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Leading Learning Podcast

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The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. The Leading Learning Podcast is for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. In each episode, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele provide actionable insights based on their own deep experience and expertise or invite in experts and practitioners to share their perspectives.

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Episodes

290: Maturity, Learning, and Desired States

Longtime listeners of the Leading Learning Podcast have heard us talk about the Learning Business Maturity Model™ before. We’ve dedicated entire episodes to it in the past, covering what it is and how to leverage it. In this episode, we focus less on the logistics and specifics of the model and more on the purpose of the maturity model. We explain how the model can be used by learning businesses for three interrelated purposes: dialogue, diagnosis, and direction. We also share how our latest off...

Feb 01, 202223 min

289: “With” Strategy Not “For” Strategy with Lowell Aplebaum

As CEO of Vista Cova and a Certified Professional Facilitator, Lowell Aplebaum collaborates with organizations to create transformative dialogue around vision, strategic planning, community, and value. He’s passionate about building a better future and his inclusive, learning mindset carries through in his work helping others recognize their potential for lasting impact. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Celisa talks with Lowell about the components of an effective strategy, how s...

Jan 25, 202247 min

288: Relevant, Efficient, and Economical: Learning Touchstones with Ray Schroeder

As professor emeritus and senior fellow at the University of Illinois Springfield and senior fellow at the University Professional and Continuing Education Association (UPCEA), Ray Schroede is a leading expert in higher education and online learning. With decades of experience teaching, leading, curating, and writing, Ray brings unmatched knowledge and passion to the conversation around emerging technologies and the future of education. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, Jeff talks...

Jan 18, 202235 min

287: Now's the Time: The Year That Is

The turning of a calendar from one year to the next is a natural time for reflection and preparation. In the previous episode , we looked back at the year that was for learning businesses. In this episode we turn forward to focus on the year that is. Drawing on data collected at the end of 2021, we uncover the top areas that learning businesses are prioritizing in the new year. We also reveal three trends and two major barriers that will impact learning businesses in 2022. Full show notes and a ...

Jan 11, 202228 min

286: Now's the Time: The Year That Was

As we just said goodbye to 2021 and rang in a new year, it feels only natural to pause and take a moment—or, in this case, an episode—to reflect. And, as learning business leaders, we know what a profound impact reflection can have on learning. That’s why in this first new episode of 2022, we’re looking back at the broader learning landscape and larger trends that shaped the previous year, including how the pandemic impacted learning businesses. We reflect on what we can learn from the year that...

Jan 04, 202223 min

285: Who and What: The Capacity Challenge

We’ve covered a lot of ground in the first six “courses” in the series for our mythical learning business MBA, and we’ve mostly focused on what —identifying the key skills and knowledge learning businesses need to survive and thrive. The what is important, but so too is the who —finding people with the key skills and knowledge and cultivating those skills and knowledge in your team. This includes people (the human resources), but it also extends to how to support those people in doing their work...

Nov 16, 202130 min

284: The Irresistible Episode—Now with Financial Modeling!

We've reached our next-to-last installment in our learning business MBA series, where we're continuing to explore the question "What kinds of skills, knowledge, and behaviors do learning businesses need to be successful?" A common theme has emerged as an answer. (1) You have to know your market and audience, and (2) you have to get product development right. But there's another component that too often does not get added—or doesn't get added with enough discipline and consistency—and that's fina...

Nov 09, 202138 min

283: MBA Student for a Day with Steven Schragis of One Day U

Steven Schragis is founder and director of One Day University, an adult education program that brings the best and most popular professors from all over the country to develop fun and engaging talks that inform and inspire adult “students-for-a-day.” At One Day U, learning isn’t driven by career advancement goals or earning a degree; it’s for people who simply want to engage in the pure joy of lifelong learning. Steven has positioned One Day University to effectively meet the needs of a large ni...

Nov 02, 202131 min

282: Learning Diversification with Jim Obsitnik

Jim Obsitnik is the chief executive officer at Cadmium , a software-as-a-service provider that brings events and education technology together. He believes in the higher social calling of learning and education and has spent many years in the learning space. Jim also holds an MBA from the Wharton School with a focus in marketing, which makes him an excellent guest lecturer in our learning business MBA series. In this midpoint episode in our seven-part series, Jeff talks with Jim to get his exper...

Oct 26, 202128 min

281: Studying Innovation with Mary Byers

This podcast series is our attempt to offer a theoretical learning business MBA program, and we invite you to play along. Imagine you’re in business school and about to hear a guest lecture by Mary Byers , a speaker, facilitator, consultant, and author of several books, including Race for Relevance: Five Radical Changes for Associations . She’s also host of the Successful Associations Today Podcast . Her work centers on helping organizations remain relevant in a rapidly changing environment, and...

Oct 19, 202134 min

280: The Strategy and Marketing Episode

Both marketing and strategy are fundamental to the health and success of a learning business, which is why we knew we had to address them in the context of the learning business MBA. Of course, the learning business MBA doesn’t exist yet, rather, we’re using it as shorthand for the key skills, knowledge, and behaviors needed by those working in market-facing learning businesses so they can ensure their organizations survive and thrive. While a single podcast series won’t allow us to do the work ...

Oct 12, 202139 min

279: Learning to Get Down to Business

Chances are, if you’re in the learning business, you probably didn’t go to school knowing this is where your career would take you. Some of you may a have strong background on the learning or education side, while others may have it on the business side—but likely, you don’t have an equally strong background when it comes to both, and it may be difficult to combine the two. And because we want you to have the core skills and knowledge needed to run a successful learning business, we’re focusing ...

Oct 05, 202129 min

278: Taking Action with Learning Science

This is the last installment in our seven-episode series on learning science’s role in a learning business , and we’ve covered a variety of interesting topics. But we want learning science to be more than interesting. We want you to apply it so you can elevate the success and impact of your learning business, as well as the success and impact of the learners you serve. In this episode, we revisit comments from the interviewees in the series about the one tenet or aspect of learning science they ...

Aug 24, 202128 min

277: Evidence-Based Evaluation with Rob Brinkerhoff and Daniela Schroeter

Learning science uses evidence-based practice to support learning, and evaluation plays a critical role in providing that evidence by revealing learning’s true impact. To help us unpack how evaluations should inform decisions about learning, we spoke with Dr. Robert Brinkerhoff and Dr. Daniela Schroeter, co-directors of the Brinkerhoff Evaluation Institute (BEI). Rob is an internationally recognized expert with four decades of experience in evaluation and learning effectiveness, and he’s the aut...

Aug 17, 202140 min

276. Practice and Feedback: Evidence-Based Tools for Learning

Practice and feedback are essential to effective learning, yet all too often they aren’t given the time and attention they deserve by learning businesses. Practice and feedback are powerful tools for moving a learning experience away from pure theory and content and towards deeper learning and application in the real world. In this fifth episode in our seven-part series on learning science’s role in a learning business, we feature key insights related to practice and feedback from conversations ...

Aug 10, 202138 min

275: Designing Content Scientifically with Ruth Colvin Clark and Myra Roldan

Both Ruth Colvin Clark and Myra Roldan are evidence-based learning designers who combine a nuanced understanding of learning theory with years of hands-on experience developing solutions. Ruth is principal and president of Clark Training & Consulting and has spent her career as an instructional psychologist, working with diverse organizations. She’s the author of many articles and books, including Evidence-Based Training Methods , and she co-authored e-Learning and the Science of Instruction...

Aug 03, 202144 min

274: Needs, Wants, and Learning Science

Learner needs are important—but, in the context of learning businesses, learner wants are just as important. Correctly satisfying these needs and wants requires figuring out what to offer—not by assuming or guessing what’s needed in the market but by following processes and systems that yield the data to prove it. In this third installment in our seven-part series focused on learning science for learning businesses, we explain why performing market and needs assessments are critical steps in eff...

Jul 27, 202126 min

273: Effective Learning with Learning Scientist Megan Sumeracki

Dr. Megan Sumeracki is an associate professor of psychology at Rhode Island College and co-founder of The Learning Scientists , a group of cognitive psychological scientists aiming to make scientific research on learning more accessible to students, teachers, and other educators. Her area of expertise is in human learning and memory, and in applying the science of learning in different contexts. In this second episode in our series on learning science’s role in a learning business, Jeff talks wi...

Jul 20, 202149 min

272: Learning Science for Learning Impact

For any organization offering learning, learning science is important. But it’s arguably even more important for learning businesses because of the far-reaching impact that can be achieved from effectively applying it. In this first installment in our "Learning Science for Learning Businesses" new seven-part series, we take a broad look at the science of learning, including related practical insights and key areas of influence for learning businesses. We also preview the specific areas of learni...

Jul 13, 202133 min

271. Making Learntech's Promise Real

As we close out our seven-part series on the frontiers of learntech , we want to help you make sense of what the wide-ranging topics that emerged mean for the future of your learning business. Through the interviews with Ashish Rangnekar , Sam Sannandeji , Sae Schatz , and Donald Clark and our own reflective episodes, we’ve had the chance to touch on many different aspects of learntech. We covered everything from specific types of learntech, to the growing importance of data, the increasing need...

May 18, 202133 min

270. Digital Transformation with Ashish Rangnekar

Ashish Rangnekar, a self-described lifelong learner, is co-founder and CEO of BenchPrep , where he’s focused on helping organizations digitally transform their learning offerings in the new digital world order. BenchPrep elevates and empowers learning businesses through their full-stack learning platform, aimed at delivering the best digital experience to drive outcomes and increase revenue. In this penultimate episode in our series on the frontiers of learning technology, Jeff talks with Ashish...

May 11, 202136 min

269. Finding XR's Sweet Spot with Sam Sannandeji

Recognized as a leader in extended reality (XR) learning, Sam Sannandeji is founder and CEO of Modest Tree , a Canadian company providing immersive software to empower non-technical people to create and maintain their own augmented reality and virtual reality training. He brings both a technical, hands-on expertise of how XR works with an understanding of the needs and pain points immersive technologies can successfully address. In this fourth installment in our seven-part series on the frontier...

May 04, 202133 min

268. Bias and Equity in Learntech

This marks the halfway point in our series on the frontiers of learntech . Our hope is that you have already begun to consider the implications this inevitable explosion in learning technology will have on your learning business. And when it comes to implications we want to focus on some of the major themes that emerged from our earlier conversations with Donald Clark and Sae Schatz —particularly those related to bias and equity. Bias and artificial intelligence or, more specifically, bias in AI...

Apr 27, 202123 min

267: The Future Learning Ecosystem with Sae Schatz

Throughout her career, Sae Schatz has been deeply immersed in the application and advancement of learntech. She currently serves as director of the Advanced Distributed Learning (ADL) Initiative , a government program for science, technology, and policy related to distributed learning. She's also an editor of and contributor to the e-book Modernizing Learning: Building the Future Learning Ecosystem . Prior to joining ADL, Sae worked as an assistant professor and an applied human-systems scientis...

Apr 20, 202140 min

266: AI, Data, and Optimism with Donald Clark

With an unmatched passion, knowledge, and optimism related to advances in learntech, Donald Clark has over three decades of experience at the intersection of technology and learning. He is CEO of WildFire , an AI content creation company, and a professor, researcher, speaker, and l earntech blogger (he's written a series of posts on 100 learning theorists who have shaped the world of learning ). He’s also author of the book Artificial Intelligence for Learning . (Listen to the audio at the end o...

Apr 13, 202152 min

265: Learntech: The Next Generation

Learning technology is on the cusp of a renaissance. It’s poised to explode, proving to be essential to the smooth functioning of society and the daily life of billions of people worldwide. So it just made sense to choose it as the focus of our next seven-part series. In this first episode exploring the frontiers of learntech, we discuss what the topic means to us, key reasons that learning technology has seen such tremendous growth, and important related concepts including artificial intelligen...

Apr 06, 202124 min

264: The Third Sector of Education: Sustaining and Shaping Society

We’ve reached the final installment in our seven-part series on the third sector of education—the sector serving the millions of adults who continue to learn and grow in the decades following their secondary and post-secondary education—so we’re breaking down what we’ve learned along the way, and most importantly, what it all means for your learning business. In this final episode, we reflect on our recent discussions with L&D expert Nigel Paine and LaTrease Garrison , executive vice preside...

Feb 23, 202123 min

263: Uncovering Opportunity in Challenges with LaTrease Garrison

LaTrease Garrison is executive vice president of the education division at the American Chemical Society (ACS), which serves learners in the chemical education space, spanning K-8 all the way through retirement. With over 28 years at ACS, she has a seasoned perspective and solid grasp on what it takes to succeed as a provider in the growing third sector of education. In this sixth episode in our seven-part series, Jeff talks with return guest LaTrease about how ACS is meeting the diverse and evo...

Feb 16, 202142 min

262: Continuous Development with Nigel Paine

With over 25 years of experience in corporate learning, London-based Nigel Paine has spent the entirety of his career intersecting with the third sector of education becoming an internationally recognized expert and speaker on the topics of leadership, development, and technology. He’s written three books in the last five years, including Workplace Learning: How to Build a Culture of Continuous Employee Development , and teaches in the Penn Chief Learning Officer program at the University of Pen...

Feb 09, 202144 min

261: Reflecting with Anthony Carnevale

This marks the midpoint in our seven-part series on the surge of the third sector of education—the now essential sector serving the continuing education needs of millions of adults in the decades following their secondary and post-secondary education. In this fourth episode of the series, we reflect on what we’ve learned so far from our conversations with Michelle Weise , author of Long Life Learning: Preparing for Jobs That Don’t Even Exist Yet , and Casandra Blassingame , CEO of the Internatio...

Feb 02, 202131 min
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