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Leading Learning Podcast

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The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. The Leading Learning Podcast is for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. In each episode, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele provide actionable insights based on their own deep experience and expertise or invite in experts and practitioners to share their perspectives.

Episodes

271. Making Learntech's Promise Real

As we close out our seven-part series on the frontiers of learntech , we want to help you make sense of what the wide-ranging topics that emerged mean for the future of your learning business. Through the interviews with Ashish Rangnekar , Sam Sannandeji , Sae Schatz , and Donald Clark and our own reflective episodes, we’ve had the chance to touch on many different aspects of learntech. We covered everything from specific types of learntech, to the growing importance of data, the increasing need...

May 18, 202133 min

270. Digital Transformation with Ashish Rangnekar

Ashish Rangnekar, a self-described lifelong learner, is co-founder and CEO of BenchPrep , where he’s focused on helping organizations digitally transform their learning offerings in the new digital world order. BenchPrep elevates and empowers learning businesses through their full-stack learning platform, aimed at delivering the best digital experience to drive outcomes and increase revenue. In this penultimate episode in our series on the frontiers of learning technology, Jeff talks with Ashish...

May 11, 202136 min

269. Finding XR's Sweet Spot with Sam Sannandeji

Recognized as a leader in extended reality (XR) learning, Sam Sannandeji is founder and CEO of Modest Tree , a Canadian company providing immersive software to empower non-technical people to create and maintain their own augmented reality and virtual reality training. He brings both a technical, hands-on expertise of how XR works with an understanding of the needs and pain points immersive technologies can successfully address. In this fourth installment in our seven-part series on the frontier...

May 04, 202133 min

268. Bias and Equity in Learntech

This marks the halfway point in our series on the frontiers of learntech . Our hope is that you have already begun to consider the implications this inevitable explosion in learning technology will have on your learning business. And when it comes to implications we want to focus on some of the major themes that emerged from our earlier conversations with Donald Clark and Sae Schatz —particularly those related to bias and equity. Bias and artificial intelligence or, more specifically, bias in AI...

Apr 27, 202123 min

267: The Future Learning Ecosystem with Sae Schatz

Throughout her career, Sae Schatz has been deeply immersed in the application and advancement of learntech. She currently serves as director of the Advanced Distributed Learning (ADL) Initiative , a government program for science, technology, and policy related to distributed learning. She's also an editor of and contributor to the e-book Modernizing Learning: Building the Future Learning Ecosystem . Prior to joining ADL, Sae worked as an assistant professor and an applied human-systems scie...

Apr 20, 202140 min

266: AI, Data, and Optimism with Donald Clark

With an unmatched passion, knowledge, and optimism related to advances in learntech, Donald Clark has over three decades of experience at the intersection of technology and learning. He is CEO of WildFire , an AI content creation company, and a professor, researcher, speaker, and l earntech blogger (he's written a series of posts on 100 learning theorists who have shaped the world of learning ). He’s also author of the book Artificial Intelligence for Learning . (Listen to the audio at the e...

Apr 13, 202152 min

265: Learntech: The Next Generation

Learning technology is on the cusp of a renaissance. It’s poised to explode, proving to be essential to the smooth functioning of society and the daily life of billions of people worldwide. So it just made sense to choose it as the focus of our next seven-part series. In this first episode exploring the frontiers of learntech, we discuss what the topic means to us, key reasons that learning technology has seen such tremendous growth, and important related concepts including artificial intelligen...

Apr 06, 202124 min

264: The Third Sector of Education: Sustaining and Shaping Society

We’ve reached the final installment in our seven-part series on the third sector of education—the sector serving the millions of adults who continue to learn and grow in the decades following their secondary and post-secondary education—so we’re breaking down what we’ve learned along the way, and most importantly, what it all means for your learning business. In this final episode, we reflect on our recent discussions with L&D expert Nigel Paine and LaTrease Garrison , executive vice preside...

Feb 23, 202123 min

263: Uncovering Opportunity in Challenges with LaTrease Garrison

LaTrease Garrison is executive vice president of the education division at the American Chemical Society (ACS), which serves learners in the chemical education space, spanning K-8 all the way through retirement. With over 28 years at ACS, she has a seasoned perspective and solid grasp on what it takes to succeed as a provider in the growing third sector of education. In this sixth episode in our seven-part series, Jeff talks with return guest LaTrease about how ACS is meeting the diverse and evo...

Feb 16, 202142 min

262: Continuous Development with Nigel Paine

With over 25 years of experience in corporate learning, London-based Nigel Paine has spent the entirety of his career intersecting with the third sector of education becoming an internationally recognized expert and speaker on the topics of leadership, development, and technology. He’s written three books in the last five years, including Workplace Learning: How to Build a Culture of Continuous Employee Development , and teaches in the Penn Chief Learning Officer program at the University of Pen...

Feb 09, 202144 min

261: Reflecting with Anthony Carnevale

This marks the midpoint in our seven-part series on the surge of the third sector of education—the now essential sector serving the continuing education needs of millions of adults in the decades following their secondary and post-secondary education. In this fourth episode of the series, we reflect on what we’ve learned so far from our conversations with Michelle Weise , author of Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs That Don’t Even Exist Yet , and Casandra Blassingame , CEO of the Internatio...

Feb 02, 202131 min

260: Accrediting Lifelong Learning with Casandra Blassingame

With over 20 years of experience in higher education, particularly in continuing and professional studies, Casandra Blassingame has dedicated her career to meeting the needs of adult learners. And as the current CEO of the International Accreditors for Continuing Education & Training (IACET), she is also a doctoral candidate in the adult education program at the University of Missouri–St. Louis. In this third episode of our seven-part series about the surge of the third sector of education, ...

Jan 26, 202143 min

259: Long-Life Learning with Michelle Weise

As a leading expert and true innovator related to the future of learning and work, Dr. Michelle Weise has had the unique opportunity to engage with a multitude of stakeholder viewpoints surrounding the third sector of education. She is currently the entrepreneur-in-residence and a senior advisor at Imaginable Futures and author of several books, including her most recent, Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs That Don’t Even Exist Yet . In this second episode in our series on the surge of the t...

Jan 19, 202144 min

258: The Third Sector of Education

It’s a new year and we’re kicking it off with another seven-episode series of the podcast. Our previous series focused on the learning business in disruptive times, but this time we’ll be exploring the surge of the third sector of education—particularly the related implications this has on learning businesses. In this episode, we delve into some background behind the third sector of education including what it is, factors that have led to its tremendous growth, and why it is so important. We als...

Jan 08, 202127 min

257: Beginning Again

As we wrap up our series on the learning business in disruptive times, it’s important to reflect on what we’ve learned and consider where we go next in these complex times of uncertainty You may remember back in episode 254 , that we broke down and reflected on our first two interviews—one with Seth Kahan , founder of Visionary Leadership, and the other with Shilpa Alimchandani , a diversity, equity, and inclusion strategist. Since then, we've had the chance to also speak with Tracey Steiner...

Nov 24, 202034 min

256: Risking Innovation in Disruptive Times with Shawn Boynes of AAA

With 25 years of experience in the association sector, Shawn Boynes, executive director of American Association for Anatomy (AAA), spent the greater part of his career passionately serving in the education and professional development space. In this time, he developed a true appreciation for learning and the value that associations bring to the world, which has undoubtedly shaped who he is today as a leader. Focused on influencing positive change, he is also a co-host of the recently launched Te...

Nov 17, 202031 min

255: Cooperative Learning and Leading with Tracey Steiner

As the senior vice president for education and training at NRECA, the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association , Tracey Steiner oversees the development of the association’s annual and regional meetings, national conferences, board of directors training, executive and staff-level education, and credentialing programs. She is also the creator of "Tracey’s Takeaways" , a regular feature on NRECA’s website that focuses on employee development, management issues, leadership and organi...

Nov 10, 202036 min

254: Possibilities and Complexities

We’ve reached the midpoint in our series on the learning business in disruptive times so we want to take some time to reflect on what we’ve learned so far. After laying the groundwork in the first episode , we then featured interviews with Seth Kahan , founder of Visionary Leadership, and Shilpa Alimchandani , a seasoned diversity, equity, and inclusion strategist. In this fourth episode of the seven-part series, we revisit reflection questions from our first episode and provide an update on the...

Nov 03, 202032 min

253: Diversity and Disruption with Shilpa Alimchandani

With over two decades of experience in DEI leadership development and intercultural learning, Shilpa Alimchandani, author of Communicating Development Across Cultures: Monologues and Dialogues in Development Project Implementation , is a leadership coach, instructional designer, and facilitator. In her independent consulting practice, she is passionate about helping her clients tackle issues related to diversity, equity and inclusion to achieve transformational change. In this third episode of o...

Oct 27, 202030 min

252: Leading in Disruptive Times with Seth Kahan

Seth Kahan is founder of the consulting firm, Visionary Leadership and author of the business bestsellers, Getting Change Right , Getting Innovation Right , and, most recently, Visionary Leadership: How Association Leaders Embrace Disruption in the 21st Century . He's worked with leaders of large multinational organizations and over a hundred association CEOs. Some of his most exciting work with those CEOs involves Grand Challenges—big, bold goals that organizations take on, partnering with ...

Oct 20, 202042 min

251: Times of Disruption

It’s been a couple months since we released episode 250 of the Leading Learning Podcast and we're excited to be back with a new, revamped series approach to the podcast (rather than single, independent episodes as we’ve done in the past). With our new approach, over the course of several episodes—seven in this case—we’ll explore a topic from a variety of viewpoints, drawing on multiple interviews as well as offering our own thoughts and providing context for the conversations with others. An...

Oct 13, 202024 min

250: Turning the Lens on Leading Learning Listeners

In yet another exciting milestone for Leading Learning, we are thrilled to have officially reached episode 250 of the podcast. It’s hard to believe that we’ve been doing this for roughly five years at this point and have grown from zero listeners to more than 7,000 downloads a month! In this turning-point episode, we express our tremendous gratitude to everyone who has made the podcast possible. We also focus on input received from listeners that we think would be valuable to all learning busine...

Aug 04, 202019 min

249: The Upskilling Imperative with Shelley Osborne of Udemy

As Vice President of Learning at Udemy , Shelley Osborne is a true learning leader who is passionate about building cultures of learning that enable the continuous upskilling of employees. She is also author of an upcoming book titled, The Upskilling Imperative: Five Ways to Make Learning Core to the Way We Work. And Shelley is even a Udemy instructor herself with seven courses currently available, ranging from topics such as fostering psychological safety, to best practices for working remotely...

Jul 28, 202040 min

248: Off-Trail and Self-Directed Learning with Blake Boles

Blake Boles is the founder and director of Unschool Adventures , a company that gives self-directed teens and young adults—mostly unschoolers— an opportunity to explore cities all over the world. Well-known for questioning our traditional approaches to schooling, Blake is a thought-provoking speaker, host of the Off-Trail Learning podcast , and author. His books include The Art of Self-Directed Learning , Better Than College , College Without High School , and the recently published, Why Are You...

Jul 21, 202041 min

247: Transactional to Transformational with Micène Fontaine

Micène Fontaine is the executive director at Design Arts Seminars (DAS), an accredited provider of continuing education for design professionals that aims to inspire their clients to become catalysts of change and to design a world in which all of us can thrive. With two decades of experience designing high-quality learning experiences, he is passionate about their call to action as a provider of continuing education to move beyond the transactional relationship, to a truly transformative one. I...

Jul 14, 202038 min

246: 3 Conditions of Learner Engagement

Learner engagement is one of the holy grails of learning businesses—if the learner isn’t engaged, learning is unlikely to happen. So what are the necessary circumstances that need to exist in order for engagement in learning to happen? In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, we delve into three conditions that have to be met to foster learner engagement: meaning, safety, and availability. We also discuss some examples and ideas of how you might support those conditions in the products a...

Jul 07, 202017 min

245: The Indispensable Community with Richard Millington

Feverbee founder and return podcast guest , Richard Millington has spent over a decade helping hundreds of companies around the world develop successful, indispensable communities. He is also an international speaker and author of Buzzing Communities: How To Build Bigger, Better, And More Active Online Communities and The Indispensable Community: Why Some Brand Communities Thrive When Others Perish . In this episode of the Leading Learning podcast, Jeff talks with Rich about the evolution of onl...

Jun 30, 202033 min

244: E-Learning Uncovered with Diane Elkins

Diane Elkins is co-founder of Artisan E-Learning , a custom e-learning development company, and E-Learning Uncovered , a company specializing in training services, books, and resources for e-learning development using the major rapid e-learning authoring tools. She frequently speaks at events (in fact she led a session at Learning • Technology • Design 2019), and she’s co-author of E-Learning Fundamentals: A Practical Guide and the E-Learning Uncovered book series . In this episode of the Leadin...

Jun 23, 202039 min

243: Revisiting the Learning Business Maturity Model

The current coronavirus crisis is necessitating major changes in how many learning businesses meet existing needs. For example, a change like investing in expanding and improving your online learning portfolio as so many organizations are currently considering. But before making any major changes or investments, it’s important to first have a solid understanding of where you are as a learning business. That’s why in this episode, we are revisiting the Learning Business Maturity Model , a simple ...

Jun 16, 202014 min

242: The Adaptation Advantage with Heather McGowan

Future-of-work strategist and return podcast guest , Heather McGowan is an in-demand, internationally known thought leader and speaker. She helps leaders prepare their people and organizations with human-centric approaches to continuously learn and adapt in order to meet the demands of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. She is also the co-author, along with Chris Shipley, of the recently released The Adaptation Advantage: Let Go, Learn Fast, and Thrive in the Future of Work . In this episode, Jef...

Jun 09, 202035 min
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