]: is only the second or [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: third time and only the second time it's gone for us that i can remember [biehner_]: ever um but yeah as long as it still crosses the plane that would have [biehner_]: technically been a goal so in vision virtual [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: goal post as long as it crosses there within basically [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: all within same play is how they normally try to word it so imminent score [biehner_]: and chance same play however you want to say it even if the nets off [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: in the corner it's a goal [roscoe]: oh but you can't put your foot up against an imaginary goal post says kevin [roscoe]: b x which [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: i say don't knock your own net off then [biehner_]: x also said that it was six minutes later so i don't know if i

[biehner_]: don't know if he's taken too many [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: pucks to the head or [roscoe]: oh [roscoe]: i don't [biehner_]: no [roscoe]: even think [biehner_]: one [roscoe]: you need [biehner_]: did [roscoe]: to have the pack off now [biehner_]: no you don't as long as long as ye as long as it was the [biehner_]: pot like the defending [roscoe]: ah [biehner_]: team that knocked it off clearly without any any input from the attacking team [roscoe]: a

[biehner_]: and as long as it's within the same course of play like you couldn't pass [biehner_]: it back to the blue line or anything like that right um and then furthermore [biehner_]: to be a if you slow the video down and you watch it [roscoe]: uh [biehner_]: up l's pad comes from inside the crease out if the post was there it [biehner_]: would have prevented him from making this ape [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: it literally [roscoe]: that's [biehner_]: would [roscoe]: hilarious

[Darty Brodeur]: and be is such a neck homer [biehner_]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: like that guy like sometimes he said breath of fresh air [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: but most times he's sour milk man like i can't like him sometimes what is [Darty Brodeur]: it [roscoe]: okay [Darty Brodeur]: a lot of a lot of these guys like like like bucking crag simpson too [Darty Brodeur]: and i [biehner_]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: can't remember the other guy's name but i'm i'm losing [roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: it right now probably o no xperosbut some of these guys these former players like [Darty Brodeur]: it's just they really start to get on my nerves [biehner_]: yah [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: ah [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: rudy [roscoe]: kelly [biehner_]: glen healey kiprios [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: there's two [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: former [roscoe]: kipper [biehner_]: there's two former players that i [roscoe]: ah

[biehner_]: have any respect for that do this and i sound like an asshole when i [biehner_]: say that it's ray ferraro and is mike johnson those guys are absolutely incredible [roscoe]: yep [biehner_]: and they'll [roscoe]: they [biehner_]: come right [roscoe]: are [biehner_]: out and say it if they [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: have a home or take or something like that just b x has been so [biehner_]: hitting miss lately i think he's trying too hard to be the new grapes [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: um m i really loved hearing butter hill kind of put her foot down and [biehner_]: kind of give it to him like no this is the right call like this [biehner_]: is the way [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: it should be it was it [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: was really nice [roscoe]: i was not a i was not a fan of her take on edler not [roscoe]: being what was it she basically said that like the one on high man was [roscoe]: on purpose but this one like could have been by accident so he shouldn't be

[roscoe]: suspended and that's why i'm like no no no no he stood up he knew [roscoe]: exactly what i was doing and it's on connor mc david like i said the [roscoe]: last episode the person who brings the majority of the income to this game you [roscoe]: don't let this happen to him and go unchecked come on [roscoe]: may [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: this is legitimately the third time he's done this like it's it's a history it's [biehner_]: a pattern [roscoe]: history needing that's it

[Darty Brodeur]: and riddle me this fella [roscoe]: already go [Darty Brodeur]: is [roscoe]: ahead [biehner_]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: crag anderson still attending for the sabers [roscoe]: he was on the bench [Darty Brodeur]: was [roscoe]: and [Darty Brodeur]: that [roscoe]: a [Darty Brodeur]: not the [roscoe]: nice [Darty Brodeur]: stupidest [roscoe]: sabers baseball [Darty Brodeur]: freaking [roscoe]: cap [Darty Brodeur]: decision for that team like do they not under and how to beat the leafs

[Darty Brodeur]: these fucking gomes like put that guy has had the least number like almost every [biehner_]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: single game like they just wanted [biehner_]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: to give us the game or something [roscoe]: well it's fifty fifty do you put crag anderson in or do you put the [roscoe]: guy in firs first game of the season either way if you're playing leaves jug [roscoe]: those could both go in your favor

[biehner_]: interestingly enough crag anderson single handedly [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: makes the sabers not the youngest team in the league [roscoe]: yeah only behind new jersey [biehner_]: yep [roscoe]: he must pull their average age up by like a solid few years [biehner_]: oh he's got because he's like forty two [roscoe]: that's insane oh but honestly back to the goal i can't believe go was able [roscoe]: to put this one in because like somebody said first star goes to the overhead

[roscoe]: cam like it was [biehner_]: the [roscoe]: actually [biehner_]: funnier [roscoe]: one [biehner_]: part [roscoe]: a twitter [biehner_]: was he didn't even really shoot it he just kind of hit it as he [biehner_]: tried with swinging to wak at it [roscoe]: yep [biehner_]: if you re watch it it's not really a shot [roscoe]: but honestly it found its way in and crossed the line and they knew it [roscoe]: immediately they all sort of point to it they're like that's in that's a goal

[roscoe]: and i'm glad they challenged this and got it like you said doesn't usually go [roscoe]: in favor and to come out of the first period [biehner_]: okay [roscoe]: yeah and to come [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: out of the first three nothing like that's like i said the best performance on [roscoe]: the score sheet the leaves have [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: had in the first period so far so that's [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: got to feel good especially [biehner_]: not

[roscoe]: you know they're on a bit of a streak right now at least of getting [roscoe]: points i know they lost an overtime but yeah [biehner_]: not to mention i don't know if anybody's ever if anybody's even looked into [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: this when was the last time the leaf scored power play a shorthanded and an [biehner_]: even strength goal all in the same [Darty Brodeur]: oh [biehner_]: period [roscoe]: right that's like [Darty Brodeur]: the tryfecta

[roscoe]: the gordyhowhatric of goals [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: yeah that is pretty cool um now or anything on the first perform move on [roscoe]: here good performance all around obviously from mary not letting anything in but honestly the [roscoe]: leaves had so many less shots i wanna where's the numbers here first i can't [roscoe]: see it period by period but leaves wrote shot thirty four to twenty three and

[roscoe]: i know it was like under twenty for the leaps for the majority they scored [roscoe]: four goals on sixteen shots i think [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: brutal okay so alex talked ten minutes into the second opens the scoring [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: for the buffalo sabers finally with a little tip in front of the net i [roscoe]: should i have benched [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: him tonight and fantasy is the only person i know right but i put him

[roscoe]: in over i put new lander in so you know [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: kind of one of the other anyway [biehner_]: tuck needs to go buy a power play ticket after that because he had no [biehner_]: business tipping that in and i don't even think he was really even freakingtrying [roscoe]: no he wasn't paying attention it just went off is stick [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: he was looking the other way he was trying to get away from i think [roscoe]: it was go [Darty Brodeur]: owen power

[roscoe]: and [Darty Brodeur]: play ticket [roscoe]: yeah yeah [biehner_]: oh uh h ye [roscoe]: oh man a oh you mean hawke night in canada favorite star of the night [roscoe]: page thomson [roscoe]: did you know that he's really tall and he can score a lot of goals [roscoe]: and he might be better than both connor mac david and austin matthew's combined [roscoe]: oh i missed that [biehner_]: yeah i did [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: i i wasn't as nervous as if it would have been the first game he

[biehner_]: was back because like i said like he had that what looked like almost a [biehner_]: tweak in that leg in the game against pittsburgh and then he had a lot [biehner_]: of big time saves in the new jersey game so i think it's i really [biehner_]: don't think that they pulled a freddy and rushed him back i think he honestly [biehner_]: took his time and he's he's back on a per cent so i'm not as

[biehner_]: as concerned because a little bump like that especially with all that padding i know [biehner_]: goles will complain but to fall forward like the correct way to fall down like [biehner_]: that you're you're fine like it's it's easier on the goal is than it is [biehner_]: on an out player [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: with the shin pads out players have right [Darty Brodeur]: better than doing the splits like that one guy the other night who had to [biehner_]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: get stretched off [roscoe]: no man it wasn't even a split there's just a weird twist back like oh [roscoe]: i don't even want think about that but i totally forgot that this was the [roscoe]: power play where austin matthews got called for an illegal check to the head where [roscoe]: he hit someone's shoulder with his shoulder while they had the puck i don't understi [roscoe]: don't understand someone said because it was a blind side because he came in behind

[roscoe]: that's a penalty every time but i'm sorry this was not check [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: to the head like [biehner_]: as [roscoe]: is [biehner_]: pretty [roscoe]: the exact same thing we saw the other night where it's like you're just getting [roscoe]: called for being bigger than the other person and hitting them hard [biehner_]: that's the it's the mat mat cook call like that is essentially [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: the exact [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: same style of hit that knocked marks of art out of the league right and [biehner_]: nine [roscoe]: ah [biehner_]: times out of ten you see a hit like that and it's purely head contact [biehner_]: so that's why that verbage is there as illegal hit [Darty Brodeur]: oh [biehner_]: to the head [roscoe]: okay fair [biehner_]: they can't call it [roscoe]: it [biehner_]: no [roscoe]: he didn't [biehner_]: it didn't [roscoe]: it his head

[biehner_]: hit his head it was shoulder to shoulder but it was the blind side terminology [biehner_]: of it because that's [roscoe]: okay [biehner_]: that's that's part of that rule right [roscoe]: and oh oh [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: hm [Darty Brodeur]: oh oh [roscoe]: like the only argument i guess like from what we've recently learned about c d [roscoe]: is there's like little those there's hits like that that don't necessarily go to the

[roscoe]: head where you know you're you're hit pretty hard like he came out on like [roscoe]: a train you know [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: it's yeah but that's also playing hockey so it's when it comes to rule book [roscoe]: it's kind of a i get what you're saying and i understand [Darty Brodeur]: guy [roscoe]: that [Darty Brodeur]: thirty [roscoe]: cavard [Darty Brodeur]: four [roscoe]: was [Darty Brodeur]: is a [roscoe]: kind [Darty Brodeur]: bad [roscoe]: of knocked [Darty Brodeur]: boy

[roscoe]: out [Darty Brodeur]: now [roscoe]: for this but [Darty Brodeur]: bad to the bone [roscoe]: it's just tough coal [Darty Brodeur]: bad [roscoe]: oh but a pair [roscoe]: it's what everybody wanted to see but every time you hit somebody he gets called [roscoe]: for it he's too big yeah bye bye bye back okay also rasmus sanden took [roscoe]: a hooking call on this one sanden has not been [Darty Brodeur]: fall [roscoe]: on his [Darty Brodeur]: from [roscoe]: game [Darty Brodeur]: grace

[roscoe]: why have we not benched him and put victor met mente back in [biehner_]: i was wondering that myself but [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: i don't know if keith is just ridiculously loyal or what's going on because look [biehner_]: at last year we were asking the same thing about justin hall all year last [biehner_]: year exact [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: same [roscoe]: but they [biehner_]: thing [roscoe]: actually benched they benched justin hall a couple times last year and he played better

[roscoe]: when he came back [biehner_]: but [roscoe]: he was [biehner_]: the [roscoe]: a healthy scratch [biehner_]: yeah but a couple of times doesn't warrant the thirty eight times that it should [biehner_]: have been [roscoe]: no but it was for more than a few games like they had him scratched [roscoe]: for like it was three or four and then they brought him back and he [roscoe]: played better and then they did that again later in the season like they really

[roscoe]: showed like hey we're not happy with this but for some reason sanden who took [roscoe]: them for a run for months is just given a pass on this and i [roscoe]: don't really get it and they went out and got all this defensive depth [Darty Brodeur]: well [roscoe]: they [Darty Brodeur]: justine [roscoe]: just letting [Darty Brodeur]: halton [roscoe]: him [Darty Brodeur]: also [roscoe]: play [Darty Brodeur]: hold [roscoe]: like [Darty Brodeur]: out [roscoe]: ship

[Darty Brodeur]: for the king's ransom of one point five million right so [roscoe]: well [biehner_]: ye [roscoe]: that's what i mean it's like the fact that he held out on them for [roscoe]: so long i don't know why they're they're giving him a pass like they should [roscoe]: be [biehner_]: i [roscoe]: harder on him than justin hall who they've brought up within their system you know [roscoe]: for years now [biehner_]: i think if you if you look at it from more of an organizational standpoint

[biehner_]: and yes i i galaxy brain all this kind of ship all the time [roscoe]: galaxy been [Darty Brodeur]: linda [biehner_]: um m um like sam dene is the type of defense man they want like [biehner_]: the fact that they went and got georgie ben that's out of the ordinary that's [biehner_]: almost like a dubious move trying to shut people on twitter up really like [roscoe]: no and look at work [biehner_]: yeah like the what justin hall is when he's good like when he's on what

[biehner_]: riley is with sanding is lilegrand that's the style of defense man they want because [biehner_]: that's the type of game they want to play [roscoe]: like [biehner_]: so [roscoe]: jacob check and i know [biehner_]: even even if you look at the pizza that sanding served up the other day [biehner_]: for crosbie's backhander you listen to keith's comments afterwards [roscoe]: it was when it was one of those gross pittsburgh pizas where the cheeses [biehner_]: yeah

[roscoe]: cold on top and they don't actually like melt it it's a thing look it [roscoe]: up [biehner_]: i think they just use like naco cheese they don't actually melt real cheese on [biehner_]: it do they [roscoe]: no they cook the bread in the sauce and the oven and then they put [roscoe]: cold toppings and cold cheese on top [Darty Brodeur]: a little [roscoe]: after [Darty Brodeur]: penguin [roscoe]: it's [Darty Brodeur]: finfogra [roscoe]: disgusting [biehner_]: that would explain why oh

[roscoe]: only a little penguin frog [biehner_]: that would explain why everyone [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: in pittsburgh looks miserable all the time [roscoe]: yeah they don't know how to make a pizza college [biehner_]: um [roscoe]: kids know how to make [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: pizza [biehner_]: but like even even after that pizza that he [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: served up in pittsburgh keith defended them he basically said like all our guys know

[biehner_]: how to make that move or something along those lines like or know how to [biehner_]: make that play because that's basically what they've been instructed to do they've been instructed [biehner_]: to do these high high low outlet passes because they want the guys get better [biehner_]: two on one's three on [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: one's breakaway stuff like that it just it bounced on him or he wiped on [biehner_]: it it's going to happen it's just it happened to him where you know

[roscoe]: ye [biehner_]: everything has been happening to him happening to him over the last couple of weeks [biehner_]: and before i sound like i'm ridiculously contradicting myself here i think it's [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: different from what we were seeing with hall last year because san den goes and [biehner_]: he makes one of these mistakes and he doesn't fall on his ass and let [biehner_]: someone come like let the whole [roscoe]: uh

[biehner_]: team come in he'll get back up and he'll try to run whoever he just [biehner_]: gave the puck to throw the boards like hel try to make up for it [biehner_]: he's just maybe trying a little too hard [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: so i agree he needs to sit for a game or two just to kind [biehner_]: of maybe get his head back into it a little bit and i was very [biehner_]: very impressed with what we saw from meta and even from philip crawl like you

[biehner_]: look at some of the players that we've had come up and play for us [biehner_]: small [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: small sample sizes i'm not saying these guys are gonna win the norse they've been [biehner_]: good [roscoe]: yeah and time on nice leader after the second period was justin hall at sixteen [roscoe]: minutes and twenty [Darty Brodeur]: so [roscoe]: four [Darty Brodeur]: what [roscoe]: seconds [Darty Brodeur]: you're saying [roscoe]: thanks [Darty Brodeur]: banner

[roscoe]: mike [Darty Brodeur]: is [roscoe]: for that [Darty Brodeur]: sanden [roscoe]: one already go ahead [Darty Brodeur]: he gets knocked down but he gets back up again you're never goin [roscoe]: uh ah [Darty Brodeur]: he's a little tub thumper [roscoe]: oh little tub thumper um so just on the note about time on ice because [roscoe]: i didn't mention the the first period guess who led the leafs in time on [roscoe]: ice in the first period [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: i'm just going to take a complete and utter stab here and say willy [Darty Brodeur]: oh [roscoe]: oh it was mark giordano with eight minutes and fourteen seconds in the first period [roscoe]: holy [biehner_]: not a boy [roscoe]: shit [Darty Brodeur]: his style has been on [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: point [roscoe]: adapoiis [Darty Brodeur]: as well he's an absolute [roscoe]: right [Darty Brodeur]: mobster out there like like marner and matthews they're looking like [roscoe]: m

[Darty Brodeur]: you now little vogal [roscoe]: m [Darty Brodeur]: g q but dane he's he's still got that the god other things going on [Darty Brodeur]: for him [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: yes oh [roscoe]: h oh oh [roscoe]: oh yeah uh then move just to finish off the second here we had willy [roscoe]: kneelander so i for the second time this year the leaves have gotten a power [roscoe]: play and as it goes to commercial i'm like big willy p p goal coming

[roscoe]: up and he did it again last time i called it and this time manifested [roscoe]: that to existence so you're welcome location for the big willie p p g h [roscoe]: and then he got another one to start the third off so man william neelander [roscoe]: is just no matter where we put him it's like they're scrambling the line up [roscoe]: every night how do we get matthews on how do we get you know to

[roscoe]: far as his four hundred they gotta keep figuring things out willie's like gonna put [roscoe]: me wherever you want i'm cool i'll score wherever i'm fine yeah i wish more [roscoe]: people had that edit oh [biehner_]: m [biehner_]: what [biehner_]: well i think some of the thing with him is like look it through the [biehner_]: history basically since since our parents were kids like there's always been someone on the [biehner_]: team for the fans to love [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: that even if they got four goals a year they gave everything they left [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: all their blood all their sweat out on the ice [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: and despite what numbers he puts up willie doesn't do that [roscoe]: no [biehner_]: willis willie's just there he has no panic threshold whatsoever which lie in a good [biehner_]: way it's like watching cable in his prime back on [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: d he doesn't panic like he absolutely does not but on the same

[roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: same token [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: when he should panic [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: or should put it up a gear he doesn't visibly look like he is [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: i think because he has the [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: talent because he has the skating ability it doesn't look like he's [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: trying as hard as he actually is i think sometimes [roscoe]: but i mean when it came to the playoffs he was always the best one [Darty Brodeur]: and

[roscoe]: seems [Darty Brodeur]: that's the point i was [roscoe]: year [Darty Brodeur]: going [roscoe]: after [Darty Brodeur]: to make [roscoe]: year [Darty Brodeur]: is people just seem to forget [roscoe]: dirty [Darty Brodeur]: that [roscoe]: what's [Darty Brodeur]: this [roscoe]: up [Darty Brodeur]: guy was leading our team in in points up until like last year for the [Darty Brodeur]: play office right so [roscoe]: oh

[Darty Brodeur]: correct me if i'm wrong but at least he was one of the better ones [Darty Brodeur]: ah and in start contrast to marner and matthews and also i get it this [Darty Brodeur]: guy doesn't look like darcy fucking tucker all right but yes [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: he sometimes floats but when he's out there and he's [roscoe]: yes [Darty Brodeur]: absolutely [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: banging that guy like there's there's no stopping look at tonight [roscoe]: oh

[roscoe]: shout out to dart who is going on like an hour here on this elyptical [roscoe]: oh yeah and honestly it's when it comes to what the leaves downfall like if [roscoe]: you're going to if you're gonna take anything that they did wrong tonight out of [roscoe]: it's hard to out of you know a big wind like this but um because [roscoe]: we always have to comment on something they're still beating themselves like they gave up

[roscoe]: the only two goals where power play goals they had six penalties tonight like there's [roscoe]: a reason justin hall led the team with twenty four minutes tonight because of power [roscoe]: penalty kills so that's the only thing they got to tighten up i mean obviously [roscoe]: the cave the sabers in tonight but ukapecalucaan was rough like i said they scored [roscoe]: four on sixteen shots so not that he had a chance on some of them

[roscoe]: but still that's just the only thing you got a clean up but some rough [roscoe]: penalties here and there i know some of these were bullshit calls but you know [roscoe]: you gotta six is too many even when there are bad ones [roscoe]: yeah show casey middle stad manages to get one with five minutes left on the [roscoe]: power play because again like i said you just [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: couldn't have finished this one out five one could you [Darty Brodeur]: let [roscoe]: like

[Darty Brodeur]: that up the [roscoe]: so annoying [biehner_]: but that [biehner_]: that's like a typical golly has played two or three games in the last calendar [biehner_]: year type goal against though because he had [roscoe]: i don't [biehner_]: it [roscoe]: even put that on murray though like [biehner_]: no [roscoe]: it's [biehner_]: no but [roscoe]: it's the fact that they were on the penalty kill in the first place [biehner_]: but at the same time he did have it like i'm not [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: i'm not trying to criticize and i was just saying like that's that's the type [biehner_]: of thing when you're not you're not at top form right cause you give him [biehner_]: thirty games into the season where he's [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: played thirty games [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: and he knows that [Darty Brodeur]: and [biehner_]: puck's [Darty Brodeur]: fell [biehner_]: there [Darty Brodeur]: did [biehner_]: and [Darty Brodeur]: he [biehner_]: he's [Darty Brodeur]: not end

[biehner_]: not [Darty Brodeur]: off [biehner_]: moving [Darty Brodeur]: with a nine four one tonight like please [roscoe]: my [roscoe]: oh yeah [biehner_]: oh yeah yeah i'm not i'm [roscoe]: yes [biehner_]: not trying to pin anything negative on him he's played [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [biehner_]: great since he came back in and even tonight he's kind of maybe because you [biehner_]: could see a little [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: bit in the pittsburgh and then you could see it a little bit more against [biehner_]: new jersey they were trying to pinpoint high glove on them that was his that [biehner_]: was his problem in the playoffs with pittsburgh even though they won the cup that [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: was his yeah that was the high glove and there was even a couple of [biehner_]: times tonight where he made a glove and he gave it a little how [roscoe]: yes

[biehner_]: dy do to kind of show no no i got it [roscoe]: yeah yeah and just on the penalties real quick before we move on like j [roscoe]: t is good for one a game it seems just because the ref seem to [roscoe]: make one up for tavars every night but i don't expect he was to also [roscoe]: get one that's kind of like one or the other they tried to take one [roscoe]: of those two guys out for two minutes every game but it's the fact that

[roscoe]: i know we were talking about how well he was playing willy picked up too [roscoe]: and liligrenand sanden each got one too so it's just that up guys come [Darty Brodeur]: time [roscoe]: on [Darty Brodeur]: on [roscoe]: come on yah ilioililabush thou was nowhere tonight i was excited [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: to see him again [Darty Brodeur]: bosh [biehner_]: he was on all fours in the crease for one of willy's goals

[roscoe]: yeah that was him oh what about riley she and celebrating a saved by matt [roscoe]: murray that he thought winning [biehner_]: the guy is [roscoe]: ah [biehner_]: just ridiculous [roscoe]: so most people like i mean mike vituated he's like whoever number eight was and [roscoe]: i'm like googling like whose number eight on buffalo it's okay so there was a [roscoe]: shot from the point and murray made glove say and his hands just went up

[roscoe]: then he kind of did like a he tried to turn it into like he's [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: what happened [roscoe]: wait what happened like why do i have my hands up right now i'm going [roscoe]: to turn this into something else so good three stars the night william newland over [roscoe]: two goals john to varas with a goal [Darty Brodeur]: i [roscoe]: and to assist and matt murray with thirty two saves leave taking all three [Darty Brodeur]: really [roscoe]: stars

[Darty Brodeur]: just [roscoe]: and a [Darty Brodeur]: can't [roscoe]: five [Darty Brodeur]: seem [roscoe]: to [Darty Brodeur]: to lock [roscoe]: win [Darty Brodeur]: down that hot trick [roscoe]: grabbing the [Darty Brodeur]: anny [roscoe]: two point how do you do no no no not going to happen yeah ah [roscoe]: welve game point streak so the longest running in the n h l still and [roscoe]: i think the longest n leaf longest leaf since like the forties [biehner_]: yeah laurence car

[Darty Brodeur]: see willy [roscoe]: unreal [Darty Brodeur]: doesn't get [roscoe]: man [Darty Brodeur]: hat trix because you [roscoe]: go [Darty Brodeur]: can't [roscoe]: ahead [Darty Brodeur]: put [roscoe]: dirty [Darty Brodeur]: a hat on those beautiful gold locks all right [roscoe]: oh oh man but no honestly like the fact that william nelander and and mitchmaner [roscoe]: have been the whipping boys of toronto media like look they're the two that are

[roscoe]: performing the best right now i know we're not trying to slight austin matthews and [roscoe]: yes john devar is having an amazing start to a season i'm just saying like [roscoe]: a twelve game point streak and just neander being consistent from the get go with [roscoe]: only a handful of off nights like these guys are great and we have them [roscoe]: for a while like [biehner_]: marner at twenty two points j t at twenty one matthews at twenty [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: and willie at twenty [roscoe]: unreal man unreal how quickly that picked up after a slow start [Darty Brodeur]: and yet bums all of them right [roscoe]: always november man what's november [roscoe]: ums man i know m [roscoe]: okay so what do we think you want to do don't you want to do [roscoe]: pretty good since we did the three stories went to give it to somebody else [roscoe]: yeah i gotta where's my thing here it is [roscoe]: m

[roscoe]: all right so who was pretty good tonight we'll start with mrelyptical [Darty Brodeur]: um so i always showed out willy style [roscoe]: he man [Darty Brodeur]: so [roscoe]: himself [Darty Brodeur]: i'm not goin [roscoe]: dardybritter [Darty Brodeur]: a do that tonight i'm going o say because we should try to pick someone [Darty Brodeur]: that's [roscoe]: ah [Darty Brodeur]: it on the bottom with a call an croke right [roscoe]: at [Darty Brodeur]: glad you got his [roscoe]: not a star

[Darty Brodeur]: ally ryyncrocris [roscoe]: nice killer crock [roscoe]: uh uh love it killer crock taking that one bean or what about you [biehner_]: i'm going to have to go with megan again i know he didn't really like [biehner_]: he didn't get anything on the score sheet and [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: actually his ice time was a little lower than i though too i felt like [biehner_]: he was a little bit of a pest out there again getting underneath people and [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: causing some havoc [roscoe]: yeah he had two shots three hits a block in only nine minutes he had [roscoe]: the least on the whole team so the fact that i mean he's got basically [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: the same and more effective numbers and other people i mean he's got better numbers [roscoe]: than zacasthanris and alex cur foot on the night who played seventeen eighteen minutes so [roscoe]: let's take let's put that in a perspective

[biehner_]: he makes sure that you know he's out there when he's out there [roscoe]: yeah nobody else played less than ten minutes on the whole team and he played [roscoe]: nine seventeen hundred percent on the face off dot like come on i think what [roscoe]: about you yeah not a boy [roscoe]: yeah and i agree but i'm going to give mine to and i'm on agree [roscoe]: with mike the fanatic on this one because he's finally had a good game paring

[roscoe]: val did not look like garbage tonight i'm not saying he was fantastic but he [roscoe]: has just been so brutal to watch out there and he's finally like he made [roscoe]: some good as he was using the body a bit he was digging in the [roscoe]: corners [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: good pass on the [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: whatever goal it was was it yarn croaks or yeah yaroncroks yeah so i mean [Darty Brodeur]: give [roscoe]: he [Darty Brodeur]: us a little [roscoe]: had a good

[Darty Brodeur]: growl [roscoe]: game and he [Darty Brodeur]: john [roscoe]: has not [Darty Brodeur]: give us a [roscoe]: had [Darty Brodeur]: little growl [roscoe]: any of those yet so i got to give it to him recognized [roscoe]: oh god okay we got a couple of things we'll touch on before we had [roscoe]: out here banner there was an interesting thing that happened [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: with which league was this in i'll let you take this [biehner_]: ah

[roscoe]: one i wanted you to share it last night or last episode [biehner_]: so the n c double a um michigan wolverines they've had a lot of turn [biehner_]: over last couple of years you know you had owen power baneers um why am [biehner_]: i drawing a blank on the kid with columbus um anyways they've had a great [biehner_]: young team a lot of turn over as you as you've been starting to get [biehner_]: with n c double as n h starts picking some of their players a lot

[biehner_]: more and the wolverines actually have run into a bunch of injuries and illness over [biehner_]: the past couple weeks the point that on thursday night they had to dress their [biehner_]: third string goal tender at left wing [roscoe]: yeah do you have his numbers like how did he do [biehner_]: honest to god i bet you any money he only played about ten seconds because [biehner_]: i've checked three different sites for box scores and i don't even see any ice [biehner_]: time whatsoever

[roscoe]: i would [biehner_]: i know [roscoe]: love to see that show up on his hawk d b like a lead prospects [roscoe]: that he played left wing for a game [biehner_]: right like i know he i was reading a couple of tweets i was doing [biehner_]: some digging to try to see if i could find [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: anything and at one point he was in the penalty box so the fact that [biehner_]: he's not on score sheet i'm assuming it was some sort of bench minor and

[biehner_]: everybody was commenting [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: they've never seen someone skate that fast from a penley box over to a bench [biehner_]: before [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: little little humor there [roscoe]: they just kept him on the bench and then oh we took a bench minor [roscoe]: yeah put it put him in put him in get get him out of here [biehner_]: pretty much yeah [roscoe]: oh god m and the other thing i just gotta i know you were like

[roscoe]: i don't know if i want to call them out but i want to call [roscoe]: them out because this is some shady publicity stunt b s well so bene got [roscoe]: a ere you can start it off and then i'll roast the tim horton jersey [roscoe]: thing [biehner_]: so i came across this [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: i don't know [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: if i want to say company probably some dude in his mom's basement um m

[biehner_]: doing like the give away is we've all seen them you know a hundred retwets [biehner_]: two undrretweets whatever and you get a shirt or a hat or whatever and they're [biehner_]: doing it for jersey's so i had message them saying you know how many retweets [biehner_]: for new leaf reversed retro done up in honor tim horton because i'm that kind [biehner_]: of person so super simple number seven on the back no name bar just leave

[biehner_]: it and they came back said yeah four hundred and fifty retweets in forty eight [biehner_]: hours which [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: if you [roscoe]: ye [biehner_]: if you look at my social media profiles it's pretty steep i don't have a [biehner_]: massive presence on social media [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: but you know i figured out what the ell will gie it a shot never [biehner_]: having participated [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: in anything like this before i wasn't sure are you allowed to tag people [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: in the initial post what you know what's going on so i had specifically asked [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: are there any rules i need to know about and i was told no anything [biehner_]: goes good luck [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: and anyways we got off to a hot start like you guys you're all awesome [biehner_]: and yeah long story short they ended up ended up not following through and

[roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: they dished out multiple times to multiple people within the leaf fan community that same [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: large number four hundred four fifty [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: five hundred retweets [Darty Brodeur]: so what if a hundred of those followers [biehner_]: within [Darty Brodeur]: and retweets [biehner_]: the same [roscoe]: so [biehner_]: time [roscoe]: here's [Darty Brodeur]: might [roscoe]: the [Darty Brodeur]: have [biehner_]: frame [roscoe]: thing

[Darty Brodeur]: been from the sultan of bruni [biehner_]: cold [Darty Brodeur]: and no longer [biehner_]: kay [Darty Brodeur]: exist at this present time [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: wins a win right [roscoe]: uh ah well see this is where i [biehner_]: ah [roscoe]: kind of wanted to jump in because what i think is ridiculous is that this [roscoe]: company didn't restrict how many of these they were going to do like so obviously

[roscoe]: they had no intention of a bunch of people being able to complete this goal [roscoe]: and they just wanted the publicity because if you give out within the same community [roscoe]: because obviously there was bunch of leaves fans on twitter that we're using this this [roscoe]: contest try to get out of jersey like if you give it out to that [roscoe]: many people people are going to start only supporting their friends and not just reach

[roscoe]: reading like oh the one person in our circle that is going for this like [roscoe]: great let's all help this person get to jersey no it's there's five people that [roscoe]: are all doing the same thing and everyone's going okay this is either a scamp [roscoe]: or i'm just not going to do this like this is dumb so all this [roscoe]: jersey flock did was get their name out everywhere and give out no jerseys so [roscoe]: boo [Darty Brodeur]: fraud

[roscoe]: shame on you it's not cool yeah anything goes meaning you know a couple hey [roscoe]: you on but twitter knowing there were bots on it [Darty Brodeur]: anything [roscoe]: okay anything [Darty Brodeur]: goes [roscoe]: you do on twitter that can happen [roscoe]: in lone's twitter anything goes oh right [Darty Brodeur]: yes [roscoe]: anybody want to throw something in here before we close out for the night

[biehner_]: so i just wanted to give another quick quick shout out to connor bernard [roscoe]: i [biehner_]: of the regina pats [roscoe]: oh what now [biehner_]: so he has he is currently [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: on a twenty one game [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: point streak [roscoe]: okay [biehner_]: at nineteen [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: goals twenty eight s s for forty seven points [roscoe]: m m oh my god [biehner_]: he's got he's got a hundred and thirty five shots in those games as well

[biehner_]: and [roscoe]: how [biehner_]: and thirty penalty minutes [roscoe]: oh interesting what's he doing [biehner_]: so probably just getting back at people that are trying to stop him they're trying [biehner_]: to bobby or him and take his knees out [Darty Brodeur]: now i had something but i [roscoe]: love [Darty Brodeur]: lost [roscoe]: it [Darty Brodeur]: it and it was probably in a [roscoe]: dirty [Darty Brodeur]: similar [roscoe]: what's [Darty Brodeur]: vein [roscoe]: up

[Darty Brodeur]: to whatever bean was doing with jersey flock so i'm going to hold it in [Darty Brodeur]: just because you know i put some bad energy [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: out there [biehner_]: uh yeah [roscoe]: all right so next leaf game is on monday against the iles it's still at [roscoe]: home what do we think in here islanders i mean nelson and lee off to [roscoe]: a good art baral not so much but otherwise they're they're pretty boring team to

[roscoe]: play against they can lock things down like we saw against the devils [Darty Brodeur]: pajama [roscoe]: the other night [Darty Brodeur]: boy [roscoe]: weird how lou just leaves that behind with teams [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: oh ah [roscoe]: oh yeah [roscoe]: oh yeah yeah it's a good thing to do when it's working and you're winning [roscoe]: it's another when you know we've seen him do it and it doesn't yeah yeah

[roscoe]: i mean i don't know we've seen him quite a bit of line juggling the [roscoe]: last couple of games more to try to generate something and not to try to [roscoe]: keep things fresh i think this is the first that he's done it while they're [roscoe]: they're winning [biehner_]: so completely unrelated to the islanders and that but do you think the devils get [biehner_]: to thirteen against the islanders [Darty Brodeur]: they're [biehner_]: against the oislers [Darty Brodeur]: they're

[biehner_]: and [Darty Brodeur]: on [biehner_]: then [Darty Brodeur]: a [biehner_]: we [Darty Brodeur]: freak in heat [roscoe]: the [Darty Brodeur]: or [roscoe]: oil [Darty Brodeur]: been [roscoe]: in [Darty Brodeur]: er all right so you know [biehner_]: like that the [Darty Brodeur]: don't [biehner_]: islanders [Darty Brodeur]: doubt that don't doubt the devil's [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: i just i just took the late eighties and early early seventies and early eighties

[biehner_]: and mixed them into one team [roscoe]: where the devil's [biehner_]: because [roscoe]: sports [biehner_]: they [roscoe]: a team [biehner_]: they beat the senators tonight to go to twelve straight [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: then the leafs play [roscoe]: wait [biehner_]: em [roscoe]: wow [biehner_]: let's [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: play [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: him next [roscoe]: the leaves [biehner_]: week [roscoe]: play [biehner_]: again [roscoe]: them again on wednesday

[biehner_]: would be fourteen straight [roscoe]: okay you got to stop them at fourteen [Darty Brodeur]: at least not [roscoe]: and [Darty Brodeur]: better [roscoe]: come [Darty Brodeur]: on their second [roscoe]: on [Darty Brodeur]: looks though like did we [biehner_]: got to [Darty Brodeur]: lose the second game vegas or i can't remember any more damn it [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: yeah we lost both [roscoe]: yeah but they beat they beat the penguins the second time though they lost them

[roscoe]: on the friday and they beat them on tuesday so [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: you know i mean the devils i think those guys can't be like that forever [roscoe]: can they [biehner_]: no [Darty Brodeur]: isn't there [biehner_]: there's [roscoe]: that's the [biehner_]: no [Darty Brodeur]: dandy [biehner_]: way [roscoe]: only [Darty Brodeur]: situation [roscoe]: thing i'm counting [Darty Brodeur]: a little precarious [roscoe]: on is like [Darty Brodeur]: right [roscoe]: their [Darty Brodeur]: now

[roscoe]: kids this is going to fade out eventually but [roscoe]: they got vite and blackwood blackwood's hurt vitextollyne that's all i know yeah but okay [roscoe]: so now that you guys are all here i brought this up with step last [roscoe]: episode but how bad is washington at assessing their goal situation for letting vite and [roscoe]: samson of just leave essentially like they didn't qualify samsonov for like two million or [roscoe]: whatever it was and they moved on from vitekvanachec

[Darty Brodeur]: oh [roscoe]: and now both of them are fantastic and darcy kemper is exactly what darcy kemper [roscoe]: always is [biehner_]: i'm i have no inside information [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: on this whatsoever but i'm kind of wondering if maybe this this wasn't the management [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: group if this was the players like ovibaxstrum oh she everybody [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: going going and saying hey look these guys haven't done it for us the past

[biehner_]: couple of years because they had vantacek and samsona for a little [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: while there [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: haven't done it we're on our last legs you guys need to do something [roscoe]: yeah that's fair they are getting [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: to the end of her the run need [Darty Brodeur]: so [roscoe]: somebody [Darty Brodeur]: i'm [roscoe]: that's [Darty Brodeur]: just [roscoe]: seasoned and why not go for the [Darty Brodeur]: go [roscoe]: person

[Darty Brodeur]: conspiracy [roscoe]: that just won the [Darty Brodeur]: theory [roscoe]: cup [Darty Brodeur]: here but [roscoe]: dart [Darty Brodeur]: you know i don't think ov has changed his perspective on i'm glad in [roscoe]: yeah [Darty Brodeur]: routine all right and these guys that left are both slow no m i mistaken [Darty Brodeur]: right that could also have been impactful because some of these guys don't agree and [Darty Brodeur]: some of the guys do right [roscoe]: yes

[Darty Brodeur]: that could be something [biehner_]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [biehner_]: sam [Darty Brodeur]: as [biehner_]: sonabs [Darty Brodeur]: m saying not every [biehner_]: russian [Darty Brodeur]: russian in the league like has the same opinion as [roscoe]: well [Darty Brodeur]: ovirightand i can [roscoe]: i mean [Darty Brodeur]: get [roscoe]: that could still [Darty Brodeur]: contentious [roscoe]: be [biehner_]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: in the locker room i don't know [roscoe]: i

[Darty Brodeur]: just [roscoe]: no i mean it's not a [roscoe]: yeah exactly i don't think it's that far fetched especially with the current situation actually [roscoe]: here we've got you know a couple o minutes we can talk about this the [roscoe]: world cup of oki speaking of she not happening again so are we just going [roscoe]: to forget about hawke over being like an international competition or something over again because

[roscoe]: we're getting to the point where people aren't excited about because they don't have anything [roscoe]: to go off of like the golden goal there's people that weren't born [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: when that happened that are like able to watch hawke and form memories now that's [roscoe]: how long ago that happened [roscoe]: yeah yeah [roscoe]: oh well look the thing that the most casual fans of hawke watch and i

[roscoe]: know it's because it's the time of year when everybody's home and everything but the [roscoe]: world juniors everybody gets beiandeering for team canada and it's just any time it's a [roscoe]: national team people get behind it and that's something that the professional level has just [roscoe]: completely lacked over the last decade and it's going to be hard to get people [Darty Brodeur]: and [roscoe]: excite [Darty Brodeur]: if [roscoe]: about [Darty Brodeur]: you [roscoe]: it

[Darty Brodeur]: look [roscoe]: again [Darty Brodeur]: at like [roscoe]: because [Darty Brodeur]: the [roscoe]: there's [Darty Brodeur]: history [roscoe]: no steam [Darty Brodeur]: of basketball [roscoe]: behind it [Darty Brodeur]: in the olympic right [roscoe]: ard [Darty Brodeur]: you [roscoe]: go [Darty Brodeur]: got [roscoe]: ahead [Darty Brodeur]: the dream teams you got th redeem team you need we need something similar to

[Darty Brodeur]: happen with hawke all right because otherwise like he how important it was say in [Darty Brodeur]: the nineties for the dream team with magic johnson and michael jordan and then he [Darty Brodeur]: got you know copy briant and la bron james right like those those names i [Darty Brodeur]: say them you guys might not be fan a basketball but you'll know who i'm [Darty Brodeur]: talking about right we need to do the same thing with hockey because if garry

[Darty Brodeur]: batman screws this up that's going to be huge huge oversite huge stupidity from the [Darty Brodeur]: national hockey league m [roscoe]: and the players association too they can't be left out of it because they're also [roscoe]: not helping the situation nor [biehner_]: honest [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: to god i think it's probably more of the [roscoe]: ah [biehner_]: pa than anything [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: because think about it this way there has never been a time in the history [biehner_]: of hawke the united states has had a stronger team if you go like if [biehner_]: we if i give everyone here a project let's go and build our teams take [biehner_]: your main countries and let's put together our teams and tell to say who you [biehner_]: think would win i can pretty much guarantee honest to god i think the states [biehner_]: would win not only do [roscoe]: if [biehner_]: you

[roscoe]: you were [biehner_]: have [roscoe]: doing all time teams and building a team u s a most of your players [roscoe]: would probably be currently playing [biehner_]: yeah absolutely you'd have a handful of guy like if it's an all time [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: team you'd have a handful that played back when like you know brian leach was [biehner_]: incredible brett hall was incredible [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: yeah but like now [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: matt you can roll out matthews and

[roscoe]: no [biehner_]: michael as your first two centers [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: come on you have patrick kane as [roscoe]: yes [biehner_]: a lower level winner because he doesn't have to be the one and only anymore [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: now adam fox charlie macavoy jacob tube on defense like [roscoe]: perfect [biehner_]: thomson like you name it that kuchuck brothers [roscoe]: the chocks [biehner_]: as much as i hate matthew [roscoe]: jenks [biehner_]: like spencer [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: night in that [Darty Brodeur]: i [roscoe]: brock besser clayton keller alex debrinket je gensell [Darty Brodeur]: but they [roscoe]: kyle [Darty Brodeur]: got no [roscoe]: conner [Darty Brodeur]: tents [roscoe]: chris crater [Darty Brodeur]: they [roscoe]: brock [Darty Brodeur]: got no [roscoe]: nelson [Darty Brodeur]: tends [roscoe]: j [Darty Brodeur]: and what [roscoe]: t [Darty Brodeur]: does [roscoe]: miller [Darty Brodeur]: russia have they've got some [biehner_]: teams

[Darty Brodeur]: of the best [biehner_]: loaded [Darty Brodeur]: gold tenders in the world and i feel like canada is pretty neutral like canada [Darty Brodeur]: could wax most teams but [roscoe]: ah [Darty Brodeur]: those small things could be the difference makers now be really fun to watch to [Darty Brodeur]: see how that plays out [roscoe]: oh [roscoe]: what [biehner_]: connor hallabuck spencer [roscoe]: conner [Darty Brodeur]: not this [biehner_]: night [roscoe]: hello

[Darty Brodeur]: season [biehner_]: john [roscoe]: buck [biehner_]: gibson [roscoe]: j gotanger [biehner_]: an jury okay [roscoe]: i would take otonjerand hellaback [biehner_]: i just like as much as i hate that man if there was something that [biehner_]: would make the the united states look good [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: he would be all for it [roscoe]: trivial question of all the active american goals in the n h l who has [roscoe]: the best safe percentage

[biehner_]: just because you're asking a trivial question i'm going to say crag anderson [roscoe]: oh [Darty Brodeur]: spencer night [biehner_]: no no no no no [Darty Brodeur]: just [biehner_]: no [Darty Brodeur]: because [biehner_]: no [Darty Brodeur]: i was just [biehner_]: it's [Darty Brodeur]: be [biehner_]: quick [Darty Brodeur]: was talking ship [roscoe]: nope [biehner_]: got [roscoe]: no [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: guys hello buck is second by point zero zero two to jeremy swagman

[Darty Brodeur]: so [roscoe]: with a [Darty Brodeur]: azy [roscoe]: nine eighteen his fifty six games in the n h l [biehner_]: yeah definitely would [roscoe]: obviously [biehner_]: not have [roscoe]: hello [biehner_]: got [roscoe]: buck [biehner_]: i definitely would not have got sweaming but i was thinking more long lines of [biehner_]: goals that have played a lot more because i didn't even remember that he was [biehner_]: american that's why i thought [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: quick

[roscoe]: yeah seaman hellabokotanger smith and stollars are your your top five american active and chill [roscoe]: goles by safe percentage so i mean look nobody for nine twenty but they're all [roscoe]: good like and just back to the point like i think the states [biehner_]: yeah [roscoe]: would by all means want to present their team on the world stage so the [roscoe]: fact that like that's garry betman's okay let me let me frame this garry batman

[roscoe]: works for the owners the owners get money when there's more interest in the teams [roscoe]: those teams are viewed mostly by americans because there's you know majority american teams so [roscoe]: if you put said american players on the grand stage of an international tournament you [roscoe]: have people from all over the world watching your fantastic american players and then they [roscoe]: watch your american teams and then the game gets a ton more money in from

[roscoe]: advertisers because now you have fans of you know austin matthews and jack igel from [roscoe]: wherever in south korea or in england or in scotland or in australia or wherever [roscoe]: it is and you can now sell a bunch more advertisings it's just like it [roscoe]: grows it for the n h l so the fact that to bean's point like [roscoe]: it's more on the p a defending the safety of their players and not missing [roscoe]: time in the h l and their pay checks than it is batman because he

[Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: is somebody that wants [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: money [roscoe]: am i wrong being and that's what your point was [biehner_]: no no you're you're you're not wrong at all like you you can the team [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: would just be ridiculously stacked it would prove that you know if all these home [biehner_]: grown us talent players can go and destroy canada in a world which they potentially [biehner_]: could [roscoe]: yeah

[biehner_]: especially if you look at the canadian goal tending right now which has taken a [biehner_]: ship for the last [roscoe]: a [biehner_]: handful of years [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: it would be the perfect opportunity for him to say no [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: arizona needs to stay there because without arizona we wouldn't have matthews and because like [biehner_]: that'd be his exact line you know it [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: so i don't think it's as much him as we would maybe want it to

[biehner_]: be but to touch on a little bit more and this [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: is my last point on here and then i'll let [roscoe]: it [biehner_]: you guys talk a bit more [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: gives a funk about russia i get it they have good players they have some [biehner_]: of the best players in the league so what do a tournament without him the [biehner_]: world stage for hockey right now is so good and the talent pool is so

[biehner_]: deep you can put together a competitive tournament that's not going to be canada destroying [biehner_]: everybody without russia [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: look at every olympic there's always a latian team that gives every canadian [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: fan [roscoe]: kay [biehner_]: a heart attack every tournament [biehner_]: oh [roscoe]: okay just because i brought it up with the states um do you guys want

[roscoe]: to take a stab at who the best active canadian goals in the league are [roscoe]: see [biehner_]: look [roscoe]: if you can name [biehner_]: imson [roscoe]: logan thompson is number two with a nine eight team and basically number one because [roscoe]: number one nobody's ever going to guess this is dillon wells who played twenty minutes [roscoe]: for the chicago black hawks and has a nine twenty three [biehner_]: okay [roscoe]: he led [biehner_]: that [roscoe]: in one

[biehner_]: doesn't [roscoe]: goal [biehner_]: count [roscoe]: that's what i mean so games played here logan thomson and stewart skinner both at [roscoe]: a nine eighteen at thirty two and twenty two games played if we're looking at [roscoe]: like actual n h l experience here darcy kemper camp talbot and tristan jarry so [Darty Brodeur]: aback what happened [roscoe]: yaks guys yokes huge yokes [biehner_]: i'd be going

[roscoe]: we got spencer martin spencer martin mark andre flurry james rhymer matt murray jordan bennington [roscoe]: jakelen brian elliot aden hill carter shart blackwood wedgewood but am bo ingram yeah there's [roscoe]: nothing good here guys [biehner_]: i'd be going thompson and hard if it was me [roscoe]: yeah i would [roscoe]: carter shart yeah i would go probably oh oh baby logan thompson with [roscoe]: either murray or yeah buddy i'm all in [biehner_]: step [roscoe]: you going to take

[biehner_]: step [roscoe]: better [biehner_]: is [roscoe]: again [biehner_]: like step is like pulling her hair out hearing you commit to murray that bad [Darty Brodeur]: but what about beer do you say benner [roscoe]: she'd be putting jack campbell on team us so i don't really care [biehner_]: uh [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: uh [roscoe]: yeah because i mean he has the experience at least at the team canada level [roscoe]: does he not [biehner_]: there's no way i'm putting bennington on that team

[roscoe]: i just want to see it's yeah okay but this is my point guys if [roscoe]: this is where we're at like logan thompson was our [Darty Brodeur]: blackwood [roscoe]: number one [Darty Brodeur]: not [roscoe]: pick [Darty Brodeur]: canadian [roscoe]: to go and [Darty Brodeur]: i [roscoe]: net [Darty Brodeur]: feel [roscoe]: that [Darty Brodeur]: like [roscoe]: dudes [Darty Brodeur]: he [roscoe]: played [Darty Brodeur]: might squeak [roscoe]: thirty two [Darty Brodeur]: in if he was

[roscoe]: h l [Darty Brodeur]: having [roscoe]: games [Darty Brodeur]: if he didn't get injured last season [roscoe]: like [roscoe]: yeah he's he's there he's got a nine nine seven and two ninety three on [roscoe]: his career hundred and thirty seven games played so [biehner_]: i think it would be something [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: something like [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: thompson in heart so you have your your hot hand with thompson right now you [biehner_]: have your [roscoe]: oh

[biehner_]: international success because carter heart has played well at every international level and then i [biehner_]: think third or they bring the flower just as you know you don't expect him [biehner_]: to play all tournament yet he's been there you don't expect [Darty Brodeur]: just [biehner_]: him [Darty Brodeur]: like [biehner_]: to [Darty Brodeur]: when [biehner_]: play [Darty Brodeur]: they [biehner_]: all [Darty Brodeur]: brought [biehner_]: tournament [Darty Brodeur]: broder

[biehner_]: but if [Darty Brodeur]: on [biehner_]: he [Darty Brodeur]: the [biehner_]: has [Darty Brodeur]: taxi [biehner_]: to come [Darty Brodeur]: squad [biehner_]: in and play a game here or there he's goin t be able to step [biehner_]: up and do it m [roscoe]: yeah yeah i think honestly the defensive talent that canada has would be able to [roscoe]: defend whoever they put in net like i think they've got enough there they're old

[roscoe]: mind you but um yeah i don't i don't yeah it's just the states have [roscoe]: hell a buck but really none of this matters this is the point none of [roscoe]: this fucking matters because this tournament is not happening and god knows when it will [roscoe]: because this has just been impossible so the point is yeah [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: as [roscoe]: okay that's actually an interesting question so this year obviously i would take crosby but

[roscoe]: like when do you stop taking him if [biehner_]: when [roscoe]: we [biehner_]: he [roscoe]: were [biehner_]: stops [roscoe]: doing [biehner_]: playing [biehner_]: but [roscoe]: so then [biehner_]: that being said sorry for stepping on your toes there as much as [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: sorry like as much as we're romanticizing it [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: if you think about it there's no way in [roscoe]: yeah [biehner_]: hell they play on the same line they'd be out there for a power

[roscoe]: no [biehner_]: play and that's it played [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: like way to different styles of game [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: like mc david would probably more so be on the line with mckhennan which would [biehner_]: be absolutely disgusting to watch yeah [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: m [biehner_]: hm [roscoe]: and really at the end of the day what this means the most for is [roscoe]: growing the viewership of the game which is what's falling behind look i turned it's

[roscoe]: saturday night it's hawke night in canada when i turned on my bell five t [roscoe]: it tells you like it has suggestions of what's trending to watch right now the [roscoe]: rafters game was ahead of the leaf game in trending on hawkeynet in canada saturday [roscoe]: night like this is guys like come on you got to get this ship going [roscoe]: again you're [Darty Brodeur]: we [roscoe]: falling behind i don't want to be fourth rate professional sport here and honestly [biehner_]: m

[roscoe]: with the world cup going on this weekend it just [Darty Brodeur]: yeah [roscoe]: it really highlights how much hawke [Darty Brodeur]: and [roscoe]: has [Darty Brodeur]: especially [roscoe]: fallen behind [Darty Brodeur]: with a beerless world cup [roscoe]: like [Darty Brodeur]: right now you guys see [roscoe]: football [Darty Brodeur]: that like [roscoe]: starting [Darty Brodeur]: this is a perfect [roscoe]: up it's [Darty Brodeur]: opportunity [roscoe]: just

[Darty Brodeur]: for the n hell [roscoe]: annoying [Darty Brodeur]: to put their you know send their guys out there and you know maybe get [Darty Brodeur]: some some highlights get some some spot like but of course like you know i [Darty Brodeur]: said the h l p which really doesn't give a funk about the players like [Darty Brodeur]: deep down right these guys have been screwing the players more often than not and [Darty Brodeur]: the n h l like [roscoe]: yeah

[Darty Brodeur]: i don't i just these guys all need to give her a head to shake [Darty Brodeur]: because this leak i be goin become [roscoe]: okay [Darty Brodeur]: like micky mouse in the great words of the great one all right so you [Darty Brodeur]: heard here from darte first like give your head a shake and figure this out [Darty Brodeur]: because all you old heads out there you need to do you need to you

[Darty Brodeur]: guys funk little guys you did not pay it forward to the young guys coming [Darty Brodeur]: in and it's showing you need to give your heads a shake and start thinking [Darty Brodeur]: about the future because there will be no messes and grass s and prongers in [Darty Brodeur]: the future if you guys keep playing this mickey mouse league trap all right [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: damn mike drop all right i think we're going to sign off there anybody want

[roscoe]: to tip it off before we do now good cool thanks everybody [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: remember to give us like and follow and if you're on youtube toss of subscribes [roscoe]: you can get a little notification every time a new episode comes out and we're [roscoe]: goin t be posting all the episodes on youtube now whether we have the video [roscoe]: or not [biehner_]: m [roscoe]: some of them will have video and will just be audio but it will be

[roscoe]: on youtube none the less so if you want to find it there it will [roscoe]: now be there all the time thanks so much for all your support we'll see [roscoe]: who monday tuesday whatever the game is monday tuesday [biehner_]: monday [roscoe]: i think it's monday [Darty Brodeur]: daddy elan free luke man [roscoe]: oh [biehner_]: we love you already